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| diablo_rojo | o/ | 01:05 |
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| gmann | o/ | 01:06 |
| mnaser | hola | 01:09 |
| mnaser | so anyone wanna talk about ptls | 01:10 |
| mnaser | or is it too late in the day and there's many other fires :-) | 01:10 |
| gmann | I think both :) | 01:13 |
| gmann | i see few objections on timing of this proposal. | 01:14 |
| diablo_rojo | I think in general I am fine with the proposal | 01:16 |
| gmann | timing + amount of discussion it need in community as this is big change. | 01:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Timing I feel like will need to happen next cycle. I feel like we won't get the details fleshed out before then. | 01:19 |
| gmann | I am sure, PTL-less projects will end up with liaison-less project too. If we have cases like active team but no PTL candidate then that is good time to design new way. | 01:21 |
| mnaser | i worry what we'll end up doing on the upcoming elections | 01:22 |
| gmann | I think processing projects for no-ptl and no-active members to maintenance mode can be one option but yes if cases are of "active team with no PTL" then its difficult | 01:24 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah thats true, PTL less projects could be the guinea pigs we test the new format on. | 01:28 |
| diablo_rojo | (ones that shouldnt become sigs anyway) | 01:28 |
| gmann | and after we discuss it more and have more agreement from community (say next cycle when we will have more data to convince people) then move away from PTL things which is good for long term. | 01:30 |
| diablo_rojo | +2 | 01:31 |
| diablo_rojo | I dont think its a thing we can rush | 01:31 |
| diablo_rojo | I think its something we need to do to help support the community in the future though. | 01:31 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 13:01 |
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| njohnston | o/ | 13:17 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:46 |
| jungleboyj | Quiet morning. :-) | 13:53 |
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| njohnston | jungleboyj: https://media.giphy.com/media/AhScqdFbFaJfa/source.gif | 14:35 |
| jungleboyj | njohnston: ++ Everyone is hiding at home and hoping being quiet will keep Corona from finding them. ;-) | 14:35 |
| njohnston | jungleboyj: https://media.giphy.com/media/Adqe9XUP3x9LO/source.gif | 14:40 |
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| jungleboyj | Nice. | 14:47 |
| gmann | I am thinking on my planned domestic travel whether to go or postponed. | 14:49 |
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| njohnston | gmann: I would entertain travel if it is by car, and then residing in a cabin or beach house where the lodging is the destination, or with young family. I wouldn't take communal transportation and I think traveling to a place where sightseeing or seeing visiting with elders are probably inadvisable. | 15:00 |
| gmann | yeah, my is flight that is why i am worried. It is for immigration purpose otherwise i even stopped going to park or restaurant :) | 15:01 |
| smcginnis | That sounds like it could be important enough. | 15:04 |
| njohnston | gmann: I agree, that could be important enough - as long as your stay is short enough you can have a high confidence of being able to return before borders/flights are cut off. | 15:05 |
| gmann | yeah, its just next day return. let's see i am observing the day to day recommendation and situation. | 15:06 |
| njohnston | gmann: Good luck! | 15:11 |
| mnaser | gmann: where are you based out of these days? | 15:38 |
| mnaser | it's getting harder and harder to get into canada | 15:38 |
| jungleboyj | gmann: Yeah, they are saying not to do any non-essential travel. Sounds like yours would be considered essential. Otherwise, spring breakers, etc. All that stuff shouldn't happen even though they are doing it anyway. | 15:40 |
| jungleboyj | Thankfully it sounds like my parents are cancelling their trip to Florida without me having to tell them too. | 15:40 |
| gmann | I am in winnipeg, yeah not going outside of canada as border are closed. i had appointment in Calgary in Japan embassy which i am thinking to postponed. | 15:40 |
| gmann | hard thing is that not all countries provide govt services online. | 15:42 |
| mnaser | thing is the definition of non-essential travel is actually defined | 15:44 |
| mnaser | its not "its important for me to be there", its a whole criteria and mostly surrounds the well being of the individual or the overall economy/health | 15:45 |
| mnaser | i.e. i'm seeing supply chains significantly slow down their operations and only serving 3 things which are considered essential based on the definition: medical, government and critical infrastructure | 15:45 |
| gmann | true | 15:46 |
| mnaser | what i have struggled with is the _huge_ lack of documentation | 15:46 |
| mnaser | its all moving so quickly and its not clear where things are documented | 15:46 |
| mnaser | guess its not just devs who dont write docs | 15:47 |
| mnaser | :P | 15:47 |
| jungleboyj | *SMH* | 15:47 |
| fungi | in the 24 hours since the county set up roadblocks on the bridges and started turning away visitors, >9k nonresident property owners (vacation home owners) have applied for entry permits. our resident population is <10k | 15:51 |
| jungleboyj | fungi: Out on an island is a good place to be right now. :-) | 15:52 |
| fungi | keep in mind that an entry permit basically covers everyone in your car, so assume that's 9k cars with an average of 3 people in each | 15:52 |
| jungleboyj | :-( | 15:53 |
| jungleboyj | Well, better than the 150k people in my county right now with easy access to the Twin Cities. | 15:53 |
| fungi | indeed | 15:53 |
| jungleboyj | People like smcginnis are spreading this thing all over the place. ;-) | 15:54 |
| fungi | hopefully your hospital has an icu | 15:54 |
| fungi | (ours does not) | 15:54 |
| jungleboyj | I can almost see the Mayo Clinic from my house. :-) | 15:54 |
| jungleboyj | Planning to not use it though. | 15:54 |
| fungi | how are the lines? ;) | 15:54 |
| jungleboyj | Actually not bad yet. And people are being good about not totally cleaning out the stores. *knock on wood* | 15:55 |
| jungleboyj | Lenovo is requiring at 14 day quarantine for just interstate travel. | 15:58 |
| mugsie | They annouced they were closing schools here on Thursday midday, by 13:00 there was no bread or wine left in the stores :) | 15:58 |
| mugsie | we have moved to 14 days self isolation for travellers coming from outside the island | 15:59 |
| fungi | yeah, tourists basically cleared out all our grocery and convenience stores in a matter of a couple days, which is one of the reasons we've had to stop allowing them in | 15:59 |
| fungi | the stores were stocking (and staffing) for the off-season resident population | 15:59 |
| mugsie | one advantage of schools / universities being closed is the shops have a workforce to pull form | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Heh, I haven't left the house since Sunday. So... typical week for me so far. ;) | 16:01 |
| spotz | He'll still blame you smcginnis | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Fair. :D | 16:02 |
| fungi | i'm technically still within the 14-day window for having been at a conference in boston | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | :-) I normally wouldn't care about not being able to leave the house but when I know I can't. It feel weird. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, I am half way through 14 days since coming back from Spring Training in Arizona. So, I haven't gone anywhere I might spread things except for required store runs. | 16:03 |
| fungi | to be perfectly honest, part of me is glad i have an excuse not to leave the house (though i wish it were under better circumstances). christine is getting cabin fever though | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: Actually sounds like he is being better than me. I will blame the millenials. | 16:03 |
| spotz | Only place I'm going is the barn to take care of the pony. Might order takeout this week to help with the small family owned restaurants | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | spotz: Yeah, we were going to do that this weekend to support our favorite restaurants. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | I've been meaning to buy up a bunch of gift cards from local small businesses. | 16:05 |
| fungi | yeah, we really only have small family-owned restaurants out here (chains restaurants can't figure out how to operate in a place with an order of magnitude population swell and fall annually), and they're all being hit really, really hard by this | 16:05 |
| spotz | fungi we're not as cyclic as you are but we always are happy when a favorite local place makes it through the winter | 16:05 |
| fungi | i feel bad, because i know a lot of them personally (especially the bartenders) and consider them friends, almost family | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Yeah, we have a couple places like that here in town. We get the bartenders Christmas and Birthday gifts. I am going to be so sad if any of them don't make it through this. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Hoping they are helping with the takeout business. | 16:07 |
| fungi | at least here the restaurant owners are used to closing for a few months out of the year anyway, and the local restaurant workers are used to filing for unemployment in the off-season because they can't get shifts. this is probably more challenging for businesses and a workforce who aren't used to it in places with steady year-round populations | 16:09 |
| spotz | yeah | 16:10 |
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| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/election master: Setup Victoria Elections Directories https://review.opendev.org/713758 | 23:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Setup Victoria Elections Directories https://review.opendev.org/713758 | 23:54 |
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