| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/election master: Close the Victoria TC election https://review.opendev.org/720102 | 00:05 |
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| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/election master: Fix missing option on README https://review.opendev.org/718386 | 00:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Close Victoria PTL election and post results https://review.opendev.org/717193 | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Include Leaderless projects in the PTL series results https://review.opendev.org/718317 | 00:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Tony Breeds proposed openstack/election master: Update the README to describe the current process for LEADERLESS process https://review.opendev.org/720105 | 00:18 |
| openstackgerrit | Ian Y. Choi proposed openstack/election master: Close the Victoria TC election https://review.opendev.org/720102 | 00:27 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Fix missing option on README https://review.opendev.org/718386 | 00:35 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Update the README to describe the current process for LEADERLESS process https://review.opendev.org/720105 | 00:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/governance master: goals: add container-images https://review.opendev.org/720107 | 00:43 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/governance master: goals: add container-images https://review.opendev.org/720107 | 00:47 |
| openstackgerrit | Kendall Nelson proposed openstack/governance master: Update Reference with Victoria Election Results https://review.opendev.org/720109 | 00:49 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/election master: Close the Victoria TC election https://review.opendev.org/720102 | 00:50 |
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| gmann | o/ | 01:02 |
| ianychoi | o/ | 01:02 |
| gmann | Welcome new TCs knikolla belmoreira and returning TCs mugsie mnaser rico ! | 01:06 |
| mnaser | thanks gmann :) | 01:06 |
| knikolla | o/ | 01:06 |
| knikolla | thank you :) | 01:06 |
| ianychoi | Welcome :) | 01:06 |
| ianychoi | I want to discuss with TC about extra ATC proposal steps after I18n team moves to SIG. | 01:07 |
| gmann | mnaser: can you propose the goal to goal/proposed dir instead of goal/selected ? and later we select the one out of all proposed one for Victoria. - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720107/2 | 01:07 |
| gmann | i have added that in etherpad too- https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/YVR-v-series-goals | 01:07 |
| mnaser | sure | 01:07 |
| gmann | thanks | 01:07 |
| openstackgerrit | Mohammed Naser proposed openstack/governance master: goals: add container-images https://review.opendev.org/720107 | 01:08 |
| mnaser | gmann: done :) | 01:09 |
| gmann | mnaser: thanks. | 01:09 |
| ianychoi | I18n team has proposed extra ATCs for translating >=300 words on official project repos into I18n team extra ATCs - after moving to SIG, I think I18n SIG can list up extra ATCs but my understanding is that actual project teams nominate extra ATCs. For example, suppose that there are active Horizon translators - then which steps would be great to nominate as extra ATCs for Horizion? | 01:10 |
| gmann | ianychoi: extra ATC were applicable for other projects also right along with I18n? | 01:10 |
| ianychoi | (Honestly, the number of translators is decreasing but I try to simulate possible future steps as current appointed I18n PTL) | 01:11 |
| ianychoi | gmann, yes :) | 01:11 |
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| mnaser | ianychoi: i like that idea actually | 01:14 |
| gmann | ianychoi: i think we can allow both, project as well as I18n SIG members for translation contribution. (if needed we can do with project PTL+1). | 01:14 |
| gmann | but allowing and trusting SIG member also enough IMO | 01:15 |
| ianychoi | mnaser, gmann: thank you for the comments! Then I think I18n team is almost ready to become SIG - will propose to governance repo :) | 01:16 |
| gmann | +1 thanks. | 01:17 |
| gmann | ianychoi: is it the case where translators are not associated for particular project page translation ? say few generic page like contributor guide etc. in that case how about keeping extra-ATC for I18n as separate section itself and SIG itself can modify those | 01:18 |
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| ianychoi | gmann, can I interpret as non-official projects, might it be documentation translation on official repos, or I18n contributor guide translation? | 01:22 |
| gmann | i will not say non-official as that works is for official projects itself wither direct project doc translation or any common doc helping those projects. | 01:23 |
| gmann | *either | 01:24 |
| ianychoi | Note that I18n team has proposed to AUC for translators on Foundation whitepapers, operator-guide, and other particular projects which are related to user side but not directly related to technical official repos - I have not talked with UC whether such steps still remain after I18n team becomes to SIG or not. Also, I have not followed-up too much on TC & UC combining discussion. | 01:25 |
| ianychoi | Extra ATC steps were only for translating targets on official repos | 01:25 |
| ianychoi | I have been dividing as ATC & AUC from translation stats but open now :) | 01:27 |
| ianychoi | extra SIG section would be also nice - but not sure whether extra SIG is eligible for TC election | 01:28 |
| gmann | ok. TC & UC combining things are not yet finalized. So with current model when you propose I18n as SIG then keep those extra-atc under I18n name itself but some governance auto doc scripts might need to be adjusted for that. | 01:28 |
| gmann | ianychoi: for I18N case, it should be as they are still contributor it is just we are moving the team model. | 01:29 |
| ianychoi | gmann, great :) Then some help on adjusting some governance auto doc scripts would be needed IMO | 01:31 |
| gmann | ianychoi: sure, before you propose let's wait for other TCs opinion also. tc-members ^^ | 01:33 |
| gmann | this is applicable for other project cases also which are moving to SIG like infra. | 01:34 |
| gmann | we need to add find the way for those SIG contributors as ATCs as those projects will be moved from project.yaml | 01:35 |
| ianychoi | Sure! I wanted to start to discuss today as TC office hour before I proceed next actions. I mainly reference previous SIG moving from Docs to Technical Writing but couldn't find extra ATC discussion since Docs have no problem - Docs are treated as code while translation is synced with Zanata (translate.o.o) | 01:36 |
| gmann | ianychoi: thanks for bringing that. I will remind this for TC discussion for Thursday office hour too. we need to find some way for that. | 01:37 |
| gmann | ianychoi: yeah that time we missed this point. | 01:37 |
| ianychoi | gmann, one issue from I18n team is that translation contribution is not calculated as a form of each contributor commit, while docs contribution can be automatically treated as APCs on each project. Now, since some other teams might move to SIG, I think it is a good timing to discuss more :) | 01:40 |
| gmann | true. | 01:41 |
| ianychoi | Thank you! | 01:41 |
| gmann | also added that in leaderless projects discussion etherpad - https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/victoria-leaderless | 01:44 |
| ianychoi | +1 :) | 01:46 |
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| evrardjp | good morning. | 07:14 |
| evrardjp | I am catching up. | 07:14 |
| evrardjp | I personally contacted the TC candidates who didn't get elected. I feel it's better to have a personal touch. | 07:15 |
| evrardjp | I will now catch up with the rest of our paperwork. | 07:15 |
| evrardjp | I am glad to see the PTL election patch got sorted on the election side | 07:16 |
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| evrardjp | And a warm welcome to the freshly elected TC members! | 07:26 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/governance master: Update projects.yaml for Victoria PTLs https://review.opendev.org/717197 | 07:27 |
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| evrardjp | ianychoi: gmann this extra ATC is good for office hours indeed. IMO we can have those into TC, horizon or <whatever> in governance. | 07:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Fold LOCI into OpenStack-Helm https://review.opendev.org/718933 | 07:36 |
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| cloudnull | o/ | 11:56 |
| mugsie | o/ | 12:04 |
| mugsie | welcome knikolla belmoreira ! | 12:07 |
| mugsie | nice to see you again mnaser ricolin :) | 12:07 |
| mugsie | and thank you very much yoctozepto donnyd jeremyfreudberg for running, I hope you feel like you can still contribute to the TC still - you should. It was great to see us have an election, and the interest from operators and people from smaller projects | 12:10 |
| smcginnis | Congrats all. | 12:10 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Philippe Evrard proposed openstack/governance master: Remove projects' TC liaisons https://review.opendev.org/720190 | 12:11 |
| evrardjp | mugsie: can you vote on https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720109/1 ? | 12:21 |
| mugsie | evrardjp: done | 12:22 |
| evrardjp | awesome | 12:24 |
| jroll | congrats to the noobs and not so noobs \o/ | 12:28 |
| asettle | \o/ | 12:28 |
| asettle | Indeed! | 12:28 |
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| evrardjp | jroll: haha | 13:07 |
| njohnston | Congratulations knikolla belmoreira mnaser ricolin mugsie! Best of luck next time yoctozepto donnyd jeremyfreudberg and please stay engaged! | 13:30 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 13:33 |
| gmann | o/ | 13:34 |
| jeremyfreudberg | thx mugsie njohnston - i am definitely planning to be engaged | 13:34 |
| knikolla | mugsie, njohnston: thank you! | 13:35 |
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| fungi | ianychoi: gmann: we recently (this cycle or last) started counting contributions to sig-controlled git repositories as atcs for election purposes | 14:16 |
| fungi | we could probably track extra-atcs in reference/sigs-repos.yaml for i18n activity and incorporate that into the electoral rolls | 14:18 |
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| evrardjp | fungi: that's good news. That's even easier. | 14:25 |
| gmann | fungi: that works perfectly. or keeping keeping in reference/project.yaml under sig-atcs section in case reference/sigs-repos.yaml become confusing for people. | 14:33 |
| gmann | and when/if TC and UC merge happen then we anyways need reference/sig-repos.yaml and that time we can move those from reference/project.yaml. | 14:35 |
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| fungi | putting sigs information in projects.yaml seems confusing, to be honest, that's why we have a separate sig-repos.yaml file | 14:39 |
| gmann | that also valid point. i thought because it is atc nothing but contributing in project directly or indirectly. but i agree that it might be more confusing. | 14:41 |
| yoctozepto | mugsie, njohnston: thank you; looking forward to contributing; @all - feel free to ping me about anything containerization-wise, always happy to share my 2 cents there | 14:54 |
| jungleboyj | mnaser: Did you get a chance to look at the baremetal whitepaper? | 14:55 |
| ricolin | njohnston, thx:) | 14:59 |
| ricolin | thx mugsie | 15:00 |
| ricolin | welcome knikolla belmoreira:) | 15:00 |
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| knikolla | ricolin: thanks :) | 15:06 |
| gmann | tc-members: we need to find the better words for end date of new TCs term - https://review.opendev.org/#/c/720109/1 | 15:12 |
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| ianychoi | evrardjp, fungi: thank you for mentioning on extra-atc - looks like a good direction :) | 15:51 |
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| openstackgerrit | Rodolfo Alonso Hernandez proposed openstack/governance master: Migrate from olso.rootwrap to oslo.privsep https://review.opendev.org/718177 | 16:43 |
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| openstackgerrit | Yasufumi Ogawa proposed openstack/governance master: Appoint Yasufumi Ogawa as Tacker PTL https://review.opendev.org/719091 | 19:00 |
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