| ianychoi[m] | Sharing the summary of nominations: PTL - 6 projects without candidates: Adjutant, Heat, Monasca, Puppet_OpenStack, Sahara, Zun | 00:03 |
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| ianychoi[m] | Cyborg election will happen | 00:03 |
| ianychoi[m] | TC: 4 candidates / 4 seats | 00:04 |
| gmann | tc-members: created a etherpad to discuss about 6 project leaders assignments https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-leaderless | 00:08 |
| ianychoi[m] | Have sent nominations end: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024401.html and TC campaigning kick-off e-mails: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-discuss/2021-August/024402.html | 00:08 |
| mnaser | adjutant might have been missed | 00:08 |
| * mnaser looks at ricolin wrt heat (not sure if they sent a non-candidacy) | 00:08 | |
| gmann | i have not seen non-candidacy. pinged him in morning too. let's see | 00:10 |
| ianychoi[m] | tc-members: Since all nomination period ends, it is time again to tag governance repository. Would someone help to propose 0.10.0 tag like the previous 0.9.0 patch: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/805437 ? Then election officials can generate polls for one PTL election. | 00:16 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: sure, doing | 00:16 |
| ianychoi[m] | gmann: thank you!! | 00:16 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/releases/+/805917 | 00:22 |
| ianychoi[m] | Thank you! | 00:26 |
| opendevreview | Amy Marrich proposed openstack/election master: Update REEADME for correct location and close out TC election https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805918 | 00:34 |
| opendevreview | Amy Marrich proposed openstack/election master: Update README for correct location and close out TC election https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/805918 | 00:35 |
| spotz | Congrrats gmann dansmith jungleboyj diablo_rojo_phone! | 01:08 |
| dansmith | man, so much with the double letters.. REEADME and congrrats | 01:08 |
| dansmith | thhhhhhanks! | 01:08 |
| * dansmith wonders if spotz has an ill-tempered butterfly keyboard | 01:09 | |
| dansmith | I have one, but it remains hermetically sealed all the time, so no trouble yet, but I have friends with horror stories | 01:10 |
| spotz | No I tend to need a mac keyboard replacement after a year:( | 01:10 |
| dansmith | because butterfly or because you type with the force of a thousand spotz? | 01:11 |
| spotz | I try to catch the typos and fix before I enter. Most foolks who know me at this poiont just read through the typoes:) | 01:11 |
| * dansmith puts on his spotz specs | 01:11 | |
| spotz | There's just something about the Mac keyboards:( And I mean the built in ones | 01:12 |
| dansmith | huh, aside from the known-faulty butterfly I don't really hear about many people with problems with them.. must be some amazing typing prowess.. wear 'em out too quick, | 01:13 |
| gmann | spotz: thanks | 01:15 |
| spotz | I think they just get sticky. I've sent them off to Apple to get replaced before and they had pre-COVID a really fast turn around. They can't fix them in store | 01:15 |
| dansmith | yeah, cause they're glued in | 01:16 |
| spotz | I'm definitely not a fast typer and I don't think I bang on them:( | 01:16 |
| dansmith | just to be clear, you know that the 2016-late2019s are a new design that are known to do this and that they've reverted back to real keyboards from 2020 on right? | 01:17 |
| dansmith | failure rate of those was like 80% or something crazy like that | 01:18 |
| dansmith | one of those apple "innovations nobody asked for" that didn't work out | 01:18 |
| dansmith | and there's no fixing them, just replace them with the same, only to fail again soon | 01:19 |
| spotz | dansmith: Yeah but mine's the older one and I'm not anywhere near being due for a new one | 01:19 |
| dansmith | yeah, so you're in for replace-wash-rinse-repeat until that point unfortunately :/ | 01:20 |
| dansmith | but at least know it'll get better once you do get your upgrade | 01:20 |
| fungi | ibm model m keyboard. if it starts acting up, just put it through a cycle in the dishwasher | 01:20 |
| spotz | Yeah I think it's in another 18 months to 2 years:) | 01:21 |
| spotz | Y'all will have plenty of time to learn the new language of spotz:) | 01:22 |
| ricolin | tc-members, for PTLless project Heat, I will volunteer to run for next term | 02:07 |
| spotz | Thanks ricolin | 02:07 |
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| jungleboyj | spotz: Thank you! | 12:36 |
| jungleboyj | Congratulations gmann dansmith diablo_rojo_phone ! | 12:37 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Thank you! Congratulations to you :) | 12:37 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Thanks. | 12:38 |
| * fungi raises his mug of coffee in a congratulatory manner | 12:38 | |
| gmann | thanks, and you too | 12:40 |
| gmann | spotz: ianychoi[m] governance 0.10.0 tag is released, please proceed on PTL poll | 12:41 |
| yoctozepto | congratulations to all of you :-) and happy to have you still | 12:43 |
| spotz | I think we have the Cyborg election to deal with next from elections side and getting voluneteers for the leaderless proojects fromo the TC side | 12:45 |
| fungi | i went into some detail in the elections channel, but just to reiterate here, direct outreach to cyborg ptl electors would probably be advisable because there are so few of them and they may not be the most connected to the rest of the community when it comes to communications about things like election activities | 12:47 |
| gmann | spotz: yeah, for leaderless projects, this is etherpad to start the discussion https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/yoga-leaderless | 12:47 |
| yoctozepto | ++ | 12:51 |
| smcginnis | Adjutant has always been a really weird one. We took forever to accept them as an official project, then by the time we did some of the folks working on it had moved on I think. | 13:50 |
| smcginnis | From the releases side we had to prompt them every time to get a release out. | 13:50 |
| smcginnis | Not sure if it should just be retired at this point (or just moved under the x/ namespace). | 13:50 |
| yoctozepto | smcginnis: yeah, based on this and your statements, I think it deserves to be moved out of the openstack governance | 13:58 |
| dansmith | is puppet openstack not used by tripleo? | 13:59 |
| dansmith | I thought it was | 13:59 |
| yoctozepto | dansmith: me too | 13:59 |
| dansmith | if so, we could ask them to take it maybe | 13:59 |
| yoctozepto | let's ask on #tripleo ? | 14:00 |
| mnaser | dansmith: i think it still is used by tripleo to generate config files | 14:00 |
| dansmith | mnaser: I know they use some puppet stuff, assumed it's this, but.. | 14:00 |
| yoctozepto | yeah, they likely don't use everything there | 14:01 |
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| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: Add build folder in .gitignore https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/801546 | 14:44 |
| ttx | congrats all! | 14:55 |
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| TheJulia | dansmith: AIUI, it is just configuration file generation as mnaser stated | 15:16 |
| dansmith | TheJulia: yes, that was my expectation, but we've since chatted with the tripleo team about it | 15:16 |
| TheJulia | dansmith: ack | 15:17 |
| * TheJulia goes on to the next screen | 15:17 | |
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| ianychoi[m] | gmann: thanks a lot! there are total 18 electors for Cyborg PTL election using 0.10.0 tag. While I agree with some concerns from fungi, not sure how election can move forward rather than following CIVS tool as we have been doing. spotz tagging also for your visibility. | 17:07 |
| fungi | yes, i was more suggesting that in the interest of helping the cyborg ptl election go smoothly, it might be good to try to spread the word specifically to the cyborg electorate about the upcoming poll before next week | 17:09 |
| fungi | and in particular, that they'll need to authorize civs to send them a ballot in advance | 17:09 |
| fungi | it would not entirely surprise me if only a handful of them have, and is not completely outside the realm of possibility that none have | 17:10 |
| gmann | I think we can proceed poll. cyborg teams are active in meeitng or IRC so they should be knowing about election and should check their email. we do not get 100% votes in any elections. | 17:20 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: spotz may be we can send CIVS poll opt-in option to 18 electors first? | 17:21 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: I'd say it would be a pretty tough democracy if only the candidates actually voted ;-) | 17:26 |
| gmann | yoctozepto: well, I have commit on cyborg so candidates +1 at least :P | 17:27 |
| yoctozepto | gmann: :D | 17:28 |
| gmann | ianychoi[m]: spotz 18 are not so big number and while adding them in poll you ca get to know who all need to opt-in as CIVS warn it in advance | 17:29 |
| gmann | based on that you can email them and they opt-in | 17:30 |
| gmann | while creating poll, CIVS will tell if added voter is opt-in or not, if not the it would not add it in authorized voter itself. | 17:31 |
| gmann | that is how i did for release naming election. keep informing remaining voters to opt-in and add them once they do | 17:33 |
| gmann | add them in poll | 17:33 |
| fungi | yep, there's a week's time in there between when the organizers find out which voters can immediately recieve ballots and when the poll closes, so an opportunity for folks (tc members, cyborg ptl candidates, anyone) to reach out and convince the others to authorize it if they're interested in participating in the vote | 18:03 |
| fungi | but sending out a reminder on the ml with [cyborg] in the subject or making sure it's brought up in the cyborg weekly meeting could go a long way toward saving the officials the hassle of re-adding voters so ther can receive ballots later in the week | 18:05 |
| opendevreview | Merged openstack/election master: bump py35,py37 to py3 in tox.ini https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/election/+/757376 | 18:16 |
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