gmann | tc-members: our next week meeting is on 6th, a video call, I will be in infra tv episode and yoctozepto is also not available. Please let me know who can chair the meeting this week? | 00:23 |
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spotz | gmann: You need me to +W this? I'm the only +2 on it - https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/contributor-guide/+/821371 | 02:22 |
gmann | spotz: I was waiting for ianychoi[m] to +W, he added few comments there but need to re-check those | 02:49 |
spotz | gmann Sounds good, I just didn't want it waiting if it was an emergency | 02:50 |
gmann | sure | 02:56 |
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gmann | tc-members: any volunteer to run tomorrow meeting? | 16:40 |
Guest10351 | gmann: I'm going to be partially double-booked for that slot this week already.. if not enough people are around after break, maybe best to punt? | 16:46 |
Guest10351 | oh jeez | 16:46 |
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gmann | dansmith: ok. let's check who all available | 16:49 |
gmann | spotz: belmoreira mnaser jungleboyj ricolin and kendal: who all are available for tomorrow meeting? | 16:50 |
gmann | I think Kendall is on vacation this week so we left with 5 TC members | 16:54 |
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spotz | gmann does that even make quorum? | 19:47 |
jungleboyj | I am double booked in a phone meeting and tc meeting so couldn't run it by planning to attend. | 20:29 |
dansmith | it's a video one... gonna be on video and phone at the same time? | 20:50 |
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gmann | spotz: if 5 then it is quorum but we do not need quorum as such to have meeting. few meeting even without quorum is fine. | 21:19 |
fungi | it doesn't officially count as a "meeting of the tc" if there is no quorum, but it's fine for it to be an unofficial/informal gathering | 21:20 |
fungi | and at this point, the bylaws only require that the tc "meets" (i.e. with quorum) at least once a year | 21:21 |
spotz | I can definitely start the meeting room and we can do an informal? | 21:21 |
gmann | spotz: thanks. I will send the agenda on ML today EOD. | 21:21 |
fungi | and it's probably even fine to refer to it as a "tc meeting" without quorum, you just have to keep in mind that such a meeting doesn't count from the perspective of the requirement in the foundation bylaws | 21:22 |
gmann | as these are weekly meeting, hey are formal but not every meeting need quorum (and having only one meeting with quorum complete the bylaw requirement) | 21:22 |
fungi | as long as at least one of them every year achieves quorum, you're set | 21:22 |
gmann | we can avoid taking any formal decision in meeting which we do not usually take. its on gerrit always | 21:23 |
fungi | yes, that was one of the reasons the tc was able to decide to only officially "meet" at in-person events a few times a year | 21:23 |
fungi | the re-addition of more frequent meetings is a recent choice, relatively speaking | 21:24 |
gmann | spotz: added you as chair for meeting https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 21:24 |
gmann | spotz: also as it is video call, please record and save so that we can publish (just reminder). | 21:25 |
spotz | gmann: How did starting the room become chair?:) | 21:26 |
gmann | spotz: we do in IRC startmeeting and end meeting which will record you as chair and video is just you go through the agenda | 21:27 |
gmann | like this - https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2021/tc.2021-12-02-15.02.log.html | 21:28 |
fungi | meeting chairperson, not tc chairperson ;) | 21:28 |
spotz | Allright, hoopefully we'lll have people who can talkl. on the agenda points or it'll be a fast meeting:) | 21:28 |
fungi | though there is some linguistic irony in having a chair for a standing meeting! | 21:28 |
gmann | spotz: yeah. not much on agenda though | 21:28 |
gmann | tc-members: its short notice (which is what i got :)), for tomorrow infra tv episode, I am preparing these slides about 2021 recap and 2022 plan. Please check and add your feedback or things i missed there to add https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1cQA790qfRvHogm0LAtbop4a9KRMpyXOsbEj5Mft3TG4/edit#slide=id.g10bb17de53f_0_7 | 21:31 |
gmann | deadline is today EOD. | 21:31 |
TheJulia | gmann: personally, I'd condense the last two slides together | 21:33 |
TheJulia | pain points may be a long term thing in varying areas which is going to work into each project just like any community effort... as bandwidth exists to review and iterate. | 21:33 |
TheJulia | so there is no guarentee, and thus it is beyond potentially | 21:33 |
gmann | TheJulia: yeah, I need to add two topic for those but I am still preparing those | 21:34 |
TheJulia | Also, better to under promise and over deliver | 21:34 |
gmann | ack | 21:34 |
gmann | will see how they will look like. but yes pain point is something I will mvoe to 2022 focus area | 21:34 |
spotz | I know FIPS isn't confirmed yet but do we want to mention the possibility of compliance? | 21:40 |
spotz | Maybe alllso add the release name on slide 8? | 21:41 |
fungi | magnum renewed its kubernetes installer conformance, no idea if you want to mention that (or whether you have since i'm not in front of the slides right now) but it might be a big deal | 21:43 |
fungi | also openstack has recently re-acquired its openssf best practices badge (formerly the core infrastructure initiative) https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en/projects/246 | 21:48 |
fungi | the requirements for that changed slightly when openssf replaced the cii | 21:49 |
gmann | spotz: fungi thanks. I will add features things which is still TODO. | 21:52 |
gmann | openssf is nice one to add, thanks for reminding. | 21:52 |
fungi | yeah, things like openssf and kubernetes conformance are great for showing cross-community collaboration, in my opinion | 21:53 |
gmann | agree, +1 | 21:54 |
jungleboyj | Ok, if tomorrow is a video meeting I will need to figure out how to prioritize the TC meeting. | 21:55 |
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