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| dansmith | gmann: I'm double-booked for the meeting slot today, fyi | 14:42 |
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| gmann | dansmith: ack, I do not think we have much topic today but I will get back to you later if needed anything | 14:43 |
| dansmith | kthx | 14:43 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/project-team-guide master: Move the projects list following the stable branch policy https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/project-team-guide/+/834796 | 14:46 |
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| slaweq | gmann: it's the same for me, I'm on the same meeting as dansmith :) | 14:54 |
| gmann | slaweq: ack. np! | 14:55 |
| gmann | tc-members: meeting here in 5 min from now | 14:55 |
| jungleboyj | Gotcha! | 14:56 |
| gmann | #startmeeting tc | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting started Thu Mar 24 15:00:31 2022 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| opendevmeet | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 15:00 |
| gmann | #topic Roll call | 15:00 |
| gmann | o/ | 15:00 |
| knikolla | o/ | 15:00 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 15:00 |
| slaweq | o/ | 15:01 |
| rosmaita | o/ | 15:01 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | o/ | 15:02 |
| gmann | we have less topic today so might be quick meeting. let's start | 15:02 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee#Next_Meeting | 15:02 |
| rosmaita | gmann: ++ | 15:02 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 15:02 |
| gmann | #topic Follow up on past action items | 15:02 |
| gmann | 1. gmann to add recheck data topic in PTG etherpad (TC and TC+PTL for awareness) | 15:02 |
| gmann | I have added this topic on both etherpad | 15:02 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-zed-ptg#L111 | 15:03 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-ptl-interaction-zed#L31 | 15:03 |
| gmann | #topic Gate health check | 15:03 |
| gmann | any news on gate? | 15:03 |
| gmann | 1 is about centos9-stream volume detach issue | 15:04 |
| gmann | with tempest test change to SSH-able server before detach, test are passing and so does job | 15:04 |
| gmann | I have made this job as voting on tempest as well as on devstack side | 15:05 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/tempest/+/834350 | 15:05 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/devstack/+/834546 | 15:05 |
| gmann | for now it is passing but we ill be monitoring its stability | 15:05 |
| gmann | and monitoring with voting job will get more attention as n-v jobs are always gets ignored | 15:06 |
| fungi | we're seeing some instability with the inap-mtl01 region (the one slated to go offline a week from today), where a small number of jobs have encountered host key mismatch errors or, less often but a bit worse, run on a used node and sometimes even the wrong distro entirely | 15:06 |
| fungi | the former sysadmins apparently still have access to those systems and are looking into it for us | 15:06 |
| gmann | fungi: ok. how many server? and will it impact on final release of Yoga? | 15:08 |
| fungi | the number hitting this problem is unknown but probably no more than a few percent of the available quota there. assuming they solve it (which is likely) then there will be no impact to release job stability. if they can't solve it, we'll remove that provider from our configuration (probably by the end of this week) | 15:09 |
| gmann | i see | 15:10 |
| gmann | I think we can have a check on all these issue and the provider dropping one in PTG and discuss if any impact on Zed development cycle. what you say? | 15:11 |
| gmann | I think no reply means yes :) | 15:13 |
| gmann | #action gmann to add 'CI/CD and infra resources/service state' in PTG etherpad | 15:13 |
| gmann | I will check with fungi clarkb about best time for their availability and also dpawlik | 15:14 |
| gmann | anything else on gate health? | 15:14 |
| gmann | I have not seen any other major/frequent failure this week | 15:14 |
| rosmaita | \o/ | 15:15 |
| fungi | gmann: yes, sounds good | 15:15 |
| gmann | fungi: thanks. | 15:15 |
| gmann | #topic PTG Preparation | 15:15 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-zed-ptg | 15:15 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.opendev.org/p/tc-ptl-interaction-zed | 15:16 |
| gmann | these ^^ are etherpad for PTG, please add topic you are interested to discuss | 15:16 |
| gmann | there is one topic added at the end of TC PTG etherpad which I am not clear if that is suitable for PTG or forum "(vipratos) Introduction to KupenStack" | 15:17 |
| gmann | so i asked question there | 15:17 |
| gmann | otherwise nothing else to say on PTG. anyone have anything? | 15:17 |
| jungleboyj | Nothing from me. | 15:18 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | Should I invite k8s folks? | 15:18 |
| gmann | and schedule per topic we will prepare during 1 hr of PTG on Thursday but you can always add your preferable time/day per topic | 15:18 |
| rosmaita | quick question about the tc-ptl interaction | 15:18 |
| slaweq | me neighter | 15:18 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo_phone: I did, waiting for their reply | 15:18 |
| rosmaita | is "ptl" shorthand for community leaders? | 15:18 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: Good question. :-) | 15:19 |
| gmann | rosmaita: kind of no, we try to use community leaders but for short form we end up using PTL :) | 15:19 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | gmann: oh I missed that. I will push it along. | 15:19 |
| gmann | but etherpad name I think I should have made something like tc-eaders-interaction or so :) | 15:19 |
| rosmaita | ok, my question is whether it would be appropriate for me to request that cinder cores attend the cadence outcome discussion | 15:19 |
| jungleboyj | rosmaita: I would think so. I think having eharney there as a distro rep would be good. | 15:20 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | It's not like it's exclusive. Anyone is allowed to join. | 15:21 |
| gmann | rosmaita: yes, off course. along with PTL, SIG chair anyone from core team or previous leadersship like PTG etc can join | 15:21 |
| rosmaita | well, i didn't want to crash the party | 15:21 |
| rosmaita | ok, cool, ty | 15:21 |
| fungi | yeah, i will feel free to speak my mind and i'm not a ptl ;) | 15:21 |
| diablo_rojo_phone | We encourage at a minimum, PTLs etc | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | TC activities are to be transparent ... so .. | 15:21 |
| gmann | rosmaita: this interaction sessions started from last PTG but we had few core in last PTG also | 15:21 |
| spotz | o/ I'm late got puppy distracted | 15:21 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phone: ++ | 15:21 |
| gmann | as much as attendees we have, it will be more interactive sessions | 15:22 |
| gmann | as background, we tried to get community feedback on TC in ML but it did not work out | 15:22 |
| gmann | so we thought of doing this interactive sessions in PTG and it worked well. | 15:23 |
| jungleboyj | Makes sense. | 15:23 |
| gmann | idea is to get community feedback on TC that how TC should work and focus on things | 15:23 |
| gmann | doing more technical work or so. In last PTG, we were asked about 'what TC does other than project add/remove' and I was happy on that question | 15:24 |
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| gmann | and I think we improved a lot from there :) | 15:24 |
| gmann | even everyone can spread the word about this sessions to their known leaders. | 15:25 |
| gmann | anything else on PTG topic? | 15:26 |
| arne_wiebalck | o/ (sorry for being late, usual meeting clash) | 15:26 |
| gmann | arne_wiebalck: spotz np! | 15:26 |
| spotz | arne_wiebalck: You had a better excuse then puppy distracted:) | 15:26 |
| arne_wiebalck | spotz: heh, no :-D | 15:27 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 15:27 |
| gmann | :) | 15:27 |
| spotz | hehe | 15:27 |
| gmann | #topic Open Reviews | 15:27 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:27 |
| gmann | few of the reviews are ready , please vote on those | 15:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I will have a new patchset up today addressing comments | 15:28 |
| gmann | diablo_rojo_phone: on Tech pre-view, I commented about not doing resolution instead writing the framework, if that make sense? | 15:28 |
| diablo_rojo | I had not gone through all the comments yet. | 15:29 |
| gmann | idea is to have something where TC can monitor the things as per checklist and entry/exit criteria of project | 15:29 |
| gmann | sure | 15:29 |
| gmann | no hurry | 15:29 |
| gmann | other than that, we have two reviews ready for completing the tag framework removal | 15:30 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/q/projects:openstack/governance+is:open | 15:30 |
| gmann | oh | 15:30 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/834798 | 15:30 |
| gmann | #link https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/834327 | 15:30 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo: Writing a comment:) | 15:30 |
| diablo_rojo | spotz, sounds good. | 15:31 |
| gmann | one last thing. | 15:31 |
| gmann | we are going to have PTG on april 4th week where we will meet f2f | 15:31 |
| gmann | and next Thursday I will host openinfra episode on Yoga release | 15:31 |
| gmann | and few TC also will be there | 15:31 |
| gmann | should we cancel the next week meeting and meet at PTG ? | 15:32 |
| jungleboyj | That sounds good to me. | 15:32 |
| gmann | next week meeting on 31st March? | 15:32 |
| gmann | I mean cancel next week meeting of 31st March | 15:33 |
| gmann | I am confusing with my writing :) | 15:33 |
| jungleboyj | That sounds like a plan if a number of people are going to be in the OpenInfra meeting. | 15:34 |
| gmann | any objection? | 15:34 |
| gmann | jungleboyj: yeah | 15:34 |
| rosmaita | no objection from me | 15:34 |
| knikolla | works for me | 15:34 |
| spotz | Keep next week cancel the following one? | 15:34 |
| gmann | spotz: cancel next week and meet directly at PTG | 15:34 |
| spotz | Oh sounds like cancel the next 2 for the Livestream and PTG | 15:35 |
| diablo_rojo | I would just cancel the next two? (for open infra live and then the PTG) | 15:35 |
| gmann | yes | 15:35 |
| spotz | Oh ok meet during the PTG:) | 15:35 |
| diablo_rojo | As a heads up, I will be in APAC timezone all of April so its going to be... painful/ not feasible to join meetings for that month. If there is something I need to be around for I can be, but I will be reading logs otherwise. | 15:35 |
| gmann | PTG one will be canceled automatically but yes | 15:35 |
| gmann | #action gmann to cancel next two meetings. | 15:36 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds good to me. | 15:36 |
| gmann | ack | 15:36 |
| gmann | that is all from my side today | 15:36 |
| gmann | if nothing else then we can close | 15:36 |
| diablo_rojo | Nothing else from me. | 15:36 |
| gmann | ok, thanks everyone for joining and be safe. | 15:37 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Meeting ended Thu Mar 24 15:37:18 2022 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-03-24-15.00.html | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Minutes (text): https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-03-24-15.00.txt | 15:37 |
| opendevmeet | Log: https://meetings.opendev.org/meetings/tc/2022/tc.2022-03-24-15.00.log.html | 15:37 |
| jungleboyj | Thank you! | 15:37 |
| spotz | Thanks gmann | 15:41 |
| opendevreview | Ghanshyam proposed openstack/governance master: Add goal readiness checklist https://review.opendev.org/c/openstack/governance/+/835102 | 17:15 |
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| fungi | gmann: i just saw the note about cancelling next week's tc meeting. keep in mind that openinfra live follows usa dst, so as of last week it no longer happens at the same time as the tc meeting | 22:51 |
| fungi | at least not for the next ~6mos | 22:51 |
| gmann | fungi: yeah, it start early but might end up some overalp time with TC meeting. | 22:52 |
| fungi | that's a fair point | 22:56 |
| gmann | and its just before PTG and after yoga final release so a break for us :) | 22:57 |
| fungi | absolutely | 22:57 |
| spotz | And it gives me more puppy time while he's still little:) | 23:12 |
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