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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Don't mock ceph https://review.openstack.org/371301 | 06:23 |
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| korean101 | hi guys | 08:11 |
| korean101 | how can i get "Resource ID" like this (instance-000001a2-3cd236f1-818f-4d40-91aa-f47a4c3670b8-tap1ae9d2d8-a5)? | 08:12 |
| korean101 | not cli command and grep | 08:12 |
| sileht | / | 08:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add a S3 based storage driver https://review.openstack.org/354131 | 09:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tests: fix wrong variable usage in run-tests https://review.openstack.org/382800 | 09:31 |
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| ipo | hello all !!! | 09:53 |
| ipo | Is it possible to use disk.usage in mitaka and how to enable it ? | 09:54 |
| ipo | ceilometer meter-list doesn't show such meter | 09:55 |
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| ipo | Hello all !!! | 10:21 |
| ipo | How to enable disk.usage meter in ceilometer (openstack Mitaka) ? | 10:22 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: make gnocchi event dispatcher work https://review.openstack.org/377374 | 11:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/panko: devstack: don't override ceilometer setup https://review.openstack.org/382866 | 11:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: devstack: allow to configure not backend https://review.openstack.org/382870 | 11:40 |
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| EmilienM | hum | 12:00 |
| EmilienM | what is http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/almanach ? | 12:00 |
| EmilienM | "**Collector**: Listen for OpenStack events and store the relevant information in the database." | 12:00 |
| sileht | EmilienM, seems similar to what panko does | 12:01 |
| EmilienM | yeah, who did that? | 12:02 |
| EmilienM | it sounds like iWeb | 12:02 |
| sileht | EmilienM, I don't kown but this doesn't use oslo.messaging, it uses rabbitmq directly via kombu | 12:02 |
| EmilienM | beurk | 12:03 |
| sileht | they uses mongo... | 12:03 |
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| sileht | they write code for something that only descriptible and can be done in yaml/json/... | 12:04 |
| sileht | EmilienM, I like to see new project write the same crap we do in Ceilometer and we want remove .... | 12:05 |
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| EmilienM | mgagne: ^ | 12:06 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: Hi, i'm trying to upgrade gnocchi from 2.2.1 to 3.0.0 and it fails to upgrade the storage | 14:09 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: http://pastebin.com/CnDYtkEU | 14:09 |
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| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: what's your backend driver? | 14:14 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: ceph | 14:14 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: I'll need you to dump some data so I can understand what's going on, will you be able to help? :) | 14:15 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: yes! | 14:16 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: can you retrieve the metric id that is having this issue and list the content in ceph for that metric id? | 14:16 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: yes, give me a while | 14:17 |
| jd__ | no prob sergio_nubeliu :) | 14:22 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: http://pastebin.com/wMcHUvaj | 14:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Set code on HTTPException https://review.openstack.org/383002 | 14:40 |
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| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: coolio | 14:42 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: can you try to run gnocchi-upgrade with a change like that http://paste.openstack.org/show/584692/ | 14:43 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: so I can understand what values it's trying to multiply | 14:43 |
| jd__ | I imagine 31104000.0 is the problem | 14:44 |
| jd__ | that's one point per 360 days lol, is that what you want ? that's weird | 14:44 |
| sergio_nubeliu | yes, that is one year aggregated, why not? | 14:45 |
| gordc | hmmm.. i'd imagine taht is going to crash things. having to aggregate 31million points is giong to takea long time. | 14:45 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: no it's one point per year, so just one value for a whole year | 14:46 |
| gordc | (probably) not related to the error though | 14:46 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: that's not really precise :) | 14:46 |
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| jd__ | yeah pandas.Timestamp(0) + datetime.timedelta(seconds=111974400000.0) overflows | 14:47 |
| jd__ | ^_^ | 14:47 |
| jd__ | e.g. pandas.Timestamp(0) + datetime.timedelta(seconds=31104000.0 * 3600) | 14:47 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: we create monthly reports and use those granularities without problem | 14:47 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: that's not the one you use for those reports | 14:48 |
| jd__ | 3600 or 86400 more likely | 14:49 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: no but we add those to eventually create yearly reports | 14:49 |
| jd__ | yeah ok | 14:49 |
| jd__ | anyway I need to fix that, it's a nasty bug | 14:49 |
| jd__ | we don't test such big values | 14:49 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: we do :) | 14:49 |
| gordc | i dont' know if we should accomodate such granualarities. everytime a point comes in, it has to load up to 31million points into memory | 14:50 |
| gordc | that sucks. | 14:50 |
| gordc | i imagine you don't really need exact precision on annual numbers. | 14:51 |
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| gordc | getting the mean of the hourly means should be good enough for a annual data point, no? | 14:53 |
| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: sure, that sucks, it shouldn't update everytime a point comes in | 14:53 |
| jd__ | yeah the problem is that with an archive yearly, you end up with a Carbonara split that start in 1970 and stores up to year 5570 lol which is too big to encode, that's why it overflows | 14:53 |
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| jd__ | how to handle year 5570 | 14:54 |
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| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: your system is probably slow enough taht it doesn't update every point. i think the issue is looking 31million datapoints sucks no matter if it happens 1000 time or 1 time | 14:56 |
| gordc | especially considering your annual aggregate at day 1 will probably be a lot diff from day 365 but we're still computing it from day 1-365 | 14:58 |
| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: the measures were up to date | 14:58 |
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| gordc | s/looking/loading/ | 15:00 |
| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: what do you mean the measures were up to date? | 15:01 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: do you still need to run gnocchi-upgrade with a change like that http://paste.openstack.org/show/584692 | 15:02 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: no I'm good :) I'm trying to write a fix | 15:04 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: gnocchi status returns measures to process 0 | 15:04 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Set code and details on HTTPException https://review.openstack.org/383002 | 15:05 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__, gordc: should i report a bug to update granularities with custom precision (so a yearly granularity updates every hour or day according to needs) | 15:11 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: I don't follow? | 15:11 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: gordc says that such big granularities, everytime a point comes in, it has to load up to 31million points into memory | 15:13 |
| jd__ | yep | 15:13 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: an improve could be to update bigger granularities using the the lower nearest for example | 15:14 |
| jd__ | ah you mean stacking? like computing monthly then yearly based on monthly? | 15:15 |
| jd__ | that would be feature indeed | 15:16 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: yes, that could be a solution | 15:16 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__, gordc: what do you think? | 15:17 |
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| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: yeah feel free to log a wishlist bug :) | 15:19 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/aodh: Handle case where sample-api is disabled https://review.openstack.org/383041 | 15:51 |
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| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: sorry, stepped out for a meeting | 16:06 |
| gordc | think i might have created a similar bug | 16:06 |
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| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1564421 | 16:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1564421 in Gnocchi "short interval measures may cause issue on long policies" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 16:07 |
| gordc | the title is misleading. | 16:08 |
| gordc | but it's basically what you folks proposed. 'computing yearly based on monthly/hourly' | 16:09 |
| ipo | Hello all, I can't see metrics in ceilometer metric-list, but they exists in pipeline.yaml (I've added them manually). What I need to check first ? | 16:19 |
| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: i had already created https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1631046 | 16:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1631046 in Gnocchi "Allow to compute granularities using a staked approach" [Undecided,New] | 16:21 |
| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: cool. i'll just mark mine as duplicate | 16:22 |
| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: the aggregate of aggregate you proposed could be a better option because you can define exactly how to do the aggregation for each granularity | 16:24 |
| gordc | yeah, i think the idea was you define a resample granularity and it would compute it based on whatever origin granualarity you had specified | 16:26 |
| gordc | of course annual mean of hourly means isn't accurate but it's close enough? | 16:26 |
| gordc | s/accurate/exact/ | 16:27 |
| gordc | it would say you a lot of CPU and memory not having to compute it constantly. | 16:27 |
| gordc | s/say/save/ | 16:28 |
| gordc | brb. have another meeting. | 16:29 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: yes, i aggree with you, we also use gnocchi for costs with cloudkitty, we only have sum aggregation so we don't loose precision aggregating hourly or monthly | 16:32 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnocchi/+bug/1631046 | 17:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1631046 in Gnocchi "Allow to compute granularities using a custom source granularity" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 17:15 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: did you have the fix for the upgrade? | 17:16 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: I'm testing it | 17:23 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: thank you! | 17:24 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/aodh: Enable release notes translation https://review.openstack.org/383194 | 18:23 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/ceilometer: Enable release notes translation https://review.openstack.org/383203 | 18:25 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/ceilometermiddleware: Enable release notes translation https://review.openstack.org/383205 | 18:25 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/python-aodhclient: Enable release notes translation https://review.openstack.org/383362 | 18:48 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Enable release notes translation https://review.openstack.org/383365 | 18:49 |
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| gordc | sergio_nubeliu: oh, you only do sum? then i guess all is fine then :) | 18:57 |
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| cdent | "a truly open source time-series service" what was it before? | 19:36 |
| gordc | you paid me | 19:43 |
| gordc | i gave magic. | 19:43 |
| gordc | this sounds bad | 19:43 |
| gordc | i retract | 19:43 |
| gordc | disregard all that was mentioned. | 19:43 |
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| gordc | lol. this is the quality you get in this channel. lower expectations | 19:44 |
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| cdent | gordc: I'm proud of you | 20:03 |
| cdent | you've achieved so much | 20:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/panko: devstack: don't override ceilometer setup https://review.openstack.org/382866 | 20:05 |
| gordc | cdent: ;) | 20:05 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: sorry, i was out. we have an archive policy for costs with only sum, but we also have others | 20:26 |
| yarkot | fyi - I'm starting a page (a few pages?) to go with the ceilometer developer documentation (http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/index.html) - to add multi-node development environment; | 20:27 |
| sergio_nubeliu | gordc: but, it is the same for all aggregation methods, you will loose grained precision in bigger granularities only for current period but for complete periods the value will be accurate | 20:27 |
| yarkot | is there someplace I should put this? a "bug" report to announce what I'm doing? What's the right dance-step here? | 20:28 |
| yarkot | gordc ^^ | 20:28 |
| gordc | well, depends on your aggregation. using daily sum/max/min to build annual sum/max/min is fine... but using daily mean to build annual mean isn't... (unless you have exact same amount of points each day) | 20:30 |
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| gordc | yarkot: hmm. i'm not entirely sure. i guess just add it to wherever you want in dev docs. | 20:31 |
| gordc | you probably don't need a bug as i'm assuming no one is working on the same thing as you (it's only a handful of us anyways) | 20:31 |
| yarkot | yeah; I think it will be a couple of commits - so I guess I could just start with a gerrit -1 flow, so people can see what I'm doing. | 20:32 |
| gordc | yarkot: makes sense to me. | 20:34 |
| yarkot | In installing, after "Installing development sandbox" (devstack), and after "installing manually" - I want to add "multi-node development setup" to try to mimic what you did for profiling config more or less (some convention); first by building on the manual install stuff, then using setup w/ ansible (?), then something about subnet setup (and eventually automate some part of that), and some starting example of profiling, performance | 20:35 |
| yarkot | testing; | 20:35 |
| yarkot | I'm guessing it will be (assuming accepted) a couple of commits, sort of at each stage; | 20:36 |
| yarkot | ok; started writing, so today or tomorrow will push some fragment; | 20:36 |
| gordc | sounds good. we can move things around as we need. i think it's fine though. | 20:37 |
| yarkot | gordc - even though in ceilometer docs, I intend to make a "real, current convention" setup, with gnocchi, etc. setup | 20:37 |
| yarkot | does that sound like the right place to start? | 20:38 |
| gordc | yeah, we haven't really figured out where to put the 'integration' docs. | 20:38 |
| gordc | install guides seems like a good place but i don't really know how those docs work. | 20:38 |
| yarkot | yeah, well if ceilometer api will be depricated, and it just a queue mgr, that's a good integration point implicitly, I thought | 20:39 |
| yarkot | for developer installs, that is... | 20:39 |
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| gordc | true. i guess in theory you can run gnocchi without ceilometer and vice versa. but yeah, developer stuff i guess we can assume it's all togetehr. | 20:40 |
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| ruoyu | Hello everyone! I am trying to set up ceilometer in my openstack controller node (Liberty release). In /etc/ceilometer/ceilometer.conf file, there is a section called 'keystone_authtoken'. And I need to spectify 'username' and 'password'. The username is obviously 'ceilometer'. But does anyone know what is the password? | 20:43 |
| ruoyu | This password seems to be the 'service password'. But when I set up ceilometer, I don't think I have specified the password for the service. Does anyone know where could I find this password? | 20:49 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: please let me know when you have the fix to upgrade gnocchi | 21:02 |
| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: yup :) | 21:02 |
| jd__ | almost done | 21:02 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: great, thanks | 21:03 |
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| jd__ | sergio_nubeliu: if everything works fine it would be interesting to have an idea of how much time it took to upgrade | 21:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: only install all storage drivers in py-$index or py-#index-all https://review.openstack.org/383469 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove Python 3.4 support https://review.openstack.org/383470 | 21:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 21:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: only install all storage drivers in py-$index or py-#index-all https://review.openstack.org/383469 | 21:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 21:33 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Remove Python 3.4 support https://review.openstack.org/383470 | 21:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 21:35 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/aodh: Handle case where sample-api is disabled https://review.openstack.org/383041 | 21:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 21:56 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tox: only install all storage drivers in py-$index or py-#index-all https://review.openstack.org/383469 | 22:02 |
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