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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 08:27 |
| sileht | jd__, I think we should propose to deprecated ceilometer-collector at Summit too ? | 08:29 |
| sileht | jd__, since ceilometer-pollsters publish notification instead of collector samples | 08:30 |
| sileht | jd__, the collector doesn't have any sense it just read from ceilometer-notification samples and call the dispatcher 'record_XXXX' without any additional works | 08:31 |
| sileht | it's a really dump thing | 08:32 |
| sileht | it's already possible to remove it by using the publisher 'direct' | 08:32 |
| sileht | the dispatcher interface and the publisher interface are almost identical | 08:32 |
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| jd__ | sileht: well I think some people like it because it allows to be async and batch things, e.g. to Gnocchi | 08:47 |
| sileht | jd__, ceilometer-notification is already async and have batch | 08:49 |
| jd__ | sileht: ah right I forgot about that | 08:52 |
| jd__ | so yeah likely | 08:52 |
| sileht | jd__, it reads messages as fast as possible from notification.*, filter/order them publish them in queue named with the 'pipeline name', then other threads reads in batch pipeline queues and call publishers with list of samples | 08:52 |
| sileht | jd__, I got antoher idea, writting a new oslo.messaging notifier drivers that does the pipeline filtering/ordering on other applications side | 08:57 |
| sileht | :q | 08:57 |
| sileht | jd__, and then no more notification.* for ceilometer | 08:59 |
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| jd__ | sileht: hm might be CPU consuming and slowing down the app ,no? | 09:01 |
| jd__ | where we might want the app to just drop the notification on rabbit and go on | 09:01 |
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| sileht | jd__, the application will still do only that but instead of publishing the message to notification.info, it will post it in ceilometer-pipe-disk_source-X | 09:03 |
| jd__ | sounds easy enough | 09:04 |
| sileht | jd__, the only cons I see, is that app will load some ceilometer tooling/lib to read the ceilometer configuration to publish the notification to the right queue | 09:06 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: Remove Python 3.4 support https://review.openstack.org/383470 | 09:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: carbonara: fix SplitKey with datetime greater than 32bits value https://review.openstack.org/383471 | 09:12 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/gnocchi: tox: only install all storage drivers in py-$index or py-#index-all https://review.openstack.org/383469 | 09:12 |
| openstackgerrit | gongysh proposed openstack/ceilometer: make gnocchi event dispatcher work https://review.openstack.org/377374 | 09:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: tests: fix wrong variable usage in run-tests https://review.openstack.org/382800 | 09:29 |
| openstackgerrit | Julien Danjou proposed openstack/gnocchi: Add a S3 based storage driver https://review.openstack.org/354131 | 09:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/python-ceilometerclient: Set code and details on HTTPException https://review.openstack.org/383002 | 10:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: devstack: allow to configure not backend https://review.openstack.org/382870 | 10:20 |
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| zaneb | jd__: question for y'all: https://ask.openstack.org/en/question/97622/configure-aodh-alarm-for-server-failure/ | 13:19 |
| jd__ | I'm surprised you're using that site zaneb :) | 13:20 |
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| zaneb | jd__: hoping that you'll be more motivated to answer my question if it might help cut down on future IRC questions :) | 13:21 |
| jd__ | :-) | 13:22 |
| zaneb | looks like I have answered 138 questions, but this is the first one I've asked | 13:23 |
| * zaneb hopes he gets a badge for this | 13:23 | |
| jd__ | hehe | 13:25 |
| jd__ | I replied zaneb I hope it'll help | 13:26 |
| zaneb | jd__: not as much as I hoped, but thanks | 13:27 |
| jd__ | :( | 13:27 |
| zaneb | jd__: so could you alarm on no data from ceilometer monitoring something standard like cpu/mem usage? | 13:28 |
| jd__ | zaneb: from no data? hmmm | 13:28 |
| zaneb | like, ok, we have not received any cpu usage data for a while now, maybe the hypervisor is dead, panic | 13:29 |
| jd__ | I think Aodh triggers a "insufficient" state of the alarm | 13:29 |
| jd__ | IIRC | 13:29 |
| jd__ | sileht could confirm because it's smarter than me | 13:29 |
| sileht | I confirm | 13:30 |
| jd__ | see | 13:30 |
| sileht | lol | 13:30 |
| sileht | you can add webhook for the "insufficient" state like alarm and ok state | 13:30 |
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| zaneb | sileht: thanks. does that sound like a sane approach, or would it cause a lot of false positives? | 13:33 |
| sileht | zaneb, "insufficient" is Aodh doesn't enough data to compare with threshold | 13:34 |
| sileht | zaneb, so anything that make the data missing will trigger this state | 13:34 |
| sileht | zaneb, rabbit down, ceilometer down, nova-compute down, ... | 13:34 |
| sileht | zaneb, Most deployement ran this services in HA mode, so if the data is missing you have good change the culprit is your expected source | 13:35 |
| zaneb | excellent | 13:36 |
| sileht | zaneb, the other way you can got 'false positives' is when you set an agressive alarm that's compare the last datapoint every second | 13:37 |
| sileht | zaneb, Aodh will think the data is missing, but is reallity it will arrive soon | 13:37 |
| zaneb | yeah, that makes sense. I think you would need to give it a pretty generous grace period (depending on what you want to trigger off of it) | 13:38 |
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| sileht | exactly that the good way to go | 13:38 |
| zaneb | if anyone can point me at an example, I would be happy to turn it into a Heat template and post it in the heat-templates repo as a guide for other folks :) | 13:39 |
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| sileht | zaneb, an example of heat templates with aodh alarms ? | 13:48 |
| zaneb | sileht: an example of how to configure the alarm to fire when the data stream stops (that I can then turn into a Heat template) | 13:49 |
| gongysh | sileht, hi | 13:49 |
| sileht | zaneb, https://github.com/openstack/ceilometer/blob/master/ceilometer/tests/integration/gabbi/gabbits-live/create_stack.json#L41 | 13:50 |
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| sileht | zaneb, and replace alarm_actions by insufficient_data_actions | 13:50 |
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| zaneb | sileht: awesome, thank you! | 13:50 |
| sileht | zaneb, heat-templates repo have other alarms example also | 13:51 |
| zaneb | yes, I know | 13:51 |
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| sileht | gordc, congrat! a cross project session is organized to answer your TC question 'Re-inventing the TC' | 14:24 |
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| cdent | do not believe false headlines! ;) | 14:29 |
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| gordc | sileht: lol i just asked a question :P | 14:48 |
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| gongysh | sileht, hi | 15:03 |
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| basilAB | I am trying to setup ceilometer with gnocchi and aodh. In ceilometer rabbitmq, I can see metering.sample and notification.sample queue is not getting drained eventhough I am seeing gnocchi-metricd is processing sample. Could someone give some pointers on this? | 16:23 |
| gordc | basilAB: not getting drained or slowly getting drained? | 16:23 |
| gordc | notification.sample queue is the communication between pollsters and notification agent. | 16:24 |
| basilAB | metering.sample is not draining at all. But notification.sample I can see it slowly coming down | 16:24 |
| gordc | metering.sample is the communication between notificaiton agent and collector | 16:24 |
| gordc | if gnocchi is receiving stuff, then it means the collector is grabbing stuff from metering.sample | 16:25 |
| gordc | i don't know what version you have but it's best to enable batching in collector as well as cache | 16:26 |
| basilAB | btw, to give context (In this test, I am running nearly 10,500 instances across nearly 260 hypervisors) | 16:27 |
| basilAB | acknowledge I see on the metering.sample is very low | 16:27 |
| basilAB | We have set the batch to 10 on ceilometer.conf (collector). Not seeing any difference (Still message queue of metering.sample is with all on 'Unacked' and nothing is moving to 'Ready') | 16:39 |
| gordc | basilAB: bump it up. i think it defaults to 100 | 16:42 |
| gordc | i assume you are using new code and not liberty | 16:43 |
| basilAB | we are on mitaka | 16:46 |
| * gordc needs to get diff between newton/mitaka | 16:48 | |
| basilAB | bumping it now .. :) | 16:48 |
| gordc | basilAB: so it doesn't use gnocchi's batch interface in mitaka but does pull off queue in batches | 16:50 |
| gordc | basilAB: it will reduce the load on api but i don't know if that's issue. | 16:51 |
| gordc | how many processes/threads do you have in gnocchi api? | 16:51 |
| gordc | i had 32 processes in my benchmark tests and could get ~1200+ individuals POST/s | 16:52 |
| basilAB | 12 Processes 1 thread (Its under Apache2) | 16:54 |
| basilAB | and I am running 4 gnocchi nodes | 16:54 |
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| gordc | i would start by bumping that up. mitaka doesn't have batch send so it has a POST for every single meter. | 16:56 |
| gordc | not sure how many meters you collect per instance. | 16:56 |
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| gordc | but you need to find some balance between meters/s vs request/s | 16:57 |
| gordc | ... do you mean you have 4 api nodes? | 16:57 |
| basilAB | yes. I have 4 gnocchi api node2 | 16:58 |
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| gordc | oh. i imagine that should handle enough. using mitaka i would suggest adding additional collectors. since both notification agent and collector are backed up, seems you are generating more data than existing services can handle | 17:01 |
| basilAB | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-ansible-os_ceilometer/blob/master/templates/pipeline.yaml.j2 this is my pipeline on computes | 17:01 |
| basilAB | i see | 17:02 |
| gordc | if you used newton, i'd recommend you bypass collector and just push straight from notificaiotn agent | 17:02 |
| gordc | doesn't seem like a high rate. weird it's backed up. | 17:03 |
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| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: make gnocchi event dispatcher work https://review.openstack.org/377374 | 20:52 |
| openstackgerrit | Mehdi Abaakouk (sileht) proposed openstack/ceilometer: devstack: allow to configure not backend https://review.openstack.org/382870 | 20:52 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: Hi, the upgrade from 2.2.1 to 3.0.0 took about 3 hours | 22:40 |
| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: everything seems to be working fine :) | 22:41 |
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| sergio_nubeliu | jd__: thanks for your help! | 22:43 |
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