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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Pydev remote debugging support added.  https://review.openstack.org/4444308:38
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: PEP8. E125, F811, F401, H703  https://review.openstack.org/4830511:19
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update statuses on GA timeout  https://review.openstack.org/4572312:45
dmakogongate is broken again12:45
openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Security groups workflow update  https://review.openstack.org/4570813:04
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openstackgerritRobert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Correct the fake implementation of UsageVerifier  https://review.openstack.org/4954614:03
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update statuses on GA timeout  https://review.openstack.org/4572314:25
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update statuses on GA timeout  https://review.openstack.org/4572314:40
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Security groups workflow update  https://review.openstack.org/4570814:59
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dmakogonrmyers: ping15:31
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robertmyersdmakogon: pong15:46
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dmakogonrobertmyers: gate is broken15:48
imsplitbitrobertmyers: ICMP ECHO15:48
dmakogonreddwarf is dead somehow15:49
ikhudoshynHi, all! plz review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48435/15:49
robertmyersdmakogon: I see, oh well, seems like a re-occuring theme15:49
dmakogonrobertmyers: i've got only bad words for reddwarf15:49
robertmyersha15:50
dmakogoncurrent state of builder is horrible15:50
dmakogonwhat about devstack integration15:50
dmakogon?15:50
robertmyersI'm not working on that myself15:51
robertmyersI'm not sure15:51
hub_capdmakogon: what do you mean "current state of builder is horrible"?15:54
dmakogonhub_cap: every build got failed15:58
dmakogonhub_cap: there is no review which got  two +1 from robots15:59
ikhudoshynhub_cap: hi, could u plz take a look https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48435/ ?16:00
datsun180ball i had to do is change exactly nothing and rerun the tests repeatedly and bam! all my tests passed in real-mode16:01
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datsun180bmaybe it's just that the changes had to absorb enough energy from my penance stare a la ghost rider16:02
dmakogondatsun180b: what are you talking about ?16:02
hub_capoh the jenkins builder16:02
hub_capya looks like instance creates are failing16:02
datsun180bi had to confirm that i didn't have a huge hole in the hull of my changes since they didn't pass on jenkins16:03
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datsun180bturns out i'm clean, it's just the devstack coord i think16:03
datsun180bstill have to work on my unit tests, that's a different beast16:03
dmakogonhub_cap: any idea why ?16:03
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* hub_cap shrugs16:07
hub_capill pull down a fresh copy16:07
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dmakogonhub_cap: i hope it would go away, 'cuz its a bit annoying16:11
hub_caphah well if theres a bug we will have to fix it ;)16:12
dmakogonyes16:16
dmakogondefinitely16:16
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SnowDusthub_cap : we tried to make the extentions more generic16:35
SnowDustcan share few changes we did as draft POC16:36
hub_capya? thats awesome16:37
SnowDust# Path to the extensions16:37
SnowDustapi_extensions_path = trove/extensions/routes16:37
hub_capweve had blueprints on it for a while16:37
SnowDustchanged this to hold list of paths16:37
SnowDustand made the same change as ListOpt in cfg.py16:38
SnowDustand then loaded all of them in trove/common/extentions.py16:38
SnowDustthis implementation makes .. pluggable extentions16:38
SnowDustas we didnt run tests :) could not commit the code .. but will do them by tomorrow16:39
SnowDustwhat say ?16:39
SnowDustlet me find the blueprint ... :-)16:39
hub_capSnowDust: thats a good start, but so you know, id like to "fix" extensions so they are like extensions in nova, cinder....16:47
SnowDustwe will look at them too .. if we get time :)16:47
SnowDustbut for now .. that brings pluggable extentions ..16:48
hub_capsure that works for me16:48
SnowDusthmm .. i will try to get that code commited  by your midnight ..16:48
hub_caphehe thx SnowDust!16:51
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openstackgerritJoe Cruz proposed a change to openstack/trove: [WIP] Add Backup/Restore Checksum Validation  https://review.openstack.org/4959117:00
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openstackgerritJoe Cruz proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add Backup/Restore Checksum Validation  https://review.openstack.org/4959117:03
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pdmarshub_cap: https://github.com/stackforge/openvz-nova-driver/pull/117:38
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hub_cappdmars: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:stackforge/openvz-nova-driver,n,z17:45
pdmarsof course17:45
hub_cap:)17:46
hub_cappdmars: plz close the PR in github17:47
pdmarsonly because you said please17:48
hub_capi technically said pulzee17:50
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imsplitbitoops sorry pdmars18:45
imsplitbitI totally forgot that was all gerrit'd up18:45
imsplitbit:)18:45
pdmarsnp18:46
openstackgerritRobert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding location attribute to Fake Backup object.  https://review.openstack.org/4960118:46
hub_cappdmars: hey18:47
hub_caphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/49600/1/nova/virt/openvz/driver.py18:47
hub_capdo we need to change a test to make sure we use this context ?18:47
pdmarsdo we need to use it?18:47
hub_capis it just cuz destory calls were borking out via the magic of rpc?18:48
pdmarsyeah, now nova is calling self.driver.destroy and passing context=context18:48
hub_capkk18:50
hub_capok approved pdmars18:50
pdmarshooray18:51
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esmutedmakogon: Hi18:59
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ikhudosh_hub_cap: around?19:12
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hub_capikhudosh_: somewhat19:15
hub_capin a meeting19:15
hub_capbut i can respond, slowly :)19:15
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ikhudosh_ok) no hurry at all. Just wanted to ask is there any chance you could look thru my stuff till the weekend?19:17
hub_capikhudosh_ yes most definitely19:28
hub_captomorrow will be big review day for me19:28
hub_capand this aftn19:28
hub_capi think i need to give up coding lol19:28
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ikhudosh_i'll b waiting)19:29
ikhudosh_kinda like Linus19:29
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datsun180bbut torvalds has kernel commits that are only four hours old right now19:37
datsun180bi wouldn't say he's stopped19:37
datsun180bwell those appear to be merges, so maybe your comparison is closer than i thought19:37
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove-integration: blueprint redis-base-image  https://review.openstack.org/4928419:38
hub_caplinus merges19:40
hub_caphe does not code review everything anymore19:40
hub_caphe has people manage subsystems19:40
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hub_caphttp://kernelnewbies.org/Documentation/Subsystems19:41
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datsun180bi wish i had people19:50
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hub_capu do19:52
hub_capthey are in your head datsun180b19:52
openstackgerritAuston McReynolds proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove duplicate trove_auth_url property from trove-taskmanager.conf.sample  https://review.openstack.org/4960919:57
dmakogon_ipodyogesh: ping20:02
openstackgerritAuston McReynolds proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove Duplicate trove_auth_url Property  https://review.openstack.org/4960920:02
yogeshhello20:02
dmakogon_ipodhi20:02
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yogeshdmakogon: whassup20:02
dmakogon_ipodlet's talk about templates20:02
yogeshHEAT templates?20:03
dmakogon_ipodнуы20:03
dmakogon_ipodyes20:03
yogeshyup...20:03
yogeshsure...20:03
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dmakogon_ipodi've made a BP20:04
yogeshi am in the process of framing a GIST20:04
dmakogon_ipodhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/provide-custom-heat-templates-for-each-service-in-trove20:04
dmakogon_ipodcould we disscus20:04
dmakogon_ipodit20:04
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yogeshi want to go through it before we discuss :-)20:05
dmakogon_ipodfirst, let's come to suggestion20:05
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yogeshi want to go through it first20:05
dmakogon_ipodwhat do we mean under 'template generation' ?20:05
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dmakogon_ipodyogesh: ping me when you finish20:08
yogeshsure...20:09
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dmakogon_ipodyogesh ?20:24
yogeshyup20:24
yogeshdmakogon: i got into a meeting and have to step into another one...can i ping u in an hour or so...20:25
yogeshi am like desperate to discuss right now but need to get through this meeting real quick20:26
yogesh:-)20:26
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dmakogon_ipodyogesh: just give me few comments about my BP)))20:30
yogeshabsolutely...i have so many things running in my mind when i read it...20:30
yogeshwill write it out and discuss20:30
dmakogon_ipodyogesh: we could go to ML20:33
yogeshyup sure20:34
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esmuteHi dmakogon_ipod21:06
SnowDustdmakogon_ipod: thanks for the blueprint21:08
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SnowDustbut i have suggestions too :)21:09
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dmakogon_ipodyou are welcome21:10
dmakogon_ipodit is opened to to discuss21:10
yogeshcan we discuss now?21:11
dmakogon_ipodyes21:12
dmakogon_ipodwhy not21:12
yogeshso, externalizing is accepted....21:12
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yogeshwe need more abstraction around mapping with the templates if a service has more than one template as options21:12
SnowDustyeah ... i suggest simple dictionary based mapping ..21:13
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yogeshsnowdust: that is an implementation level detail, let us discuss the design first :-)21:13
SnowDustyeah ...21:14
yogeshhow do the consumer supply through the api that which template instance-group is required to be created...21:14
dmakogon_ipodas i can see we want more than one template per service in case of single instance or cluster21:14
yogeshyes...21:15
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dmakogon_ipodbut single template per service for single instance and onle one21:15
yogeshi would still call it as instance-group and not cluster because there may be additional steps involved in spinning the instances into a cluster21:15
yogeshthe spinning logic can very well be within the template...21:16
dmakogon_ipodyogesh: ok, we could call it like that21:16
SnowDust{ service_name : [ template_action1, template_action2, template_action3]}21:16
yogeshand then we will get to the clustering taxonomy but till it gets decided.. :-)21:16
dmakogon_ipodSnowDust: this is not what we really wont21:16
yogeshsnowdust: implementation level again.... :-)  :-)21:16
SnowDusttemplate_action1 gets picked up  as file .. from  template/service_type/ dir ..21:17
SnowDustand beyond this .. its the detail u know HEAT :-)21:17
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SnowDusti kept it simple i think :)21:17
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SnowDustwhat else was in gist .. its good !21:17
yogeshwe are talking about the semantics of the api21:17
dmakogon_ipodmain idea that different database versions needs different/additional packages that would not come with basic yum/apt install21:18
yogeshcreateinstance can always be considered as an instance-group creating api21:18
dmakogon_ipodguys, let21:18
yogeshthe flavor passed in to the api can be the flavor of the cluster and not the instance21:18
dmakogon_ipodlet's stay focused21:18
dmakogon_ipodyogesh +121:18
SnowDustyogesh : understood !21:19
SnowDustrightly pointed21:19
yogeshthe flavor of the cluster then maps to the template...21:19
yogeshthis brings a change to the semantics of the creteinstance api through21:19
yogeshfrom flavor perspective...the flavors won't map to the nova flavors anymore...21:19
dmakogon_ipodguys, let's go back to the templates21:20
yogeshthere will be the cluster-flavors concept required to be introduced which further maps to the nova flavors21:20
dmakogon_ipod!!!!21:20
openstackdmakogon_ipod: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command.21:20
dmakogon_ipod!21:21
dmakogon_ipodso, do we agree to have one template and extension for it as custom userdata ?21:21
yogeshdmakogon: from template perspective, multiple templates can be externalized per service for the different cluster-flavors21:21
dmakogon_ipodyogesh, maybe, but can we make it general ?21:22
yogeshcustom user data may again be a template in case of nested templates21:23
dmakogon_ipodwhat the critical difference between passing flavor A and flavor B ?21:23
yogeshthe scale of the cluster....can be an option...21:23
yogeshsmall, medium, large just for an example...21:24
dmakogon_ipodscale = stack updated21:24
yogeshsure21:24
dmakogon_ipodit means that this is not affect prov. template21:25
dmakogon_ipodas i can see we are not going to store trove-specific flavors for clusters21:25
dmakogon_ipodthey are still nova-flavors21:25
yogeshyes...21:26
yogeshwhile creating the cluster/instance-group abstraction within db...21:26
dmakogon_ipodwhy abstraction ?21:26
yogeshwe may store the cluster/instance-group flavors as well21:26
dmakogon_ipodno21:26
yogeshso, do u think that although we are creating groups of instances...21:27
dmakogon_ipodfor what puprose ?21:27
dmakogon_ipodpurpose ?21:27
yogeshtheey still will exist as independent instances in trove21:27
yogeshwithout any aggregation...21:27
yogeshthe purpose is to identify them as related...21:27
yogeshcoz they got created as part of a single instance-group21:28
dmakogon_ipodso, let's go back to templates and discuss them in terms that we would have only nova-flavors21:28
yogeshsure...21:29
yogeshthe templates will surely have all nova flavors...21:29
dmakogon_ipodso, i'm standing on keeping single template for service with fixed version21:30
yogeshso, within the pipeline it gets decided somewhere that a particular template will be used..21:30
dmakogon_ipodif service would come with another version, probably it woulbe another (or same template)21:31
yogeshwe can move on...21:31
dmakogon_ipodtake a look https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/provide-custom-heat-templates-for-each-service-in-trove21:31
dmakogon_ipodi describe it21:31
dmakogon_ipodtwo mechanisms21:31
dmakogon_ipodthrough heat module load or file load21:32
yogeshthere is one existing mechanism and the one you are proposing21:32
dmakogon_ipodit Trove ?21:32
dmakogon_ipod*in ?21:32
yogeshin the GIST...21:32
dmakogon_ipodnow trove loads only one existing template, no pluggability21:33
yogeshmodule load vs file load...21:33
dmakogon_ipodfile is more comlicated21:33
yogeshi think module load will help us on the nested templates as well21:34
yogeshwith anyways any additional logic that helps21:34
dmakogon_ipodfirst step is to freeze parameters for template21:34
yogeshi agree21:35
dmakogon_ipodafter dynamic template loading we could create new mechanism for specifying custom set of parameters for template21:35
dmakogon_ipodand this one is rather comlicated21:36
yogeshyes21:36
yogeshthinking...21:36
dmakogon_ipodshould we validate parameter with came from somewhere and used in template ?21:36
yogeshwhy shouldn't we take the complete template or its reference as the parameter..21:37
yogeshplz hold on21:37
yogeshapologies21:37
dmakogon_ipodparameter where ?21:37
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yogeshi mean, if we go back a bit....again into the flavoring part21:38
dmakogon_ipodyou are talking about passing template by customer ?21:39
yogeshno, passign flavor by the customer...21:39
yogeshand flavor maps to a template..21:39
hub_capok do i even want to get in on this conversation? lol21:39
hub_capi just got back and its a HUGE conversation21:39
yogeshhub_cap: yeah we writing aloud... :-)21:40
hub_capok ill let you guys finish21:40
hub_capthen summarize on a etherpad or blueprint21:40
yogeshi am in the process of writing it....dmakogon gave a good head start...21:41
dmakogon_ipodhub_cap: short agenda: template per service(single instance/node group), loading methods21:41
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dmakogon_ipodyogesh: post your thoughts at whiteboard of my BP21:41
yogeshyeah....i will...21:41
yogeshcan we discuss it tomorrow...i'll ping21:41
yogeshi need to get into another meeting...21:42
dmakogon_ipodat what time ?21:42
dmakogon_ipodhub_cap: here ?21:42
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yogeshhow about 1:00 PT, i don't know ur location...21:42
yogesh1:00 PM PT...21:42
dmakogon_ipodwhat is it in UTC ?21:42
hub_capUTC-821:43
dmakogon_ipodmy time is UTC +321:43
hub_cap2000 dmakogon_ipod21:43
hub_capits -1:43 from right now21:43
hub_capprobably quite close to when yall started talking today21:43
dmakogon_ipodmy time is 0.4321:43
yogeshi am open for doing it earlier...21:43
SnowDustmine is 3:1321:43
hub_capyou guys are CRAZY!!! ;)21:44
yogeshgood morning snowdust...21:44
dmakogon_ipodlol21:44
SnowDustmorning !21:44
dmakogon_ipodhub_cap: we are agreed with loading modules21:44
yogeshwe should do it a bit earlier..21:44
dmakogon_ipodnot *.yaml21:44
yogesh.but the constituents of module, we'll discuss more21:44
SnowDust*.yaml is admin friendly21:44
SnowDustalways think about who use the s/w21:45
SnowDustnot who wrote it :-)21:45
yogeshthanks for the wow...21:45
dmakogon_ipodyogesh: it is easy21:45
dmakogon_ipodwe could keep it like it is21:46
yogesh"module" u mean...21:46
dmakogon_ipodclass Template: template property, getter for template21:46
dmakogon_ipodyes21:46
yogesh+121:46
dmakogon_ipodand we could add parameters setter/getter21:46
dmakogon_ipodand it would be full21:47
dmakogon_ipodi think so21:47
yogeshso, please allow me to write something in detail and we can discuss....21:47
dmakogon_ipodcorrect me if i'm wrong21:47
dmakogon_ipodyogesh: a lot of thoughtsm yeah ?)))21:47
dmakogon_ipodthoughts21:47
yogeshright...21:47
yogeshhow about 11:00 AM PDT, couple hours earlier...good for u guys?21:48
SnowDustthanks .. so YAML lives !21:49
dmakogon_ipodtranslate it to my time)))21:49
yogeshnot yaml...21:49
dmakogon_ipod+121:49
dmakogon_ipodhttp://www.worldtimebuddy.com/pst-to-gmt-converter21:50
dmakogon_ipodcool21:50
dmakogon_ipodeasy for me))21:50
dmakogon_ipodok i agreed with time21:50
dmakogon_ipodwhat the agenda for tomorrow ?21:50
yogeshlets talk....and then we can discuss the consolidated for a wider review and hub_cap's guidance...21:51
hub_cape+121:51
hub_cap+1 lol21:51
yogesh:-)21:51
SnowDuststill think .. YAML lives ...21:51
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yogeshsnowdust: think design first...you didn't ask what WOW was?21:52
SnowDusti thought about the KISS .. and it was not there in ur talk !21:52
SnowDust;)21:53
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yogeshyeah....simple is better till complete...21:53
yogeshonly till it is complete... :-)21:53
yogeshthanks...guys...21:54
SnowDusti liked the gist .. !21:54
yogeshlets meet tomorrow...21:54
yogeshme too21:54
SnowDustno .. issues with it ..21:54
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hub_capSlickNik: vipul: around?21:56
hub_caphorray i can finally start coding for the day!!!!!!21:59
SlickNikIn a meeting. Is it something quick?21:59
hub_capSlickNik: not really21:59
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hub_caplets just chat after SlickNik22:00
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hub_capmetral: and i have found the reason the gate is failing23:48
hub_capmetral: describe plz23:48
metralthis commit is the reason: https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/commit/96ba6ec1bf0b7cc54f9968e4cc3aa80b8f2c368e23:48
hub_capwe arent sure what/how to fix yet but devstack borked us23:49
metralagreed23:49
metralchecking out previous commit & re-stacking & setting up trove-integration worked flawlessly23:49
hub_capyea boiiiii23:50
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