Wednesday, 2013-10-02

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openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix quota issue where usages can drop to negative value  https://review.openstack.org/4930104:04
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: fixing symlink attack bug present in the application.  https://review.openstack.org/4927604:30
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openstackgerritDebasish Chowdhury proposed a change to openstack/trove: Unittest Case for get_user  https://review.openstack.org/4820105:53
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openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed a change to openstack/trove: Extract generic part of GA code from MySQL specific modules  https://review.openstack.org/4843508:01
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Update statuses on GA timeout  https://review.openstack.org/4572310:02
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dmakogonanybody home ?11:38
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openstackgerritDenis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Allow early host % on validate  https://review.openstack.org/4754312:17
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hub_capdmakogon: we are now15:42
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zigo_hub_cap: Where may I find a howto to test my Trove packages?16:26
hub_capsec16:26
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hub_capthis should be kinda what u need zigo_ http://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/manual_install.html16:27
hub_capfeel free to ask questions16:27
zigo_Cheers!16:28
zigo_hub_cap: Is swift *required*?16:28
hub_capnope16:28
hub_capjust glance for the image16:29
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hub_capzigo_: all you should need to do is to put a image in glance, with the name mysql16:30
hub_capand then you can prov an instance16:30
zigo_hub_cap: I don't get it, what image?16:30
hub_capwell u can use a cloud uec image16:31
hub_capok question16:31
hub_capdefine "test" trove package16:31
hub_capdo you mean spin up an environment and make curl calls to it?16:31
zigo_Run it, make sure it works.16:31
hub_capor just see if it starts?16:31
hub_capin order to create a database instance, you need an image uploaded to glance16:31
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hub_capu can do things like list versions, to see if its online and running w/o it talking to external things like nova / glance16:32
ikhudoshyn_hub_cap: hi, take a look plz https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48435/, I added tests16:32
hub_capkk ikhudoshyn_16:32
zigo_Well, I'd like to do a little bit more than this...16:33
ikhudoshyn_thanks16:33
zigo_Like create a db, etc.16:33
hub_capok zigo_ then u should just do this part (let me see if the doc allows linking in the middle)16:34
hub_caphttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/manual_install.html#prepare-image16:35
hub_capsweet it does allow linking within the doc16:35
zigo_I do have a Debian image made with my openstack-debian-images package ! :) (available in wheezy-backports and sid)16:35
hub_capPERFECT16:35
hub_capjust upload that to your local glance16:36
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hub_capu just have to make sure the glance user has access from keystone16:36
hub_caphttp://docs.openstack.org/developer/trove/dev/manual_install.html#prepare-openstack16:36
hub_capu can probably use the demo user everywhere (not sure what the .deb setup looks like)16:36
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zigo_Glance does have access to Keystone, no pb.16:39
zigo_FYI, in Debian, you just "apt-get install glance", answer a few questions, and everything "just works" (tm)16:39
zigo_Keystone already has an "admin" tenant, also made automatically by the package.16:40
zigo_It also does the endpoints.16:40
zigo_I probably should create the endpoints for trove automatically too, no?16:41
zigo_--publicurl 'http://localhost:8779/v1.0/$(tenant_id)s' --adminurl 'http://localhost:8779/v1.0/$(tenant_id)s' --internalurl 'http://localhost:8779/v1.0/$(tenant_id)s' <--- Is this the standard endpoints for Trove?16:41
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zigo_On other packages, I have %, not $, is this the same?16:46
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hub_capzigo_: hmmm i thought it was not.. but if it works for the other pkgs lets go with "yes its the same :P"16:53
hub_capalso zigo_ i think the admin tenant is fine for all this testing16:53
* zigo_ is fixing stuff and will test further.16:54
hub_cap:D16:55
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zigo_hub_cap: Does trove needs root access to MySQL?16:59
zigo_The problem being that dbconfig-common doesn't support that. :(16:59
hub_capzigo_: im assuming your talking about MySQL on the instance that a trove user would create?17:00
zigo_hub_cap: Well, in trove.conf, there's a sql_connection17:00
hub_capif thats the case, we create a user, os-admin, but we assume the stock MySQL we install does allow for logging in as root w/o pass when we are configuring17:00
hub_capOHHHHHHHH17:00
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hub_capim sorry zigo_ wrong MySQL17:00
hub_capit gets confusing17:00
zigo_That is normally setup automatically by dbconfig-common for other packages.17:01
hub_capit only needs access to its db, trove17:01
zigo_Though, does it need root for that db ?17:01
zigo_Oh ok.17:01
zigo_So I'll write the dbconfig-common thing for it too! :)17:01
hub_capit just needs to be able to run the migrations like other projects, and have a user who owns that db (trove)17:01
zigo_FYI, in Debian, that part is also handled by debconf (if you like that, otherwise you can always use DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive, or dpkg-reconfigure debconf)17:01
hub_capsweet zigo_17:02
hub_capwe use noninteractive in our installation (of an instance, that is)17:02
zigo_Yeah, that's fine too! :)17:02
hub_capnot the metadata database (thats what we call the trove API db)17:02
zigo_You could also use preseeding...17:02
zigo_If possible in next versions, please don't do multiple # sql_connection17:02
zigo_Rather write:17:02
zigo_# for example: sql_connection17:02
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zigo_This way, I can easily make the difference between something that is a commented directive, or an example, when parsing the config file.17:03
hub_capoh u mean in the config files?17:03
zigo_Do you know what I'm saying? :)17:03
hub_capwe can fix that17:03
hub_capyes we have17:03
hub_cap#sql_connection = ...17:03
hub_capand17:03
hub_capsql_connect = ...17:03
hub_capright?17:03
zigo_Yup.17:03
zigo_That's annoying for my parser.17:03
zigo_I usually end up patching default config files... :/17:03
amcrncp16net: You mentioned you had a test-case for one of the scenarios (for Configuration Groups), is there a public review of the WIP thus far. I didn't see it in review.openstack.org, I just want to make sure I'm not missing it :)17:04
zigo_Anyway, I'll patch it for the moment.17:04
haomaiwanghub_cap: Hi, how about nosql support now? Now the GA code changes are frequent. I really want to startup a new DB type works17:05
hub_caphaomaiwang: i would love for you to start impl'ing leveldb17:05
hub_capi believe it was what yo uwere wanting to impl, right?17:06
hub_capor any other nosql haomaiwang17:06
haomaiwanghub_cap: but I'm confusing by the startup codes now17:06
hub_capstartup codes?17:06
haomaiwangno relevant codes can be reference17:06
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hub_capOh17:07
hub_capwell haomaiwang, there is work to add redis now too17:07
hub_caphttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/49284/17:07
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hub_capso you might be able to follow along with that, to see how to create a guest impl for leveldb17:07
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haomaiwanghub_cap: I mean GA codes... Now I can find many changes to GA interfaces.17:08
redthruxhub_cap:17:08
redthruxsaw you pinged17:08
dmakogon_ipodhaomaiwang: please coordinate work with me, ikhudoshyn, ashestakov17:09
haomaiwangdmakogon_ipod: Yes, I would like to see17:09
dmakogon_ipodhaomaiwang: first take a look at review of ashestakov17:09
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dmakogon_ipodamcrn: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/47543/17:10
hub_capredthrux: u gonna just keep doing that to me? i cant remember why17:10
hub_capi need u around WHEN IM AROUND!!!17:10
hub_capotherwise its just not relevant17:10
hub_cap;) ;)17:10
hub_caphaomaiwang: yes, i think in the next few days the GA updates will land and it will make the next impl easier to do17:11
hub_capits getting much cleaner, MUCH cleaner17:11
haomaiwangI really want to see a example which can make me not away from others implementation. And I heard a mongodb implementation have been existing.17:11
haomaiwanghub_cap: yes, it's my wants17:11
redthruxyeah - it was 5pm yesterday -something about cleanup and amcrn's work17:11
redthrux:D17:12
amcrndon't go dragging me into this ;)17:13
hub_caplulz17:13
dmakogon_ipodamcrn: enough tests ?17:13
* hub_cap doesnt know, redthrux... dont worry about it17:13
hub_caphaomaiwang: yes if you sit tight for another week i think we will see another GA impl start to emerge17:14
haomaiwanghub_cap: really nice!17:14
amcrndmakogon_ipod: +1'd, looks good, nice work :)17:14
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redthruxhaha17:15
redthruxi'd like to put an item on the  meeting agenda hub_cap - "improve hub_cap memory retention"17:15
hub_capredthrux: buy me new ram17:16
amcrnhub_cap wants to become webscale, mongo is webscale17:19
redthruxthere we go17:19
cp16netamcrn: i have not made a review for this yet because its not in a stable state yet but you can see the code in my branches https://github.com/cp16net/trove/commit/1492d809afcedd3e1773326042bbf2d26b9f0df4#diff-2417:21
hub_capamcrn: does /dev/null support sharding?17:22
amcrnif sharding is webscale, then yes17:22
amcrn;)17:22
amcrnain't no one got time for fsync17:23
amcrncp16net: awesome, thanks!17:23
hub_capIf /dev/null is fast in web scale I will use it. Is it web scale?17:23
hub_capgod i love that freaking vid17:23
cp16netyeah its great17:23
amcrncp16net: this is looking super clean, nice work man17:24
cp16netamcrn: thanks its been a WIP for about a year...17:25
amcrnpop some bubbly when it's done17:25
cp16netothers have worked on it and i'm going to finish it up and take it to the finish line17:25
cp16netoh yeah i will :-P17:25
cp16netmaybe even pop one early :-P17:25
amcrnI've only got one more question, but I'll post it to the ML for the sake of continuing the discussion in a threaded mode17:26
cp16netsounds good17:26
cp16netthanks for your q's they were great.17:26
amcrnnp17:26
cp16netsome of the answers i need to update the BP to reflect still17:26
hub_capcp16net: and get it in before you have to deal w/ service-type/version ;)17:26
cp16netoh i know...17:26
* cp16net hopes i have 2-3 weeks before that happens17:26
cp16netbecause i know once its up it wont be merged very quicky...17:27
hub_capyup17:27
hub_capand service type/version is already up as a WIP17:27
cp16netoh no...17:27
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cp16netwell this weekend i will be dancing like a monkey at ACL17:28
zigo_hub_cap: What's the way to do db_sync with trove? I see in your doc: trove-manage --config-file=/etc/trove/trove.conf , I don't get what the "db_wipe trove_test.sqlite mysql fake" is for, can you explain?17:29
dmakogon_ipodcp16net: access controll list, why does you hate it so much ?)))17:29
cp16netdmakogon_ipod: hate it? i never said that17:30
hub_capdont look @ that zigo_ ;)17:30
hub_capi think its just db_sync, let me see17:30
dmakogon_ipodcp16net: your msg looks like you sad that you are dancing on its bones17:31
zigo_Ok.17:31
hub_capyes its trove-manage --config.... db_sync17:31
cp16netoh... ACL == "Austin City Limits"17:31
zigo_Seems working, even without the --config ! :)17:31
cp16netdmakogon_ipod: http://www.aclfestival.com/17:31
hub_capzigo_: yes it uses default config locations, so if its in /etc/trove17:31
hub_capthen its good to go17:31
* hub_cap is jealous cp16net17:32
zigo_Though it's quite ugly with all the debug infos... :)17:32
hub_capI HOPE IT RAINS cp16net jk17:32
* zigo_ will patch that too.17:32
dmakogon_ipodcp16net: wow, very nice17:32
cp16neti think it might on saturday17:32
hub_capzigo_: yes we are working on standardizing w/ the rest of the openstack libraries... its a long process ;)17:32
hub_capcp16net: oh sux17:32
cp16netbut its going to be AMAZING <10017:32
cp16net:-P17:32
dmakogon_ipodi heard Austing hosting a lot of festivals17:32
hub_capyer so smart for wknd 117:32
cp16nethell yea17:33
hub_capdmakogon_ipod: austin is a great city17:33
dmakogon_ipodhub_cap: i heard17:33
* zigo_ got trove-api running! :)17:33
dmakogon_ipodhub_cap: and read17:33
cp16nethttp://www.weather.com/weather/weekend/Austin+TX+78729:4:US17:33
hub_capzigo_: w00t!17:33
cp16neta high of 9017:33
hub_capd00000d cp16net17:33
cp16netwtf? thats crazy!17:33
hub_capsat/sun are gonna be sick17:34
cp16netyeah its going to be fun17:34
cp16netit rained this past weekend so it shouldnt rain at all this weekend...17:35
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hub_capgod muse... again17:36
cp16netnot looking forward to that...17:36
hub_capfrack dude17:36
hub_capdepeche and the cure17:36
cp16netdepeche mode at the same time as muse... i know where i will be17:37
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hub_capya its total 80s wk17:38
hub_caprichie will be cool too. i love how they pull a random old rocker out of their ass each yr17:38
zigo_[filter:tokenauth] instead of [filter:authtoken] <--- Fun! :)17:39
hub_capzigo_: plz file bugs for these17:39
zigo_(I don't mind that much, just saying...)17:39
hub_capcuz thats all a part of standardizing17:39
zigo_Ok.17:39
hub_capno i _want_ it to be easy for install/pkging17:39
hub_capi want them to ALL be the same17:39
hub_caprather than 10 services use X, we use Y... thats just dumb17:40
hub_capzigo_: im rewriting the client, hopefully u wont have to do much updating to the pkg17:40
cp16nethub_cap: +117:40
zigo_Updating is usally just a few commands, so that's fine.17:41
hub_capsweet17:41
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hub_capcp16net: do u know, is there a doc w/ all the existing cli commands on it?17:41
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hub_capid like to make sure im not blatantly missing anything17:41
cp16netfor cli i am not sure17:41
cp16neti dont think we ever had a real guide on the cli17:42
cp16netjust type something and screw up and it tells you what you screwed up on was the docs i know about :-P17:42
hub_capjcru: around, emacs Q for u17:42
cp16nethe's not at his desk17:43
cp16netatm17:43
cp16netlunch time17:43
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hub_capkkthx cp16net17:43
cp16nethub_cap: imsplitbit looks like hes here17:43
cp16nethub_cap: btw i dont really understand the difference between actualize and realize17:44
cp16netwhat does that techinally mean?17:45
hub_capi dunno amcrn is smart, he uses big words17:45
hub_capi just copied his answers17:45
cp16netand you answered it17:45
cp16netlol17:45
cp16netamcrn: can you explain the diff between acutalize and realize values you were expecting in the configs17:46
hub_caphe was using them as synonyms17:46
hub_capi thought17:46
cp16netthats the reason i didnt say either one and just described what it was doing17:46
cp16netlol17:46
cp16neti think he said or17:46
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* cp16net confused17:47
cp16netnot sure what we were agreeing to wrt enumerating the configs17:48
cp16netbecause through the api we dont have a way of showing what the "defaults" are17:48
hub_capi agreed to nothing17:49
cp16netnever17:49
* hub_cap logs in to the ML server and deletes his msg17:49
cp16netlol17:49
hub_cap;)17:49
cp16netbecause this is jsut the overrides then17:49
hub_capok i can tell its lunch time17:49
hub_capcuz i dont have 6 private conversations going anymore, its just this channel17:50
hub_capSWEET17:50
cp16netheh17:50
cp16netthats suppose to be on the ML17:50
cp16netML or DIE!17:50
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cp16neti think you just killed yourself17:50
openstackgerritIllia Khudoshyn proposed a change to openstack/trove: Extract generic part of GA code from MySQL specific modules  https://review.openstack.org/4843517:50
hub_capLOL cp16net17:52
hub_capmy internet seems to have died17:53
hub_capso somethign did17:53
cp16neti'm going to die a little.17:53
hub_capugh dude i just lost my remote connection17:53
hub_capits ok tho17:53
hub_capim all tmux'd up17:53
cp16netyeah i like tmux17:53
hub_capive stopped dev'ing locally17:54
hub_capi have a cloud machine that i keep building clones of when i need to do things17:54
cp16netcool17:54
hub_capits got all my git review stuff set up, a gh ssh key, and my homedir installed17:54
hub_capwanna see a hack?17:55
hub_caphttps://github.com/hub-cap/dotfiles/blob/master/link_files.sh17:55
hub_capit unlinks / relinks all the files in my dotfiles folder to my homedir17:55
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hub_capso when i get on a new machine thats _not_ a clone, i install this, and just ./link_files.sh17:56
hub_capand boom i have my dev env set up17:56
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zigo_hub_cap: I guess you're a Ubuntu user, right?18:03
amcrnoops, sorry cp16net, was in the midst of crafting that email reply18:03
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zigo_deb http://ubuntu-havana.pkgs.enovance.com/debian precise-havana-backports main <--- You can try this... :)18:04
amcrnI have a really bad habit of being addicted to slashing synonyms, so actualized == realized in the context of that email18:04
amcrnwhere I meant that realized/actualized == the list of all properties, whether they be explicit overrides or implicitly inherited.18:05
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cp16netoh ok18:06
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cp16netthen that was not the case and my answer should reflect that on that q18:07
amcrnSimplified Example: Say MySQL only supported 2 cnf options, 'a' and 'b'. If 'a' defaults to True and 'b' to False, if the provider/user overrides 'b' to True, I'm imagining that a GET on the configuration-group/:id will return both 'a' and 'b', even though 'a' wasn't explicitly provided18:07
zigo_When I start trove-taskmanager, I have: TRACE root ImportError: No module named importlib18:07
zigo_What python module am I missing?18:08
zigo_hub_cap: ^18:08
amcrnbecause forcing the user/provider to ponder what the default for the service-type and version is not very user friendly18:08
amcrnor alternatively, a GET on the configuration/:id only returns overrides, but a GET on the default configuration enumerates all defaults (implicit or explicit)18:09
amcrnin short, as long as the user/provider can determine the holistic list of all properties for a service-type via the API, that's what I'm aiming for :)18:10
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amcrnrather, holistic list of all properties and realized values18:10
amcrnI did a fairly poor job of explaining that, my bad cp16net18:11
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hub_capzigo_: let me see18:13
hub_capzigo_: i use ubuntu cloud images for openstack dev. but ill be installing debian testing when i get my new x1 carbon18:14
hub_capzigo_: what version of python are you using?18:14
hub_capimportlib is in py27 stdlib i think18:14
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zigo_hub_cap: I have packages for both Ubuntu and Debian on my repositories.18:16
zigo_hub_cap: Ubuntu is using Python 2.7, and Debian is using 2.6.18:16
hub_capok thats the issue zigo_18:16
zigo_hub_cap: You'd have to be compatible with both ...18:16
zigo_Ok.18:16
hub_cap2.6 you need to install importlib18:16
zigo_:(18:16
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hub_caplet me see if its in the global-requriements18:17
zigo_Got you.18:17
hub_caphm its not18:17
zigo_Don't add it then.18:17
hub_capok18:17
zigo_I'll add it in my debian/control, that's enough.18:17
hub_capimportlib is in 27, but its a backported addtl lib in 2618:17
hub_capsweet18:17
zigo_Adding it might be annoying.18:17
hub_capi guess we re the only project using it?18:18
zigo_Yeah! Working! :)18:18
hub_capw00t!18:18
zigo_Others use Stevedore, I believe. But Stevedore is annoying, it hides which lib you want to import when it fails.18:18
hub_capoh yes, its "magic" zigo_18:18
hub_capi hate magic18:19
hub_capbut we will eventually use stevedore /me harps on standardizing w/ the rest of OpenStack ;)18:19
zigo_hub_cap: It'd be very nice if trove-taskmanager could also use /etc/trove/trove.conf for the db config, because it's in 2 places, which is annoying.18:19
zigo_Same for RabbitMQ connection.18:19
hub_capsure.. it can be the same18:20
hub_capoh and zigo_ thank you thank you for working on this18:21
zigo_:)18:21
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jcruhub_cap: I'm back18:24
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hub_capTOOOOOO late ;)18:27
hub_capdo u use any killring extras jcru?18:27
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hub_caplike additional things to make viewing / using killring easier?18:28
jcruhub_cap: nah18:28
jcruI end up cycling through it18:28
hub_capjust C-y M-y M-y M-y....18:29
hub_cap?18:29
jcruyep18:29
cp16netgross18:29
hub_capi made the mistake of using my mouse and laptop to copy/paste into the terminal18:30
hub_capi ended up with 1 really long line18:30
hub_capeverything looked formatted18:30
hub_capbut god18:30
hub_capcp16net: its really quite nice18:30
esmutehey guys18:30
cp16nethub_cap: i dunno about that18:30
esmuteim running into some issues with tox18:30
hub_cap:/18:30
hub_capwhts wrong esmute18:31
esmuteit is complaining about some UNKNOWN-0.0.0.zip package18:31
esmutecmdargs=[local('/Users/steveleon/trove/.tox/pep8/bin/pip'), 'install', '--download-cache=/Users/steveleon/trove/.tox/_download', '/Users/steveleon/trove/.tox/dist/UNKNOWN-0.0.0.zip',18:31
esmute'-U', '--no-deps']18:31
hub_capwha?! can u gist?18:31
hub_capdo a tox -r18:31
hub_capitll rebuild it18:31
hub_capcuz thats just GOOFED18:31
cp16netamcrn: hrm i like the idea of giving the the user the "defaults" for the config18:32
esmuteok18:32
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cp16netamcrn: maybe thats something we can add that wont be too much work. Because i already had to parse to reset the dynamic configs18:33
cp16netamcrn: i think i have a way of doing this now.18:33
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amcrncp16net: cool, I'm bouncing out for a bit, bb for meeting18:36
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cweidSlickNik: vipul: could one of you folks take a gander at this commit when you guys get a sec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/49284/ hub_cap has +1ed it.18:41
vipulcweid: sure, i'll make time for it today18:42
hub_capvipul: its a easy review. its -integration fwiw18:42
SlickNikcweid: I'll take a look as well.18:42
hub_capits like ~12 lines difference18:42
cweidtyty18:43
hub_capOMG the "book travel" thing rax uses just gave me a popup add18:43
hub_cap*ad18:43
vipulhub_cap: one thing that is missing is fedora image18:43
hub_capvipul: oooooooooooooooooooooh good call18:43
hub_capwe need to figure someting out w that18:43
cweidlemme boot up a fedora image.18:43
vipulshall i -1 it with that?18:43
hub_caplike, do we, by default support all services on both?18:43
hub_capyes do18:43
vipulor are there known issues18:43
cweidand see what the pkg is called.18:44
cweidif it has it.18:44
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cweiduhhh do we have a min fedora version we have to use?18:45
cweidor can I use 19?18:45
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SnowDustcweild  use el6 compatibility ..18:55
SnowDustthat can help us target fedora / centos / scientific linux / RHEL6  :)18:55
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cweidSnowDust: ty18:57
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SnowDusthub_cap: an EL6 should be the basis not fedora ( i propose )18:58
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hub_capthe real answer is to ask -infra19:04
hub_capcuz they run tests on a centos / ubuntu box19:04
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hub_capill find out19:05
hub_cap12:06 PM jeblair hub_cap: CentOS release 6.4 (Final)19:06
hub_capso use that ;)19:07
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SnowDust:D  so as i said !19:07
SnowDustEPEL is the standard to include compatible packages on RPM based distros ..19:07
SnowDusttherefore we can target  fedora / centos / scientific linux / RHEL6 ..  all supporting that standard19:08
hub_capcorrect SnowDust :)19:09
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redthruxhey hub_cap you pinged me about two hours ago what was it about19:21
hub_capi hate u19:22
redthruxHA i kid it didn't happen19:22
hub_cap;)19:22
openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix quota issue where usages can drop to negative value  https://review.openstack.org/4930119:23
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openstackgerritConrad Weidenkeller proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: blueprint redis-base-image  https://review.openstack.org/4928419:30
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openstackgerritConrad Weidenkeller proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: blueprint redis-base-image  https://review.openstack.org/4928419:33
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cweidkk faildora support has been added verified in fedora 1619:34
hub_caplulz19:37
openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Fix quota issue where usages can drop to negative value  https://review.openstack.org/4930119:39
ikhudoshyn_hub_cap: and all, I hope I made everybody happy this time https://review.openstack.org/#/c/48435/19:45
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hub_capikhudoshyn_: ill view :)19:52
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ikhudoshyn_there's one more question, if u don't mind. Now I'm doing Mongo. But fully-featured support gonna be rather massive chunk of code. So I'd rather merge it piece by piece. Are we ok to merge, say, very basic support, e.g. instance create/remove without other stuff?19:55
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ikhudoshyn_hub_cap: ^ ^19:55
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hub_capyes plz ikhudoshyn_19:56
hub_caplittle = better19:56
ikhudoshyn_great, tnx19:56
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hub_caphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MC_Skat_Kat20:26
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dmakogon_ipodgoodnight 2 all, and cu all again, tomorrow21:00
datsun180bi've got to take off, too21:01
datsun180bsee you tomorrow21:01
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cp16netpeace21:01
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hub_capamcrn: lol its gonna be your favorit thing ever w clustering21:04
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hub_capgreat, grapex also said hes thought about this idea21:08
hub_capso weve got a good ammt of consensus around it21:08
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amcrnhub_cap: i'm more than willing to review a in-depth writeup on it if it hits the mailing-list21:20
amcrni can be convinced either way, I just haven't seen a comprehensive full-blown approach from that angle yet21:21
hub_capi dont think anyone has honestly21:24
hub_capthre is a lot thats unknown21:24
hub_capi just like the concept21:24
hub_capbeing able to resize sub-resources will be interesting21:25
hub_capbut i think we have consensus that its a good concept (assuming the hard things get ironded out)21:26
hub_capinroded lol21:26
amcrnthe only thing I can't get over about that approach is the semantic overloading21:26
amcrnan instance is an instance UNLESS21:26
hub_capno its still an instance :)21:26
hub_capa cluster is an instance21:26
hub_capthats how they want it to be viewed anyway, right, like galera cluster wants you to use a vip21:27
hub_capto appear as one "instance"21:27
amcrnI think of it like a graph with nodes and edges. If you redefine a node to be a node, or a node that has other nodes, a node is a node or a graph now, not just a node.21:27
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amcrni'm happy if it works though :)21:28
* hub_cap finds a travelling salesman21:28
amcrnis someone writing a spec for it?21:28
hub_capi think so amcrn21:28
hub_capi know HP is looking @ it21:30
hub_capand im going to chat w/ imsplitbit tomorrow about it21:30
hub_capso we might just whip something up21:30
amcrnlots of smart folks involved, I'm not too worried, just curious :)21:30
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dukhlov_Hi All!21:45
hub_capok im out all. goin to the city for my first date w/ my wife where we need a babysitter21:46
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juicewoah! hey! look out! time to dust off the cowboy boots21:48
juicewhere are you guys headed to eat?21:49
juicei heard slanted door is pretty amazing21:49
jmontemayorhttp://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/images/14338/mexicanpointyboots__span.jpg21:49
juicethose are definitely date-night in the city boots21:49
cp16netlol21:51
juicehow do you walk up the stairs in those :)21:52
dukhlov_core team, please, have a look at review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/45238/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/44443/21:52
cp16netamcrn: i'm thinking i need the default config list now more and more21:52
hub_capslanted door is good juice21:52
hub_caphttp://www.monkskettle.com/ is better21:52
hub_capjuice: ^  ^21:52
cp16netit is becoming more nessesary for the tests21:52
amcrnhave fun hub_cap!21:52
amcrncp16net: i like it21:52
cp16netto make sure things change as expected21:52
cp16net:-P21:52
hub_caphttp://monkskettle.com/index.php/menus/food/21:53
hub_capi know its gonna be fun, we are going to see man man @ gamh21:53
dukhlov_hub_cap: Have a nice day21:53
amcrncp16net: so on a deep clone, will you actually clone?21:53
cp16netjcru: knows all about those boots...21:53
hub_capthx dukhlov_21:53
amcrn(from the default)21:53
amcrnor overlay?21:53
juicei've actually been there hub_cap - i thought the name sounded familiar...21:54
hub_caphttp://cdn.fd.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Mexicans-pointy-boots.jpg21:54
cp16netwow jcru owns a pair21:54
cp16net:-P21:54
Key6wow21:54
jcruyeah I saw a youtube documentary on those boots21:54
jcrucp16net: :P21:54
hub_capjcru: owns a pair21:54
jcrutheir tied to a genre of mexican music21:54
hub_capand jams his accordian wearing them21:55
jcruyeah I wear them when I code at home :)21:55
cp16netplaying the wash board21:55
jcruwith my emacs pedals21:55
hub_capjcru: conjunto21:55
hub_caplol21:55
hub_capok srsly im out21:55
jcruLOL21:56
* hub_cap goes to put on his pointy boots21:56
esmutejcru: are you from Mexico?21:56
jcruesmute: parents are21:56
hub_capno esmute but jcrú is21:56
jcrui wuz born in San antonio21:56
cp16nethub_cap: nice :-P21:56
jcrupractically i'm mexican :)21:56
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jcruhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUXAvpP1Usw21:57
esmutelol21:57
jcruthis is how I learned about these boots21:57
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