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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove-integration: Fixes typos in project files https://review.openstack.org/62050 | 02:48 |
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| SushilKM | hub_cap r u around | 03:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove 'mount_point' from guestagent RPC API https://review.openstack.org/57189 | 10:04 |
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| dmakogon_ | SlickNik, https://gist.github.com/denismakogon/8003282 | 11:09 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Cleans the method init_engine https://review.openstack.org/62235 | 11:13 |
| SushilKM | hey slicknik i have updated commit message for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62235/ | 11:13 |
| SushilKM | :) | 11:13 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Changes command to create the directory https://review.openstack.org/62448 | 11:15 |
| SushilKM | for this one too https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62448 | 11:15 |
| SushilKM | also luking ur review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61948/ | 11:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | Denis M. proposed a change to openstack/trove: Show AZ on create and show request https://review.openstack.org/62414 | 11:22 |
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| SushilKM | needed help for rerun of redwarf on https://review.openstack.org/62448 and https://review.openstack.org/62235 | 12:25 |
| SushilKM | hey denis could help me | 12:25 |
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| denis_makogon | SushilKM, yes | 13:13 |
| SushilKM | thanks denis_makogon :) | 13:13 |
| denis_makogon | SushilKM, you're welcome | 13:14 |
| denis_makogon | SushilKM, done | 13:14 |
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| SushilKM | thanks denis both redwarfs done successfuly :) | 14:19 |
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| denis_makogon | SushilKM, i see, cool =) | 14:37 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i think we need to answer something https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/UnifiedGuestAgent | 16:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove-integration: Fixed misspellings of common words https://review.openstack.org/62556 | 16:09 |
| hub_cap | whats that denis_makogon? | 16:11 |
| hub_cap | ahhh i need to respond to this | 16:11 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, ^_^ | 16:12 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, there's huge thread, called [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal | 16:12 |
| kevinconway | by huge thread he means the same three or four people saying a lot of things | 16:13 |
| hub_cap | hah yea... | 16:13 |
| hub_cap | thats the mailing list for u :) | 16:13 |
| robertmyers | My vote is for anything but salt | 16:13 |
| hub_cap | so what decisions do we need to make denis_makogon? | 16:13 |
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| denis_makogon | guys, all your thoughts https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroveGuestAgentUpdateUpgrade working on design; | 16:14 |
| denis_makogon | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroveDBInstanceLogOperation working on design; | 16:14 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, we need to describe out requirements for agent | 16:14 |
| kevinconway | hub_cap: there's been a lot said about what Trove needs and what Trove wants | 16:14 |
| denis_makogon | API, transport, etc. | 16:14 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, yes, but noone from trove community didn't wrote any word | 16:15 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: ahh ill go thru and read the thread... i accidentally nuked everything that wasnt a bug/blueprint listing that said trove | 16:15 |
| hub_cap | horray for screwing up filters | 16:15 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Moving storage logic out of backup runner class https://review.openstack.org/56702 | 16:16 |
| hub_cap | fuck, 84 msgs..... | 16:16 |
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| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Properly mark a backup as FAILED if the process failed https://review.openstack.org/59283 | 16:17 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, could this one been reviewed ? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57796/ | 16:18 |
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| datsun180b | yeah it's a doozie | 16:20 |
| datsun180b | glad to see we're at least being mentioned in that guest agent thread | 16:21 |
| hub_cap | heh i hate to say it, but in the initial emails the salt thing does sound good ;) ;) robertmyers | 16:21 |
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| robertmyers | hub_cap: well, it is awesome | 16:22 |
| robertmyers | but I think it will be overkill | 16:22 |
| greghill | are they proposing a guest agent just for normal nova instances? that seems like a bad idea for a public cloud, huge security implications | 16:22 |
| kevinconway | greghill: it's an agent for *everything* | 16:22 |
| kevinconway | i don't know a whole lot about salt except that I don't like the logic behind choosing it for the universal agent | 16:23 |
| robertmyers | greghill: yeah, that is my concern, what if a customer wants to run salt | 16:23 |
| kevinconway | "nobody uses this. let's make it the standard" | 16:23 |
| SushilKM | hey hub_cap, slicknik plz look into these ones https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62235/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62236/ these were earlier approved and slight change in commit message was made :) | 16:24 |
| SushilKM | slicknik this one is left for urs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62448/ | 16:24 |
| greghill | while we're begging for +2's - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62039/ | 16:24 |
| SushilKM | and i would bother reviewers with one more https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61948/ pleasssssse ...... | 16:25 |
| greghill | was the serial console ruled out? Seems like having the node contact the instance is a much safer security option | 16:25 |
| hub_cap | omg this thread is so worthelss | 16:26 |
| hub_cap | *worthless | 16:26 |
| hub_cap | ok gotta go take dog to bathroom, maybe ill see a reply while im out there | 16:26 |
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| hub_cap | does sushil just say somethign and leave every day?? :) | 16:31 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, lol, yes))) | 16:32 |
| hub_cap | HAHAHAAHA | 16:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | I gonna leave now, so I just can tell something too )) | 16:33 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, it would be nice if you would take a look at my wiki pages, i posted links below | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | ikhudoshyn: haha ya ask a question, or ask for a review | 16:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | ..oops, i already did it | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | and then leave immediately ikhudoshyn | 16:33 |
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| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: make the bin scripts called with main() https://review.openstack.org/54225 | 16:33 |
| hub_cap | ah yes the log stuff denis_makogon? | 16:33 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, not only | 16:34 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, also guest code update/upgrade | 16:34 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/guestagent-update-upgrade | 16:34 |
| denis_makogon | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/dbinstance-log | 16:35 |
| denis_makogon | i described API part, models and server/guest configuration | 16:35 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, sorry, but i also gonna leave =( | 16:36 |
| hub_cap | hehehehehe | 16:38 |
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| hub_cap | ok ill comment | 16:38 |
| hub_cap | plz put the dbinstance one on the meeting agenda so people know yer working on it | 16:38 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: are you trying to add an API call for getting database logs? | 16:41 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: correct | 16:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: add test.rc file to source and .gitignore addition https://review.openstack.org/59527 | 16:44 |
| kevinconway | ok, i guess that's neat. i'll have some questions for him when everyone gets back | 16:46 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: ya i think itd be best to leave questions on the wiki / blueprint for now so we dont forget em | 16:47 |
| kevinconway | oh boy. we get to talk about update/migrations too | 16:48 |
| kevinconway | i'm excited about that one | 16:49 |
| kevinconway | hub_cap: how do i leave comments on a BP? | 16:50 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: well.. typically u just edit it | 16:51 |
| hub_cap | and add to it | 16:51 |
| hub_cap | its not pretty | 16:51 |
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| hub_cap | but if u refresh the bp, i just fixed it up a little so it doesnt ahve all that text in it | 16:51 |
| hub_cap | since that text is already on the wiki | 16:51 |
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| SushilKM | hey slicknik r u around mate .... | 16:53 |
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| SushilKM | hub_cap https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62236/ "reverify no bug" | 16:56 |
| SushilKM | it does not takes my command plzzzz | 16:57 |
| SushilKM | jenkins fails without any purpose ..... :( | 16:58 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/datastore-type-version-followon was andrey supposed to work on this? | 16:59 |
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| kevinconway | SushilKM: reverify no bug doesn't exist any more | 16:59 |
| SushilKM | thats bad one @kevinconway | 17:00 |
| datsun180b | yeah thanks a lot kevinconway | 17:00 |
| SushilKM | so, even if jenkins fails without any reasons, the approvers are needed to be banged for that :( | 17:00 |
| SushilKM | thats bad on their part too | 17:00 |
| SushilKM | xtra baggage :( | 17:01 |
| kevinconway | look, you all had your change to voice your opinion in the thread that said it was being turned off and there was nothing you could do about it | 17:01 |
| kevinconway | i think the idea is you're supposed to do "reverify bug 1234" where 1234 is an actual gate bug that is being tacked | 17:01 |
| kevinconway | *tracked | 17:01 |
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| SushilKM | ok so, lets do my effort now, hub_cap (knock knock) plz resubmit :) | 17:02 |
| SushilKM | so i think we should have bug for this jenkins failure | 17:02 |
| SushilKM | it comes so often | 17:02 |
| hub_cap | SushilKM: link plz | 17:02 |
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| SushilKM | https://review.openstack.org/62236 | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | SushilKM: its not up to me to retrigger that, u can do it | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | find the bug, on | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | http://status.openstack.org/rechecks/ | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | that caused failure | 17:03 |
| hub_cap | and then, in a comment on the review, type "reverify bug XXXXX" like kevinconway said | 17:04 |
| SushilKM | how can i retrigger hub_cap, please let me know that | 17:04 |
| hub_cap | i just said that hehe | 17:04 |
| SushilKM | ok for bugs | 17:04 |
| SushilKM | but if no bugs are there | 17:04 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: actually you really only want to do 'recheck no bug' | 17:05 |
| robertmyers | recheck bug XXX is for a bug that is in the gate | 17:05 |
| hub_cap | robertmyers: hes in a verify state | 17:05 |
| robertmyers | not the bug in your review that you are fixing | 17:05 |
| pdmars | imsplitbit: hub_cap: jcru: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62712/ | 17:05 |
| hub_cap | we've alrady gotten +2's and its in the zuul pipeline and it failed robertmyers | 17:06 |
| hub_cap | so it becomes reverify bug XXX | 17:06 |
| SushilKM | i think i got the bug | 17:06 |
| SushilKM | 1236620 | 17:06 |
| hub_cap | recheck is only for the openstack +1 | 17:06 |
| robertmyers | oh, never mind then | 17:06 |
| SushilKM | let me reverify that :) | 17:06 |
| hub_cap | SushilKM: wait up | 17:06 |
| hub_cap | yes u are correct | 17:07 |
| hub_cap | thats the bug | 17:07 |
| hub_cap | then just do a reverify bug 1236620 | 17:07 |
| SushilKM | sure | 17:07 |
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| SushilKM | wonders it got restarted | 17:07 |
| hub_cap | juice: did u fix that?!?!?!!?! | 17:07 |
| SushilKM | kind reviewers, waiting the feedback for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61948/ | 17:08 |
| SushilKM | :) | 17:08 |
| hub_cap | that bug has been the bane of our tox test existance | 17:08 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: the fix is probably similar to my earlier fix | 17:09 |
| robertmyers | need to look up the *actual* time in the DB | 17:09 |
| hub_cap | robertmyers: im sure it is... its just a matter of finding it | 17:09 |
| hub_cap | and since juice keeps saying hes gonna fix it, i keep hounding him ;) | 17:10 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: when you get a chance can you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60358/ | 17:11 |
| SushilKM | in 61948 i have made the change to remove the logging configuration for nova | 17:11 |
| robertmyers | that is the api changes for pagination | 17:11 |
| SushilKM | we do not needed those logs | 17:11 |
| hub_cap | robertmyers: shure | 17:11 |
| SushilKM | and if needed we could always change to nova.conf | 17:11 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Removes dead code from trove/tests/api/root.py https://review.openstack.org/62236 | 17:11 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: thanks! | 17:12 |
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| SushilKM | robertmyers u can put an eye on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61948/ too | 17:13 |
| robertmyers | SushilKM: I can but I have no idea what this does? | 17:14 |
| robertmyers | devstack changes? | 17:14 |
| hub_cap | robertmyers: id like to let amcrn comment on that since he added it | 17:14 |
| SushilKM | fine np @robertmyers | 17:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Simplify swift storage load logic https://review.openstack.org/57796 | 17:16 |
| robertmyers | ^^^ my last blocker for incremental backups | 17:16 |
| SushilKM | @robertmyers the basic idea of my patchset is to get the logging part for nova out of trove-integration and let nova deal with those logs itself, coz we do not need them :) | 17:16 |
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| SushilKM | :) | 17:17 |
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| robertmyers | SushilKM: okay, but this is just for devstack? so I don't see the point, we want logs in development | 17:17 |
| robertmyers | so we can see failures | 17:18 |
| SushilKM | so then they could be turned on in nova.conf | 17:18 |
| SushilKM | and also they r visible in screen -x | 17:18 |
| SushilKM | its all alike trove services, default logging is off | 17:19 |
| robertmyers | I get that, my point is should this all be moved to devstack | 17:19 |
| SushilKM | which could be turned on if interested | 17:19 |
| SushilKM | yeah, all other logs are there itself, only left part in trove was nova, probably no-one looked that | 17:20 |
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| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Instance details view shows hostname (if it has it) or IP https://review.openstack.org/61910 | 17:39 |
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| openstackgerrit | Andrey Shestakov proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Datastore support improvements https://review.openstack.org/60588 | 17:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removes privilege modification for MYSQL_BASE_DIR https://review.openstack.org/62724 | 18:07 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removes privilege modification for MYSQL_BASE_DIR https://review.openstack.org/62724 | 18:08 |
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| hub_cap | ugh, on hold w/ att :/ | 18:27 |
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| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Replaces value of MYSQL_BASE_DIR https://review.openstack.org/62731 | 18:37 |
| greghill | hub_cap/SushilKM: moving the default datastore to the config still has a backwards compatibility problem doesn't it? How do we normally communicate changes like this to consumers of the project? | 18:37 |
| SushilKM | greghill i would say putting that on config would make it more configurable, that way it could be changed by making changes in conf file instead of digging code | 18:40 |
| greghill | ok, but I should default the config to mysql to cover the majority yes? | 18:41 |
| SushilKM | i would +1 to config+mysql | 18:42 |
| SushilKM | that wud make it configurable at least. | 18:42 |
| greghill | word. I also found another spot that was assuming datastore existed, so I'm fixing that as well | 18:43 |
| SushilKM | cool | 18:43 |
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| juice | robertmyers: hub_cap: upon finding the bug, I found another bug related to server statuses | 18:47 |
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| juice | robertmyers: your previous fix won't work in this scenario since the current implementation updates the instance after sending the usage event | 18:48 |
| anteaya | SlickNik: hello | 18:48 |
| juice | trust me guys I have been working on this and at the same time trying to untangle some messes related to status, documentation, etc. | 18:48 |
| anteaya | hub_cap: you will be asked in about 12 minutes about trove testing for infra, do you have a response? | 18:48 |
| anteaya | like some tests? | 18:48 |
| juice | I feel as frustrated as you...trrust me | 18:48 |
| anteaya | or does SlickNik? | 18:48 |
| robertmyers | juice: hmm, should the instance update come before the usage event? | 18:49 |
| juice | i think it should | 18:49 |
| juice | and the usage event should share the same updated time | 18:49 |
| juice | imho | 18:49 |
| juice | however, later in same transaction we update the instance again | 18:50 |
| robertmyers | juice: make it so :) | 18:50 |
| robertmyers | doh | 18:50 |
| juice | but the other issue that I uncovered while correcting it was that there is a bug in calculating status | 18:50 |
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| robertmyers | yeah, that code is scary | 18:51 |
| juice | that is, though I am trying to prove that there is an attribute on SimpleInstance and it's family that gets two different types assigned to it | 18:51 |
| juice | ServiceStatus and InstanceServiceStatus (or InstanceServerStatus) | 18:52 |
| SlickNik | anteaya: I'm still working on the infrastructure changes needed to run trove in devstack gate. | 18:52 |
| anteaya | SlickNik: great, the meeting starts in 8 minutes | 18:52 |
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| anteaya | in -meeting | 18:52 |
| juice | any who I am pushing for correctness and adding unit test for the BuiltInstanceTasks/ResizeAction which surrounds all of this | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | anteaya: am i late? | 18:53 |
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| anteaya | SlickNik: can you join -meeting and are you ready to give a report? | 18:53 |
| anteaya | hub_cap: no, a heads up | 18:53 |
| anteaya | who would have thought? | 18:53 |
| hub_cap | hehe | 18:53 |
| anteaya | :D | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | anteaya: A couple of others (flying_bond (Debashish), and dlakunchikov (Dmitri)) have started writing some basic tests. | 18:54 |
| anteaya | great | 18:54 |
| SlickNik | anteaya: Sure thing, I'll join. | 18:54 |
| anteaya | hoefully they are in -meeting as well and can follow along, speak up | 18:54 |
| anteaya | SlickNik: thanks | 18:55 |
| freyes | hi guys | 18:55 |
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| hub_cap | hey freyes | 18:59 |
| freyes | hi hub_cap, how are you? | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Cleans the method init_engine https://review.openstack.org/62235 | 19:00 |
| hub_cap | chillin :) | 19:00 |
| hub_cap | isviridov: around? | 19:00 |
| openstackgerrit | A change was merged to openstack/trove: Changes command to create the directory https://review.openstack.org/62448 | 19:01 |
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| SnowDust | anteaya : real name ? | 19:02 |
| hub_cap | SnowDust: her real name is ubuntu | 19:02 |
| hub_cap | ;) | 19:02 |
| anteaya | SnowDust: my real name is Anita Kuno | 19:02 |
| anteaya | hub_cap: smart guy | 19:02 |
| SnowDust | aunty yo ! | 19:02 |
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| anteaya | yeah that works too | 19:03 |
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| SnowDust | "I can’t believe I am writing this post. I promised myself I would never write this post. I would keep my head down and work hard and make a difference and I would never have to write this story. I can’t believe I am writing this story." | 19:05 |
| SnowDust | pretty .. confused !! | 19:05 |
| SnowDust | " All I can hope to do is be one of the 9 people this person meets in their life, just so they can break even." | 19:06 |
| SushilKM__ | whats that SnowDust some new messages | 19:06 |
| SnowDust | and .. point noted .. anteaya ! | 19:06 |
| anteaya | SnowDust is reading my blog | 19:06 |
| SnowDust | making anteaya known :) | 19:06 |
| SushilKM__ | oh k cooool | 19:07 |
| SnowDust | now ..lets see ..how anteaya helped .. Flying_bond /Dlakunchikov break even :D | 19:07 |
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| SushilKM__ | SnowDust/anteaya link plz ... | 19:09 |
| freyes | SushilKM__, http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/09/09/this-was-posted-today/ | 19:11 |
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| SnowDust | ok .. back from the blackout :D | 19:16 |
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| hub_cap | yeesh, i guess my microcell is broked | 19:27 |
| SnowDust | anteaya still reading ur blog carefully .... "so all the teachers new me from the start." | 19:27 |
| SnowDust | new ?? | 19:27 |
| hub_cap | the lvl 3 tech support hasnt called back yet and its been over 1 hr (they quoted me 15 min) | 19:27 |
| anteaya | SnowDust: I'm in a meeting | 19:28 |
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| anteaya | SnowDust: if you have comments for improving my posts, please feel free | 19:29 |
| anteaya | SnowDust: if you are trolling me, please don't waste my time | 19:29 |
| SnowDust | christmas it is .. anteaya .. rhymes to santa .. but not that cool ! | 19:29 |
| SnowDust | anyways .. | 19:29 |
| SnowDust | no trolling ... x . y . z | 19:30 |
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| openstackgerrit | Conrad Weidenkeller proposed a change to openstack/trove: Added Redis Crud Operations blueprint redis-support https://review.openstack.org/53481 | 19:54 |
| openstackgerrit | Steve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding number of CPU to flavor details https://review.openstack.org/62748 | 19:54 |
| SnowDust | anteaya : best of ur blog is the git one .. gr8 work ! | 19:55 |
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| anteaya | vipul-away: I'm a tad unnerved by SnowDust's interest in me, since I understand he reports to you, can you review the above and please convey how this level of personal focus is inappropriate for creating a comfortable working environment | 19:59 |
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| kevinconway | oh man, SnowDust is in troooouble | 20:01 |
| kevinconway | unless that was serious in which case ignore me | 20:02 |
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| greghill | Maybe it's just because I'm new and don't know the personalities yet, but it seemed inappropriate to me as well. Not sure what the point of it was, if there was one. | 20:13 |
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| SnowDust | greghill : real name pls ! | 20:14 |
| datsun180b | SnowDust: irrelevant | 20:15 |
| datsun180b | as it was before | 20:15 |
| SnowDust | datsun :) i love ur reviews ..and .. look to your name ..as i know | 20:16 |
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| SnowDust | wc ! denis_makogon_ | 20:16 |
| SnowDust | oslo progress ? | 20:16 |
| grapex | SnowDust: This isn't Facebook, we don't require real names. :) | 20:19 |
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| datsun180b | grapex: Ok, we'll ask you later. | 20:19 |
| SnowDust | grapex : u too are respected for your comments ..first and thorough reviews | 20:19 |
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| denis_makogon | sup | 20:19 |
| SnowDust | and example .. are cast with your real name :) | 20:19 |
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| vipul | anteaya: I apologize. He doesn't report to me, although I can make sure your message gets conveyed. | 20:20 |
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| denis_makogon | am i missed something ? | 20:24 |
| datsun180b | denis_makogon: don't worry about it | 20:24 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: i have questions about the logging BP you created. how do you want me to add them to the wiki? | 20:25 |
| kevinconway | just inline? | 20:25 |
| anteaya | vipul: thank you | 20:25 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, use whiteboard | 20:26 |
| denis_makogon | with your nickname as tag, exampla: why blah-blah ? [kevinconway] | 20:26 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: well, all content got moved to wiki page at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TroveDBInstanceLogOperation | 20:27 |
| kevinconway | BP just links now | 20:27 |
| datsun180b | Why do fools fall in love ? [frankielymon] | 20:28 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, yes, they are the same, but we can communicate through BP or ML | 20:28 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, tomorrow i'm gonna start thread to collect community requirements | 20:29 |
| kevinconway | Ok, maybe ML then | 20:29 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, anyway, what's the question ? | 20:29 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, i'd be like to answer | 20:29 |
| denis_makogon | if it's possible | 20:29 |
| kevinconway | it is a mystery | 20:29 |
| kevinconway | you must be suprised | 20:29 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: I'm mostly curious about the LogFileName parameter | 20:30 |
| freyes | anteaya, I used your tutorial to bring up devstack with vagrant, it worked like a charm, I was using a remote VM to develop, but I think vagrant will be better for me | 20:30 |
| SnowDust | denis_makogon : they dont find limits or compete with the personality they are in love with .. they need brain to do that :) | 20:30 |
| SnowDust | so love exists always .. that way | 20:30 |
| SnowDust | oopz .. that was for datsun180b | 20:31 |
| datsun180b | vagrant's the best | 20:31 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: as in what is that parameter for / why is it needed | 20:31 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, LogFileName is same as instance name | 20:31 |
| datsun180b | SnowDust: buddy you're at about an 8 right now. gonna need you at at 3 | 20:31 |
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| kevinconway | denis_makogon: but you already require instance-id or instance-name | 20:32 |
| kevinconway | why twice? | 20:32 |
| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: adding configuration group support https://review.openstack.org/53168 | 20:32 |
| denis_makogon | i mean that it's DB record name | 20:32 |
| robertmyers | datsun180b: lol | 20:33 |
| denis_makogon | id | name| size| location| | 20:33 |
| denis_makogon | forgot |instance_id| | 20:33 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: but why not just use id and not have filename | 20:33 |
| kevinconway | since each instance can only have one on it anyway | 20:33 |
| anteaya | freyes: thanks for the feedback, I'm glad it worked for you | 20:34 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, one on it, but many in swift | 20:34 |
| anteaya | I have some follow-up posts to write, included the new devstack config changes | 20:34 |
| anteaya | I just need the time to write the posts :/ | 20:34 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, trove uses backup names | 20:35 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, i did it in same way | 20:35 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: so you plan to send log files to swift? | 20:35 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, ues | 20:35 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 20:35 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, AmazonRDS allows to do that | 20:36 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: your BP also has log lines recorded in database correct? | 20:36 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, what do you mean log lines ? | 20:37 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: i guess i am confused. what does this API do? | 20:37 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, casts call into guest, guest streams mysql log into swift | 20:39 |
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| denis_makogon | kevinconway, did i answered your question ? | 20:42 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: a little | 20:42 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, logic the same as backups have | 20:42 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: so in your API i can't see logs in real time, only as a backup of logs? | 20:43 |
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| denis_makogon | kevinconway, yes | 20:43 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, it's really hard to organize data stream through MQ | 20:44 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: it is not different than sending a list of users, just list of lines | 20:44 |
| robertmyers | kevinconway: I'm not sure it will work like that with a 100M file | 20:46 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, you took words from my toung | 20:46 |
| kevinconway | robertmyers: well you wouldn't send the whole thing. paginate like everything else | 20:46 |
| robertmyers | denis_makogon: what would be nice is the slow query log | 20:46 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, 100k lines ? | 20:46 |
| robertmyers | kevinconway: why? | 20:47 |
| kevinconway | why paginate? | 20:47 |
| robertmyers | that would take for ever to see the line you want | 20:47 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, ++ | 20:47 |
| kevinconway | robertmyers: how so? you can ask for any page | 20:47 |
| kevinconway | or request multiple pages in sequence to be a "stream" | 20:48 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, how do you know which page you want ? | 20:48 |
| robertmyers | if it is in swift you can download the whole thing and grep | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | so when we originally discussed this feature | 20:48 |
| denis_makogon | robertmyers, ++ | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | it was like ths | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | *thi | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | DAMMIT | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | *this | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | u can "tail" your log files | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | via the api | 20:48 |
| hub_cap | and if you want a file in its entirely, u must schedule it to download to swift | 20:48 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, tailing through RPC ? | 20:49 |
| robertmyers | hub_cap: like what? | 20:49 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: not "tail -f" | 20:49 |
| hub_cap | jsut the last X lines, over rpc, sent from the guest back to the client | 20:49 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, oh, N lines - it's possible | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | so like, as tail does X lines, we would do like, 100 lines back to the customer | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | yes denis_makogon | 20:50 |
| kevinconway | i guess my question is why arbitrarily limit it to the last few lines? | 20:50 |
| robertmyers | i see, that would work | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | well we arent a data api | 20:50 |
| kevinconway | let them request chunks of 100 lines at a time | 20:50 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, that is what AmazonRDS defines as value-add to downloading log files | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | kevinconway: pagination of logfiles? | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | itll be hard to manage as they change | 20:50 |
| robertmyers | kevinconway: add a limit flag | 20:50 |
| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removes directory creation prior to _tmp_mount https://review.openstack.org/62754 | 20:50 |
| hub_cap | so by the time u get to "page 2" your marker is gone | 20:51 |
| hub_cap | unless u want to start from the begin of the file, and then its worthless up to the nearest point in time, where your error happened, so to speak | 20:51 |
| kevinconway | i don't get that last statement | 20:52 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, so, let me describe in ML my suggestion and first steps which would be implemented | 20:52 |
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| hub_cap | well i think it would make sense to take the "tail" via api and "download file" via swift aproach denis_makogon | 20:52 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i would like to start with last one | 20:52 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, swift 'ing | 20:52 |
| kevinconway | i agree that putting the logs on swift is a good idea | 20:53 |
| denis_makogon | bug first let me start the ML | 20:53 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: i think that makes sense, lets start with "ship to swift" | 20:53 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, sound good to me | 20:54 |
| denis_makogon | *sounds | 20:54 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, have you read wiki page for guest update/upgrade ? | 20:55 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: i looked over it | 20:56 |
| hub_cap | ill re-read it when i get your email from the mailing list, so i can respond to it | 20:56 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, it's imperfect, but good for start | 20:56 |
| hub_cap | sure | 20:56 |
| hub_cap | one thing to suggest | 20:56 |
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| hub_cap | make the "request / response" stuff in the wiki look nicer | 20:57 |
| hub_cap | cp16net: BURN | 20:57 |
| cp16net | :-P | 20:57 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, oh, is it so bad ? | 20:57 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: typically its in a table | 20:58 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i would try to make it better | 20:58 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, (steping a-side from current topic) what about datastore matrix ? | 20:59 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: everything must be perfect. there is not "good enough" | 20:59 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: i have until tomorrow to make it ;) | 20:59 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, yup, tell me more about how cute should OpenStack Wiki should be =P | 20:59 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, it would be nice to let me fill my an ikhudoshyn 's part in it | 21:00 |
| kevinconway | denis_makogon: i like the part in the matrix where i get the blue pill | 21:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Sushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removes directory creation prior to _tmp_mount https://review.openstack.org/62754 | 21:00 |
| datsun180b | i'm imagining the pony version of the diablo iii logo | 21:00 |
| datsun180b | just for openstack | 21:00 |
| hub_cap | ok i finished drawing the datastore matrix with sticks and sand, as per kevinconway's suggestion denis_makogon | 21:01 |
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| denis_makogon | datsun180b, tc meeting is finished, but we could suggest them new OS log | 21:01 |
| denis_makogon | logg | 21:01 |
| denis_makogon | logo | 21:01 |
| datsun180b | guess i missed it | 21:02 |
| denis_makogon | i suggest broken brick | 21:02 |
| hub_cap | lool | 21:02 |
| denis_makogon | or like datsun180b said, but not at all - half of pony | 21:03 |
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| denis_makogon | where did everyone gone ? | 21:13 |
| kevinconway | hiding... | 21:13 |
| * hub_cap is hiding from kevinconway and denis_makogon | 21:16 | |
| SnowDust | hi denis_makogon | 21:18 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, sup | 21:19 |
| SnowDust | denis_makogon wanted to know the oslo integration status | 21:19 |
| SnowDust | n where can i help ? | 21:20 |
| SnowDust | now .. denis_makogon went to hiding as well | 21:21 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, i'm here | 21:22 |
| SnowDust | ok ..! | 21:22 |
| denis_makogon | my status - Review In Progress | 21:22 |
| SnowDust | :) | 21:22 |
| SnowDust | thats gr8 .. | 21:22 |
| denis_makogon | oslo integration means - adding [{datastore}] group | 21:23 |
| denis_makogon | and dedicated to it parameters | 21:23 |
| denis_makogon | like mount point | 21:23 |
| denis_makogon | backup_strategy | 21:23 |
| denis_makogon | manager, etc | 21:23 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, did i answered your question ? | 21:24 |
| SnowDust | what abt openstack-common .. to oslo ? | 21:24 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, elaborate | 21:24 |
| denis_makogon | you mean syncing ? | 21:24 |
| SnowDust | oslo.messaging | 21:26 |
| SnowDust | The oslo.messaging provides a messaging API which supports RPC and notifications over a number of different messaging transports. It is maintained by Mark McLoughlin. | 21:26 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, oslo.massaging is not mine | 21:26 |
| denis_makogon | someone took it | 21:26 |
| SnowDust | oslo.rootwrap | 21:26 |
| SnowDust | oslo.rootwrap Rootwrap allows fine filtering of shell commands to run as root from OpenStack services. | 21:26 |
| denis_makogon | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/oslo-messaging | 21:26 |
| SnowDust | to replace utils.* | 21:27 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, about root_wrap - it's not easy as it is | 21:27 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, someday i planned to do that | 21:27 |
| SnowDust | :) | 21:27 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, but if you would like to do that, i'd be glad | 21:28 |
| denis_makogon | unfortunately, i cannot do everything i want | 21:28 |
| SnowDust | hmm .. will give it a try if i have time this weekend | 21:28 |
| denis_makogon | i just have no time for all features/bugs | 21:28 |
| SnowDust | hub_cap: denis_makogon needs a pat :) plzzzzzzz do it 4 me :) | 21:29 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, what ? | 21:30 |
| kevinconway | but denis_makogon, you only sleep 40 minutes each day. where does all the time go? | 21:30 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, salsa, snowboarding, girls | 21:30 |
| datsun180b | kevinconway: denis_makogon is not Buddy the Elf | 21:30 |
| kevinconway | salsa dancing or salsa eating? | 21:30 |
| kevinconway | i like the second better | 21:31 |
| datsun180b | porque no los dos | 21:31 |
| denis_makogon | dancing | 21:31 |
| openstackgerrit | Robert Myers proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding Incremental Backups https://review.openstack.org/59568 | 21:32 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, i researched a bit, only nova and cinder uses oslo.root_wrap | 21:32 |
| SnowDust | k .. | 21:33 |
| denis_makogon | kevinconway, datsun180b, hub_cap, SnowDust, have you ever thought about adding to instance view db connection string ? | 21:33 |
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| hub_cap | what do u mean? wont that vary depending on user password, as well as application / library you use? | 21:34 |
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| kevinconway | you could always let the client include the connection statement they _want_ in the POST | 21:36 |
| kevinconway | and just echo it back to them | 21:36 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, yeah, maybe | 21:36 |
| datsun180b | if only there were a secure way to connect to the instance's shell | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | bet it would solve a lot of our problems | 21:37 |
| datsun180b | i guess that's a huge attack vector though, if an attacker had a valid username and password, or even just an accepted key, they could potentially execute anything unabated | 21:38 |
| denis_makogon | yes | 21:38 |
| amcrn | datsun180b: fwiw, there's a lot of related discussion about that in the Unified Guest Agent thread (in case you're interested and hadn't seen it yet) | 21:38 |
| datsun180b | oh i'm watching it | 21:39 |
| denis_makogon | amcrn, thread is crazy | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | as soon as a decision is made one way or the other we might be able to surrender some code | 21:39 |
| denis_makogon | let's wait until PoC | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | we only have, what, two independent guest agents already created and running in production | 21:39 |
| kevinconway | yes, i think a lot of us are watching it with trepidation | 21:39 |
| datsun180b | maybe more depending on how Huey P's crew is deploying things | 21:40 |
| kevinconway | i'm still not clear on the purpose of the universal agent thread | 21:41 |
| kevinconway | seems to be a lot more about guest communication transports than anything else | 21:41 |
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| denis_makogon | kevinconway, each PaaS project requires process which works at VM | 21:41 |
| denis_makogon | cnf-tools | 21:42 |
| grapex | I think one issue we have is Trove is not a generalized PaaS | 21:42 |
| grapex | So a unified guest agent doesn't really buy us much | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | quite the opposite | 21:42 |
| grapex | except for potentially bloat | 21:42 |
| datsun180b | for us it'll just be trying to figure out how to attach our wings and ramjets to our brand new ski-doo that will be issued to us | 21:43 |
| kevinconway | yeah, i don't really see what it would buy us | 21:43 |
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| hub_cap | yea we will keep watch on that thread | 21:45 |
| hub_cap | i dont think it has anything we need, yet | 21:45 |
| kevinconway | even so, our name is being tossed around to justify opinions | 21:46 |
| grapex | hub_cap: I think the bigger problem is the philosophy is wrong | 21:46 |
| kevinconway | "guys, it's just like when Trove does XYZ" | 21:46 |
| grapex | If we were a general paas, combining all of them would make sense | 21:46 |
| grapex | but the idea is Trove just manages and works with datastores- we don't give direct control of the guest to our users | 21:47 |
| grapex | so we don't need huge guests. Usually whenever we think we need the guest to do something we find a way around it that leads to a simpler design. | 21:47 |
| SnowDust | the best presentation theme of HongKong OpenStack Summit - "TRUTH HAPPENS" ( get inspired daily ) | 21:48 |
| SnowDust | thanks guys ! | 21:48 |
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| SushilKM | hub_cap, slicknik kindly review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62754/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62731/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62724/ | 21:56 |
| SushilKM | :) | 21:56 |
| SushilKM | thanks | 21:56 |
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| cp16net | hmm how do i update tox? | 22:08 |
| cp16net | i have 1.5 installed and its yelling i need 1.6 now | 22:08 |
| datsun180b | cp16net: a stake of century oak and white phosphorus | 22:09 |
| cp16net | oh yeah? | 22:09 |
| datsun180b | alternately shouldn't it have a selfupdate | 22:09 |
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| cp16net | what cmds? pip install tox didnt work | 22:10 |
| datsun180b | install -U maybe? | 22:10 |
| datsun180b | pypi says 1.6.1 is the latest and greatest | 22:10 |
| cp16net | hmmm | 22:10 |
| juice | robertmyers, hub_cap: recap of our earlier discussion...so it appears that through the hierarchy of SimpleInstance, server_status became a little overloaded/corrupted. In some subclasses it was treated as one type and in others yet another. So I am locking it down so that it has to go through a setter via a property. I can only assume this will happen again and given the amount of logic that depends on "status", I want to ensure it is correct | 22:11 |
| cp16net | looks like i had to reload the venv | 22:11 |
| datsun180b | ah that'll do it | 22:11 |
| cp16net | nice :) | 22:12 |
| cp16net | ok now i can validate my changes again | 22:12 |
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| denis_makogon | cp16net, to update tox you need to do "pip install tox --upgrade" | 22:18 |
| denis_makogon | outside of venv | 22:19 |
| cp16net | i had to do that as well as reload my venv | 22:19 |
| denis_makogon | not sure about venv | 22:23 |
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| openstackgerrit | Craig Vyvial proposed a change to openstack/trove: adding configuration group support https://review.openstack.org/53168 | 23:10 |
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