Wednesday, 2013-12-18

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openstackgerritFelipe Reyes proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds missing dependency to the documentation  https://review.openstack.org/6013301:27
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SushilKMhey denis10:41
SushilKMcan u help me running reddwarf for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62754/10:43
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denis_makogonSushilKM, ok11:25
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SushilKMthanks denis11:26
SushilKMalso ur review on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62724/11:26
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Replaces location to be backed up during prepare  https://review.openstack.org/6239912:01
openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Replaces location to be backed up during prepare  https://review.openstack.org/6239912:03
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SushilKMDenis F113:05
SushilKMF1 => Help13:05
SushilKMkindly run reddwarf for https://review.openstack.org/6239913:05
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openstackgerritDirk Mueller proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Tighten flake8 checks in Gating  https://review.openstack.org/6214613:08
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removed underscores from end of some variables  https://review.openstack.org/6288013:39
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denis_makogonSushilKM, i'm not your Windows Support Center14:40
denis_makogonSushilKM, please ping me, because i can't see what you are writing to me without it14:41
openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removed unused variable _ from code  https://review.openstack.org/6290414:43
SushilKMnot a problem, next time i would keep it open to everyone, i though u were there14:43
SushilKMhowever I am in a linux box , (ubuntu preciseLY) :P14:45
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denis_makogonhub_cap, sorry possibly, that i could be absent at the meeting15:25
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denis_makogonguys, please vote for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60553/15:28
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Removed unused variable from code  https://review.openstack.org/6290416:41
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denis_makogoncp16net, thanks17:02
cp16netnp looked good17:03
denis_makogoncp16net, yup, looks good, because 1 line-patch17:03
cp16netyeah those i like :)17:03
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denis_makogonSushilKM, please remove -1 from requirements patch, your comment is not the reason for -117:12
denis_makogonSushilKM, i need that patch asap merged, to start working on trove heat resource and horizon dashaboard update17:13
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robertmyersdenis_makogon: do you really need 1.0.3? Horizon has been updated to work with >=1.0.017:15
robertmyersso 1.0.3 is valid17:15
denis_makogonrobertmyers, i need to cut v1.0.0 at all17:16
robertmyers1.0.3 is just typo fixes17:16
robertmyersI just don't see how this is blocking you17:16
denis_makogonrobertmyers, no, 1.0.3 includes datastores17:17
robertmyersI'm fine with updating it17:17
robertmyersdoes it?17:17
denis_makogonyes17:17
robertmyersI don't think it does17:17
denis_makogonthat is why i'm blocked17:17
denis_makogonSushilKM, period in the end - current version in requirements 1.0.0.  is the end of sentence17:18
hub_capdenis_makogon: thats ok, ill still talk about your blueprint to let everyone know and for them to add notes/questions17:18
robertmyersdenis_makogon: https://github.com/openstack/python-troveclient/releases/tag/1.0.317:18
robertmyersthat is before datastores17:18
denis_makogonhub_cap, that's so nice ^_^17:18
robertmyerswe need a new release 1.0.417:19
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SushilKM__and what about 1.0.3;17:19
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robertmyershub_cap: you probably need to cut a new version17:20
denis_makogonSushilKM: do you know how to write lists according to ISO 9001 ?17:20
denis_makogontopic:17:21
denis_makogon- ololol;17:21
denis_makogon- bkah;17:21
denis_makogon-end.17:21
hub_caprobertmyers: ya id like to make sure datastores is 100% and then we will17:21
SushilKMplease tell me denis_makogon17:21
denis_makogonhub_cap, agreed17:21
hub_capthere is a inflight review iirc17:21
robertmyershub_cap: that is fine with me17:22
robertmyersdenis_makogon: you should wait till then too17:22
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, ok17:22
denis_makogonhub_cap, about logging, i started ML, but forgot to add subject =/17:23
denis_makogondamn browser stacked ...17:23
hub_capdenis_makogon: onoez17:23
hub_capill find it and reply17:24
hub_capand add a subject17:24
hub_caphehe17:24
denis_makogonhub_cap, you could do that ?17:25
SushilKMit looks to be good with17:25
SushilKMtopic:17:25
denis_makogonhub_cap, well it would be greatest thing for today (after ruling my topic at meeting)17:25
SushilKM- ololol;17:25
SushilKM-bkah;17:25
SushilKM-end.17:25
SushilKMbut when u r ending ur sentence in a version number that does not luks precise17:25
SushilKMsentence ends in ....17:26
denis_makogonSushilKM, version is a text17:26
hub_capdenis_makogon: k17:26
denis_makogonSushilKM, try to parse 1.0.0 into a number or digit17:26
denis_makogonSushilKM, i bet it would fail17:26
denis_makogonthat is why version is a text, not number17:27
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openstackgerritGreg Hill proposed a change to openstack/trove: add support for working with pre-datastore instances  https://review.openstack.org/6203917:29
kevinconwaydenis_makogon: distutils has a version object that parses those and lets you do comparisons between them17:29
kevinconwaynot that i read anything about this conversation17:29
kevinconwayi just saw the bit about version numbers17:29
denis_makogonkevinconway, we are taking about this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60553/2 and SushilKM 's comment17:31
denis_makogonkevinconway, i'm trying to say, that his comment is not the reason for -1, tho17:31
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openstackgerritSteve Leon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adding number of CPU to flavor details  https://review.openstack.org/6274819:05
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hub_capgoin to see hobbit 2 tonight, ooooooh yea!19:26
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SushilKMhi hub_Cap19:27
SushilKMcan u see this one .... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62754/19:28
SnowDusthub_cap: is it the name of the structural engineer ;) or the movie ?19:28
hub_capSushilKM: yup19:29
hub_capSnowDust: lol19:29
SushilKMi wud say structurally engineered movie ;)19:29
SnowDustSushilKM u missed the context ... anyways ..19:30
SnowDusthub_cap <319:30
SushilKMoops19:30
SnowDustwishing u a gr8 christmas ahead19:30
SnowDusthave lots of fun ..19:30
SnowDustand do wear that cool cap :)19:31
SnowDusti wish i could steal LOL19:31
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hub_capSnowDust: lol no chance :)19:35
hub_capi wear it every day ;)19:35
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hub_capSushilKM the other day i had a structural engineer come to my house while i was talking to SnowDust :)19:36
SushilKMand the movie ......19:37
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hub_capim going to the movies tonight :)19:39
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SushilKMcooooooool :D19:42
SushilKMok, now i get how did i lose that, my internet connection was broken19:42
SushilKMin b/w19:42
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hub_caphehe SushilKM19:44
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greghillhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/62039/ - I think I adequately addressed the concerns from the review now.  +2?  pretty please?19:50
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robertmyersSlickNik: vipul: when you get a chance could you look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60358/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60626/20:33
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openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds non-volume-support to create server with heat  https://review.openstack.org/6298921:10
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SushilKMhub_cap, slicknik, vipul please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62989/21:14
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hub_capSushilKM u wont like me ;)21:20
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SushilKMi do hub_cap21:22
SushilKMcan we discuss ur comment21:22
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hub_capsure21:24
hub_capis vipul or SlickNik around as well? id like to get their opinion21:24
hub_capor amcrn?21:24
amcrnhola21:25
vipulsup21:25
hub_caplook @ SushilKM's review guys21:25
SushilKMour question's answer is that It is managed by heat template21:25
SushilKMThis code has been written to work from trove's side, that if volume_support is not there then please do not call cinder and proceed for rest, when using heat services.21:25
SushilKMcode executing for volume support part was always there ....21:26
vipulSo i think the reivew is about just updating the instance record21:26
vipulcurrently whether a volume gets created can be controleld by the template.. but the code always attempts to find the volume id21:27
hub_capbut thats a big bug21:28
hub_capif we are talking to heat and heat talks to cinder, why are we talking to cinder? if we want volume_id, we need to get it from heat21:28
SushilKMhub_cap, then mark bug as the critical one :)21:28
SushilKMjst thinking .....21:29
vipulyea, let's change the code to ask heat whether a volume was created.. if it was, only then update the instance record21:29
openstackgerritAndrey Shestakov proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Add support of neutron NICs  https://review.openstack.org/6148121:29
SushilKMbut that becomes a separate issue al-together, isn't it, to update that trove does not communicates to cinder21:31
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denis_makogonhi, i'm back21:35
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SnowDust:) wc denis21:35
amcrni see SushilKM's point, cinder prior to this patch-set was consulted for the state-of-the-union; the else clause merely constructs the volume_info without introducing another call to cinder21:36
kevinconwaylol, why do multiple denis join when you get on denis_makogon ? dmakogon_ ? dmakogon_ipod?21:36
denis_makogonkevinconway, office client was ghosted21:36
datsun180bi thought we just had three different guys named denis21:36
denis_makogonand he used hostname plus underscore21:36
datsun180bi'm on to your scheme21:36
denis_makogonSushilKM, are you talking about heat and trove ?21:37
amcrnso the patch-set doesn't exacerbate the situation any further, it merely addresses the updating of the instance record in the volume_support=False scenario21:37
amcrnalthough I do agree that cinder shouldn't be consulted outside of the scope of heat in a heat-initiated flow21:38
SushilKMyes @denis_makogon21:38
denis_makogoni thought we were using heat with all mandatory resources21:40
hub_capok so SushilKM amcrn https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/126237821:40
hub_capill accept this patch21:40
hub_capand we can track any other work via this21:40
denis_makogonhub_cap, but then we would get stack with ghosted volume21:41
denis_makogonhub_cap, it's also bad21:41
denis_makogonhub_cap, SushilKM patch doesn't covers whole case21:41
hub_capdenis_makogon: for sure it is bad21:42
hub_capdenis_makogon: his case is for volume support = false21:42
SushilKMthanks hub_cap21:42
hub_capif you woudl like to fix it fully, please assign this bug to you https://bugs.launchpad.net/trove/+bug/126237821:42
SushilKMfine hub_cap accepted the bug21:42
denis_makogonhub_cap, do we really need temporary incomplete fix ?21:42
SushilKMwe need it temporarily .....21:43
denis_makogonSushilKM, untill when &21:43
SushilKMthough the patchset i introduced has got the code added which does not speaks to cinder21:43
hub_capdenis_makogon: if they never enable volumes, its not a temporary fix for them21:43
SushilKMold code need is actually speaking to cinder21:43
hub_capits a permanent fix21:43
hub_capif you want to make the code more extensible and fix the bug w/ volumes enabled + heat, then i say go right ahead21:44
denis_makogonhub_cap, in this case we would came into template generation21:44
SushilKMfor CONF.trove_volume_support to be false , we need that code21:44
hub_capdenis_makogon: correct. we might need to actually use our jinja templates21:45
denis_makogonSushilKM, how about dealing with provisioneed assigned volume in stack ?21:45
hub_capno one is doing that yet denis_makogon21:45
hub_capso we dont worry about it21:45
hub_capwe fix the bug21:45
SnowDust:)21:45
hub_capther eis a bug, volume_support = true + heat21:45
hub_cap*there21:46
hub_capif someone uses that codepath, they are exercising the bug21:46
SushilKMdenis_makogon, i have written a specific case when we dont have a volume support21:46
hub_capevery bug does not require a data migration21:46
denis_makogonSushilKM, not at all21:46
hub_capSushilKM: does not use volume support so he doesnt have to worry about it ;)21:46
denis_makogonSushilKM, heat template contains volume resource, so when stack provisioned, you would have two resources: AWS Instance and Volume21:47
denis_makogonSushilKM, https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/templates/mysql/heat.template#L46-L5821:48
SushilKMtemplate is outside of trove code (externalized) so template could be edited without any code changes21:48
denis_makogonSushilKM, sorry, but sounds like poor argument. Until they are in codebase, we need to deal with it fully21:49
hub_capcough, cough, jinja templated heat resource21:49
hub_capdenis_makogon: we already have a path forward and SushilKM knows what to do21:50
hub_capthere is no argument21:50
SushilKMi think thats the purpose we have heat template outside trove code21:50
SushilKMso that we can manage heat templates without working with trove code21:50
SushilKMor else there is no purpose of having template externalized, if we want to get it edited by making changes in trove code, the heat template trove provides is a standard example21:51
denis_makogonwe need better plan for dealing with trove and heat problems21:53
denis_makogoni'll take care of it21:53
hub_capdenis_makogon: k21:54
denis_makogonhub_cap, does anyone have objections for logging stuff ?21:55
denis_makogonhub_cap, also, thanks again for help21:56
hub_capdenis_makogon: nope but there were many questions21:56
hub_capso hopefully they will reply to the miling list entry21:56
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denis_makogonhub_cap, have you found it ?(sorry for my dumbness with ML subject)21:57
hub_caphehe yes21:57
hub_capi just havent replied yet21:57
denis_makogonah,21:58
denis_makogonhub_cap, i hope this ML would get it's own subject =))21:58
hub_capdenis_makogon: i will make it "Delivering datastore logs to customers"21:59
denis_makogonhub_cap, as always <322:00
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denis_makogonhub_cap, what about review request ?22:04
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hub_capoh just that we dont need to put them in every meetin22:06
hub_capwe know we have reviews to look at :)22:06
hub_capunless of course, a review is relevant to a subject22:06
hub_capthen we can put it22:06
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hub_capbut just a big "please review these" at the end is not relevant22:06
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SushilKMhub_Cap can u see this one too small change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62754/22:10
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SushilKMvipul, slicknik review needed on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62724/22:12
SushilKM"Auston McReynolds" needed ur comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61948/22:14
hub_capamcrn: ^^22:14
SushilKMhub_cap do u mean Auston is amcrn22:15
amcrnplease refer to me by my god given irc name, not my american moniker ;)22:15
amcrnSushilKM: can you explain how trove-related logging can somehow be managed by nova? i'm not sure i follow.22:18
SushilKMits not trove related my point is about nova logs22:19
SushilKMi m just getting out the location nova logs generation from trove22:19
SushilKMthats the purpose of my patchset22:19
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SushilKMdoes that connects now @amcrn22:21
amcrni see. can you elaborate on "All other components are already doing this way"22:21
SushilKMyeah, i mean all other components like swift, cinder, trove too are doing this from their own conf files22:22
SushilKMlogging location22:22
amcrnyeah, it's a bit different due to redstack however22:23
SushilKMyah i saw that configuration,22:24
SushilKMi have just taken out the logging part22:24
SushilKMto free out the location22:24
SushilKMreport/logs22:24
SushilKMthats the sole purpose22:24
amcrni'm afraid i'm missing the value-add here, because this is fairly devstack-centric, and considering many use redstack to start/stop trove services, you'll still see tee'ing to TROVE_LOGDIR22:25
SushilKMyah, but trove logs are already switched off22:25
SnowDustamcrn :)22:25
SushilKMthey r no more generated in report/logs now22:25
SnowDustamarican moinker .. :)22:25
SushilKMand nova is too good for log management, where we can switch on/off the log in the destination we may need for the purpose22:26
SushilKMand devstack does it for its own purpose22:26
SushilKMwe too do not need any extra logs from nova only22:27
SushilKMcurrently we do not generate anything else at report/logs except for nova logs22:28
SushilKMwhen using trove-integration22:28
SlickNiksorry was afk for a bit. back now.22:29
SlickNiklooking at scrollback22:29
datsun180bI can't not see TROGDOR in TROVE_LOGDIR22:30
SlickNiklol22:30
SushilKMslicknik https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62989/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62724/22:30
SlickNikburninatin' the logfiles… :)22:30
datsun180bTROVE_LOGDIR was a man…no, not a man, he was a DIRECTORY!22:30
SushilKMwhats that TROGDOR  .....22:30
SlickNiktrogdoooor...22:31
datsun180bhe's a dragon from a cartoon22:31
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SushilKMhey hey hey22:31
SushilKMokies, that way ....22:31
SlickNikSushilKM: http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html22:31
amcrni think i understand your intention, i just believe you're missing a couple of touch-points. if i do a "redstack start", it'll hit https://github.com/openstack/trove-integration/blob/171c9e9b0a8985837cb38d7d27d8f56eeba58404/scripts/redstack#L550-L554, which tee's to TROVE_LOGDIR, the origin of which you haven't removed, and still defaults to reports/logs.22:32
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SushilKM@amcrn i was more confined with nova logs22:33
ashestakovSlickNik: vipul hub_cap grapex https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61481/ review pls22:33
amcrnoh, well i misunderstood your intention then, i see what you're attempting to do22:35
SushilKMso if u suggest i can help that out too... coz we have same functionality for trove too the logging into file22:35
SushilKMmy intention is just to get out nova logs22:35
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SushilKMand keep that location solely for trove's purpose22:36
SushilKMthats it22:36
SushilKMnothing more than trove logging22:36
SushilKMhow do u see that22:36
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amcrni see no reason why trove should be directing how nova logs, or where it logs to, so i've +1'd it. i imagine if there's some historical reason why it was added, someone will chime in ;)22:38
SushilKMhub_cap, slicknik https://review.openstack.org/6194822:38
SushilKMamcrn is fine with that22:38
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denis_makogonso, i'm done for today, goodnight22:42
SushilKMdenis whats the localtime at ur place22:43
SlickNikSushilKM: Can you walk me through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62989/ ?22:44
SnowDustdenis_makogon .. good night !22:45
hub_capSlickNik: just so u know, since u do some bug/bp triage w/ me too22:45
SnowDustSlickNik .. tempest .. news any ?22:45
hub_capbugs do _not_ need milestone set22:45
hub_capusers cant even set their bug's milestone22:45
SlickNikhub_cap: oh, good to know. So it's only for bps?22:45
hub_capblueprints, however, a user has the ability to change the milestone22:45
SlickNikgotcha22:46
hub_capso we should set them as (needs information, discussion., etc)22:46
hub_capand once someone starts working on it we'd expect it to have a milestone22:46
SushilKMslicknik, the patchset 62989 is for when heat provisions the resources and we have volume support switched off22:46
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SushilKMso heat will do its tasks22:46
hub_capSlickNik: im going to start -1'ing reviews on blueprints that dont have milestone's set, ok22:46
SlickNikhub_cap: roger that. Sounds good.22:47
SlickNikI'll do the same.22:47
SushilKMbut still trove code wud get to cinder to ask for status22:47
SushilKMwhere it would fail22:47
SushilKMso I have just switched off that part when trove_volume_support is false22:47
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SlickNikSushilKM: I'm confused as to why we're using cinder there in the first place? Shouldn't the volume creation be handled by the heat template?22:47
SushilKMdid u get that @slicknik22:47
SushilKMyeah and thats the separate bug, hub_cap has created one for that22:48
SlickNikSushilKM: sure, I got that part. What's the other bug?22:48
hub_caphehe SlickNik22:48
hub_capthat _is_ the other bug SlickNik22:48
hub_capapparently this usecase is for volume_support = false22:48
hub_capso the larger bug is not scoped for this22:48
SlickNikI see22:48
hub_capme personally, id just have em fix it all at once22:49
hub_capbut its not 100% necessary22:49
hub_capto get this fix in22:49
hub_capand i think denis_makogon is going to spearhead the other stuff22:49
SlickNikThat sounds okay, then.22:50
SushilKM:)22:50
SlickNikJust wanted to make sure we're not doing extra work in the TaskManager when we should be doing it in the HeatTemplate.22:50
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SushilKMcorrect @slicknik22:50
denis_makogonSlickNik, unfortunately we came into template generation or multiple templates22:51
denis_makogonexample: no-volume.heat.template22:51
hub_captemplate generation ;)22:51
openstackgerritSushil Kumar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Corrects the help message for trove_volume_support  https://review.openstack.org/6301022:52
denis_makogonhub_cap, is it better than multiple templates ?22:52
hub_capi think so22:53
denis_makogonhub_cap, multiple templates would keep each template independent from anything22:53
hub_capif u want to update the template cuz u want ot change, say, whether to add a security group, you would have to remember to edit the proper template22:53
hub_capit seems like it can be very error prone22:53
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denis_makogonhub_cap, but it would be easy to implement and i could deal also with pure meaningful documentation for such case22:55
denis_makogonhub_cap, let me describe it in ML (tomorrow)22:56
hub_capi seriously doubt it would be easier to implement than passing down 1 parameter to the jinja template and a jinja if-stmt22:56
hub_capbut sure, describe it tomorrow and ill reply ;)22:56
denis_makogonhub_cap, about extending template: we would need paremeter in template, resource description22:57
denis_makogonit would be easy to tell: if no volume, then load template without volume resource in it22:58
hub_capno, in jinja22:58
hub_capyou wouldnt need parameter in the heat template22:59
hub_capthis woudl be to render the heat template22:59
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hub_capiirc, you cannot conditionally put large pieces (like the resouces for mounting a provisioning a cinder volume) in a heat resource22:59
hub_capso either 1) u use jinja, like we already do, to edit the resource22:59
hub_capor 2) u have a ton of templates22:59
hub_capfor every flag'd value22:59
hub_caponce we put dns in there, u will have one for adding dns23:00
hub_capthen u will have a template for23:00
hub_capyes dns, no volume23:00
denis_makogoni got you23:00
hub_capthen u get a third thing, and the ammt of templates you get grows much larger23:00
hub_capX+Y-Z, X+Y+Z, X-Y+Z, X-Y-Z *not done but all would be template files*23:01
hub_capwhere X, Y, Z = features requiring us to manipulate (add / remove) resources outside of heat itself23:01
denis_makogonhub_cap, i got you, my idea is bad for such cases23:01
hub_capor, we add somethign to heat that allows23:01
hub_capfor what we are talking about23:01
hub_capmaybe the HOT stuff, when its solid, will have this available23:01
denis_makogonuntil that - jinja our everything23:02
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denis_makogonso, now i'm totally out =)))23:03
hub_capPEACE denis_makogon!!!!23:04
hub_caphave a good evening23:04
denis_makogonhub_cap, thanks for very productive chatting and help with meeting topic, <#23:04
denis_makogon<323:04
denis_makogonhub_cap, have a good day too23:04
hub_capnp denis_makogon thx23:04
hub_capits date night tonight, i will have a good day! woohoo!!!!23:05
* hub_cap does a dance23:05
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Adds non-volume-support to create server with heat  https://review.openstack.org/6298923:05
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openstackgerritConrad Weidenkeller proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Add support for kick-starting new datastores  https://review.openstack.org/5778023:10
hub_capcweid: can u add "co-authored-by" or soemthing like that to yoru commit23:11
hub_caplet me find it23:11
hub_capCo-Authored-By: name <name@example.com>23:11
openstackgerritConrad Weidenkeller proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Add support for kick-starting new datastores  https://review.openstack.org/5778023:13
cweiddone and done23:13
cweidhub_cap: ^23:13
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Corrects the help message for trove_volume_support  https://review.openstack.org/6301023:18
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hub_capok cu everyone23:46
hub_capill be sure to emit hobbit spoilers all day tomorrow23:46
greghillthe hobbit survives!!!23:47
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