Tuesday, 2014-04-08

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hub_capsweet we are back in bizness01:33
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Fix internal error generated from config-detach  https://review.openstack.org/8543002:56
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Changes Volume Prefix From mysql To datastore  https://review.openstack.org/7182902:56
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Start using oslosphinx theme for docs  https://review.openstack.org/8304904:03
openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/python-troveclient: Fix build_sphinx setup target  https://review.openstack.org/8291404:03
openstackgerritShalini khandelwal proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: Added datastore type in test.conf  https://review.openstack.org/8496404:12
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openstackgerritAuston McReynolds proposed a change to openstack/trove-integration: MySQL 5.6 disk-image-builder element  https://review.openstack.org/7941305:27
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SnowDustneed reviews plz : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80061/06:22
openstackgerritJenkins proposed a change to openstack/trove: Imported Translations from Transifex  https://review.openstack.org/8272106:24
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openstackgerritamrith proposed a change to openstack/trove: Correct the command to stop cassandra server  https://review.openstack.org/8208006:29
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Removes volumes redefinition in fake nova_client  https://review.openstack.org/8053607:31
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SnowDustneed reviews plz : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80061/13:28
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openstackgerritDaniel Salinas proposed a change to openstack/python-troveclient: Add instance_metadata functionality to the trove python library  https://review.openstack.org/8212413:41
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openstackgerritshivam shukla proposed a change to openstack/trove: Tests for heat based instance workflow  https://review.openstack.org/6649916:58
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openstackgerritAnna Shen proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add integration test for Neutron support  https://review.openstack.org/8267317:33
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cp16netdenis_makogon: i see you updated the next meeting...17:44
denis_makogoncp16net, yup, me fast as bolt =)17:45
cp16netdenis_makogon: we had said that it was a queue for the BPs17:45
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denis_makogoncp16net, yes, you can put your BPs on top of mines17:46
cp16netdenis_makogon: i just dont want mine skipped again.. :-/17:46
cp16netone of the them will have more of a convo than the other i think17:47
denis_makogoncp16net, yes, that's why i suggesting you to put your on top17:47
denis_makogoncp16net, same as you, i don't like to see some of my topic being skipped, so, your BPs have higher priority17:48
denis_makogoncp16net, feel free to move mine17:48
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cp16netok17:49
denis_makogonamcrn, ping17:55
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denis_makogonamcrn, saw your comment at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/71040, your suggestion is fine, but this kind of the change deservers it's own patchset, but my patch follows another goal - tracking security groups and rules in them17:57
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denis_makogonSlickNik, ping18:12
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, ping18:13
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, SlickNik, hope you there, somewhere, please suggest the appropriate name for the ex-"Point in time recovery", i'd be glad to rename it to something more meaningful.18:16
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robertmyersdenis_makogon: I'm not sure, I'm basically against that BP because I think it is unnecessary duplication and complicating the api18:23
robertmyersI am for point in time recovery18:24
robertmyersand for volume snapshots18:24
robertmyersI'm firmly against same host restore18:24
robertmyersI think it is too dangerous18:25
denis_makogonrobertmyers, how do you see the point in time recovery18:25
robertmyersBasically an api that takes an instance and a datetime and finds the closest backup18:25
robertmyersand restores that18:25
robertmyersto a new instance18:26
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robertmyersoptionally with some binlog magic to roll the db forward or backward18:26
denis_makogonrobertmyers, it takes the already existed instance ?18:28
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robertmyersdenis_makogon: yes the backups have the instance id stored in them. So you could restore the most recent backup (up to the datetime) for that instance18:30
denis_makogonrobertmyers, i think it's possible18:30
jamielennoxhey guys, can i get someone to do the final +2 on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83270/ - sorry to keep nagging but it's blocking a change around the auth_token middleware in gate18:30
denis_makogonrobertmyers, unfortunately, we had no automated tasks, so the closest18:31
robertmyersdenis_makogon: we were working on those... then we got pulled away18:32
denis_makogonbackup can be found within all backups18:32
robertmyersshould get back on that soon18:32
denis_makogonso, robertmyers, why is it valid to restore a new instance instead of current ?18:32
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robertmyerscause the restore destroys all the data on instance18:33
robertmyersso it is too dangerous of an api call to screw up18:33
robertmyersbad backup or corrupted backup, boom instance toast18:34
robertmyersor just any random error during restore18:34
denis_makogonso, after the recovery, user will have two instances or one ?18:34
robertmyerstwo18:34
robertmyersthat is the only safe way to restore18:35
denis_makogonand this is valid, isn't it ?18:35
robertmyersyes18:35
denis_makogoni think i'll revisit my BP and update it, with your thoughts, thanks for the help18:36
robertmyerswe also wanted to avoid having the user have extra disk space on the instance to store backups which is why we stream to swift18:36
robertmyersso they could have a almost full disk and the restore could fail if we just move files around18:37
denis_makogonrobertmyers, one question, how much disk space would new instance have, same as previous ?18:38
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, it seems that yes.18:41
robertmyersyeah, that is a tough one18:41
robertmyersI want to say yes, but maybe it should deafult to the same size18:42
robertmyersthey may want bigger or smaller for some valid reason18:42
robertmyerssmaller may fail, unless they know they were only using 10GB of a 100GB volume18:43
robertmyersso I wouldn't want it to force them to reuse the big size18:43
denis_makogonrobertmyers, as for me i see the validation that checks if the instance volume has enough space to carry the backup18:44
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robertmyersyeah, so the backup stores the size, which is the space used before the backup was run18:44
robertmyersso we culd use that18:44
robertmyersfor the minimum18:45
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denis_makogonso, validation will check if the volume at least has enough space for the backup18:45
robertmyersalthough I'm not sure how that works for people who are not using cinder18:45
robertmyersyes18:45
robertmyersor I guess the flavor18:46
denis_makogonrobertmyers, yes18:46
denis_makogonfor non-cinder instances, we need to check flavor18:46
robertmyersI think that operation could just be a bug in the existing restore logic18:46
robertmyersno need for BP18:46
denis_makogoni can handle it18:47
robertmyerscool18:47
denis_makogonfor volumes and flavors18:47
denis_makogonit's gonna be peace of cake18:47
robertmyershaha18:48
robertmyersfamous last works18:48
robertmyerswords18:48
denis_makogonhaha18:48
robertmyersbut yeah, that shouldn't be too hard18:48
denis_makogonand then Collider exploded18:49
robertmyerslol18:49
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, bug reported, can we go back to the recovery process18:56
denis_makogon?18:56
denis_makogonso, the flow looks like:18:56
denis_makogon1. user asks API to recover the instance. Passing the actual instance and point in time18:57
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robertmyersgood so far18:58
denis_makogon2. API service casts call to the taskmanager, which creates the new instance with same(almost all) attributes and applies the backup to it18:58
denis_makogon3. In the end user will have two instances18:59
robertmyerslooks great18:59
denis_makogonwith allmost the same data(depends on when backup last backup was taken)18:59
robertmyersyes, and whether they have been running incrementals each hour etc.19:00
denis_makogonit'll be better to start with full backups, and then with incrementals19:00
robertmyerswell the restore for incrementals handles that19:01
denis_makogonrobertmyers, or incremental runner will do the all magic ?19:01
robertmyersdenis_makogon: yup19:01
robertmyersit does a recursive restore19:01
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, if that's the use case, no matter what kind of the backups were taken19:02
robertmyersyeah, that was the plan for it to 'just work'19:02
denis_makogonrobertmyers, does incremental backup model stores its size or the global size ?19:02
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robertmyersglobal size19:03
robertmyersthey are the same model actually, just a incremental has a parent19:03
denis_makogonrobertmyers, ok, validation will work even with this19:04
robertmyersyes it should19:04
robertmyersI have to run, but if you update the BP like that, I'll +119:05
denis_makogonrobertmyers, so, each model for the incremental backup has no(almost) differences between parent and child backup, right ?19:05
denis_makogonrobertmyers, oh, ok, cu later19:05
robertmyersdenis_makogon: I'll be back in a bit, but yes the db stores the same data more or less19:06
denis_makogonrobertmyers, ping me when you'll be around19:06
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openstackgerritViswa Vutharkar proposed a change to openstack/trove: Adds backup/restore support for mongodb  https://review.openstack.org/7833919:38
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amcrnjamielennox: got it, thank you for your patience (apologies for the wait)19:41
jamielennoxamcrn: that's ok, my timezone is different to everyone else so i just have to pick my moments to come in and hassle people19:42
jamielennoxamcrn: thanks for that19:42
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denis_makogonamcrn, please, can you review this one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77899/ ?19:45
amcrndenis_makogon: it's on the list19:48
denis_makogonamcrn, cool =)19:48
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robertmyersdenis_makogon: I'm back20:24
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denis_makogonrobertmyers, cool, i logged our chat, hope, i'll finish with the BP tomorrow, would you have some time to review it ?20:30
robertmyersdenis_makogon: sure, how about after the meeting?20:31
robertmyersunless you finish tonight then I can take a look in the moring20:32
denis_makogonrobertmyers, i'll update the BP while, i suppose, you would sleep =)20:32
denis_makogonrobertmyers, lets do that after the meeting20:32
robertmyershaha cool20:32
robertmyersI'll ping you tomorrow20:33
denis_makogonrobertmyers, okay, thanks for the help =))20:37
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robertmyersno problem20:42
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove pep8, pyflakes and flake8 from test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8615020:46
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openstackgerritJoe Gordon proposed a change to openstack/trove: Remove pep8, pyflakes and flake8 from test-requirements  https://review.openstack.org/8615020:51
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openstackgerritAnna Shen proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add integration test for Neutron support  https://review.openstack.org/8267321:01
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openstackgerritAnna Shen proposed a change to openstack/trove: Add integration test for Neutron support  https://review.openstack.org/8267321:23
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openstackgerritA change was merged to openstack/trove: Don't specify admin_token in paste config  https://review.openstack.org/8327022:10
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