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| SnowDust | denis_makogon: did not get your review comments | 08:05 |
| SnowDust | denis_makogon: there ? | 08:05 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, you need to update commit message | 08:06 |
| SnowDust | what | 08:06 |
| SnowDust | did u read it full | 08:06 |
| SnowDust | i said .. taskmanager.conf and similar config files | 08:06 |
| SnowDust | which are loaded from command line | 08:07 |
| SnowDust | that explains all the services which load their own configs | 08:07 |
| SnowDust | :) | 08:07 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, please reflect all config files | 08:07 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, this options are required by the api service and taskmanager | 08:07 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, no need to say "similar", just list them all, there are only two services that requires this parameters | 08:08 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, also, update the trove.conf.sample and taskmanger.sample | 08:08 |
| SnowDust | what to update ?? | 08:08 |
| SnowDust | these options are extra options and have defaults there | 08:08 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, because it's necassery to let all deployers know what they can write in the configs | 08:08 |
| SnowDust | denis_makogon, i suppose there is a documentation team working on the Q/A thing | 08:09 |
| SnowDust | for every kind of audience | 08:09 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, so what? It should be done | 08:09 |
| SnowDust | and the IRC is a good place to start for everyone | 08:09 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, IRC is for devs. mostly | 08:09 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, users are using openstack-community and the openstack-users | 08:10 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, so, please do this, it's not so hard to update sample files | 08:10 |
| SnowDust | yeah so open that channel as well and be ready to answer who hits openstack-users :) | 08:10 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, it's not the channel | 08:11 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, it's mailing list | 08:11 |
| SnowDust | yeah gr8 | 08:11 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, please do this | 08:11 |
| SnowDust | ok, but its not any kind of improvement. | 08:12 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, patch should reflect all changes, you added the config attr, to which service it belongs? You should update sample configs and reflect it in the commit message | 08:12 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, basically it should've been done from the beggining | 08:13 |
| SnowDust | denis_makogon, the config param name is self explainatory .. custom_datastore_opts | 08:13 |
| SnowDust | but ok .. will do | 08:14 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, deployers are not digging into the code to see what each attr means | 08:14 |
| SnowDust | deployers do have the help to read from | 08:14 |
| SnowDust | and i did put the help | 08:14 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, it's the code, it should be in the sample config | 08:15 |
| SnowDust | :D | 08:15 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, are there something funny in everything i said ? | 08:15 |
| SnowDust | denis_makgon, no comments ! | 08:16 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, ok, so, please do what i suggested because its required thing | 08:18 |
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| SnowDust | denis_makogon, updating ! thanks ! | 08:19 |
| denis_makogon | SnowDust, you're welcome | 08:19 |
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| amrith | denis_makogon: had a couple of questions for you on 86300 ... thanks! | 12:14 |
| amrith | you should have email. | 12:14 |
| amrith | thx | 12:14 |
| amrith | vipul, hub_cap: I plagerized one of your slides from percona live at a presentation I did yesterday. girls went wild when I showed that slide. I took all the credit for it. Sorry. | 12:16 |
| amrith | also patrick, was your slide too ;) | 12:16 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, i saw your comments | 12:35 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, you should learn how OpenStack exceptions are rendered | 12:36 |
| SnowDust | amrith, hi | 12:39 |
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| amrith | denis_makogon: if that's the only thing I have to learn then I'm about 20 minutes from omniscient. But since you know how exceptions work, you must know everything there is to know ;) I bow to you. | 13:46 |
| amrith | snowdust: hello | 13:46 |
| SnowDust | hi amrith | 13:47 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, take a loot at https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/common/exception.py | 13:47 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, and https://github.com/openstack/trove/blob/master/trove/openstack/common/exception.py | 13:47 |
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| SnowDust | loot :D | 13:48 |
| amrith | ok, I looked at it. It looked at me. help me here, what am I looking at/for? | 13:48 |
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| denis_makogon | amrith, i'm showing how the rendering process of the exceptions are working | 13:52 |
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| amrith | so denis_makogon, not knowing about python exceptions or trove or openstack or a whole bunch of other things for that matter, my question to you is this ... | 13:55 |
| amrith | why does your code have an exception with a message and no parameters | 13:55 |
| amrith | but an augmentation in models.py? | 13:55 |
| amrith | the others who wrote exceptions.py stuff probably had a reason for doing things the way they did | 13:55 |
| denis_makogon | amrith, because it look more clean | 13:55 |
| amrith | which looks more clean? | 13:55 |
| amrith | So, I don't know about clean or dirty | 13:56 |
| amrith | but I like templates and patterns | 13:56 |
| amrith | and conventions | 13:56 |
| amrith | and the convention, as best as I can tell, without knowing as much about python exceptions as you no doubt do, is that you put parameters in the message as part of exceptions.py | 13:56 |
| denis_makogon | it looks more clean because you're directly seeing what kind of messages you are throwing | 13:56 |
| amrith | but you don't? | 13:56 |
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| hub_cap | denis_makogon: what youre doing is wrong | 13:57 |
| amrith | so, apart from the fact that you aren't educating me about exceptions, you are also telling me to learn something that 403 lines of code above yours are doing differently | 13:57 |
| hub_cap | the default message in the exception should contain th emessage in the models.py | 13:57 |
| amrith | what I'm doing is wrong? what is that | 13:57 |
| hub_cap | not u amrith, denis_makogons code is wrong | 13:58 |
| hub_cap | his BackupIsTooLarge sholud have the parameters in it | 13:58 |
| hub_cap | like _alllllll_ the other messages do | 13:58 |
| amrith | hub_cap: how can that be, I don't know about exceptions (as I was just told) | 13:58 |
| amrith | but denis_makogon does | 13:58 |
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| amrith | so in agreeing with me, do you confess to not knowing about exceptions as well? (trick quesiton) | 13:58 |
| hub_cap | amrith: im assuming by your coyness that you are telling me that you and i are in agreement | 13:58 |
| amrith | coyness? I speak in all earnestness oh wise ones ;) (yes) | 13:59 |
| hub_cap | :P | 13:59 |
| amrith | where the heck does an open source community go when one person tells another person that he or she should "learn about exceptions" | 13:59 |
| hub_cap | if you look _right above_ BackupIsTooLarge, you see ConfigurationParameterDeleted | 13:59 |
| amrith | the toilet is my first thought | 13:59 |
| hub_cap | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/86300/6/trove/common/exception.py | 13:59 |
| amrith | but be that as it might | 13:59 |
| hub_cap | lol amrith | 14:00 |
| hub_cap | it containes message = _("%(parameter_name)s parameter can no longer be " | 14:00 |
| hub_cap | (Draft) | 14:00 |
| hub_cap | sorry fro the second paste line | 14:00 |
| esp | dudes it’s early… | 14:01 |
| hub_cap | and for some _unknown_ reason, denis_makogon is overriding the message in BackupIsToLarge | 14:01 |
| hub_cap | despite the fact that he wrote the exception and message in this commit | 14:01 |
| amrith | because it is cleaner | 14:01 |
| hub_cap | and its the only place its used | 14:01 |
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| hub_cap | there is NOTHING clean about not using the message in the only place you raise the exception | 14:02 |
| hub_cap | it makes no sense | 14:02 |
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| hub_cap | put the msg thats in 630 into the defaul tmsg | 14:02 |
| hub_cap | good job denis_makogon | 14:02 |
| hub_cap | now its correct | 14:02 |
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| hub_cap | amrith: thx for your opinion / help :) | 14:02 |
| hub_cap | now _thats_ cleaner, from like 25 to 14 lines commit difference | 14:03 |
| hub_cap | thats how u do it | 14:03 |
| * hub_cap dissapears | 14:03 | |
| isviridov | SlickNik, | 14:11 |
| isviridov | :)) | 14:11 |
| isviridov | Hi guys | 14:11 |
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| hub_cap | hi isviridov welcome | 14:13 |
| denis_makogon | isviridov, what's up | 14:15 |
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| SnowDust | hello all can u give me a review on this : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80061/ | 14:18 |
| amrith | SnowDust: thanks for the delta, reading 80061 now. | 14:20 |
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| isviridov | hub_cap, denis_makogon just miss you ) | 14:22 |
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| hub_cap | isviridov: right?? u going ot be in atl? | 14:23 |
| hub_cap | ill have to don my Party hat again | 14:23 |
| SnowDust | <3 the hub_cap hat ! | 14:24 |
| hub_cap | SnowDust: :) | 14:24 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, SlickNik have you seen this - 14:16:28 'pyflakes' is not a global requirement but it should be,something went wrong | 14:24 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, it breaks our gate | 14:25 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: can u show a link? thats odd | 14:25 |
| isviridov | hub_cap, I'll be there :) | 14:25 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, https://rdjenkins.dyndns.org/job/Trove-Gate/3196/console | 14:25 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, timestamp 14:16:28 | 14:26 |
| grapex | Hi everyone. There's a huge meeting at Rax today. Most of us will be out all day. | 14:26 |
| isviridov | hub_cap, are you coming with family? | 14:26 |
| hub_cap | isviridov: heeh u know me well | 14:26 |
| hub_cap | i am not | 14:26 |
| hub_cap | they are staying about 3 hr away | 14:26 |
| hub_cap | so ill be at the hotel and itll be PAAAAAARTY TIME | 14:26 |
| isviridov | And a loooot of redbull | 14:27 |
| hub_cap | :D | 14:27 |
| hub_cap | isviridov: u know me well ;) | 14:28 |
| amrith | hub_cap: do people here know that you got much "love" from the moving crew at Percona Live about your hat? That was the most asked question at our BOF, where did you get the hat? | 14:28 |
| isviridov | everybody knows you as a guy in jaket, strange bright hat and redbull just running around and smoking | 14:29 |
| hub_cap | isviridov: it will be too hot for the jacket | 14:29 |
| hub_cap | itll be hoodie | 14:29 |
| hub_cap | amrith: yes its always the topic of discussion :) | 14:29 |
| hub_cap | oh yea i forgot about that tho amrith hahah | 14:29 |
| amrith | so, there's hub_cap running out of the room after the exhibit hall closed. the moving crew is furiously tearing the place apart. hub_cap and I are leaving the hall and we are pursued by a fork-lift truck with a driver gesticulating wildly at us. he carreens to a stop and asks hub_cap: "yo man, wheredya get the hat" ;) | 14:31 |
| hub_cap | :P | 14:31 |
| isviridov | )))) | 14:31 |
| hub_cap | ok /me srsly dissapears to admin my system | 14:32 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i bet you still there | 14:39 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i've got one question | 14:39 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: ;) | 14:39 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, it's about replication | 14:39 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, as i remember, dougshelley66 picked the use case series A | 14:40 |
| hub_cap | umm i might not be the best to answer it | 14:40 |
| hub_cap | yes it was a prerequisite to the rest of the code | 14:40 |
| hub_cap | iirc | 14:40 |
| hub_cap | so it would be hard/impossible to start on the harder stuff w/o the stuff dougshelley66 and co are working on | 14:40 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, is it possible to sign up for the use case series B ? | 14:41 |
| hub_cap | but id talk to him about the details on it | 14:41 |
| hub_cap | i think thats too far out | 14:41 |
| hub_cap | no one should be working on B yet | 14:41 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, i'm working on analyze of the community use cases and i see some tasks that can be done in parallel | 14:41 |
| hub_cap | but dougshelley66 / amrith can tell me im dumb | 14:41 |
| hub_cap | denis_makogon: work w/ amrith dougshelley66 | 14:42 |
| hub_cap | i will not answer that question because i cant | 14:42 |
| hub_cap | they are doing the work | 14:42 |
| dougshelley66 | hub_cap you certainly aren't dumb and what you said above makes sense | 14:42 |
| imsplitbit | well that has no real bearing on whether or not he's dumb | 14:42 |
| imsplitbit | :) | 14:42 |
| hub_cap | imsplitbit: ++ | 14:42 |
| denis_makogon | dougshelley66, as i remember you said that use cases series A was spread between your team, right ? | 14:43 |
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| imsplitbit | I've got good progress on the topology api | 14:44 |
| imsplitbit | should have something usable but not hooked into the instance object by mondayish | 14:44 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, amrith, dougshelley66, i want to take part in implementing use case series B, unless there's something to do in A series | 14:44 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, dougshelley66 i submitted the design session related to deployment strategy http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/278 | 14:45 |
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| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, dougshelley66, if noone minds i want to take it and write the most awesome spec | 14:46 |
| imsplitbit | spec for what? | 14:46 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, cross-datacenter VM deployment | 14:46 |
| imsplitbit | oh for your session? | 14:47 |
| imsplitbit | or for replication? | 14:47 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, for replication/clustering | 14:47 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, even more, it'll work with single instances | 14:47 |
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| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, for the summit i'll have small draft about this feature | 14:49 |
| imsplitbit | kk | 14:50 |
| denis_makogon | imsplitbit, cool | 14:50 |
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| denis_makogon | dougshelley66, are you don't mid ? | 14:50 |
| denis_makogon | *mind | 14:51 |
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| dougshelley66 | denis_makogon i'm not completely clear on what you are proposiing. We already have multiple BPs specs on clustering and replication. I believe that amcrn is moving ahead with some of the initial clustering work | 14:52 |
| denis_makogon | dougshelley66, i'm saying that i'll take the cross-datacenter deployment feature (Community use case series B. MultiZone Disaster Recovery. 2. Some mechanism should exist where cloud administrator can set up "zone configuration" so that the user can simply select "MultiZone DR" and Trove will know where to put both the master and the slave.) | 14:53 |
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| denis_makogon | also, i looked through the all chat/meeting logs and didn't saw when does the community spread the tasks between the contributors, am i missing something | 14:55 |
| denis_makogon | ? | 14:55 |
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| dougshelley66 | denis_makogon i have no idea if you are missing something. Seems reasonable that we talk about this at design summit. I was going to put up a session on post-v1 replication work | 14:59 |
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| imsplitbit | dougshelley66: I'm so there! | 15:02 |
| imsplitbit | I loves me some replication and clustering | 15:03 |
| denis_makogon | dougshelley66, so, i also have something to say about replication and clustering | 15:04 |
| denis_makogon | i hope i'll have a chance to start one of the design sessions | 15:05 |
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| hub_cap | denis_makogon: why do u have to _start_ it to say what u want? | 15:06 |
| hub_cap | teh design summits are informal | 15:06 |
| hub_cap | there are no slides | 15:06 |
| hub_cap | we do not present | 15:06 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, so, how are they going ? | 15:07 |
| hub_cap | we discuss the topics on the ethrpad | 15:07 |
| hub_cap | and discuss issues | 15:07 |
| hub_cap | and write up blueprints and such | 15:07 |
| hub_cap | we do not need any formal slides | 15:07 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, ok | 15:07 |
| hub_cap | talk to isviridov, he went to a bunch of them, he can tell u about them in detail | 15:08 |
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| denis_makogon | hub_cap, thanks | 15:10 |
| hub_cap | npnp | 15:12 |
| denis_makogon | hub_cap, do core plan to vote for the sessions or community plan to discuss all submitter sessions ? | 15:12 |
| hub_cap | ptl chooses sessions | 15:12 |
| hub_cap | so thats SlickNik | 15:12 |
| hub_cap | no community discussion | 15:13 |
| hub_cap | core and ptl discuss but ptl is the decision maker | 15:13 |
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| denis_makogon | oh, i see | 15:16 |
| denis_makogon | cool | 15:16 |
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| annashen | denis_makogon: ping | 18:23 |
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| hub_cap | dude | 19:49 |
| hub_cap | gh lost its stylesheets | 19:49 |
| hub_cap | https://github.com/openstack/trove | 19:49 |
| hub_cap | HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHA | 19:49 |
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| esp | hub_cap: nice, launchpad was a little bit glitch earlier today too | 20:13 |
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| esp | sounds like a case of the heartbleed :) | 20:14 |
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| hub_cap | yup, systems restarting | 20:15 |
| hub_cap | scary that it took so long | 20:15 |
| esp | hub_cap: why are you scared, you’re from texas :) | 20:16 |
| hub_cap | lol | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | in texas we dont care about leaked passwords | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | is that the phrase? | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | :P | 20:17 |
| esp | haha | 20:17 |
| esp | yeah that’s what I’m talking about | 20:17 |
| hub_cap | lulz | 20:17 |
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| amcrn | all of my passwords are hunter2, so i'm safe | 20:28 |
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| hub_cap | all of mine are 12345 | 20:28 |
| hub_cap | or heartamc | 20:28 |
| hub_cap | cuz of the theaters of course | 20:28 |
| esp | lol | 20:28 |
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| amcrn | if you want an awful theatre experience, hop over to the mercado 20 down here hub_cap | 20:29 |
| amcrn | (amc mercado 20) | 20:30 |
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| hub_cap | amcrn: allz we have in berkeley are hip upscale theatres | 20:32 |
| hub_cap | that are built in 100+yr old buildings | 20:33 |
| hub_cap | the cal is SO cool | 20:33 |
| hub_cap | and its always playing movies that are "in select theatres" | 20:33 |
| amcrn | lucky :P | 20:33 |
| hub_cap | no joke dude its awesome | 20:35 |
| hub_cap | all 3 theatres in town, for some odd reason, are within 3 blocks of each other | 20:37 |
| hub_cap | i suspect cuz berkeleys downtown is like 10 blocks long lulz | 20:37 |
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| SnowDust | hello all plz review : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80061/ | 20:44 |
| SnowDust | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/80061/ is waiting longtime ... | 20:45 |
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| hub_cap | SnowDust: did we go over your datastore options in the blueprint review? | 20:46 |
| SnowDust | hub_cap yess .. it was approved by you before i3 | 20:47 |
| SnowDust | after a long discussion | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | so you are saying we went over it in the monday meeting | 20:47 |
| SnowDust | yes yes | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | ok, because i am against moving the code | 20:47 |
| hub_cap | fwiw, SlickNik was the approver | 20:47 |
| SnowDust | amcrn, SlickNik, vipul, | 20:48 |
| SnowDust | all were in there | 20:48 |
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| abramley | Amrith wants to know recommendations for a irc client on Android - any thoughts ? | 21:30 |
| hub_cap | hmmmmm | 21:30 |
| hub_cap | colloquy? | 21:31 |
| hub_cap | i know its on ios | 21:31 |
| hub_cap | tell him, instead, wait 30 minutes | 21:31 |
| abramley | I am on colloquy on iphone - didnt think it was on android | 21:31 |
| * hub_cap shrugs | 21:31 | |
| hub_cap | the last thing i need is irc on my phone hahaha | 21:31 |
| hub_cap | i just keep my irssi runnin on a server and connect to that | 21:32 |
| hub_cap | but again, not on my phone :) | 21:32 |
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| abramley | U connect to a svr frm ur ph? -amrith (who cant type on ios) | 21:33 |
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| hub_cap | i dont see why not.. | 21:33 |
| hub_cap | its ssh | 21:33 |
| hub_cap | im sure there are ssh apps | 21:33 |
| hub_cap | but again, i dont want that | 21:33 |
| hub_cap | personally | 21:33 |
| hub_cap | i only have about ~4 hrs of awakeness after i start my day before i sleep w/o a laptop in front of me | 21:34 |
| hub_cap | but irssi has a bunch of C-/M- things u need to do | 21:34 |
| hub_cap | so it might not be yer best bet | 21:34 |
| hub_cap | abramley: tell amrith to enjoy the few hours he has w/o irc | 21:35 |
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