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openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/trove: Use configured datastore on instance creation https://review.openstack.org/255428 | 18:31 |
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openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/trove: Use a specific network for the test https://review.openstack.org/255429 | 18:31 |
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openstackgerrit | mariam john proposed openstack/trove-specs: Enable CouchDB replication in Trove https://review.openstack.org/255437 | 18:47 |
openstackgerrit | mariam john proposed openstack/trove-specs: Enable CouchDB replication in Trove https://review.openstack.org/255437 | 18:49 |
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vgnbkr | OK, so I think you've now created a reasonable legal expectation for timely security updates to experimental datastores. Who is going to take on the job of monitoring every datastore to make sure that security patches are applied? | 19:04 |
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amrith | vgnbkr, isn't that up to someone posting a bug in LP? | 19:20 |
vgnbkr | amrith, I guess there are 2 issues: security bugs in Trove itself, and security issues in the underlying database which Trove needs to take steps to address. It's really the latter I was referring to above. The former is interesting, too - should someone enter a bug for a security fix, but not mark it as such, what would be the legal implications for the OpenStack foundation. I suppose that's even an issue for stable | 19:23 |
vgnbkr | datastores. | 19:23 |
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cp16net | vgnbkr: it could happen but in LP you can hide bugs | 19:26 |
vgnbkr | cp16net, I was thinking of something more like for some obscure datastore that few people use, someone notices a security problem, fixes it, but doesn't mark it as a "security" issue. Some other user suffers a major loss because of that security issue weeks after the patch was committed. They could argue that OpenStack knew of the issue, but didn't tell them that an important security fix was available. | 19:29 |
vgnbkr | I imagine that were the same thing to happen for mysql, it would be a widely known issue and be handled quickly and properly. | 19:30 |
cp16net | we should still take care in the bug reports such things | 19:31 |
vgnbkr | More likely, though, is that the vendor of a little used database issues a security fix to a database that requires a change in Trove code. If Trove says it will provide security fixes to all datastores, would it be reasonable to expect that changes based on vendor fixes should come in a timely manner? | 19:33 |
vgnbkr | If so, then a responsibility would exist to monitor all "supported" databases to ensure security fixes are detected and applied appropriately. | 19:34 |
cp16net | vgnbkr: i think thats a good point | 19:35 |
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cp16net | i think the best way to help in that reguard would be to have a liason from the trove team for each stable datastore | 19:35 |
vgnbkr | cp16net, yes, it might also be good to get the Foundation's input on such things. I assume they have a legal advisory of some sort. | 19:37 |
cp16net | there is the https://security.openstack.org/ | 19:37 |
vgnbkr | They might just say "don't worry about it". | 19:38 |
vgnbkr | I think that's more about what to do about security issues you know about. | 19:38 |
cp16net | i think the same sort of thing could apply for nova where they support all the hypervisors | 19:39 |
cp16net | but usually its not a code issue but the underlying technology used in 99% of the cases | 19:39 |
vgnbkr | Right, but it may be less of an issue there as I imagine all hypervisors have active proponents. Neutron may have similar issues with drivers for more obscure network hardware, though. | 19:40 |
cp16net | i think the same concern would apply | 19:42 |
cp16net | and from what i've gathered in the past issues are fixed as they are found | 19:44 |
cp16net | which i think is ok | 19:44 |
cp16net | vgnbkr: check this out https://security.openstack.org/vmt-process.html#incident-report-taxonomy | 19:53 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement user functions for Cassandra datastore https://review.openstack.org/206739 | 20:06 |
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amrith | cp16net, pmackinn, dougshelley66 ... you here? | 20:45 |
pmackinn | amrith, yes sir | 20:46 |
amrith | cp16net, I understand that you won't be able to make it to mid-cycle in raleigh. | 20:46 |
amrith | pmackinn and I just had a chat about this | 20:46 |
amrith | and ... SlickNik yt? | 20:46 |
amrith | so the two options we came up with were | 20:47 |
amrith | (a) have a good and reliable link into the meeting room, potentially for bluejeans, and | 20:47 |
amrith | (b) move the mid-cycle to someplace in Austin. | 20:47 |
pmackinn | like cp16net basement | 20:47 |
amrith | so, wanted to know whether we should even go the route of (b) where pmackinn would find a suitable redhat facility there ;) | 20:48 |
amrith | Red Hat | 20:48 |
amrith | sorry | 20:48 |
pmackinn | amrith, just checked, no "office" in austin | 20:48 |
amrith | Ok, so that cooked that. | 20:48 |
dougshelley66 | pmackinn can't you buy an austin based company before Feb? | 20:48 |
pmackinn | we've been eyeing dell | 20:48 |
pmackinn | passing around the (red) hat here | 20:49 |
dougshelley66 | dell might have an office in texas somewhere.... | 20:49 |
amrith | that would be good. they have offices in Austin. | 20:49 |
amrith | Can we count on you to deliver that by mid-cycle ;) | 20:49 |
pmackinn | let's tee up bluejeans just in case | 20:49 |
amrith | yes, cp16net was online a while ago | 20:50 |
amrith | lets plan for bluejeans unless he chimes in later with an alternative in austin. another consideration is that summit is also in austin (for what it is worth). | 20:50 |
amrith | SlickNik, cp16net ^^ | 20:51 |
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vgnbkr | cp16net, checked out that link you sent, but not sure what you wanted me to see. | 21:07 |
amrith | what one sees is in the eye of the beholder - deepak chopra | 21:08 |
amrith | #link http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/ | 21:08 |
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cp16net | yeah i'm here | 21:38 |
cp16net | catching up on the convo | 21:38 |
cp16net | yeah i think my plans to goto raleigh were over turned by the wife | 21:39 |
cp16net | shes due at the end of feb | 21:39 |
cp16net | so i cant be away near that time | 21:40 |
cp16net | bluejeans seems to work well for me | 21:42 |
cp16net | pmackinn: are you based out of the raleigh office? | 21:43 |
pmackinn | cp16net, yes | 21:43 |
cp16net | maybe we can test how well a bluejeans connection is there and how it would work before the time | 21:44 |
pmackinn | cp16net, meh, we use it throughout the company now for all conferencing...i don't anticipate issues | 21:44 |
cp16net | ah ok | 21:44 |
cp16net | sounds good | 21:44 |
cp16net | wasnt sure if you guys used something else | 21:45 |
cp16net | amrith: if the kid comes early i wont be available then | 21:46 |
pmackinn | cp16net, there's bluejeans app for ios and android...you can run but you can't hide | 21:47 |
pmackinn | we'll find you | 21:47 |
cp16net | i'll be on leave you cant find me | 21:48 |
cp16net | :-P | 21:48 |
cp16net | amrith: i'd ask you or SlickNik if you can help run it in that case | 21:48 |
cp16net | but i'll make up an agenda that we can loosely follow | 21:49 |
cp16net | like last time | 21:49 |
amrith | cp16net, will you be able to do bluejeans or some such? | 21:52 |
amrith | or on vacation ... | 21:52 |
amrith | ok, sorry, just read scrollback | 21:52 |
amrith | and yes, you answered the question. | 21:52 |
amrith | cp16net, pmackinn ... that's decided then. | 21:53 |
cp16net | ok great | 21:53 |
amrith | cp16net, np. we can figure out the logistics of how we run the show. Maybe we'll get a life-size photograph of you on a cutout or something ;) | 21:54 |
amrith | take care, have to head out now. | 21:54 |
cp16net | amrith: ok thanks | 21:54 |
cp16net | later | 21:54 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement Cassandra Configuration Groups https://review.openstack.org/206740 | 22:04 |
openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement user functions for Cassandra datastore https://review.openstack.org/206739 | 22:04 |
openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement user functions for Cassandra datastore https://review.openstack.org/206739 | 22:10 |
vipul | cp16net: end of feb eh? | 22:10 |
vipul | cp16net: we're beginning of march ;) | 22:11 |
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cp16net | vipul: exciting! :) | 22:14 |
cp16net | vipul: you are a stranger in here :-P | 22:14 |
vipul | cp16net: i'm always lurking though :) | 22:14 |
openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement Cassandra Configuration Groups https://review.openstack.org/206740 | 22:20 |
openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Implement user functions for Cassandra datastore https://review.openstack.org/206739 | 22:20 |
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openstackgerrit | Petr Malik proposed openstack/trove: Add backup & restore for Cassandra https://review.openstack.org/206751 | 23:28 |
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openstackgerrit | Luigi Toscano proposed openstack/trove-integration: Clean network keys in test config for Nova network https://review.openstack.org/255593 | 23:56 |
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