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| alexchadin | hi | 07:38 |
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| jed56 | hello | 07:39 |
| alexchadin | jed56: how are you? | 07:39 |
| jed56 | I'm doing well and you ? | 07:39 |
| danpawlik | hello guys | 07:39 |
| jed56 | hello danpawlik | 07:39 |
| alexchadin | jed56: thanks you for your review | 07:39 |
| alexchadin | danpawlik: hi | 07:40 |
| alexchadin | jed56: I'm fine | 07:40 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: I'm currently testing the apscheduler library | 07:40 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/watcher: Fix releasenotes generation https://review.openstack.org/329795 | 07:40 |
| alexchadin | jed56: what can you say about it? | 07:41 |
| AJaeger | acabot: tox -e releasenotes fails completely, I've fixed it for you ^ | 07:41 |
| AJaeger | acabot: without working releasenotes, the translation sync fails as well | 07:41 |
| acabot | AJaeger : ok let met see that | 07:42 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: it's seem that we can use https://github.com/agronholm/apscheduler/blob/master/examples/schedulers/background.py | 07:42 |
| jed56 | the same approach for schedule the audits | 07:42 |
| jed56 | we have to figure out what is the best scheduler for our use case | 07:44 |
| jed56 | tornado, gevent, etc | 07:45 |
| jed56 | do you want to take a look ? | 07:45 |
| alexchadin | jed56: I want to release support for rally asap, some unit tests left | 07:47 |
| alexchadin | jed56: why can't we just take apscheduler? | 07:47 |
| AJaeger | acabot: if you have questions about the change, just ask... | 07:49 |
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| alexchadin | jed56: you mean support of apscheduler internal classes? | 07:58 |
| alexchadin | jed56: like tornadoscheduler, geventscheduler | 07:59 |
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| jed56 | alexchadin: yes | 08:05 |
| jed56 | we should carefully select the best scheduler | 08:05 |
| alexchadin | jed56: do we use any of these frameworks? | 08:07 |
| jed56 | In watcher ? | 08:08 |
| alexchadin | yes | 08:08 |
| jed56 | no, I pretty sure that we are not using these frameworks | 08:09 |
| jed56 | I will test today these frameworks and i will let you the best one | 08:11 |
| alexchadin | jed56: doc of apscheduler says that we should use appropriate scheduler | 08:11 |
| alexchadin | https://apscheduler.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide.html#choosing-the-right-scheduler-job-stores-and-executors | 08:11 |
| alexchadin | sorry for my misunderstanding:) | 08:12 |
| alexchadin | but it seem that BackgroundScheduler is right choice for us, no? | 08:12 |
| jed56 | coffee break :) | 08:12 |
| alexchadin | regarding our stress discussion: take a look: http://people.seas.harvard.edu/~apw/stress/ | 08:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Andreas Jaeger proposed openstack/watcher: Use proper theme for release notes https://review.openstack.org/329816 | 08:13 |
| openstackgerrit | Edwin Zhai proposed openstack/watcher: Enable strategy parameters https://review.openstack.org/297556 | 08:15 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: we know the stress tool | 08:28 |
| jed56 | IMO, we will use https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/PerfKitBenchmarker | 08:29 |
| jed56 | The scope of the stress is only CPU | 08:29 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Fix releasenotes generation https://review.openstack.org/329795 | 08:38 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Pawlik proposed openstack/puppet-watcher: Implement api.pp https://review.openstack.org/329830 | 08:38 |
| AJaeger | watcher releasenotes are published now for the first time at http://docs.openstack.org/releasenotes/watcher/ | 08:55 |
| AJaeger | Now you only need to write some ;) | 08:56 |
| jed56 | AJaeger: great! Thanks a lot :) | 08:57 |
| acabot | AJaeger : thx ! | 08:58 |
| AJaeger | you're welcome | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/python-watcherclient: Updated CLI to display efficacy related fields https://review.openstack.org/320966 | 08:59 |
| AJaeger | have a great day... | 08:59 |
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| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Decoupled Goal from Strategy https://review.openstack.org/318175 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Added EfficacyIndicator model in DB https://review.openstack.org/318176 | 08:59 |
| jed56 | you too | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Added efficacy specification to /goals https://review.openstack.org/318177 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Added EfficacyIndicator object https://review.openstack.org/318178 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Added pre/post execution methods to strategies https://review.openstack.org/325212 | 08:59 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Added efficacy indicators to /action_plans https://review.openstack.org/318179 | 09:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher: Documentation on goal and efficacy https://review.openstack.org/319275 | 09:00 |
| openstackgerrit | Merged openstack/watcher-dashboard: Added efficacy-related fields to the dashboard https://review.openstack.org/325145 | 09:00 |
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| brunograz | Hi all | 09:38 |
| brunograz | I just noticed that some of my review code could not be merged | 09:39 |
| brunograz | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326519/ | 09:39 |
| brunograz | is there a way to solve this? | 09:40 |
| brunograz | I also created 2 more bugs regarding our strategy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1591901 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1591927 | 09:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1591901 in watcher "vm workload strategy does not change nova service state" [High,New] - Assigned to Jinquan Ni (ni-jinquan) | 09:41 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1591927 in watcher "Vm workload consolidation strategy tries to disable already disabled nova-compute services" [Wishlist,New] | 09:41 |
| brunograz | I'm just waiting until it gets triaged so I can strat working on them | 09:41 |
| jed56 | hello brunograz | 09:44 |
| jed56 | you should rebase your patchset | 09:44 |
| brunograz | hi jed56 | 09:45 |
| brunograz | is there a specific PS to use? | 09:45 |
| jed56 | what do you mean ? :) | 09:46 |
| brunograz | to rebase the code | 09:46 |
| jed56 | master | 09:46 |
| brunograz | I cannot rebase due merge conflicts | 09:48 |
| jed56 | You have to resolve the conflicts after you git rebase | 09:51 |
| jed56 | Git is telling you which files are causing the conflicts | 09:52 |
| brunograz | I guess it should be discussed in the meeting today | 10:01 |
| brunograz | because the latest version of the watcher-dashboard in the git repo has been updated 5 days ago and it implements the bug reported | 10:02 |
| brunograz | maybe we should change it status to 'Invalid' | 10:02 |
| jed56 | brunograz: ah, this is maybe vincentfrancoise who fixed the problem. | 10:04 |
| jed56 | sorry about that | 10:05 |
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| brunograz | also for the other bug report | 10:06 |
| jed56 | I agree we should set the status to Invalid | 10:06 |
| brunograz | not a problem ;) | 10:06 |
| brunograz | just that it was not clear for me that there were ppl working in the same issue | 10:07 |
| brunograz | actually merged few minutes ago https://review.openstack.org/#/c/325145/ | 10:11 |
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| acabot | agenda for today #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Watcher_Meeting_Agenda#06.2F15.2F2016 | 10:13 |
| acabot | I probably need to update the watcher-dashboard section | 10:13 |
| acabot | brunograz : can you do some clean-up on your patches ? | 10:14 |
| brunograz | acabot: I marked the bug as invalid | 10:14 |
| brunograz | will check how to remove the PS | 10:14 |
| acabot | brunograz : ok you can simply abandon your patch | 10:14 |
| acabot | sorry about that | 10:14 |
| brunograz | acabot: done ;) | 10:15 |
| acabot | thx | 10:16 |
| acabot | gzhai2 : I'm really sorry about that but you will have to rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/297556/ again | 10:20 |
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| jinquan1 | brunograz: hello? | 10:31 |
| brunograz | jinquan1: hi | 10:31 |
| jinquan1 | i read the chat log, are you mean that to work the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/watcher/+bug/1591901? | 10:32 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1591901 in watcher "vm workload strategy does not change nova service state" [High,Triaged] - Assigned to Jinquan Ni (ni-jinquan) | 10:32 |
| jinquan1 | if yes i will unssign | 10:32 |
| brunograz | jinquan1: if you would like to work on that bug for me isn't an issue | 10:33 |
| brunograz | we implemented that strategy so I guess it would be easier for us to find the bug | 10:33 |
| brunograz | but if you want to work on it go for it | 10:34 |
| jinquan1 | brunograz: ok | 10:37 |
| jinquan1 | get it :) | 10:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Emile DARTOIS proposed openstack/watcher-specs: WiP Watcher should respect the Nova policies https://review.openstack.org/329873 | 10:47 |
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| openstackgerrit | Jean-Emile DARTOIS proposed openstack/watcher: Fix StrategyContext to use the strategy_id in the Audit Template https://review.openstack.org/327098 | 11:08 |
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| danpawlik | Specs file for openstack-watcher created :D Today I try to push it to community ;) | 11:10 |
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| jed56 | danpawlik: great | 11:41 |
| jed56 | :) | 11:41 |
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| alexchadin | jed56: should we store our scheduler jobs in somewhere? | 12:05 |
| alexchadin | sql db, mongo | 12:05 |
| jed56 | alexchadin: I'm currently amending the specs :) | 12:05 |
| jed56 | I'm claim that for the first implementation we should use in memory | 12:06 |
| alexchadin | jed56: good:) | 12:07 |
| alexchadin | What did you mean by "You don't take into account that each audit can have different periods." | 12:07 |
| alexchadin | Each audit have only one period, no? | 12:08 |
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| jed56 | Each audit have only one period, no? yes, but in your implementation you only relies on CONF.period_interval. | 12:11 |
| jed56 | you have to use for each audit his own period | 12:12 |
| alexchadin | I use | 12:13 |
| alexchadin | "time.sleep(audit.period)" | 12:13 |
| alexchadin | We had discussion with vincentfrancoise about this | 12:14 |
| jed56 | ah yes, i didn't saw this line sorryu | 12:14 |
| alexchadin | :) | 12:14 |
| alexchadin | I will think of it BTW | 12:14 |
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| sballe_ | Morning | 13:20 |
| jed56 | sballe_: hi | 13:22 |
| sballe_ | I am going to setup Watcher and devstack. I am assuming the documentation is on our normal wiki | 13:23 |
| sballe_ | Any best practices around how to set that up given that devstack can be setup with more than one VM | 13:23 |
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| jed56 | Personally, I use a vagrant script | 13:37 |
| sballe_ | Is the vagrant approach documented somewhere? | 13:39 |
| jed56 | https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack-vagrant | 13:40 |
| sballe_ | thx | 13:40 |
| jed56 | welcome | 13:42 |
| tkaczynski | sballe_ I hope that things have improved, I just remember that I spent like 3 weeks trying to setup multinode devstack not that long ago | 13:52 |
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| sballe_ | lol | 13:56 |
| sballe_ | me 2 | 13:56 |
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| acabot | weekly meeting will start on #openstack-meeting-4 | 14:00 |
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| openstackgerrit | OpenStack Proposal Bot proposed openstack/watcher: Updated from global requirements https://review.openstack.org/327393 | 14:05 |
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| odyssey4me | hvprash acabot I saw some discussion in #openstack-meeting-4 with regards to getting Watcher deployable with OSA. | 15:01 |
| hvprash | yep | 15:02 |
| hvprash | would like to talk to you about that | 15:02 |
| odyssey4me | This has been mentioned by michaelgugino who's plugged into the OSA development community, and I see some others here who've expressed interest in Watcher being deployed in OSA. | 15:02 |
| odyssey4me | Sure, interest has definitely been expressed. How far along is watcher? | 15:03 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : watcher is a big tent project for 2 weeks now | 15:04 |
| odyssey4me | The ideal situation is to have someone who understands the service very well to work with someone who understand OSA very well in a kind-of partnership so that any changes to Watcher can quickly be implemented in OSA rather than being reactive. | 15:04 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : sure I understand | 15:05 |
| odyssey4me | acabot sure, but what I mean is how well documented is the deployment, how usable is it for production? | 15:05 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : so the best contact for this would be dtardivel who has experience with ansible | 15:05 |
| michaelgugino | odyssey4me: that will be me, I'm going to be submitting patches against watcher with hvprash | 15:05 |
| odyssey4me | my apologies, I haven't gone and looked through any published info about it | 15:05 |
| michaelgugino | or dtardivel can do it ;) | 15:05 |
| acabot | michaelgugino : no I mean dtardivel understand the service and should work with you as you know OSA | 15:06 |
| odyssey4me | sounds good to me | 15:06 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : http://docs.openstack.org/developer/watcher/ | 15:07 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : watcher can be deployed with puppet or in a devstack env | 15:07 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : its not production ready as it is a 0.27 version right now | 15:07 |
| odyssey4me | acabot sure, that's not an issue - we can note it as an 'experimental' feature | 15:08 |
| acabot | odyssey4me : it would make sense | 15:08 |
| acabot | same state on puppet side ;-) | 15:08 |
| odyssey4me | yeah, Emilien and I have been trading notes now and again :) | 15:09 |
| acabot | ok ;-) | 15:09 |
| odyssey4me | ok, I guess it's really going to come down to who has time to do what, when | 15:09 |
| acabot | michaelgugino : when do you plan to work on it ? | 15:09 |
| odyssey4me | michaelgugino I'll leave it to you to work with the Watcher dev team to make it happen. | 15:09 |
| hvprash | we have few more members who can work on this | 15:10 |
| odyssey4me | acabot Feel free to ping me if the Watcher team needs a fresh set of eyes or if things are a bit stuck. | 15:10 |
| michaelgugino | acabot: I'm planning on helping hvprash with the audit modification work this week. I'll be on holiday next week, so most likely the week after that I'll start putting together some plays for osa-watcher | 15:10 |
| hvprash | thx michaelgugino odyssey4me | 15:11 |
| acabot | michaelgugino : ok in this case I will ask dtardivel to look at it in 2 weeks | 15:11 |
| michaelgugino | ok, sounds good | 15:11 |
| acabot | thx | 15:12 |
| odyssey4me | looking forward to it :) | 15:12 |
| odyssey4me | on paper it looks interesting, so I look forward to seeing it running | 15:15 |
| openstackgerrit | Daniel Pawlik proposed openstack/puppet-watcher: Implement api.pp https://review.openstack.org/329830 | 15:17 |
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| edleafe | reading the scrollback from the meeting - is there still a question as to what a "fishbowl session" is at the summit? | 15:31 |
| jed56 | edleafe: +1 :) | 15:32 |
| jed56 | acabot: can you explain to us what is a fishbolw session ? | 15:32 |
| edleafe | A fishbowl session is one where there is a person or two leading the discussion, and everyone else arranged in a semi-circular ring around them | 15:33 |
| edleafe | Those who are most involved with the topic sit close; those who are lurking sit further away | 15:34 |
| edleafe | You can move, of course, if you realize that you either want to contribute more (or less) | 15:34 |
| edleafe | There are no microphones; people are supposed to sit close enough so that everyone can hear | 15:35 |
| edleafe | It's a way to get a good discussion, rather than a person giving a presentation | 15:35 |
| edleafe | 2-way vs. 1-way | 15:35 |
| edleafe | If it gets too heated, the session leader can call on people so that only one at a time is speaking | 15:36 |
| edleafe | But generally that's not needed often | 15:36 |
| edleafe | The name comes from the circular arrangement of chairs, resembling a goldfish bowl | 15:36 |
| edleafe | Does that help? | 15:37 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Emile DARTOIS proposed openstack/watcher-specs: Update the continuously optimization specs. https://review.openstack.org/330021 | 15:38 |
| edleafe | From the OpenStack website: "Those are open sessions to discuss a specific feature or issue we have to solve. They happen in large rooms organized in fishbowl style (concentric rings of chairs). People wanting to participate to the discussion should move to the inner rings." | 15:38 |
| edleafe | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Design_Summit | 15:39 |
| jed56 | edleafe: thanks you very much ! | 15:39 |
| edleafe | jed56: you're welcome! | 15:40 |
| jed56 | edleafe: if you have some time, I will love a review from you https://review.openstack.org/#/c/329873/ :) | 15:40 |
| jed56 | this is not finish yet but, i would to have some feedback to continue | 15:41 |
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| edleafe | jed56: already have that open in a tab in my reviwe queue :) | 15:41 |
| jed56 | great! | 15:41 |
| openstackgerrit | Jean-Emile DARTOIS proposed openstack/watcher-specs: Update the continuously optimization spec. https://review.openstack.org/330021 | 15:45 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Gugino proposed openstack/watcher: WIP: Implement goal_id and watcher_id into Audit api https://review.openstack.org/330165 | 19:15 |
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| openstackgerrit | Michael Gugino proposed openstack/watcher: WIP: Implement goal_id and watcher_id into Audit api https://review.openstack.org/330165 | 20:03 |
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| sballe_ | edleafe: Hi :) I am looking at the role of cgroups from an orchestrator/Watcher point of view and I am wondering if nova supports cgroups | 20:35 |
| sballe_ | do you know? I cannot find any documentation on nova and cgroups | 20:36 |
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| edleafe | sballe_: no, nova assumes it has full use of the host, and relies on the hypervisor to provide the necessary isolation for the VMs | 21:53 |
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