Monday, 2015-09-14

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flaper87o/06:52
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therve'morning07:08
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flaper87therve: good morning, sir!07:39
therveflaper87, Did you remove --master intentionally on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/ ?07:43
flaper87therve: it's in the config file now07:43
flaper87therve: in the uwsgi config07:44
therveOh indeed, sorry07:44
flaper87np07:44
flaper87I should probably add it to the sample config07:44
flaper87therve: re the missing migration. I fully agree. I think we'll have to migrate to oslo.db eventually to avoid reinventing everything07:46
* flaper87 shrugs07:46
therveAh yeah. I didn't know we were not using it07:46
flaper87it'd be a good task for mitaka07:46
flaper87vkmc: are you going to mentor outreachy mentees in mitaka?07:47
flaper87I mean, in the next round07:47
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therveflaper87, Should I open a bug to update falcon version?07:52
flaper87therve: ah yeah, pls.07:53
flaper87just to track it07:53
therveflaper87, Do you think we can do it in current release?07:53
therveOtherwise I can just create the requirements patch right away07:53
flaper87therve: I'm hoping so, although I think g-r is frozen and they won't be happy with us doing that07:54
therveAh, too bad07:54
therveflaper87, Also, will we manage to push https://review.openstack.org/206080 ? :)08:05
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flaper87therve: yup yup! That'll be my review focus this week08:12
flaper87:D08:12
flaper87vkmc: flwang ryansb ^08:12
therveSweet08:12
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: WebSocket functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/22302309:48
therveflaper87, ^^^09:49
therveStill WIP09:49
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openstackgerritThomas Herve proposed openstack/zaqar: WebSocket functional tests  https://review.openstack.org/22302310:52
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flwang1morning, guys11:02
flaper87flwang1: heeeeeelllloo11:02
flaper87happy to see your candidacy11:02
flwang1flaper87: i take the words as a support :)11:03
flaper87flwang1: yeah! :D11:04
flwang1flaper87: as for the doc sprint, I saw ryansb submitted a patch to complete the docstring of redis driver11:04
flaper87flwang1: yeah, that's awesome11:05
flaper87I need to push my patch for flavors11:06
flwang1flaper87: so i'm trying to figure out what's the prefer way for the doc sprint11:06
flwang1flaper87: my initial though is adding doc in our developer doc11:06
flwang1flaper87: though docstring is another good way11:07
flaper87So, the way we've done this so far is by documenting with docstrings and generating docs11:07
flaper87there are certainly some parts that might require some manual docs writing instead of docstrings11:07
flaper87but the good thing of having docstrings is that we ship docs w/ the code11:07
flaper87see zaqar.storage.mongodb.__init__11:08
flwang1flaper87: yep, for redis driver, docstring is a good way11:08
flwang1but for websocket, flavor, pools and notification, manual developer doc would be good to add some samples and the steps how to use it11:09
flwang1thoughs?11:10
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flaper87flwang1: yup, that sounds like the way to go11:12
flaper87another way would be to have a module called zaqar.transport.flavor11:12
flaper87which we'd use just to document flavors11:12
flaper87mmh11:12
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flaper87not really nice but at least we'd be consistent with having the docs in docstrings11:12
flaper87but again11:12
flaper87I think we'll eventually need to have doc-only files11:13
flaper87like deployment strategies11:13
flwang1+111:13
flaper87ryansb: therve ^ thoughts?11:14
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therveflaper87, You mean files in doc/ ?11:28
openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: RBAC support based on oslo.policy  https://review.openstack.org/20991011:29
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flaper87flwang1: you overwrote the commit message I wrote11:33
flaper87hahaa11:33
flaper87I think11:33
flaper87therve: I was thinking of also having a zaqar/transport/falvors.py containing just docstrings11:34
flaper87but that sounds like a terrible idea11:34
flwang1flaper87: you rebased it as well?11:35
flaper87flwang1: I did on saturday11:36
flaper87nvm, I just +2'd11:36
flwang1flaper87: yes, but there is a conflicts after merged therve's error handler patch11:37
flwang1and i think i didn't overwrote your message11:37
therveflaper87, Yeah +1 on moving it in doc/11:38
flwang1flaper87: do you know what's the official way for the end user doc?11:38
flwang1seems currently only the 'core' projects are documented in the end user guide11:39
flwang1and same for api ref, installation guide11:39
flaper87flwang1: eventually, all projects should be there but we'll have to help with that effort11:40
flaper87vkmc: started it a couple of cycles ago11:40
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flwang1flaper87: so technically, based on the big tent, there is no obstacle to add zaqar for all of them?11:45
flwang1flaper87: like i mentioned with you before, i really want to see zaqar's api is shown in the ap-ref site11:45
flaper87flwang1: the best thing to do there is to talk to the doc's team and plan the steps forward11:46
flaper87but yes, there's nothing forbidding Zaqar to be added there11:46
flaper87(other than lack of docs ;)11:46
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flwang1flaper87: awesome, i will talk with Lana11:50
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flaper87flwang1: +111:57
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flwang1flaper87: :( Lana said only core12:06
flaper87flwang1: mmh, fun thing is that there's no such thing as core anymore12:07
flaper87I'll have to bring this up in the TC meeting12:07
flwang1flaper87: yep, that's why i asked12:07
flwang1flaper87: though i understand it may bring a big workload for the doc team12:08
flwang1but i think at least the api doc can be maintained by different project team12:08
flaper87yeah, we'll need some discussions around this12:09
flaper87lets put it on hold for now12:09
flwang1FWIW, we need a way to do that, seems it's a corner of big tent haven't been touched12:09
flwang1flaper87: ok12:09
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ryansbmorning, zaqarians13:02
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flaper87ryansb: goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning13:05
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njohnstonGood morning.  I'm new to zaqar and have only a few commits elsewhere, but I am interested in the project, so I'll be lurking looking for low-hanging fruit I can jump on to get more acquainted with the project.13:20
vkmcnjohnston, o/ welcome13:20
vkmclet us know how we can help13:21
flaper87njohnston: hey there! So happy to see you here13:21
flaper87njohnston: have you taken a look here already? https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bugs?field.tag=low-hanging-fruit13:22
flaper87njohnston: I've also found reviews to be super helpful to become familiar with projects13:23
njohnstonYep!  I have done a few reviews to start with, I'm looking through https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209910/ now.  After that I may snag a low hanging fruit bug.  Thanks!13:23
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therveryansb, There is no db migration management in zaqar13:51
ryansbreally?13:51
ryansbI didn't know that13:51
flaper87ryansb: yes, zaqar doesn't use oslo.db13:51
ryansbalso, welcome njohnston13:52
flaper87there's story behind that, FWIW. But we'll get there13:52
flaper87:D13:52
flaper87I know many of these findings are like: DAFUQ? (pulling your hair)13:53
flaper87but well...13:53
flaper87so, can we consider that change? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/13:54
flaper87a less invasive change would be adding a size to the binary field13:54
flaper87but that requires a migration too13:54
ryansbyeah, alright13:55
flaper87also, that change means that no one is using that code because mysql requires binary fields to have a size13:55
flaper87prio for Mitaka. Add migrations13:56
flaper87flwang1: ^13:56
ryansbfair enough13:56
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flaper87vkmc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/14:00
flaper87pls, pls, pls!14:00
* flaper87 so excited to have a working gate14:00
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jasondotstarmorning, zaqarians14:28
jasondotstarflaper87: hey, hey14:28
flaper87jasondotstar: moooorning14:28
flaper87:D14:28
flaper87news?14:28
flaper87news?14:28
flaper87news?14:28
* flaper87 wonders where his manners are14:29
flaper87jasondotstar: how was your weekend? news?14:29
flaper87:D14:29
jasondotstarI'm working on it... couple questions14:29
jasondotstarweekend was fine!14:29
jasondotstaroff-topic: I talked to kambiz......14:29
jasondotstartold him i was hanging out w/ you in chan :-)14:29
flaper87jasondotstar: ha! awesome :D14:30
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jasondotstarback on topic....14:30
jasondotstarso the 'Give Zaqar a try' doc link14:30
jasondotstarinstalls zaqar from source14:30
jasondotstarbut, the resulting packages.... where can I find them? isn't there a python-zaqarclient and a openstack-zaqar pkg per distro?14:31
ryansbsort of14:32
ryansbbut distros lag by some amount, differing by distro14:32
vkmchttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/222861/ <- what does it mean a "migration" patch?14:32
ryansbso if you want to try the current zaqar, source is your best bet14:32
ryansban additional patch that adds a DB migration script to help existing users make the change to their installation14:33
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flaper87vkmc: to migrate the database schema14:34
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flaper87vkmc: we changed the field type from Binary to Text14:34
ryansbsince if they want to use their existing installation and upgrade to newer zaqar, they need to run a database migration so the models map properly14:34
jasondotstarryansb, flaper87: ok, and you think desgining the initial puppet zaqar module to pull from git is ok?14:36
ryansbWhat do the other modules do?14:36
jasondotstarb/c that's the way I was moving on it last week, but after looking at the puppet-ceilometer code14:36
jasondotstarthey use package ensures14:36
ryansbFor red hat derivatives, there's always RDO packages14:36
vkmcflaper87, ok, so what happens with Mongo?14:36
flaper87jasondotstar: wait, for puppet you have to use packages14:36
ryansbhm, so for deployers, they likely have repos with the packages they need14:37
jasondotstarflaper87: right that's what I realized14:37
ryansbvkmc: nothing, there's no such thing as schemas in NoSQL14:37
flaper87vkmc: with mongodb is easier. We still don't have migration mechanisms but we haven'g changed the schema14:37
flaper87however, we can change the schema on the fly without hard migrations14:37
flaper87and still be backwards compatible14:37
flaper87jasondotstar: thing is, there are no packages for ubuntu yet14:38
jasondotstarhmmm14:38
jasondotstarok14:38
jasondotstaris there a workflow to rectify that?14:38
vkmcryansb, I know, thing is... shouldn't we perform some kind of control to ensure consistency across pools with diff datastores?14:38
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jasondotstari.e build debs14:38
jasondotstar?14:38
ryansbI'm not sure that matters for this patch, since it's sql-only14:39
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jasondotstarflaper87: ^14:45
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* flaper87 reads14:56
flaper87jasondotstar:  to build debs you gotta talk to the ppl behind that. I know zigo takes care of debian14:56
flaper87and James takes care of Ubuntu14:57
flaper87jasondotstar: zigo has some work done already, AFAIK14:57
jasondotstarack14:57
flaper87jasondotstar: for RDO, I'm your man14:58
flaper87but I might not make sense14:58
jasondotstarflaper87: ack14:58
flaper87rpm's are hard14:58
flaper87:P14:58
flaper87packaging is hard14:58
* flaper87 is not that smart14:58
* jasondotstar begs to differ :D14:59
jasondotstarwell14:59
jasondotstarwhat if we detect the distro14:59
jasondotstarin the puppet code14:59
jasondotstarand if it's rpm based14:59
jasondotstarwe use the RDO pkgs14:59
jasondotstarand... for now.. if it's not14:59
jasondotstarwe build from src?15:00
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jasondotstarflaper87: ^^^^^^^15:09
flaper87jasondotstar: tbh, I'm ok with that as long as EmilienM is ok with that15:09
flaper87:D15:09
jasondotstarflaper87: ack. EmilienM, thoughts?15:10
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EmilienMjasondotstar: our Puppet modules support RDO & UCA packaging only15:12
EmilienMif we want to test puppet-zaqar, we need packaging for at least one of both distros15:12
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jasondotstarEmilienM: ack.15:17
jasondotstarEmilienM: so I should work with zigo and james to ensure those are in place15:18
jasondotstarfrom a UCA perspective15:18
EmilienMjasondotstar: james15:18
EmilienMjasondotstar: do we have RDO pkging?15:18
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jasondotstarEmilienM: not sure... flaper87 says he's the man for that....15:22
flaper87jasondotstar: as in, I know who to ping exactly15:22
flaper87jasondotstar: I'm italian, man. I don't work, I know whom to ask15:23
flaper87:D15:23
* flaper87 is not helping Italians15:23
flaper87EmilienM: we do have openstack-zaqar in RDO15:23
flaper87(last I knew)15:23
flaper87and zaqarclient15:23
EmilienMnice15:24
EmilienMso we need to start testing puppet-zaqar on rdo15:24
EmilienMby patching acceptance15:24
EmilienMlike it's done in other modules15:24
flaper87jasondotstar: are you in openstack-puppet's IRC channel?15:24
EmilienMflaper87: wrong channel15:25
flaper87if you're not, you should join them15:25
EmilienMflaper87: #puppet-openstack15:25
flaper87EmilienM: that one15:25
flaper87EmilienM: and you broke my mental compatibility15:25
flaper87:(15:25
flaper87my brain is weak, these small inconsistencies are terrible for me15:25
flaper87I can't assume things now15:25
flaper87:(15:25
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EmilienMflaper87: I know you already, why do you tell me?15:27
EmilienMlol15:27
EmilienMBOOM15:27
jasondotstarflaper87: I am15:27
jasondotstarin the puppet chan15:27
flaper87EmilienM: hahahaha, I thought we were friends, why u do this to me? :(15:27
flaper87EmilienM: <3 u anyway15:27
EmilienMflaper87: /me runs15:28
jasondotstarok bbiab....mtg15:28
flaper87jasondotstar: puppet-openstack > puppet15:28
flaper87jasondotstar: enjoy15:28
flaper87jasondotstar: </sarcasm>15:28
jasondotstarright that's what i meant15:28
jasondotstarhehehehe15:28
flaper87dafuq, it's almost 16 UTC already15:29
flaper87T_T15:29
EmilienMflaper87: almost lunch time for me :P15:29
flaper87vkmc: what's up w/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/ ?15:31
flaper87:D15:31
flaper87EmilienM: almost beer time for me :D15:31
flaper87(as if I needed a specific time for beer)15:31
EmilienMflaper87: you should stop drinking and code more :P15:33
EmilienMBOOM²15:33
flaper87ryansb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209910/15:36
flaper87EmilienM: NEVER!15:36
EmilienMflaper87: oh I see, you bother people with patches :P15:39
flaper87EmilienM: ooooooooooooh yeah. I'm one of those. I work like italians do :D15:40
EmilienMflaper87: :)15:41
ryansbflaper87: yeah, I know15:44
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Hide project id for flavor  https://review.openstack.org/22098015:55
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Use a Text field instead of Binary  https://review.openstack.org/22286116:05
flaper87vkmc: I know you're afraid but this is the most important one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221068/16:05
flaper87don't worry, the gate will still love you16:06
* flaper87 ducks16:06
ryansbshe's afraid of having a gate that works16:09
vkmchaha16:12
vkmcno sorry, I didn't understand a thing16:12
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njohnstonI am starting work on https://bugs.launchpad.net/zaqar/+bug/1288406, and I was wondering if I should create a new file to contain the requested decorator, or should I add it to an existing file, like transport/base.py?18:17
openstackLaunchpad bug 1288406 in zaqar "DRY transport request logging" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Nate Johnston (nate-johnston)18:17
njohnstonI'm just not familiar enough with the codebase - yet - to know if there's a natural home for this.18:19
openstackgerritRyan Brown proposed openstack/zaqar: Add Redis backend docs  https://review.openstack.org/22271418:23
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ryansbflaper87: super easy review for you - it's from the docs sprint https://review.openstack.org/22271418:30
ryansbnjohnston: base.py might not be bad, but we also have zaqar/common/decorators.py18:30
ryansbwhich might be a better home18:31
njohnstonryansb: Perfect, thanks!18:31
* flaper87 clicks18:31
ryansbflaper87: surprise, it's docs!18:31
flaper87ryansb: LOL, that's what I was expecting18:33
flaper87:P18:33
* flaper87 lies18:33
flaper87njohnston: great comments18:33
flaper87can we throw a party at our meeting today?18:41
flaper87Unless someone else wants to run for Zaqar's PTL positin, it'll be my last meeting as Zaqar's ptl18:42
flaper87ok ok, no party18:45
flaper87jeeez, you guys don't like me anymore18:45
vkmcwe can get cookies18:45
* flaper87 sad18:46
vkmcUH OH18:46
vkmcgummybears18:46
flaper87w000h00018:46
vkmcwe said goodbye to kgriffs with poptarts18:46
vkmcyou are the gummybear ptl18:46
* flaper87 likes that18:46
vkmcwe need to find a candy for flwang18:46
openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: RBAC support based on oslo.policy  https://review.openstack.org/20991018:50
ryansbwait, so if nobody wants to run, then it won't be your last meeting?18:55
ryansbI'm confused18:55
vkmcryansb, flwang is running for PTL18:58
ryansbyeah, I saw the email for that18:59
ryansband flaper87's non-running blog post18:59
flaper87ryansb: so, if someone else runs, there's a voting week, which means I'll run next weeks meeting19:03
ryansbahh, now I get it19:03
flaper87if no one else runs, flwang will be the PTL starting this friday19:03
flaper87:)19:03
flaper87Folks, I don't see any items in the agenda19:23
vkmcflaper87, the only thing I wanted to talk about is docs19:34
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vkmcwe used to have a configuration guide for Zaqar in the OpenStack manuals19:34
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vkmcbut we don't have it anymore... AFAIK19:36
vkmcor its outdated19:36
flaper87I think it's outdated19:36
flaper87flwang: brought that up earlier today19:36
vkmcops, didn't read the scrollback19:38
vkmcwell you noticed that19:38
* vkmc hides19:38
flaper87hahahahahah19:39
flaper87sorry, got distracted19:39
flaper87what I wnted to say is that he brought that up, we talked and thought about contacting the docs team but apparently there are still some limitations that we'll have to go through at higher levels19:39
vkmcyeah19:40
jasondotstarflaper87: can you ping your RDO guy?19:44
jasondotstaror tell me who it iz and I'll ping 'em :-)19:44
flaper87jasondotstar: join #rdo and ping number8019:45
jasondotstarflaper87: ack19:45
flaper87jasondotstar: he's in CEST so he's probably not around19:46
jasondotstarflaper87: i pinged him19:47
flaper87jasondotstar: I did the introductions19:48
jasondotstarnice19:48
flaper87jasondotstar: what do you need? I might even know the answer19:48
jasondotstarwell, the qn is regarding the repos19:48
jasondotstarto setup the RDO zaqar pkg ensures19:48
jasondotstarhaven't used RDO in awhile....19:49
jasondotstarfor RPM-based distros, I assume we need to make sure the appropriate repo is there19:49
jasondotstarfor doing the pkg ensures for zaqar19:50
jasondotstarwanted to confirm19:50
jasondotstarflaper87: ^^^^^^19:50
flaper87jasondotstar: yes, that's correct19:50
* flaper87 gets link19:50
flaper87jasondotstar: https://www.rdoproject.org/Quickstart19:51
flaper87Summary for the Impatient19:51
jasondotstark19:51
flaper87sudo yum install -y https://rdoproject.org/repos/rdo-release.rpm19:51
flaper87that sets up the repo19:51
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jasondotstarflaper87: simple enough...20:06
flaper87jasondotstar: was it? did that help?20:07
* flaper87 is surprised20:08
jasondotstaryeah, that works20:08
flaper87jasondotstar: how does ceilo (or other projects) do that?20:08
flaper87AWESEOM!20:09
flaper87awesome, even20:09
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jasondotstarwell, I'm looking for where the repo is added20:11
jasondotstarlooks like the puppet module assumes that the right repo is there already....20:11
* jasondotstar continues to dig...20:12
jasondotstarthe params.pp does some package name assignments20:12
jasondotstarperhaps that's a good qn to ask in the other chan20:13
jasondotstar1 sec20:13
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flaper87EmilienM: ^ you might know the answer too20:16
* EmilienM reading20:16
EmilienMso20:16
EmilienM1/ our modules do not install any repository20:16
EmilienM2/ our 'master' supposes you're running liberty20:17
EmilienM3/ our 'stable/X' suppose you run stable/X20:17
EmilienM4/ our current CI is running liberty20:17
flaper87jasondotstar: ^20:18
EmilienMhttps://github.com/openstack/puppet-nova/blob/master/spec/acceptance/basic_nova_spec.rb#L22-L4220:18
EmilienMthis is the magic that installs RDO liberty in our CI ^20:18
EmilienMour CI runs centos7 fyi20:18
jasondotstari see.20:18
jasondotstarso the rdo repo is probably going to be there20:19
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EmilienMjasondotstar: take example from other modules if you want to write acceptance20:19
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jasondotstarwrite acceptance?20:20
jasondotstar(sorry, n0ob qn)20:20
EmilienMjasondotstar: https://github.com/puppetlabs/beaker20:21
jasondotstarah!20:21
jasondotstarok20:21
jasondotstargot cha20:21
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flaper87vkmc: jasondotstar ryansb meeting21:03
flaper87are you guys joining?21:03
flaper87otherwise we'll skip it21:03
flaper87There's not much to say21:03
ryansb\o21:04
njohnstono/21:04
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openstackgerritMerged openstack/zaqar: Add Redis backend docs  https://review.openstack.org/22271423:14
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openstackgerritFei Long Wang proposed openstack/zaqar: Rename pool to pool_group for flavor  https://review.openstack.org/22087623:20
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