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| mdnadeem | vkmc: Good morning :) | 00:20 |
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| vkmc | mdnadeem, morning! | 00:20 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: Have you seen the patch? | 00:21 |
| vkmc | mdnadeem, I did! looks very good | 00:22 |
| vkmc | changing it for v2 seems right... and I think its backportable to v1.1 | 00:22 |
| vkmc | could you remove the .idea files? and then we can push it fwd | 00:22 |
| vkmc | thanks for working on it | 00:22 |
| vkmc | :D | 00:22 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: Yah , i just remove it asap. | 00:23 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: is v1.1 is release version? | 00:23 |
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| mdnadeem | vkmc : ^^?? | 00:35 |
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| vkmc | mdnadeem, v1.1 is the prior version to v2 | 00:50 |
| vkmc | for the api | 00:50 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: hehe, thanks any way i want to know if v1.1 is released version? . As per my knowledge we have to check backward compatibility with released version only | 00:52 |
| vkmc | mdnadeem, it is yes :) | 00:53 |
| vkmc | v1 is freezed... v1.1 not yet | 00:53 |
| vkmc | I think it won't do any harm | 00:53 |
| vkmc | buuuuuut | 00:53 |
| vkmc | just in case | 00:53 |
| vkmc | I'd like to discuss this with the rest of the team | 00:53 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc : Thanks, however i can not understand , what you mean by backportable to v1.1, is this mean i can do changes for v1.1 also? | 00:55 |
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| Eva-i | vkmc: if changes will be made to v1.1 API, then client code for v1.1 API will not be compatible anymore. | 01:09 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: ^^ , i too feel so | 01:10 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: people who wrote programs for v1.1 API might get errors there were not expecting | 01:10 |
| Eva-i | *they were not expecting | 01:11 |
| Eva-i | So even if v1.1 contained the bug, people already adapted to this bug, they have found some workaround | 01:12 |
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| Eva-i | And changing v.1.1 API which is called now stable will make these people sad | 01:13 |
| Eva-i | Or v.1.1 is still considered as unstable? | 01:14 |
| vkmc | not for this change | 01:14 |
| vkmc | this change performs a control over name collisions | 01:14 |
| vkmc | its not a change in the api | 01:14 |
| Eva-i | This change affects responses the API provides. | 01:17 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: yes, like before create command on duplicate pool name response to 201 and now it response to 400 | 01:18 |
| vkmc | sure | 01:19 |
| vkmc | but the development for v1.1 is not ended yet | 01:19 |
| vkmc | that's why I'm thinking maybe its something we could add | 01:20 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: oh if v1.1 is not freese yet, then we do changes , ahh cool :) | 01:20 |
| Eva-i | Someone might expect 201 responses now in such cases, but suddenly zaqar will give 400 responses. | 01:20 |
| mdnadeem | *freeze | 01:20 |
| vkmc | Eva-i, that's correct | 01:20 |
| vkmc | you are right about it, this change changes the api | 01:21 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: v1.1 is not release yet, so such changes could be possible | 01:22 |
| Eva-i | For some reason I thought v1.1 is stable, but in wiki I see that only v1.0 is released | 01:22 |
| Eva-i | So maybe it will be okay to change v.1.1 | 01:22 |
| Eva-i | but it's strange a bit. Why to work on v.2.0 API when v1.1 is not yet finished | 01:24 |
| vkmc | yeah, that's why I'm confused | 01:25 |
| vkmc | :D | 01:25 |
| vkmc | I'll ask the PTL later about this | 01:25 |
| mdnadeem | I think wiki has very old data, it is not updated ye, may be v1.1 is released | 01:26 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: Please confirm us after asking to PTL :) | 01:26 |
| vkmc | sure, I'll ask here on the channel so you get noticed as well | 01:27 |
| mdnadeem | cool, :) | 01:27 |
| mdnadeem | After getting confirmation, i will work on for v1.1 | 01:28 |
| vkmc | great, thanks for that | 01:28 |
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| vkmc | Eva-i, how are you doing with your application? | 01:31 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: I still haven't registered in outreachy | 01:31 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: today I'll update my website with "about" info and links to some of my projects. So my application will be fuller with this info | 01:33 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: it's time to make an application? | 01:35 |
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| vkmc | Eva-i, nope, the deadline is November 2nd | 01:39 |
| vkmc | but I ask just in case you need help with something | 01:40 |
| vkmc | btw | 01:40 |
| vkmc | isn't super late for you? | 01:40 |
| vkmc | it's late for me so... I guess... | 01:40 |
| Eva-i | I was about to make application about 25 october | 01:41 |
| Eva-i | So in case if I will stuck with something, there will be some time | 01:41 |
| vkmc | sure | 01:42 |
| Eva-i | It's not superlate for me | 01:42 |
| vkmc | 4.40 am? | 01:42 |
| Eva-i | I just got up two hours ago. | 01:42 |
| Eva-i | yes, 04.42 AM | 01:42 |
| vkmc | o.o | 01:42 |
| Eva-i | I decided to gradually shift my sleeping regime. In two days I'll be sleeping like a normal person. | 01:43 |
| vkmc | haha | 01:43 |
| vkmc | whatever fits you, is ok | 01:43 |
| vkmc | make sure to get enough sleep though :) | 01:44 |
| Eva-i | I just thought I miss the sun and so decided to fix my sleeping regime to catch more of it. | 01:44 |
| vkmc | :D that makes sense | 01:44 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: yes, sure. I feel great. | 01:44 |
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| openstackgerrit | MD NADEEM proposed openstack/zaqar: Create api through PoolNameExist exception for duplicate pool name https://review.openstack.org/238006 | 02:14 |
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| openstackgerrit | MD NADEEM proposed openstack/zaqar: Create api should throw PoolNameExist exception for duplicate pool name https://review.openstack.org/238006 | 04:26 |
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| mdnadeem | flaper87: Hello, Please add me on wechat, my wechat ID: mdnadeem92 | 07:03 |
| openstackgerrit | ZhiQiang Fan proposed openstack/zaqar: Use oslo_config new type PortOpt for port options https://review.openstack.org/238386 | 07:03 |
| flaper87 | mdnadeem: erm, mmh, lemme find the right way to say this without you hatting me: We decided last night to stop using wechat because it has several security holes. :( Feel free to email me your number and I'll create a whatsapp group | 07:07 |
| mdnadeem | flaper87: I had install wechat last night :). but its cool to join on whatsup, i will mail you my number. Thanks | 07:13 |
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| mdnadeem | flaper87: can you confirm , if zaqar API v1.1 is freeze or under development ? | 07:17 |
| flaper87 | mdnadeem: it's frozen | 07:23 |
| flaper87 | mdnadeem: v1.1 is supported, v2 is current | 07:23 |
| mdnadeem | flaper87: ohk, Thanks | 07:27 |
| mdnadeem | vkmc: Eva-i : ^^ | 07:27 |
| openstackgerrit | MD NADEEM proposed openstack/zaqar: Flavor create api should throw FlavorNameExist exception for duplicate Flavor name https://review.openstack.org/238396 | 07:43 |
| openstackgerrit | MD NADEEM proposed openstack/zaqar: Flavor create api should throw FlavorNameExist exception for duplicate Flavor name https://review.openstack.org/238396 | 07:47 |
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| mdnadeem | therve: hi | 08:24 |
| therve | Hello | 08:24 |
| mdnadeem | I am try to run websocket.test_queue test, however tox skip test cases | 08:26 |
| mdnadeem | may be i am doing something wrong, Please have a look : http://paste.openstack.org/show/477103/ | 08:27 |
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| mdnadeem | therve: may be i have to test them on integration mode | 08:29 |
| therve | mdnadeem, Yeah, try tox -eintegration instead | 08:31 |
| mdnadeem | *trying | 08:32 |
| mdnadeem | therve: working Thanks :) | 08:34 |
| therve | No problem! | 08:35 |
| therve | mdnadeem, That's instended. I wanted to make sure the integration builder fails properly | 08:43 |
| Eva-i | mdnadeem: hehe =) I added info about API v1.1 stability as a task to documentation refactoring etherpad. | 08:43 |
| mdnadeem | therve: ohk , got it. Thanks :) | 08:43 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: cool, :) | 08:44 |
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| mdnadeem | Eva-i: flaper87 has confirm that v1.1 is freeze now as you already seen in log . | 08:46 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: I think we need work on documentation part also, many information is missing there, so there is need to update it with right content. | 08:51 |
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| Eva-i | mdnadeem: yes, refactoring is coming. That's why such etherpad exists. | 08:56 |
| mdnadeem | share me the link | 08:57 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, Eva-i Hello! | 08:57 |
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| Eva-i | exploreshaifali: hellow | 08:57 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, Hellooooooooo | 08:57 |
| exploreshaifali | :D | 08:58 |
| exploreshaifali | how are you? | 08:58 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, mast, you say | 08:58 |
| exploreshaifali | all well :) | 08:58 |
| exploreshaifali | how we register a queue to pool? You people were playing with them, I remember, so might you can answer | 08:58 |
| exploreshaifali | I have a queue with name q1 let say and a pool with p1 | 08:59 |
| mdnadeem | i was sleeping that time, | 08:59 |
| exploreshaifali | now if I want q1 to register to p1, what to do? | 08:59 |
| mdnadeem | i check log very late in the morning | 08:59 |
| Eva-i | mdnadeem: here's the link, but if I'm not mistaken, vkmc said that it's intended to be edited during Mitaka summit. Maybe it's wrong that I'm adding info to it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-mitaka-docs | 08:59 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, we can link a q1 to a pool group, | 09:00 |
| Eva-i | exploreshaifali: as I know, it's impossible to link queque to a particular pool | 09:01 |
| exploreshaifali | okay! and what to do to register a queue to pool group | 09:01 |
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| exploreshaifali | let say we have group g1 which have pools, p1, p2, p3 | 09:01 |
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| mdnadeem | you have to create a flavor that should link to g1 | 09:02 |
| exploreshaifali | fist thing, dose these three pools can have different flavors? | 09:02 |
| mdnadeem | flavor should attached to a group , | 09:03 |
| mdnadeem | we can create multiple flavor on a group | 09:04 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, this is as per v2 ? | 09:05 |
| mdnadeem | while creating a queue you should pass a flavor name, so here is the mapping , q1-->f1, f1-->g1, g1-->{p1,p2,p3} | 09:05 |
| mdnadeem | so q1 can be link to any of the pool, depending on pool weight | 09:06 |
| mdnadeem | yes | 09:06 |
| mdnadeem | let me check, if it is same on v1.1 or not | 09:06 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, please can you link me to v2 doc? | 09:10 |
| exploreshaifali | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/specs/api/v1.1 is for v1.1 | 09:11 |
| Eva-i | exploreshaifali: v2 doc do not exists | 09:11 |
| mdnadeem | I guess there is no doc for v2 | 09:11 |
| Eva-i | *do not exist | 09:12 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, so in v1.1 while creating flavor we can give a list of pools | 09:12 |
| exploreshaifali | that will link to that flavor | 09:12 |
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| exploreshaifali | flavors are not attached with group, as per v1.1 | 09:12 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, no | 09:12 |
| mdnadeem | we give a pool group name, while creating a flavor | 09:13 |
| mdnadeem | yes, that need to be corrected | 09:13 |
| mdnadeem | there are lots of thing that we should update in v1.1 page, | 09:13 |
| mdnadeem | i and Eva-i have just talk about it. | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | oh! okay.... This thing was creating confusion to me1 | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | Great! | 09:14 |
| mdnadeem | yes, every one get confused | 09:14 |
| mdnadeem | by refering v1.1 doc | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | Thanks people, mdnadeem Eva-i :) | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | hahha | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | that is full on flaper87's fault | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | :P | 09:14 |
| mdnadeem | np, :) | 09:14 |
| exploreshaifali | flaper is not here atm, so can blame him | 09:16 |
| exploreshaifali | :P | 09:16 |
| mdnadeem | he can check log later, :) | 09:17 |
| Eva-i | mdnadeem: take a look at this change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220876/4 | 09:17 |
| Eva-i | mdnadeem: I think it modifies v1.1 API, which is prohibited | 09:18 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: yah, i had seen it before. | 09:18 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: Regarding this i need to talk with flawng, | 09:19 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, its a trend here, to blame those who are not present ;) | 09:20 |
| exploreshaifali | no body mind it! | 09:20 |
| exploreshaifali | btw tht patch link that Eva-i gave clearly specify that we need to make changes in v1.1 doc | 09:21 |
| mdnadeem | So you will get blamed most, as most of the time you are not present here. lolz | 09:21 |
| exploreshaifali | haha | 09:22 |
| mdnadeem | yes, we must update it. may be after summit i will do that | 09:22 |
| exploreshaifali | I will not mind it, at least you people will remember me | 09:22 |
| exploreshaifali | :D | 09:22 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, always :) | 09:22 |
| exploreshaifali | yes after summit discussion on docs, we will do. | 09:22 |
| exploreshaifali | :) | 09:22 |
| Eva-i | flaper87: I think this patch changes v1.1 API which is stable. Is it okay? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220876/4 | 09:23 |
| mdnadeem | Eva-i: good question , flaper87 is now away, may be he response lately :) | 09:25 |
| Eva-i | mdnadeem: yeah, maybe | 09:25 |
| mdnadeem | exploreshaifali, Eva-i , leaving for the home, see you tomorrow :) | 09:26 |
| exploreshaifali | mdnadeem, see you :) | 09:29 |
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| flaper87 | Eva-i: yeah, v1.1 shouldn't be changed | 11:55 |
| flaper87 | actually, none | 11:55 |
| flaper87 | v2 needs to keep backwards compatibility | 11:56 |
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| Eva-i | flaper87: do you mean v2 needs to support all old API features and behave exactly like old API when using these features? | 12:28 |
| Eva-i | flaper87: what if old API contains a bug? | 12:29 |
| Eva-i | flaper87: this bug should be kept? | 12:31 |
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| vkmc | we should document that v1.1 is stable | 12:41 |
| vkmc | and I don't see why we shouldn't change v2 | 12:42 |
| vkmc | IMO we should fix that | 12:42 |
| Eva-i | maybe full backwards compatibility is not worth keeping same behavior, keeping old bugs | 12:47 |
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| Eva-i | flaper87: but okay, if you say so | 12:49 |
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| Eva-i | I heard about semantic versioning. When semantic versioning is used, it's okay to change API when program's major version number changes. | 13:04 |
| vkmc | yeah | 13:06 |
| vkmc | that's a good point | 13:06 |
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| Eva-i | but I don't know if zaqar is using this versioning scheme | 13:06 |
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| Eva-i | And my last argument will be: backwards compatibility is already broken | 13:28 |
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| Eva-i | example: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/specs/api/v1#Post_Message.28s.29 https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/specs/api/v1.1#Post_Message.28s.29 | 13:29 |
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| therve | Eva-i, The wiki is wrong on that one | 13:33 |
| therve | I don't think you should use it as a reference | 13:33 |
| therve | Ah no it's POST? Maybe it's right | 13:34 |
| therve | I think you're missing Flavio's point though | 13:34 |
| therve | The compatibility is not from version X to version Y, it's while you're on version X | 13:35 |
| therve | Bugs can be fixed, it depends on which problem you're talking about | 13:36 |
| Eva-i | therve: wiki is right in this case, requests are different and don't work when used with other API version | 13:37 |
| exploreshaifali | a flavor can have only one group? | 13:41 |
| exploreshaifali | of we can have flavor belong to more than one group? | 13:41 |
| Eva-i | >The compatibility is not from version X to version Y, it's while you're on version X | 13:41 |
| Eva-i | I don't know what do you mean. We got API version X. This API must be backwards compatible with... what? | 13:41 |
| Eva-i | therve: | 13:41 |
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| therve | Eva-i, itself | 13:47 |
| Eva-i | It's like to say USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with USB 3.0 | 13:48 |
| therve | No, it's zaqar v2.0 from mitaka is compatible with zaqar v2.0 from liberty | 13:49 |
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| Eva-i | therve: oh | 13:50 |
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| Eva-i | flaper87: what is API backwards compatibility in your opinion? | 13:57 |
| flaper87 | Eva-i: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYKdmo9Rg2s | 14:01 |
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| Eva-i | flaper87: good performance =) | 16:14 |
| Eva-i | flaper87: if you will have some time, would you please answer these questions https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-backwards-compatibility-QA ? | 16:15 |
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| therve | Eva-i, I'm 100% positive that v2 must not be compatible with v1.1 | 16:33 |
| therve | That's the whole point of having a v2 | 16:34 |
| Eva-i | therve: okay, how would you answer to "if yes" section of question number 4? | 16:36 |
| therve | Not sure there is a general rule, it's a case by case response | 16:39 |
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| therve | Keeping a completely wrong behavior is stupid | 16:39 |
| Eva-i | therve: what do you think about the particular case I provided? | 16:40 |
| therve | not sure to be honest | 16:40 |
| Eva-i | yes, me too | 16:41 |
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| therve | I think it's an ok change though, because of what's in the bug | 16:42 |
| therve | IE the current behavior is broken for no good reason | 16:43 |
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| vkmc | therve, have you tested the signed urls api? | 16:51 |
| therve | Yes | 16:52 |
| vkmc | is the body for this request ok? curl -i -X POST http://192.168.122.167:8888/v2/queues/shared_queue/share -d "{'methods': ['GET', 'POST']}" -H "X-Auth-Token: $TOKEN" | 16:53 |
| vkmc | not sure what I am missing there | 16:53 |
| therve | That looks correct | 16:55 |
| vkmc | for some reason it hangs on my env | 16:56 |
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| ekarlso | Hey guys | 16:56 |
| ekarlso | looking at your API unit tests arent they really functional tests btw? | 16:56 |
| therve | hangs? | 16:56 |
| vkmc | therve, yeah, send the request and I never got a response | 16:57 |
| vkmc | ekarlso, why you think so? | 16:57 |
| ekarlso | vkmc: since it uses live mongodb ? | 16:58 |
| ekarlso | or doesnt it ? | 16:59 |
| vkmc | therve, http://paste.openstack.org/show/477183/ | 16:59 |
| vkmc | ekarlso, some of the tests require mongo yes | 17:00 |
| vkmc | bbl, lunch | 17:00 |
| therve | vkmc, Dang, no idea | 17:04 |
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