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| flwang | hi guys | 17:50 |
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| flwang | we have meeting after 8 mins in #openstack-meeting-3 | 17:52 |
| vkmc | yes | 17:52 |
| vkmc | :D | 17:52 |
| Eva-i | oki | 17:55 |
| flwang | vkmc: Eva-i: hey how are you? | 17:56 |
| flwang | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/zaqar-meeting-agenda here is the agenda | 17:56 |
| vkmc | thanks for the link | 17:56 |
| vkmc | flwang, good and you? | 17:56 |
| flwang | vkmc: busy busy | 17:57 |
| flwang | vkmc: but happy happy | 17:57 |
| vkmc | busy and happy sounds good | 17:58 |
| flwang | meeting meeting :) | 17:59 |
| flwang | flaper87: ryansb: meeting in #openstack-meeting-3 | 18:00 |
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| flwang | vkmc: Eva-i: a quick review for a tiny patch https://review.openstack.org/320192 :) | 19:07 |
| Eva-i | flwang: is it okay that "tox -e releasenotes" produces html files with almost no useful information? | 19:16 |
| flwang | Eva-i: i can't remember the details | 19:17 |
| flwang | but i think it's a part of the release note init patch | 19:17 |
| flwang | which doesn't impact anything at least | 19:17 |
| flwang | i will take a look later | 19:17 |
| Eva-i | flwang: okay, do you know for what purpose this env exists? | 19:18 |
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| flwang | Eva-i: verify the release note we have a gate job | 19:18 |
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| flwang | oh, sorry, we don't have the the gate job seems | 19:19 |
| flwang | let me check | 19:19 |
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| Eva-i | flwang: we have gate "releasenotes". Here's the result, but almost no info: http://docs-draft.openstack.org/92/320192/2/check/gate-zaqar-releasenotes/b079045//releasenotes/build/html/. Try to click on anything. | 19:20 |
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| flwang | Eva-i: ah, yes, that's it | 19:21 |
| Eva-i | I just don't know what this test environment is testing | 19:21 |
| flwang | Eva-i: we need to fix it | 19:21 |
| flwang | at least the mitaka and liberty should show something | 19:21 |
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| flwang | Eva-i: that's a good catch | 19:22 |
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| Eva-i | flwang: aha, okay. I got an idea. I will find what content should be hosted on these html pages by looking at other projects releasenotes. =) | 19:22 |
| Eva-i | flwang: thanks | 19:23 |
| flwang | Eva-i: here you are http://docs-draft.openstack.org/55/209255/19/check/gate-glance-releasenotes/4a78062//releasenotes/build/html/ | 19:23 |
| Eva-i | flwang: nice, I see | 19:23 |
| Eva-i | flwang: I noticed many doc style problems in wanghao's subscription confirmation spec. Should I mention them all or only serious problems (like broken lists and links, adding notes without using "note::" tag)? See http://docs-draft.openstack.org/55/284555/16/check/gate-zaqar-specs-docs/5abf1c3//doc/build/html/specs/newton/subscription-confirmation-support.html | 19:38 |
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| Eva-i | flwang: in other words how annoying should I be? | 19:51 |
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| Eva-i | vkmc: hello, is it okay to give link to some 3rd party site in a review? | 20:23 |
| vkmc | Eva-i, hey! yes it is fine :) | 20:24 |
| Eva-i | vkmc: oki, thank you | 20:24 |
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| flwang1 | Eva-i: ping | 21:37 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: pong | 21:37 |
| flwang1 | seems the api ref job is blocking https://review.openstack.org/320192 | 21:37 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: yes, I noticed | 21:38 |
| flwang1 | so can you help review the api-ref patch? and let's get it in asap | 21:40 |
| flwang1 | we can improve it later | 21:40 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: I almost finished reviewing subscription confirmation spec. Going to review api-ref patch after sending the review. | 21:42 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: awesome, thanks | 21:42 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: can you please respond to wanghao's reply at this line too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284555/14/specs/newton/subscription-confirmation-support.rst@70? | 22:30 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: yep, sure | 22:31 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: because I think this should be discussed =/ | 22:31 |
| flwang1 | IMHO, the page is not a part of zaqar server | 22:31 |
| flwang1 | but we can keep an example in Zaqar tree | 22:32 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: do you expect the users to setup hosting for this page? :o | 22:32 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: yes, this could be a part of our zaqar-ui, need to discuss with horizon guys | 22:33 |
| flwang1 | but FWIW, it's not a part of zaqar | 22:33 |
| flwang1 | zaqar is just a messaging service | 22:33 |
| flwang1 | that code( the html page ) is out of zaqar's scope | 22:34 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: hm, maybe we should really send this whole generated page in email, and when the user clicks the button, browser or email client sends the request? But I never did it, I'm not sure if it will work... | 22:34 |
| flwang1 | i don't think it works | 22:34 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: I think it's in of Zaqar's scope. For example, Amazon sns doesn't force users to write and host such page somewhere. | 22:37 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: oh, i don't really understand why you come out that idea | 22:38 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: without this page email subscriptions with confirmations are unusable for the user. | 22:38 |
| flwang1 | we should figure out the difference between a service and a dash | 22:39 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: hm... Maybe the confirmation email should kindly ask the user to use curl tool? =) | 22:39 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: no | 22:40 |
| flwang1 | that's too ugly | 22:40 |
| flwang1 | Amazon sns doesn't force users to write and host such page somewhere --- because AWS has hosted it somewhere :D | 22:41 |
| flwang1 | and who is the 'users' in your above msg? | 22:41 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: the current spec contains mentions of "page". But how this page is implemented? There are so many details to be defined... | 22:41 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: the page is really simple | 22:41 |
| flwang1 | i have pasted in the google docs when i presented it in summit design sessions | 22:42 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: http://paste.openstack.org/show/495380/ | 22:43 |
| flwang1 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/495381/ | 22:43 |
| flwang1 | it's just an ajax call with jquery | 22:44 |
| flwang1 | super easy | 22:44 |
| flwang1 | any cloud operator can do that | 22:44 |
| flwang1 | and one thing we're doing different is OpenStack has two kinds of 'users' | 22:44 |
| flwang1 | one is operators/deployers, one is the tenant/end users | 22:45 |
| flwang1 | make sense? | 22:46 |
| flwang1 | and the original docs i presented in summit https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s2RV-BIGhaRJkrARtHAYLjFEUF1mMi53tVBQKFn83jY/edit | 22:46 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: okay, you can tell your point of view to wanghao. I feel a bit awkward of asking cloud operator to host such small thing... Also how Zaqar will know where the cloud operator hosted this page so Zaqar can send to the end user a proper link to this page in subscription confirmation email? (And should cloud operator set this link as Zaqar's option? You can describe in reply to Hao Wang). | 22:53 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: i can't understand your awkward, sorry :) | 22:54 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: for example | 22:54 |
| flwang1 | zaqar supports email as subscriber | 22:55 |
| flwang1 | which does need the operators to setup something | 22:55 |
| flwang1 | to make sure zaqar can send emails | 22:55 |
| flwang1 | those pages are the similar things, IMHO | 22:55 |
| Eva-i | flwang1: mmm | 22:56 |
| flwang1 | you can comment the spec and let's see the others comments | 22:56 |
| flwang1 | as for the page URL, which can be a config in zaqar | 22:56 |
| flwang1 | i have replied | 23:01 |
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| flwang1 | Eva-i: still around? | 23:56 |
| flwang1 | Eva-i: could you pls review this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/321344/ before you off? | 23:56 |
| flwang1 | thanks in advance | 23:56 |
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