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| gasbakid_ | juste a stupid question...mtaylor which ide do u use ??? | 00:24 |
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| mtaylor | gasbakid_: vi | 00:30 |
| mtaylor | gasbakid_: :) | 00:30 |
| mtaylor | gasbakid_: if I wind up doing java development, I use Eclipse for that, because Java without an IDE is painful - but otherwise I just hack in vim. | 00:31 |
| gasbakid_ | you dont like the eclipse pydev | 00:31 |
| gasbakid_ | ??? | 00:32 |
| mtaylor | nah. too much overhead | 00:33 |
| mtaylor | I mean, I'm sure it's fine and all, but unless it's java (which is terribly designed and too complicated) I just prefer vim | 00:34 |
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| littleidea | I'm trying to build the documentation for swift and I'm new to python. Either the README is incorrect, or something else isn't set up correctly. | 01:13 |
| littleidea | baraka:swift andrew$ python setup.py build_sphinx | 01:13 |
| littleidea | comes back: invalid command 'build_sphinx' | 01:14 |
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| littleidea | come on, it Friday night, let's all hang out in IRC and work on stuff :/ | 01:17 |
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| littleidea | so, you have to install sphinx, then it works, crazy | 01:24 |
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| zaitcev | littleidea: You need to have sphinx installed | 02:08 |
| zaitcev | Aaargh | 02:08 |
| littleidea | zaitcev: thanks, I figured it out | 02:08 |
| zaitcev | Yea, sorry. | 02:08 |
| littleidea | now I'm trying to figure out bzr and launchpad :) | 02:08 |
| zaitcev | I was in your position 2 days ago. | 02:09 |
| zaitcev | So my shell history is | 02:10 |
| zaitcev | bzr whoami "Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@redhat.com>" | 02:10 |
| zaitcev | bzr init-repo . | 02:10 |
| zaitcev | bzr lp-login zaitcev | 02:10 |
| zaitcev | bzr branch lp:swift | 02:11 |
| littleidea | that's me now | 02:11 |
| zaitcev | And that's it. Thereafter I made a tarball of it and left repo alone. | 02:11 |
| zaitcev | Oh, I also did "bzr pull" yesterday apparently. | 02:11 |
| littleidea | this is what I did yesterday: http://cloudscaling.com/blog/cloud-computing/technology/openstack-swift-barn-raising | 02:13 |
| littleidea | figured I should probably learn how bzr/lp works | 02:13 |
| zaitcev | I dunno, it looks like an unfortunate ubuntism. I'll just submit patches by e-mail like in every other open project. | 02:14 |
| zaitcev | Ah-ha! http://github.com/cloudscaling/swift-solo.git | 02:15 |
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| johnbergoon | roomba: woot? | 02:53 |
| johnbergoon | oops wrong irc lol | 02:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #621542 in swift "SAIO docs say server image but point to full Ubuntu iso" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621542 | 03:15 |
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| ratasxy | "The first release of openstack will have a gui or wui? | 14:49 |
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| gholt | I can't speak to the nova part, but the swift part is unlikely to have a gui/wui part early on. There are external apps that provide such interfaces, but need a bit of tweaking atm to work with swift as they were originally intended for Rackspace Cloud Files. | 14:56 |
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| ctennis | gholt: thanks for the feedback on my branch merge proposal | 15:20 |
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| gholt | ctennis: No problem, I love that folks are starting to submit stuff. :) I'm a little slow on putting the people together with the companies. You with Cloudscaling? | 15:50 |
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| gholt | ctennis: Oh, nm. I figured out how to read the contributors list: Tarknology | 16:01 |
| ctennis | yeah, though this is via cloudscaling | 16:04 |
| gholt | Ah okay, things make more sense to me now, hehe. | 16:05 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor: is the wiki a separate login from launchpad? | 16:51 |
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| JimCurry | happy saturday openstack! | 16:54 |
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| mtaylor | littleidea: yes... although it's on my todo list to fix that | 17:01 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: gotcha | 17:01 |
| littleidea | I was just about to respond to your email | 17:01 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: my todo list unfortunately continues to grow faster than I can shrink it ... but oh well | 17:02 |
| littleidea | The wiki has some good stuff, but it's hard to find from the projects. | 17:02 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: todo's tend to | 17:02 |
| mtaylor | I think we should have a good entry-point "how to contribute" page that's linked to from just about everywhere... and the how to contribute page should lead you from "sign the cla" to "here's how to actually get, work on and submit code" | 17:02 |
| mtaylor | now that you've pointed that out :) | 17:03 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: redundancy in code is bad, but in communication redundancy is good | 17:04 |
| mtaylor | ++ | 17:04 |
| littleidea | I'm just pointing out the path I'm taking to onramp and where I think it could be improved for people coming after me. you guys are doing great. | 17:05 |
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| mtaylor | littleidea: congrats. your code has been merged. :) | 17:28 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: now I just need to learn python :) | 17:29 |
| mtaylor | hehe | 17:29 |
| mtaylor | minor details | 17:30 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor: I was eyeballing this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/612722 | 17:32 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 612722 in swift "stats-report doesn't do a good job of error reporting" [Undecided,New] | 17:32 |
| littleidea | My python is weak, but it looks like there is also a fair amount that could be refactored, especially at the end where it does all the timing. | 17:33 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: have any advice on good python resources? | 17:35 |
| gholt | littleidea: Go for it! And feel free to bug me if you need. I wrote that code and yeah, it could use some love. :) | 17:35 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: well, python.org is usually a good place | 17:35 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: there's a tutorial that's decent on http://python.org/doc/ (http://docs.python.org/tutorial/) | 17:36 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: at the end where it has the block with a series of blocks that end with 'if options.verbose' what does calling print with no arguments do? | 17:37 |
| gholt | Just prints a blank line. | 17:37 |
| littleidea | doh | 17:39 |
| gholt | This might be useful as a starting point: http://wiki.python.org/moin/MovingToPythonFromOtherLanguages | 17:39 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: ok, one more, what is a def inside of a def setting up? | 17:41 |
| littleidea | gholt: thanks, will read | 17:41 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: the interior function is local in scope to the enclosing function | 17:43 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor: ok, help me to see it with one concrete example, take this: http://gist.github.com/542620 I'll try to explain it, and you tell me how wrong I am. | 17:46 |
| mtaylor | right. so - this is setting up a closure | 17:47 |
| littleidea | so the outer scope is get_error_log, it defines error_log, which does some stuff, and get_error_log returns the results of the call to the inner error_log | 17:47 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: nope. at definition time, the interior function has access to the variables in the outer scope - so the prefix arg to get_error_log which is used in error_log is usable by the function ... | 17:48 |
| mtaylor | but get_error_log is actually returning the function itself - so the return value is a function which when called remembers the prefix arg you passed to get_error_log | 17:48 |
| mtaylor | does that make sense? | 17:49 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: ahh, it's returning the actual function | 17:49 |
| mtaylor | yes | 17:51 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: so we could either use the function in side the scope of the outer function or we have the function name as a first class handle to the function | 17:52 |
| mtaylor | yes | 17:53 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: ok, one more an I think it will mostly make sense, in a call to get_error_log, where does the call to error_log get the value for msg_or_exc? | 17:53 |
| mtaylor | you'd call it like this: error_log("Some message") | 17:54 |
| mtaylor | or if you wanted to do the whole thing, it would be: | 17:54 |
| mtaylor | x = get_error_log("Prefix value") | 17:54 |
| mtaylor | x("Some message") | 17:54 |
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| littleidea | ahh | 17:55 |
| littleidea | so you can keep reusing x with different values as a function | 17:55 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor and gholt, thanks, that helps a lot | 17:56 |
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