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| dendrobates | release meeting in #openstack-meeting in 45 min. | 16:15 |
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| jaypipes | dendrobates: ready for meeting? | 17:03 |
| maplebed | nah. | 17:03 |
| maplebed | whoops! | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | :) | 17:03 |
| jaypipes | wrong chan. | 17:03 |
| maplebed | uh huh. | 17:03 |
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| maplebed | I'm getting an invalid google maps API key popup at https://launchpad.net/~openstack. Known bug? | 17:15 |
| maplebed | (also ~nova and ~swift on launchpad.net) | 17:15 |
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| jaypipes | maplebed: not sure :( | 17:30 |
| soren | maplebed, jaypipes: Reported to #launchpad. | 17:33 |
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| gholt | dendrobates; What do I name blueprints that aren't required for austin, but highly desired? | 18:49 |
| vvuksan | folks where does one find out how to configure | 18:51 |
| vvuksan | .nova-venv ? | 18:51 |
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| dendrobates | gholt: anything you want | 18:58 |
| gholt | Heh, okay. I'm using future- as a prefix for now then. :) | 19:00 |
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| delet-d | in re: http://bit.ly/a0EJOf [high scalability] | 19:15 |
| delet-d | openstack is "dumping amazon compatability mode"? | 19:15 |
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| delet-d | does that mean you won't be able to manage instances with eucatools anymore? | 19:16 |
| heckj | no, theyre not... | 19:16 |
| delet-d | so this guy is just wrong? | 19:16 |
| heckj | something got misconstrued... not sure what happened. | 19:17 |
| delet-d | ok cool | 19:17 |
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| delet-d | just checking | 19:17 |
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| jaypipes | vvuksan: what do you mean? do you mean how to specify options when running nova programs in a virtualenv? | 19:33 |
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| vvuksan | jaypipes: i am not even sure anymore :-). Trying to install Nova and something pointed to tools/install_venv.py | 19:38 |
| vvuksan | i can't even find it any more :-/ | 19:38 |
| jaypipes | vvuksan: it's OK. we use virtualenvs for testing, so if you do ./run_tests.sh, it will ask you if you want to create a virtualenv to run the tests in. | 19:38 |
| jaypipes | vvuksan: and the place the virtualenv is installed is /.nova-venv | 19:39 |
| vvuksan | i see | 19:39 |
| vvuksan | regarding terminology | 19:41 |
| vvuksan | looking here | 19:41 |
| vvuksan | http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstallFestInstructions | 19:41 |
| vvuksan | does Cloud Server refer to Cloud controller or something else ? | 19:41 |
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| rlucio | so an fyi, the install directions are not up to date, as there is no reference to starting the nova-network process | 20:07 |
| vvuksan | yes | 20:07 |
| vvuksan | i noticed there are lots of gaps :-( | 20:07 |
| rlucio | that, and all of the 'simple_network...' command line switches do not exist, they have all been changed in the source to 'flat_network_...' | 20:08 |
| rlucio | if you have questions on getting things running let me know, 'cause I just got things working for the first time like 20 minutes ago | 20:11 |
| vvuksan | ok | 20:13 |
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| vvuksan | rlucio: what directions did you follow? | 20:14 |
| rlucio | vvuksan: i used a couple different direction sets, and a bunch of digging through the codebase | 20:17 |
| vvuksan | should I assume best course of action is set up cloud controller | 20:18 |
| vvuksan | then volume nodes then compute ? | 20:18 |
| rlucio | vvuksan: the directions here: http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallFromSource are "mostly" right | 20:18 |
| vvuksan | ok | 20:19 |
| rlucio | well for a single machine setup (like for development) i have found you need to have nova-api, nova-objectstore, nova-compute, nova-volume, and nova-network all running | 20:19 |
| rlucio | and redis-server of course | 20:19 |
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| vvuksan | right | 20:19 |
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| vvuksan | presumably all the ones other then nova-compute can run in a VM | 20:20 |
| vvuksan | whereas nova-compute needs raw hw | 20:20 |
| rlucio | yea, as long as they can still talk to each other | 20:21 |
| rlucio | i mean, im just guessing but i don't see why not | 20:21 |
| rlucio | you can run everything in a vm, as long as you use the conection_type=fake option (vs libvirt) | 20:21 |
| vvuksan | ah | 20:22 |
| rlucio | for the compute node i mean | 20:24 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor: do you manage the hudon configs? will you share the configs for the hudson jobs? | 20:34 |
| npmap | Hello. | 20:36 |
| npmap | Is openstack usable at this point ? | 20:37 |
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| littleidea | npmap: depends on what usable means to you, it's evolving fast at this point | 20:41 |
| npmap | littleidea: Thank you. I'm talking about taking it for a spin, play a bit with it. | 20:41 |
| littleidea | npmap: there is a big official release targeted for Oct. | 20:41 |
| npmap | littleidea: Thank you. I'm looking forward to it. | 20:42 |
| littleidea | swift is more mature than nova at the moment, but they both 'work', but there are lots of little gaps in features and tools that can be filled in | 20:42 |
| littleidea | npmap: and the development process is very open | 20:43 |
| vvuksan | littleidea: did you actually test swift durability ie. if a node is down ? | 20:43 |
| littleidea | vvuksan: a little bit, but not as much as we will, we just got real hardware racked up for a deployment | 20:44 |
| npmap | I really hope OpenStack will be very good. I'm tired of "lite" versions. | 20:44 |
| littleidea | npmap: here here | 20:44 |
| littleidea | vvuksan: but the Rackspace guys were answering questions about that last night | 20:45 |
| littleidea | if you lose a node, the framework should notice and start to redistribute the replicas of what that node had | 20:46 |
| vvuksan | right | 20:46 |
| vvuksan | i was gonna test that :-). I just hoped someone already did it ;-) | 20:46 |
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| littleidea | what constitutes a 'zone' is configurable and you should have at least 4, so if you lose one, you can still get to R = 3 | 20:47 |
| vvuksan | right | 20:47 |
| littleidea | vvuksan: Someone from the Rackspace crew would have the most insight into what happens in different failures | 20:47 |
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| vishy | as far as i know they have extensively tested failure conditions | 20:57 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: yes! | 20:57 |
| vishy | and the system does really well losing drives, hosts, and even whole racks | 20:57 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: to both | 20:58 |
| littleidea | mtaylor: sweet | 20:58 |
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| mtaylor | littleidea: are you wanting admin access to hudson to be able to modify things? or just to see how it's done? | 20:58 |
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| littleidea | mtaylor: I would poke around to see for now. I'm looking at setting up CI for us and wanted to see how it was set up. | 21:00 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: cool. add a user for yourself there and tell me the username and I'll grant you access | 21:00 |
| littleidea | will do | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: there are two hudson plugins I'm working on that will make some of it different/easier | 21:01 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: one is one to allow automatic spinning up of nodes using cloud server resources - so elastic build farm sorts of thing | 21:01 |
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| mtaylor | littleidea: the other is - right now we're just shelling out to a program called tarmac which does the launchpad integration - I want that to be more directly integrated in with hudson | 21:02 |
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| littleidea | cool, user is made 'littleidea' | 21:03 |
| mtaylor | long-term plan - I want you to be able to go to a web page and say "I'd like a hudson server to manage this project" and have that be essentially the only config you need to do | 21:03 |
| mtaylor | cool | 21:03 |
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| mtaylor | littleidea: you should be able to see job configs now | 21:04 |
| mtaylor | littleidea: (and change them, to be honest) | 21:05 |
| littleidea | danke | 21:05 |
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| littleidea | I won't change things without discussing it with you. | 21:05 |
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| mtaylor | thanks :) | 21:05 |
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| creiht | ~/win 9 | 21:08 |
| creiht | heh.. silly phone | 21:10 |
| rlucio | does anyone have access to update the install directions? it seems like there is alot of confusion since they (the sets linked on the wiki) are no longer correct | 21:12 |
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| gholt | creiht: You have 9 windows? You are a social butterfly! | 21:22 |
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| holoway | mtaylor: have you seen the cloudbees hudson thing? | 21:27 |
| holoway | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RsvQGxBHEQ&feature=player_embedded | 21:27 |
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