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| alekibango | vishy: are u still here? | 01:37 |
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| vishy | alekibango: yup | 01:37 |
| alekibango | it works much nicer now, even got to the launching stage... | 01:38 |
| alekibango | now i get this in compute screen http://pastebin.com/ySa1fYej | 01:40 |
| alekibango | vishy: this paste includes also commands (test screen) http://pastebin.com/zMYrwHCG | 01:42 |
| alekibango | i installed everything from scratch (novascript, branch nova, ...) | 01:42 |
| vishy | did you modprobe kvm? | 01:42 |
| vishy | are you running with qemu or kvm? | 01:43 |
| alekibango | kvm_intel and kvm is inserted from boot | 01:43 |
| alekibango | kvm | 01:43 |
| alekibango | will try qemu now | 01:43 |
| vishy | wait | 01:44 |
| vishy | first restart libvirt | 01:44 |
| alekibango | ok restarting libvirt, restarting nova | 01:44 |
| alekibango | vishy: how long it should take to get screens when i run nova run ? | 01:45 |
| alekibango | ./nova.sh run :) | 01:45 |
| vishy | not long with the new versions | 01:46 |
| alekibango | takes 30 seconds for me | 01:47 |
| alekibango | at least | 01:47 |
| vishy | :( | 01:47 |
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| vishy | most of the time is creating db entries | 01:47 |
| alekibango | iam running ok now | 01:47 |
| alekibango | so now i go to make the LP trick | 01:47 |
| alekibango | vishy: btw it would rock to have some script which would check health of nova installation -- and try to identify potential reason why it is not ok | 01:50 |
| vishy | agreed | 01:50 |
| vishy | there are so many things that can go wrong :( | 01:50 |
| alekibango | and novices are sometimes completely clueless | 01:50 |
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| alekibango | vishy: if you are here and if you can push it, i requested merge | 02:24 |
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| vishy | k try and get to it | 02:25 |
| vishy | thx | 02:25 |
| alekibango | tommorrow i will push some test update :) to get rid of false alarms | 02:25 |
| alekibango | vishy: np, glad to help | 02:25 |
| alekibango | i think i should change bug status also -- but to which state? | 02:28 |
| alekibango | in progress? | 02:29 |
| alekibango | fix committed? | 02:29 |
| alekibango | so its 'in progress' | 02:34 |
| alekibango | vish: thanks for your tips :) | 02:34 |
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| vishy | aleki: np | 02:57 |
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| soren | vishy: I may have a patch for libvirt that does the trick. | 06:10 |
| soren | vishy: I'm testing it right now. | 06:10 |
| vishy | soren: you rock | 06:10 |
| * soren is just the messenger | 06:23 | |
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| soren | vishy: Alright, so trunk is behaving now. Can't make it hang. Need to go have breakfast with the family and take my daughter to daycare, so it'll be a couple of hours, but I'll try to get this backported to 0.8.3 and see how it fares. | 06:41 |
| vishy | rockin | 06:42 |
| vishy | you're a star | 06:42 |
| vishy | i'm going to bed | 06:42 |
| vishy | if you could get me a package or at least a way to build so i can test in the (west coast) morning, we'll bang away at it | 06:42 |
| vishy | i'm going to sleep now | 06:43 |
| soren | vishy: If I get it working, I'll push it to both the maverick and lucid ppa. | 06:43 |
| vishy | excellent | 06:43 |
| soren | Sleep tight. | 06:43 |
| vishy | btwo | 06:43 |
| vishy | just got iscsi working | 06:43 |
| vishy | aoe was causing kernel panics on reboot | 06:44 |
| vishy | :( | 06:44 |
| soren | That's awesome news! | 06:44 |
| vishy | it is also an order of magnitude faster | 06:44 |
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| soren | I can lively imagine. | 06:44 |
| vishy | i need to clean it up a bit before proposing trunk merge | 06:44 |
| * soren spent hours and hours trying to tell the Eucalyptus dudes that aoe was a bad idea | 06:44 | |
| anotherjesse | we only did aoe at first because our eucalyptus system was aoe based | 06:45 |
| soren | anotherjesse: Yeah, I know. | 06:45 |
| anotherjesse | but aoe was causing lvm to lock up | 06:45 |
| anotherjesse | which on reboot would cause kernel panics | 06:45 |
| soren | anotherjesse: Not trying to suggest you guys make equally bad choices :) | 06:45 |
| anotherjesse | which in term caused known issues with raid cards | 06:45 |
| anotherjesse | and we lost about 20% of our raid devices this week | 06:45 |
| * soren has to go to the aforementioned breakfast | 06:45 | |
| soren | anotherjesse: :( | 06:46 |
| anotherjesse | and I'm tired ... so sorry for mis-spellings | 06:46 |
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| soren | vishy: It works excellently when backported to 0.8.3. | 07:10 |
| soren | vishy: I'm heading out now, will upload fixes when I get back. Should definitely be ready for you when you wake up again. | 07:11 |
| soren | vishy: I've been firing up and killing VM's non-stop for the last 20 minutes while simultaneously changing filters from 10 concurrent threads. | 07:12 |
| soren | vishy: No hangs. | 07:12 |
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| chmouel | morning all | 08:02 |
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| soren | chmouel: o/ | 08:21 |
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| soren | vishy: New libvirt pushed to the lucid ppa. | 08:49 |
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| soren | vishy: ...and maverick, too. Enjoy. | 09:05 |
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| alekibango | chmouel: morning! :) can i pvtmsg you? | 10:49 |
| chmouel | alekibango: sure please | 10:53 |
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| dendrobates | morning all | 13:12 |
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| dendrobates | soren: what is the state of nova and swift packages in Mavrick? | 13:14 |
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| alekibango | dendrobates: what do you think about https://code.launchpad.net/~alekibango-danix/nova/lp656012/+merge/37809 ? | 13:36 |
| alekibango | morning :) | 13:36 |
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| jaypipes | dendrobates: mornin. | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: heya, quick tip on using bzr... when you commit a changeset, and the changeset fixes a bug on Launchpad, you can tell Launchpad to link the commit to the bug by doing this: bzr commit --fixes=lp:XXXXXX (where XXXXXX is the launchpad bug number) | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: just a tip :) | 14:08 |
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| alekibango | jaypipes: didnt i do that? :) but thanks, its all new to me | 14:39 |
| alekibango | jaypipes: yes i did, see it in history :) | 14:41 |
| alekibango | *i see it in my shell history | 14:42 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: ok, cool! I saw the comment that it fixed the bug...wanted to make sure you knew that little trick :) | 14:42 |
| alekibango | :) ty | 14:43 |
| alekibango | now i have another problem | 14:43 |
| alekibango | hands up who wants to have nice nova deployment manual, nova administration manual, nova end user manual | 14:44 |
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| faccenda | o/ | 14:49 |
| alekibango | \o/ | 14:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | \o/ | 14:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | late entry, but I'd love one :) | 14:53 |
| alekibango | i know of at least 3 another people... who talked to me before... | 14:54 |
| alekibango | so i have a question for you | 14:54 |
| alekibango | how do you imagine that to happen? | 14:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, I'll write documentation | 14:54 |
| alekibango | do you think anneGentle will write all those manuals? :) | 14:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | if someone helps walk me through how to install | 14:54 |
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| alekibango | i dont think so | 14:54 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: i can help... | 14:54 |
| Ryan_Lane | great. I just made two fresh hosts for this. do I need 3? or is two good? | 14:55 |
| alekibango | try vishy's novascript (but not with USE_VENV) | 14:55 |
| alekibango | it works on debian and ubuntu | 14:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | does this use the ubuntu packages? | 14:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | ideally, I'd prefer not to use a script, and would like to use packages | 14:55 |
| alekibango | it does if configured, i dont use ubuntu packages for now (iam on debian) | 14:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm going to create a puppet manifest while I'm at it | 14:55 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: that script is for single host - for testing | 14:55 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: i am planning FAI installation | 14:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | FAI? | 14:56 |
| alekibango | but back to documentation -- | 14:56 |
| alekibango | please, please, help me define areas which are missing -- http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaDocsNotes | 14:56 |
| alekibango | later we will convert this to wiki pages -- and will create content (or push other people to create it for us) | 14:57 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: FAI is debian fully automated install | 14:57 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah ok | 14:57 |
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| Ryan_Lane | yeah, that would be nice | 14:58 |
| alekibango | http://fai-project.org/ | 14:58 |
| alekibango | new version (after few days) will be able to install also ubuntu servers... | 14:58 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: i am in similar position as you are, i know some parts, most info is missing | 14:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | will still be nice to have puppet manifests, for those who use puppet instead of this | 14:59 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: well that fai plan is my personal one | 14:59 |
| alekibango | but might end up documented as well | 14:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | and since wikimedia uses puppet, I'll need to be making a manifest anyway :) | 14:59 |
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| Ryan_Lane | one problem I've been hitting recently is some of the packages required aren't in any repositories | 15:00 |
| _0x44 | I thought the puppet/chef guys were supposed to have manifests/recipes done by Austin release? | 15:00 |
| Ryan_Lane | that would be useful :) | 15:00 |
| alekibango | _0x44: if thats true, i dont know about it | 15:00 |
| dendrobates | I think chef has some. | 15:01 |
| alekibango | so those things should be documented on wiki :) | 15:01 |
| alekibango | chef cant do automated install of hosts, right? | 15:01 |
| alekibango | fai can | 15:01 |
| dendrobates | Ryan_Lane: what distro and what packages? | 15:01 |
| creiht | Ryan_Lane: which distro are you using? | 15:01 |
| creiht | hehe | 15:01 |
| Ryan_Lane | ubuntu 10.04 | 15:01 |
| _0x44 | dendrobates: I think that's because opscode attended or hosted an openstack hackathon | 15:01 |
| dendrobates | are you installing from the ppa or source | 15:01 |
| Ryan_Lane | now I need to find the package missing... it was a python package | 15:01 |
| Ryan_Lane | ppa | 15:01 |
| alekibango | dendrobates, creiht, _0x44: please look there and help us to edit the basic structure | 15:01 |
| alekibango | http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaDocsNotes | 15:02 |
| Ryan_Lane | this was a couple weeks ago, so it may be fixed now | 15:02 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: if thats you the pink one, give yourself a name and please help | 15:02 |
| Ryan_Lane | will do | 15:02 |
| _0x44 | alekibango: Looking now | 15:02 |
| dendrobates | Ryan_Lane: the ppa packages are rebuild daily from snapshots so on any given day they could be broken | 15:02 |
| alekibango | thanks... more people will soon help | 15:02 |
| alekibango | they sleep now | 15:02 |
| alekibango | or are afk | 15:02 |
| Ryan_Lane | dendrobates: yeah, I know I'm trying things out kind of early :) | 15:03 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: no its not early | 15:04 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: does annegentle know about this etherpad? She can help coordinate | 15:04 |
| alekibango | we need to write those manuals and test them NOW so it will be ready around release | 15:04 |
| Ryan_Lane | you guys are about to have a stable release, right? | 15:04 |
| alekibango | dendrobates: she told me to go ahead | 15:04 |
| alekibango | to create wiki | 15:04 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: awesome | 15:04 |
| alekibango | but i did this etherpad first | 15:04 |
| alekibango | so we can talk about it first | 15:04 |
| dendrobates | Ryan_Lane: for some value of stable, yes | 15:04 |
| alekibango | annegentle: http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaDocsNotes | 15:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | sooo.... I happen to be a wiki admin, if you guys need help | 15:05 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: no problem imho... we need content | 15:05 |
| creiht | haha | 15:05 |
| creiht | we should have all of our install instructions on wikipedia :) | 15:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 15:05 |
| Ryan_Lane | you don't want your content constantly deleted do you? :D | 15:06 |
| alekibango | i dont believe wikipeda a bit :) | 15:06 |
| creiht | hehe | 15:06 |
| dendrobates | Ryan_Lane: we always need help. annegentle is our tech writer. She can point you to something useful | 15:06 |
| alekibango | wikipedia lost credibility for me when they defined that truth is not important | 15:07 |
| alekibango | as a rule | 15:07 |
| Ryan_Lane | meh. it isn't. :) | 15:07 |
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| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: :) | 15:07 |
| Ryan_Lane | verifiability is the rule. if something can't be verified, it also can't be verified to be truthful | 15:07 |
| alekibango | anyway, nova docs are very important | 15:07 |
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| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: who has the authority to tell the truth? ruppert murdoch is credible? | 15:08 |
| alekibango | :) | 15:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. hard to install/use without the docs | 15:08 |
| dendrobates | fyi we are releasing all docs under the same apache 2 license as the code | 15:08 |
| alekibango | we need docs to exist around release time, or it will be FAIL | 15:08 |
| alekibango | (as in adoption) | 15:09 |
| alekibango | so please help us any way you can -- if you are not fixing bugs | 15:09 |
| dendrobates | is anyone using uml to test? | 15:09 |
| alekibango | not me | 15:09 |
| dendrobates | I am upgrading a cloud instance to Maverick to test with | 15:10 |
| alekibango | dendrobates: for few people, including me, nova was not useable yesterday | 15:10 |
| alekibango | see my proposed merge for the bug :) | 15:11 |
| dendrobates | soren seems to be offline, it seems he can only work a few 20 hour days in a row. :) | 15:11 |
| alekibango | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/656012 | 15:11 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 656012 in nova "euca-run-instances fails" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:11 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: I saw it. | 15:11 |
| dendrobates | I;ve got merge notification built into my ubuntu desktop, so everytime someone puts in a merge request it pops up and tells me. | 15:12 |
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| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: to isntall nova on more servers, you need to use real DB (mysql,postrgresql) | 15:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. good to know | 15:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | any docs on that? :) | 15:19 |
| alekibango | well, none | 15:19 |
| alekibango | but 1 day ago on irc someone wrote few lines | 15:19 |
| alekibango | http://pastebin.com/Rp70b1aC | 15:20 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: some people promised to help with writing, but we need to start by some platform, structure | 15:22 |
| alekibango | so it will not be lost in the irc logs | 15:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah | 15:23 |
| alekibango | i will need to make nova running in cluster this week | 15:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | if there is a wiki somewhere, I'll start adding stuff in as I go | 15:23 |
| alekibango | me too | 15:23 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: wiki will be there this evening | 15:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | ok | 15:23 |
| alekibango | if you will help me to define the structure, it will be out faster | 15:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah. can do | 15:24 |
| alekibango | for example, iam clueless about nova administration | 15:24 |
| alekibango | :) | 15:24 |
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| alekibango | i can only say there is some nova-manage tool | 15:24 |
| alekibango | and few eucatools (or euca2ools?) | 15:25 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: the admin tools are a bit light right now, that will change over the next couple of releases. | 15:25 |
| alekibango | dendrobates: there is zero documentation | 15:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | a web tool would be very nice :). I know one is being worked on | 15:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | as of now, it seems you treat it just like ec2 | 15:26 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: yes... i might do my own free software web frontend | 15:26 |
| alekibango | but i need to understand nova better first | 15:26 |
| dendrobates | alekibango: yes, we desperately need people to write docs | 15:27 |
| alekibango | Ryan_Lane: i have never poked ec2 | 15:27 |
| Ryan_Lane | ec2 is.... interesting | 15:27 |
| alekibango | dendrobates: i figured that out :) | 15:27 |
| alekibango | thats why i am here | 15:27 |
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| alekibango | dendrobates: i will use all my social engeneering and technical skills to make it happen | 15:28 |
| alekibango | :) | 15:28 |
| dendrobates | thanks | 15:28 |
| alekibango | you know why, i am one of those poor guys who desperately need those docs | 15:29 |
| alekibango | btw what do you guys think about this one -- http://marionette-collective.org/introduction/ | 15:31 |
| alekibango | i would love to have similar one written in python - to manage large ammounts of hosts | 15:31 |
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| alekibango | faccenda: you asked few days ago if now will store images in swift... answer is: not for austin release, but very soon after that one | 15:51 |
| alekibango | oh, only yesterday | 15:51 |
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| ado | Hi, i am new to openstack and i do not understand how openstack will handle large (>5GB) virtual machine images since swift is only an image store | 15:56 |
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| alekibango | ado: please tell more, what is the problem or unfilled need you have? | 16:21 |
| alekibango | or what are u afraid of | 16:22 |
| vishy | soren: fix seems to be working | 16:23 |
| vishy | soren: launching is much slower under heavy load, but that is far better than a complete hang | 16:24 |
| ado | alekibango: lets say i want to run a Windows virtual machine with a 100G disk image and i want that diskimage to be redundantly stored on multiple servers and i want to be able to live migrate that server. How will this be done in openstack ? I now it could be done by ceph or sheepdog but which way goes openstack ? | 16:25 |
| vishy | soren: perhaps we can speed up launch time by being careful about only changing the new xml and not regenerating all of them? | 16:29 |
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| alekibango | ado: ceph is still in development (not suitable for storage), gluster is slow, sheepdog support might be added into nova later (someone told me that he plans to add it). | 16:30 |
| alekibango | other than that i dont feel to be spokeperson for nova as i am new here | 16:31 |
| dendrobates | so far these are the dependencies that are not getting installed with the ppa packages: python-gflags python-carrot python-sqlalchemy | 16:32 |
| alekibango | and i didnt play with images much. but i want the same HA features you want | 16:32 |
| dendrobates | anyone have any others | 16:32 |
| alekibango | so, ado - im starting to work on deployment and admin docs, i will try to make sure it will be answered soon (before release 21st) | 16:33 |
| alekibango | i would say it would be best to use swift as live backend for images | 16:33 |
| alekibango | is that somehow possible? | 16:33 |
| alekibango | for sure it is, but you might need to wait few months | 16:35 |
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| alekibango | or to use sheepdog -- which is similar in style , or ceph, which is afaik also very similar | 16:36 |
| ado | alekibango: I agree, swift is not (yet) the right backend for large vm images. But thanks for all your valuable input | 16:36 |
| alekibango | ado: iam not sure its valuable | 16:36 |
| alekibango | but its my best | 16:36 |
| alekibango | :) | 16:36 |
| dendrobates | newlist of missing modules: python-gflags python-carrot python-sqlalchemy python-daemon python-routes python-eventlet python-greenlet python-redis python-tornado | 16:37 |
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| dendrobates | anyone find any others? | 16:43 |
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| faccenda | alekibango: that's really good news ;) | 16:46 |
| zul | dendrobates: python-greenlet | 16:51 |
| dendrobates | zul: got it | 16:52 |
| dendrobates | zul: we need to rebuild the packages, they are a week old. They might as well be from last year. | 16:52 |
| zul | dendrobates: yeah i know | 16:53 |
| dendrobates | they are completely broken for me in maverick | 16:53 |
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| zul | dendrobates: if soren has newer packages we could probably get a FFE | 16:55 |
| dendrobates | he already is planning for an SRU, but I agree | 16:56 |
| zul | k | 16:56 |
| dendrobates | I wish soren was around, I have questions before I break his packaging | 16:57 |
| faccenda | alekibango: will it be possible to have a S3 storage interface which uses the swift infra-structure in backend? | 17:01 |
| faccenda | or will it just use the swift with the cloudfiles api directly? | 17:01 |
| dendrobates | faccenda: swift does not currently support the s3 api, but we accept patches. :) | 17:02 |
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| faccenda | dendrobates: yeah, i noticed that yesterday... but since Nova seems to offer the s3 api and now looks like it will use the swift backend... i'd like to know how it will be done | 17:04 |
| vishy | soren: avg launch time for ami-tiny with four processes under load with sec groups disabled ~60 seconds, with security groups enabled ~180 seconds, with base group creation commented out ~75 seconds (after making sure they already exist by running the system once). This leads me to believe that we're hitting heavy locking by regenerating the base groups and we can get a big optimization by either a) creating the base groups once on lau | 17:05 |
| vishy | or b) checking to see if they exist before recreating them. I'll probably move them into a driver init like we did for creating the bridges in network unless you have a better idea. | 17:05 |
| alekibango | faccenda: not yet... | 17:05 |
| alekibango | but aftersome time i am sure hybrid clouds will arise | 17:05 |
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| faccenda | alekibango: for the project i am working on, we are concerned about a distributed, redundant and scalable storage service like S3 or cloudfiles... we don't need any virtualization | 17:10 |
| faccenda | i know swift would fit very well | 17:11 |
| faccenda | but seems like the use of the S3 API is mandatory | 17:11 |
| jonwood | faccenda: Is that because of a dependency on existing software? | 17:12 |
| faccenda | jonwood: yep | 17:12 |
| jonwood | Is it something you can change yourselves? Generally converting from S3 to Cloud Files isn't a huge job. | 17:13 |
| faccenda | jonwood: but i don't know if it is possible to change those software in time | 17:13 |
| faccenda | jonwood: we are evaluating that possibility | 17:13 |
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| creiht | faccenda: the basic rest apis of swift and s3 are pretty similar | 17:14 |
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| faccenda | creiht: i believe | 17:17 |
| jdarcy | faccenda: FWIW, one of my projects supports both S3 and Swift as data back ends. They use over 90% common code to do it. | 17:18 |
| faccenda | the problem is: they already use a S3 backend and I think they will keep using it (in parallel to this other backend)... so i think a (1) hybrid like the jdarcy's project, or if is possible to create a (2) interface that translates the S3 calls to cloud files api, or even change (3) swift to offer the s3 interface as an alternative | 17:21 |
| vishy | ado: hopefully someone who is working on glance can chime in here, but I think it will larger images by chunking them and putting them in swift. | 17:21 |
| faccenda | jdarcy: nice to know.. that information will be added in my evaluation report | 17:22 |
| vishy | s/it will larger/it will handle/ | 17:22 |
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| creiht | faccenda: if #3 were to happen, I would be interested in what S3 calls you are interested in making | 17:22 |
| faccenda | creiht: to add it in swift? that would be great | 17:23 |
| creiht | I can't guarrante that will happen anytime soon, but we can start a doc that has the most requested methods | 17:24 |
| creiht | so that if someone were to start, they have a good idea what should be implemented first | 17:24 |
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| faccenda | creiht: nice. that would be really helpful | 17:26 |
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| kevnfx | vishy: regarding "startswith", I'm having the same exception. Appears that virDomainLookupByName is being passed in a long rather than a string. Wasn't instance_id recently changed? | 17:58 |
| vishy | kevnfx: there is a fix posted, it involves changing nova/db/sqlalchemy/models.py | 18:00 |
| vishy | the name method on instance should return str(self.internal_id) | 18:00 |
| kevnfx | vishy: cool .. thanks! | 18:00 |
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| dendrobates | I'm trying to rebuild the nova packages in the nova ppa. | 18:23 |
| alekibango | kevin: https://code.launchpad.net/~alekibango-danix/nova/lp656012 | 18:23 |
| alekibango | *kevnfx | 18:23 |
| alekibango | xtoddx: ping? | 18:29 |
| vishy | alekibango: did you see jaypipes suggestion of making a test case? | 18:38 |
| vishy | seems like a good idea | 18:38 |
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| alekibango | vishy: test case? where? | 18:39 |
| vishy | in response to your merge proposal | 18:39 |
| alekibango | ah, didnt see - i dont use mails much | 18:39 |
| alekibango | will respond | 18:39 |
| vishy | k | 18:39 |
| alekibango | jaypipes: i have seen your comments to my str() fix. and i think that we need to have automated 'functional' tests (as opposed to 'unit' tests) -- that means to run whole system and test it as normal user would do. i promise to try writing the test, but please do the merge asap, as 4 people already were harmed by the bug | 18:46 |
| alekibango | at least 4 | 18:46 |
| jaypipes | alekibango: yep, working on it :) | 18:46 |
| alekibango | and i will have few more i18n fixes | 18:47 |
| alekibango | :) | 18:47 |
| alekibango | jaypipes, vishy, some tip to get me started with the test case would be sweet | 18:48 |
| alekibango | i could just check if its string :) | 18:49 |
| vishy | alekibango: the ultra simple version would be just to make a test that checks that instance_ref['name'] is a string | 18:50 |
| alekibango | ok, will try | 18:50 |
| alekibango | will take me some time, as i have kids here | 18:50 |
| vishy | I'm thinking that a more complex test would be better, but I can't think of one offhand that would work without actually starting libvirt | 18:50 |
| vishy | and trying to run an instance | 18:51 |
| alekibango | well - as i said, some functional tests would be sweet | 18:51 |
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| alekibango | test all ways to manage it | 18:51 |
| alekibango | should i put it in separate branch or into the one with bugfix | 18:53 |
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| vishy | same one | 19:08 |
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| Abd4llA | alekibango, hi | 19:45 |
| alekibango | hi Abd4llA -- http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaDocsNotes | 19:59 |
| Abd4llA | yeah I'm there now, I pinged ya there | 20:01 |
| Abd4llA | I can c u've been busy ;) | 20:01 |
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| Abd4llA | alekibango, you know I'm quite new to nova, so I don't really know the possibilities there, | 20:09 |
| Abd4llA | so I'll be writing things from my own POV | 20:09 |
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| Abd4llA | based on my previous experience with cloud platforms, the stuff I'd wanna have in an admin manual | 20:10 |
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| alekibango | Abd4llA: well i dont know a thing about nova administration :) even if i can install it, i am still very noob at administering it | 20:18 |
| alekibango | and thats why i am trying to make it happen | 20:19 |
| alekibango | is there anyone experienced in nova aministration enough to be able to line up structure of nice NOVA Administration manual ? -- Not deployment/end user stuff, just for admins; cloud operators. we are interested just in headlines at this moment | 20:21 |
| Abd4llA | yeah, well I'm ver noob @ nova as well, but I've good experience in clouds from my previous job, "used to work for Q-Layer, a SUN acquired cloud computing platform provider" | 20:21 |
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| jaypipes | soren: you've got the last word in this please: https://code.launchpad.net/~ewanmellor/nova/lp654025/+merge/37391 | 20:46 |
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| alekibango | hi kevnfx, would you please be so kind and write about your way to run more nova servers, so it could be included in the administration or deployment manual? | 20:53 |
| alekibango | kevnfx: i will need to run it in few days too and i would like to get boost by reading such notes... | 20:54 |
| alekibango | its becoming FAQ in last days | 20:55 |
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| kevnfx | alekibango: certainly, once I figure it out ;-) ... there's seem to be some problems, but I'm not sure if they're because of my environment or because of bugs ... let me get back to you. | 20:56 |
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| alekibango | kevnfx: talk about it, we will do what we can to help | 20:59 |
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| soren | jaypipes: I' not going to approve it. If someone else feels like it, fine. I think it's a horrible idea, but I don't want to insist. | 21:14 |
| jaypipes | soren: what would you prefer then? | 21:15 |
| soren | vishy: That sounds fine. I didn't think it would take very long, and while I was fiddling with the base filters, it was really convenient that it would always just apply them. | 21:15 |
| soren | jaypipes: vishy's patch that makes calls to project_get_network (or whatever it's called) create the network if it doesn't exist. | 21:16 |
| soren | jaypipes: With that in, it's great. Without it, ewan's patch will mask a very real problem. | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | soren: OK, then. | 21:17 |
| soren | dendrobates: I got a new Nova in Maverick earlier today. I haven't really touched swift since I uploaded it :( | 21:19 |
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| soren | jaypipes: I said something to similar effect in the bug, fwiw. | 21:20 |
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| Abd4llA | alekibango, I'm back | 21:22 |
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| spackest | hey, how goes the september release of swift? | 21:24 |
| creiht | heh | 21:25 |
| spackest | and the mid-october release of nova? | 21:25 |
| creiht | that was a typo :) | 21:25 |
| creiht | they will bosth be realeased in oct | 21:25 |
| spackest | we are very excited to give them both a shot | 21:25 |
| spackest | have several machines sitting and waiting for bits | 21:25 |
| spackest | we're having some networking issues (not related to open stack), but we're trying to get the swift developer release installed | 21:26 |
| spackest | anyone ever look at vmware cloud offereings? | 21:26 |
| spackest | kind of hoping openstack can hang :) | 21:26 |
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| alekibango | Abd4llA: but i am under siege, users are coming for support :) | 21:28 |
| Abd4llA | :D u r @ work? | 21:29 |
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| alekibango | Abd4llA: it depends, i have no workhours :) | 21:53 |
| Abd4llA | I C | 21:53 |
| alekibango | i have also my little linux distro :) and so i help some users when they need | 21:54 |
| alekibango | btw - i thought microsoft is evil, but then google came in. now microsoft wants to scale up to match google again: 'google' this: microsoft government licensing internet access | 21:58 |
| alekibango | they should close the company forcibly, and give the bill gates his own vaccines - designed to depopulate. | 22:00 |
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| Abd4llA | alekibango, pffff, they're masters of control and domination | 22:02 |
| alekibango | Abd4llA: imho bill is not a master, he is only a doggie for the real masters | 22:03 |
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| alekibango | Abd4llA: they need to stop internet 'rumours' so they can continue to work in the dark | 22:07 |
| alekibango | ... while they are pushing this to people who disagree with the agenda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfnddMpzPsM | 22:08 |
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