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| Orman | Hey guys | 01:11 |
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| Orman | annegentle: You on? | 01:17 |
| Orman | alekibango: You there? | 01:22 |
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| Orman | Hey | 01:27 |
| alekibango | hello orman :) | 01:27 |
| Orman | Hey how you've been? :D | 01:27 |
| alekibango | hmm, :) | 01:27 |
| alekibango | all other members of my family are on 6-day vacation right now, so lonely | 01:28 |
| Orman | I bet. | 01:29 |
| alekibango | luckily that means i can do some work without being interrupted a lot :) | 01:29 |
| Orman | Ok cool. | 01:30 |
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| alekibango | Orman: do you use mumble? | 01:30 |
| Orman | No. | 01:31 |
| alekibango | i think that would be nice for audio conferencing | 01:31 |
| Orman | Yeah | 01:33 |
| Orman | I'll have to look into that. ;D | 01:33 |
| alekibango | i can chat with you later on mumble if you want | 01:33 |
| Orman | Or we can just use the provate chat on here to talk. | 01:38 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #668144 in swift "Bad URL causes ratelimit middleware to send traceback to the client" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668144 | 02:46 |
| Orman | Oooo thanks for telling us | 02:46 |
| Orman | spectorclan: would you like to help us work on writing the outlines to the Nova Security Notes? | 02:47 |
| alekibango | Orman: url? | 02:48 |
| Orman | I was getting to that. | 02:48 |
| Orman | http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaSecurityNotes | 02:48 |
| Orman | Any developers are welcome to help us out on the note. | 02:49 |
| Orman | *notes | 02:49 |
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| Orman | Any developers are welcome to help us write more of the Nova Security Notes in Etherpad. | 03:35 |
| Orman | ;) | 03:35 |
| Orman | http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaSecurityNotes | 03:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #668229 in nova "nova-manage can't find IP address when host is behind a HTTP proxy" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668229 | 09:06 |
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| ranjib | let jot down the centos installation instructions for nova | 09:38 |
| ranjib | wondering if anyone will need that ..:-/ | 09:38 |
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| jaypipes | ranjib: still around? | 12:28 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: pls do add any notes for Centos install here: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall Thanks! | 12:29 |
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| ranjib | yes | 12:39 |
| ranjib | jaypipes: u there? | 12:40 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: yep :) | 12:43 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: how has your install on CentOS gone? | 12:43 |
| ranjib | the nova.sh script , from vishy need to be ported for centos/rhel/fedora ..first | 12:44 |
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| jaypipes | ranjib: k. did you want to work on that porting work, or were you asking if someone else was working on that? | 12:45 |
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| ranjib | otherwise cant add on that wiki | 12:45 |
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| ranjib | i have already done the installation part,... | 12:45 |
| ranjib | for that script | 12:45 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: sorry, I'm not understanding you... are you asking about how to change the wiki, or how to contribute the porting script to vishy? | 12:46 |
| ranjib | rest should not take much time.. till then was planning to edit install from source wiki page | 12:46 |
| ranjib | no...no.. what i was saying is that, theres a separate page on nova install from source | 12:46 |
| ranjib | i can add centos specific steps there... | 12:47 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: instead of the source install wiki page, add the instructions here: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall#Installation_.28Other_distros_like_Debian.2C_Fedora_or_Centos_.29 | 12:47 |
| jaypipes | :) | 12:47 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: feel free to ping annegentle when she's up about it, too :) anne works on the documentation and would appreciate any help. | 12:47 |
| ranjib | the link that you had given.. i need to finish the nova.sh (for centos) before editing | 12:47 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: k, no worries :) | 12:48 |
| ranjib | was wondering if any one else is porting on centos/rhels | 12:48 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: I'm sure there are, yes. | 12:49 |
| jaypipes | ranjib: there's a couple folks from RedHat that hang out on the channel. jdarcy is one. pzaitcev is another... | 12:49 |
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| ranjib | aha.. awesome. | 12:50 |
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| ranjib | jdarcy: hi | 13:14 |
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| dendrobates | The arch board elections are coming up. Only people who have signed the CLA can vote. | 13:18 |
| dendrobates | we really need everyone in the community to vote, for soren, vishy, creiht | 13:20 |
| dendrobates | so please go sign the CLA | 13:20 |
| dendrobates | https://rackspace.echosign.com/public/hostedForm?formid=ABCZR72YX57B | 13:21 |
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| ranjib | dendrobates: voting for CLA? any one can signup? | 13:29 |
| dendrobates | ranjib: yes, and the vote is for our architectural board | 13:30 |
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| dendrobates | just go to the URL and sign up. | 13:31 |
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| jdarcy | Wow, I feel so . . . enfranchised. | 13:40 |
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| dendrobates | jdarcy: my sarcasm detector is going crazy | 13:41 |
| jdarcy | dendrobates: I have that effect generally, but this time I was playing it straight-up. I just signed my agreement. | 13:42 |
| jdarcy | Maybe some day I'll actually contribute something, even. | 13:42 |
| dendrobates | jdarcy: awesome. | 13:42 |
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| BK_man | hi all | 13:52 |
| BK_man | somebody asked me couple days ago about caveats during Austin release installation which I encountered. Here is the one: there is no novarc.template file packaged with nova. That's why nova-manage project zipfile was not working. | 13:54 |
| BK_man | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/nova-2010.1-py2.6.egg/nova/auth/novarc.template' | 13:55 |
| jaypipes | BK_man: hmm, ok then! Could you file that as a bug pls? | 13:55 |
| BK_man | jaypipes: do you have any bug submission guidelines? | 13:55 |
| jaypipes | BK_man: nope, just write what you wrote above :) | 13:56 |
| BK_man | ok, | 13:56 |
| jaypipes | BK_man: may want to tag it with "packaging" or similar, too... | 13:56 |
| BK_man | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+filebug <-- here? | 13:57 |
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| * annegentle signed the CLA finally. And then a guy in a gorilla suit came by. Completely unrelated I'm sure. | 13:57 | |
| soren | BK_man: Yes. | 13:58 |
| BK_man | annegentle: how you did that? /me tried to find some info on that today's morning and didn't succeed | 13:58 |
| soren | BK_man: https://rackspace.echosign.com/public/hostedForm?formid=ABCZR72YX57B | 13:58 |
| annegentle | ranjib: oh a nova.sh for Centos would be excellent, feel free to edit the wiki page when you're done | 13:58 |
| annegentle | I'll update the front page with a link | 13:59 |
| annegentle | front wiki page that is | 13:59 |
| jdarcy | annegentle: I guess you didn't read that part. "The undersigned hereby agrees to be accosted, admonished or assailed by a gorilla or other suitable primate, or a person wearing a suit thereof if no such primate is available at the time of signing." | 13:59 |
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| annegentle | jdarcy: wow what a nice extended legal clause | 14:00 |
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| BK_man | done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/668342 | 14:01 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 668342 in nova "Austin released packaging error" [Undecided,New] | 14:01 |
| BK_man | khm... s/released/release/ | 14:01 |
| BK_man | :-) | 14:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #668342 in nova "Austin released packaging error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/668342 | 14:12 |
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| * jaypipes walking his Dad through installing Skype ... on the command line in Ubuntu! :) \o/ | 14:25 | |
| * jaypipes looks forward to never having to de-virus and de-malware his parents computers ever again. | 14:25 | |
| * dendrobates worded his request badly. | 14:27 | |
| dendrobates | What I want is for the community to be represented in the voting. Currently the CLA signers are not representative of the community in general | 14:28 |
| pvo | jaypipes: I did that with my in-laws 4 years ago. its been magic since. | 14:28 |
| dendrobates | so everyone needs to sign the CLA and vote for who they think is qualified. | 14:28 |
| jaypipes | pvo: :) | 14:30 |
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| annegentle | jaypipes: mtaylor: say can I pick your brains about how to set up hudson to build an "internet ready" set of sphinx docs and a "bundled with the package" set of sphinx docs? I don't want to tack it onto Vish's request for a staging area for testing, but maybe it's a similar request. | 14:40 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: are u asking to link a job to the Tarmac/Hudson patch queue manager to auto-build the sphinx docs to a web location each successful merge? | 14:41 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: it already auto-builds, right, but what I need is to add a _templates folder with an extra layout.html file in it, that builds in only for 'net output. | 14:43 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: hmm, I'm sure it's possible. not sure how to do it. mtaylor would definitely be the person to ask :) | 14:43 |
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| annegentle | jaypipes: the idea is that the 'net output will have GA but the packaged output can be run clean locally, offline. | 14:43 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: I see..yeah, I think mtaylor can help with that :) | 14:44 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: okay, thanks. Just wanted to be sure it's not gonna affect Vish's use case, which is a good one. | 14:44 |
| annegentle | mtaylor FTW! :) | 14:44 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: not aware of vishy's request... is it similar to this? http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaTestingHudson | 14:45 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: that's the one I was thinking of | 14:45 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: k :) | 14:46 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: so... we already do that | 15:26 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: oh, nevermind - I actually just read your whole thing | 15:26 |
| notmyname | dendrobates: any way we could get a map of nominees to IRC names? that way we could see who's actually involved in the community | 15:29 |
| notmyname | and if an arch board nominee isn't even in IRC.... | 15:30 |
| dendrobates | notmyname: that is a great idea. mtaylor suggested that as well. I'll see what I can do | 15:30 |
| * creiht is not chuck thier | 15:30 | |
| creiht | :) | 15:30 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: I think I just need to add the _templates folder and layout.html file on hudson, and I have sudo access, but I don't know where the files need to live. | 15:33 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: then again that may be a gross oversimplification :) | 15:33 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: well... hudson pulls clean from bzr each time - so we do need to figure out how to put it in hudson | 15:37 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: got it. | 15:38 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: but I'm sure we can figure it out | 15:38 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: what is it about the template you're adding that makes it something you wouldn't want in the local doc build for someone? | 15:38 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: Google Analytics code - which wouldn't be useful offline, Chuck pointed that out yesterday | 15:39 |
| mtaylor | ah | 15:39 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: ok. I'll figure that out | 15:42 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: thanks for your help! Feel free to teach me to fish along the way, I'll help where I can. | 15:46 |
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| Orman | Hello | 15:48 |
| Orman | If any developers want to help us out with the Nova Security Notes just let me know your alekibango. | 15:50 |
| Orman | *Or let alekibango know. ;D | 15:50 |
| Orman | http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaSecurityNotes | 15:51 |
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| Orman | It's quiet. | 15:56 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: so, add a folder - doc/source/_ga with the layout.html file in it | 16:06 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: okay | 16:07 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: I've done that locally and it builds successfully with python setup.py build_sphinx. | 16:08 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: cool. so there is a config var that lists where the template dirs are | 16:09 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: ayup | 16:09 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: so I'm thinking we pass a build-time param that sets that differently | 16:10 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: ah cool | 16:10 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: in config.py basically | 16:10 |
| mtaylor | so something like "if env['HUDSON_BUILD']: templates_path = ['_ga','_templates'] ; else: templates_path = ['_templates'] | 16:10 |
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| mtaylor | that will not actually work ... but you get what I mean | 16:10 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: er, conf.py | 16:11 |
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| Orman | What's up | 16:11 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: so I'll add that to conf.py for both nova and swift and request a merge, but we won't know if it works until the merge is done, is there any way to test? Or is it not worth a test effort. | 16:12 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: could you verify locally that changing templates_path in conf.py to templates_path = ['_ga','_templates'] makes the html output what you expect? | 16:13 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: yeah - so, actually... | 16:13 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: yeah that's a good test | 16:13 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/84/ | 16:14 |
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| Orman | So your modifying the conf.py file. | 16:15 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: trying now | 16:15 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: so do that ... and then as a test you can do export HUDSON_BUILD=1 ; python setup.py docs | 16:18 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: ok, build succeeded, but GA code shows in HTML source output (whether using export HUDSON_BUILD=1 or not), is that expected? | 16:21 |
| mtaylor | hrm. no | 16:21 |
| annegentle | should it be HUDSON_PUBLISH_DOCS | 16:21 |
| mtaylor | oh. yes... :) | 16:21 |
| annegentle | :) | 16:21 |
| mtaylor | but also, you shouldn't see the GA code | 16:21 |
| mtaylor | so before setting any env vars | 16:21 |
| mtaylor | we need to make sure that the not getting GA code part works | 16:22 |
| mtaylor | since that's the default behavior | 16:22 |
| annegentle | yeah good point | 16:22 |
| annegentle | oh shoot I didn't rename _templates to _ga | 16:22 |
| annegentle | my bad | 16:22 |
| annegentle | fixing... :) | 16:22 |
| mtaylor | oh wait | 16:22 |
| mtaylor | .... | 16:22 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: AH. ok, slight miscommunication | 16:22 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: don't rename... just change the conf.py code to be: | 16:23 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/85/ | 16:23 |
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| annegentle | well I do like the first way since it would let us potentially have fancier templates online than offline, but I like simple too :) | 16:24 |
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| Orman | Just updated the http://etherpad.openstack.org/NovaSecurityNotes | 16:28 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: well, we can do either | 16:28 |
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| Orman | See Unencrypted Communications at the bottom of the notes. ;D | 16:29 |
| mtaylor | mtaylor: or both ... but if we do the first approach, you want to _add_ a _ga folder and leave the empty templates folder there | 16:29 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: ^^ | 16:29 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: yep I left the empty _templates folder | 16:30 |
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| Orman | Ok guys I'm heading out for a bit. ;D | 16:34 |
| Orman | Be back on soon | 16:35 |
| Orman | God bless everyone and see ya later.' | 16:35 |
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| Orman | :D | 16:35 |
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| jaypipes | termie, soren, vishy: code reviews needed here: https://code.launchpad.net/~justin-fathomdb/nova/raw-disk-images/+merge/38458 thanks! | 16:56 |
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| mdiver | Any other documentation on how to install Nova on Centos ? I don't have internet access on the box, any suggestions ? | 18:39 |
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| pvo | mdiver: I don't know of any centos specific docs yet. vish has a good script on github for ubuntu that needs to be adapted to centos | 18:55 |
| pvo | mdiver: http://github.com/vishvananda/novascript | 18:56 |
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| mtaylor_ | annegentle: checkitout ... nova.openstack.org has the GA stuff in it. :) | 19:18 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: yeah that's because an earlier patch I submitted went through, I think. | 19:28 |
| annegentle | mdiver: earlier today ranjib was going to work on a Centos script, maybe look him up next time he's on | 19:30 |
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| annegentle | huh, the offline scenario for docs suddenly has 2 specific requests. Spooky! :) | 19:31 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: aroo? | 20:03 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: oora? | 20:07 |
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| Orman | Back. ;D | 20:30 |
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| Orman | alekibango: Added some new stuff to the notes. | 20:31 |
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| grizzletooth | Anyone have any input on whether 427Mbps is a good write-speed benchmark to a small GigE based Swift multiserver cluster? The machines can saturate GigE to each other using rsync alone, but when I run a single thread upload I only see about 210Mbps. If I run multiple parallel uploads I get an aggregate of around 427Mbps. SSL turned on or off doesn't effect by more than a % or two. | 20:58 |
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| creiht | grizzletooth: what size of objects are you writing? | 20:59 |
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| jdarcy | Do you really mean Mbps, or MB/s? | 21:02 |
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| creiht | I'm sure Mb, as you can only get 120MB/s out of GigE :) | 21:04 |
| jdarcy | Yeah, I realized that it's only single GigE. | 21:05 |
| creiht | grizzletooth: it also may depend on how many storage servers you have behind the proxy | 21:05 |
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| creiht | As each upload is streamed to 3 backend servers simultaneously | 21:05 |
| creiht | But in our testing we were able to saturate several 10GigE links | 21:06 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: :) | 21:15 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: you said _something_ about being more than one branch of something or something | 21:17 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: yup I didn't even realize until today that it had been merged - the swift merge never happened. So it's Nova only right now. | 21:20 |
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| mtaylor | annegentle: I merged the GA change for nova earlier - do you have a branch up for swift? | 21:21 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: I can do another one that has it, the original proposal also had the Swift multi install in it, but that doc isn't "cooked" all the way yet. | 21:22 |
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| annegentle | mtaylor: I'll do a branch for swift now | 21:23 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: ah - well, no rush or anything | 21:23 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: well, if we can do it now, all the better for tracking both and benchmarking both | 21:25 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: cool | 21:25 |
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| grizzletooth | creiht: 450MB objects; right now only 2 storage servers - with 2 replicas config'd in the ringbuilder | 21:32 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:33 |
| grizzletooth | jdarcy: heh, I am an ISP - so I am very specific in my bandwidth capitalization :) | 21:33 |
| creiht | then yeah that is probably fairly reasonable since you have only 2 backend servers | 21:33 |
| creiht | well | 21:33 |
| creiht | hrm | 21:33 |
| creiht | forget what I just said :) | 21:33 |
| grizzletooth | creiht: I haven't looked so far at the actual utilization on the physical links - only the throughput from the GigE connected client | 21:33 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:34 |
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| grizzletooth | does the proxy actually stream to both backends on an upload? or does it write to one, and let the replication service run after? | 21:34 |
| creiht | it writes to all replicas | 21:34 |
| creiht | at least tries to | 21:35 |
| grizzletooth | I have the proxy server with 1 single gigE entrance, and then a 2nd gige to talk to storage nodes. storage nodes ads gige single link. | 21:35 |
| creiht | and requires at least total replicas/2 successes to return success | 21:35 |
| creiht | grizzletooth: was the client run on the proxy, or on another machine talking to the proxy? | 21:35 |
| grizzletooth | ok then I am probably saturating the storage_net links | 21:35 |
| grizzletooth | both methods | 21:36 |
| grizzletooth | upload from the proxy, and from a machine that could talk GigE to the proxy's external interface. | 21:36 |
| creiht | I would run something like ifstat on all the machines to see what things look like | 21:36 |
| grizzletooth | yup with ifstat I am seeing 480Mbps on each storage node during a write to the proxy. so 960Mbps combined on the proxy output gig | 21:41 |
| grizzletooth | okay - so far so good then :) | 21:41 |
| creiht | ahh | 21:41 |
| creiht | yup :) | 21:42 |
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| Orman | Hello | 21:46 |
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| annegentle | hey Orman | 21:49 |
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| Orman | Hey alekibango | 22:06 |
| Orman | Added some new stuff | 22:06 |
| Orman | alekibango: http://nova.openstack.org/nova.html?highlight=crypto#module-nova.crypto | 22:19 |
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| Orman | Should add the Crypto part to the Nova Security Notes. ;D | 22:30 |
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