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| alekibango | Orman: we dont know what the cheese is. first descibe cheese and you see also holes | 00:07 |
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| Orman | sniffing traffic is one | 00:10 |
| alekibango | :D | 00:10 |
| Orman | We have to protect against this. | 00:11 |
| Orman | Wiht new tools | 00:12 |
| pvo | Orman: vlans and network rules can prevent this. | 00:14 |
| Orman | I just making a point. | 00:15 |
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| mtaylor | pvo: yes! | 01:04 |
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| Orman | alekibango: When do you think we will have the goals done by? | 01:44 |
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| Orman | anyone on | 02:08 |
| alekibango | Orman: not sure... | 02:10 |
| Orman | So how long do you think the goals will take | 02:11 |
| Orman | to add/ | 02:11 |
| alekibango | untill we see the whole picture right | 02:11 |
| alekibango | you know, like debian release :) | 02:12 |
| alekibango | its ready when its redy | 02:12 |
| Orman | I just want to get started on desiging | 02:15 |
| Orman | :) | 02:15 |
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| Orman | alekibango: | 02:58 |
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| alekibango | Orman: ? | 03:19 |
| Orman | Yes | 03:19 |
| Orman | What's up? | 03:21 |
| alekibango | you wanted to tell me something? | 03:21 |
| alekibango | anyway. will send you a file over irc... | 03:21 |
| Orman | Oh yes I did haha | 03:21 |
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| Orman | I think we do need goals,but I hope we can start on designing soon. | 03:22 |
| alekibango | Orman: catch the file | 03:22 |
| Orman | I see it,but can't open it | 03:22 |
| alekibango | use inkscape | 03:22 |
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| alekibango | ha, i uncluded unused layers | 03:23 |
| alekibango | i will send you smaller one | 03:23 |
| alekibango | if you really need, i can make png | 03:24 |
| Orman | Or you could email it to me | 03:24 |
| Orman | png would wokr jpg | 03:24 |
| alekibango | i hate mails | 03:24 |
| alekibango | no it doesnt work | 03:24 |
| alekibango | but it displays something | 03:25 |
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| alekibango | svg is scalable you know | 03:25 |
| Orman | Yeah I know png might work. | 03:26 |
| alekibango | understand that png is only rendering of it | 03:26 |
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| alekibango | svg is source | 03:26 |
| alekibango | its one of my attempts to describe nova | 03:26 |
| alekibango | vishy: are u here? | 03:27 |
| alekibango | Orman: why dont you accept those files from me | 03:27 |
| Orman | SOrry I was busy for a min | 03:27 |
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| jakedahn | http://c0848462.cdn.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/2dac10458befbf12a3c746e2b9bd3df2.png - thoughts? | 05:33 |
| Avant | cool! | 05:34 |
| khussein | jakedahn: haha .. I like it :). | 05:34 |
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| neogenix | jakedahn: awesome, where do we get them ? | 05:46 |
| neogenix | khussein: you're still up? | 05:46 |
| khussein | Yup. | 05:46 |
| jakedahn | neogenix: just came up with the design like an hour ago, not sure what the plan for printing will be | 05:46 |
| jakedahn | would you pay $20 for one? | 05:46 |
| khussein | neogenix: How can I help you? | 05:47 |
| neogenix | jakedahn: probably, although maybe we can get some sponsored, and maybe add in some RS bits ;) | 05:47 |
| jakedahn | debating on whether or not it is best to put it on one of those 'upload design -> ship to buyers' companies, or actually screenprinting | 05:47 |
| neogenix | khussein: i'm too sleepy to say something smart at you right now, but you do know me :P | 05:47 |
| khussein | Let me bring up my secret people file database. | 05:48 |
| neogenix | your first stop should be /whois :P | 05:49 |
| khussein | Heeeey .. how is it going man? | 05:50 |
| neogenix | secret database my hind-quarters! | 05:50 |
| neogenix | are you coming down here every day for the summit btw ? | 05:51 |
| khussein | Database was loading :p. | 05:51 |
| khussein | haha, yes sir. | 05:51 |
| neogenix | must be MySQL... we should get you involved in our analytics project :P | 05:51 |
| khussein | I'll be there this Friday too. | 05:51 |
| neogenix | ah, well if you get stuck down here, you're welcome to stop by at my place instead of making the trip back up | 05:51 |
| khussein | Sure thing .. thanks buddy. Yeah, I am guessing after the summit, hanging out with everyone .. it is gonna get late :). | 05:52 |
| khussein | I am really excited about this summit, I missed the first one. | 05:52 |
| khussein | Are you "presenting" ? | 05:53 |
| neogenix | I believe so, have you seen my blueprint ? | 05:55 |
| khussein | No? send me a link, I'll check it out. | 05:55 |
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| DesiJat | anyone from cloud.com in here? | 06:25 |
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| ranjib | hey all | 08:17 |
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| doude | Hi | 10:08 |
| doude | Can I ask some questions about nova administration on this chat ? | 10:09 |
| ranjib | sure | 10:12 |
| doude | thanks | 10:12 |
| doude | I try ti run nova on a Debian testing amd64 | 10:13 |
| doude | I use the script propose on git hub | 10:13 |
| ranjib | ok | 10:14 |
| doude | on this script the env file is generated by the command nova-manage | 10:15 |
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| doude | but in this file the var EC2_CERT point to an file doesn't exist | 10:17 |
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| doude | Do i need to create this file befor by another command ? | 10:17 |
| doude | the files are certificats | 10:18 |
| doude | for the environement var EC2_CERT, EC2_PRIVATE_KEY and NOVA_CERT | 10:19 |
| doude | I saw another method with the nova-manage commande which generate a zip file withe the file novarc and the certificates | 10:20 |
| doude | the command "nova-manage project environment" must generate the certificat ? | 10:23 |
| ranjib | the certificates sud be generated under CA subfolder | 10:33 |
| doude | so why the generated novarc file doesn't point to this directory ? | 10:38 |
| ranjib | there are seprate shell scripts to generat the root ca , which is invoked automatically | 10:38 |
| ranjib | it should | 10:39 |
| doude | yes, i've got the root ca certificat in the CA dir | 10:39 |
| ranjib | by default it's set to "/CA" | 10:39 |
| doude | but I don't have the other certificates | 10:39 |
| ranjib | instance speficic certificates are generated via euca-add-keypair | 10:40 |
| ranjib | and the generated .pem file you use to to connect to the instances | 10:40 |
| doude | euca-add-keypair generate only the certificate .priv use to to connect to the instances | 10:44 |
| doude | I don't have certificates cert.pem and pk.pem | 10:45 |
| doude | like I have when I use the command "nova-manage project zipfile" | 10:45 |
| ranjib | yes | 10:46 |
| ranjib | let me check | 10:46 |
| doude | ok | 10:48 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #670867 in nova "NoMoreNetworks exception during nova-manage installation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/670867 | 12:36 |
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| piken | I will circulate later today an early alpha of the python based install system with install manifests. | 13:23 |
| ranjib | piken: great | 13:31 |
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| mdiver | all: I'm trying to issue the command euca-run-instances and I'm getting an error "ValueError: String too long " , any idea ??? | 13:36 |
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| mdiver | I've got an error no nova-network.log saying : "nova.exception.NotFound: No network for id 1" .. Any idea ??? | 14:00 |
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| jaypipes | mdiver: any way related to this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/670867 | 14:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 670867 in nova "NoMoreNetworks exception during nova-manage installation" [Undecided,New] | 14:04 |
| jaypipes | piken: do you have a blueprint or spec page for that python install system? | 14:05 |
| mdiver | jaypipes: One thing that I've realized is , that I have to create the Network first.. | 14:06 |
| jaypipes | mdiver: are you following along the installation tutorial? | 14:06 |
| dendrobates | just so everyone knows, we have 63 approved blueprints and 39 slots, so arbitrary cuts are coming | 14:07 |
| mdiver | jaypipes: Yes. | 14:07 |
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| dendrobates | for the summit ^^^ | 14:07 |
| mdiver | jaypipes: I'm running Centos though | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | mdiver: k | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | mdiver: pls do update the install docs if you find an error! :) | 14:09 |
| piken | jaypipes: No, I do not a the moment. But I will submit a blue print when I get a chance. | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | piken: are you coming to the summit? | 14:11 |
| mdiver | jaypipes: I've created the networking, nova-manage create network 10.0..... , restarted nova-network, and still getting nova.exception.NotFound: No network for id 1 | 14:11 |
| dendrobates | Daviey: are you around? | 14:12 |
| pvo | dendrobates: I was looking for the other blueprint for shared-ips but I didn't see it. | 14:12 |
| piken | jaypipes: No, I cannot make it. | 14:12 |
| pvo | I saw one for shared-image-groups | 14:12 |
| pvo | er, shared-ip-groups, I mean | 14:12 |
| jaypipes | mdiver: :( I would suggest entering a bug and someone will investigate. either that, or ping vishy :) | 14:12 |
| dendrobates | pvo: is yours different, I might have been hasty. I am going through many bps in a short period of time | 14:13 |
| dendrobates | I guess I thought yours was for shared ip groups too | 14:13 |
| pvo | mine was for sharing ips between instances with xenserver | 14:14 |
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| piken | Ok, I think I know what mdivers issue is with networking. Let me paint a picture as to how our network is setup so you have an idea. | 14:14 |
| pvo | shared-ip-groups will be apart of that though | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | pvo: talk to eday on that. I think he worked on the shared-ip-groups thing.. | 14:14 |
| piken | We are running the physical nodes on infiniband with ip over ib setup. | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | piken: nice. | 14:15 |
| pvo | jaypipes: yea, I was going to talk to eday but I think his bps is a related, but different | 14:15 |
| piken | Each node needs its own /32 for the ip ranges for the vm's as they cannot share subnets between nodes due to the ip routing needed for infiniband | 14:15 |
| dendrobates | pvo we can still just use one blueprint and have one discussion | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | piken: ah. makes sense. | 14:16 |
| piken | Is there a way to set nova up to deploy vm's to the nodes with a set range of ip's it can use on each node? | 14:16 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: only if it refers to the same thing...doesn't sound like it. | 14:16 |
| piken | Creating vnets won't work due to it as KVM and virtio thinks what ops did was not even possible. lol | 14:16 |
| dendrobates | IIUC, one is a subset of the other | 14:17 |
| pvo | dendrobates: ok, I'll update eday's. | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | piken: hmm, not sure. haven't tried that. however, there is a FlatManager and DHCPManager style for networking... | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | piken: the default is VlanManager still I think? | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: ah, k | 14:17 |
| pvo | dendrobates: what should we do for features that are going to be hypervisor specific? | 14:17 |
| piken | What does FaltManager do as I don't know if DHCPManager will work unless we can manage the DHCP assignments per node | 14:18 |
| pvo | should we include a 'not implemented' in the other compute nodes for kvm, uml, etc..? | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | pvo: prefix all those blueprints with this-blueprint-is-hypervisor-specific. :P | 14:18 |
| pvo | xs-*, which I"ve done. | 14:18 |
| jaypipes | pvo: I saw. I was joking :) | 14:18 |
| pvo | but it raises a different question | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | piken: FlatManager allows you to set static IPs for a range of addresses IIRC. | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | piken: range of static IPs... you know what I mean. :) | 14:19 |
| pvo | what is the right way to add features to a specific hypervisor that isn't getting implemented in another at the same time? | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | pvo: there are drivers for each HV. each virt template can include functionality specific to one HV if I read the code corectly... | 14:20 |
| piken | hmm, would it allow us to set ranges of statics based on the ip address of the node being provisioned too? | 14:20 |
| ttx | anotherjesse, vishy, termie: you should register your attendance to the summit at: https://launchpad.net/sprints/ods-b/+attend | 14:20 |
| jaypipes | pvo: there's a few things that need to standardize (like power states), but other things can be specific to an HV. | 14:20 |
| pvo | jaypipes: agreed there... I foresee problems though. | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | pvo: up until now, each virt driver module has a set of flags specific to it | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | pvo: explain? | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | pvo: or rather, elaborate? :) | 14:21 |
| pvo | let me think on it more. Maybe I typed too soon | 14:21 |
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| piken | also, I just registered the blueprint for the unified install system. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/unified-install-system | 14:25 |
| ttx | dendrobates: apart from the three aforementioned guys, we are only missing rlenglet, Todd Willey, Ziad Sawalha. | 14:28 |
| ttx | (in the "session leads dept") | 14:28 |
| ttx | dendrobates: also missing "MSFT" who is supposed to present the hyperv session | 14:29 |
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| ttx | xtoddx: you should register your attendance to the summit at: https://launchpad.net/sprints/ods-b/+attend | 14:32 |
| dendrobates | xtoddx: are you coming to the summit | 14:33 |
| dendrobates | ziad will be there | 14:33 |
| ttx | dendrobates: I can force his attendance | 14:34 |
| ttx | (I think) | 14:34 |
| ttx | dendrobates: (for ziad) | 14:35 |
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| piken | What wiki should I put my spec on for the unified install system. | 14:36 |
| dendrobates | I think rlenglet or someone representing midokura will attend | 14:38 |
| dendrobates | We can cancel if they don't show | 14:39 |
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| mdiver | Now I'm getting InstanceLimitExceeded quota | 14:44 |
| mdiver | any idea ? | 14:45 |
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| zul | http://swift.openstack.org/getting_started.html....ummm....its "Ubuntu" not "Unbutu" ;) | 14:51 |
| piken | lol | 14:51 |
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| notmyname | zul: just patched it. should be pushed by hudson/tarmac/whatever soon | 14:56 |
| zul | notmyname: thanks | 14:56 |
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| creiht | mtaylor: reminder to get swift/1.1 into tarmac/hudson :) | 15:00 |
| Dweezahr | Is it possible to get the administrative Nova working in a VM? | 15:01 |
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| dendrobates | zul: next time fix it yourself. It's about as much work as posting it to the channel. damn lazy canadians :) | 15:06 |
| creiht | hah | 15:06 |
| zul | dendrobates: heh | 15:06 |
| annegentle | notmyname: ha, thanks for fixing! | 15:08 |
| Dweezahr | I get an error no 111 when issuing euca-describe-instances | 15:10 |
| Dweezahr | I am running 10.04 LTS in VMware | 15:10 |
| annegentle | piken: for unified install go ahead and put it on wiki.openstack.org, I think | 15:11 |
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| piken | k | 15:12 |
| piken | annegentle: When I get a chance to grab it from my home server, I will get it up. | 15:15 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 15:23 |
| piken | hi | 15:27 |
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| pvo | soren: did you say you've mounted vhd's on a loopback before? | 15:44 |
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| soren | pvo: Yes. | 15:47 |
| soren | czajkowski: oh hai :) | 15:48 |
| czajkowski | soren: hey there said I'd pop my head in | 15:49 |
| soren | czajkowski: Was this on Tuesday? Tuesday's a bit blurry :) | 15:49 |
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| dendrobates | soren: probably at UDS | 15:52 |
| _0x44 | dendrobates: RS fucked up the speaker release. You should get that fixed. | 15:52 |
| soren | dendrobates: Yes, Tuesday at UDS is slightly blurry. Tuesdays in general are fine. :) | 15:53 |
| soren | "the speaker release"? What's that? | 15:53 |
| dendrobates | _0x44: in what way, I haven't seen it. | 15:53 |
| creiht | http://www.readwriteweb.com/cloud/2010/11/oracle-drops-innodb-from-mysql.php | 15:54 |
| soren | *gasp* | 15:54 |
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| dendrobates | holy crap | 15:55 |
| _0x44 | dendrobates: It only applies to RS employees | 15:55 |
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| creiht | _0x44: link? | 15:55 |
| _0x44 | creiht: It's still in the GPL version until 2015, but they dropped it from their proprietary licensed you can link to it package | 15:55 |
| creiht | right | 15:56 |
| dendrobates | _0x44: can you send me a copy, and tell exactly what is wrong | 15:56 |
| _0x44 | creiht: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1868171 explains more succintly than I can | 15:56 |
| creiht | either way, it isn't a good sign of things to come | 15:56 |
| dendrobates | nope I hope oracle doesn't ever buy rackspace | 15:57 |
| _0x44 | dendrobates: Josh mentioned it and I only have a printout. In the first para of the RS Master release for the summit it says "I, the undersigned employee of Rackspace US, Inc." | 15:58 |
| _0x44 | dendrobates: He might have been sent the wrong release | 15:58 |
| dendrobates | ha | 15:58 |
| dendrobates | well the tech tracks don't have speakers, so not our problem | 15:59 |
| _0x44 | Is the keynote tracked? | 15:59 |
| dendrobates | keynote? | 15:59 |
| _0x44 | Don't mind me, I might have misheard | 15:59 |
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| czajkowski | soren: no idea I'm just back from USA this morning | 16:02 |
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| soren | czajkowski: Oh, wow. | 16:06 |
| czajkowski | soren: spent 3 days in disney :D | 16:06 |
| czajkowski | soren: moving to the UK in the morning for 6 months | 16:07 |
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| soren | czajkowski: Big day! | 16:13 |
| soren | Oh, have to run | 16:13 |
| czajkowski | toodles | 16:13 |
| creiht | annegentle: ok I'm done with the multi-server docs for now | 16:20 |
| creiht | so feel free to take a look/edit/merge :) | 16:20 |
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| doude | Hi | 16:33 |
| doude | I have some troubles to run Nova on a debian testing | 16:35 |
| doude | can you help me ? | 16:35 |
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| vishy | reading scrollback | 16:47 |
| vishy | the issue with NoMoreNetworks is probably due to different workers being started from different directories and hence not using the same db file | 16:47 |
| vishy | InstanceLImitExceeded, you can change your quota with nova-manage, or you can terminate the instances with euca-terminate-instances so that they aren't used in quota calcs | 16:48 |
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| vishy | dendrobates: there are some blueprints that could be combined in to one session, for example, there are 3 relating to networks | 16:49 |
| vishy | piken: One of my blueprints is making the required changes that would allow you to get an ip based on the host that the vm is on. The best way to do this is to move allocation down the stack | 16:50 |
| vishy | blueprint is here: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/move-ip-allocation | 16:52 |
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| annegentle | creiht: awesome, thanks for finishing up multi-server swift, I'll put a merge request in | 17:21 |
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| itaifrenkel | hello. I've got a newbie installation Q. Is anyone online ? | 17:26 |
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| annegentle | creiht: the google analytics code isn't on swift.openstack.org, is there something in the build environment preventing it at build time? | 17:29 |
| annegentle | itaifrenkel: sure, go ahead | 17:29 |
| Pentheus | I don't see any bugs filed for swift/common/internal_proxy which was added (I believe) for the stats parsing; is there anyone that knows about any that have not yet been filed? I see it failing to perform successful requests, i.e. somehow all of the GET/HEADs it produces result in 404s. I don't see anything obviously wrong with how it is building its URLs. | 17:30 |
| khussein | The wiki is updated now http://wiki.openstack.org/openstack-authn | 17:30 |
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| itaifrenkel | my Q is how does external dependencies work ? For example redis installations or any other prerequisite software. Is the openstack just the wrapper? | 17:35 |
| itaifrenkel | What about dependencies on implementations that are not opensource ? | 17:36 |
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| dendrobates | itaifrenkel: external dependencies will be the responsibility of the implementor to install | 17:38 |
| dendrobates | itaifrenkel: whether they are open or not. | 17:38 |
| itaifrenkel | The implementor you mean the sysadmin doing the integration? | 17:39 |
| itaifrenkel | What about tests. How they can all pass in the automatic build without the dependencies. | 17:39 |
| dendrobates | itaifrenkel: we cannot know where they should be installed or how they should be configured for any specific implementation | 17:39 |
| dendrobates | we can make assumptions in a test env that we cannot in a real env | 17:40 |
| dendrobates | for example, we can run everything on one system | 17:40 |
| dendrobates | but that is not a reasonable productuon setup | 17:40 |
| dendrobates | and, we no longer require redis. | 17:40 |
| dendrobates | rabbitmq is a good example though | 17:41 |
| itaifrenkel | ok got it. So the tests have a rabbitmq mock? | 17:41 |
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| dendrobates | yes, we have fake everything. | 17:46 |
| devcamcar | http://gigaom.com/cloud/canonical-ceo-on-arm-and-openstack-for-ubuntu-servers/ | 17:46 |
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| itaifrenkel | ok thanks! | 17:47 |
| dendrobates | devcamcar: he warmed up even more over the course of UDS | 17:47 |
| devcamcar | thats awesome | 17:48 |
| devcamcar | he's a pretty big investor in eucalyptus isn't he? | 17:48 |
| zaitcev | Like Bin Laden said, people bet on the strong horse. | 17:49 |
| zaitcev | Become stronger than Eucalyptus and voila. | 17:49 |
| zaitcev | Same thing happened to Xen and KVM before. | 17:49 |
| devcamcar | indeed | 17:50 |
| dendrobates | devcamcar: canonical will be at our summit in force. | 17:52 |
| zaitcev | Maybe I can fight them to the death. | 17:53 |
| zaitcev | In a cage. | 17:53 |
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| jdarcy | I guess I'm glad I won't be there. ;) | 17:54 |
| dendrobates | jdarcy: will you ne at fudcon in Jan? | 17:55 |
| zaitcev | The thing about Canonical is that their engineering capacity is too thin, relatively speaking. It's not like they develop anything except thin slivers of code like Unity. | 17:55 |
| zaitcev | So, they aim to compensate with promiscuity and jumping on any fad. | 17:55 |
| zaitcev | That's how shipping Eucalyptus in Ubuntu came about. | 17:55 |
| dendrobates | zaitcev: I don't think that is true. I think they develop too many non free things. | 17:55 |
| rbergeron | dendrobates: are you coming to fudcon in january? :) | 17:56 |
| jdarcy | dendrobates: No current plans, but I should go to *something* and that'd be a good one. | 17:56 |
| dendrobates | rbergeron: sure. | 17:56 |
| zaitcev | Yea, and what do you think Eucalyptus is? They posted the code and then refused to accept any patches. | 17:56 |
| rbergeron | jdarcy: you should come | 17:56 |
| zaitcev | Some open that is. | 17:56 |
| rbergeron | in fact i thought you were ;) | 17:56 |
| zaitcev | In OpenStack I just posted a patch and voila, incorporated | 17:57 |
| jdarcy | That's Tempe, right? | 17:57 |
| rbergeron | yup. | 17:57 |
| zaitcev | Actually heck my fix was too hasty, someone from Rackspace reworked it | 17:57 |
| jdarcy | Never been there. It'd be nice. ;) | 17:57 |
| dendrobates | zaitcev: to be honest many people left Canonical because of that. And it was not canonicals doing, far from it actually. | 17:57 |
| rbergeron | indeed. | 17:58 |
| dendrobates | rbergeron: I thought I would see if jaypipes wanted to join me. | 17:58 |
| zaitcev | I'm going to drive to Fudcon, although it's the same distance from me as San Antonio. | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: quoi? | 17:58 |
| rbergeron | zaitcev: where are you located? | 17:58 |
| zaitcev | rbergeron: Albuquerque. | 17:59 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: I was going to ask if you wanted to go to fudcon with me in Jan. | 17:59 |
| rbergeron | ahhhh. you're in smooge's neighborhood :) | 17:59 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: I get back from holiday on th 6th Jan. Is it after that? and where? | 17:59 |
| rbergeron | zaitcev: would you go via 40 to flagstaff? | 17:59 |
| rbergeron | jaypipes: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011 | 17:59 |
| rbergeron | jan 29-31 in arizona | 17:59 |
| zaitcev | rbergeron: Probably. Whatever Google suggests. | 17:59 |
| * rbergeron is in flagstaff | 18:00 | |
| jaypipes | hmm, interesting. | 18:00 |
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| zaitcev | I was going to present something like "Project Hail Postmortem" at Fudcon, but I dunno. Maybe we can look into iwhd and the Deltacoud's storage side, maybe Swift. | 18:01 |
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| dendrobates | rbergeron: do you want me to present anything? | 18:19 |
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| rbergeron | I think it would be great to have a session on openstack - whether you want to do a "how to get it running" type thing, or more of a high level "what it is and what you can do and here's our roadmap" kind of thing, or both - up to you. | 18:20 |
| dendrobates | I would really like to do a bof or something like it about how we can work better with fedora. | 18:21 |
| rbergeron | I think it'd be interesting also to have maybe a session on interoperability-type stuff - how all of these different things can / do / won't work together, as far as OpenStack, Deltacloud, etc. go. | 18:21 |
| rbergeron | If maybe you + other folks are interested in discussing that. | 18:22 |
| rbergeron | :) | 18:22 |
| dendrobates | rbergeron: I'll think it over, is there a deadline? | 18:22 |
| zaitcev | Deltacloud is management, as far as I can tell. You know, iwhd has a CF back-end. | 18:22 |
| zaitcev | I don't know if anyone uses it though. | 18:22 |
| rbergeron | dendrobates: No hard and fast deadlines - I'd say if you can put something on the wiki before the end of 2010, you'd be find. We try to keep some of it barcamp-style, and other parts we try to schedule. | 18:24 |
| dendrobates | rbergeron: awesome. | 18:24 |
| jaypipes | vishy: good point on lazy-loaded modules... | 18:24 |
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| rbergeron | zaitcev: as I always say - most everyone knows better than I do, so I encourage you good folks to propose your own sessions :) | 18:26 |
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| dendrobates | rbergeron: do you know if Amber Graner is scheduled to come? | 18:27 |
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| rbergeron | dendrobates: she had been planning on it previously - I know she had procured money for either the hotel or the airplane portion, and was pretty sure she could come up with the other half. | 18:29 |
| rbergeron | that was pre-fire, though, and I haven't talked to her about fudcon sicne that point | 18:29 |
| dendrobates | yeah, that was crazy | 18:29 |
| rbergeron | But she had been planning on definitely attending, so I have to think she still will. | 18:29 |
| rbergeron | Indeed it was :/ | 18:30 |
| cole | amazing story | 18:30 |
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| rbergeron | dendrobates: as an FYI we're planning on having OpenStack as a feature (assuming everything gets packaged, which is in progress) so it would be cool to have some folks around to talk about it - not to mention there will likely be plenty of people interested in actually tinkering with it / using it who are from sysadmin land | 18:41 |
| creiht | annegentle: you will have to ask monty about the analytics thing | 18:43 |
| annegentle | creiht: okay, will do. | 18:44 |
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| creiht | Pentheus: Are you talking about the internal_proxy in terms of the stats stuff? | 18:48 |
| Pentheus | creiht: yup | 18:50 |
| creiht | Pentheus: can you paste the logs/error messages to paste.openstack.org? | 18:51 |
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| Pentheus | creiht: Let me throw together the evidence | 18:53 |
| creiht | Pentheus: cool... that will be very helpful for debugging the issue | 18:54 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: check again - I just added the env var to the hudson job | 19:03 |
| mtaylor | creiht: and I haven't forgotten about you :) | 19:03 |
| creiht | :) | 19:03 |
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| Pentheus1 | creiht: I included a small patch in the paste which I believe actually fixes the issue. Saw the issue while putting together the pastes to demonstrate the problem. | 19:15 |
| Pentheus1 | creiht: http://paste.openstack.org/show/93/ | 19:15 |
| * creiht defers to notmyname | 19:16 | |
| creiht | notmyname: -^ | 19:16 |
| Pentheus1 | His branch was merged | 19:16 |
| Pentheus1 | doesn't that make it your problem now :-) | 19:16 |
| Pentheus1 | hehe | 19:17 |
| creiht | hah | 19:17 |
| creiht | Pentheus1: I beleive you are correct in your patch, but I stlil defer to notmyname, as stats is his baby :) | 19:18 |
| Pentheus1 | creiht: oh of course, that sort of deferral is honorable :-) | 19:19 |
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| Pentheus1 | notmyname: Thanks for the stats branch by the way, saved me from some terrible regexp/split pain | 19:20 |
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| jaypipes | gah, just spent another hour on phone with Dad... now he has Ubuntu, he wants to install every free software package under the sun. :) | 19:40 |
| jaypipes | at least I'm not de-virusing his computers over the phone anymore... | 19:40 |
| jaypipes | vishy, soren, creiht: congrats on your prize. ;) | 19:41 |
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| creiht | heh | 19:42 |
| creiht | more meetings :/ | 19:42 |
| jaypipes | creiht: :) | 19:42 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: thanks for adding the env var to the doc build! | 19:43 |
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| zul | soren: congrats | 19:49 |
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| cole | for anyone on ubuntu 10.10 - https://code.launchpad.net/~coleton/+junk/openstack-installer (thx to soren's blog entry) | 19:55 |
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| soren | zul: on what? | 21:14 |
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| soren | jaypipes: prize? What did I miss? | 21:16 |
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| Orman | Community, Something has come up that I knew before hand needed my attention. I feel I have contributed what I can right now. However due to my schedule in my studies I am signing off. | 21:52 |
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| dendrobates | soren: you were elected to the board | 22:06 |
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| Orman | I will try to get on here when I can,but I don't know if I'll be back. I know it's sudden,but I hope you all understand that for myself my education comes first. | 22:09 |
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| czajkowski | Orman: I'm sure folks will understand, the joys of a community others will always pitch in or step up and there are lots of people involved | 22:19 |
| soren | dendrobates: How can you tell? | 22:22 |
| soren | Oh, there it is! | 22:23 |
| dendrobates | Orman: bye, and please stop by anytime, we aren't going anywhere. | 22:25 |
| Orman | dendrobates: thanks man your understanding and everyone else's. | 22:26 |
| alekibango | Orman: study well and thanks for your work. | 22:26 |
| alekibango | and yes, you can stop by anytime :) | 22:27 |
| Orman | Thank you all and I have all the faith in the world that OpenStack will live on. ;) | 22:27 |
| alekibango | ;) | 22:28 |
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| Orman | Bye guys it's been quite an experience and I thanks for welcoming in. | 22:30 |
| glange_ | bye | 22:30 |
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| Orman | Who knows I might be back or I might be involved in some other Nasa projects. | 22:31 |
| glange | later | 22:31 |
| alekibango | it was nice having you here Orman :) | 22:31 |
| Orman | God bless you all and I am going to email Anne. | 22:31 |
| Orman | alekibango: Thanks man same to you. | 22:31 |
| Orman | God bless guys | 22:31 |
| Orman | bye | 22:31 |
| alekibango | bye | 22:32 |
| xtoddx | Orman: see ya around | 22:32 |
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| jaypipes | soren: the oversight committee :) | 22:49 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #671197 in nova "Smoke tests are broken" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/671197 | 22:51 |
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| devcamcar | https://code.launchpad.net/~devcamcar/nova/improve_smoketests/+merge/40155 | 22:55 |
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| soren | jaypipes: Yeah, got it. Just somehow missed the e-mail. | 23:07 |
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