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| dubsquared | anyone around this evening? | 01:12 |
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| ksteward | I am | 01:12 |
| ksteward | hi | 01:12 |
| ksteward | dubsquared: are you a regular here? | 01:13 |
| ksteward | a question for the group... | 01:14 |
| dubsquared | going to be, just getting heavily involved with openstack at work | 01:14 |
| ksteward | what's the best way to try OS out? Will one server or two servers be needed? | 01:14 |
| ksteward | more than two needed? | 01:15 |
| ksteward | dubsquared: where do you work? | 01:15 |
| dubsquared | http://paste.openstack.org/?reply_to=59 — anyone seen the resolution to this | 01:15 |
| dubsquared | my /tmp is writable, and all services are started | 01:16 |
| dubsquared | i work at Rackspace | 01:16 |
| ksteward | ah, the central instigators of OS | 01:17 |
| ksteward | nice that Rackspace took the leadership role and got OS going | 01:17 |
| ksteward | kudos | 01:17 |
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| dubsquared | Ah, it wasn't just us….many many many folks :D | 01:17 |
| ksteward | right, but it sounded like you guys started the ball rolling, right? | 01:18 |
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| dubsquared | Openstack came from the Rackspace Cloud Files (Swift), and NASA's nebula project (Nove) | 01:18 |
| dubsquared | Nova* | 01:18 |
| ksteward | dubsquared: did you attend the Design Summit? If so, how was it? | 01:18 |
| dubsquared | nebula is built on KVM, and Rackspace Cloud is Xen based atm... | 01:19 |
| dubsquared | there is a lot of work that is going into the dev of OpenStack, as Rackspace will eventually be running it in our production env once it's more mature | 01:19 |
| dubsquared | I did attend, it was very, very, informative! | 01:20 |
| ksteward | lots of enthusiasm and momentum building? | 01:20 |
| dubsquared | Met a lot of good folks, and def seeing the rally come together | 01:20 |
| dubsquared | Yep :) | 01:20 |
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| ksteward | what other big name companies besides Citrix, Dell were there showing support? | 01:20 |
| dubsquared | NTT from Japan had quite a few folks in town, RedHat and Ubuntu had a pretty good showing | 01:21 |
| ksteward | Intel too, i belive | 01:21 |
| ksteward | believe | 01:21 |
| dubsquared | I didn't meet anyone from there, but there were hundreds there, probably so | 01:22 |
| ksteward | so... do you think Amazon will eventually support OS? | 01:22 |
| dubsquared | personally, yes | 01:22 |
| ksteward | what about Microsoft? Will they abandon Azure in favor of OS? | 01:23 |
| dubsquared | Not likely, but they did recently say that HyperV was on-board for OS dev | 01:23 |
| dubsquared | I'm pretty excited to see how that works into future integration | 01:24 |
| ksteward | I personally think Azure is doomed. I heard that only 50 customers are on it. And Ray Ozzie, the CTO who led the dev of Azure, has stepped down recently. | 01:24 |
| dubsquared | That will really scale the reach of OS int'lly | 01:24 |
| dubsquared | Yeah, I'm shocked that Ozzie is out! | 01:24 |
| dubsquared | MS leadership is running out of ppl :) | 01:24 |
| ksteward | and MS isn't replacing him with another CTO | 01:24 |
| ksteward | their proprietary operating system under / in the cloud will be an expense and lock in that people will avoid like the plaque | 01:25 |
| ksteward | plague | 01:25 |
| ksteward | not to mention the unreliability of a Window's operating system will only reduce interest in their cloud. | 01:26 |
| dubsquared | Honestly, MS doesn't make 'bad' products... | 01:27 |
| dubsquared | but you're spot on with the vendor lock in scares | 01:28 |
| ksteward | well I'm not impressed at all with Windows 7 64-bit .... I'm suffering with that at work | 01:28 |
| dubsquared | I think that familiarity that HyperV brings to the table, and being able to integrate that HV into OS will really help MS scale into parts of the cloud possibly previously untouched | 01:29 |
| ksteward | I'd much prefer a LINUX machine, but the company doesn't support that (yet) | 01:29 |
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| ksteward | so what happened to the other open cloud effort (CCID i think it was called)? | 01:30 |
| ksteward | it was started about a year ago with some fanfare and then fizzled? Any of that work move over into OS? | 01:30 |
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| vishy | dubsquared: haven't run into that one but it looks like CA directory isn't set correctly somehow | 02:52 |
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| dubsquared | any more insight into that vishy? | 03:00 |
| vishy | dubsquared: is thare a openssl.cnf in your CA dir? | 03:05 |
| dubsquared | neg | 03:07 |
| dubsquared | where/what step is that gen'd | 03:07 |
| dubsquared | I'm rolling with these, "http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/MultipleServer" and taking notes in what needs to be updated | 03:09 |
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| vishy | that should get run automatically with genrootca.sh | 03:30 |
| vishy | s/run/made | 03:30 |
| vishy | which runs on start of nova-api | 03:32 |
| vishy | dubsquared: did you guys ever get a working centos image? | 03:32 |
| vishy | i'm downloading some iso's to make one | 03:33 |
| dubsquared | yeah, it appears that my nova-api is not starting | 03:34 |
| dubsquared | and on the centOS image, no, we tried 3 and got a similar error on each | 03:34 |
| dubsquared | we could get all the way to the bundle part, through enc… part.X...... | 03:34 |
| dubsquared | then we'd get an error 'expecting:CERTIFICATE' etc etc | 03:35 |
| dubsquared | i have the error sitting around here somewhere…ill look for in a sec | 03:35 |
| dubsquared | IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/nova/virt/libvirt.rescue.qemu.xml.template' | 03:35 |
| dubsquared | so all these files are showing up missing | 03:35 |
| dubsquared | in our working cluster, i see those files exist | 03:35 |
| dubsquared | i don't know where they came from thou :| | 03:36 |
| vishy | dubsquared: people were reporting some files were missing | 03:36 |
| vishy | from austin | 03:36 |
| dubsquared | damn | 03:36 |
| vishy | they are in trunk though | 03:36 |
| dubsquared | well i think I found two of them | 03:37 |
| dubsquared | ah, i think i recall Jordan saying something about that | 03:37 |
| vishy | dubsquared: so the bundle image was working? | 03:37 |
| vishy | * not working | 03:37 |
| dubsquared | it's start, format the filesystem, start creating the image, then spit out all the "part.X's" | 03:38 |
| dubsquared | then error right after that | 03:38 |
| dubsquared | nova.sh will grab from trunk? | 03:38 |
| vishy | yeah | 03:38 |
| dubsquared | or what it the easiest way to get these missing bad boyus | 03:39 |
| dubsquared | s/boyus/boys | 03:39 |
| vishy | dubsquared: so the euca-bundle doesn't work on centos properly? | 03:39 |
| dubsquared | roger | 03:39 |
| vishy | might have to use ec2-bundle :( | 03:39 |
| dubsquared | yeah, that is #2 on my 'stuff to try' list | 03:40 |
| dubsquared | getting another image, from boxen is 1st | 03:40 |
| dubsquared | i keep getting them from the net | 03:40 |
| vishy | i need a centos image by tomorrow, so i'm going to try it | 03:41 |
| dubsquared | haha nice | 03:43 |
| dubsquared | nothing like a little deadline to push the boundaries of "try harder" | 03:43 |
| vishy | unfortunately i've never actually used centos, so this could be exciting | 03:44 |
| dubsquared | that's how i felt installing on 10.04 ubuntu world | 03:44 |
| dubsquared | i typed 'yum apt-get' a few times on accident when i first started... | 03:45 |
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| JordanRinke | well hello there gents | 03:57 |
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| vishy | ok trying a 5.3 image i found on the net first | 04:00 |
| JordanRinke | found the 5.3 image on the eucalyptus site? :-D | 04:01 |
| vishy | :) | 04:01 |
| vishy | afk a bit guys | 04:01 |
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| dubsquared | oh herro jordan | 04:03 |
| dubsquared | welcome to, today | 04:03 |
| JordanRinke | yeah dude, today is pretty awesome | 04:05 |
| JordanRinke | hows your install? | 04:05 |
| dubsquared | it's aight….not quite done | 04:06 |
| dubsquared | i think i ran into the 'missing files' issue | 04:06 |
| dubsquared | nova-api is not starting | 04:06 |
| JordanRinke | so, just run /usr/bin/nova-api | 04:06 |
| dubsquared | and due to that, i cant run my command to get my nova.zip | 04:06 |
| JordanRinke | and it will spit the error to screen | 04:06 |
| JordanRinke | which tells you what file is missing | 04:07 |
| dubsquared | nova.exception.NotFound: Class get_connection cannot be found | 04:07 |
| dubsquared | yeah, i've made it past that part... | 04:07 |
| JordanRinke | thats the error you get when you try to start nova=api | 04:07 |
| dubsquared | haha | 04:08 |
| JordanRinke | ? | 04:08 |
| JordanRinke | give me the last 20 lines or so of your error output - http://paste.openstack.org/ | 04:08 |
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| dubsquared | http://paste.openstack.org/show/120/ | 04:09 |
| JordanRinke | you have all your dependencies installed? | 04:11 |
| dubsquared | afaik | 04:12 |
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| alekibango | annegentle: your screencast ended in a strange way. missing command 'killall' went through the screen and right then you stopped the video. You should show how to navigate in those few screens to read logs (ctrl-a ctrl-n, ctrl-a " etc) | 04:16 |
| alekibango | and running few commands would be also nice | 04:16 |
| alekibango | even if this could be for another video tutorial :) | 04:22 |
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| HU | hi, can the the number of proxy servers be configed to more than 1? I'am worry if there's perfomance problem if quite many requests are processed by proxy. | 07:14 |
| HU | Do the proxy server be the bottle neck of the system ? | 07:15 |
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| JordanRinke | yeah | 07:27 |
| JordanRinke | you can have multiple proxy servers | 07:27 |
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| HU | so could you please give some hints how to properly config the proxy servers to work together if i have 2 proxy servers? | 07:45 |
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| JordanRinke | I *believe* you set them up the same as eachother | 07:46 |
| JordanRinke | the proxy is just another entry point to the same data | 07:46 |
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| HU | if i have install proxy and auth server in one machine 1, and install another proxy server in machine 2, how to configure "default_cluster_url" of auth-server.conf? | 08:29 |
| JordanRinke | i would try setting it to the ip of machine 1 | 08:30 |
| HU | so no special setting for the second proxy server , just config it as proxy 1 and start the service, right? | 08:31 |
| anticw | HU: we run multiple proxies for performance reasons | 08:37 |
| JordanRinke | yey, there you go... someone who knows for sure :D | 08:39 |
| anticw | you also want to bump the # of workers up to something like 2x the number of cores on the system | 08:39 |
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| annegentle | alekibango: yeah I agree, I'll re-record one when I can record more than 5 minutes (notice it stopped at 4:59?) :) Using "throwaway" recorder software. | 14:23 |
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| alekibango | annegentle: recordmydesktop :) | 14:47 |
| alekibango | yet it might make sense to make more, shorter and focused videos | 14:47 |
| annegentle | alekibango: yeah even 5 minutes is too long | 14:48 |
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| pvo | annegentle: I thought 5 min was fine for a tutorial | 15:10 |
| pvo | though I did chuckle when you hesitated on vish's name. : ) | 15:10 |
| pvo | because I would have done the same thing | 15:10 |
| alekibango | :) | 15:11 |
| alekibango | pvo: luckily his irc nick is shorter | 15:12 |
| zul | soren Daviey: around? i was thinking of updating the snapshot in the archvie this week | 15:22 |
| soren | zul: Feel free. | 15:23 |
| zul | soren: how was your flight back? | 15:23 |
| alekibango | did you go through scanners? | 15:24 |
| soren | zul: Awful as always. I can never sleep properly on my way home. | 15:24 |
| soren | Except for the final leg (Copenhagen - Aalborg). I can never stay awake there. | 15:24 |
| zul | soren: crappy..i almost missed my flight in montreal | 15:24 |
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| soren | I'm not sure why. Maybe I'm subconsciously afraid I'll miss my next flight if I sleep too deeply. | 15:25 |
| soren | zul: :( Got delayed somewhere? | 15:25 |
| zul | soren: kind of the plane from toronto to houston was delayed so we were stuck waiting around for 20 minutes i think | 15:25 |
| soren | Hos is that only "kind of" getting delayed? | 15:26 |
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| zul | we were late 20 minutes before starting and about 40 minutes delayed before landing in montreal | 15:27 |
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| soren | Right. | 15:28 |
| soren | It's the "kind of" part I don't get. | 15:28 |
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| soren | That seems like text book "getting delayed" to me. | 15:28 |
| zul | right... | 15:28 |
| zul | it was :) | 15:28 |
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| soren | Ok. | 15:30 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 15:31 |
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| Daviey | zul: shoot for gold! | 15:37 |
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| sandywalsh | hi y'all ... trying to get nova running on clean ubuntu 10.10 64bit install, but running into an issue with rabbitmq | 16:49 |
| JordanRinke | whats wrong? | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | it hangs on "starting rabbitmq" after apt-get install | 16:50 |
| tr3buchet | you've b een to texas recently havent' you sandy! | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | :) | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | my ps -aux list looks like http://pastebin.com/5ffgvqkg | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | the rabbit archives suggest there's already a copy running, but I've killed off all the processes and tried again ... same problem | 16:50 |
| sandywalsh | it works fine on 10.10 32 bit | 16:51 |
| JordanRinke | ive done it on a 10.10 64bit build | 16:51 |
| gundlach | sandywalsh: is that 10.10-64 on metal or virtualized? | 16:51 |
| sandywalsh | virtual on vmware | 16:51 |
| sandywalsh | 10.10 server (I should be clear) | 16:52 |
| sandywalsh | I've posted this in the #rabbitmq room, no response yet. | 16:52 |
| JordanRinke | for the sake of time/reset etc do you have anything against just doing a dpkg -P rabbitmq-server, rebooting and installing it again? | 16:53 |
| sandywalsh | nope ... I'll give it a shot ... sec | 16:54 |
| sandywalsh | hmm, that worked ... odd. Thanks JordanRinke! | 16:56 |
| JordanRinke | no problem, I did a 40 node install and once or twice just had some random package issues | 16:57 |
| JordanRinke | found the easiest way was to reset it, if the problem still existed, dive in to it | 16:57 |
| sandywalsh | :) makes sense | 16:58 |
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| piken | how hard is it to modify nova-compute to spawn custom vm instances that do not use the network manager, but spawn with given ip addresses? | 17:01 |
| creiht | mtaylor: ping | 17:02 |
| piken | we are looking at switching to sr-iov for infiniband to do pure device virtualzation for pure ib in the vm's. | 17:02 |
| creiht | mtaylor: you probably know what I'm going to ask about... :) | 17:02 |
| JordanRinke | piken | 17:02 |
| JordanRinke | if you use the flatnetwork manage | 17:02 |
| JordanRinke | it injects the IP from the DB and lets them go | 17:02 |
| JordanRinke | I used that last week, gave all my VMs a public IP on a flat VLAN'd switch | 17:03 |
| piken | I understand that, but in this setup, we can't have bridges as you can't bridge a 20byte mac network. | 17:03 |
| JordanRinke | ah I gotcha | 17:03 |
| piken | we are doing some weird things to get it now, but sr-iov with virtualized ib will double network performance. | 17:03 |
| mtaylor | creiht: yes! will do as soon as I reboot after changing laptop batteries... | 17:05 |
| creiht | yay! | 17:05 |
| creiht | mtaylor: and thanks :) | 17:05 |
| JordanRinke | piken: my bet is the best person to answer that question would be vishy | 17:06 |
| piken | I will have to chat with him. Because if I do the work for it. I will make sure we can submit it back to have openstack as the first sr-iov supported cloud stack. | 17:07 |
| annegentle | I'm working on a man page for nova, but I'm not sure where it would be stored - tools? how would it get to the right location when someone installs? | 17:09 |
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| eday | annegentle: probably should be under docs/man, no? | 17:16 |
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| eday | annegentle: err, doc/man | 17:17 |
| annegentle | eday: that would also be logical :) | 17:22 |
| sandywalsh | hmm, this rabbitmq issue seems to be related to changing the hostname | 17:22 |
| annegentle | eday: one thing I don't understand is, how does the file gets to the /usr/ directory? | 17:23 |
| JordanRinke | the package would do it | 17:23 |
| annegentle | JordanRinke: ok, do I need to notify mtaylor once it's done? | 17:24 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: aroo? | 17:24 |
| JordanRinke | if he is the one that is in charge of putting the PPA packages together (I don't know who does that) | 17:25 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: I'm making a man file for nova, not sure 1) where to put it and 2) how it gets to the /usr/blahblah directory? | 17:25 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: there is a magical dictionary in doc/conf.py that lists which sphinx docs get turned in to man pages | 17:26 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: hurrah for magical dictionaries! | 17:26 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: glad I asked, now I will make an rst file | 17:26 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: that's right! | 17:26 |
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| annegentle | thanks all | 17:26 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: oh - what I meant was doc/source/conf.py | 17:27 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: see man_pages = in the swift docs | 17:27 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: ok | 17:27 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: oh good an example | 17:28 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: hrm. I may be lying to you... | 17:29 |
| JordanRinke | lol | 17:29 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: yeah I don't see one in swift yet | 17:29 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: in fact, it does appear that there are none in nova or swift :) | 17:29 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: exactly the opportunity I need on a Monday :) | 17:30 |
| alekibango | man pages are needed | 17:30 |
| alekibango | even simple ones | 17:30 |
| alekibango | could make it much better | 17:30 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: so - you want to add an entry to conf.py that looks like this: | 17:30 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: http://paste.openstack.org/show/121/ | 17:31 |
| mtaylor | annegentle: with one entry per manpage... the fields are (location_of_rst_file, man_page_name, man_page_title, author, section) | 17:32 |
| annegentle | mtaylor: ok, got it. I'll start with nova-manage (there are other nova commands but seems like a good starting point) | 17:32 |
| JordanRinke | it would be nice to have a man page for each service that explains what flags they service takes in its .conf file | 17:34 |
| JordanRinke | and if it depends on any other services to be running | 17:34 |
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| annegentle | JordanRinke: yeah good idea, a way to connect-the-dots back to the flag files | 17:36 |
| piken | do the components currently check to see if there is a config file for it in /etc/nova? | 17:37 |
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| piken | like /etc/nova/nova-compute.conf for nova-compute | 17:37 |
| JordanRinke | if you run them using the service controller, it sets the flag file | 17:37 |
| JordanRinke | if it doesnt exist it just uses defaults and pukes all over itself | 17:37 |
| piken | yeah, and that is only there in the ubuntu service files. | 17:37 |
| JordanRinke | so i think the answer is no, but that is by design | 17:39 |
| JordanRinke | since you can throw all the flags into the commandline if you want | 17:39 |
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| jaypipes | xtoddx: you're all pushed to openstack-common | 18:53 |
| xtoddx | jaypipes: oh man, i'm like people now! | 18:53 |
| xtoddx | there's gonna be no living with me | 18:53 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: :) | 18:53 |
| xtoddx | thanks | 18:53 |
| * jaypipes denies all future xtoddx merge proposals. | 18:54 | |
| xtoddx | haha, seems appropriate | 18:54 |
| jaypipes | :) | 18:54 |
| xtoddx | jaypipes: are we gonna get that set up with hudson, and docs on common.openstack.org, or is that a mtaylor question | 18:54 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: it's an mtaylor question, but I can work with him on that... | 18:55 |
| mtaylor | jaypipes: just let me know what you need | 18:55 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: will do. | 18:55 |
| jaypipes | mtaylor: five thousand dollars, small bills please. | 18:55 |
| Ryan_Lane | is there a guide somewhere for creating VMs for use with nova? | 18:55 |
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| JordanRinke | Ryan_Lane: not that I have seen but it is needed | 18:57 |
| JordanRinke | if you can find guides related to euca2ools those will work | 18:57 |
| xtoddx | Ryan_Lane: do you mean installing nova inside a VM, or launching a vm within nova? | 18:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | well, I made an image using vmbuilder, but I also need the ramdisk and kernel somehow | 18:58 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: yes, right now only AMIs are supported, so you can use the Amazon docs in a pinch. | 18:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. ok. amazon docs will do | 18:58 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: or do we support raw images now? not sure that patch made it in... | 18:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | are there any pre-existing images, other than the tiny one made for testing? | 18:58 |
| xtoddx | no raw images yet, afaik | 18:59 |
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| Ryan_Lane | :( | 18:59 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: not that I know of...we really should have a place for that... | 18:59 |
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| xtoddx | ryan_lane: there is a script in bin for grabbing the latest ubuntu images | 18:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | with raw images, would it be possible to upgrade kernels in the VM? :) | 18:59 |
| jaypipes | Ryan_Lane: feel free to create a page on the wiki for that and we can work as a community to add in "factory" images. | 18:59 |
| xtoddx | i think vishy's script also grabs some images | 18:59 |
| JordanRinke | Ryan_Lane: here is a guide I used over the weekend | 18:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah, the images it grabs are the tiny ones | 18:59 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: just the tiny one AFAIK. | 18:59 |
| JordanRinke | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEC/CreateYourImage | 18:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | and the tiny one doesn't work with injected IPs | 19:00 |
| JordanRinke | it is not exactly relevant, but all the commands at the end are useful | 19:00 |
| JordanRinke | i used this guide to make an ubuntu image from a running box | 19:00 |
| Ryan_Lane | in fact, the tiny one totally breaks when using flatnetworking (I submitted a patch for this) | 19:00 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: if you've got free time, if you could add that to the wiki somwhere, that would be helpful! :) | 19:00 |
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| Ryan_Lane | a public repository of user-created images would be nice | 19:01 |
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| JordanRinke | jaypipes: it is on my to do list | 19:01 |
| JordanRinke | I am going to push a couple images to the CDN and make a guide on building images | 19:02 |
| JordanRinke | and have a couple premade images available for download | 19:02 |
| xtoddx | bin/nova-import-canonical-imagestore downloads images from https://imagestore.canonical.com/api/dashboard | 19:02 |
| JordanRinke | since there is no real quickstart for people wanting to deply right now | 19:02 |
| xtoddx | should get 10.10 ec2 release and such | 19:02 |
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| JordanRinke | but then you have to strip out the ec2 scripts | 19:03 |
| JordanRinke | if you are making images | 19:03 |
| xtoddx | why's that? doesn't metadata work? | 19:03 |
| JordanRinke | you REALLY need to have vishy's nova-debug script | 19:03 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: cheers mate! | 19:03 |
| JordanRinke | xtoddx nope, no path to the server I was told there might be a work around but at least last week we were unable to get that to function | 19:04 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: FYI, I made a ton of progress on the continuous integration tool while on the plane back to Ohio :) | 19:04 |
| xtoddx | jaypipes: awesome, JordanRinke: not so awesome | 19:05 |
| xtoddx | jaypipes: do you need machines donated to the cause for running various configurations? | 19:05 |
| JordanRinke | xtoddx: we need to just provide images or have some type of ec2 stripping utility anyways | 19:05 |
| jaypipes | xtoddx: I will, but not yet. RS is getting the first ones... | 19:06 |
| JordanRinke | we are getting the first what? | 19:07 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: :) the first few machines for doing continuous integration testing in RS labs. | 19:07 |
| JordanRinke | oh yeah they just came in | 19:08 |
| JordanRinke | I think dubsquared is working on them right now | 19:08 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: were you at the session on it at the summit? | 19:09 |
| JordanRinke | lol dude, I was the one asking you about installing glance on the cluster i built | 19:09 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: I was going to work with johnpur on it, but if I can work directly with RS labs, that would be awesome :) | 19:09 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: ah! | 19:09 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: sorry, my bad! | 19:10 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: face recognition to IRC nick interface FAIL. | 19:10 |
| JordanRinke | lol its cool | 19:11 |
| JordanRinke | I will have to check with Piatt but I am almost certain all the gear dubsquared just got was for community openstack labs | 19:12 |
| JordanRinke | i don't know what he is planning to do in terms of swift/nova deployment etc | 19:12 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: should I still ask john purrier to get hardware allocated, or should I just talk to you guys? Basically, all I need at first is one machine to run the test clients (CI program) and two other machines for the cloud (one for API/Scheduler/MQ) and another for compute/volume | 19:12 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: I'll check with john purrier on what he was planning, then, make sure I don't step on any toes. | 19:13 |
| JordanRinke | I would say pop an email to him and Wayne Walls (dubsquared) to see what is up | 19:13 |
| jaypipes | jinx. :) | 19:13 |
| jaypipes | will do. cheers! | 19:13 |
| JordanRinke | we might be stepping on eachothers toes, or one group might just be moving faster | 19:13 |
| creiht | jaypipes: if only we had some resources that we could spin up and down as needed... | 19:13 |
| creiht | :) | 19:13 |
| jaypipes | creiht: :P | 19:14 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke, creiht: it's the human resources that are the issue as always, right? ;) | 19:14 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: hey, if you're *really* nice to me, I might just consider building a stress/CI tool for Swift. But only if you're really nice. :) | 19:15 |
| vishy | JordanRinke: any luck getting a centos image to run | 19:15 |
| vishy | ? | 19:15 |
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| JordanRinke | i got it built but I had trouble with my nova instance, I need to rework a few of the dev servers I haven't had time to do it today | 19:15 |
| JordanRinke | I have a zip with the image if you want to try running it somewhere | 19:15 |
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| vishy | JordanRinke, would be great, since i can' tget anything working so far | 19:16 |
| vishy | does it have a kernel and ramdisk as well? | 19:16 |
| JordanRinke | can you not even get an image to bundle? | 19:16 |
| vishy | no i can bundle | 19:16 |
| vishy | just can't find one that works | 19:16 |
| JordanRinke | how are they failing? | 19:17 |
| vishy | have an old 5.3 but it doesn't have virtio support | 19:17 |
| vishy | so it can't load the disk | 19:17 |
| jaypipes | JordanRinke: want me to cc you on that email? | 19:17 |
| JordanRinke | jaypipes: sure | 19:17 |
| jaypipes | k | 19:18 |
| vishy | my centos knowledge is very limited | 19:18 |
| JordanRinke | I am a RHEL dude so it is a little easier for me to move around on vs ubuntu | 19:18 |
| JordanRinke | although technically I am actually a windows engineer lol | 19:18 |
| JordanRinke | im trying to get to the server with the image but it looks like the IPs for the summit may have been deallocted | 19:19 |
| JordanRinke | can you ping 209.61.142.11 ? | 19:19 |
| vishy | nope | 19:19 |
| JordanRinke | (I know there were some internal routing issues - so it might still be there) | 19:19 |
| JordanRinke | damn | 19:19 |
| JordanRinke | yeah, so that server had the image | 19:19 |
| vishy | how did you build it? | 19:19 |
| JordanRinke | gear probably got pulled today :( | 19:19 |
| creiht | jaypipes: I would like to see you build something that could actually *stree* a swift cluster :) | 19:20 |
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| creiht | erm *stress* | 19:20 |
| JordanRinke | I made a VM on VMware Workstation, bunlded the volume, then bundled the kernel/ramdisk and then the image with the bundle | 19:20 |
| jaypipes | creiht: yep, that's what I'm building for Nova. I'd be glad to do it for swift too :) | 19:21 |
| JordanRinke | using euca2ools | 19:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | If I'm getting this error: ProcessExecutionError: Unexpected error while running command. | 19:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | sudo tune2fs -c 0 -i 0 /dev/loop0 | 19:21 |
| Ryan_Lane | does that mean my image is bad? | 19:21 |
| creiht | jaypipes: well I was trying to make a joke about the difficulty in actually stressing a swift cluster :) | 19:21 |
| JordanRinke | brb gas station run for energy drinks | 19:22 |
| jaypipes | creiht: hehe, I can break anything brother. trust me ;P | 19:22 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: so, challenge accepted! | 19:22 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: seems like it | 19:23 |
| creiht | lol | 19:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | do I need to build the images as xen, or will any image type work? | 19:23 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: needs to be a single ext partition | 19:24 |
| sandywalsh | is there a way to do an anonymous pull of openstack? Why do I need to create a launchpad account? | 19:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh? | 19:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | mine is currently root and swap | 19:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | I can't have swap? | 19:24 |
| vishy | sandywalsh: yes bzr branch will work it just warns you | 19:24 |
| vishy | Ryan_Lane: no swap for you | 19:24 |
| sandywalsh | vishy, thx | 19:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | :( | 19:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh | 19:25 |
| Ryan_Lane | swap is done via swap files? | 19:25 |
| vishy | no swap right now | 19:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. interesting | 19:26 |
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| jaypipes | sandywalsh: you don't need to have a LP account... just bzr branch lp:nova. | 19:31 |
| dubsquared1 | vishy: you get that centOS image for today? | 19:32 |
| dubsquared1 | or did i see that JordanRinke got one? | 19:32 |
| vishy | dubsquared1: not successful yet | 19:32 |
| dendrobates | sandywalsh: but as a ozone dev you will need one. | 19:33 |
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| jaypipes | xtoddx: pls merge your local openstack-common with trunk again. I made a few fixes for PEP8 and renamed pluggable_unittest to test_pluggable to enable nosetests... | 19:41 |
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| sandywalsh | dendrobates, yup ... it's all in place, but was just asking for someone else who was running into trouble. | 19:43 |
| sandywalsh | (have you tried it recently to be sure? O.o ) | 19:44 |
| JordanRinke | alright, did I miss anything awesome? | 19:47 |
| sandywalsh | dendrobates killed a man | 19:47 |
| sandywalsh | with a trident | 19:48 |
| dendrobates | o/ | 19:48 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: pending your approval: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-common/+spec/bexar-options-processing | 19:48 |
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| jaypipes | dendrobates: as part of the approval process, are you not setting the priority? | 20:13 |
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| czajkowski | dendrobates: are open stack going to have a presence at FOSDEM this year | 20:20 |
| dendrobates | czajkowski: yes we are | 20:21 |
| dendrobates | jaypipes: I will be doing that later. | 20:21 |
| czajkowski | excellent. | 20:21 |
| sandywalsh | the network service is always asking for sudo password to do the iptables ... should I add iptables to the sudoers file for that account to prevent this? Or is there another recommended approach? | 20:23 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: ah, k | 20:24 |
| soren | czajkowski: I'm hoping I'll go. | 20:25 |
| soren | czajkowski: Still haven't heard back from them, though. Not sure if I got accepted or not. | 20:25 |
| soren | Well, I'll probably go regardless. | 20:26 |
| czajkowski | I just posted to ubuntu-devel re a miniconf option this year, gone for the last 4 years now | 20:26 |
| czajkowski | but ubuntu has a very poor presence at it | 20:26 |
| czajkowski | soren: what did you submit? | 20:28 |
| soren | czajkowski: Hm... I should remember, shouldn't I? | 20:28 |
| soren | czajkowski: Something Openstacky. | 20:28 |
| czajkowski | really ya don't say :) | 20:29 |
| zul | yay i have trunk working from debian packaging | 20:29 |
| zul | by that i mean trunk working on natty | 20:30 |
| xtoddx | can somebody help me figure out why failing: https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/trunkdoc/+merge/40032 | 20:30 |
| xtoddx | ./run_tests.sh runs fine for me locally | 20:30 |
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| soren | xtoddx: The hudson box has a newer pep8. | 20:41 |
| soren | Oh, wait. | 20:41 |
| xtoddx | pep 8 is fixed, there are test errors now | 20:41 |
| soren | xtoddx: Well, yes, it has a newer pep8, and it actually runs it. | 20:42 |
| soren | xtoddx: Oh, sorry. | 20:42 |
| * soren starts paying attention. | 20:42 | |
| xtoddx | haha | 20:42 |
| xtoddx | i'm assuming hudson just runs ./run_tests.sh, which works for me | 20:42 |
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| soren | xtoddx: Let me check that for you. | 20:43 |
| soren | err.. | 20:46 |
| soren | Sheesh! That was convoluted. | 20:48 |
| soren | xtoddx: This is what hudson does: | 20:48 |
| soren | xtoddx: pep8 --repeat --show-pep8 --show-source bin/* nova && python run_tests.py && nosetests -w nova/tests/api | 20:48 |
| xtoddx | ah, nosetests! | 20:48 |
| soren | Yeah, because more testing frameworks is more good. | 20:49 |
| soren | :) | 20:49 |
| sandywalsh | Hmm, trunk build. I run-instances and the instance seems to be stuck in "scheduling" ... no blatant errors in any of the service windows. virsh list is empty. | 20:50 |
| sandywalsh | where's a n00b to go? | 20:51 |
| soren | Are you running nova-schedule anywhere? | 20:51 |
| soren | If not, you should try it. It's all the rage. | 20:51 |
| sandywalsh | nope, api, objectstore, compute and network | 20:51 |
| soren | Can't schedule stuff without a scheduler. :) | 20:52 |
| soren | We really should add a timeout for that sort of thing. | 20:52 |
| sandywalsh | ah, I was just following a tutorial and didn't see any scheduler mentioned | 20:53 |
| dendrobates | new feature request: schedulerless scheduling | 20:53 |
| soren | sandywalsh: It wasn't always there. It used to live inside the api server. | 20:53 |
| soren | dendrobates: Not as crackpot of an idea as you may think :) | 20:53 |
| sandywalsh | ah, ok. any notes on that, I'll update the wiki | 20:53 |
| dendrobates | I don't think it is a crackpot idea | 20:54 |
| soren | With certain restrictions, the message queue would make a very, very decent scheduler on its own. | 20:54 |
| sandywalsh | ./bin/nova-schedule --flagfile=... ??? | 20:54 |
| dendrobates | i agree, then let the nodes decide what to accept | 20:54 |
| dendrobates | soren, any chance of you updating your blog post. | 20:55 |
| soren | dendrobates: Even better: Have separate topics for each VM size. If you can't handle a certain size, unsubscribe from it. | 20:55 |
| soren | dendrobates: that way, we don't even have to broadcast. | 20:55 |
| JordanRinke | sandywalsh: /bin/nova/nova-scheduler --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova-scheduler.conf (or wherever that file lives) | 20:56 |
| dendrobates | there are other things than size | 20:56 |
| soren | dendrobates: That's a muth. | 20:56 |
| soren | myth. | 20:56 |
| soren | Oh, VM's? | 20:56 |
| sandywalsh | JordanRinke, my nova-manage.conf is pretty basic ... are there special entries for scheduler? | 20:56 |
| JordanRinke | not that I know of | 20:56 |
| sandywalsh | I stated the scheduler and it doesn't seem to be picking up any jobs | 20:56 |
| soren | dendrobates: Right, those were the "certain restrictions" I was talking about. | 20:57 |
| soren | dendrobates: Well, some of them. | 20:57 |
| sandywalsh | does the scheduler have to be running when the create request is first made? | 20:57 |
| soren | sandywalsh: I don't think so, no. | 20:57 |
| soren | sandywalsh: The request is probably sitting in the message queue, waiting to get delivered. | 20:57 |
| JordanRinke | oh | 20:57 |
| JordanRinke | sandywalsh: you need to have the basic stuff in it | 20:57 |
| JordanRinke | sandywalsh: such as the sql db info etc | 20:58 |
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| sandywalsh | swalsh@novadev:~/openstack/nova$ less /etc/nova/nova-manage.conf | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --verbose | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --nodaemon | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --FAKE_subdomain=ec2 | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --cc_host=192.168.2.109 | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --routing_source_ip=192.168.2.109 | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --auth_driver=nova.auth.dbdriver.DbDriver | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | --libvirt_type=qemu | 20:58 |
| sandywalsh | something more? | 20:58 |
| soren | All that is just for nova-manage (which doesn't need most of it). | 20:59 |
| soren | Unless, of course, you specifically point nova-scheduler at the same flagfile. | 20:59 |
| soren | nova-schedule, I mean. | 20:59 |
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| sandywalsh | that's what I just did (for S&G's) | 20:59 |
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| soren | "S&G's"? | 20:59 |
| sandywalsh | shits and giggles | 20:59 |
| soren | Oh, those. | 20:59 |
| soren | It makes sense. | 21:00 |
| soren | Things used to refuse to start if you passed unknown flags to them, so we had to have separate flagfiles for each worker. | 21:00 |
| soren | Now they don't, so we should be able to use the same flagfile for everything. | 21:00 |
| sandywalsh | so it seems to have picked up .../nova/nova.sqlite as the db and sqlalchemy as the backend, which seems fine. | 21:01 |
| soren | the flip side is that if you misspell sql_connection as "sql_conection" or whatnot, I can take a *looong* time to figure out why the bloody thing won't talk to your database. | 21:01 |
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| soren | Before, you'd get an error about an unknown flag. | 21:01 |
| sandywalsh | is there a wiki page on the scheduler config? | 21:01 |
| soren | There's really almost nothing to it. | 21:02 |
| soren | sql_connection and rabbit_host is all it needs to work. | 21:02 |
| sandywalsh | do you have a sample incantation? | 21:02 |
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| sandywalsh | it's all on one machine, so it got rabbit correctly | 21:02 |
| soren | "nova-schedule --sql_connection=sqlite:////var/lib/nova/nova.sqlite" is what I use. It defaults to a local rabbit. | 21:03 |
| sandywalsh | does scheduler pick jobs from the db or from the queue? | 21:03 |
| soren | Oh, it is actually nova-scheduler, not nova-schedule. Imagine that. | 21:03 |
| soren | sandywalsh: queue. | 21:03 |
| soren | Well.. | 21:03 |
| soren | sandywalsh: The api server collects the info from the request, puts it in the database, and sends a message that this particular VM needs scheduling. | 21:04 |
| soren | sandywalsh: So the bulk of the info is in the db, but the "scheduling job" I guess is a message queue thing. | 21:05 |
| sandywalsh | ok, I'll check that api and scheduler are using the same db. thanks soren! | 21:05 |
| soren | Now that you've actually had a scheduler running, the message may have been received (and subsequentely dropped on the floor), so you may need to do another RunInstances. | 21:06 |
| soren | sandywalsh: np | 21:06 |
| sandywalsh | yeah, that's what I'm going to try ... terminate-instance then create again | 21:06 |
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| sandywalsh | btw> terminate-instance doesn't complain when you give a bad instance id | 21:07 |
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| sandywalsh | euca-run-instances ami-tiny --kernel aki-lucid --ramdisk ari-lucid -k nova_key | 21:28 |
| sandywalsh | gives me | 21:28 |
| sandywalsh | libvirtError: unknown OS type hvm | 21:28 |
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| piken | you need to enable VT in bios and make sure the kvm module is loaded | 21:29 |
| piken | what distro are you using? | 21:29 |
| sandywalsh | 10.10-64 | 21:29 |
| piken | yeah, do `lsmod | grep kvm" | 21:29 |
| piken | if it returns that kvm is loaded you need to enable VT in bios | 21:30 |
| piken | if not, try `modprobe kvm` first. | 21:30 |
| sandywalsh | hmm, ok ... doesn't seem to be loaded. Sorry, thought I covered off on that. Thanks piken! | 21:30 |
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| JordanRinke | so, a question on images... how do you specify the size of an image... even using euca-bundle and setting the size to various options... all my images end up deplying with a 10G main partition, and a 20G unmounted partition | 22:37 |
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| vishy | the second partition is based on size | 23:01 |
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| vishy | er instance type | 23:01 |
| vishy | the first partition is resized to 10G if it is smaller than 10G | 23:02 |
| JordanRinke | is there any way to change / stop that? | 23:04 |
| JordanRinke | ie: I want to just make a bunch of images that are a single 4G partition | 23:05 |
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| vishy | if you launch as m1.tiny it won't resize and won't make a second partition | 23:11 |
| vishy | JordanRinke: did you see my note about bundle-vol? | 23:11 |
| JordanRinke | not sure that I did | 23:14 |
| JordanRinke | ah i see it now | 23:14 |
| JordanRinke | hang on | 23:14 |
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| tr3buchet | getting a nice error for nova-volume | 23:37 |
| tr3buchet | ubuntu-10.10-64 | 23:37 |
| tr3buchet | nova.exception.Error: volume group nova-volumes doesn't exist | 23:37 |
| JordanRinke | you need to make that VG | 23:38 |
| dubsquared1 | there is a mssing volgrp | 23:38 |
| * dubsquared1 stare | 23:39 | |
| vishy | tre3buchet: there is a question | 23:39 |
| vishy | with answers | 23:39 |
| vishy | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/134020 | 23:39 |
| tr3buchet | the best kind :D | 23:39 |
| JordanRinke | so what does nova-volume actually do? | 23:42 |
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| tr3buchet | stores volumes? | 23:46 |
| tr3buchet | ;) | 23:46 |
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| tr3buchet | my understanding is you can mount disk in volumes in the VMs on compute nodes | 23:47 |
| dubsquared1 | is that the married guy, greenisus? | 23:47 |
| greenisus | yep, that's me! | 23:48 |
| greenisus | honeymoon starts tomorrow | 23:48 |
| greenisus | trying to wrap up everything i can before we leave for maui | 23:48 |
| dubsquared1 | noice! congrats! | 23:48 |
| greenisus | thanks :) it was awesome | 23:48 |
| greenisus | i'm 11 away from inbox zero | 23:48 |
| greenisus | so dendrobates == rick clark, right? | 23:49 |
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| JordanRinke | everyone start spamming greenisus! if he can't clear his inbox he cant leave! bwahahah | 23:49 |
| greenisus | and i hope the rest of the summit was as awesome as what i saw | 23:49 |
| greenisus | JordanRinke: no!!! | 23:50 |
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| dragondm | I'm trying to get nova running as well, this is currently on a slice (same as what tr3buchet is doing) I think the problem with nova-volume is deeper than just the missing volume. It looks like the iscsi_trgt kernel mod is not existant | 23:54 |
| JordanRinke | why would you even us a VG on a slice? | 23:55 |
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| dragondm | he's just trying to get nova running | 23:55 |
| tr3buchet | testing | 23:56 |
| dragondm | to setup a dev env | 23:56 |
| tr3buchet | playing | 23:56 |
| dubsquared1 | iscsi_trgt kernel mod | 23:56 |
| dubsquared1 | iirc... | 23:56 |
| dubsquared1 | there are 4 missing mods, so iscsi wont start, etc | 23:56 |
| dragondm | to be honest, I don't thing nova-volume is needed for basic function | 23:57 |
| dragondm | dubsquared1: thought so. | 23:57 |
| dubsquared1 | you can however, download the vanilla kernel source, and compile the modules separately | 23:57 |
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| dubsquared1 | i believe that dragondm is right; if you just want nova up and running for basic playing around, nova-volume doesn't seem to be needed | 23:58 |
| dubsquared1 | but FYI, if you do need iscsi support: | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | here is the list of what you'll need to get going: | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - make modules | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - make modules_install | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - cd /lib/modules/2.6.34.1-rscloud/kernel/drivers/scsi/ | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod the following (Exact order is important) | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod scsi_mod.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod sd_mod.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod scsi_wait_scan.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod scsi_transport_iscsi.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod libiscsi.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod libiscsi_tcp.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | - insmod iscsi_tcp.ko | 23:59 |
| dubsquared1 | well, minus those first three lines... | 23:59 |
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