dragondm | Has anyone got a "nova-in-a-box" dev env up and running (launching UML instances or some such? ) so far? | 00:00 |
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soren | dubsquared1: If you use modprobe rather than insmod, you don't need to worry about the ordering. | 00:04 |
soren | ...and with that, I bid you all a good night. | 00:05 |
dubsquared1 | gtk, thanks | 00:05 |
dragondm | yah, iscsi_tcp loads fine on the slices, (was already loaded when I looked w/ lsmod) so that should be good. it's just the target mod that's missing and I suspect that only nova-volume cares abt that. | 00:07 |
dubsquared1 | i believe that one of the latest seed releases added a lot of the iscsi mods, but there are still some missing | 00:09 |
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dragondm | I'm going to guess the answer to my previous question about a nova-in-a-box dev system is 'no' | 00:26 |
vishy | dragondm: yup | 00:29 |
vishy | see the novascript | 00:29 |
vishy | most of the devs run nova in a vm | 00:29 |
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eday | soren, dendrobates: making things work without a scheduler process is on the todo as part of the 'distributed data store' spec...indirectly. the idea is to have the scheduler classes, with the default not needing a worker (API->compute api->scheduler->compute worker) | 01:28 |
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eday | annegentle: you should push to lp:~annegentle/nova/branch_name instead of +junk, +junk doesn't let you used the shared nova repo when pushing | 01:35 |
eday | annegentle: plus I don't think merge props will work :) | 01:35 |
zul | umm....when are specs due again? | 01:36 |
eday | zul: Subject: Bexar specs submission deadline, Nov 18 | 01:38 |
zul | eday: thanks | 01:39 |
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jaypipes | holy Philly Eagles batman. | 02:35 |
dubsquared | Vick is putting up mad fantasy points... | 02:53 |
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dubsquared | :o | 04:20 |
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ttx | Goooood morning | 07:27 |
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soren | ttx: 'morning. | 09:05 |
ttx | soren: yo | 09:06 |
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CnC | can anyone assist with the current API documentation for openstack compute? | 09:51 |
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sandywalsh | morning! | 11:37 |
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JordanRinke | word up | 12:52 |
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sandywalsh | hmm, I've created a nova-volumes volume group, but volume manager still complains that it doesn't exist | 13:04 |
sandywalsh | (I'm not terribly concerned, because I know I don't need VG, but still) | 13:04 |
sandywalsh | vgdisplay shows the volume group | 13:05 |
gundlach | sandywalsh: what command did you use to create the volume group? does it need to be added to "nova.sh install"? | 13:05 |
sandywalsh | gundlach, I followed the steps in the docs (dd, losetup, vgcreate) | 13:06 |
gundlach | ah, ok, i'm trying to use nova.sh and poke holes in it. | 13:06 |
sandywalsh | vgcreate nova-volumes /dev/loop0 (in my case) | 13:06 |
gundlach | tx | 13:06 |
JordanRinke | sandywalsh: nova checks for /dev/nova-volumes | 13:07 |
JordanRinke | see if that exists, i have heard you may need to put data in it / make a volume before the OS willl create that folder | 13:07 |
sandywalsh | JordanRinke, thx <looking> | 13:07 |
sandywalsh | so the command should have been vgcreate /dev/nova-volumes ... ? | 13:08 |
JordanRinke | no, the vgcreate is going to end up making a /dev/nova-volumes | 13:08 |
JordanRinke | no matter where you pointed it to, it will put the name under /dev | 13:09 |
sandywalsh | hmm, didn't | 13:09 |
JordanRinke | you just need to create a volume in nova-volumes for the OS to populate the folder | 13:09 |
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JordanRinke | lvcreate -L 1G --name test nova-volumes | 13:10 |
JordanRinke | try that and see if the folder exists | 13:10 |
sandywalsh | shouldn't the vgcreate have connected that to the dd file created previously? | 13:11 |
sandywalsh | and then associated that via /dev/loop0? | 13:11 |
JordanRinke | even mounted as a loop back device, AFAIK the OS will create a /dev/nova-volumes when you make the VG | 13:12 |
JordanRinke | or more specifically when you create a volume in the VG | 13:12 |
JordanRinke | try that command I gave you and see if ti makes a /dev/nova-volumes | 13:13 |
sandywalsh | yup, that did it. it created the directory and the test dev ... the size had to be within the size of the dd file created earlier | 13:13 |
sandywalsh | cool ... thanks JR! | 13:13 |
sandywalsh | I'll send a note to annegentle on the docs | 13:14 |
JordanRinke | props to vish on that, discovered it in the installfest at the summit last week | 13:15 |
sandywalsh | yup, it's happy now ... thanks again! | 13:20 |
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[CnC] | anyone have link to the docs for hte openstack compute API? | 13:28 |
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sandywalsh | [CnC], this? http://nova.openstack.org/ | 13:31 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #676007 in nova "Getting a 404 Not Found on Developer Guide at http://nova.openstack.org/devref/index.html" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676007 | 13:31 |
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sandywalsh | [CnC], the getting started guide is here: http://nova.openstack.org/getting.started.html | 13:37 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #676026 in nova "Nova services do not log to new log file after log rotation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676026 | 13:56 |
piken | morning | 13:59 |
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JordanRinke | morning | 14:00 |
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sandywalsh | so, yesterday I could run commands like euca-describe-images without issue. Today, in a new bash shell, it fails. EC2_URL Is undefined, but it defaults to the correct endpoint (http://localhost:8773/services/Eucalyptus ). Looking at the api logs, it's mapping my EC2_ACCESS_KEY correctly to my nova user, but complaining 'no project with id <myusername>'. 'nova-manage projects list' shows my project exists | 14:19 |
sandywalsh | could the username -> project association get lost somehow? | 14:19 |
soren | sandywalsh: Did you source novarc? | 14:19 |
soren | Sounds like you didn't. | 14:19 |
sandywalsh | bingo ... thanks | 14:20 |
soren | np | 14:20 |
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soren | (the euca-* tools default to http://localhost:8773/services/Eucalyptus (and not Amazon EC2), so it's not always obvious that you've forgotten to source it) | 14:20 |
piken | ok, so I just tested using a rabbit cluster instead of a single rabbit server. There were 6 nodes in the cluster with then behind a transparent nginx proxying web server set to load balance. | 14:22 |
piken | Worked perfectly even with killing rabbit nodes. | 14:23 |
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piken | Next is to try a multi-master mysql replication setup. I might have to provide a patch to clean up any autogen fields if there are any. | 14:25 |
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ttx | annegentle: around ? | 14:31 |
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ttx | annegentle, dendrobates: could one of you allow me to change http://wiki.openstack.org/Release ? The page is protected. | 14:32 |
dendrobates | ttx: I'll fix it what is your wiki id? | 14:33 |
ttx | ThierryCarrez | 14:33 |
dendrobates | done | 14:34 |
ttx | dendrobates: see http://wiki.openstack.org/BexarReleaseSchedule -- I marked it confirmed. | 14:34 |
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dendrobates | ttx: fyi, very few specs have been submitted for approval | 14:37 |
dendrobates | I am a bit frustrated | 14:38 |
ttx | dendrobates: yes, I've seen that. | 14:38 |
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ttx | they should at least be at "drafting" or "Review" at that point | 14:38 |
dendrobates | ttx: will you be sending out a release meeting reminder? I did it about half the time | 14:39 |
ttx | dendrobates: through the ML ? | 14:39 |
dendrobates | I did both | 14:39 |
dendrobates | at different times | 14:40 |
ttx | I'll do ML / tweet / IRC reminders | 14:40 |
dendrobates | ttx soren: let me know when you here from fosdem | 14:40 |
ttx | dendrobates: ack -- I heard back from UKUUG "Spring" conference, plenary talk accepted there. | 14:41 |
sandywalsh | I'm seeing the 'database is locked' error (as seen here https://lists.launchpad.net/nova/msg00310.html ) ... but my nova.sqlite database has user permissions and I'm running nova as that user. | 14:41 |
dendrobates | sandywalsh: are you standing on one leg and singing 'Oh Canada'? It's important to follow the whole process. | 14:43 |
sandywalsh | dendrobates, no, but I sacrificed a goat on the mountaintop at full moonrise ... isn't that sufficient? | 14:43 |
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dendrobates | seriously, are there any other nova processes running? I've seen it then too | 14:44 |
sandywalsh | I'll double check ... sec | 14:44 |
dendrobates | it was a long time ago though, I haven't seen it in months | 14:45 |
jaypipes | xtoddx: around? | 14:46 |
sandywalsh | nope, dnsmasq, rabbit (epmd), libvirtd ... nothing nova specific. I am running api, compute, volume, scheduler, network and objectstore on one vm | 14:46 |
sandywalsh | sadly, the dev docs aren't working on LP today, I would start there rather than spamming the channel. | 14:48 |
sandywalsh | (he says, while building the docs locally) | 14:50 |
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dendrobates | dev docs on lp? are you referring to the sphinx docs? | 15:02 |
sandywalsh | yeah, I see someone filed a bug on it this morning | 15:03 |
creiht | http://nova.openstack.org/ | 15:05 |
creiht | seems to work for me | 15:05 |
creiht | annegentle: btw, did you see my note yesterday about the swift docs theme merge proposal? | 15:06 |
JordanRinke | creiht: click on the Developer Guide | 15:07 |
creiht | oh heh | 15:07 |
creiht | yeah that is broken :) | 15:07 |
sandywalsh | are there any notes on required packages to build the docs? even sphinx is failing for me (rough morning, I tell ya) | 15:10 |
sandywalsh | assumed it should just be python-sphinx | 15:10 |
creiht | sandywalsh: can you paste the error you are getting on paste.openstack.org? | 15:11 |
creiht | sandywalsh: Some of the docs are built from the source, which in turn can try to import other packages which can cause some issues | 15:11 |
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sandywalsh | creiht, http://paste.openstack.org/show/122/ | 15:11 |
creiht | I mostly work with swift, so I'm not entirely sure what is required for nova docs | 15:12 |
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creiht | sandywalsh: I would first try updating sphinx to at least 1.0 | 15:12 |
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sandywalsh | ok, I just did an apt-get, so that's the default ... will try newer | 15:12 |
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ttx | dendrobates: Please review http://wiki.openstack.org/SpecsSubmissionDeadline -- in particular the "Exception procedure" section | 15:14 |
sandywalsh | creiht, that was it ... thanks. You should be dipped in bronze and placed in the front of the rackspace offices. | 15:14 |
creiht | lol | 15:14 |
creiht | If I had a dollar for each time I heard that ;) | 15:14 |
sandywalsh | ha | 15:14 |
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dendrobates | ttx: looks good, but doesn't sound nearly as painful as I would like. | 15:16 |
ttx | dendrobates: feel free to add more details into what you would like to see as a justification on the SDE... | 15:17 |
ttx | dendrobates: it's a bit difficult, since you always have the power to accept or refuse them, be it before SD or after SD. | 15:18 |
dendrobates | true, but if no one submits their spec I am in a difficult position. | 15:19 |
dendrobates | and very angry. God help the rackers that cannot follow the process. | 15:20 |
creiht | Yay... more process | 15:20 |
creiht | :) | 15:21 |
creiht | the problem is that rackers already have more process than needed as is | 15:21 |
johnpur | dendrobates: we don't want to see the angry Hulk! Are you looking for specific docs from RAX or was that a general statement? | 15:22 |
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dendrobates | johnpur: the deadline for submitting specs for approval is Thursday. | 15:23 |
dendrobates | johnpur: so far 3/50 | 15:23 |
dendrobates | the process was documented in an email from Thierry and on the wiki | 15:23 |
eday | dendrobates: just FYI, I've been working on one that consumes about 3 blueprints... should have it ready today. trying to find the best way to break it down into smaller steps :) | 15:24 |
creiht | So if I don't submit a spec, then I don't have to do any work... score! :) | 15:24 |
eday | creiht: no, then you get assigned work you really don't want to do :) | 15:25 |
dendrobates | eday: I was not too worried about you. :) | 15:25 |
ttx | dendrobates: you should clean up https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/bexar so that it's accurate | 15:25 |
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dubsquared | morning, #openstack! | 15:26 |
ttx | dendrobates: i'm not sure if all those "deferred" specs are still current | 15:26 |
dendrobates | ttx: it was my opinion that targeting came after submission, do you disagree? | 15:26 |
dendrobates | I can see the benefit | 15:27 |
ttx | hmm | 15:27 |
ttx | dendrobates: ideally people would propose blueprints for a given series, and you would accept them in the series | 15:27 |
dendrobates | ah, I agree | 15:28 |
ttx | dendrobates: not too sure how LP shows the difference between "proposed for bexar" and "accepted for bexar" though | 15:28 |
ttx | that allows them to have a spec ready, but target it to cactus | 15:28 |
ttx | dendrobates: as a "driver", can you switch from "accepted for bexar" to "proposed for bexar" or is it linked to the spec "accepted" status ? | 15:30 |
ttx | All those on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/bexar seem to be "accepted for bexar" | 15:31 |
dendrobates | ttx: I can decline it | 15:31 |
dendrobates | and I think it can be reproposed | 15:31 |
johnpur | dendrobates: looking to get more effort assigned | 15:32 |
johnpur | i will cc you | 15:32 |
xtoddx | jaypipes: were you looking for me? | 15:32 |
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jaypipes | xtoddx: not yet, sorry. :) | 15:38 |
patri0t | hey all, I tried to change the the singleNode installation to mutliServer, but Now I have a mess with authorization problem :D | 15:39 |
xtoddx | patri0t: are they both pointing to the same database? | 15:39 |
patri0t | http://paste.openstack.org/show/123/ | 15:39 |
patri0t | yeap | 15:40 |
patri0t | when I try to run new instance even in the CLC, I got the not found error | 15:40 |
xtoddx | does 'nova-manage user list' show the user/ | 15:41 |
patri0t | yeap | 15:41 |
dubsquared | did you authorize the correct user to the correct project? | 15:41 |
patri0t | yeap | 15:41 |
patri0t | the error is Not Found "No user for access key 35e05541-26b3-4db6-8895-18906c93249a'" | 15:42 |
dubsquared | and thats the key that is in mysql? | 15:42 |
patri0t | yeap | 15:43 |
dubsquared | hrm | 15:43 |
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xtoddx | mtaylor: have you seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/676007 | 15:44 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 676007 in nova "Getting a 404 Not Found on Developer Guide at http://nova.openstack.org/devref/index.html" [Undecided,New] | 15:44 |
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sandywalsh | so, any other thoughts on this database lock issue? :) | 15:54 |
sandywalsh | or suggestions for getting started on debugging it? | 15:55 |
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vishy | piken: awesome news on the rabbit cluster, setup instructions would be awesome | 16:09 |
JordanRinke | vishy: so, once that ramdisk "issue" got worked out, that centos image load? | 16:10 |
vishy | sandywalsh: i get occasional database lock errors when running multiple services on update | 16:10 |
vishy | JordanRinke: yeah i had to hack up the eth device a bit and there are a couple weird log messages but it seems to work | 16:11 |
JordanRinke | did you have to modify the ramdisk at all with the --with calls, or did it work out of the box? | 16:11 |
vishy | if there is a place i can upload, i'll send it so other people can mess with it / improve it | 16:11 |
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JordanRinke | yeah, give me a moment | 16:12 |
vishy | JordanRinke: not sure, I had already done that, never tested with the out of the box one, but i suspect it might work | 16:12 |
vishy | sandywalsh: if that is what you are seeing it isn't really a big deal. One sqlite db from multiple threads is dangerous | 16:13 |
sandywalsh | vishy, thanks. Is there a way I can resolve this? Going to be hard to develop against a flaky base. | 16:13 |
vishy | patri0t: it seems like your api server may be connecting to a different db than nova-manage | 16:14 |
vishy | sandywalsh: does it cause any errors? | 16:14 |
vishy | sandywalsh: easy fix: use mysql instead :) | 16:14 |
sandywalsh | yeah, the create instance fails | 16:15 |
sandywalsh | ok ... I'll switch to mysql :) | 16:15 |
sandywalsh | heh ...thanks | 16:15 |
patri0t | vishy: nope, I checked it before | 16:16 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #676128 in nova "vm images are not removed from XenServer storage when euca-terminate-instance is executed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676128 | 16:16 |
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piken | Ok, anyone on that is exp'ed with issues with rabbit and nova. for some reason messages created by api never get to compute and scheduler | 16:47 |
piken | I am seeing DEBUG:amqplib:Open OK! known_hosts [] in the amqp debugs. Is that right? | 16:54 |
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piken | anyone? | 17:03 |
JordanRinke | I've got nothing. | 17:05 |
dubsquared | you're in trouble now.... | 17:05 |
dubsquared | :) | 17:05 |
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sandywalsh | piken, not sure how rabbit queues are routed in a cluster, sorry | 17:07 |
piken | This is not a cluster, this is a single node. | 17:07 |
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piken | cluster is working fine on a ubuntu system. This is a test system for centos5 | 17:07 |
sandywalsh | hmm, do you have more than one rabbit running? | 17:08 |
piken | I only see on | 17:09 |
piken | *one | 17:09 |
sandywalsh | and only one erlang epmd | 17:10 |
piken | correct | 17:12 |
sandywalsh | have you tried the AMQP analyzer (com.rabbitmq.tools.Tracer) ... trying to find link ... | 17:12 |
sandywalsh | http://www.rabbitmq.com/examples.html#tracer | 17:12 |
sandywalsh | I think that will show you what's flowing | 17:13 |
sandywalsh | (my apologies, my rabbit fu is minimal) | 17:14 |
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piken | :( no java on those machines | 17:15 |
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sandywalsh | so it's a single node, but the nova services are on different machines, correct? | 17:17 |
piken | no, same. Just that set of machines all have the same software. No java at all | 17:17 |
sandywalsh | weird | 17:18 |
eday | piken: run rabbitmqctl list_queues to see what in the queue, if anything | 17:18 |
piken | I take it the nunber to the right is a count | 17:19 |
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piken | it shows a lot of things let me do a paste. | 17:19 |
eday | piken: yup, just name count | 17:19 |
piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/126/ | 17:19 |
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sandywalsh | so, queues are empty | 17:20 |
eday | yup | 17:21 |
piken | it is like nothing gets to the queue | 17:21 |
sandywalsh | rabbitmqctl list_connections | 17:22 |
sandywalsh | see how many services are connected | 17:22 |
sandywalsh | I'm showing 3 | 17:23 |
piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/127/ | 17:23 |
piken | I started network, api, objectstore, volume, sched, and compute | 17:24 |
sandywalsh | sorry, I'm showing 4 connections. All services, like you: api, objectstore, compute, network, vol, sched | 17:25 |
sandywalsh | you have 1 additional | 17:25 |
piken | hmm, when ever I try to do a run-instance it gets another connection | 17:25 |
eday | piken: it will for the temporary return queues | 17:26 |
eday | piken: that's something we need to rework to be more efficient | 17:26 |
dabo | I'm showing 6 queues: https://paste.slicehost.com/show/2250/ | 17:26 |
eday | piken: all the queues named with a UUID are temporary to get results back | 17:26 |
piken | eday: only problem is I don't seem to be sending a message out :( | 17:27 |
sandywalsh | My queues are different again https://paste.slicehost.com/show/2251/ | 17:27 |
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eday | sandywalsh: slicehost paste needs pw :) | 17:28 |
dabo | euca-run-instances is still creating instances that are hung in 'scheduling', even though nova-scheduler is running | 17:28 |
sandywalsh | whoops, sorry, habit | 17:28 |
dabo | me too - sorry | 17:28 |
piken | dabo: that is what is happening to me. It sits there and does nothing. | 17:28 |
sandywalsh | http://paste.openstack.org/show/128/ | 17:28 |
dabo | http://paste.openstack.org/show/129/ | 17:29 |
sandywalsh | dabo, you don't have a service asking for a password? | 17:29 |
piken | hmm, I get a bunch of uuid queues even when the comments are not started. | 17:29 |
dabo | sandywalsh: no, but it looks like nova-network is hosed | 17:30 |
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dabo | here's what that session shows: http://paste.openstack.org/show/130/ | 17:30 |
piken | should each queue be doubled? | 17:31 |
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piken | I have volume and volume.domain | 17:31 |
sandywalsh | did you set your ip address in /etc/nova/nova-manage.conf? | 17:31 |
eday | piken: that's so workers can be addressed by service (any worker) or specific host workers | 17:32 |
sandywalsh | http://paste.openstack.org/show/131/ | 17:32 |
dabo | sandywalsh: doh! | 17:32 |
dabo | I copied that verbatim from the wiki - didn't see the substitution | 17:32 |
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sandywalsh | piken, what does your nova-manage.conf look like? | 17:33 |
piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/132/ | 17:33 |
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sandywalsh | hmm, seems fine | 17:35 |
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piken | so it created the response queue for the create, but never showed a request in the queue to start with | 17:36 |
piken | I did a list channels and see a 1 in one of the columns, no clue what it means. | 17:37 |
piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/133/ | 17:37 |
sandywalsh | http://paste.openstack.org/show/134/ | 17:40 |
sandywalsh | bindings show all services attached | 17:41 |
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sandywalsh | (except for api & object store) | 17:41 |
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sandywalsh | what's your hosts file look like? | 17:42 |
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piken | mine looks diff then yours. | 17:42 |
piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/135/ | 17:42 |
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piken | hosts http://paste.openstack.org/show/136/ | 17:43 |
sandywalsh | Exchanges? http://paste.openstack.org/show/137/ | 17:43 |
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sandywalsh | you have a public and a private address routing to same name | 17:44 |
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sandywalsh | could that be the problem? | 17:44 |
mtaylor | xtoddx: looking in to it | 17:44 |
sandywalsh | 10.241 and 192.168 -> ostacks02.br... | 17:44 |
piken | I don't think it would | 17:45 |
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sandywalsh | piken, I have to run ... sorry I couldn't help. Good luck. Please ping me with solution if you find it! | 17:46 |
piken | ok, wtf. Now it is working. lol | 17:46 |
sandywalsh | ?! | 17:47 |
mtaylor | xtoddx: yup. it's a globbing problem in hudson | 17:47 |
sandywalsh | what changed? | 17:47 |
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piken | nothing. But now libvirt is dying. lol | 17:48 |
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piken | hmmm error: internal error cannot parse /usr/libexec/qemu-kvm version number in '' | 17:50 |
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piken | http://paste.openstack.org/show/138/ current libvirt error | 17:53 |
piken | anyone have an idea? | 17:53 |
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vishy | piken: that is a new error to me | 18:01 |
piken | I fixed it | 18:02 |
piken | qspice was missing | 18:02 |
piken | now got a new one though. | 18:02 |
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piken | error: Error while building firewall: Some rules could not be created for interface vnet0. | 18:03 |
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gundlach | i'm getting a failure when trying to euca-run-instances: nova-compute fails to write to the /tmp/xxx/etc/network/interfaces file because (afaict) this is happening *after* 'rmdir /tmp/xxxx' occurs. | 18:06 |
gundlach | sound familiar to anybody? http://paste.openstack.org/show/139/ | 18:06 |
Ryan_Lane | gundlach: I have a patch for this | 18:06 |
Ryan_Lane | gundlach: it is actually that the /etc/network directory doesn't exist | 18:06 |
gundlach | Ryan_Lane: ah, sweet, in a branch yet? can i review to merge? | 18:07 |
Ryan_Lane | I think someone reviewed, just no merge | 18:07 |
Ryan_Lane | lemme find it | 18:07 |
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gundlach | Ryan_Lane: I don't quite understand the debug output, because it looks as if the original 'sudo tee /tmp/xxx/etc/network/interfaces' succeeded, and more commands were run after it -- and only later do a see a stack trace... | 18:07 |
Ryan_Lane | https://code.launchpad.net/~rlane/nova/lp666554 | 18:08 |
Ryan_Lane | gundlach: yeah, I thought the same too | 18:08 |
Ryan_Lane | gundlach: took me a while to trace it out, but finally came down to the directory not existing | 18:08 |
vishy | piken: have ebtables/iptables/gawk installed? | 18:09 |
vishy | Ryan_Lane: propose for merge? | 18:10 |
piken | vishy: yes | 18:10 |
Ryan_Lane | vishy: proposed | 18:11 |
vishy | piken: you were having this error before | 18:11 |
gundlach | Ryan_Lane: tyvm, i'll take a look and get it merged | 18:12 |
vishy | piken: i remember we were going through trying to nwfilterdumpxml | 18:12 |
vishy | to see if we could figure out which rule is failing | 18:12 |
Ryan_Lane | cool | 18:12 |
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Ryan_Lane | vishy: added another too: https://code.launchpad.net/~rlane/nova/ldapimprovements/+merge/40993 | 18:15 |
vishy | Ryan_Lane: you're going to need to merge trunk and fix pep errors on the first one | 18:17 |
gundlach | Ryan_Lane: thanks, that got me past that particular stacktrace, on to another :) i've reviewed as lgtm -- are you in nova-core or shall i Approve for you? | 18:17 |
vishy | or it won't merge | 18:17 |
vishy | i pasted the errors i'm getting into the merge proposal | 18:18 |
gundlach | vishy: he only changed one file, according to the LP diff -- how could those other pep8 errors be his problem? | 18:19 |
vishy | gundlach: just because he was on an older trunk | 18:20 |
Ryan_Lane | ah. I'll try to take care of those soon. back in a bit | 18:20 |
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gundlach | but won't LP just apply his one-file change when merging his branch into trunk? | 18:20 |
vishy | gundlach: he doesn't have to fix the other errors, but if he merges trunk he'll be able to see the one he added. It is this one nova/compute/disk.py:175:47: E261 at least two spaces before inline comment | 18:21 |
vishy | :) | 18:21 |
gundlach | i mean, yes he's on an old version of trunk, but doesn't fast-forwarding happen or something when he merges into a newer trunk? (yeah, i see E261 is his fault) | 18:21 |
vishy | gundlach: yes, only that one is required | 18:21 |
gundlach | vishy: ok, gotcha :) | 18:21 |
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gundlach | Ryan_Lane: as I'm blocking on this, I went ahead with the pep8 fix: https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/lp666554/+merge/40997 | 18:34 |
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gundlach | vishy: mind doing a quick review? | 18:36 |
vishy | way ahead of you | 18:36 |
vishy | nice comments :p | 18:36 |
gundlach | :) this is that weird thing we were talking about at cloudkick, where i no longer have the right to review the code since it's my branch of ryan's branch... | 18:36 |
gundlach | vishy: yeah, i plan to start commenting as best i can, and hopefully the original authors will dislike my hemi-gluteal comments enough to come and correct them behind me :P | 18:37 |
vishy | yeah, i think it is good... | 18:37 |
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gundlach | cheers | 18:37 |
vishy | lol hemi-gluteal, haven't heard that...genius | 18:37 |
gundlach | vishy: thx, it's my attempt to find a non-cursing synonym for a word that is unparalleled in its nuance | 18:38 |
creiht | mtaylor: so ummm.... :) | 18:39 |
vishy | has the meeting moved by an hour due to daylight savings changes? | 18:46 |
vishy | top | 18:46 |
gundlach | vishy: GMT doesn't do daylight savings, so if you're in a zone that does, then yes. | 18:46 |
vishy | k, thought so :) | 18:47 |
gundlach | vishy: in any case, it's at 9pm UTC, and you can doublecheck your local time at http://timeanddate.com/s/1wb2 . | 18:48 |
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gundlach | my merge failed because "W293 blank line contains whitespace" -- and then the explanation pasted in says that whitespace is OK as part of a blank line. seems to me like hudson should allow my blank-line-with-whitespace. | 18:51 |
gundlach | mtaylor: are you the guy to complain to about this? | 18:51 |
gundlach | https://code.launchpad.net/~gundlach/nova/lp666554/+merge/40997 | 18:51 |
vishy | i have vim cut all trailing whitespace | 18:55 |
vishy | i guess we can disable 293 | 18:56 |
eday | or we can just remove the wrhitespace :) | 18:57 |
* eday removed a bunch during the pep8 cleanup | 18:58 | |
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dendrobates | whitespace is pretty. Just like a snowy Christmas day. | 18:59 |
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elasticdog | are there directions anywhere for setting up openstack in more of a production environment versus the typical dev environment? | 19:15 |
vishy | elasticdog: not yet, various people are working on them | 19:16 |
anotherjesse | elasticdog: we've pushed some puppet recipes we use at nasa | 19:17 |
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anotherjesse | not sure if we doc'd them yet though | 19:17 |
elasticdog | vishy: awesome...are they up on github? | 19:18 |
vishy | yes, speaking of which, puppet experts, please hack up / improve the puppet recipes in contrib/puppet | 19:18 |
vishy | in trunk | 19:18 |
anotherjesse | bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/trunk/files/head:/contrib/puppet | 19:19 |
elasticdog | anotherjesse: thanks | 19:20 |
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mtaylor | gundlach: yes, I'm the person to complain to, but it's gonna be a bug in the pep8 program. we could certainly patch it... but that would have to be the solution if we wanted to allow that | 19:40 |
gundlach | mtaylor: no thanks, i assumed there was a pep8rc or build rc that would let us say "don't treat that warning as fatal". if not, i'll just change my vimrc and be done with it. | 19:40 |
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gundlach | vishy: do you use the recipe at http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Remove_unwanted_spaces or something more concise? | 19:42 |
eday | even if it were possible to disable, I'd vote against allowing unnecessary whitespace :) | 19:45 |
* mtaylor keeps his opinion out of things... is merely the enforcer | 19:45 | |
eday | the warning there referenced the python reference manual (which allows a lot of things obviously), not pep8 | 19:45 |
* anotherjesse thinks mtaylor is smart | 19:46 | |
eday | mtaylor: cmon, get off the fence! :) | 19:46 |
* mtaylor notices that he's sitting on a fence ... is confused as to what a fence is doing in a coffee shop... | 19:46 | |
comstud | it's to seperate those that just want a regular cup of coffee from those who want the frou frou drinks. | 19:51 |
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comstud | apparently you're undecided | 19:51 |
comstud | i just want a regular cup of coffee. | 19:52 |
comstud | cream n sugar, plz | 19:52 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #676220 in swift "Change st option parse" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676220 | 19:56 |
ttx | Meeting in one hour in #openstack-meeting | 20:01 |
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creiht | mtaylor: so about that hudson... | 20:17 |
creiht | :) | 20:17 |
mtaylor | creiht: yes! | 20:18 |
mtaylor | creiht: it's a great idea! | 20:18 |
mtaylor | creiht: I should really do it! | 20:18 |
creiht | mtaylor: :) | 20:19 |
mtaylor | creiht: lp:swift/1.1 right? | 20:19 |
creiht | yes please | 20:19 |
mtaylor | annegentle: do you have any thoughts on how we should arrange/publish/deal with multiple doc versions? | 20:20 |
mtaylor | annegentle: as in - should we be publishing the 1.1 docs somewhere and also the trunk docs? | 20:20 |
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annegentle | mtaylor: I think it's a good idea to run two sites if possible - such as: swift.openstack.org/ runs trunk, swift.openstack.org/1.1/ runs the Austin release. Then on each page of the /1.1/ site, put a link to "most recent" | 20:21 |
mtaylor | annegentle: I think that's a swell idea | 20:23 |
annegentle | mtaylor: if you look at http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Captivate/4.0/Using/WS8A15042E-DA1E-46de-B622-C19FEAB88E0A.html you see a yellow box in the lower right corner pointing to the other versions | 20:23 |
annegentle | mtaylor: we can implement something simpler, certainly, but that's the general idea. I can work on the text/presentation and propose a merge (backward one?) | 20:26 |
mtaylor | annegentle: I'm going to go ahead and publish 1.1 to swift.openstack.org/1.1/ ... (setting up hudson jobs for swift 1.1 right now) | 20:27 |
mtaylor | creiht: do you want me to leave the branch owned by swift-release? or make it owned by hudson? | 20:28 |
creiht | mtaylor: I'm fine with whatever makes sense | 20:29 |
mtaylor | creiht: I'm gonna leave it and just add hudson to the release team | 20:29 |
creiht | k | 20:29 |
annegentle | mtaylor: ok, sounds good | 20:29 |
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creiht | mtaylor: woot thanks! | 20:33 |
mtaylor | creiht: tarmac is now hooked up ... as is documentation ... I haven't done all of the others yet | 20:34 |
creiht | cool | 20:34 |
creiht | yeah I just saw the one pending merge we had go through :) | 20:34 |
mtaylor | w00t | 20:34 |
mtaylor | http://swift.openstack.org/1.1/ | 20:34 |
mtaylor | creiht, annegentle ^^ magic | 20:34 |
creiht | Nice | 20:35 |
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eday | dendrobates: are things clear now, or is more needed for the design overview? (distributed scheduler) | 20:40 |
annegentle | mtaylor: niiiice | 20:40 |
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dendrobates | eday: haven't had a chance to look again | 20:40 |
mtaylor | eday: I'm sure more is needed | 20:41 |
mtaylor | eday: if it's distributed, it should probably use mongodb... mongodb is web scale | 20:41 |
dendrobates | mtaylor: I finally saw that video. Holy crap it is funny | 20:42 |
eday | mtaylor: mongodb is an option, if you write the plugin :) | 20:42 |
annegentle | mtaylor: can you do that for nova.openstack as well? | 20:42 |
annegentle | mtaylor: the magic? :) | 20:43 |
creiht | /dev/null is webscale :) | 20:43 |
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mtaylor | annegentle: yes. but not right now. I'm going to watch people do crazy things with video installations for a few minutes | 20:44 |
mtaylor | biab | 20:44 |
ttx | Meeting in #openstack-meeting in 15 minutes | 20:45 |
annegentle | mtaylor: ok, no rush :) | 20:45 |
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ttx | Meeting starting NOW in #openstack-meeting ! | 20:59 |
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sandywalsh | where is the .sql file to initialize a mysql database? Or is this done via sqlalchemy automagically? | 21:10 |
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xtoddx | sandywalsh: automagic | 21:11 |
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piken | vishy: you arround as you are the man for networking with nova :) | 21:12 |
vishy | piken: i'm in the openstack-meeting | 21:12 |
sandywalsh | thx xtoddx | 21:12 |
vishy | piken: but i can bounce back and forth | 21:12 |
piken | I am getting an issue still with spawning an instance on centos5 | 21:13 |
piken | error: Error while building firewall: Some rules could not be created for interface vnet0. | 21:13 |
piken | I am lost as bridge br100 is being created with vlan100 for the vm | 21:14 |
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sandywalsh | does the output from the apps also get written to a file by default or just stdout? If so, where are they located? | 21:49 |
xtoddx | sandywalsh: if you run them --nodaemon (except api where that is default) it is just stdout, otherwise nova-process.log in the current directory | 21:50 |
xtoddx | you can change with --logfile, --use_syslog, and maybe other flags | 21:50 |
sandywalsh | super ... that'll work. Thanks again! | 21:51 |
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Xenith | Does openstack support volumes (perhaps similar to EBS) yet? | 21:52 |
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vishy | piken: I'm not really sure how to debug that one, It would be great to figure out which part of building the firewall is failing | 21:53 |
sandywalsh | Xenith, I know there is a volume service to handle it, but I don't know how rich it is yet | 21:54 |
xtoddx | Xenith: yes, nova supports aoe and iscsi volumes | 21:54 |
sandywalsh | ^^ what he said :) | 21:54 |
uvirtbot | sandywalsh: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 21:54 |
gundlach | thanks uvirtbot | 21:55 |
sandywalsh | haha | 21:55 |
Xenith | That's good news. That's what nova-volume is? | 21:55 |
sandywalsh | yup | 21:55 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #676266 in nova "Describe addresses and associate address throw exceptions" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/676266 | 21:56 |
Xenith | Great. I'll have to take a look at it. I just finished writing my own iscsi volume system, but perhaps I can integrate them for when I start testing openstack deployment. | 21:56 |
xtoddx | xenith: for iscsi you probably want to check out lp:~anso/nova/deploy, i don't think everything is backported to trunk yet | 21:57 |
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anotherjesse | annegentle / gundlach - auto-generation of docs for APIs would be really really nice | 21:58 |
gundlach | anne asked me about that at the summit i think; i wasn't sure how to go about autogeneration | 21:58 |
gundlach | anyway, the documentation needed to learn how to *add* an API method is something like 3 paragraphs and 3 code snippets to point you down the right path. | 21:59 |
* gundlach realizes we might as well just talk about this here rather than email | 21:59 | |
gundlach | annegentle, if i've got a little "HOWTO" type documentation -- "how to add a method to the OpenStack API in 3 easy steps" -- where would that live? | 21:59 |
anotherjesse | gundlach: email would be nice - since others can see it | 21:59 |
anotherjesse | gundlach: there is a developer guide | 22:00 |
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devcamcar | dendrobates: there isn't a blueprint for the release of the django ui - i'm creating one now though | 22:00 |
annegentle | gundlach: add it as an .rst file under nova/doc/source/devguide/ and update the devguide/index.rst to point to it in the HowTo section | 22:01 |
gundlach | annegentle: ok, and then what command do i run to generate docs and see how it looks? | 22:01 |
dendrobates | devcamcar: cool, thanks. Does it need a project created? | 22:01 |
devcamcar | dendrobates: yes it will need one, though it will be at least a few weeks before we're ready to drop code | 22:02 |
devcamcar | depends on schedule stuff | 22:02 |
annegentle | gundlach: from the nova dir, use python setup.py build_sphinx (ignore the ExtensionError about nova_autodoc) and then look in doc/build/ | 22:02 |
devcamcar | realistically probably not til late dec or jan, we'll want to create a non nasa themed template and clean stuff up | 22:02 |
gundlach | annegentle: thank you :) | 22:03 |
devcamcar | dendrobates: so i'm going to drop the blueprint against nova for now just so we have a place to track it | 22:03 |
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vishy | xenith: it is | 22:08 |
vishy | xtoddx: ^^ iscsi is in trunk | 22:09 |
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sandywalsh | hmm, how do specify the disk size with euca-run-instances? is it something with the ramdisk parameter? | 22:20 |
sandywalsh | s/do/to/ | 22:20 |
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devcamcar | dendrobates: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bexar-django-nova-ui | 22:25 |
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sandywalsh | the default disk size seems to be 4.3G? Is that correct? | 22:31 |
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vishy | sandywalsh: -t | 22:40 |
vishy | instance type | 22:40 |
sandywalsh | vishy, and the json file in the image def specs the disk size? | 22:42 |
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vishy | no | 22:43 |
vishy | root drive is expanded to 10G for everything besides m1.tiny | 22:44 |
sandywalsh | hmm, ok. I'll investigate further ... thanks for the tip! | 22:45 |
anotherjesse | vishy - did that hit trunk? | 22:45 |
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vishy | second drive is dependent on type | 22:46 |
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vishy | anotherjesse: yup | 22:46 |
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jaypipes | ttx: hey Thierry, sorry I missed the meeting. my wife had an emergency and I had to run an extra set of keys to her studio. did I miss anything important? | 22:51 |
vishy | jaypipes: you missed everything | 22:52 |
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vishy | jaypipes: especially creiht's hilarious snarky comments | 22:53 |
jaypipes | vishy: yes, I know :) | 22:53 |
jaypipes | vishy: to be expected from that snarky creiht. | 22:53 |
jaypipes | vicious, he is. | 22:53 |
vishy | aye, vishus | 22:53 |
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creiht | heh | 22:57 |
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annegentle | is there a known list of roles intended for nova? I'm not getting anywhere with nova-manage role add username, rolename | 23:16 |
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annegentle | ah, nevermind, found it on http://nova.openstack.org/adminguide/managing.users.html | 23:18 |
annegentle | yay for doc | 23:18 |
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jaypipes | alekibango: congrats on your community award, David! :) | 23:29 |
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creiht | jaypipes: congrats on your well deserved reward :) | 23:30 |
jaypipes | creiht: :P | 23:31 |
jaypipes | creiht: I found OpenStack's new auth system: http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Thourough-Username-Validation.aspx | 23:31 |
jaypipes | creiht: I figured you could get that coded up for swift right quick. | 23:33 |
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creiht | :) | 23:33 |
jaypipes | creiht: I guess I'll just have to create a blueprint for you to do that, just to increase my karma. | 23:35 |
creiht | hah | 23:35 |
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vishy | reviews needed: https://code.launchpad.net/~anso/nova/lp676266/+merge/41021 | 23:47 |
vishy | and two outstanding ones here: https://code.launchpad.net/~vishvananda/nova/ | 23:48 |
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