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| sirp- | jaypipes: db_migration is ready for re-review | 00:03 |
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| that__guy | quick question about user roles: what role would a user need to run an image from a project he was associated with but NOT the projectmanager of? | 00:07 |
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| eday | creiht: What are reasonable limits for swift given current hardware? petabytes? | 00:07 |
| Ryan_Lane | that__guy: sysadmin | 00:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | that__guy: note that he would need to be in the global role, and the project role | 00:09 |
| that__guy | ryan: excellent, thanks. in the docs, it says developer and sysadmin are identical | 00:09 |
| that__guy | ryan: or am I reading old docs | 00:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | because as of right now, they intersect. they aren't a union | 00:10 |
| that__guy | ah | 00:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | sec. lemme see | 00:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | I don't even see developer as a role in the ec2 api | 00:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | just sysadmin, netadmin, and projectmanager | 00:11 |
| that__guy | huh, in bzr545 there's a developer role | 00:12 |
| that__guy | well, I'll give sysadmin a try. thanks | 00:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | seems there is in my version too | 00:12 |
| termie | soren: how long are you around? this meeting is going to go on for a while yet | 00:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | that__guy: but the only place I see it referenced in the code is as an allowed role | 00:13 |
| Ryan_Lane | I don't see it granted any permissions | 00:13 |
| that__guy | ryan: that explains why it doesn't do anything :) | 00:14 |
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| Ryan_Lane | even then, though... | 00:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | your user would need to be in the global and project groups | 00:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | for developer | 00:14 |
| that__guy | oh yeah, just tried it out and it works | 00:15 |
| that__guy | sysadmin, not developer | 00:15 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 00:15 | |
| Ryan_Lane | nova/api/ec2/__init__.py gives a good idea of what roles can do what | 00:16 |
| Ryan_Lane | in the Authorizer class | 00:16 |
| that__guy | ok, I'll check that next time. The docs I'm working off of must be outdated. thanks. | 00:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | yw | 00:17 |
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| bwalker7125 | in nova, is there a way to get public floating ip addresses to automatically associate with a new instance, or must the association be done manually? | 00:22 |
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| kbringard | hey guys, quick ?... anyone know off the top of their head if there is a way to query the API for instances based on the user | 00:28 |
| kbringard | I see that there is a user_id column that is populated | 00:28 |
| kbringard | and in the db api code there is stuff to get it, but I couldn't find anywhere that uses that | 00:29 |
| kbringard | except | 00:29 |
| kbringard | in the compute api | 00:29 |
| kbringard | there is one reference | 00:29 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: sweetness. done with dinner, ready for reviews. ;) | 00:30 |
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| termie | jaypipes: heya, do you know how to do this history rewrite thing for the twiddly? | 00:44 |
| termie | jaypipes: s/twiddly/tilde/ | 00:45 |
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| jaypipes | termie: by "rewrite", I think the only thing to do would be a revision removal and replacement, no? what did soren say was the solution, if anything? | 00:49 |
| termie | jaypipes: aye, revision removal and replacement | 00:51 |
| annegentle | does anyone know how to ban/delete users on the wiki? We have a spammer making pages about gift baskets :) | 00:52 |
| jaypipes | termie: yeah, I could do it..just want to make sure that if I do that, Hudson/Tarmac won't simply rewrite the tilde stuff in the revisions afterwards! :) | 00:52 |
| jaypipes | annegentle: not sure for moinmoin, no... :( | 00:53 |
| annegentle | jaypipes: ok... I may have the ability, just have to figure out how... | 00:55 |
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| jaypipes | mtaylor: around? | 01:04 |
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| annegentle | ok, disabled the user. The wiki is safe again. | 01:07 |
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| jaypipes | annegentle: until he creates a new user ;) | 01:12 |
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| sirp- | jaypipes: just saw your comment; thought of that as well; i guess the question is do we see glance-manage taking on more responsiblities (like nova-manage does currently)? | 01:17 |
| sirp- | i guess for now we could rename glance-manage-registry, and if its role expands, we'll cross that bridge... | 01:19 |
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| jaypipes | sirp-: no, what I was saying is that suppose someone has a different Glance registry server built in, say, Java, and using Redis, the glance-manage db_sync commands would bomb out entirely... | 01:22 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: naming it glance-manage-registry indicates that it is just for managing the reference implementation registry server included with Glance.. | 01:23 |
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| jaypipes | sirp-: or rather, glance-registry-manage | 01:24 |
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| soren | jaypipes: It's just a tag. | 01:43 |
| soren | jaypipes: You can remove tags without touching other metadata. | 01:43 |
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| soren | It's for tomorrow, if I'm going to do it. It's almost 3 here. | 01:44 |
| jaypipes | soren: if you give me instructions, I'll handle it and you go to bed | 01:44 |
| soren | I can't be trusted to cowboy things onto (or out of) trunk at this hour. | 01:44 |
| jaypipes | soren: understood. let's just do it in the morning then, ok? | 01:45 |
| soren | "bzr tag --delete name_of_tag -d lp:nova" from hudson ought to do the trick. | 01:45 |
| jaypipes | termie: is the morning OK to handle this? | 01:45 |
| soren | s/hudson/the hudson box/ | 01:45 |
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| termie | jaypipes: the morning is fine i suppose, but in general the longer it goes this way the more people are going to have to blow away their branches | 01:47 |
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| termie | jaypipes: and an announcement will probably need to be made on the mailing list | 01:49 |
| jaypipes | termie: who is going to have to blow away their branches? | 01:49 |
| jaypipes | termie: doing a bzr branch lp:nova/bexar will result in the same thing tomorrow as today... | 01:49 |
| jaypipes | termie: the only thing that changes is for people doing packaging...which is not many people AFAICT | 01:50 |
| termie | jaypipes: does it? when i pull down new changes i get tags | 01:50 |
| termie | jaypipes: termie@preciousroy:bzr/repo/master % bzr tags [hacking_update] 17:50:35 | 01:50 |
| termie | 0.9.0 182 | 01:50 |
| termie | 2011.1~rc1 645 | 01:50 |
| jaypipes | termie: sure, but what are you doing with that information? | 01:51 |
| termie | jaypipes: it is part of the repo | 01:51 |
| termie | jaypipes: when you pull again it will say diverged | 01:51 |
| jaypipes | termie: who are these folks that are running bzr tags and using that information for something? | 01:51 |
| jaypipes | termie: hmm.. | 01:51 |
| termie | jaypipes: at least that is my guess as to what will happen | 01:51 |
| jaypipes | soren: is that true? | 01:51 |
| jaypipes | termie: I don't think so...but I'd defer to soren. | 01:52 |
| termie | anyway, yes we can wait for soren to be awake again his time | 01:52 |
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| jaypipes | termie: AFAIK, branch diversions in BZR are unrelated to a tag. It's the revno that matters... | 01:52 |
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| jaypipes | termie: unlike git, bzr uses a hierarchical revno so that tags don't have to do with branch diversion at all, so I don't think it will be a problem. But I may of course be wrong :) | 01:53 |
| termie | jaypipes: k, well, hopefully that will be the case | 01:53 |
| creiht | eday: practical limitis for swift are going to be determined more by power, network, and physical space limitations | 01:53 |
| jaypipes | termie: :) we'll see. let's wait until morning. if things get messed, just blame me ;) | 01:53 |
| creiht | petabytes are not a problem at all | 01:53 |
| jaypipes | termie: say hi to johnpur for me... | 01:54 |
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| soren | termie: No. No diversion. | 02:01 |
| soren | termie: However, people will have to manually remove the tag locally if they want to get rid of it. | 02:01 |
| soren | termie: tags are just a very simple name->revid mapping. | 02:02 |
| soren | termie: They're not themselves versioned. | 02:02 |
| soren | Darn it, I should be sleeping. | 02:02 |
| * soren does so | 02:02 | |
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| ttx | for the record, I don't really mind what version encoding we use for tags ... after all we've done without tagging in Nova for most of the cycle | 08:00 |
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| termie | ttx: aye, it appears we only have one other tag in the system | 08:23 |
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| ttx | termie: though soren wanted to use it to trigger some semi-automated release procedure, hence the recent tagging | 08:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712322 in nova "Issue in security group's revoke command" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712322 | 08:36 |
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| ttx | termie, soren: so I propose we think about it a bit more and not rush into something on release day. We'll delete the nova rc tag that broke termie's git import | 08:43 |
| soren | hudson@hudson:~$ bzr tag -d lp:nova --delete 2011.1~rc1 | 08:43 |
| soren | Deleted tag 2011.1~rc1. | 08:43 |
| ttx | (we didn't use tags in Nova during bexar anyway) | 08:43 |
| ttx | We'll just tag 2011.1 | 08:43 |
| ttx | and then we can move the discussion to a slower-moving forum | 08:44 |
| soren | Can I add a 2011.1rc1 tag? I really would like to be able to see in the revision control which version was the rc1. | 08:44 |
| soren | ...and still have the discussion later on for how to do this for cactus? | 08:44 |
| ttx | soren: sure | 08:44 |
| soren | hudson@hudson:~$ bzr tag -d lp:nova -r 645 2011.1rc1 | 08:44 |
| soren | Created tag 2011.1rc1. | 08:44 |
| ttx | termie: If I understand your issue correctly, that should unblock you | 08:45 |
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| berendt | i'm trying to upload a file to swift with the client st. authentication with devauth is working fine. but i only get "Object HEAD failed" with return code 400 (bad request). ideas what could be wrong..? | 08:45 |
| termie | soren: thanks, checkin | 08:46 |
| termie | soren: wonderful, works with everythign i can think of | 08:53 |
| termie | soren: thanks for sorting that out | 08:53 |
| * soren tips his hat | 08:57 | |
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| ttx | ok, looks like Bexar is out, folks | 09:34 |
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| *** soren changes topic to "Bexar released! Great work, everyone! | http://wiki.openstack.org/ | OpenStack first release: http://openstack.org/blog/2010/10/openstack-austin-release-is-out/ | Nova Docs: nova.openstack.org | Swift Docs: swift.openstack.org | Wiki: wiki.openstack.org | Logs: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ | http://paste.openstack.org/" | 09:50 | |
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| Dweezahr | thanks, will check this new version in the evening | 09:52 |
| DigitalFlux | Hi Guys | 09:53 |
| DigitalFlux | I was wondering if Bexar is installable on Lucid ? or we are just going with 10.10 now ? | 09:53 |
| soren | should be. | 09:59 |
| flashn | anyone running openstack on UCS? | 10:01 |
| soren | What's UCS? | 10:19 |
| flashn | Cisco UCS | 10:20 |
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| zul | fhi 2011.1 uploaded to the ubuntu archive | 12:07 |
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| ttx | for anything releas-ish see soren | 12:14 |
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| fouad_ | hi | 12:36 |
| fouad_ | we are trying to deploy openstack nova multiple instances on amazon ec2 | 12:37 |
| fouad_ | but we ran into the problem with subnet issues | 12:37 |
| fouad_ | is it possible to have some sort of hybrid cloud where instances are not on the same subnet? | 12:38 |
| fouad_ | that is they have independent public IPs | 12:38 |
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| jaypipes | this temperature is just uncivilized. | 13:34 |
| jaypipes | fouad_: I would ask vishy when he's around... | 13:35 |
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| fouad_ | ok thanks jaypipes | 13:45 |
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| zul | jaypipes: just a tad cold? | 13:47 |
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| jaypipes | zul: bbbbbbbrrrrrr. | 13:50 |
| zul | jaypipes: how cold? | 13:50 |
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| jaypipes | zul: 14F wind chill -1. | 13:52 |
| zul | jaypipes: yeah a bit cold | 13:52 |
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| jaypipes | zul: my little pug goes outside and turns into a popsicle almost immediately. | 13:53 |
| zul | jaypipes: -4F here :) | 13:53 |
| jaypipes | zul: she looks like one of those fainting goats I've seen on Discovery channel. | 13:54 |
| jaypipes | zul: where are you? | 13:54 |
| zul | jaypipes: lol ottawa right now | 13:54 |
| jaypipes | zul: gotcha. | 13:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712481 in nova "nova testsuite fails in the buildds." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712481 | 14:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #712469 in nova "unable to atach-volume on different host (iscsiadm has volume-00000006, nova has vol-00000006)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712469 | 14:12 |
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| berendt | is swauth fully integrated into swift now or is it necessary to install files from https://launchpad.net/swauth? | 14:17 |
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| notmyname | swauth is fully in swift now. the separate project is superfluous | 14:20 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712514 in swift "exception in proxy-server while running swauth-prep" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712514 | 15:01 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: around? know about this? http://trac.pythonpaste.org/pythonpaste/ticket/379 wondering if you've run into this with swift... | 15:09 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #712517 in swift "calling swift-init without parameters ends in a traceback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712517 | 15:11 |
| creiht | jaypipes: yeah, but we don't do a lot of fancy stuff in the configs, so we haven't run into that issue | 15:14 |
| jaypipes | creiht: k. so you'd advise just waiting that patch out and making the log configs as simple as possible? IOW, hard-code the log format and let other things be configurable? ;) | 15:16 |
| creiht | berendt: a 400 code usueally means that the request wasn't made properly, can you post the args you sent with st? | 15:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #712526 in swauth "is it possible to remove this project?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712526 | 15:17 |
| creiht | jaypipes: yeah I would say hard code for now I guess | 15:17 |
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| jaypipes | sirp-: w00t. we are now paste.deployed. | 15:26 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to ask you to review this specific glance patch since you know paste.deploy well. is that alright? | 15:27 |
| creiht | jaypipes: sure | 15:28 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: cheers. | 15:30 |
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| sandywalsh | is there a reason we're using rabbit 1.8 and not 2.3? | 15:53 |
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| openstackhudson | Project nova build #486: SUCCESS in 1 min 31 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/nova/486/ | 15:57 |
| openstackhudson | Tarmac: open cactus | 15:57 |
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| masumotok | devcamcar: Hello, can you tell me what should I do if I encounter "connection refused" error? I successfully login as admin and press "instances" "volumes" "keys", but all of them finishes "connection refused"... executing euca-describe-images gave me correct result, so, nova is no problem. do I have to add other info to local/local_settings.py? | 15:58 |
| masumotok | devcamcar: sorry, I'm saying about dashboard. | 15:59 |
| thimble | masumotok: what dashboard are you talking about? | 16:06 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: not too far ;) | 16:10 |
| masumotok | thimble: this one <http://wiki.openstack.org/OpenStackDashboard> | 16:10 |
| thimble | have a minute, Ryan_Lane? | 16:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | sure | 16:11 |
| thimble | masumotok, thanks | 16:11 |
| thimble | so, I´ve some problems regarding your extension. | 16:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh. was expecting it :) | 16:12 |
| thimble | ;) | 16:12 |
| thimble | okay, plain wiki installation, first user is WikiSysop. Next I´ve configured nova to use ldap and switched the wiki to use ldap auth | 16:13 |
| thimble | created a user with nova-manage. The entry was created in the, yes here it is: openldap-directory | 16:14 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh. openldap should be fine :) | 16:15 |
| soren | Ok, so Nova's Cactus branch is now open. | 16:15 |
| thimble | Logged in with the new user after setting the userpassword in the directory and could access the wiki | 16:15 |
| Ryan_Lane | are you using cn or uid as the naming attribute? | 16:16 |
| thimble | Wow, no access to any special pages regarding nova... okay. Disabled extension (ldap and nova), logged in via WikiSysop, moved the user to admin group, reactivated ldap and nova. | 16:16 |
| ctennis | hey soren, who is the release person? notmyname? | 16:16 |
| thimble | uh | 16:16 |
| notmyname | not me | 16:16 |
| soren | jaypipes, creiht: The bzr branches of glance and swift are ready to rock and roll. Do you guys want to set up release ppa's, too? | 16:16 |
| soren | ctennis: The release person? | 16:16 |
| notmyname | ctennis: ttx | 16:16 |
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| soren | ctennis: What do you need? | 16:17 |
| ctennis | I just want to request that you guys tag the releases in bzr | 16:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: ah. yeah. I need better documentation :) | 16:17 |
| ctennis | either 1.0 or 1.1 or austin/bexar, etc | 16:17 |
| soren | ttx is our release manager, but he's ill and in transit. I'm supposed to stand in. | 16:17 |
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| ctennis | I'm at strata if I need to poke anybody directly :) | 16:18 |
| ctennis | But, when going through the commit history its hard to be able to see what commits landed in a particular release without the tags | 16:18 |
| jaypipes | soren: what does that mean, exactly? Could you elaborate? Not sure what that adds over the already-existing PyPI, Launchpad downloads area? | 16:18 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: so, now I see the pages... could access e.g. Projects but when I want to add my user (which is logged in) to the netadmin role, i get a failure. Any debugging hints? | 16:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: when nova-manage creates users, it uses uid | 16:18 |
| dendrobates | soren: I will try to help as much as possible, what is the status | 16:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | is your user an admin on the wiki? | 16:18 |
| soren | jaypipes: for nova, there's a separate ppa for final releases. | 16:18 |
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| soren | jaypipes: At release time, the packages from trunk get copied over. | 16:19 |
| jaypipes | soren: do we absolutely need one of those? who uses that? | 16:19 |
| dendrobates | soren: no ppa for releases | 16:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | I did push some changes to that code lately, let me make sure it's still working properly | 16:19 |
| soren | jaypipes: If we absolutely needed it, I wouldn't ask if you wanted one :) | 16:19 |
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| jaypipes | soren: is it for packagers? just trying to understand. | 16:19 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: the user is in the admin-group. I´ve moved him with deactivting / activating the extension | 16:19 |
| soren | dendrobates: No ppa for releases? What? | 16:19 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 16:19 | |
| Ryan_Lane | that should work then | 16:19 |
| soren | jaypipes: It's for people who want to be able to install our stuff from a ppa, but don't want to track trunk. | 16:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | lemme test this | 16:19 |
| jaypipes | soren: Ah, I see, sorry. | 16:20 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: I´ll order pizza and stay here. ;) | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | soren: yes, that would nice, thanks. | 16:20 |
| dendrobates | ok there is a ppa, but it is not the official release | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | soren: sorry, was misunderstanding what it was for... it's for Debian/Ubuntu users who want a .deb to install via apt-get, right? | 16:20 |
| dendrobates | I still a little off kilter from my fall | 16:20 |
| jaypipes | dendrobates: what happened? :( | 16:21 |
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| soren | jaypipes: Uh.. I meant: "Do you guys want to set up[...]". Not "Do you guys want to have [...] set up?" :) | 16:23 |
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| creiht | soren: Yes please | 16:23 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: hmm, no. it's working for me | 16:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: there's a difference though | 16:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | I have the wiki configured to create accounts | 16:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | I used nova-manage to create the admin account that I have configured in LocalSettings.php | 16:24 |
| Ryan_Lane | but not for accounts in the wiki | 16:24 |
| jaypipes | soren: I don't know how to do that, so I could use some assistance please. | 16:24 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: wait a minute, I will do this | 16:25 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712575 in glance "Database tables not created in glance.registry.db.api.register_models()" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712575 | 16:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: if you pastebin me your config for ldap and openstack manager, I'll take a look at it (make sure to snip out sensitive stuff) | 16:26 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: which option do you configure within LocalSettings then? The writerdn ? | 16:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah, and a few others | 16:26 |
| thimble | wait, I´ll gibe paste an chance | 16:27 |
| thimble | wow, this keyboard is terrible. | 16:27 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/TP49sMvq | 16:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | and yes, this is a lot of configuration. heh :) | 16:30 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: http://pastebin.com/wLxvr6gD | 16:31 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: you don't need SearchStrings defined | 16:33 |
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| Ryan_Lane | let me see how I'm creating users... | 16:33 |
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| grapex | /msg nickserv register markerPrime72 tim.simpson@rackspace.com | 16:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah, uid should work fine as a naming attribute. it shouldn't care which you are using | 16:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | grapex: :) | 16:35 |
| creiht | lol | 16:35 |
| grapex | Nice | 16:35 |
| thimble | hehe | 16:35 |
| thimble | purge the irc log today, he? | 16:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | that's more like a password reset there ;) | 16:36 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: hmm what error do you get when you try to add a user to netadmin? | 16:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | and are you trying to add to the global, or project group? | 16:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | if it's the global one, I think I know what could be wrong :) | 16:37 |
| grapex | /msg nickserv | 16:37 |
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| grapex | Ok, I get it. Sorry for the public test guys. | 16:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: the global group needs to be created before the extension can modify it. | 16:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | I guess I should add code in to also create it | 16:38 |
| * Ryan_Lane goes to create a bug | 16:38 | |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: /wiki/index.php/Special:NovaRole <-- try to add the user which is logged in to the netadmin role: Failed to add <user> to sysadmin. Each operation I will submit seems to fail. This is, why I ask for detailed debugging options ;) | 16:39 |
| * thimble didn´t want someone to create bugs :( | 16:39 | |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: detailed debugging should show up in the ldap log | 16:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | and the openldap log | 16:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm expecting a lot of bugs to be created ;) | 16:40 |
| pvo | annegentle: props for http://docs.openstack.org | 16:40 |
| pvo | looks great | 16:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: so, you'll need to add the groups manually. | 16:40 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: which group? groupentry or ou? | 16:40 |
| annegentle | pvo: thanks! the look props go to Todd Morey and docbook's webhelp. | 16:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: cn=netadmins,ou=groups,dc=colo,dc=example,dc=de | 16:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: that needs to exist | 16:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | as a groupofnames | 16:41 |
| pvo | it was a group effort sure but that is a huge effort for the 2nd release. Way to go. | 16:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: if ou=groups doesn't exist, then it needs to be created too | 16:41 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: ah, groupofnames... I´ll drop my posixGroup. moment | 16:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | with the extension, only projects get posixgroup ;) | 16:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | but they are also groupofnames | 16:42 |
| Ryan_Lane | projects will be created for you automatically | 16:42 |
| soren | jaypipes, creiht: I got it. Give me 10 minutes. | 16:42 |
| thimble | just a moment, Ryan_Lane | 16:42 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 16:43 | |
| creiht | soren: thanks | 16:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: oh, I know I set the default for wgOpenStackManagerLDAPRolesIntersect to false, but you should set it to true for now :) | 16:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: as currently, that's the behavior in nova | 16:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | the default being false is because I hope to fix that in nova soon ;) | 16:44 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: groupOfMembers added, I´ll give them a try now | 16:47 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's totally cool to have posixgroup on there too, if you want your instances to use those as posix groups | 16:48 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: that does´nt work. I´ve tried to create a nwe project an got the same error. I´ll have a closer look with turning debugging on slapd to sensitive. | 16:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's just that the extension won't do that for you ;) | 16:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | turn the logging of the ldap extension up to 5 or so too | 16:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: you have the schema added, right? | 16:49 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: all three schemes are there | 16:50 |
| * Ryan_Lane nods | 16:50 | |
| soren | creiht: Uh, turns out I can't, because I'm apparently not in swift-core. | 16:50 |
| creiht | lol | 16:50 |
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| creiht | mtaylor: can you make the ppas for swift | 16:50 |
| soren | I can make the ppa. | 16:50 |
| soren | I can also add myself to swift-core. | 16:50 |
| creiht | lol | 16:50 |
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| soren | If that's ok? | 16:50 |
| creiht | soren: so you already want to break the process? :) | 16:51 |
| * soren makes a rude gesture | 16:51 | |
| soren | Dude,you wanted my help. | 16:51 |
| creiht | hehe | 16:51 |
| * thimble is really hungry. | 16:51 | |
| soren | whatever, mean. Figure it out. | 16:51 |
| creiht | you offered before I even asked :) | 16:51 |
| soren | Uh, no I didn't. | 16:51 |
| soren | I asked you guys wanted to set one up. | 16:51 |
| creiht | heh | 16:52 |
| creiht | anyways | 16:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: go get food. I'll be around all day ;) | 16:52 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: wife is blocking phone... no way to order. :( | 16:52 |
| thimble | I´ll have some minutes ;) | 16:52 |
| Ryan_Lane | :D | 16:52 |
| creiht | mtaylor: would you mind adding the swift ppas? | 16:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | have I mentioned that my software is historically difficult to configure? :) | 16:53 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: no. It´s not difficult. Sell it via paypal as an growing adventure game ;) | 16:53 |
| Ryan_Lane | hah. I'll sell the adventure guide since the game is free ;) | 16:54 |
| * thimble will become the gamemaster. | 16:55 | |
| Ryan_Lane | I shouldn't require the manager to create users. It should be able to add attributes/objectclasses to existing users. I fixed this in nova, so it's kind of sad that I didn't in my own code. | 16:55 |
| * Ryan_Lane goes to file another bug | 16:55 | |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: debug-level to see the submitted ldap-queries? | 16:58 |
| Ryan_Lane | in openldap? no clue :) | 16:59 |
| thimble | oh, I meant your extension | 16:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | the extension debug was really written for me in mind, so that I can find where things are breaking in the code | 16:59 |
| Ryan_Lane | openldap should show you the queries | 16:59 |
| thimble | ok, I´ll check this. Your log is delivering: basedn is not set for this type of entry, trying to get the default basedn. | 17:00 |
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| Ryan_Lane | yeah. that's not an issue, as long as you have some basedn set. (I set more granular basedns for performance reasons) | 17:00 |
| DigitalFlux | Hi Guys | 17:01 |
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| DigitalFlux | What about those PPAs listed at http://www.mail-archive.com/nova@lists.launchpad.net/msg00321.html ? | 17:02 |
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| DigitalFlux | Do we have the "Release PPA" for Bexar ? | 17:02 |
| DigitalFlux | I mean how can i install the Bexar release without using the trunk PPA that installs the bleeding edge ? | 17:02 |
| soren | DigitalFlux: For nova and glance, yes. | 17:02 |
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| soren | DigitalFlux: Hm... They're called /release, though. Not /stable. | 17:03 |
| DigitalFlux | Ah i see | 17:03 |
| soren | :( | 17:03 |
| DigitalFlux | Just tried /stable and didn't work | 17:03 |
| DigitalFlux | checking .. | 17:03 |
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| * DigitalFlux blames soren -> Maintainer: Soren Hansen :P | 17:05 | |
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| soren | DigitalFlux: It's totally my fault. | 17:05 |
| DigitalFlux | kidding man, you are super ;) | 17:05 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: adding my user directly in the tree to the neccessary groupOfNames should be enough ? | 17:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | yeah, but you really want the extension to do it :) | 17:08 |
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| jaypipes | sirp-: around? got a fun one for you... | 17:08 |
| Ryan_Lane | if it is having issues creating projects, it's going to have issues with other things | 17:08 |
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| sirp- | jaypipes: yep, im here | 17:09 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: been tracking down the solution to bug 705854 and found an interesting statement in the SQLAlchemy docs about the @validates decorator: "Validators, like all attribute extensions, are only called by normal userland code; they are not issued when the ORM is populating the object." http://www.sqlalchemy.org/docs/orm/mapper_config.html#simple-validators | 17:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 705854 in rp-pppoe "caller station id (remotenumber fro pppd) " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/705854 | 17:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: openldap doesn't show any issues? | 17:09 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: it should show the mod or add operation | 17:10 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: sorry, bug 704854 | 17:10 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 704854 in glance "Add an image to Glance with wrong type and underlying exception gets eaten" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/704854 | 17:10 |
| fouad_ | vishy, | 17:10 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: is your wiki publically accessible? | 17:10 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: public: no. With debug high, I really got the option to configure a wrong entry. I´m testing | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: after adding some logging statements to the registry and api servers, check this out: http://paste.openstack.org/show/627/ | 17:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: what error does the the wiki give when you go to create a project? just "Failed to create project"? | 17:11 |
| thimble | yes | 17:11 |
| Ryan_Lane | I really need more specific error messages. | 17:11 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: note how the image_create() call succeeds even with a bad type attribute, but the @validate decorator is fired for the image_update() call... | 17:11 |
| * Ryan_Lane goes to file another bug | 17:12 | |
| thimble | hehe, I´m sorry ;) | 17:12 |
| Ryan_Lane | no. it's good to have open bugs | 17:12 |
| sirp- | jaypipes: ah, yeah, see that | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: so, it's not the exception is being eaten, it's that the exception isn't even being raised when doing the image_create(), but it *is* raised when doing an image_update() with identical data. :( | 17:13 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: weird. | 17:13 |
| thimble | so Ryan | 17:13 |
| thimble | maybe... it is | 17:14 |
| thimble | a nightmare | 17:14 |
| thimble | maybe | 17:14 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: I mean, technically, the image ID shouldn't even be generated...the call to image.save() should throw an error... | 17:14 |
| thimble | just a minute | 17:14 |
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| sirp- | jaypipes: i thought SA would detect the absence of the ID and use db-driver to generate one | 17:15 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: no, I mean when calling image_create() with no identifier (which is the case here), SA shouldn't even populate a new image ID because the type is missing and the save should raise a validation error. | 17:15 |
| thimble | öhm | 17:16 |
| sirp- | jaypipes: ah right, yeah, that i have no clue on | 17:16 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: which it *does* when calling image.save() in image_update(), but not in image_create()... | 17:16 |
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| sirp- | jaypipes: as a desperate measure, we could add logging directly to SA to see why the validation isn't getting tripped | 17:17 |
| sirp- | *curious* | 17:17 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: can create roles now... | 17:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: what was the issue? | 17:17 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: changed "sysadmins" to "sysadmin" and so on | 17:17 |
| doude | Hi, I've got a pb when an instance start and ask for metadata, the EC2 API try to get instance's informations from the db with the remote IP of the request. But in my case, the request was DNATed by the nova-network to forward to nova-api IP on TCP port 8773, no proxy is used (use_forwaded_for is useless). Is there another way to solve that ? | 17:17 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: the project roles are "sysadmin, netadmin, etc", and the global roles are "sysadmins, netadmins, etc" | 17:18 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: if you change that, you'll need to change it in LocalSettings, and in nova.conf | 17:18 |
| jaypipes | sirp-: yeah, I'm playing around with it.... | 17:18 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: you can't change the project roles. they *must* be sysadmin, netadmin, etc. | 17:19 |
| soren | doude: I don't see a problem in your explanation? | 17:19 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: those are created automatically for you, when you create projects though | 17:19 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: no, wait: I changed the name of the groupOfMembers | 17:19 |
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| Ryan_Lane | groupOfMembers, or groupOfNames? | 17:20 |
| soren | jaypipes: I've created the ppa for you guys and copied the stuff from the trunk ppa over. | 17:20 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: horrible. Wait. I´ve some .. uhm .. entries inmy tree now. moment | 17:21 |
| * soren needs to stop thinking of "glance-core" as "you guys", I guess. | 17:21 | |
| doude | soren: The request for metadata are DNATed from 169.254.169.254 to ec2_dmz_host by nova-manage in VLAN network mode, yes ? | 17:23 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: I don´t know. Really. Seems to be working now. I think I´ll reset the whole directory and give it another try tomorrow. groupOfNames was the one, I think (insteat of posixGroups). | 17:24 |
| thimble | I can add projects and roles | 17:24 |
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| soren | doude: Something like that, yes. | 17:25 |
| doude | soren: no, i made a mistake sorry | 17:25 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: ah, yeah. groupOfNames is definitely needed :) | 17:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: nova uses groupOfNames exclusively. I add posixGroup so that the instances have groups with users set up based on projects | 17:26 |
| Ryan_Lane | my web interface is very much a fully integrated solution. i guess I should make that optional | 17:27 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: possible, I need to entries: sysadmins as groupOfMembers and another entry (got groupOfMembers, too) called sysadmin (without s) ? Then it works. Where do i referr to "sysadmin"? | 17:29 |
| thimble | NO | 17:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | you shouldn't need a group called sysadmin | 17:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | the extension handles that for you | 17:30 |
| thimble | really not groupOfMembers... | 17:30 |
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| Ryan_Lane | you only need to add the global groups (sysadmins, netadmins, and cloudadmins) | 17:30 |
| sumurrut | Anybody getting a "403 Forbidden when using Vishy's script"? I'm using MySQL and MySQL or Slapd for authentication. It fails with bexar. Austin did work. | 17:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: which nova schema version are you using? | 17:31 |
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| Ryan_Lane | 1 or 2? | 17:31 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: okay. I´ll reset the whole directory tomorrow and will give it another try. Maybe I´ve misconfigured something there now (misconfigured to get it working ;) ). | 17:31 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: the project groups (sysadmin and netadmin) are created automatically with the project | 17:31 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: also, just having the global group exist is enough, the extension can add the members for you | 17:32 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: root@controller:/opt# /opt/nova/bin/nova-manage db version --> 2 | 17:33 |
| doude | soren: sorry, I found what was my mistake | 17:33 |
| soren | doude: Cool | 17:33 |
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| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: heh. that's different :) | 17:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: you are using the nova.sh? | 17:33 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: yes | 17:34 |
| jaypipes | soren: thx. but kinda wanted to know how to do it...teach a man to fish and all that.... | 17:34 |
| Ryan_Lane | I guess it should be using schema version 2 then | 17:34 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: I think it performs a migration process on start | 17:34 |
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| Ryan_Lane | mysql database schema and the ldap schema are different | 17:35 |
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| Ryan_Lane | nova will not perform an ldap schema migration | 17:35 |
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| Ryan_Lane | but nova.sh recreates the openldap database every time, so it should be adding the version 2 schema | 17:35 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: ok. I have tried without ldap, MySQL only and I get the same result. So I guess the problem is in a different place | 17:36 |
| jaypipes | sirp_: w00t. fixed. http://paste.openstack.org/show/628/ | 17:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: what does the api show for output? | 17:36 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: it should really not be possible to add empty values! :) | 17:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: the api's logs, that is | 17:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: in a group? sure it is :) | 17:36 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: groups can have no members | 17:36 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: it shows"2011-02-03 18:25:16,568 AUDIT nova.api [-] Authentication Failure: No user for access key admin" | 17:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: try to add a user/project manually | 17:37 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: ok. I will come back later if I cannot fix it. | 17:38 |
| sumurrut | Ryan_Lane: thankx! | 17:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: nova-manage user admin admin | 17:38 |
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| Ryan_Lane | sumurrut: also, do a search in the ldap database | 17:38 |
| soren | jaypipes: Ah, sorry, I thought you preferred that I do it. | 17:38 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: submitting an empty value while adding a role member to any group should be forbidden. Tell me, why I am wrong? | 17:38 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: oh, yeah. that's totally not allowed | 17:38 |
| thimble | it works | 17:38 |
| thimble | file a bug? ;) | 17:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: but creating a group with no members is ok | 17:39 |
| thimble | of course | 17:39 |
| thimble | but the other way is working :( | 17:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | hah. i'm not adding a bug with openldap | 17:39 |
| thimble | feature-rich, I think ;) | 17:39 |
| Ryan_Lane | the extension will only allow you to add wiki users ;) | 17:39 |
| thimble | so, gimme a combo-box? | 17:40 |
| soren | jaypipes: There's not much to it. On the package details page of the ppa, there's a "Copy packages" link. You go in there, and copy everything to the release PPA (making sure to also copy the binaries). | 17:40 |
| soren | jaypipes: That's pretty much it. | 17:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: btw, you can configure the extension to use different attributes for wiki name and shell name. | 17:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: well, I would... but if there are 2000 users, that's a problem ;) | 17:40 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'll add an ajax call at some point to use search-as-you-type | 17:40 |
| jaypipes | soren: ah, k. thx :) | 17:41 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: ajax | 17:41 |
| thimble | ah | 17:41 |
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| thimble | think, you are faster than me | 17:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | I use multi-selects for removal, and addition to things where the user list is going to be small | 17:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | thimble: I'm used to programming for something that has millions of users :) | 17:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | what I really need is one of our interface people to help me. I usually do backend code | 17:42 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: just for fun: for each existing user open a new tab ;) | 17:42 |
| thimble | Ryan_Lane: any option like SQL count? maybe you can divide combos then | 17:43 |
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| Ryan_Lane | search-as-you-type is really the best solution :) | 17:44 |
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| Ryan_Lane | thimble: patches welcome for good solution though :D | 17:46 |
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| thimble | Ryan_Lane: thanks. I´ll reset my tree tomorrow, as said. Hope, it will all work out of the box then. Maybe you are bored and will release a newer trunk this night? ;) | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | just pull from trunk | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | trunk always works | 17:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | meaning, I don't submit knowingly broken code there :) | 17:48 |
| thimble | hehe, I´ll see. Maybe I encouraged you to do this for me ;) | 17:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | heh. naa. I have a site for demo purposes that continuously pulls from trunk ;) | 17:49 |
| bwalker7125 | quick question - is there a way to get floating ips to automatically associate with a new instance, or must that association be done manually? | 17:49 |
| Ryan_Lane | it's possible to pull instance sizes from the api now, right? | 17:50 |
| * thimble thanks Ryan_Lane and waves. Until tomorrow. May wife put the phone away. | 17:50 | |
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| Ryan_Lane | does it return just the sizes, or also descriptions of the sizes too? | 17:50 |
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| bud1948 | Hello, does nova have web interface? | 18:14 |
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| j05h | bud1948: openstack-dashboard | 18:15 |
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| j05h | https://launchpad.net/openstack-dashboard | 18:15 |
| bud1948 | thanks a lot! | 18:16 |
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| bud1948 | Is there anyway to install a whole OS on a persistent volume? | 18:18 |
| jaypipes | _cerberus_: mind giving this one a once over and approving if all good? thx in advance! https://code.launchpad.net/~rconradharris/glance/registry_db_migration/+merge/48406 | 18:19 |
| jaypipes | bud1948: there is also a django-nova project... devcamcar and others are working on it. not sure of status at this point though I've heard it's pretty neato. :) | 18:20 |
| _cerberus_ | jaypipes: sure | 18:21 |
| jaypipes | _cerberus_: cheers | 18:21 |
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| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: don't think you can pull the INSTANCE_TYPES thru the API yet … it's a constant that isn't really exposed anywhere. i'm working on a branch to bring it thru adminclient (and make it configurable). The blueprint is at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/configure-instance-types-dynamically | 18:29 |
| Ryan_Lane | I thought the dashboard wanted that for bexar? | 18:29 |
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| Ryan_Lane | I know it's hardcoding them for now, like I am | 18:30 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: hmmm … let me check but pretty sure they are hardcoded also | 18:30 |
| Ryan_Lane | kpepple: with this branch, will I be able to pull the info via EC2 api, or only the rackspace one? | 18:32 |
| Ryan_Lane | or just via nova-manage? | 18:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | nova-manage wouldn't help me much :) | 18:33 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: i take that back … in adminclient, there is get_instance_types which seems to call "DescribeInstanceTypes" and returns a list | 18:33 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. cool | 18:33 |
| * Ryan_Lane goes to call that | 18:34 | |
| Ryan_Lane | or not. the sdk I'm using doesn't have that call | 18:34 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: out of scope for my blueprint … i want to make the instance_types dynamic (i.e. we can change them at runtime instead of just build time) and expose it thru the nova-manage / adminclient interface. | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | adminclient is an API? | 18:35 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: i don't think that call is standard EC2 API nor Openstack API | 18:35 |
| Ryan_Lane | seems it isn't :( | 18:35 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: adminclient is a library that you can include (like openstack-dashboard does) that talks to the admin interface in nova … it's a like a parallel api to EC2 or Openstack … and it's only for admins | 18:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | I'm going to have to look at the library then... | 18:37 |
| Ryan_Lane | because I'm using php | 18:37 |
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| Ryan_Lane | nova/adminclient.py, I'm assuming? | 18:38 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: yes | 18:39 |
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| Ryan_Lane | hah. I could be using this instead of a lot of my ldap calls :) | 18:41 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: it simplifies a lot of admin related calls | 18:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | it was added well after I started that though. I'll need to switch to this at some point in time | 18:41 |
| Ryan_Lane | this doesn't have instance-type info though | 18:43 |
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| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: line 416 | 18:43 |
| Ryan_Lane | ah. DescribeHosts? | 18:44 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: ooops … i'm in my development branch and might have added this … hold on | 18:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh. I'm also using an old trunk snapshot ;) | 18:44 |
| Ryan_Lane | full of patches. heh | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | I always wait before my changes hit trunk ppa before I upgrade. | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | s/wait before/wait for/ | 18:45 |
| Ryan_Lane | the bad thing is that I'd have to reimplement all of this stuff anyway | 18:46 |
| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: i have it on nova/adminclient:428 in trunk | 18:46 |
| Ryan_Lane | since this is ec2 api based, and the sdk I'm using doesn't offer these functions | 18:46 |
| Ryan_Lane | I wonder if aws-sdk is extendable... | 18:47 |
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| kpepple | Ryan_Lane: it's regular REST call, so you could just go lower and parse the resulting json/xml | 18:48 |
| Ryan_Lane | oh? that should work then | 18:48 |
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| Ryan_Lane | ah. I can make the call directly through the sdk | 18:50 |
| Ryan_Lane | the function they use for calls is public | 18:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712681 in nova "gflag --pidfile isn't working" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712681 | 19:11 |
| DigitalFlux | Hi Guys | 19:11 |
| DigitalFlux | just installed Bexar | 19:12 |
| DigitalFlux | when launching an instance i get the following error in the logs | 19:12 |
| DigitalFlux | Command: sudo iptables-save -t filter -> Stderr: 'sudo: no tty present and no askpass program specified\n' | 19:12 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: which log ? | 19:13 |
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| DigitalFlux | kpepple: Well, i just destroyed the test machines to go out of the office :) | 19:15 |
| DigitalFlux | kpepple: but those logs was on the compute node | 19:15 |
| DigitalFlux | so it's either nova-compute or nova-volume | 19:16 |
| DigitalFlux | i guess it's nova-compute | 19:16 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: were you able to login to the instance ? | 19:19 |
| DigitalFlux | kpepple: I don't think i could, euca-describe-images showed that the instance was still pending and virsh list showed no VM up | 19:20 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: which image did you launch ? | 19:20 |
| DigitalFlux | ttylinux | 19:20 |
| DigitalFlux | soren's .. | 19:20 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: hmmm … can't replicate this on my machine. Ubuntu 10.10 host ? | 19:21 |
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| DigitalFlux | kpepple: Nope, 10.04 | 19:24 |
| DigitalFlux | kpepple: I will test this again tomorrow .. | 19:25 |
| openstackhudson | Project dashboard-tarmac build #505: FAILURE in 22 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/dashboard-tarmac/505/ | 19:26 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: got it … the error means that your image doesn't have a tty ready for your command … probably because it hasn't booted. you real problem is the image not booting. make sure you have KVM running (try launching an image through virsh …) and such | 19:27 |
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| DigitalFlux | kpepple: Hmm, this helps, will test this tomorrow and feed you back | 19:29 |
| DigitalFlux | kpepple: Thanks :-) | 19:29 |
| kpepple | DigitalFlux: good luck | 19:30 |
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| openstackhudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 19:30 |
| openstackhudson | Project dashboard-tarmac build #506: FIXED in 1.9 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/dashboard-tarmac/506/ | 19:30 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: can I ask why swift does not use paster serve for deploying? is there a reason you chose to write the swift-init daemonizing tool? | 19:42 |
| jaypipes | creiht: does it have to do with eventlet? | 19:42 |
| creiht | 1st reason would be that we didn't use any paste at the beginning | 19:43 |
| jaypipes | creiht: ok. I'm wondering if Spawning would be a good alternative? Any thoughts? http://pypi.python.org/pypi/Spawning | 19:44 |
| annegentle | Hey, here's Dustin at Strata! http://www.flickr.com/photos/oreillyconf/5413873486/in/set-72157625957770166/ | 19:45 |
| creiht | I also was never real fond of paster serve | 19:45 |
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| creiht | And we were very concerned about performance | 19:45 |
| creiht | Spawning has come a ways since we first started | 19:46 |
| openstackhudson | Project swift build #190: SUCCESS in 35 sec: http://hudson.openstack.org/job/swift/190/ | 19:46 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: so... Glance must have a way of starting its servers. Do you advise we go the swift-init route, or paster, or Spawning, or ... ? :) | 19:47 |
| creiht | jaypipes: yeah the paster serve stuff is thread based | 19:47 |
| creiht | hehe | 19:47 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I have no clue really... | 19:47 |
| creiht | yeah I'm pondering that right now | 19:48 |
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| creiht | swift has kinda organically gotten to where it is now | 19:48 |
| jaypipes | creiht: would, of course, be best to use some existing lib/tool, but only if it performs well... | 19:49 |
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| creiht | well the nice thing about wsgi apps, is that in theory you should be able to run then with any wsgi server | 19:50 |
| jaypipes | creiht: right, but of course, here we are trying to decide *which* wsgi server ;) | 19:51 |
| creiht | jaypipes: gnunicorn is fairly interesting as well | 19:51 |
| creiht | hehe | 19:51 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: I mean, I understand the idea of leaving that up to deployers, but I think Glance should at the very least have some documentation on starting up the daemons with some specific WSGI server... | 19:52 |
| creiht | jaypipes: oh agreed | 19:52 |
| creiht | jaypipes: I'm not sure I could say without doing some specific testing | 19:52 |
| jaypipes | creiht: I think I'll just put some docs together as an example of using paster serve, and note that YMMV, etc.. | 19:53 |
| creiht | But spawning and gunicorn are probably going to be prety good candidate | 19:53 |
| creiht | jaypipes: what is nova going to use as its server? | 19:54 |
| jaypipes | creiht: no idea. | 19:54 |
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| creiht | I think for the time being swift will stick to using our custom server | 19:56 |
| creiht | as it is tailored specifically to the swift use case | 19:56 |
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| creiht | and works rather well for it | 19:56 |
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| jaypipes | creiht: yup, no worries there... | 19:58 |
| jaypipes | creiht: thx for the discussion, and the hint about gnunicorn. Unicorns FTW. | 19:59 |
| creiht | all that to say, our server stuff may/may not be as useful for say nova | 19:59 |
| creiht | hehe | 19:59 |
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| antonym | i noticed that plugins was missing from the nova bexar release, which includes some of the xenserver plugins | 20:14 |
| ttx | so I suspect they never were in any milestone tarballs | 20:14 |
| antonym | any reason it might have not made the release? | 20:14 |
| antonym | wonder if anything else might have been left out too | 20:14 |
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| ttx | hrm, thats typically why we release milestone tarballs, to catch those type of problemes earlier. | 20:16 |
| ttx | My suggestion would be to release an additional "plugins" tarball on the same page, if that's the only thing missing | 20:16 |
| ttx | dendrobates, soren: could you look into that ? | 20:17 |
| soren | We build tarballs for every single commit for this very reason: So that people can check stuff like this before release. | 20:17 |
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| openstackhudson | Tarmac: Changes the behavior of run_test.sh so that pep8 is only run in the default case (when running all tests). It will no longer run when individual test cases are being given as in: | 20:32 |
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| dubsquared | anyone have a ref to doc, or know, what the balancing algorithm is for nova-compute? example: when you have a 5 node cluster and start spinning up instances…why sometimes do they first 5 go on node1, and then 2 on node 2, and then 1 on node 3 | 20:40 |
| pvo | I think the default scheduler just sprays them. | 20:41 |
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| berendt | i'm preparing an entry to openstack in the germany wikipedia. is the project logo somewhere available (under a free license)..? | 20:42 |
| dubsquared | is there a way to manipulate the scheduler to fire up an instance on a selected node | 20:42 |
| notmyname | berendt: annegentle is probably someone to talk to | 20:43 |
| berendt | notmyname: i'll contact her.. thanks | 20:43 |
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| creiht | The english wikipedia article could use some love | 20:45 |
| creiht | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack | 20:45 |
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| dendrobates | soren: well it looks like we missed it | 20:48 |
| creiht | annegentle: I'm not sure who set it up, but we probably should get swift.openstack.org/1.2 set up (and add a link to the top of the docs to link to it) | 20:48 |
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| berendt | creiht: i'll take a look on the english wikipedia article next week.. busy for the rest of this week.. | 21:00 |
| berendt | but i added the bexar release there today ;) | 21:00 |
| jaypipes | creiht: screw it. I give up trying to understand paste.script's shitty docs and/or trying to figure out the wasteland of crap development in spawing's github issues... I'll prolly just copy swift's swift-init. | 21:01 |
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| diegoparrilla | I have a question about nova-api.conf: nova-api still uses the nova.conf configuration file with gflags? | 21:13 |
| berendt | why is the development documentation for nova not available at http://docs.openstack.org ? | 21:21 |
| diegoparrilla | berendt: I can see it now | 21:26 |
| diegoparrilla | anybody knows if nova-api still uses the old nova.conf configuration file? | 21:28 |
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| soren | diegoparrilla: It goes. | 21:37 |
| soren | er.. | 21:37 |
| soren | diegoparrilla: It does. | 21:37 |
| soren | dendrobates: Sorry, missed what? | 21:38 |
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| diegoparrilla | soren: for some weird reason it does not read the sql_connection parameter. It has the default parameter | 21:39 |
| diegoparrilla | soren: and I cannot find where it reads the nova.conf (well... may be I cannot find it...) | 21:39 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: default is /etc/nova/nova.conf | 21:40 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: if you have the packages install | 21:40 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: otherwise i think it looks in the bin directory | 21:40 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: because that is local to the script being run | 21:40 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: I'm with vishy's script and I have the nova.conf in three difrerent places: /etc/nova, $NOVA_DIR/etc and $NOVA_DIR/bin | 21:41 |
| diegoparrilla | ls | 21:41 |
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| annegentle | berendt: developer documentation is specific to each project, and I plan to point to it from the docs.openstack landing page soon. | 21:42 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: change them all and see which gets loaded? | 21:42 |
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| berendt | annegentle: ok | 21:42 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: with vishy's script i think it reads the one in bin | 21:43 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: no one of them... that's why I'm asking ;-) | 21:43 |
| annegentle | berendt: docs.openstack is more for install/config/deploy | 21:43 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: vishy's script reads from bin, correct. And nova-api did that way in Austin. But it's failing in Bexar | 21:43 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: that seems unlikely to me, so i'm not sure where to start | 21:44 |
| annegentle | berendt: and your question about the balancing algorithm is a good one, I'll investigate. | 21:44 |
| berendt | annegentle: i thought the docu was there a few days ago.. but maybe it's too late here... ;) | 21:44 |
| annegentle | berendt: ah, sorry, that was dubsquared :) I will find out about the logo - sorry for my confusion :) | 21:44 |
| diegoparrilla | soren: I have checked the code of nova-compute and nova-manage and it seems they load the config file with 'utils.default_flagfile()', but nova-api does not have this code | 21:45 |
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| dubsquared | annegentle: there has to be a method to the madness, just trying to figure it out :D | 21:47 |
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| joe123 | Hi all, is it possible to make a backup of a custom instance ? | 21:53 |
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| termie | diegoparrilla: for the record you can just pass --sql_connection | 21:54 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: I will give it a try... | 21:56 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: it worked! it seems the nova.conf is not being loaded. I have ran script to find the code that parses the gflags file and I cannot find it in nova-api | 22:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #712782 in glance "getting error "No JSON object could be decoded" while trying to put a new images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712782 | 22:11 |
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| termie | diegoparrilla: the config file is just a flagfile, it provides values but you can overwrite any from the command line | 22:18 |
| termie | anybody want to do a 2 line code review? https://code.launchpad.net/~termie/nova/test_logging/+merge/47964 | 22:18 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: do you remember how to pass the path of the config file instead of a single parameter? | 22:20 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: --flagfile=/path/to/flagfile | 22:21 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: thanx! let's try it! | 22:22 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: it worked! passing directly the nova.conf file it parse the arguments correctly | 22:26 |
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| diegoparrilla | termie: last question. Do you know how to print the path of the existing nova.conf file? | 22:27 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: I would like to know where the nova-api is going to look for the file | 22:27 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: well, if it has no 'defaultflagfile' call it isn't looking anywhere | 22:28 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: using a file by default is just a hack on top of gflags | 22:28 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: ok, does it make sense if I submit a this issue as a bug? | 22:28 |
| termie | diegoparrilla: you can say that nova-api doesn't use defaultflagfile, yeah | 22:28 |
| diegoparrilla | termie: ok, I wil do it! | 22:29 |
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| jtran | hey all. did OCCI make it into the Bexar release? (http://occi-wg.org/2010/12/14/occi-in-openstack/) | 22:29 |
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| annegentle | jtran: no, but here is the blueprint that apparently has had some work done on it: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bexar-open-cloud-compute-interface | 22:38 |
| annegentle | jtran: the release notes tell you what is in Bexar, if you're interested in other features - http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Bexar | 22:39 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #712799 in nova "nova-api doesn't use 'utils.default_flagfile()'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712799 | 22:42 |
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| vvuksan | i'm unclear on how do you run multiple compute nodes | 22:43 |
| vvuksan | how is it supposed to work ? | 22:44 |
| vvuksan | i have a setup with one node that does everything that works | 22:44 |
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| vvuksan | i added another node, launched nova-compute with the exact settings as on node1 | 22:44 |
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| vvuksan | then I shut down nova-compute on node1 | 22:45 |
| vvuksan | however scheduler still seems to send the job to node1 | 22:45 |
| dubsquared | vvuksan: is node1 the server with all the other nova components? | 22:45 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: correct | 22:45 |
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| jtran | annegentle: any docs on the REST api for that openstack api? | 22:46 |
| jtran | rest interface i mean | 22:46 |
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| dubsquared | vvuksan: when you say the 'exact same settings'…did you setup the second server the same as the first one? | 22:46 |
| pvo | jtran: it is similar to the Rackspace 1.0 api | 22:46 |
| * pvo looking for docs | 22:46 | |
| jtran | understood. thx | 22:46 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: I tried :-). | 22:46 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: nova-compute.conf settings are the same on both hosts | 22:47 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: and both compute servers are UP | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | hrm…nova-compute.conf? | 22:47 |
| dubsquared | there should only be nova.conf, and nova-api.conf | 22:47 |
| vvuksan | yes | 22:47 |
| vvuksan | k i'll copy just the nova.conf | 22:48 |
| dubsquared | are you using a guide? it sounds as it might be outdated | 22:48 |
| vvuksan | yeah | 22:48 |
| dubsquared | in November/Dec last year, there was a change so all the nova conf's were rolled into one config file (nova.conf) | 22:49 |
| pvo | jtran: I would have expected something here http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-compute/admin/content/ | 22:49 |
| dubsquared | then mid Jan 2011, there was the reintroduction of nova-api | 22:49 |
| pvo | annegentle may know where the docs are | 22:49 |
| jtran | pvo: thx | 22:49 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: I'll reread | 22:49 |
| dubsquared | to make it easier to play with multiple APIs in the future | 22:49 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: same thing | 22:50 |
| dubsquared | are you running source, or installing from ppa packages? | 22:50 |
| vvuksan | bexar | 22:50 |
| vvuksan | then python setup.py install | 22:51 |
| dubsquared | ok, so you have all the services running in screen sessions, etc | 22:51 |
| vvuksan | yes | 22:51 |
| vvuksan | i killed nova-compute on node1 | 22:52 |
| vvuksan | node1 has all the services | 22:52 |
| vvuksan | on node2 I now have nova-compute only | 22:52 |
| vvuksan | i do run-instance | 22:52 |
| vvuksan | scheduler casts to node1 | 22:52 |
| vvuksan | if I start up nova-compute on node1 it will start the VM | 22:53 |
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| vvuksan | if I look with nova-manage service list | 23:02 |
| vvuksan | it doesn't show me the new instance | 23:02 |
| vvuksan | the new compute node | 23:02 |
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| dubsquared | vvuksan: im going to send you a link in a sec | 23:07 |
| vvuksan | k | 23:07 |
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| diegoparrilla | good night from europe... | 23:16 |
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| vvuksan | dubsquared: sent it? | 23:20 |
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| dubsquared | vvuksan: http://www.dubsquared.com/?p=43 | 23:22 |
| dubsquared | that's using FlatManger, with the assumption you have static IPs | 23:22 |
| dubsquared | you can kind of work around that and integrate the other network mangers | 23:22 |
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| dubsquared | but that is using packages, rather than source code. just swap out the package install, and keep starting the services in screen sessions, etc | 23:23 |
| dubsquared | same principles apply | 23:23 |
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| vvuksan | k | 23:27 |
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| vvuksan | dubsquared: I pretty much did that | 23:28 |
| dubsquared | on your controller | 23:29 |
| vvuksan | i basically followed the http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaInstall/CentOSNotes | 23:29 |
| dubsquared | hop into mysql, and run 'select * from services'; | 23:29 |
| dubsquared | curious to see if nova-compute is checking in | 23:29 |
| vvuksan | it is | 23:30 |
| annegentle | jtran: the API docs were problematic for this release - for the basics, you can read through http://docs.rackspacecloud.com/servers/api/cs-devguide-latest.pdf, but my next task is to test that doc for OpenStack. | 23:30 |
| vvuksan | dubsquared: it's showing in services table | 23:30 |
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| vvuksan | but not when I do nova-manage service list | 23:30 |
| dubsquared | okay, and you got VMs running on node1 were running | 23:30 |
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| vvuksan | yes | 23:30 |
| vvuksan | i just wanted to expand to multiple nodes | 23:31 |
| dubsquared | how many VMs did you spin up? | 23:31 |
| vvuksan | 30-40 | 23:31 |
| vvuksan | not at the same time | 23:31 |
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| dubsquared | and none of them went to node2? | 23:31 |
| vvuksan | yeah | 23:32 |
| vvuksan | sorry | 23:32 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #712814 in nova "Some log levels not correctly setup from flags (e.g. nova.utils)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/712814 | 23:32 |
| vvuksan | be back in a few | 23:32 |
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| dubsquared | im looking at my centos servers now... | 23:32 |
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| vvuksan | dubsquared: I'm interested in the mechanics of the process. There doesn't seem to be a "heartbeat" | 23:51 |
| vvuksan | ie. if nova-compute goes down on a node a job will still be dispatched to it | 23:51 |
| vvuksan | doesn't seem right | 23:51 |
| dubsquared | i haven't messed with that too much, id have to shut down some nodes and see what happens | 23:54 |
| dubsquared | that does seem odd, though | 23:54 |
| dubsquared | ill bbiab, gotta get food... | 23:54 |
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