Friday, 2011-03-18

pvoLantizia: cloudstack and openstack are 2 different projects00:01
Lantiziaboth with a lot of glitzy words and little substance looking at the web sites00:01
blamarLantizia: suggestions?00:02
Lantiziathat's what I'm reading00:02
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Lantiziai hate the word cloud, it's thrown about promiscuously always with a different meaning00:05
Lantiziaa page demonstrating useful scenarios and case studies without all the marketting bs would be handy00:05
Lantiziaat the moment I've no idea why I'd want this over just libvirt00:05
MotoMilindLantizia: Dashboard, Role based access control, potential to manage private, public and hybrid clouds, these may be some of the reasons to check out OpenStack00:07
alekibangoLantizia: if you have less than 5 servers, libvirt might just work00:08
LantiziaMotoMilind, so basically similar to Proxmox but not just KVM/OpenVZ00:08
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Lantiziaand with management of actual customers not just the machines themselves00:08
MotoMilindUnfortunately, I haven't looked at Proxmax.  Thanks for the tip, I will check them out.00:09
MotoMilindMy driver was Python, based on Euca code, supported by Rackspace (and 50+ vendors)00:10
Lantiziait's Proxmox VE you want, not the Mail Gateway00:10
MotoMilindAah, ok00:10
MotoMilindoh nice00:10
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MotoMilindTime to read :)00:11
RobertLaptopProxmox is very VSpear like00:11
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alekibangofor me : 1) open (totally) 2) people (really smart) 3) companies (really great) 4) scaleable, adaptable00:11
uvirtbotNew bug: #737240 in nova "sysadmin smoketests failing for ipv6" [Undecided,In progress]
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MotoMilindAlright guys, see you tomorrow00:12
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alekibangoProxmox makes people think that producing CO2 is bad...00:17
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alekibangothe software looks easier to manage, but prolly not scalable as much as nova is00:18
Lantiziaalekibango, not until v2.0 that is... see the roadmap00:19
RobertLaptopalekibango, Agreed on Proxmox00:20
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Lantiziaso are these CloudStack and OpenStack projects essentially trying to accomplish the same thing?00:22
alekibangoouch they have czech translation... i should work on translating nova lol00:22
alekibangoLantizia: no00:22
Lantiziaand are slowly giving up CloudStack for OpenStack?00:22
Lantiziaok so does CloudStack use OpenStack which uses libvirt... lol00:22
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Lantiziait's just abstraction on top of abstraction on top of abstraction00:23
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alekibangoLantizia:  openstack is not just product00:23
alekibangonto just way to manage servers00:23
alekibangoit aims to be industry standard00:24
Lantiziain doing... _what_ ?00:24
Lantiziabeing an industry standard?!00:24
alekibangoin doing clouds :)00:24
Lantiziaoh ffs00:24
alekibangoso people can migrate from one cloud to another00:24
justinsbLantizia: Virtualization lets you run multiple virtual machines on one physical machine00:24
alekibangopublic/private clouds00:24
Lantiziathis thing is either so amazingly good it's so hard to describe or it's just fluff00:24
justinsbLantizia: Clouds are about running virtual machines on multiple physical machines00:25
alekibangoLantizia: hehe its hard... really and its changing so fast that if you describe it, it will not be true in a week :)00:25
Lantiziajustinsb, that's one definition yes - and I know that's the one being used in this context00:25
Lantiziabut is that to say a virtual machine runs in a cluster of hypervisors00:25
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Lantiziaor that a virtual machine is partly being ran on one physical machine whilst another part runs elsewhere?00:26
justinsbLantizia: The former.00:26
Lantiziabecause that is true cloud in my mind00:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #737249 in openstack-dashboard "image detail view incorrectly displays option to edit an image" [Critical,In progress]
Lantiziaright so it's not cloud then!00:26
justinsbLantizia: Splitting one machine across multiple physical machines has its own problems00:26
alekibangoLantizia: you can run CPU and disk on different computers00:26
Lantiziait's just bloody managing clusters of hypervisors!00:26
alekibangoor you might run them on one00:26
justinsbLantizia: Which are probably very fundamental00:26
alekibangobut its hard to separate ram and cpu :)00:26
justinsbLantizia: _but_ the idea is that you can also rethink your unit of abstraction00:26
justinsbLantizia: Away from a virtual machine00:27
Lantiziabah! it's just marketting nonsense00:27
Lantiziai hate the word cloud00:27
justinsbLantizia: To thinking in terms of clusters of machines working together00:27
alekibangoLantizia: i do not like the word too.. still its better than intelectual property00:27
alekibangocloud is everything which is cloudy to your mind00:27
alekibangowhen you understand the problem, its crystal clear00:27
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Lantiziabecause to get the _real_ definition of cloud (where you no VM runs on any 1 host as it runs on them all, like partition over a raided disk)... you'd have to have the hypervisor to support it00:28
Lantiziaand to my knowledge only EC2 can do that?00:28
bcwaldonthat's not necessarily the definition of cloud00:29
alekibangoLantizia: you can run disk from network (cloud/SAN)  and you can continue teh virtual machine on another server immediatelly when you have problem00:29
Lantiziathat's not a cloud!00:29
justinsbLantizia: Are you trolling us?00:30
alekibangoLantizia: btw swift is another type of cloud service - scalable object storage00:30
Lantiziajustinsb, nah I'm not, just seriously annoyed at the use of the word cloud these days, means something different everytime I read it00:30
justinsbLantizia: Cloud doesn't mean running one machine over multiple physical machines at the same time00:30
alekibangoLantizia: if you want solid, reliable cloud service, try
justinsbLantizia: Nobody can do that00:30
justinsbLantizia: What we can do is move one machine across a cluster of machines00:31
justinsbLantizia: e.g. if one fails00:31
Lantiziaessentially here the word cloud is being used to mean... virtualisation clusters that support many hypervisors... oh and storage can be elsewhere :P  ...  just like vSphere and Proxmox can already do00:31
alekibangoLantizia: forget cloud. openstack has object storage and compute   part...00:31
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alekibangothe word cloud essentially has no meaning00:32
alekibangoits just like spam00:32
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Lantiziayup I agree00:32
alekibangoits just something you do not understand00:32
alekibango  is very cool00:32
bcwaldonhere, I have the perfect link00:32
Lantiziabcwaldon, already read it - made me vomit00:33
bcwaldonLantizia: you did not00:33
alekibangothere are no clouds on the page00:33
Lantiziasorry I read this one...
Lantiziathe first line made me vomit00:33
alekibangoLantizia: i can feel your pain00:34
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justinsbLantizia: A lot of people are "cloud washing"... calling anything on the Internet "Cloud-X"00:34
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justinsbLantizia: because it attracts press00:35
markwashbcwaldon: your link is the best explanation I've seen so far00:35
alekibangoreading nist makes me sometimes sick too00:35
Lantiziamarkwash, lol :P00:35
justinsbLantizia: However, the original meaning of cloud is basically what OpenStack is building00:35
Lantiziawhich is basically just virtualisation clusters00:35
Lantiziawhich already had a perfectly good name00:35
justinsbLantizia: I suggest you read "The Big Switch" if you want to understand the deeper implications00:35
bcwaldonget incepted00:35
alekibangothe pdf document linked on the page you gave Lantizia  is not that bad00:36
justinsbLantizia: True, it's not a million miles away from virtualization clusters00:36
alekibangoCloud computing is a model for enabling convenient, on-demand network access to a shared pool of configurable computing resources (e.g., networks, servers, storage, applications, and services) that can be rapidly provisioned and released with minimal management effort or service provider interaction.00:36
alekibangofunny def, but not that evil00:36
Lantizia"Note 1: Cloud computing is still an evolving paradigm. "00:37
Lantiziano shit lol00:37
alekibangoLantizia: so just read the code... or :)00:38
Lantiziawere launching this line bonding service soon where you can use any ISP... and bond them over this vpn-like technology... but it's proper bonding... gonna stick the customers firewall/router as a VM on the other side of the connection at the datacentre plus all their desktops/servers etc... a neat idea00:39
Lantiziauntil i did something stupid in trying to explain the concept to my boss00:39
Lantiziai said... basically kinda like... cloud broadband00:39
Lantiziaoh ffs, what did he do? register the domain before anyone else00:39
alekibangoi today heard 'cloud banking'00:39
Lantiziaeven I have contributed to the mess00:39
alekibangonow i imagine river banks full of clouds00:40
bcwaldonclouds everywhere00:40
justinsbLantizia: I think that's why we're called "OpenStack" and not "OpenCloud"00:40
Lantiziasomeone will make SkyNet next to manage the clouds :P00:40
Lantiziasince clouds are in the sky :P00:40
alekibangoskynet should be rady soon00:40
alekibangoshould be connected to internet soon00:41
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alekibangosingularity is near!00:41
Lantiziajudgement day :)00:41
alekibangoits closer and closer, every minute its 60 seconds closer!00:42
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Lantiziaok here is what my boss really wants to know... can we/is it possible to manage multiple ESXi boxes in a cluster without using stupid fucking vSphere Centre which needs windows00:43
Lantiziahe was reading the register and noticed this CloudStack has an agent that goes on the hypervisor00:43
Lantiziawhich then lead me to you thinking "damn this sounds just like libvirt lol"00:43
alekibango ESXi? imho not yet00:44
alekibangoin openstack00:44
Lantiziai'm still not entirely clear on what the differences of OpenStack vs CloudStack is00:44
Lantiziaalekibango, oh I've seen - not until possibly the next version... but CloudStack (however that differs) claims it can now00:44
alekibangothats cloud.com00:45
Lantiziayup which makes reference to openstack00:45
justinsbLantizia: Sounds like they're "OpenStack" washing00:45
RobertLaptopESXi control without vSphere is really hard to do and almost impossible to get "right"00:46
justinsbLantizia: Just like "Cloud" washing00:46
justinsbLantizia: When something is good, everyone tries to associate themselves with it00:46
Lantiziajustinsb, yeah - that gets damned annoying00:46
alekibangoi love tomatoes!00:46
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Lantizia-e :S00:47
alekibangodont take it all so seriously.     almost everythink you know is00:47
justinsbLantizia: I think that have announced that they intend to work with Openstack in the future00:47
alekibangoemh ... wrong?00:47
Lantiziaso they have like totally nothing to do with each other?00:47
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alekibangoshould say 'prepared for your mind by some industry'00:47
winston-dhi, guys.  Is there any CloudFiles PHP bindings example available ?00:47
justinsbLantizia: I don't know how they intend to do that.  You could ask them!00:47
alekibangoLantizia:  has its own solutions...  they did have something even before openstack00:48
Lantiziajustinsb, well their cloudstack is a free download for ubuntu too.. but from what I can see (tell me if you think differently) they do the same thing as openstack :S00:48
justinsbLantizia: Thanks, I'll stick to OpenStack00:48
Lantiziaoh I haven't tried either lol - i'm not taking sides00:49
alekibangojustinsb: let him check it all out before he will understand waht N.O.V.A. really means00:49
Lantiziajust trying to understand the relationship (if any) or if they serve the same purpose00:49
justinsbLantizia: OpenStack is open.  I think that's the big differentiator.00:49
alekibangoLantizia: they prolly want to be compatible with openstack in longer run somehow00:50
justinsbLantizia: Open source, open development model, open everything00:50
justinsbLantizia: Not "open core" or another commercial model00:50
Lantiziahaven't seen any tale tell signs of opencore00:51
Lantiziaa shitty tactic i agree if it is00:51
RobertLaptopGetting out from under ESXi is really hard.00:51
Lantiziawere not really under it yet... it's not like we have to use it00:52
justinsbLantizia: I think that OpenStack and CloudStack both serve the same purpose00:52
LantiziaI personally use KVM under proxmox00:52
justinsbLantizia: In the same sense that Linux and Windows do00:52
RobertLaptopYou either have to pay lots of $ or you have to use tricks to work around the limits VMware has put in to try and force people to pay the $00:52
justinsbLantizia: To be fair to CloudStack, their product is a lot prettier at the moment - a bit like Windows00:53
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Lantiziajustinsb, does openstack offer commercial support?00:53
alekibangostill, openstack is one of largests and most active open projects00:54
justinsbLantizia: Well, OpenStack itself won't.  But companies can00:54
alekibangoLantizia: now yes, rackspace does00:54
justinsbLantizia: OpenStack = the Linux project00:54
alekibangoi do too00:54
alekibangoLinux of the cloud00:54
justinsbLantizia: Other companies can be the "RedHat" of Openstack00:54
alekibangoor apache of the cloud00:54
Lantiziaredhat care about openstack ? thought they had their own thing based on libvirt?00:54
RobertLaptopovirt is dead.00:55
Lantiziaalekibango, stop washing :P00:55
justinsbLantizia: You'll have to ask them00:55
alekibangoLantizia: they do have theirs own solution00:55
Lantiziacool ok00:55
alekibangothey have even nice spice protocol00:55
alekibangowhich is open now00:55
justinsbalekibango: What is redhat's cloud product?00:56
LantiziaoVirt I think00:56
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alekibangonot 100% sure00:57
dprincejustinsb: Thanks for knocking out the metadata delete ticket.00:58
alekibangothey have also some included  provisioning systems00:58
RobertLaptopLantizia, oVirt is pretty much dead.
RobertLaptopRedhat bought some tech and they are calling it rhev00:59
justinsbdprince: No worries.  I'm a little concerned that I wasn't able to write a unit test for it00:59
justinsbdprince: Did it "work for you"?00:59
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dprincejustinsb: just saw your fix. Will try it out in a minute.00:59
alekibangobtw really nice example of cloud computing is sheepdog screensaver... and cool one...00:59
justinsbdprince: Thanks!  How did you find the bug, by the way00:59
dprincejustinsb: Unit tests through the whole stack (accross a cast) are hard to do.00:59
justinsbdprince: I was wondering if I could try to test it however you found it01:00
justinsbdprince: Or were you poking around in the DB ?01:00
dprincejustinsb: send me your ssh key? I'm using Cloud Servers to test things functionally.01:02
dprincejustinsb: dan.prince@rackspace.com01:02
alekibangodprince: you are doing fuctional tests of nova?01:03
markwashjustinsb: don't fall for dan's 'send me your ssh private key' tricks01:03
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justinsbmarkwash: I'll watch out for his tricks :-)01:04
justinsbdprince: Key on its way, thanks!01:04
dprincealekibango: I'm mostly working on API feature at the moment. I do functionally test things using this before I merge prop however:01:04
dprinceVery similar setup to Vish's Vagrant setups. Just uses cloud servers instead.01:05
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alekibangodprince: i am using fai-project  to install openstack on real hardware... which might be interesting for you01:06
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dprincealekibango: Sure. I'll check it out.01:06
alekibangoit is possible to install nova on debian stable/sid/testing  and few ubuntu distros too -- and run tests01:07
alekibangoif you will have some real servers, i can help you to set it up01:07
alekibangoi will release my own config when i will be ok with it01:07
alekibangostill not good enough01:07
alekibangolast night i tried i have seen such weird errors01:07
alekibangomysql complaining about key lenght or something like that01:08
* alekibango is going to check todays version01:08
alekibangodprince: installing nova is pretty complex task01:08
dprincealekibango: I use Chef. ;)01:09
alekibangohaving fai setup it and doing tests would give:01:09
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alekibangopossible automated tests on different oses on real hw01:09
alekibangopublic configuration sets -- as examples for nova deployment01:09
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alekibangowhen all runs well, its really fast, 4-10 minutes for installing all cloud01:10
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alekibangowe really need good functional tests of nova to make sure it is stable01:13
alekibangounit testing is not enough01:13
justinsbalekibango: +101:16
justinsbalekibango: I think there are a number of people working on it01:17
justinsbalekibango: Like dprince, it seems!01:17
LantiziaSince you've all been a lovely lot - what are peoples thoughts on AoE... dead duck or still worth exploring?01:18
dprincejustinsb: see my email01:19
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alekibangoLantizia: i would rather use sheepdog01:56
alekibangobut no storage solution is 100%... still needs to improve01:56
Lantiziaalekibango, can sheepdog be uses for storage area networks as well as rounding up sheep?01:57
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alekibangokind of.  see
alekibangoluckily they are again online01:59
alekibangoits block level storage abstraction02:00
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HugoKuo_I try to deploy nova in a single machine03:32
HugoKuo_two question....03:32
HugoKuo_what if I want my instance's network same with the host , can I ony use one NIC ?03:33
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rpeddeIt's easiest probably to create a bridge with your eth0, assign your host ip to the bridge, and specify that bridge as the bridge to add your veth devices to03:36
rpeddeBut you could as easily use a second ethernet card, make a bridge with that ethernet device in it, and use *that* bridge for your guest machines03:38
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HugoKuo_I success to use second ethernet device accomplish my goal...03:48
rpeddegood deal03:48
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HugoKuo_thanks rpedde , I'll try first way to use one NIC03:53
rpeddeJust double-check your configs before you restart networking if you don't have physical access to the machine.  I've messed up configs turning an eth into a bridge and lost connectivity with the machine.  Not bad if you are right next to the machine, but really painful when you are running remote over ssh.  :)03:55
HugoKuo_haha , I know :>04:01
HugoKuo_well , just finish the testing04:07
HugoKuo_but there's some issue04:07
rpeddewhat's the issue?04:08
HugoKuo_instance can not run up , due to metadata get fail04:08
HugoKuo_let me draw a diagram first~04:09
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HugoKuo_I don't know why that my instance can not get matadata from api server04:28
rpeddewhat image are you using?04:28
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HugoKuo_oh sorry , It's not network unreachable ,  the response is url error04:29
HugoKuo_I try two images04:29
HugoKuo_UEC lucid 3204:30
HugoKuo_both tty image04:30
HugoKuo_flatDHCP will start bridge br100 with eth0  , and assign the IP address which is writen in mysql database .04:32
HugoKuo_automatically ~!04:32
HugoKuo_so confusing ....04:33
rpeddeYes... okay04:33
HugoKuo_waiting for metadata service at
HugoKuo_  02:49:17 [ 1/100]: url error [timed out]04:33
HugoKuo_how do you think about this error , cause by nova-network or nova-api ??04:34
rpeddeso I'm not a super nova brainiac, but this is how I understand it.  UEC images want to get provisioning metadata from the UEC metadata server04:34
rpeddenova api will emulate that, but you have to make traffic bound to go to the nova api host04:35
rpeddeWhen using flat/dhcp, that's easy... you are dnsmasqing from the host and routing through it, so you can use iptables to redirect traffic from the guest to the nova api04:36
rpeddelike so: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination $NOVA_API_IP:877304:36
rpeddeBut with regular flat, you aren't forcing that traffic through the compute node, so it doesn't get a chance to redirect that traffic to the metadata server04:37
HugoKuo_this rule is already exist , that's  writen by linux_net.py04:37
HugoKuo_btw , I use FlatDHCP mode04:37
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rpeddeRight, but if you are just flat with no dhcp, then you aren't routing through the compute node, you are bridging04:38
rpeddeoh.  meh.04:38
rpeddeshould go then, afaik.  :/04:38
HugoKuo_see ya04:38
rpeddesorry.  during the day here GMT -6 there are way smarter people here than me04:39
rpeddeMight have more luck dropping by then04:39
HugoKuo_where r u ?04:39
HugoKuo_I'm in TW....  nice to meet you!04:39
HugoKuo_oh TW= Taiwan :>04:40
rpeddeGood to meet you!  Do try later though, I know the folks here can help04:40
rpeddeSorry so useless.  heh.04:40
HugoKuo_dude, don't say so .....04:41
HugoKuo_I'm sorry about my poor english XD04:41
rpeddeHA!  It's better than a lot of the texans I work with!04:42
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #662: SUCCESS in 2 min 3 sec:
openstackjenkinsTarmac: Make the rpc cast/call debug calls show what topic they are sending to.  This aides in debuugging.04:53
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rpeddeHrm.  I don't really have an answer.  The obvious things to check would be to check brctl br100 and make sure the vm interface joined the bridge and that eth0 is a part of it.  And check to make sure that dnsmasq is running.  It should show the config file in the command line... you can check that and make sure it's handing out a correct ip address via dhcp.  Beyond that, I don't have any good answers.04:57
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #663: SUCCESS in 2 min 6 sec:
openstackjenkinsTarmac: When changing the project manager, if the new manager is not yet a project member, be sure to make them be a project member.05:08
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #664: SUCCESS in 2 min 8 sec:
openstackjenkinsTarmac: Make "ApiError" the default error code for ApiError instances, rather than "Unknown."05:15
openstackjenkinsNote Dashoard's error handling code:05:15
openstackjenkinsexcept boto.exception.BotoServerError, e:05:15
openstackjenkinsif e.status == 400 and e.error_code == 'ApiError':05:15
openstackjenkinsraise NovaApiError(e)05:15
openstackjenkinselif e.status == 401:05:15
openstackjenkinsraise NovaUnauthorizedError()05:15
openstackjenkinselif e.status == 503:05:15
openstackjenkinsraise NovaUnavailableError(e)05:15
openstackjenkinsraise NovaServerError(e)05:15
openstackjenkinsSo an error_code of 'Unknown' will raise an ugly exception.05:15
openstackjenkinsThis change also makes the euca errors a bit prettier:05:15
openstackjenkins> euca-attach-volume -i i-1 vol-2 -d /dev/vdb05:15
openstackjenkins> ApiError: ApiError: Volume status must be available05:15
openstackjenkinsRather than:05:15
openstackjenkins> euca-attach-volume -i i-1 vol-2 -d /dev/vdb05:15
openstackjenkins> Unknown: Unknown: Volume status must be available05:15
openstackjenkinsThough the reiteration of the error code is still a bit ugly.05:15
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koolhead17hi all05:17
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HugoKuo_fine ,05:27
HugoKuo_success to use one NIC05:27
HugoKuo_but there's something wired @@05:28
HugoKuo_whatever , instnace is run well05:28
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HugoKuo_I test with all kinds of image05:30
HugoKuo_include UEC and tty05:30
HugoKuo_eventhough that tty can not get metadata , but it still working fine.....05:31
HugoKuo_funny XD05:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #737345 in nova "API returns UnknownError when executing euca-add-keypair in redhat6" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #737346 in nova "RunInstance failed due to network error  in redhat6" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #737360 in openstack-dashboard "project managers should be able to modify image attributes of an image belonging to the project" [High,Confirmed]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #737368 in nova "s3 object store not using proper names for image attributes" [Medium,In progress]
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nerensi'm trying to start new instances and it hangs at scheduling, any ideas? is this a network issue?08:48
nerensMar 18 10:44:01 hera dhclient: No DHCPOFFERS received.08:48
nerensMar 18 10:44:01 hera dhclient: No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.08:48
sorenIf it's stuck in scheduling, I doubt it's a network thing.08:50
sorenTry looking at your nova-scheduler.log08:50
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nerensah.. you're right: ERROR nova.rpc [-] Failed to fetch message from queue08:50
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sorenNever seen that before09:07
nerensI'm seeing similar errors as this post:
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 718869 in nova "nova-compute: can't spawn new instances after restarting RabbitMQ" [High,Confirmed]09:11
nerenswas also seeing the error : CONNECTION_FORCED - broker forced connection closure with reason 'shutdown'09:13
nerensso does that mean I shouldn't restart rabbitmq? Or if I do do I need to restart everything else?09:13
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nerensdoes rabbit have a config file? /etc/rabbitmq is empty09:16
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perra_I must admit I haven't got much experience working with ebtables. Can I find somewhere through documentation what rules are configured (their consequence) in the nat table (ebtables) of the  host for each instance?09:23
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ggyHi I was able to get an instance running but I am not able to ssh or ping on to it. The output of euca-get-console output is at
alekibangonerens: with empty rabbitmq, there is still default config... having guest user...  and nova is by default configured  to use that.09:38
alekibangoggy: did you use  euca-authorize  ?09:39
alekibangogoogle openstack ssh euca-authorize if you didnt09:40
ggyalekibango: yeah! had used the multinode install script. So it was done automatically. When I tried to do it again manually, I got the message that the rule already exists09:41
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ggyI have been stuck with this problem for almost 3-4 days now! Unable to ping or ssh onto an instance09:50
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sorenWhat's the image that you're using?10:01
nerensalekibango: thx10:03
sorenggy: What10:03
sorenggy: What's the image you're trying to run?10:03
ggy+soren: I was runnign the image from . I had also tried ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1.tar.gz10:04
sorenggy: What does euca-describe-instances say about it?10:05
ggyit shows the status as running10:05
sorenI would check nova-compute.log to see if it says anything interesting.10:06
ggy+soren: there were no errors10:07
ggy+soren: I have pasted the content from nova-compute.log
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sorenggy: That looks fine. Hmm.10:29
sorenggy: Oh, you're using FlatManager.10:29
sorenggy: That doesn10:29
sorent work with ttylinux.10:29
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ggy+soren: but it should work with the maveric release right?10:30
sorenI think.10:30
ved_Hi, is there a way I can map my NFS volume (on NetApp storage for eg) for object storage ?10:30
sorenI don't really use the FlatManager.10:30
ggyActually I used the install script and so the default was FlatManager. Which one are you using?. Actually I had seen a couple of other guys with the same problem too10:32
sorenggy: I use VlanManager.10:34
sorenggy: It shouldn't be breaking this this badly for you, though.10:34
sorenggy: How are you uploading your images to Nova?10:34
sorenttx: netadmin_smoketests and sysadmin_smoketests now work beautifully.10:35
ggy+soren: I used uec-publish-image10:35
sorenOk, that's what I do, too.10:35
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HugoKuo_Just finish 1 front end + 1 compute node XD10:47
HugoKuo_looking good10:47
HugoKuo_but I got a question .........I install nova-compute in front too10:48
HugoKuo_and my front end has only 2 core + 2G ram  and compute node has 4cores with 4GB ram10:48
HugoKuo_how come that I can run up 6 instance on frontend , but only 4 instance on compute node!!10:49
HugoKuo_it's really wired ...10:49
sorenThe current schedulers are really primitive.10:50
perra_where should I look if I want to do some alteration how the dnsmasq and nova-dhcp are handing out IP-addresses. What component of nova is responsible of keeping the database consistent reflecting what addresses has been handed out within a project ?10:50
HugoKuo_would you want this ?10:51
HugoKuo_perra_ :10:51
sorenperra_: What are you wanting to do?10:52
perra_that only provides information about what has been handed out by the dhcp so far, right? Editing that conf-file won't result in any changes, or am I wrong?10:52
sorenAny changes will likely be overwritten by nova quite soon. What are you trying to do?10:53
perra_soren: I want to bypass the euca2ool, letting a user choose whatever IP-address available in the project address space.10:54
sorenOh, that again.10:54
perra_haha :)10:54
perra_more people been asking?10:54
sorenWhy do you want to do this?10:54
HugoKuo_sound interesting10:55
sorenIt sounds horribly broken t ome.10:55
sorenBut go on. Convince me otherwise :)10:55
sorenperra_: What is the use case?10:58
perra_I'm on a project which would benefit multiple networks within a cloud and also connecting them together using a VM as a router. Basically building networks within the cloud. Are multiple networks among the objectives of OpenStack in the nearby future? There are some old server implementations which requires specific IP-addresses which we would like to place in the cloud aswell. Therefore we would like to be able to set IP addresses, specificly.10:58
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perra_use case: short term -> networks within a cloud environment, where users can manipulate networks settings as they like within a project. long term -> distributed clouds11:00
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sorenMultiple networks are on the roadmap.11:01
sorenNot for the release in April, but very, very likely later this year.11:01
perra_soren: sound great!11:01
sorenAt that point, you can probably do whatever you want with IP-addresses.11:02
HugoKuo_current max instances number only 10 ?11:02
perra_soren: but you still don't like my horrible idea? :)11:02
sorenHugoKuo_: I forget what the defaults limits are, but you can change them if you want.11:02
sorenperra_: Not one bit, no.11:03
perra_fair enough11:03
sorenperra_: If you need to assign specific ip addresses to something, you're doing it wrong.11:03
sorenperra_: Cloud != virtualisation.11:03
HugoKuo_oh thanks11:04
perra_or, they did something wrong in the past, which I have to live with :/11:04
sorenWell, it's fine as such. It's just not something that belong in the cloud, then.11:04
HugoKuo_any flag to define the maxmum instances?11:04
sorenThere are plenty of use cases that simply don't belong in the cloud. That's fine.11:05
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HugoKuo_perra_: did you ever try to seperate nova-network component from all-in one box ?11:05
mustfg2hi, i got still an error trying to allocate an address to an instance, can someone help me ?11:06
sorenmustfg2: If you describe the problem, somone might be able to help you.11:06
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perra_HugoKuo_: can you elaborate on that, what do you mean?11:07
HugoKuo_perra_ : I install all components in one machine . and then I add one more compute node  , everything is working fine11:08
HugoKuo_but I think the all-in-one box is too busy11:08
HugoKuo_after that I want to seperate nova-network and nova-scheduler from all-in-one box .....11:09
perra_Hugo_Kuo_: that's my current setup as well11:09
HugoKuo_ok got it ...11:09
HugoKuo_thanks body11:09
mustfg2 heres the problem shown in nova-network.log any ideas ?11:10
mustfg2i have 10 floating addresses in the database, but i cant allocate them...11:10
mustfg2when i try euca-allocate-address the error is: "UnknownError: An unknown error has occurred. Please try your request again."11:11
sorenmustfg2: Look in nova-network.log11:12
mustfg2the link above shows the network log11:12
sorenHugoKuo_: nova-manage project quota 0 instances 100 <---- Will let project 0 run 100 instances.11:13
sorenmustfg2: How did you create your network? (not the floating addressses, the other ones)11:14
CloudChrisHello together, I am trying to bring all components in a nice graphic - I appreciate any feedback:11:14
sorenCloudChris: nova-manage does not speak to the openstack api.11:14
sorenCloudChris: It usually tweaks the database directly.11:15
HugoKuo_soren : thank u so much ~!11:15
mustfg2the script created the network / bridge and nova.conf11:15
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CloudChrissoren: good hint, if that's all i'm happy with it so far ;P11:15
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sorenCloudChris: Hang on, I've only just glanced at it so far.11:16
CloudChrisI will11:16
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sorenCloudChris: Pretty much everything speaks to the database, actually.11:16
mustfg2i running flatdhcp mode11:17
sorenCloudChris: ..and nova-objectstore speaks to the NovaAuth thing you have, too.11:17
mustfg2and the instance gets a private ip11:17
sorenmustfg2: What is "the script"?11:17
sorenmustfg2: Oh, ok.11:17
mustfg2nova-CC-... .sh11:17
mustfg2branch bexar11:17
sorenHugoKuo_: How did you add the floating ips?11:18
sorenmustfg2: How did you add the floating ips?11:18
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mustfg2nova-manage floating add or something like that11:22
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mustfg2the ip´s are shown in the database11:22
mustfg2but i cant allocate them11:22
sorenWhat does euca-describe-addresses say?11:22
HugoKuo_wow , it's so crazy , I change instance limit to 100  , nova runs 10 instance on one nova-compute box , I got 20 instances @_@11:23
mustfg2it shows the addresses11:24
mustfg2 euca-describe-addresses11:24
mustfg2ADDRESS172.25.10.90None (None)11:24
mustfg2 ...11:24
sorenmustfg2: Ok, and what's the exact command you're running (the euca-allocate-addresss one)11:26
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mustfg2euca-allocate-address <instance-id>11:27
sorenmustfg2: That's not how it works, IIRC.11:28
sorenmustfg2: Try just "euca-allocate-address"11:28
mustfg2omg :D11:28
mustfg2euca-allocate-address doesnt work either11:29
soren...and then:11:29
soreneuca-associate-address -i $instance_id $ip11:29
sorenHow does it fail?11:29
mustfg2ok i check11:29
mustfg2option -i not recognized11:31
mustfg2wait i wrote allocate11:33
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HugoKuo_instance ip is assigned by nova-network or nova-compute ?11:41
sorenmustfg2: Sure11:42
HugoKuo_by nova-network why that I have to install dnsmasq on compute node ?11:43
HugoKuo_I really don't understand the reason .11:43
sorenYou don't?11:43
sorenOh, well, yes, you do.11:43
soren...but not because of Nova. Because of libvirt.11:43
openstackHugoKuo_: Error: "!!!!" is not a valid command.11:44
sorenI agree with openstack. "!!!!" is not a valid command.11:44
HugoKuo_I had better learn more basic knowledge about nova :<11:45
HugoKuo_how shame I am :<11:45
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uksysadminAre there any good guides or whitepapers on openstack for using openstack in earnest? what I'm looking for is something on best practices outside of a small set up - for example if I'm to design a hosting environment with redundancy, highlighting SPOFs and what could be done about them etc?11:57
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uksysadmine.g. openstack on X number of servers hosting 1,000 instances - where to put mysql, api - does api become a SPOF? what do people do for HA?12:00
uksysadminany rackspace guys here or astronauts ;-)12:00
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kalonikemustfg2, ur vm's running now?12:16
kalonikewhat is the difference between nova 2011.1 and 2011.1.1? which one should i install?12:18
kalonikei just would like a single machine demo environment12:19
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kalonikeif i install from tar.gz where should i put in the filesystem? is it important where i put??12:45
kalonikeplease, anyone who had a succesful nova install, could u help me a little???12:46
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sorenkalonike: If you can, I highly recommend using Ubuntu packages instead.12:57
kalonikeok, which one? nova-core/release works?12:59
kalonikeor is there any bexar repository?12:59
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kalonikeubuntu packages have 0.9.1 version13:02
kalonikethat is still austen, no?13:02
sorennova-core/release is bexar13:06
sorenOur most recent release is bexar, so that's what's in nova-core/release.13:06
kalonikethanks for ur answer13:07
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kalonikehave u met with this? /usr/bin/nova-manage does not match any options: user project role shell vpn floating network service log db volume13:24
kalonikewhen i try to use nova-manage user admin testuser13:24
kalonikeafter nova-manage db sync13:25
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kalonikewhich was successful first13:25
kalonikebut i cant repeat13:25
kalonikeand no matter what kind of nova-manage command i use, get the same answer13:26
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kalonikei have installed 2011.1 bzr64513:34
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jaypipessirp_, dabo: hope you can assist me. I've asked for your reviews on the VMWare VSphere merge proposal, specifically.13:45
* soren also takes a look13:46
jaypipessoren: ty13:46
soren"62 branches proposed for merging into this one."... It's going to be a busy week.13:47
ttxsoren: only 18 *have to* be reviewed this week13:49
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kalonikehm, i have removed all nova packages, and reinstalled them, and now nova-manage works :)13:50
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sorenttx: What's the best view for finding that out? The releasestatus page?13:52
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ttxsoren: at this point, my email gives the list... Working on my priority generator as we speak.13:53
sorenttx: Cool.13:54
ttxsoren: my evil scoring algorithm currently gives that:
sorenttx: That is way cool!13:57
westmaasttx: yeah, looks pretty good13:57
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ttxi'll probably release the python code before I HTMLize the output. I suck so much at that that it could take time13:58
sorenCool beans13:59
jaypipeswow, someone's actually trying to use the Hyper-V virt layer... this should be interesting.14:00
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sorenThis is starting to come together quite nicely:14:04
pvolooks good soren14:07
sorenhggdh: You'll probably appreciate it as well.. ^14:07
* soren likes the green14:07
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kbringardhey guys, quick ?14:08
sorenhggdh: nova-install runs whenever there's a new package in the ppa.14:08
westmaassoren: nice14:08
sorenhggdh: ...and that happens automatically once there's a commit on trunk.14:08
kbringardis there a reason 120s was chosen as the default lease time in the --dhcp-range flag14:09
kbringardin linux_net.py14:09
hggdhsoren: this is *very* cool14:09
sorenkbringard: Someone rolled a 120 sided die.14:09
kbringardsoren: lol14:09
kbringardI thought I was awesome because I roll 20s14:09
kbringardthe reason I ask is because, if I understand dnsmasq correctly, once the lease expires, it'll no longer return DNS info14:10
kbringardbut, since we're essentially using static addressing (since nova-network manages it)14:10
kbringardchanging it to an infinite lease time (in theory) shouldn't hurt anything, and would cause DNS lookups to work for as long as the VM is alive14:11
kbringardbut I wanted to ask if there was a reason it was set to 2 minutes... since y'all know the entire chain of events far better than me14:11
sorenNot sure about the history14:12
kbringardcoo, no worries14:12
sorenI think it's somewhat convenient, though, that the instances check in with the dhcp server at least once every two minutes.14:13
kbringardyea, good point14:13
kbringardmaybe I've just built my instances wrong14:13
kbringardthe leases seem to be expiring and DNS stops working for them14:13
kbringardor maybe I'm smoking crack and have the whole thing setup wrong ;-)14:14
sorenThey should be refreshing their dhcp lease.14:14
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kbringardhave a good weekend soren14:17
kbringardthanks for the insight14:17
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uvirtbotNew bug: #737574 in nova "'module' object has no attribute 'id_to_ec2_id'" [Undecided,In progress]
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kalonikemy new problem: failed to parse error message from AWS: unknown:1:0: syntax error EC2ResponseError: 403 forbidden Access denied to this resource14:41
kalonikei am running as root14:41
kalonikeand i have sourced novarc14:41
kalonikewhat the hell is the problem?14:42
kalonikei did everything in the same way as earlier14:42
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kalonikeis there any nova system which i could login??14:44
kalonikei am on the way going crazy, not being able to install nova14:44
kalonikebut i would need to my work very urgent a working nova system14:44
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oldbamis there a way in swauth to assign user to a custom group (not .reseller_admin, account:user, account) via ReST?14:48
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jaypipesdendrobates: reminder.. it's your review day today.14:54
ttxsoren, jaypipes, justinsb: basic version of the prioritizer at
ttxverrry slow.14:54
jaypipesdendrobates: sorry, not it's not. n,m.14:54
ttxverrry raw.14:54
dendrobatesjaypipes: did it change?14:54
jaypipesdendrobates: no, I'm an idiot.14:54
dendrobatesit was 3/2214:54
jaypipesdendrobates: it's josh mckenty's day today... and I doubt we will hear from him somehow..14:55
dendrobatesmy RD is my 2nd day at cisco, so I might have to do it in the evening14:56
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pvodendrobates: you could switch with someone15:14
pvotake today instead of mckenty? :)15:14
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kbringardhmmm, nova-network doesn't seem to be updating my iptables rules... has anyone seen this before?16:28
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jk0Happy Friday everyone! :)
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ttxMore confusion on the Openstack API python bindings with
justinsbttx: What is our position at the moment?  Are we pulling a set of bindings into trunk?16:48
ttxjustinsb: no, they are shipped seperately as python-novaclient16:48
ttxbut my effort duplication detector went wild16:49
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ttxjk0: happy Friday too -- my weekend starts now.16:52
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RobertLaptopjk0, Now I have that stupid song in my head16:57
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joshuamckentyjk0: Are you going to review 53064, or do you want me to?17:00
joshuamckentyIt's my day17:00
jaypipessirp_: I'd love to get some reviews from you for the Glance bug fixes if you have spare cycles today..17:00
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sirp_jaypipes: sure, *been focused on the nova backlog as of late*17:01
jaypipesjoshuamckenty: hella backlog. as many reviews as you can do would be appreciated.17:01
jaypipessirp_: me 2 until yesterday...17:01
joshuamckentyUnderstood. I'm on spotty internets today, so I'm going to grab a ton of branches and review them offline17:02
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jk0joshuamckenty: I've been slowly perusing and testing it the past few days, but you could have a look too if you want :)17:02
joshuamckentyI had just seen that jk0 had started the review on that one already, didn't want to cross wires17:02
jaypipesjoshuamckenty: either that, or re-assign your review day to a different Anso-er that can pick up the slack. We're really struggling.17:02
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jk0joshuamckenty: actually, you can skip 53064. I will take it and try to get soren to look too17:03
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joshuamckentyI'll see if I can get some back-up, but I should be able to get a bunch of these done17:03
joshuamckentyjk0: k17:03
joshuamckentyjk0: anyway, the ntt folks should be putting an NTT copyright line in, unless they've got a mechanism to assign to OpenStack LLC.17:04
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justinsbttx: Your script is awesome17:06
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justinsbttx: Though I don't like the score it gives to my favorite MP: :-)17:07
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pvojustinsb: Should we discuss moving the pylint requirements? Seems something we shoudl talk about as a community rather than just merge in, no?17:14
justinsbpvo: Sorry, don't really understand what you mean by "moving".  Do you mean moving like "changing"?17:15
pvos/moving/removing/ requirements17:15
justinsbpvo: I think this is actually a bit of a no-brainer... the big change is not to warn about "_"17:15
justinsbpvo: Ah17:16
justinsbpvo: I think we can all agree that pylint has way too many false positives at the moment17:16
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pvomaybe I misread.. but weren't you suggesting we remove the require docstrings part?17:16
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justinsbpvo: I think the "_" fix should be 100% non-controversial.  That's more working around a pylint bug17:16
justinsbpvo: The docstrings warning I agree is not cut and dry17:17
justinsbpvo: My thought was that nobody is checking pylint at the moment17:17
pvoI do when I merge branches17:17
justinsbpvo: Ideally we'd just have docstrings warn on public functions17:17
btorchjaypipes: I downloaded lp:~jaypipes/glance/bug736295 , built and installed it. When I do the update it still won't set it to true17:17
justinsbpvo: But I don't think we can do that at the moment17:17
justinsbpvo: I'm glad you're checking :-)17:18
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justinsbpvo: I don't really care about the docstrings... eday set up an "errors only" job, and with "_", that then shows things that look like real errors only17:18
justinsbpvo: So that's top priority for me17:18
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justinsbpvo: I think the right thing to do on docstrings is to have yet another pylint run which tells us about docstrings and other non-code issues17:19
pvofair enough.17:19
mustfg2can someone tell me if a user using nova-compute is supposed to use the nova-manage commands ?17:19
justinsbpvo: But unless we whittle down the lists first, it's just too intimidating to attack17:19
justinsbpvo: Certainly let's talk about this at the design conference... I have a proposal along those lines17:20
justinsbpvo: But my vote would be to get ignore-docstrings in for the moment, until the pylint list is shorter17:20
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jaypipesbtorch: error or log output?17:23
jaypipesbtorch: isn't the functional test case I added in exactly the series of commands you run?17:24
mustfg2to concrete my question can i use nova-manage commands remote?17:24
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dragondmmustfg2: no.  There is some of that functionality available thru the api if you have the admin api turned on, tho.17:28
jaypipessirp_: I don't think our test case for migrations works at all... when I run it with debug, I don't see a single SQL statement echo'd from sqlalchemy...17:32
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sirp_jaypipes: uhhh, i thought i had it working when i committed *scratches head*17:33
sirp_jaypipes: although migrations are so weird with sa-migrate, i'm honest not 100% sure17:34
jaypipessirp_: yeah...17:34
jaypipessirp_: I'm not sure either :(17:34
jaypipessirp_: because I get the impressions that DDL statements aren't echo'd in the same way as DML statements in SQLAlchemy. :(17:35
sirp_jaypipes: possible,, guess you could make sure the test db is not deleted after the test, and then inspect it17:36
btorchjaypipes: ok it works .. was having problems due to my pythonpath but all good now, do you want me to place any comments on the ticket ? my output ?17:37
jaypipessirp_: see how when I execute the INSERTs and SELECTs that those statements get echo'd, but the migrate doesn't echo anything?17:37
jaypipesbtorch: on the merge proposal, just note that you tested it and it works :)17:37
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sirp_jaypipes: hmm i wonder if sa-migrate is not passing through a echo=True to the engine when it applies the DDL17:39
sirp_jaypipes: but in our code we do use a echo=True17:39
jaypipessirp_: hmm, lemme check...17:40
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jaypipessirp_: shit, no idea. it's not clear how upgrade() even received its param (migrate_engine). It's not passed via anything in glance/registry/db/ :(17:42
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sirp_jaypipes: it's a hook passed from sa-migrate, no?17:43
sirp_jaypipes: can you pprint the engine.__dict__ and see if echo is set?17:43
jaypipessirp_: where is that hook?17:45
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sirp_jaypipes: no idea, would have to hunt around sa-migrate source-code to find where it kicks it off, but imagine itsomething like MigrationRunner or some such17:46
jaypipessirp_: is the pprint(migrate_engine.__dict__)...17:47
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sirp_jaypipes; the engine has an engine (guess it wraps it), can you pprint migrate_enging.engine17:48
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jaypipessirp_: hehe, already tried that. prints the exact same thing:
sirp_haha, obj graphs shouldn't have cycles *ugh*17:50
jaypipesyeah, ugh.17:50
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jaypipessirp_: I did a migrate_engine.engine.echo = True and got more output...17:52
sirp_jaypipes: cool17:52
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jaypipessirp_: so, this test case: is producing this loveliness:
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jaypipessirp_: the ALTER TABLE ... RENAME TO migrate_temp is the hack needed because SQLite doesn't support ALTER TABLE .. DROP COLUMN. (and we drop the type column on images..)18:11
jaypipessirp_: note: the hack is in sa-migrate, not in our code....18:12
jaypipessirp_: if I add back the index=True on the deleted and is_public columns in Images, that hack dies a horrible death (and that's what the bug report is all about)18:13
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jaypipessirp_: oh, and why all log output is doubled-up is a complete mystery to me...18:14
sirp_jaypipes: wonder if somehow we attached to StreamHandlers to the logging object18:15
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beepboophi all, got kind of an urgent help  request for any devs on the channel18:26
beepbooprabbitmq's beam.smp process borked; high CPU usage and no messages placed in the networking queue are getting consumed18:27
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beepboophas anyone seen this before? found the/any root cause/s? is there any good way to restart rabbitmq without restarting all the nova management services?18:28
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pvobeepboop: we do see it from time to time. Have to bounce rabbit services to get it to recover.18:30
pvoI haven't done it with nova though yet.18:30
beepbooplast time I just restarted the rabbitmq service things got strange and had to eventually stop/start the nova api & scheduler services18:31
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pvobeepboop: yea, thats usually what we do when rabbit freaks out18:32
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beepboopok.  just restarted everything and waiting for the network node to re-register itself18:33
beepbooppvo: yeah, everything came back fine.  thanks man18:38
pvobeepboop: np.18:38
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dweimerI just updated swift to trunk (branch 251) and I'm now getting 403 errors from the proxy-server. So far I have tracked it down to the swauth 'authorize' function and it is hitting the denied_response call at the end. parse_acl is also being called with 'None' so there are no groups to match against. Any thoughts where I should look next?18:50
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btorchok I have setup my nova.conf to use glance and also changed my S3_URL to point to my glance box. using euca-describe-images I see that it can reach the glance box but it keeps on failing when I try to uec-publish-tarball. I've tried giving bucket as images and glance and bucket-1 but nothing works19:45
btorchthe glance bucket exists in swift and I can upload an image fine using the glance tool19:45
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kpepple_anyone running nova under postgres and has a moment to help me set it up ? trying to test my fix for lp73468019:59
btorchkpepple_: I'm not right now but I might be able to help you with postgres20:00
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btorchkpepple_: pg 8 or 9 ?20:02
kpepple_btorch: thanks. i've created a database "nova" and assigned the nova user a password "adgth7". is this the correct nova.conf parameters -- ?20:02
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kpepple_btorch: pg8.4 on ubuntu 10.1020:02
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btorchkpepple_: give me a sec trying out here20:08
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btorchkpepple_: what part is failing for you ?20:12
kpepple_btorch: when i do nova-manage db sync, it doesn't seem to connect to the DB. do i need a different driver ?20:13
btorchkpepple_: have you made any modifications to pg_hba.conf ?20:13
kpepple_btorch: i'm a noob on postgres ... what is pg_hba.conf ?20:14
btorchkpepple_: ok that's the authentication file .. but it's cool if you haven't modified20:14
btorchkpepple_: then make sure you have  python-psycopg2 installed20:14
btorchkpepple_: I changed my setup from mysql to pg and that was the problem20:15
btorchkpepple_: after installing the pg python module the tables were loaded20:15
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dragondmyah, you will need that to talk to postgres.20:15
kpepple_btorch: yes, i installed that20:16
kpepple_do i need to reference that driver in the nova.conf file ?20:17
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btorchkpepple_: try this and see if you can actually access the database  psql -U nova -h localhost nova -l20:17
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btorchkpepple_: I haven't .. I'm using 2011.2~bzr758 version of nova though20:17
kpepple_btorch: so that works ... but i don't have anything listed under Access priviledges for the nova user20:18
btorchkpepple_: that's fine20:18
btorchkpepple_: what nova version are you using ?20:18
kpepple_btorch: trunk ... with my bug fixes20:19
btorchkpepple_: cool20:19
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btorchkpepple_: try removing that --auth_driver flag and restarting nova and see if that helps20:19
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kpepple_btorch: didn't help :(20:24
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btorchkpepple_: hmm  ... we know your pg_hba.conf is correct cause you can access the db20:26
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btorchkpepple_: I'm not sure how well nova has been tested with pg cause even though I got the db sync to populate the database nova .. nova-manage gives me quite a few errors and nova-manage user delete doesn't work20:27
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kpepple_btorch: yeah, i'm actually trying to fix a pg problem with nova-manage instance_types ... let me start up a clean virtual server and try this20:28
btorch yeah in the nova-manage.log I see pg errors when trying to delete the user20:28
btorchbut then again I'm using an older nova revision than you so it might be fixed on yours20:28
kpepple_btorch: yeah, it's probably the issue with setting deleted=0 when we've defined deleted as a boolean. it gets cast fine for us in mysql but postgres b0rks on it.20:29
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btorchkpepple_: yeah postgres likes values to be between single quotes20:32
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joshuamckentyhey ironcamel I just finished a review of
joshuamckentyMostly questions / clarifications21:09
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westmaasjoshuamckenty: thanks a ton!  he is out of town for the weekend but I'm sure he'll see it on Tuesday21:17
westmaasthanks for the other titan reviews too :)21:17
joshuamckentygoin through them now21:17
joshuamckentysandywalsh and xtoddx : are we ready for another review of ?21:18
westmaasah, I was thinking you hit the others up already, but I guess that was other people!21:18
joshuamckentywestmaas: not that cool, I'm afraid. I've been too long from some parts of the code, and had to read quite a bit of it to catch up21:19
westmaasheh.  Last night was the first time I got to sit down and pair with one of my guys.  Was pretty fun, but yeah, I lot to read.21:19
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btorchkpepple_: hope u get it working :) later21:39
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kpepple_btorch: thx21:42
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devcamcarmtaylor: are you around?21:44
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mtaylordevcamcar: hey there23:40
joshuamckentysandywalsh: Gave a review of 5256523:40
devcamcarmtaylor: hey hey! just following up with you on my pypi probs23:46
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mtaylordevcamcar: yes! I think I'll solve that here real-soon-now23:48
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devcamcarmtaylor: awesome, thanks!23:48
devcamcari looked again and it still eludes me23:49
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