Monday, 2011-04-18

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winston-dhi, all.  Is there anyone who uses LVM based VM images? does that work fine with Nova (objectstore or glance)?00:46
dsockwellnova-volume has an LVM driver00:48
dsockwelli haven't used it, but if you're asking if it exists, it does00:49
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vishythe images are qcow2 with qemu driver00:57
vishythere is a proposal for volume booting which backs to lvm volumes00:57
vishyjamesturnbull: haven't seen that one before.  Try the x64 tarball?00:59
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jamesturnbullvishy: both images are straight from the Ubuntu site01:03
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jamesturnbullvishy: I'll try the amd64 tarball01:03
vishyjamesturnbull: I'm suggesting it because I've never tried the i386 image so i have no idea if it should work01:03
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winston-dvishy dsockwell: i'm asking because I tend to upload and then use a VM image which was installed with LVM volumes.  But I found the 'libvirt.qemu.xml.template' was based on partition. (The <kernel>root=/dev/vda line)01:34
winston-dvishy dsockwell: so I might mis-use the term 'LVM'-based VM images.  It should be a VM image that was parationed to LVM volumes.01:35
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winston-dvishy : do you know the details about 'dnsmasq' issue on RHEL that BK_man once refered to?  I'm using his RHEL packaging, it uses some hack to work around that issue (doing network injection in
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vishywinston-d: no i don't01:40
vishywinston-d: the guest can partition however if you use whole disk booting01:41
vishywinston-d: although you will have to do something like cloud-init to get keys into the image01:41
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winston-dvishy : yes, whole disk booting works fine but utilizing external kernel, ramdisk is more flexible.01:42
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vishywinston-d: I don't think there is any way to specify the partition to boot from through the api, so i think lvm partitioning is limited to whole disk01:44
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winston-dvishy : so the default libvirt tempalte was based on partition, right?  This limits the VM images Nova can support.  Is it possible to support both LVM partition and disk partition VM images at the same time?  The bottleneck, from my understanding is the libvirt template.01:51
winston-dvishy : BTW, I changed the template to something like "<cmdline>root=/dev/mapper/vg_rhel6-lv_root" it worked.01:51
winston-dvishy : also, it seems to me that in order to boot successfully, all uploaded disk-partion VM image would have to installed the root partition "/" to same position, say 1st partion to keep align with what is written in libvirt.template.  Do I get it right?01:54
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fysaanyone using scalr?03:22
HugoKuoI tried Scalr before for eucalyptus in prvate cloud03:23
HugoKuois that support openstack now ?03:23
fysathey're working on it, from the sound of it03:23
HugoKuodoes openstack nova provide autoscaling ?03:24
HugoKuoI'm checking features of Cactus release now03:24
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fysait has Rackspace and Chef support, and was targeting OpenStack bexar release..03:28
fysaand Nimbula03:28
fysaI think it's still mainly a Eucalyptus stack though03:29
HugoKuoactually , I don't think so..03:32
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HugoKuoI  just API compatible with eucalyptus03:33
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HugoKuobut the architecture is different from eucalyptus ...03:33
HugoKuosure , maybe that's my misunderstanding ...........03:33
HugoKuodoes anyone test the feature of Zone in Cactus ?03:36
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764236 in nova "Parameter mismatch when calling _create_image() from spawn() in" [Undecided,In progress]
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HugoKuo'm going to test Cactus..........06:36
HugoKuoBut I don't know how to useing new features , such as live migration / create multi users for one project / zone support06:37
HugoKuois there any docs talk about them ? thanks06:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764338 in nova "nova-manage floating create not filling in project_id" [Undecided,New]
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donkeycaton ubuntu, is the nova-compute package required on the cloud controller?08:51
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doudeHi, with the command 'glance-upload', it's possible to specifie the aki and ari ids of an ami image. How we can do that with command 'glance add' ?08:55
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thickskinsmoebody tell me how can I install nova.09:04
donkeycatthickskin: see
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thickskinbut i have already check that page and more.09:05
thickskinIt dosen`t work in my com.09:06
donkeycatdid you try downloading and running the install script09:06
thickskinof course I`ve done but It`s dosen`t work too.09:07
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doudeOk, I found. I juste need to define properties 'kernel_id' and/or 'ramdisk_id' to the ami image09:07
thickskinwget --no-check-certificate
donkeycatthickskin: this is on ubuntu 10.04.02 server?09:07
thickskinubuntu 10.1009:08
thickskinIs this script work only ubuntu 10.04.02?09:08
donkeycatthat's what we run, and it seems to work ok. I haven't tried it on 10.1009:09
uksysadminnow I know the pitfalls of the fast pace of dev... (thanks vishy re floating ip issue)  anybody seen the error "Address quota exceeded" when running euca-allocate-address?09:09
thickskinwould you please check my install log about nova?09:10
thickskinwhich is better way to install nova Scripted Installation ,Manual Installation?09:12
donkeycatyou can post your on, although there are other people here who can help you better than me09:13
thickskinsorry no I have that.09:14
thickskincould you please tell me about openstack community?09:14
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donkeycatthickskin: I don't know much about the openstack community, I'm not a developer or anything09:16
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thickskindonkeycat: but you have challenge that and vm is running right?09:18
uksysadminchecking nova-manage project quota shows 10 floating_ips available - I've not assigned any but getting quota reached.09:18
thickskinIn my case vm is running but I cat`t access my vm.09:18
thickskinvm is running with no problem.09:18
ccookehmm. Does anyone have any idea why openstack might interfere with a cisco vpn (vpnc) connection?09:20
-thickskin- root@ubuntu001:/var/tmp/DeploymentTool# nova-manage project quota shows 1009:21
-thickskin- nova-manage project quota shows 1009:21
-thickskin- metadata_items: 12809:21
-thickskin- gigabytes: 100009:21
-thickskin- floating_ips: 1009:21
-thickskin- instances: 1009:21
-thickskin- volumes: 1009:21
-thickskin- cores: 2009:21
ccookethickskin: if you can't access it, how do you know it's running with no problem?09:22
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thickskinand I can accessed whit vnc server.09:24
ccookeah, so you can access it09:25
thickskinbut I cat`t access with this command.09:25
thickskinssh -i mykey.priv root@
thickskinand my vm is start with 192.168.30.***09:26
thickskin192.168.30.*** is my com`s network.09:26
thickskinping is success but there is another host that is running
thickskinIs there someone how to know (NovaInstall/MultipleServer)?09:32
jamesturnbullthickskin: euca-describe-instances - do you see you instance and its IP address?09:33
thickskinof course.09:33
jamesturnbullthickskin: what's the IP?09:33
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jamesturnbullthickskin: did you open up port 22?09:33
thickskinof course.09:34
jamesturnbullthickskin: so you've run euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default ?09:34
thickskineuca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default09:34
jamesturnbullthickskin: and what error do you get from the ssh?09:34
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jamesturnbullthickskin: you can add -vv to make it more verbose if that helps09:35
thickskinbut the problem is not about port.09:35
jamesturnbullthickskin: is the ssh server running on the host?09:35
thickskinvm is start with 192.168.30.***09:35
jamesturnbullthickskin: I thought you said the instance was
thickskinvm is running with 192.168.30.***09:36
jamesturnbullthickskin: and you're trying to access the instance from outside the controller?09:36
thickskinbut I can`t access from outside.09:36
thickskineuca-describe-instances   result is
thickskinbut vm is running with 192.168.30.***09:37
jamesturnbullthickskin: sdoes the instance have a public IP?09:37
thickskin192.168.30.*** is private IP09:38
thickskin192.168.30.*** is my compute`s net segment09:38
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jamesturnbullthickskin: have a look at
jamesturnbullthickskin: see the section about floating and euca-associate-address09:40
uksysadminjamesturnbull, thickskin I wrote that and since the writing of that there has been much development - so I'm playing catchup and retrospectively changing it to suit... of which I'm failing at present.09:40
jamesturnbulluksysadmin: sure - just couldn't find another simple example :)09:41
jamesturnbulluksysadmin: nice work on the script BTW09:41
jamesturnbulluksysadmin: so broadly what's wrong before I recommend it to anyone? :)09:41
patri0thi, any solution for bug 75897509:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 758975 in nova "When a floating IP is associated with an instance, nova-manage floating list fails" [Undecided,New]
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thickskinWhich is better way to install nova MulipleServer (Scripted Installation/Manual Installation)?09:45
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rccguys, question: when I create a volume with euca-create-volume, what project is set to? any paramater I can use to specify which project should the volume be assigned?09:54
ccookeah ha.09:54
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ccookeargh. s/VM/VPN/09:54
patri0tthickskin: manual installation10:11
uksysadminjamesturnbull, in a previous release I was able to assign floating ips using euca-associate-address.  This fails as there is no project associated with floating ips by default (I raised a bug earlier that was invalid, it was by design)10:11
uksysadminso just working out the middle step10:11
thickskinpatri0t:coud you tell me the resason?10:13
thickskinactually, there is some difference (Scripted Installation/Manual Installation).10:14
patri0tthickskin: going through wikis guide lines you will understand how things really work10:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #764426 in nova "Openstack API 'zone-list' fails for non-admin users" [Undecided,New]
patri0tinstead of entering some parameter without knowledge of where they will exactly use10:17
patri0talso obviously manual installation is way more flexible10:17
patri0tas I remember FlatManager is the only predefined networking mode in the script, but Flat is not the best choice10:18
thickskinpatri0t:I agree to your opinion10:19
patri0tI think that vish's script now get the networking mode as a parameter but probably still you need to play with the platform before using some scripted installation10:19
thickskinwhat can I do for vm`s network to join my com`s network segment.10:22
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thickskineuca-describe-instances result is
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thickskinbut vm is runnning with 192.168.30.*** (192.168.30.*** is my com`s network segment).10:24
onlanydoes anyone know about OCCI implementation in OpenStack? I have found this page only, but not too much information
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uksysadminI'm getting there [doesn't make sense, but I'm getting there!]10:29
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koolhead11hi all10:39
koolhead11hi nibalizer10:40
mihgenHi guys. Please tell me, was rebuild functionality included in Cactus?10:43
uksysadminjamesturnbull, blog update update now.10:49
koolhead11uksysadmin, hello10:49
* uksysadmin has floating ips again. damn you euca-allocate-address requirement sneaking in there ;-)10:49
uksysadminhello koolhead1110:49
koolhead11uksysadmin, how have you been?10:50
uksysadminI'm good now I've a working single host Cactus all in one server again10:51
koolhead11cool. am yet to get a clear picture on role based access control system10:53
* uksysadmin never knew 'bexar' was pronounced 'bear' allegedly... to that end, I'm looking forward to the highs and lows of "Caus" (silent ct)10:57
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HugoKuohi guys11:02
HugoKuois there any instruction of new features of cactus ?11:03
HugoKuosuch as live migration / add users  / zones ?11:04
HugoKuoThanks to the VNC Proxy, users can now access their instances through a websocket enabled browser (like Google Chrome).11:04
HugoKuoand this feature....11:04
HugoKuothere seems lack of docs about those features..11:05
HugoKuokoolheadll : could you tell me which hypervisor you're using ?11:06
koolhead11i have yet not touched cactus :)11:07
HugoKuohave you experience with windows instance or linux desktop ?11:07
koolhead11linux only11:07
HugoKuolinux server ?11:08
HugoKuothanks :)11:08
rsaidanhey everyone.. does anyone know how i can create a new image from a running instance? I want to use this new image as my template for launching new instances.11:10
onlanyu mean a snapshot?11:11
rsaidanyeah, i guess so.. i want it to show up when i do euca-describe-images11:12
rsaidanso i can create new instances based on this 'snapshot'11:13
rsaidani want to configure cloudpipe.. so I have to install openvpn on a base image11:14
rsaidanwondering how you guys do that11:15
HugoKuore-bundle image ?11:17
onlanywe use a java code for bundle images11:18
koolhead11onlany, java code?11:18
onlanywe have written it especially for this purpose11:19
onlanythere is an euca-create-snapshot in default euca2ools11:19
rsaidanHugoKuo: i'm not exactly sure what re-bundling images does?11:19
rsaidanonlany: having a look at that.. it's asking for a volume id? should this not be instance id?11:21
onlanyi think it is not implemented yet, i have not found anywhere11:23
onlanyinformation about creating snapshots11:23
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 750544 in nova "Snapshotting VM instance failing for KVM" [High,In progress]11:26
rsaidani think what i want to do is rebundle a running instance into a new image, as HugoKuo suggested11:27
HugoKuorsaidan : in eucalyptus , I install euca2ools into instance11:28
HugoKuoand use rebundle command to accomplish it11:28
HugoKuobut I did not run rebundle on openstack .... but I think it's same with eucalyptus11:29
HugoKuoso you can go to eucalyptus discussion board and looking for the instruction of rebundle ......11:29
rsaidanHugoKuo: so you enter your running instance and create an image of that instance from there? while it's running?11:30
HugoKuorsaidan : yes man , so that called re-bundle11:30
rsaidanHugoKuo: thanks for that, i'll do some digging11:31
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HugoKuorsaidan : what's your linux distribution ?11:32
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HugoKuorsaidan :   here you go~11:35
rsaidanubuntu host, centos instances11:37
rsaidanHugoKuo: thank you :)11:38
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Shurohi there, iam interested in obenstack, but i didnt found some screenshots about it, can someone help me there?11:44
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HugoKuowhat kind of screenshot ?11:48
adjohnshawn: there are several GUIs you can choose from out there.  As of right now the most complete option is either the django based one  based on django/python11:50
adjohnThere are others out there based on drupal, cappuccino, etc, but all have varying states of readiness11:50
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adjohner sorry i meant Shuro11:50
mihgenonlany: I've tested custom image creation (snapshotting) before the Cactus release. There was a bug and some patches were provided, include mine, but noone was included in Cactus. lp:~mihgen/nova/split-args-qemu-img-call brach should work.11:50
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 750544 in nova "Snapshotting VM instance failing for KVM" [High,In progress]11:50
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Shuroadjohn: thanks, i didnt know openstack, i've only read about it.12:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764551 in nova "OpenStack API 1.0 services.create should return more informative error" [Undecided,New]
RichiHdoes anyone run nexenta as storage backend for the object storage?12:34
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RichiHfwiw, nexenta speaks iscsi & nfs natively12:35
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dsockwellRichiH: i've been trying to use OpenIndiana to run something like that over fibre channel12:43
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dsockwellso far the only detail i've found out is that it helps to have a stable FC switch when you do that12:44
RichiHdsockwell: if your wiring is redundant, a stable swtich should not be needed12:44
RichiHthough it's obviously better to have one :P12:44
dsockwellRichiH: there is a Solaris/Comstar driver for openstack that should work on nexenta12:45
dsockwellit speaks iscsi atm12:45
RichiHbut we went really crazy on our cabling when doing deployment testing and couldn't break it as long as we didn't kill a whole, redundant, path12:45
RichiHdsockwell: that sounds non-supported ;)12:45
dsockwellyeah, i'm on a really limited budget12:45
dsockwellit does?  supported by whom?12:46
dsockwellunsupported by nexenta?12:47
dsockwelloh, object storage, my mistake12:48
dsockwelli'm talking about volumes12:48
dsockwellhaven't dealt with objects yet12:49
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rsaidanwhich ppa repository should i be using now that cactus is out? trunk or release?12:59
ttxrsaidan: depends on what you want to run.13:00
ttxrsaidan: cactus or diablo ?13:00
rsaidanttx: i guess cactus since that is more stable right? I don't want to run updates and something breaks13:01
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ttxrsaidan: indeed, then run the release PPA. Or Natty.13:01
rsaidanttx: ok thx, if i'm currently running trunk.. last updated on thursday, can i just change the repository and update or should i do a clean install?13:02
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ttxrsaidan: changing the repo should just work [tm]13:03
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radekHi How do I connect my nova controller to ESX Hypervisor13:44
radekany docs ?13:44
doudeHi, I try to setup a cloudpipe instance. I built the cloudpipe template but when I lunch the command 'nova-manage vpn run project_name', the cloupipe instance start on a host but it doesn't take the first IP of subnet project. Should I set staticly the network configuration in the cloudpipe template ?13:48
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annegentleHugoKuo: live migration docs: and
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annegentleradek: ESX doc:
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doudeannegentle: just a small remark, it's update_resource or describe_resource instead of updateresource or describeresource in
berendttrying to start nova-network (cactus release) fails with: CRITICAL nova [-] unsupported operand type(s) for &: 'NoneType' and 'int14:49
berendtany hints?14:49
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winston-dBK_man : hi14:51
berendtberendt, it's a problem in python-lockfile. you've upgraded to a newer version... :(14:52
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BK_manwinston-d: hi!14:52
annegentledoude: ah, thanks. Making minor fixes today so I'll add it to the list :)14:54
winston-dBK_man : I think I root caused the reason of network issue for my instances.  it's because the 'network injection' only works for eth014:54
BK_manwinston-d: ok. But latest patch should support several interfaces. Let me check it14:55
BK_manwinston-d: in cactus we are ready to implement multinic support for KVM with our guestfs patch:
BK_manwinston-d: see line 14514:56
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winston-dBK_man : btw, can you tell me more about the 'dnsmasq' issue with RHEL?14:57
winston-dBK_man : thanks.  are all the changes you made to original Nova in that git?14:57
BK_manwinston-d: ok. sometimes dnsmasq fail to respond to DHCP request from an instances. We saw that issue on Ubuntu also, not only on RHEL.14:58
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BK_manwinston-d: you can use network injection as workaround with dnsmasq issue, but please note that dns servers data is not injected at the moment14:59
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winston-dBK_man : is there any BUG # related to dnsmasq issue?  I asked vishy about it but he seemed not aware of that.15:00
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BK_manwinston-d: nope. we didn't opened an issue in launchpad bugtracker since we were unable to reliably reproduce it15:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #764718 in nova "nova-network not working with python-lockfile version 0.9.1" [Undecided,New]
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winston-dBK_man : ok.  dnsmasq worked for me in Austin release.  So for your RHEL Cactus package, 'network injection' is the default mechanism to setup instance network, right?15:03
vishyuksysadmin: you can change your quota with nova-manage project quota15:03
uksysadminthanks vishy - the defaults were fine, some other "weirdness" occurred that I've now fixed15:04
BK_manwinston-d: nope. you need to enable it by hands15:04
winston-dBK_man : just like in Bexar, update 'injected' key in networks table?15:05
BK_manwinston-d: yep, that's correct15:05
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winston-dBK_man : OK. thanks15:06
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doudeHow a cloudpipe instance gets the first IP of subnet project ?15:50
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winston-dHi guys, I posted a question about image service here at:  I'd really appreicate if someone can help and answer it.  Thanks in advance!15:52
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gholtsoren: I made a change to swift/debian to fix bug 759972 :
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 759972 in swift "Install trunk debs on Ubuntu 10.10 fails with dup owned file between swift and swift-account" [High,In progress]
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annegentledoude: Hm, this doc ( doesn't really say, does it? Maybe ask on
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annegentlewhen I try to build nova from the 2011.2 tarball, I get these errors:
doudeannegentle: No i can't find the answer on docs, I'll ask the qeustion on launchpad, thanks.15:57
annegentlerrdtool not found, utils not found, etc.15:58
annegentledoude: ok, great.15:58
daboannegentle: does this page help?
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daboannegentle: It shows the dependencies for xenserver, but a lot are the same for all16:04
annegentledabo: ah, those are also here, right?
daboyes, I copied the ozone version16:04
gholtchmouel: Lula's time!16:06
gholtwc but oh well :)16:06
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764822 in nova "nova-manage image convert fails if image directory is specified" [Low,In progress]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764840 in nova "nova-manage floating list failing if ip assigned" [Undecided,New]
vishysomeone needs to build an ubuntu package for
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Nick0lahello.  I have a question about networking:
Nick0lathe CIDR I specified in the create does not match the CIDR in the create.  Does this mean I will only get 5 of my 13 usable IPs?16:48
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kbringardgood day friends16:48
Nick0laerr..does not match the CIDR in the LIST16:48
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edayttx: are you the one managing
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uvirtbotNew bug: #764921 in nova "image create response in unexpected format" [Undecided,New]
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jaypipesdevcamcar: are we still using Twisted? I thought termie had removed the last of it? re: this MP:
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jk0jaypipes: I thought it was still used in nova-objectstore18:01
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davidX-i've seen the swift stats document but does nova have an api to gather stacks about vm's?18:03
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jaypipesjk0: ah... for some reason I thought that had been removed by vishy or termie. my mistake, nothing to see here... ;)18:04
jaypipesdavidX-: gather stats?18:04
jk0jaypipes: it very well could have been.. but that's the only thing that came to mind18:05
jk0I thought it was just left in there because objectstore was going away eventually18:05
jaypipesjk0: gotcha. I just thought objectstore had been removed already.. .sorry about that.18:05
jk0ah yeah, no worries, I was more or less asking you the same thing :)18:06
uvirtbotNew bug: #764957 in nova "Volume stuck in "in-use" status and can't be detached" [Undecided,New]
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davidX-jaypipes: is ther something similar to this for nova?
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jaypipesdavidX-: There are 3 proposed blueprints for stat gathering in the next release of Nova. You can read one of them here:
jaypipesdavidX-: and here:
davidX-thanks, i should have worded my question differently18:22
jaypipesdavidX-: and here:
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davidX-jaypipes: the last link is rather interesting18:26
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ttxeday: mostly18:27
nhm_hrm... nova-network seems to be breaking NAT on my gateway.  Is that expected behavior (IE don't run nova-network on the cluster gateway)?18:28
edayttx: when I 'login', it logs me in as eday2 via LP, but my LP id is eday... not sure why the '2' was appended18:28
* ttx looks18:30
edaynot sure if it matters that my logged in ID matches since I can still see the schedule, but just thought I'd mention it :)18:31
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ttxeday: looking at the oauth table, you're not alone in that case :)18:33
ttxeday: I'll le it go for the moment, and look into it with summit coders if it becomes an issue18:34
ttxeday: let me try something18:34
ttxhmm, no I'll not touch it if it's not completely broken. I already upgraded to Natty, enough brokeness for the week.18:35
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edayttx: is there any reason why you even need to login? or is that more for the admins setting the schedule?18:38
ttxeday: it's more an admin thing.18:39
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letterjjaypipes: Did you get a chance to look at the email I sent you?19:17
jaypipesletterj: yep, expect a reply shortly. in #openstack-meeting right now :)19:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #765069 in nova "run_tests should add/allow failfast" [Undecided,New]
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sorenOh, ffs!21:09
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kbringardif anyone is running KVM and is interesting in snapshotting their instances21:39
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kbringardyou have to run it on the host machine where your instance is running21:39
kbringardbut it seems to work pretty well for creating iterative images21:40
kbringardI guess it would work with anything, not just KVM21:40
kbringardthere it is if it's useful to anyone21:40
kbringardI'm out for the day21:42
kbringardhave a good one friends21:42
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vishykbringard: coolness21:59
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