Tuesday, 2011-05-03

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RoAkSoAxkonetzed: howdy! I was wondering if you have available notes from your presentation on making nova components HA?00:33
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openstackjenkinsProject nova build #877: SUCCESS in 2 min 34 sec: http://jenkins.openstack.org/job/nova/877/02:19
openstackjenkinsTarmac: ensure create image conforms to OS API 1.1 spec02:19
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konetzedRoAkSoAx: I will post them on the openstack list tomorrow, I didnt have time to get it done today02:38
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elasticdogI had to make /var/lib/nova a symlink due to poor partitioning choices on a remote machine and now apparmor is complaining and won't let me launch instances02:57
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elasticdogwell, setting 'aa-complain /usr/sbin/libvirtd' gets me around it for now03:01
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termienotmyname: ping03:36
termienotmyname: is your email address your name at rackspace?03:36
termienotmyname: or is there an initial03:36
termienotmyname: ... actually i probably have an email from you somewhere03:36
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zigo-_-alekibango: Hi !05:26
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HugoKuo__does anyone knows how euca-authorize works ?06:33
HugoKuo__or I should say how openstack implement security group ?06:36
HugoKuo__I did not see any iptable rule to do security group ...06:37
HugoKuo__which progress responsible for associating security group to instance06:38
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psaikrishna_hello anyone there?07:19
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alekibangozigo-_-: morning!07:29
alekibangopsaikrishna_: maybe... :) try asking real question plese07:30
HugoKuo__Think about HA XD07:31
HugoKuo__I'm going to design a best architecture over there XD07:31
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donkeycatso are all the online cactus docs broken, or am I too dumb to use a browser? (the latter is pretty likely)07:34
alekibangodonkeycat: which url?07:34
donkeycatalekibango: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/07:34
alekibangodonkeycat: if you are using interned exploder, everything is possible07:35
donkeycatoh no, this iff07:35
donkeycater is firefox07:35
alekibangoha it looks like tea  here too07:35
donkeycatI actually tried it in exploder too, hoping it would work, but no07:36
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alekibangodonkeycat: the error is not in your television.07:37
alekibangoannegentle: we have some problems with layout here: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/07:37
donkeycatseems the table of contents in the left frame fails to load as well07:38
HugoKuo__does anyone knows the posibility of multi nova-network hosts ?07:42
psaikrishna_Yeah, I've question on glance.. I was thinking of adding authentication to work on glance. I'm just wondering who would be clients in the given architecture from the following URL http://glance.openstack.org/architecture.html?07:48
alekibangopsaikrishna_: someone was talking about adding auth already. ask jaypipes first or someone from glance07:49
psaikrishna_Yeah, I downloaded latest glance.. there is no auth piece of code it yet, Let me try checking out from repo07:50
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psaikrishna_https://blueprints.launchpad.net/glance/+spec/authentication, here I get it08:20
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HugoKuo__https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/155645    if you r interesting about nova-network HA   plz tell me your consideration .... thanks08:34
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alekibangohmm how it will really work, when you will have more network hosts now?08:37
alekibangohow will be the right network gateway selected?08:37
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alekibangoshould be done by some amqp rpc call right?08:41
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HugoKuo__or just a dirty script XD08:41
alekibangoHugoKuo__: that might be easy to find in src...08:42
HugoKuo__alekibango : I'll check it later...08:42
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RichiHis thierry carrez on irc?08:58
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alekibangoRichiH: ttx ^^08:59
ttxRichiH: yes ?08:59
RichiHttx: you talked to johannes pichler about talks at froscon, last week09:00
ttxRichiH: indeed.09:01
RichiHttx: i'll be the one from globalways submitting a talk and wanted to go over details, if any09:01
RichiHafaik, you wanted to send/sponsor $someone who could hold a talk, as well?09:02
ttxRichiH: we are considering it. Me/soren might come... the remaining issue is another meeting we thought of at about the same dates09:03
sorenRemind me again.. When is it?09:03
ttxsoren: Aug20-21, around the dates we talked about for a London meetup with Ubuntu09:03
sorenOh, right.09:03
ttxRichiH: spectorclan also mentionned getting a full "openstack room" at froscon... not sure we'll gather a sufficient crowd for that, though09:04
RichiHttx: cccamp?09:04
RichiHah, ubuntu09:04
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RichiHseeing as soren is ex-canonical, am i assuming correctly that the reference implementation (so to speak) will be based on ubuntu?09:05
ttxRichiH: froscon is in Sankt Augustin, near Bonn/Köln ?09:05
RichiHit's in/near bonn, yes09:06
ttxRichiH: I'm ex-Canonical too. And yes, Ubuntu is the reference distro so far09:06
zigo-_-RichiH: Hi there!09:06
RichiH"so far"?09:06
RichiHzigo-_-: hi09:06
ttxRichiH: we could have "multiple reference distro", if other distro devs step up :)09:07
zigo-_-RichiH: My patches for Debian are supposed to be merged, but I don't know what happened with them.09:07
zigo-_-So far, no news...09:07
zigo-_-As much as I can tell, the patches I made for Nova are enough.09:07
zigo-_-I'm working on Glance and Swift now.09:08
zigo-_-Glance should be ok too.09:08
zigo-_-But Swift, I didn't work on it enough.09:08
zigo-_-I'm currently trying to make some init.d scripts for it.09:08
alekibangoyes it is... glance works now09:08
* alekibango is also debian addict09:08
zigo-_-alekibango: Using my bzr repo?09:08
alekibangozigo-_-: ha :) you got me -- i will try it now, last time i used my own09:09
RichiHttx: fwiw, i am working with zigo-_- to get the debian packages into a good state and we are a debian house, historically09:09
RichiHwell, we used to be a gentoo house before i managed to wrestle people into submission a few years ago, but let's not go there :p09:09
zigo-_-There's enough people interested in Debian so that we can make quality packages for it as well.09:09
zigo-_-We're 3 so far ... :)09:10
alekibangothats enough09:10
alekibangowhat we need09:10
alekibangowe all -09:10
zigo-_-I think we should make an Alioth mailing list, in order not to polute others.09:10
alekibangois automated functional testing09:10
sorenzigo-_-: I've been busy traveling. I'll probably get around to merging your stuff today or early tomorrow.09:10
alekibangoto make sure things work in multitude of setups09:10
zigo-_-Still, trying to integrate with upstream...09:10
zigo-_-soren: Great news!09:10
zigo-_-soren: Did you enjoy California? :)09:11
sorenzigo-_-: It was ok. Not as warm as I expected, though.09:11
* zigo-_- enjoyed Mt. HuangShan, XiangSu province.09:11
zigo-_-RichiH: How far are you with your tests?09:13
zigo-_-RichiH: Did you get Nova to work?09:13
RichiHzigo-_-: perfect timing as i just found out that we will concentrate on swift, first09:13
RichiHzigo-_-: no, i had to put openstack on the back burner as a customer melted down09:13
zigo-_-As i said to aleki, I'll be back in SH at the end of the week, and restart my work on swift.09:14
zigo-_-We need to work more collaboratively.09:14
alekibangozigo-_-: true09:15
zigo-_-Take them, and give me things to merge from ...09:15
alekibangozigo-_-: what about dashboard?09:15
zigo-_-Then I'll submit to Soren.09:15
zigo-_-If we are only 3, then sending a quick mail is enough...09:16
zigo-_-alekibango & RichiH: What are your email addresses?09:16
alekibangozigo-_-: please use jabber or irc to get me09:16
alekibangoi dont read emails much09:16
alekibangoonly if you ping me via other means :)09:16
zigo-_-alekibango: Frankly, that doesn't work ...09:16
zigo-_-There's time gap, and all...09:16
RichiHzigo-_-: the public one is richih.mailinglist@gmail.com09:17
alekibangozigo-_-: in jabber  it will not be lost :) please get some jabber account09:17
zigo-_-I don't use jabber...09:17
zigo-_-I have Skype, ICQ, AIM, MSN, Yahoo, Gtalk ... (all for customer support...)09:17
alekibangoi dont like using spyware to talk to friends09:18
alekibangoor customers09:18
zigo-_-Then use pidgin!09:18
alekibangoall which you mentioned IS SPYWARE09:18
zigo-_-pidgin is *not*.09:18
alekibangoyah, but its going via server09:18
alekibangoand you are watched09:18
alekibangoand more09:18
zigo-_-apt-get install pidgin-otr09:18
zigo-_-Done ...09:18
zigo-_-Can't be watched.09:18
alekibangothat will not help that much09:19
zigo-_-Why is that?09:19
alekibangoit stills gets the social network09:19
cloudgroupsif it goes form server ,it may be watched09:19
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alekibangozigo-_-: i like opensource, open solution, distributed (federated) social tools09:20
zigo-_-alekibango: If you help me setting-up a jabber server, I'll use it.09:20
cloudgroupsbut, who care that?09:20
alekibangozigo-_-: i did one 2 days ago :)09:20
alekibangocloudgroups: all parties do09:20
alekibangocloudgroups: go read good old document on echolon written by commision of eu parliament few years back09:20
alekibangoit will be enough to make you understand a bit09:20
alekibangoalmost everything is listened to - by many commercial and military orgs09:21
zigo-_-alekibango: He is crazy. He's in China, and he says "who cares" ...09:21
RichiHalekibango, zigo-_-: do we really need more than irc and email?09:21
zigo-_-RichiH: I don't think so.09:21
RichiHme neither09:21
alekibangoi think irc is enough :) if you dont like jabber09:22
zigo-_-alekibango: Why do you insist on NOT using emails?09:22
zigo-_-Everybody uses email.09:22
alekibangozigo-_-: i have still 80k of emails to read09:22
zigo-_-If you want, I can add your PGP key, and send you encrypted messages...09:22
zigo-_-Using filtering is the way.09:22
zigo-_-Anyway, got to go for dinner.09:23
zigo-_-Bye for now.09:23
alekibangozigo-_- :)09:23
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alekibangozigo-_-:  i just think emails are obsolete service... from point of user and admin of email servers09:24
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alekibangoyes. filtering  -- i tried hard... whitelists is the way to go if i will ever use email again09:25
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alekibango... sorry for OT :)09:26
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nagyznow thats natty is out, is it ok to use it as stock, or should I still add a ppa?09:43
sorennagyz: Stock should be fine.09:47
nagyzalso, how open would you be to the idea to add a new, experimental API in order to support EU09:49
nagyzEU's TClouds project?09:49
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uvirtbotNew bug: #776256 in nova "Revision 1032 breaks uploading of old images" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77625610:12
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HugoKuo__well , I failed to spawn with latest trunk11:06
HugoKuo__and the error is  KeyError: 'ip6s'11:06
HugoKuo__File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.7/nova/virt/libvirt_conn.py", line 2013, in _filters_for_instance    for ip in mapping['ip6s']]11:07
HugoKuo__but I did not use ip611:07
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sorenHugoKuo__: When you say "latest trunk" which version do you actually mean?11:16
HugoKuo__oh sorry dude ...11:16
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 773412 in nova "Check for use of IPv6 missing" [Critical,Fix committed]11:17
sorenWe're at 1050 now.11:17
soren1042 has a fix for that bug.11:17
HugoKuo__weired , I just fresh install nova 2 hours ago11:17
sorenFrom where?11:17
HugoKuo__how come I get the old version :\ sorry11:18
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sorenYeah, the ppa is somewhat out of date.11:18
sorenI'm working on addressing that, actually.11:18
HugoKuo__ok so I turn in to lp:nova ?11:18
HugoKuo__Thanks , my fault  I'll check bug list first....11:19
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nagyzare the generated certificates used for messaging, or something?12:51
nagyzwell, a better question is: what is it used for?12:51
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pgregoryhi all13:02
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pgregorytrying to follow the simple directions on the 'novascript' github site, running on a clean Ubuntu 10.10 64 install, fails when launching a new instance with "UnknownError".13:03
pgregoryAnyone got any advice for how to find out the cause?13:03
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annegentlepgregory: this page has some tips http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/common-errors-and-fixes-for-openstack-compute.html13:28
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pgregoryannegentle: thanks, I've now switched to doing it manually with the Ubuntu packages as per the wiki instructions, and got a bit further, but when I launch an instance, and then monitor it with euca-describe-instances it shows first "failed to spawn", then "shutdown".13:31
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dprincesoren: any idea why PPA packages are stuck at 1039?13:36
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annegentlepgregory: your problem sounds similar to this question https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/154771 so I suspect a bug13:39
pgregoryannegentle: I've looked at the log and it reports that virtualisation is not enabled in my BIOS, so am investigating now, old machine (testing) could be not up to it.13:39
annegentlepgregory: a fine theory as well :)13:42
RoAkSoAxkonetzed: cool. Let me know when you do so please! Thank you!13:44
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dspanopgregory: When I got that error is was a little deceitful. The beginning of the stack trace pointed to nova not being able to create a lock file.13:49
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dspanopgregory: Adding lock_path=/var/lib/nova/tmp to /etc/nova/nova.conf fixed the problem. I'm currently testing on an old junk PC too.13:51
dspanopgregory: Sorry, I meant --lock_path=/var/lib/nova/tmp13:52
pgregorydspano: thanks, but it looks like my old 3.2GHz Xeon doesn't have VT-x, so I guess I'm out of luck for this test.13:52
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dspanopgregory: Neither does my dual-core AMD E-machine. :)13:56
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pgregoryAm I correct in thinking that nova can be forced to launch using qemu as a fallback? Can't find anything in the getting started docs about it.13:56
ccookeSo, has anyone worked on the Xen support in Openstack?13:58
dspanopgregory: For me, it just ran it on its own. Or you can force it with --libvirt_type=qemu in nova.conf13:58
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pgregoryhmm, if I add that to nova.conf I still get 'failed to spawn'14:04
rsaidanhey guys.. does anyone know what the /var/lib/nova/instances/_base directory is for? I've been testing many images and this dir seems keep copies of images?14:04
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hvaldiviaHi everybody…14:06
hvaldiviaDoes anyone work with nova-volume?14:07
hvaldiviaI can't attach a volume to an instances if they are in different physical machines… :(14:08
vvuksanrsaidan: most of the images are used with expandable qcow volumes14:08
vvuksanrsaidan: so base contains a copy of your image which is used as a "base" to create your own image14:09
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rsaidanvvuksan: i'm running low on space, can I delete any images in here that I'm not using?14:11
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vvuksanrsaidan: i imagine yes14:11
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rsaidanvvuksan: thanks.. i'll give it a try14:13
rsaidanvvuksan: some have the _sm extension.. do you know what that is?14:13
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pgregoryhmm, right before the "failed to spawn" error in the log, I get a bunch of TRACE messages terminating with "KeyError: 'ip6s', looks like something is excepting in Python, any ideas?14:14
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koolhead11hi all14:15
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vvuksanpgregory: not sure but I heard of people complaining about ipv6 stuff interfering14:19
vvuksanhi koolhead1114:19
pgregoryvvuksan: yeah, seems a fix was recently committed, might have to resort to building from source :(14:19
koolhead11hello vvuksan14:19
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daboccooke: We're working on XenServer support; haven't tested with regular Xen yet.14:21
ccookedabo: I have a test environment for XenServer, but the documentation appears to be very out of date14:22
koolhead11ccooke, yeah.14:22
daboccooke: this should be up to date: http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment14:23
dabonot sure about the rest of the docs14:23
ccookethat's the documentation I was following :-/14:23
dabowhat's the problem?14:23
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ccookeit doesn't work? :-)14:23
ccookeVMs created stay in "scheduling" state forever14:24
* ccooke checks logs again14:24
daboccooke: are they actually in that state, or is the db not getting updated?14:24
dabo(try 'xe vm-list' on dom0)14:25
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ccookedabo: the VM certainly wasn't being created last timeI looked, and I've just checked again (since there'd been an update of the nova packages since that test)14:27
daboccooke: I can't test now, as I'm in the middle of turning the whole instance creation process upside-down to accommodate zones and the distributed scheduler.14:28
* ccooke tries a reinstall on this system, in case there's anything missing14:28
dspanopgregory: Try --use_ipv6=false in nova.conff14:28
koolhead11krish, hey14:30
krishwhats with 11 now14:30
krishi thought u were 1714:30
krishlike android 1714:30
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krishkoolhead11: you know what that means?14:31
krishkoolhead11: things are getting smaller14:31
pgregorydspano: same error14:32
dspanopgregory: Sorry man, I'm all out of tricks.14:32
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pgregorydspano: trying to build from source following the wiki instructions, last ditch attempt...14:35
dspanopgregory: That's how my setup is.14:37
koolhead11pgregory, are you on LTS?14:38
krishwhats wrong with LTS?14:38
krishkoolhead11: btw, not everyone uses ubuntu to run their openstack14:39
pgregorykoolhead11: I'm on Ubuntu 10.10 Server14:39
pgregoryheh, I give up, it fails on the first command "./bin/nova-manage db sync", says it can't connect to MySQL on (my IP address).14:42
krishwhat credentials have you fed14:43
vvuksanpgregory:  are you sure  mysql is up ?14:43
pgregoryvvuksan: yep14:43
krishcan you try using normal mysql client using same credentials14:43
pgregoryI did a restart of the process to be sure.14:43
krishuse -h
koolhead11krish, +114:43
pgregorysame error, but I'm just following the instructions, to the letter, cuttong and pasting from the Wiki.14:44
krishpgregory: mysql -u USERNAME -pPASSWORD -h <-- pastebin this14:44
krishi mean output of this14:44
pgregorykrish: should that be my username or root, as suggested in the wiki?14:46
krishpgregory: gimme that wiki link first :)14:46
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vvuksanpgregory: you should paste your nova.conf14:47
krishdid u do this ? Edit /etc/mysql/my.cnf and set this line: bind-address= and then sighup or restart mysql14:48
pgregorypretty sure I did, I'll check again.14:48
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krishand pastebin your nova.conf .. if required change the password14:49
pgregorykilling the mysql service and restarting.14:49
krishwhy isnt it die-ing with honor using restart?14:49
pgregoryright, I seem to be able to get in now.14:49
* krish doesnt understand why ppl have to be so brutal14:50
pgregorykrish: needs must when the devil and all that.14:50
pgregoryI did try a normal restart14:50
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pgregoryprogress, now it's failing on "./bin/nova-manage project zipfile testproject pgregory"14:54
pgregory"The above error may show that the certificate db has not been created."14:54
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dspanopgregory: I installed Ubuntu 10.04, ran the nova-CC-install-v1.1.sh script and had problems. I then updated my nova repository with this command sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nova-core/trunk. After an update then a dist-upgrade and a correctly configured nova.conf file, I had a working install.14:57
pgregorydspano: so you didn't build from source?14:58
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dspanoNo, I misunderstood what you meant until I saw what wiki page you pointed at.15:00
pgregoryhmm, seems there was some stuff still around from my apt-get install, wiped that and make more progress on a source install...15:01
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pgregorygah! I give up, foiled again, I try to run an instance and it just say "Unknown error" again!15:08
pgregoryeuca-describe-images shows nothing.15:08
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dspanopgregory: Here's my bash history from my openstack install.  lines 9-23 are where I got the successful install. http://paste.openstack.org/show/1276/15:09
pgregorydspano: thanks, but I'm not going back to an apt-get install, if I can't get it running from source, I'm going to give up and look for an alternative solution.15:09
pgregoryshould I have to do anything apart from unarchive the images.tgz to get them recognised?15:11
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dspanopgregrory: Once you get it going and see how it works, the frustration is worth it.15:12
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dspanopgregory: All I did was run uec-publish-tarball ubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz test x86_6415:13
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dspanopgregory: Then I tested it with euca-run-instances ami-3856e469 -t m1.tiny. The box I'm testing with is too small to run anything but m1.tiny.15:14
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pgregoryhmm, using an image downloaded as a tarball and installed using uec-publish-tarball seems to get a bit further, so I'm guessing there is a step missing in the Wiki docs.15:18
pgregorybut now it's sitting reporting "networking"15:18
pgregoryand not getting an IP address.15:20
Sumitpgregory: has your nova-network started correctly?15:22
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Sumitcheck this - https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/14654515:23
pgregorySumit: just scanned through the screens that the screenrc creates and found a couple of them were sitting there waiting for sudo passwords, just restarting everything again.15:24
Sumitmy "stuck in networking" problem went away after adding the python-eventlet package15:24
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Sumitpgregory: yeah most likely your networking had not started; same thing, if you are stuck in "scheduling" most likely scheduler is not running15:25
pgregoryhmm, now that everything is started, I can't ping
pgregoryit says that is the IP of the server, but I can't seem to see it from the host.15:27
ccookedabo: ... heh. the Xen system I have set up here is entirely broken, it seems, after the last package update. It's not even trying to talk to the Xen host. Time for a purge and retry, I guess15:28
pgregorylibvir: QEMU error : Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000001'15:29
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pgregoryhmm, why is uec-publish-tarball insisting that my amd64 Ubuntu image is i386, even when I tell it that it's x86_64?15:41
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pgregoryhmm, more progress, switching to the FlatManager for networking, the instance spawns and is running, I can ping it, but it refuses ssh connection.15:49
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pgregorysoooo close15:50
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agarwallapgregory: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/enabling-ping-and-ssh-on-vms.html15:56
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hvaldiviaDoes anybody work with nova-volume?15:58
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hvaldiviaI installed it on my cluster, I enabled /etc/default/iscsitarget, but I can only attach volumes to instances in the same physical machine16:00
pgregoryagarwalla: thanks, didn't make any difference though.16:00
hvaldiviaWhat should I do to attach my volumes to instances running on different machines?16:01
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hvaldiviaDo I need to install any iscsi client on my machines?16:02
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elasticdogis there an up-to-date description of the various roles? ['cloudadmin', 'itsec', 'sysadmin', 'netadmin', 'developer']16:09
elasticdogpgregory: check the console output...if it says stuff about uec metadata, you need to add an iptables rule16:09
pgregoryelasticdog: nothing that I can see.16:11
pgregoryI've just reconfigured br100 as per the wiki docs, and now I can't even ping the instance.16:11
pgregory1 step forward, 3 backwards :(16:12
elasticdogpgregory: I also had trouble with the maverick test image that the docs point to, but using the latest release lucid image from here worked: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/releases/lucid/16:12
elasticdogbut that manifested itself as errors in the console output about not being able to mount the filesystems16:12
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pgregoryout of ideas now, I have a running instance I can ping, but can't connect to with ssh, "connection refused"16:22
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elasticdogpgregory: can you pastie the output of `euca-get-console-output <instance-id>`16:27
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pgregoryelasticdog: http://pastebin.com/UEg9pYbt16:30
elasticdogpgregory: that's the metadata error I was talking about16:31
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pgregoryelasticdog: I added the euca-authorize stuff, what other iptables rules do I need?16:32
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elasticdoglook for the rule about half-way down the page here: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-multiple-compute-nodes.html16:33
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elasticdogadd that on your cloud controller (make sure to use your actual IP for $NOVA_API_IP if it's not set)16:33
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kbringardis ppa:nova-core/ppa just the released version?16:41
kbringardfor the apt-repo?16:41
kbringardas opposed to /trunk16:42
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pgregoryelasticdog: the port 80 rule?16:46
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elasticdogpgregory: yes, that iptables rule16:49
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elasticdogif you terminate that instance and start another, the "waiting for metadata service..." error will be gone and you'll see it inject the ssh creds in the console output16:50
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elasticdogor *should* be gone, I should say :-)16:50
pgregoryhmm, done that, and now I get connection terminated by remote host, and what's more, I cannot terminate the instance now.16:50
pgregoryit just sits in 'terminating' state16:51
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elasticdogyou might have to look in the logs to see what's going on...haven't run across that issue myself16:52
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pgregoryshut everything down, restarted everything terminated the instace, rstarted, and now it just sits there in 'spawning' mode.16:54
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pgregoryI get an error in the nova-compute screen, "libvir: QEMU error : Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000005'"16:55
pgregoryI'm about ready to throw in the towel.16:55
pgregoryIf I ever did get this working, I'm not sure I could ever repeat the process anyway.16:55
elasticdogpgregory: I agree that the docs could use some work...there's some duplication, some old info, some missing stuff; not too surprising with development moving as quickly as it is though16:56
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nhmpgregory: The biggest lesson I learned when getting my openstack install working was to blow away the database and /var dirs on a regular basis because old garbage was breaking stuff.16:56
pgregorynhm: how do I do that?16:57
nhmpgregory: not sure that applies in your case, but it caused no end of frustration for me.16:57
pgregory"no end of frustration" - yeah I know that feeling :(16:57
elasticdogI've had to manually go in and tweak some database stuff too16:57
nhmpgregory: well, I'm using mysql, so I just dropped and recreated the DB.  Mostly it was just the networks and fixed-ips tables so often I'd just delete everything from those.16:58
pgregoryhmm, sounds like this might just not be suitable for me a this stage, perhaps I should wait until things settle, shame though, it more or less perfectly fits my needs :(16:59
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pgregoryif only I could get it working.16:59
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pgregorymy other concern here is, this is all internal to the host at the moment, what other horrors await me when I start looking at remote configuration?17:00
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pgregoryshame, it all looked so straightforward in the screencast :(17:04
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pgregoryI'm amazed that the standard Ubuntu package version doesn't work though, I'd have thought that would be fairly stable.17:11
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uvirtbotNew bug: #776563 in swift "Logs uplader fails to upload logs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77656317:14
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ccookeSo.. have any results of the planning from the conference been posted anywhere, yet? :-)17:19
Vekthere was an email from vish...17:27
markvoelkerccooke: Depends on which projects you're interested in. =)  Network services (not yet an official project) have an LP site (https://launchpad.net/network-service though not much there...yet) and a wiki going (http://wiki.openstack.org/Network/).  Also vishy sent out some notes last night to the openstack@lists.launchpad.net list.  And there are some prezos and other info available in the blog (http://www.openstack.org/blog/).17:27
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jaypipesvishy: I have to step away for about an hour, but perhaps we could talk about https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/155250 later today?19:09
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kbringardjaypipes: seems the first thing to do is tell people to stop using the damn uec-publish-tarball ;-)19:16
kbringardjoking aside though, I've run into a similar issue19:18
kbringardwhere the _base images are cached "forever", so if you ever end up with an image ID which is the same as a previously cached one, the backing file for the VM is wrong19:19
kbringardwhich, as you know, is what happens when clean out the DB (specifically blast the primary key row)19:20
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nhmThink I should package applications as part of cloud images or have them remotely mounted and loaded via modules like on our current clusters?19:39
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ttxTeam meeting in #openstack-meeting in 75min19:46
kbringardnhm: personally we bootstrap19:47
kbringardmeaning, base image loads up user-data which has shell scripts to dynamically load the application19:47
nhmkbringard: Do you guys have any mechanisms to verify that applications work with different versions of the base images?19:48
kbringardjust a staging environment19:48
nhmkbringard: one of the things I want to do is verify that a given OS/Application work together and be able to roll back easily if updates mess things up.19:48
kbringardyea, we leave old iterations of images available19:49
kbringardso developer A knows that his application will always work on X ami19:49
kbringardsince it's been tested and put into production19:49
kbringardthen in the stage environment we provide new images with updated packages19:49
kbringardso they can test their applications19:49
kbringardif it works, then the apps can be migrated to the new AMI in production19:50
kbringardbut I mean, ymmv19:50
kbringardthat's just how we've decided to do it19:50
kbringardwe felt it was worth it to logically separate image creation and applications19:50
nhmDo you actually copy the application data in, or just remotely mount it?19:50
kbringarddepends on the application19:50
kbringardsometimes it's EBS volumes, but most of the time it's an exported nfs mount19:51
nhmon our compute clusters we use modulefile and remotely mount all the apps.  It's alright, but not without limitations.19:51
nhmJust NFS mounts for everything here, unless it's scratch space which is usually more exotic.19:51
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pgregorywhat might cause an instance launch to permanently show 'networking' as the status?20:07
pgregorycan't find any errors in the logs.20:07
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kbringardpgregory: there should be something in the nova-network.log20:10
kbringardif it's stuck in networking, 9/10 times it's because of an issue in the network controller20:10
vishyjaypipes: sure thing20:10
kbringardwhich I know sounds obvious, but with openstack, you never know :-p20:10
nhmpgregory: when I mentioned earlier that I had to clean out the network and fixed_ips tables in the database, it was to solve that problem.20:11
pgregorynhm: since then I've completely wiped everything and started again trying to do it with the Ubuntu packages20:11
nhmpgregory: basically all the screwing around I did with different network managers and ip blocks screwed something up.20:12
pgregoryI'm just not having any luck, I have decided to continue trying for the next 2 hours before I have to quit for the day, they I will just abandon the attempt.20:12
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nhmpgregory: did you look in both the compute and network logs?20:12
pgregorynova-network.log shows nothing but DEBUG messages.20:13
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pgregorynova-compute.log has some errors, one of which is "Cannot find device "vlanNone"\n"20:14
kbringardpgregory: did you apt-get install vlan?20:15
kbringardit doesn't seem to be a dependency in the compute debs, but it's required if you're using vlan mode20:15
pgregorynope, following a tutorial on another page, didn't show that.20:15
kbringardyea, add that and try again20:16
pgregoryI've tried to switch the nova.conf to use FlatManager, does that mean it shouldn't need vlan?20:16
kbringarduhm, in theory, but I dunno, I've never used anything but vlan20:16
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nhmI use dhcpflatmanager and don't have vlan20:17
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vishypgregory: you need to delete networks and fixed_ips tables and remake them if you switch modes20:17
kbringardah, there you go20:18
vishyand FlatManager is pretty useless without a bunch of manual setup20:18
vishyFlatDHCPManager is the way to go if you don't have vlans20:18
pgregoryvishy: and I don't suppose that's as simple as issuing a nova command is it?20:18
nhmvishy: yeah, it took me like a week to properly get that lesson through my head. ;)20:18
pgregoryI don't know what I want, all I *need* is to get this thing running so I can prove it's suitability to the task.20:19
pgregoryI don't have an preference (or indeed particular understanding) of the different network modes, what I'd like is a simple step by step set of instructions that actually works, unlike the 3 different sets I've tried thus far.20:20
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pgregoryreinstalled vlan, switched off FlatManager in nova.conf, and guess what, stuck in 'networking'20:22
Ryan_Lanepgregory: well, this is a pretty early-on project. it takes some idea of how you want to configure something if you want it to work at all20:22
Ryan_Laneeasiest mode (imo) is flatdhcp20:22
kbringardRyan_Lane: funny, I've had the best luck with VLAN20:23
nhmpgregory: are you using mysql/postgreql or just the default sqlite db?20:23
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kbringardbut that's because we have a funky network setup, heh20:23
Ryan_Lanehere's how I have mine configured: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/OpenStack20:23
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pgregorynhm: I'm following this tutorial...http://blog.warma.dk/2010/10/11/openstack-nova-in-maverick/20:23
konetzedRoAkSoAx: I emailed the list with the information and notes from the summit20:23
pgregorywhich, as with all of them, makes it seem so straightforward, which was why I decided to try in the first place.20:24
Ryan_Lanenote though, that I have a pretty odd configuration overall20:24
kbringardRyan_Lane: you wikimedia guys ;-)20:24
Ryan_Lanekbringard: did you see my talk? it's odd for a reason20:24
kbringardsadly I missed it :-/20:24
pgregoryI don't have a funky setup, I have (had) a simple clean install of Ubuntu Server 10.10, and followed the tutorials, and nothing works, it's a 'mare.20:24
kbringardbut I'm just giving you a hard time20:25
Ryan_Lanegenerally networking fails because the network node can't assign an IP20:26
kbringardsince people seem to be alive, I have a couple of hopefully quick questions20:26
Ryan_Lanepgregory: how did you create the network?20:26
pgregoryRyan_Lane: I just followed the steps in that page.20:27
kbringard1) I heard that live migration of KVM hosts was bugged... I followed the docs on how to set it up (nfs mounted instances directory, etc) but migration seems to be failing20:27
kbringardis that the case, or am I just (most likely) being dumb20:27
nhmpgregory: in /var/lib/nova there is a file called nova.sqlite that you can modify with sqlite3 if you install it.  I'm guessing you are using that as the DB since it looks like your guide didn't have you setup mysql or postgresql.20:27
pgregoryRyan_Lane: although I've tried tonnes of other 'stuff' since, so it's probably all buggered up now anyway.20:27
Ryan_Lanethis blog post is seriously old20:27
kbringardyea, I was gunna say20:27
nhmkbringard: I've been meaning to try it but haven't had time yet.  I'll let you know if I get a chance.20:28
kbringardOct '10 is probably Bexar or maybe even Austin related20:28
Ryan_Laneit doesn't even have the commands for creating the network20:28
Ryan_Lanepgregory: you trying to do a single node, or multiple nodes?20:28
kbringardI've had decent luck with this20:29
pgregoryRyan_Lane: but surely, if it's using Ubunity 10.10 and the Ubunitu 10.10 packages, it shouldn't matter how old it is?20:29
Ryan_Laneyes. it does20:29
kbringardbut, you can't necessarily just follow it, you have to understand what it's doing20:29
Ryan_Lanebecause this is a fairly new project. things change dramatically20:29
Ryan_Laneand the packages are coming from the ppa, not from the distro20:29
pgregoryRyan_Lane: all I'm trying to do is a simple setup, where I can launch multiple instances on a single server, first (simple) steps.20:29
pgregorybut TBH my clean 10.10 install is probably all bent out of shape now anyway.20:30
ttxMeeting in 30min in #openstack-meeting20:30
pgregorywhich is a pain, I didn't want to reinstall again, wasted an entire day on this already.20:30
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Ryan_Lanepgregory: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack.../os-compute-adminguide-cactus.pdf20:31
Ryan_Lanestupid google20:31
deshantmttx: you should get a bot to do that :)20:31
Ryan_Laneagain, stupid google20:31
kbringardI think that's what you mean20:31
Ryan_Laneyes :)20:31
deepy_Is it possible to run Swift on BSD or Windows?20:32
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ttxdeshantm: heh, maybe I do have one.20:32
alekibangodeepy_: bsd should be ok... windows - i would not dare run anything there20:32
alekibangobut it might work :)20:32
Ryan_Lanepgregory: read the admin guide. it has installation instructions using the packages20:32
kbringardalekibango: +n^n20:33
Ryan_Laneit also explains how to do the basic configuration20:33
Ryan_Lanepgregory: you are likely having issues because you didn't create a network, so the network-node can't assign ip addresses20:33
pgregoryRyan_Lane: looks good, but do I need to read the whole 88 pages just to do a quick proof of concept test?20:33
alekibangodeepy_: ubuntu is reference platform. i use debian and it works...  with similar bugs as in ubuntu lol :)20:33
Ryan_Lanepgregory: http://wiki.openstack.org/NovaVirtually20:34
Ryan_Laneyou can get it pre-installed on vms20:34
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deepy_alekibango: I find that the steps seems to be more and more unixxy the further into the manual I get20:34
deepy_Still probaly going to try it on Windows20:34
alekibangodeepy_: you can run it in virtual machine :)20:35
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pgregoryRyan_Lane: heh, that was the first thing I tried, yesterday, that failed miserably too, which is why I sourced the parts I needed to have a dedicated machine, thought it would be simpler.20:35
deepy_alekibango: I don't have unlimited amounts of memory :P20:35
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RoAkSoAxkonetzed: awesome, thanks you!20:35
uvirtbotNew bug: #776679 in nova "novarc provides link to the specific version of OS API" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77667920:36
kbringardoh, one other question: is there a place where setting up multiple zones is documented in greater detail? I've read the developer guide and best I can tell you just have to set a couple of flags in the nova.conf20:36
konetzedRoAkSoAx: np, i was going to do it yesterday but Work got in the way :D20:37
kbringardbut I wanted to read more about it (if such a thing exists )20:37
pgregoryI'll have a read through the manual, and give it a final real try.20:38
RoAkSoAxkonetzed: no worries :). I'll take a look at it and provide feedback if necessary20:38
Ryan_LaneI have a question while people seem to be chatty… :)20:38
Ryan_Lanehas anyone successfully got the ajax console to work?20:38
kbringardRyan_Lane: not me amigo, but I've not tried20:39
kbringardat least not really tried20:39
Ryan_LaneI have it mostly working20:39
Ryan_Lanebut the ajaxterm doesn't seem to talk to the console20:39
Ryan_Lanethe console is attached properly. If I use socat to connect to the pty, like ajaxterm is doing, I can use the console from the compute node20:40
Ryan_Lanebut ajaxterm itself doesn't show me a console, and don't send anything to it :(20:40
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ttxMeeting starting now -- cc: jaypipes, vishy21:00
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jaypipesvishy, kbringard: hey guys, sorry about missing you earlier... I'll send an email to you about the whole nova-objectstore/glance integration stuff later on... running out for some grub.21:58
kbringardno worries, I'm calling it quits for the day anyway21:58
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kbringardtime to go to the park and play with the kids before it starts snowing again21:58
_vinayI just installed cactus21:58
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_vinaybut when I run smoketests21:58
vishyjaypipes: ok21:58
_vinayI get error21:58
kbringardadios friends21:58
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vishy_vinay: admin smoketests depend on adminclient which was moved out of the nova codebase21:59
vishytry pip install nova-adminclient21:59
_vinay    import nova_adminclient as adminclient ImportError: No module named nova_adminclient21:59
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_vinayoh ok let me install that21:59
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dweimerIs there a swauth script to change a users password?22:02
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creihtdweimer: re-add the user with the new password22:14
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dweimercreiht: That works, thanks.22:17
HugoKuo___vishy : morning , do you have any experience with multiple nova-network ?22:19
HugoKuo___vishy : my purpose is something like network services HA22:19
RoAkSoAxHugoKuo__: like HA Active/Passive stuff?22:20
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HugoKuo__Roaksoax : yes22:22
RoAkSoAxHugoKuo__: well that's on the works actually but yes it is possible and will be possible in the near future22:22
HugoKuo__Roaksoax : I want to avoid network access block while nova-network dead22:22
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RoAkSoAxHugoKuo__: yeah right now it's all in the works, there's no 100% official solution yet22:24
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RoAkSoAxbut it will be possible overtime22:24
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HugoKuo__thanks , It seems like I have to figure out a way for current condition :)22:25
HugoKuo__https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/155645   if anyone interesting22:26
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_vinayvishy that worked... however another problem...22:41
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_vinayI have my own test which I am running in smoketests22:41
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_vinayin it I use self.manager = manager.AuthManager()22:42
_vinay(from nova.auth import manager)22:42
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_vinaythen I do self.manager.create_user()22:42
_vinaybut this gives me error that table users not found22:43
_vinaywhile I log into mysql and find that table users is present in database nova22:43
vishy_vinay: you should use nova-adminclient to create users22:43
Dumfriesattempting to have multiple partitions as zones on a single machine following the saio documentation. however I get 503 errors any notice the respective ports are not available (6010, 6020, 6030, etc).22:43
_vinayok .. not through auth.manager ???22:43
vishysmoketests are meant to be run against an existing install22:43
_vinayoh thats right.. correct22:44
vishyit could be on another machine22:44
vishyyou might not have direct access to the db22:44
_vinaybut in adminclient I cant specify user as admin22:44
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vishy_vinay: you should be able to23:23
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vishy_vinay: at the very least you can give a user the cloudadmin role which is functionally the same as the admin flag23:23
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DumfriesAny advice on "auth-server ERROR attempting to create account ... 401 unauthorized" ?23:54
DumfriesThis occurs when running "swift-auth-add-user -K FOO -a system root BAR23:54
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