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| vishy | Razique: it removes the volume it just takes a long time because it zeros it out first | 00:16 |
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| OutBackDingo | curious, can one build just a S3 compatible storage system with OpenStack Object Storage - Cactus Release | 02:09 |
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| notmyname | OutBackDingo: with basic functionality, yet. the s3 compatibility in swift is 2nd class to the openstack API | 02:54 |
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| OutBackDingo | notmyname: the problem being we have code written for S3 we want to move to a more internal private system so we need S3 compatibility, until time/costs permits us porting it to openstack | 02:58 |
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| notmyname | OutBackDingo: the s3 compat layer in swift has been basically tested with boto. realize that while basic features work, there is not feature parity between s3 and swift (versioning in s3, large files in swift, etc) | 03:00 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: ok thanks at least i know it needs further review | 03:04 |
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| notmyname | OutBackDingo: if you are simply reading/writing files <5GB, you should have no issues, I think. more complicated stuff should probably be checked first | 03:05 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: less then 5GB... really | 03:07 |
| notmyname | 5GB each, not total | 03:08 |
| OutBackDingo | basically 4 servers were being backed up to s3 storage, on amazon, we want to build an s3 box here and have the servers back up local | 03:08 |
| notmyname | swift has the same limits s3 does on individual object size (5GB). both s3 and swift have ways around it (I happen to think swift's way is better). | 03:08 |
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| OutBackDingo | soooo we set out vTL size to say 1gb | 03:09 |
| OutBackDingo | ok | 03:09 |
| OutBackDingo | 200 1gb files on local s3 be alot faster then over the wire | 03:10 |
| notmyname | should be :-) | 03:10 |
| notmyname | swift would be very good for that use case | 03:11 |
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| OutBackDingo | notmyname: we looked for a swift / openstack based backup software client for the servers but found nothing | 03:14 |
| notmyname | duplicity is one | 03:15 |
| notmyname | look for things that allow you to back up to rackspace cloud files. it's the same api, and so if you can set the auth url for that tool, then you should be able to use your own swift cluster | 03:15 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: duplicity is rsync | 03:16 |
| notmyname | OutBackDingo: http://blog.chmouel.com/2009/09/02/rsync-like-backup-to-rackspace-cloud-file-with-duplicity/ | 03:16 |
| notmyname | chmouel: ^ | 03:17 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: hrmmm gunnna be hard in Server 08R2 | 03:18 |
| OutBackDingo | seems ok for unixeen though | 03:19 |
| OutBackDingo | right now we are using s3-backup | 03:20 |
| notmyname | have you had a chance to try it with swift yet, or are you still learning to figure out if it's worth the time? | 03:20 |
| OutBackDingo | due diligence phase hence the questions | 03:22 |
| OutBackDingo | havent eployed a swift box for testing purposes yet | 03:22 |
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| notmyname | so from what you've described so far, I think the s3 compat swift in swift should work for you. I think the hard part will be getting your backup tool to talk to it rather than s3 (without doing dns hacks) | 03:23 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: hehehe we control out name server and firewall :) | 03:24 |
| notmyname | well install swift in a VM or on a spare box and let us know how it goes :-) | 03:25 |
| OutBackDingo | yeah thats the plan from here | 03:25 |
| OutBackDingo | notmyname: we looked at rackspaces cloud drive, and figured hey we can achieve this with openstack internally, so we set off on a mission | 03:27 |
| OutBackDingo | realizing it was jungle disk based | 03:27 |
| notmyname | ya | 03:28 |
| notmyname | which is using cloud files for storage which is rackspace's productized version of swift | 03:28 |
| OutBackDingo | so you see our endeavor | 03:29 |
| OutBackDingo | ok im not smoking crack i guess... maybe it is feasible | 03:29 |
| OutBackDingo | not to install swift in a XCP vm | 03:30 |
| OutBackDingo | ermm s/not/now/g | 03:30 |
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| HugoKuo_ | hi | 05:36 |
| HugoKuo_ | how's today everyone | 05:36 |
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| chmouel | notmyname: by the way something that may work better to do duplicity backup on swift https://github.com/chmouel/dt-cf-backup and the blog article http://blog.chmouel.com/2011/01/06/backup-with-duplicity-on-rackspace-cloudfiles-including-uk-script/ | 05:46 |
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| HugoKuo_ | What if there're two zones in my lab , how can both zones using same image pool ? | 06:05 |
| HugoKuo_ | Just sync glance.sqlite | 06:07 |
| HugoKuo_ | right ? | 06:07 |
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| zykes- | what do people use in conjunction with kickstarting / preseed ? | 06:45 |
| zykes- | cobbler ? | 06:45 |
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| ttx | zykes-: cobbler indeed seems to have momentum for it right now. | 06:47 |
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| pygi | hi folks | 07:16 |
| pygi | I must admit I'm not 100% familiar with how Compute works - but can I rip out the control panel from it, and bolt on something else? | 07:16 |
| pygi | in an easy, upstream friendly way - aka using its api or something? | 07:16 |
| dsockwell | control panel? | 07:17 |
| dsockwell | by compute, do you mean Nova as a whole, or nova-compute the service? | 07:18 |
| dsockwell | and by control panel, do you mean teh web dashboard? | 07:18 |
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| dsockwell | pygi: nova as a whole uses the ec2 api, and it is supposed to have a second one that's in the works. | 07:20 |
| pygi | dsockwell: I guess what I'm asking is - how easy would it be to create a customer-facing management panel on top of Nova? | 07:21 |
| dsockwell | pygi: nova-compute, the service that runs on the machines that host the actual VMs, has an interface where it takees commands from nova-api, the control server that lives on its own machine | 07:21 |
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| dsockwell | pygi: it should be doable | 07:21 |
| dsockwell | look at nova-dashboard for an example | 07:21 |
| pygi | right ... we're looking at Nova to see if it could replace our custom backend | 07:22 |
| pygi | seems sane to rely on more people than we have :p | 07:22 |
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| dsockwell | it's good enough for NASA | 07:22 |
| pygi | that doesn't help me | 07:22 |
| pygi | we're not NASA :P | 07:22 |
| pygi | don't think customers would care either if it was broken :D | 07:23 |
| dsockwell | oh, well if broken is what you want then you can do any old thing | 07:23 |
| pygi | hehe :) | 07:23 |
| dsockwell | oh right | 07:23 |
| dsockwell | n/m that one slipped by me | 07:23 |
| dsockwell | anyway the ec2 api is robust enough for amazon | 07:24 |
| dsockwell | that better? | 07:24 |
| pygi | dsockwell: any idea what KVM support and live RAM/CPU (and possibly HDD) resize support is? | 07:24 |
| pygi | its decent :P | 07:24 |
| dsockwell | KVM support is a primary feature, and I don't know about the other two | 07:24 |
| pygi | thinking live RAM and CPU should be easy | 07:24 |
| pygi | dunno about HDD...not that easy :D | 07:25 |
| pygi | but ok, thanks for the answers | 07:25 |
| dsockwell | if you wait a few hours, someone with a clue might show up | 07:25 |
| dsockwell | most of them are sleeping | 07:25 |
| pygi | :) | 07:25 |
| pygi | ya US *shrug* | 07:25 |
| dsockwell | yeah, check out the dashboard code that comes with openstack | 07:28 |
| dsockwell | or maybe it doesn't come with it, but it's somewhere | 07:28 |
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| mariodanic | dsockwell: python? | 07:31 |
| dsockwell | i haven't actually looked, but most of the tools are in python so that wouldn't surprise me | 07:32 |
| dsockwell | most of the project is python | 07:32 |
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| mariodanic | good, that sounds good | 07:32 |
| mariodanic | thank you sir | 07:32 |
| HugoKuo_ | could project admin upload image ? | 07:34 |
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| Razique | Hi all | 07:41 |
| Razique | hi dsockwell, still awake :p | 07:41 |
| dsockwell | yes | 07:42 |
| dsockwell | i've decided just never to sleep again | 07:42 |
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| Razique | ^^ | 07:47 |
| uvirtbot | Razique: Error: "^" is not a valid command. | 07:47 |
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| Razique | When I create a network (nova-manage network create) how does nova know which project use with it ? | 07:48 |
| HugoKuo_ | Why that I'm alway connect refuse while I upload image :< | 07:50 |
| HugoKuo_ | in instacne | 07:50 |
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| heden | are snapshots of running instances available at this point? | 08:50 |
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| Razique | I've filed a new bug | 08:58 |
| Razique | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/795428 | 08:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795428 in nova "Unable to remove a LVM volume" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795428 | 09:06 |
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| HugoKuo_ | yes | 09:25 |
| doude | Hi, how I can use S3 services (like uec-publish-tarball command) with Glance image service ? | 09:28 |
| doude | Is it possible ? | 09:29 |
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| doude | In fact, I want to publish a uec Ubuntu image in my Glance image service. I get the uec tarball and I try to publish it by add the kernel file (*-vmlinuz-virtual) whit aki format and container and add the image (*.img) with ami format and container and set property kernel_id. But when I boot the image, I get a kernel panic. | 09:34 |
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| eyecue | hmm | 09:36 |
| eyecue | :] | 09:36 |
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| Razique | doude: The kernel panic seems to be something else | 09:40 |
| Razique | I glance is running, and you make the connection (by modifying your nova.conf) | 09:41 |
| Razique | uec-publish-tarball will use glance | 09:41 |
| Razique | --glance_host=172.16.40.245 | 09:41 |
| Razique | --image_service=nova.image.glance.GlanceImageService | 09:41 |
| doude | Razique: so you use the uec-publish-tarball with Glance ? | 09:42 |
| Razique | doude: I do :) | 09:42 |
| Razique | and it's working well | 09:42 |
| doude | Razique: Yes I use Glance but I upload image with 'glance add' command | 09:42 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1609/ | 09:42 |
| Razique | there are few subtilities between the two tools that I don't know very much | 09:43 |
| Razique | but it's pretty the same thing | 09:43 |
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| doude | Razique: but how you upload an image ? | 09:44 |
| Razique | I use uec-publish-tarball | 09:44 |
| doude | Razique: with command 'glance add' or wiht uec-publish-tarball ? | 09:44 |
| doude | Razique: so do you run a nova-objectsore daemon ? | 09:44 |
| Razique | not anymore | 09:45 |
| Razique | in fact the service runs, but the images are not added to it | 09:46 |
| doude | Razique: but the command uec-publish-tarball use a S3 service, so it use the env var S3_URL and this var indicate the url and the port of the objectstore daemon | 09:47 |
| HugoKuo_ | does anyone know the euca-register 's workflow ? | 09:48 |
| HugoKuo_ | I got something weired :< | 09:48 |
| Razique | doude: mmm you are right actually | 09:49 |
| Razique | but how comes my Glance service has the images register ? | 09:49 |
| doude | Razique: when you upload an image, can you see logs in nova-objectstore.log ? | 09:50 |
| Razique | the glance daemons listens on port 9292, maybe you just need to change that in your bashrc | 09:50 |
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| Razique | doude: I'm testing right now | 09:52 |
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| Razique | the objectsore log is empty | 09:53 |
| doude | Razique: No, i think i understand the mecanism | 09:55 |
| Razique | enligthen me :p | 09:55 |
| * eyecue wants to play with openstack on FreeBSD :] | 09:55 | |
| HugoKuo_ | Razique : how can you publish image without nova-objectstore ?@@ | 09:55 |
| doude | Razique: i confused image service and the S3 service | 09:55 |
| Razique | actually, I've logs into glance-registry.log | 09:55 |
| Razique | HugoKuo_: I use glance | 09:55 |
| doude | Razique: just a minute to check | 09:55 |
| HugoKuo_ | Razique : but uec-publish-tarball is not compatible with glance .... it must communicate with glance through nova-objectstore | 09:57 |
| HugoKuo_ | I saw your earlier post , you can publish image with uec-publish-tarball cmd ? | 09:57 |
| Razique | HugoKuo_: I read few weeks here that I could use uec-publish-tarball with Glance, I just tried for doude and it worked | 09:57 |
| Razique | yup look | 09:57 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1610/ | 09:58 |
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| Razique | check my previous paste, I added the maverick image | 09:58 |
| Razique | now it appears via euca-describe-images and via glance-index | 09:58 |
| Razique | to me I use Glance, not the default object store | 09:59 |
| HugoKuo_ | how about .... ps aux | grep nova | 09:59 |
| doude | Razique: Nova have an Image service compose of three types :fake, local and Glance. Nova Objectstore isn't an Image service, it's just an basic implementation of the S3 service. When objectstore received a request (fetch or put image), it use the nova image service to read or write the image. | 10:00 |
| HugoKuo_ | could you plz show me the result of #service nova-objectstore status | 10:00 |
| HugoKuo_ | Thanks | 10:00 |
| doude | Razique: So you must use objectstore (basic S3 service) with the command uec-publish-tarball. s it more clear | 10:01 |
| doude | Razique: Is it more clear | 10:01 |
| doude | Razique: ? | 10:01 |
| HugoKuo_ | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/153430 check this QA | 10:02 |
| HugoKuo_ | I discuss about this before | 10:02 |
| HugoKuo_ | you can jump to commit #9 | 10:02 |
| HugoKuo_ | I believe nova-objectstore daemon is running in you NOVA | 10:03 |
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| doude | HugoKuo_: did you try to upload an uec image directly to glance with the command 'glace add' ? | 10:09 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: 'glance add'* | 10:09 |
| HugoKuo_ | nope , | 10:10 |
| HugoKuo_ | the format seems different | 10:10 |
| HugoKuo_ | http://images.ansolabs.com/tty.tgz but I tried this image | 10:10 |
| HugoKuo_ | instead of uec image | 10:10 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: That's strange, i tried it but when I but the AMI image, I get a kernel panic. I think, the script uec-publish-tarball make some modification on the image but what ? | 10:11 |
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| HugoKuo_ | thinking | 10:12 |
| HugoKuo_ | what's you complete cmd ? | 10:13 |
| HugoKuo_ | glance add uec-image-xxxxxx ? | 10:14 |
| HugoKuo_ | it's been compressed ... | 10:14 |
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| HugoKuo_ | do you think KVM knows about xxx.gz @@ | 10:14 |
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| HugoKuo_ | while you want to use galnce add ..... it will be more complex | 10:16 |
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| doude | HugoKuo_: No, I untar the file and add kernel and image | 10:27 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: Here my commands http://paste.openstack.org/show/1611/ | 10:29 |
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| HugoKuo_ | trying | 10:32 |
| HugoKuo_ | did you check the loader file ? | 10:33 |
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| HugoKuo_ | ok , nothing special | 10:37 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: i check the script uec-publish-tarball, it use only *-vmlinuz-virtual as kernel and *.img as images files | 10:37 |
| HugoKuo_ | I success to run up UEC image | 10:38 |
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| HugoKuo_ | which I add by glance add | 10:38 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: I found one difference, with the script uec-publish-tarball, the property architecture is added to the image and kernel files. i try to add it | 10:39 |
| HugoKuo_ | maybe , I just follow your cmd to add both kernel and img | 10:40 |
| HugoKuo_ | it's running , everything is fine . nothing special :< | 10:40 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: You can boot the kernel and mount the FS ? | 10:42 |
| doude | doude: the same with architecture :( http://paste.openstack.org/show/1612/ | 10:43 |
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| HugoKuo_ | http://pastebin.com/9GyDYhFB take a look | 10:43 |
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| HugoKuo_ | the console out put | 10:43 |
| HugoKuo_ | how come ..=..= | 10:44 |
| HugoKuo_ | I use same cmd to add image and kernel ..:< | 10:45 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: strange, perhaps a pb with my image file | 10:45 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: ok thanks for your help, I'll try with an other image | 10:45 |
| HugoKuo_ | how about change one | 10:45 |
| HugoKuo_ | ok | 10:45 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: I go to lunch | 10:46 |
| doude | HugoKuo_: bye | 10:46 |
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| Razique | back | 12:01 |
| Razique | doude: what's the status | 12:01 |
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| doude | Razique: I'm online | 12:18 |
| Razique | hey doude so as far as I understood, objectstore is just an interface for a backend image service | 12:19 |
| Razique | So nova-objectstore connects to glance via it's API in order to store/ retrieve images | 12:20 |
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| soren | No. | 12:29 |
| soren | if anything, it's the other way around. | 12:29 |
| soren | nova-objectstore simply implements the S3 API, storing everything on the filesystem. | 12:30 |
| soren | Glance can use it as a backend, but not the other way around. | 12:30 |
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| Razique | ok, but how comes that if I use uec-publish-tarball, the image is stored by glance ? | 12:31 |
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| soren | Razique: Because you've configured glance to be your image service. | 12:37 |
| soren | Here's how it works: | 12:37 |
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| soren | When you call the RegisterImage method of the EC2 API, it goes and looks in nova-objectstore for the URL you gave it. | 12:38 |
| DogWater | What do you folks like to use as far as SAN for storing your OpenStack VMs? | 12:38 |
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| soren | It yanks the image out, decrypts it, stitches it back together, and puts the image into the image service, you've configured. | 12:38 |
| DogWater | Is there a best practices guide? | 12:38 |
| soren | DogWater: None. | 12:38 |
| soren | DogWater: Local disks. | 12:38 |
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| Razique | DogWater: HP San :) | 12:39 |
| DogWater | Razique: is that 3PAR or HP proper? | 12:39 |
| DogWater | I have about 80-100K I can spend on storage but all the quotes I am getting back are $250k+ from hitachi and guys like that. | 12:39 |
| Razique | It's one of the MSA serries | 12:39 |
| Razique | soren: ok thanks | 12:40 |
| Razique | so Glance is the backend, as it could be a local storage directly ? | 12:40 |
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| soren | Razique: Without glance, you can only have one machine. | 12:41 |
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| Razique | soren: so Glance allows you to store your images into multiple locations ? (is it it's 'main" feature) | 12:43 |
| Razique | I've also read that it provides an extra API in order to communicate with IT, appart from nova | 12:44 |
| soren | Razique: In this context, what Glance gives you is a central image store that multiple compute nodes can pull from. | 12:44 |
| Razique | which means in extenso you can use it for images storing and providing | 12:44 |
| Razique | soren: alright, I get it, thanks for the explanations :) | 12:45 |
| soren | Sure :) | 12:45 |
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| Razique | doude: have you been through your Glance issue ? | 12:46 |
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| doude | Razique: yes I solve my problem | 12:50 |
| xxtjaxx | Hi! I installed nova on debian. I get an exception running nova tools. It can't find sqlalchemy.exc. Why? And where do I get it from? | 12:50 |
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| Razique | doude: nice :) | 12:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795526 in swift "st and client.py need to work with older versions of Python" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795526 | 13:02 |
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| NashTrash | Good morning OpenStaack'ers | 13:24 |
| Razique | is there any firewall restriction on nova ? I've affected a private ip to an instance, and now I'd like to use a NAT on the foreground firewall | 13:24 |
| NashTrash | Does anyone know of any documentation on using the RDBDriver with nova-volume? | 13:24 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #795541 in nova "nova-manage vm list says "'Instance' object has no attribute 'image_id'"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795541 | 13:26 |
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| mihaimma | Hello everybody, can someone help me with a problem? | 14:11 |
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| mihaimma | I have this error "Found instance 'instance-0000004f' in DB but no VM. State=5, so setting state to shutoff." and I couldnt find anything on the web about it... | 14:15 |
| Razique | mihaimma: just ask :) | 14:15 |
| mihaimma | :) | 14:15 |
| Razique | what nova-manage service list returns ? | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ccontroller.management.fdro nova-scheduler enabled :-) 2011-06-10 14:16:14 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ccontroller.management.fdro nova-volume enabled :-) 2011-06-10 14:16:14 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ncontroller2.management.fdro nova-compute enabled :-) 2011-06-10 14:16:16 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ccontroller.management.fdro nova-network enabled XXX 2011-06-10 14:14:11 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ccontroller.management.fdro nova-compute enabled :-) 2011-06-10 14:16:15 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | ncontroller1.management.fdro nova-compute enabled XXX 2011-06-10 14:06:10 | 14:16 |
| mihaimma | sorry for flooding | 14:16 |
| Razique | use http://paste.openstack.org/ :) | 14:17 |
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| mihaimma | ok, one sec, a collegue just rebooted the cloud controller | 14:17 |
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| Razique | ok :) | 14:25 |
| Razique | time to get a coffee then, if it's an HP server, it'll took like 5 mintues :D | 14:25 |
| Razique | nowadays the BIOSes themselves are longer to boot that the OS | 14:25 |
| btorch | hehe so true :) | 14:26 |
| mihaimma | it's a test env, it's hp but a workstation :) | 14:27 |
| mihaimma | dc5800 | 14:27 |
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| mihaimma | ok, now i get this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1614/ | 14:40 |
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| mihaimma | after the reboot | 14:41 |
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| Razique | mihaimma: We saw that error several times here | 14:51 |
| Razique | let me look into the history =) | 14:51 |
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| Razique | what nova-manage service list returns ? | 14:56 |
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| mihaimma | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1617/ | 15:01 |
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| Razique | mihaimma: sorry, can't find into the history about that issue | 15:03 |
| Razique | but your component nova-network is not right | 15:03 |
| Razique | could you show me the /var/log/nova/nova-network.log file ? | 15:03 |
| mihaimma | yes, one sec | 15:04 |
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| mihaimma | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1618/ | 15:06 |
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| mihaimma | and it's repeating every second.. respawning | 15:06 |
| Razique | ok, what select * from networks into nova database shows ? | 15:07 |
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| mihaimma | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1619/ | 15:08 |
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| Razique | ok, now your nova.conf file | 15:11 |
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| Razique | then /etc/network/interfaces file :) | 15:11 |
| mihaimma | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1620/ | 15:11 |
| Razique | so we'll have all the elements to understand your architecture | 15:11 |
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| mihaimma | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1621/ | 15:11 |
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| Razique | ok. First, why do you use an alias for the interface ? | 15:12 |
| kbringard | I have a question about live-migration and fault tolerance, if anyone is feeling brave :-) | 15:13 |
| kbringard | what happens if... you have everything setup for live-migration to work and have verified that you can live-migrate between running compute nodes | 15:13 |
| kbringard | then lets say that a compute node dies for some reason | 15:14 |
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| kbringard | can you live-migrate the instances that were running on that to another, still functioning, compute node | 15:14 |
| mihaimma | i edited that file, added alias for eth0.100 and inet manual | 15:16 |
| mihaimma | powered off the nodes, to see why nova-network wont start | 15:16 |
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| Razique | kbringard: don't know exactly, but if you use nova with libvrit, here is what happens | 15:18 |
| kbringard | I do use it with libvirt :-) | 15:18 |
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| Razique | libvirt copy the xml file to the other server, and when you run virsh-migrate command, transferts the RAM content (supposing both server have access to the VM) then shutdown the VM and power it on on the other side | 15:19 |
| Razique | but I don't know how this functionnality has been implemented into nova | 15:20 |
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| kbringard | hmm, I'll take a look at the code | 15:20 |
| alandman | Razique: For mihimma's output does nova-network expect that the network will have a project_id defined? | 15:20 |
| kbringard | I may just need to try it :-) | 15:20 |
| Razique | alandman: you right | 15:21 |
| Razique | mihaimma: do you have a project ? | 15:21 |
| Razique | and a network for it ? | 15:21 |
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| mihaimma | root@ccontroller.management.fdro:/var/log/nova 2 # nova-manage project list | 15:21 |
| mihaimma | mmaproject | 15:21 |
| mihaimma | i have the project created | 15:22 |
| mihaimma | dashboard functional | 15:22 |
| Razique | mihaimma: scrub the project and create a new network for it :) | 15:22 |
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| Razique | nova-manage project scrub mmaproject | 15:22 |
| Razique | nova-manage network create | 15:23 |
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| mihaimma | scrub project, delete network , create project, network , restarted relevant services, euca-describe-availability-zone verbose | 15:27 |
| mihaimma | works perfectly now | 15:27 |
| mihaimma | remains now to bring up the node and try to make it work | 15:27 |
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| Razique | mihaimma: nice :) | 15:28 |
| Razique | I knew it has to do with the network conf :p | 15:28 |
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| Razique | is the node located on another server ? | 15:29 |
| mihaimma | located | 15:29 |
| Razique | ? :D yes or no ? | 15:30 |
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| mihaimma | sry, is on another server | 15:30 |
| Razique | ok | 15:31 |
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| Razique | so first make sure the time is sync between two servers | 15:31 |
| mihaimma | on main server apt-get installed *( nova | 15:31 |
| Razique | installing a ntp server is better | 15:31 |
| mihaimma | on second server , installed only mnova-compute | 15:31 |
| mihaimma | i'll do it right now | 15:31 |
| Razique | ok | 15:32 |
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| Razique | I have to go, sorry, it's the end of work in France :D | 15:33 |
| kbringard | have a good weekend friend | 15:34 |
| mihaimma | no problem, same in romania | 15:34 |
| Razique | don't have internet @ home so won't be able to come back :D | 15:34 |
| mihaimma | have a nice weekend | 15:34 |
| Razique | enjoy your week-end guys :) | 15:34 |
| Razique | bye :) | 15:34 |
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| mihaimma | bye and thanks | 15:35 |
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| alexander | hello | 16:13 |
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| alexander | can anyone help a folk with some advice on nova-compute? | 16:13 |
| dsockwell | alexander: it's better if you just ask your question | 16:14 |
| alexander | yes, sorry | 16:14 |
| dsockwell | btw, stay in school | 16:14 |
| dsockwell | that's your advice ;) | 16:14 |
| alexander | i have 2 servers, one running all nova services and one having only nova-compute | 16:15 |
| alexander | instances are created, running, but can't ping , nor public, nor private ip's | 16:15 |
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| dsockwell | ah | 16:16 |
| dsockwell | look at iptables on your network controller | 16:16 |
| dsockwell | iptables -L; iptables -t nat -L | 16:16 |
| dsockwell | make sure you have all the interfaces you're supposed to | 16:16 |
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| alexander | nowhere to be seen any nova-compute in iptables | 16:17 |
| alexander | interfaces on nova-network : eth0.254, eth0.100 | 16:17 |
| alexander | flatdhcp, br100 created automatically | 16:17 |
| alexander | on nova-network server, compute is disabled | 16:18 |
| dsockwell | can you access the instances from the nova-compute servers? | 16:18 |
| alexander | no | 16:19 |
| alexander | can't ping them | 16:19 |
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| dsockwell | how do you know they're running? | 16:19 |
| alexander | euca-descibe-instances, and hybridfox too | 16:20 |
| alexander | get console output tells me network is unreachable\ | 16:20 |
| kbringard | just because the status says running, doesn't mean they're actually running... it just means the disk image has been copied to the compute node and the kvm command has been run | 16:20 |
| alexander | sorry for my grama | 16:20 |
| dsockwell | yeah, maybe they crashed and nova doesn't know | 16:21 |
| alexander | sorry for the grammar, i should follow your advice and stay in school :) | 16:21 |
| dsockwell | haha | 16:21 |
| kbringard | i'd work on getting VNC console to work | 16:21 |
| dsockwell | or just get the hypervisor to tell you their status instead of relying on nova | 16:21 |
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| kbringard | in theory it should be as easy as vncing to your compute node's IP:5900 | 16:21 |
| alexander | virsh list | 16:22 |
| dsockwell | in xen, i'd do xm list | 16:22 |
| alexander | instance 00000056 running\ | 16:22 |
| kbringard | yea, virsh list is good too | 16:22 |
| kasimir | This blog post seems to state that VirtualBox is a supported hypervisor for OpenStack: http://www.openstack.org/blog/2010/08/openstack-community-update/ | 16:22 |
| kbringard | you can also check /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-<instanceid>/console.log | 16:22 |
| kbringard | on the compute node | 16:22 |
| kasimir | I recompiled the Nova PPA libvirt packages with --with-vbox | 16:22 |
| alexander | great ideea, 2 sec | 16:22 |
| kasimir | but it seems that Nova keeps on failing | 16:22 |
| kasimir | would anybody be able to point me in a good direction? | 16:23 |
| kbringard | kasimir: sorry, I've never even tried anything other than KVM :-/ | 16:23 |
| dsockwell | kasimir: why are you using virtualbox? | 16:23 |
| dsockwell | I got told here that virtualbox was a bad idea. | 16:24 |
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| dsockwell | as a hypervisor for nova guests | 16:24 |
| kasimir | dsockwell: VirtualBox runs on Windows clients as well, whereas KVM (obviously) does not | 16:26 |
| kasimir | we've been using VMware for awhile but it's licensing is rather restrictive | 16:26 |
| dsockwell | you want to run nova-compute on windows? | 16:26 |
| kasimir | no, nova-compute is running on Ubuntu 10.04 LTS | 16:26 |
| alexander | console.log tells that the instance is waiting for metadata, | 16:26 |
| dsockwell | you want to run windows as a guest? | 16:27 |
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| kasimir | this cloud exposes it's VMs at various stages to independent machines | 16:27 |
| kasimir | its* | 16:27 |
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| kasimir | it's not quite a traditional cloud setup :) | 16:27 |
| dsockwell | how does it expose the VMs to independent machines? | 16:28 |
| kasimir | virsh is able to start / stop vbox images | 16:28 |
| kasimir | that part is in the process of being developed, however the idea is to snapshot the VM as it is running through various stages | 16:28 |
| kasimir | and then during the termination process save the resulting snapshotted files | 16:29 |
| kasimir | (along with the _base image) | 16:29 |
| kasimir | which works fine with KVM, but there will be some problem convincing those who will use this system to get another machine running Ubuntu | 16:30 |
| dsockwell | if it was me, i'd pursue qemu | 16:30 |
| kasimir | is there a reason VirtualBox isn't a good idea? | 16:31 |
| dsockwell | from what i was told, virtualbox support isn't developed as much as, for instance, qemu. I am not an authority though. | 16:32 |
| kasimir | I would be willing to work to add in support for it | 16:32 |
| kasimir | is the blog post misleading then? | 16:32 |
| kasimir | (http://www.openstack.org/blog/2010/08/openstack-community-update/) | 16:32 |
| dsockwell | I believe it may be | 16:33 |
| kasimir | is VirtualBox support in a bleeding edge version? | 16:33 |
| dsockwell | justinsb is the one you want to ask about that though | 16:33 |
| kasimir | (btw, thank you for your help!) | 16:33 |
| kasimir | does he frequent this channel? | 16:34 |
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| dsockwell | he tends to, yes | 16:35 |
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| kasimir | dsockwell: thanks for your help! | 16:36 |
| dsockwell | no problem. I have to ask, though, what are you doing with the snapshots? I presume it's not to force your secretary to make backups. | 16:38 |
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| alexander | ok, i tried to recreate security groups, to euca-authorize | 16:41 |
| alexander | no luck so far | 16:42 |
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| kbringard | alexander: in the console log, is the machine at the login prompt? | 16:45 |
| kbringard | meaning, is your issue that the machine is booted but you can't access it because of some networking problem, or can you not access it because the machine didn't finish booting? | 16:46 |
| alexander | datasource2.py critical : network is unreachable | 16:46 |
| alexander | than giving up on md after 1051 seconds | 16:47 |
| alexander | than cloudconfig/_init_py , line 270, get_data_source | 16:48 |
| alexander | it's the end of the console output | 16:48 |
| alexander | maverick-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz | 16:48 |
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| alexander | yes, there are networking problems\ | 16:52 |
| alexander | there must be something that i did wrong, some nova.conf line | 16:57 |
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| adam_g | are there any special steps needed to run smoketests on a single-node nova installation, or is there a way to increase verbosity to find out why certain tests are failing? | 17:25 |
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| smiley1010 | anyone one here running debian guests? | 17:59 |
| smiley1010 | I am still trying to find an image that I can use | 17:59 |
| alexander | try this one http://wiki.openstack.org/GettingImages | 18:02 |
| alexander | works for me | 18:02 |
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| smiley1010 | did you create a debian one...or just use the ubuntu or tty one? | 18:04 |
| smiley1010 | I have ubuntu ones working well...but I see no links to a working debian image anywhere | 18:05 |
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| dsockwell | you might just have to make one | 18:05 |
| dsockwell | it's not hard, there are scripts to run debootstrap for you | 18:06 |
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| smiley1010 | ok | 18:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795666 in swift "charset utf8 should be charset utf-8" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795666 | 18:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795680 in swift "Ratelimiting unit tests mistakenly fail on slow machines" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795680 | 18:52 |
| agoddard | anyone have a link to a good example of runnning openstack with an iSCSI SAN? | 18:52 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795683 in swift "SSL handshake can hang WSGI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795683 | 19:12 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #795685 in nova "OSAPI: images metadata missing from /images/detail and /images/<id> calls" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795685 | 19:12 |
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| donald650 | hi I am having trouble with ./nova.sh run | 20:23 |
| donald650 | anyone follow the instructions on https://github.com/vishvananda/novascript | 20:24 |
| donald650 | I am on a Windows host with Ubuntu VM client | 20:26 |
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| Dream | Hi, anyone there ? | 20:31 |
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| js_at_inap | seeing clue wrt swift ring expansion | 20:37 |
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| donald650 | hi anyone have any luck sitting up nova | 20:47 |
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| guest123 | hi, is there anyone alive and can help me with open stack ? :) | 20:47 |
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| med_BOS | just us zombies here.... | 20:50 |
| med_BOS | guest123, ask a more precise question please. | 20:50 |
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| donald650 | med_Bos I tried to followin the instructions for setting up Nova | 20:51 |
| donald650 | https://github.com/vishvananda/novascript | 20:51 |
| donald650 | I'm not getting to the rabbit server sreen | 20:51 |
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| guest123 | yes I see there are only zombies :( | 20:52 |
| guest123 | I'm starting to be interested about cloud and like to find an easy way to put a cloud in place into my infrastructure... so my question is; why openstack ? does it allow me to easily provision machines for customers (is it self service?) | 20:53 |
| guest123 | what are advantages of openstack vs openqrm for example ? | 20:54 |
| med_BOS | donald650, I haven't used the vishvananda scripts. | 20:55 |
| js_at_inap | fix my typo: "seeking" clue (help) wrt swift ring expansion :-) | 20:55 |
| donald650 | med_BOS whats a good way to get started with installing nova | 20:57 |
| donald650 | ive seen some lengthy setups to the simple one (vishvananda) | 20:57 |
| Dweezahr | 11.04 or 10.04, which one to chose for openstack? | 20:59 |
| med_BOS | topic | 20:59 |
| Dweezahr | well, yes, openstack is a project in progress, the releases dont work and are full of bugs | 20:59 |
| Dweezahr | so it is better to ask | 20:59 |
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| med_BOS | donald650, http://wiki.openstack.org/InstallInstructions is where I start. | 21:01 |
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| donald650 | med, thanks I'll take a look | 21:02 |
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| Dweezahr | okay, 10.04 is what large scale companies use, so I will take that one | 21:03 |
| AWR | what do you guys reccomend as far as networking setups when you want to automatically allocate public ips to the VMs? | 21:03 |
| AWR | is that not the good way to go about it? | 21:03 |
| guest123 | so med_bos, can I use openstack as provisionning sever ? | 21:04 |
| AWR | is it possible? | 21:04 |
| AWR | should i be using private ips for the VMs and the associating public ips? | 21:04 |
| dsockwell | Dweezahr: 10.04 is what i used | 21:04 |
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| Dweezahr | dsockwell, okay, thanks. | 21:05 |
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| dsockwell | except i couldn't use kvm so i am needing to switch to scientificlinux | 21:06 |
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| dsockwell | ubuntu 10.04 has weird issues with xen | 21:06 |
| Dweezahr | I use qemu | 21:06 |
| dsockwell | is qemu as fast as xen? | 21:06 |
| kbringard | I use ubuntu 10.10 with qemu/kvm | 21:06 |
| dsockwell | yeah kvm is officially supported in ubuntu | 21:07 |
| Dweezahr | Because in my test environment I only have vm's that run openstack inside it | 21:07 |
| dsockwell | no problems there | 21:07 |
| kbringard | soren mentioned that Ubuntu is putting Xen support back into 11.10 | 21:07 |
| kbringard | at which point I'm very interested in trying out Xen | 21:07 |
| dsockwell | that's good | 21:07 |
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| soren | kbringard: It's already in. | 21:07 |
| soren | kbringard: I uploaded it a couple of weeks ago, I think. | 21:08 |
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| kbringard | soren: fantastic | 21:08 |
| dsockwell | does openstack work OK on ubuntu 11.10 ? | 21:08 |
| kbringard | so there you go, if you want to temp fate by running an 11.10 alpha openstack, you can use xen | 21:08 |
| kbringard | haha | 21:08 |
| dsockwell | i thought it was built with 10.04 in mind | 21:08 |
| dsockwell | \o/ | 21:08 |
| dsockwell | hooray fate | 21:08 |
| kbringard | I run fairly large install on Ubuntu 10.10 with kvm and it works quite well | 21:09 |
| soren | dsockwell: I test Nova on all of Lucid, Maverick, Natty, and Oneiric. Works great. | 21:09 |
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| soren | dsockwell: I backport whatever is needed to make it work. | 21:10 |
| dsockwell | soren: cool. Do you happen to know if there's a known issue with xen 4 on maverick? | 21:10 |
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| soren | dsockwell: Apart from not existing in MAverick at all? | 21:10 |
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| dsockwell | yes | 21:10 |
| soren | dsockwell: Err.. | 21:10 |
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| soren | dsockwell: No, apart from that fact that it doesn't exist, there are no further problems. That's a rather debilitating defect, though. | 21:11 |
| dsockwell | so no? ok. I had compiled it and it gave me some bizarre behavior, and that's been bothering me. | 21:11 |
| soren | dsockwell: You know.. You can't use it. IT's not there. | 21:11 |
| soren | dsockwell: But apart from that, it's in great shape. | 21:11 |
| med_out | soren, do you test all the hypervisor (and hypervisor-ish) options on Ubuntu LMNO? | 21:12 |
| soren | med_out: Just KVM. | 21:12 |
| kbringard | rofl @ soren | 21:12 |
| med_out | nod. | 21:12 |
| dsockwell | but i can use another distro, i have high hopes for using openstack on el6 | 21:12 |
| soren | What's el6? | 21:12 |
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| kbringard | do we have an openstack quote wall of fame, that should go on it | 21:12 |
| js_at_inap | question: swift opinions, expand ring across rows or zones first? | 21:12 |
| dsockwell | any of the rhel6 clones. scientificlinux, particularly | 21:12 |
| soren | dsockwell: Why? | 21:13 |
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| dsockwell | because i'm too cheap to upgrade my P4 boxes | 21:15 |
| dsockwell | and I want to use xen | 21:15 |
| dsockwell | and i don't care if it exists or not | 21:15 |
| soren | What does that have to do with "el6"? We just established that Ubuntu will have Xen support. | 21:15 |
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| dsockwell | never mind, I originally asked if you, as an ubuntu person, knew anything about a crash I was experiencing. | 21:16 |
| dsockwell | clearly you don't, but thanks anyway | 21:16 |
| dsockwell | i appreciate the suggestion to use 11.10 | 21:16 |
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| AWR | guys? | 21:27 |
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| AWR | when using FlatDHCP mode and using private ips in the flat-range should VMs be able to make outbound connects throught the NAT or are them limited to the local netowkr they are on? | 21:43 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795755 in nova "OSAPI: images metadata response xml is incorrectly formatted" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795755 | 21:46 |
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| donald650 | I'm getting failed to spawnmykey when trying to run euca-run-instances ami-327d4cb9 -k mykey -t m1.tiny | 22:00 |
| donald650 | the failed to spawn mykey shows up when I try view the instances euca-describe-instances | 22:01 |
| donald650 | I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 | 22:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #795772 in nova "OSAPI: custom controller action serialization methods are ignored" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/795772 | 22:26 |
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| donald650 | where are the logs stored for nova? | 23:18 |
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| AWR | t donald650: depends how you install it | 23:27 |
| AWR | t donald650 i think there is a log def in the nova.conf | 23:28 |
| AWR | t donald650 so you can choose where it logs to | 23:28 |
| AWR | mine is set to "--logdir=/var/log/nova" | 23:29 |
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| donald650 | thank you! | 23:53 |
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| AWR | np bro | 23:53 |
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