Tuesday, 2011-06-14

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vishy_vinay: that doesn't look right03:15
vishyyou want the ip of nova-network as the gateway probably, or you can specify br100 if it is a compute host03:15
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uvirtbotNew bug: #797005 in nova "ChanceScheduler object has no attribute schedule_run_instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79700504:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #797017 in nova "Unexpected number of VDIs found during XenServer resize" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79701705:06
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shaibnHello :) I've been reading about OpenStack, to setup a EC2/S3 like env. in my office for our QA team. I currently have a script that connects to Amazon's API, and starts the various types of instances I need and using MetaData, I can then run a bash script automatically on each instance, to identify its role, and thus, start various services on the instance. How much different is OpenStack from Amazon for me to migrate over to OpenStack for our QA env?07:29
shaibnOur production will remain in Amazon, but for QA, I need the instances to be close and inside our local LAN... that's why I want to port the script that I use in Amazon, for OpenStack (if that's at all possible...)07:31
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uvirtbotNew bug: #797063 in nova "Distributed Scheduler failed to run up instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79706307:46
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Raziquedo someone has a link which explains how to create custom AMI's ? it doesn't seem that clear08:08
HugoKuoRazique , a clear AMI ?08:10
HugoKuopure OS distro ????08:11
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HugoKuoor a reconfigured instance ?08:11
HugoKuothere r many ways to do that for different purpose08:11
RaziqueHugoKuo: I'm trying to create a AMI from Debian, but every time I read a doc, it's not the same explanations, is there a "way" to do it, whatever your OS is ?08:11
RaziqueHugoKuo: from scratch, or from a modified instances, but there are not many instances ready to work, except ubuntu ones :)08:12
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HugoKuoDid u read about that on CSS group ?08:12
RaziqueHugoKuo: I did, but without success08:14
Raziquedid this way worked for you ?08:14
HugoKuono but I think it will work , the step is make sense08:14
Razique(If it is knows to be the right way, then I'll persist on that doc :)08:14
HugoKuoactually , from a modified instance is much easier08:15
Raziqueok, so I'll try to apply that method to a Debian instance08:15
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RaziqueHugoKuo: where can I find instances, appart the ubuntu ones ?08:16
HugoKuohttps://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=67819  did u check this for debian ?08:17
Raziquethat was one of my others thoughts, do Amazon tutos apply to nova ?08:18
Razique(as an old Eucalyptus user, I was a bit confused since methods were slightly differents)08:19
Raziqueok thanks, I'll try that link then :)08:19
RaziqueI'll see with annagentle if we should add a section in the doc dedicated to the images creation process08:19
HugoKuoI'm using eucalyptus before , there's no much difference in image management experience08:20
Raziquethe image format mattered as I recall, I saw that also in nova (some raw-disk-images errors, etc...)08:21
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radeckHi Is there a way to encrypt Swift ObjectStorage ?08:23
radeckI mean data in swift ?08:23
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reidracradeck: you can do it at os level08:29
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radeckYou mean before uploading files or encrypt drives ?08:30
reidracencrypt drives08:30
radeckIf I encrypt drives I still have access to data whch is not best solution for me08:31
reidracyou can use SSL for network communication with swift08:31
reidracI see, but you need access to data08:31
shaibnAnyone here responsible for the website? I found a mix up in links posted on the community page on openstack.org08:32
radeckyeah I think I've seen some where someone wrote patch for swift to encrypt blocks on swift level08:33
radeckI was just thinking if its possibble08:33
reidracradeck: and what's the advantage with disk level encription?08:33
radeckif encryption is done on swift level me as a provider won't have access to customer data08:35
radeckif I do encryption on disks I'll still be able to access data08:35
reidracradeck: then customer need to provide the data encrypted08:35
radeckyep I understand that what if swift encrypts it to disk so I can't see the data but if user logs in that will be decrypted by swift08:36
reidracso you have the key to decrypt?08:38
reidracI can't see the difference08:38
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radeckhttp://bit.ly/mqZDyY no key is the password08:38
reidracthe customer needs to trust the provider anyway08:38
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reidracwhat I mean is that the provider can decrypt the data anyway08:39
radecknope we doing backup for customers and they have they data encrypted with their key which we never have so we don't have access to data08:39
reidracbut you said they need to provide the key so swift decrypts the data08:39
reidracdidn't you?08:39
reidracsorry, I'm confused08:39
radeckno worries08:40
radeckif customer provides a key it is over htpps as you said and we won't know that key08:40
reidracdisk encryption it's interesting in case a disk or the whole server gets stolen08:41
reidracand prevents physical access to the data08:41
reidracradeck: you will, because swift gets that key08:41
reidracthat's a false feeling of security08:41
radeckoh sorry I know what you ean08:43
reidracare you running swift? the customer provides the password to swift, so...08:43
radeckyep but I can access people data locally if it was encrypted with their password I couldn't do it do i ?08:44
radeckI would have to know they key/password to decrypt data08:45
reidractemporally, because they need to provide you the key so swift can send the data back without encryption08:45
radeckyes but its send over https so it doesn't have to be encrypted08:46
radeckbut I know what you mean but this being kind of false :/08:46
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reidracyou're saying the customers that the data is encrypted anytime on disk, and you don't have the key08:48
shaibnHello :) I've been reading about OpenStack, to setup a EC2/S3 like env. in my office for our QA team. I currently have a script that connects to Amazon's API, and starts the various types of instances I need and using MetaData, I can then run a bash script automatically on each instance, to identify its role, and thus, start various services on the instance. How much different is OpenStack from Amazon for me to migrate over to OpenStack for our QA env? O08:48
reidracbut when the customer wants some data back, you're asking for the day and decrypting the data!08:48
shaibnur production will remain in Amazon, but for QA, I need the instances to be close and inside our local LAN... that's why I want to port the script that I use in Amazon, for OpenStack (if that's at all possible...)08:48
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reidracs/asking for the day/asking for the key/08:50
RaziqueHugoKuo: After I tried the amazon way, here is the nova-compute log : http://paste.openstack.org/show/1635/08:50
Raziqueeuca-get-console-output gives nothing, and despite it's "running" state, I can't neither ping nor ssh it08:51
radeckredirac: but customer would put that in the web/desktop software which connects over https to get data08:51
radeckand then swift decrypts data and send it back to custome08:51
radeckis there something wrong with this way of doing it ?08:52
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reidracradeck: what prevents you to store the password when swift gets it?08:52
radeckoh yes but we wouldn't as it wold be against policy08:53
radeckbut I know what you mean08:53
HugoKuoI though it almost same thing :<08:53
HugoKuoRazuque : I'll try to create a debian AMI later08:54
radeckredirac:so you sayng that only way of dong it is encrypting on client level?08:55
RaziqueHugoKuo: thanks, i'll to understand that08:55
Raziquetry to understand why it ain't working :(08:55
reidracradeck: yep, I think so08:55
HugoKuoRazique : I do wonder know if I really know about build AMI from scratch08:58
RaziqueIf I figure out with Debian, I thnik I'll figure out for all Linux "most-used" distros08:59
Raziqueso I'll write into the doc section08:59
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salmanearnEnter passphrase for key 'mykey.priv09:07
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salmanearnAny one know how to resolve this !!!!!!09:07
ziyadbno, you're doomed for all eternity09:08
Raziquesalmanearn: looks like a passphrase has been set on the private key :D09:08
ziyadbheh, no shit09:08
salmanearnbut i didnt do any thing09:09
Raziquesalmanearn: what command did you use in order to create the key ?09:09
salmanearn2 min09:10
salmanearneuca-add-keypair mykey > mykey.priv09:11
salmanearnchmod 600 mykey.priv09:11
Raziqueweird :/09:12
Raziqueleme try09:12
salmanearn<Razique> Shall i try to do again see if the problem continue09:12
salmanearnthanks matee09:12
Raziquewell you right, It did not ask for any passphrase09:13
Raziqueat what stage are you required to enter the pass ?09:13
salmanearnlast time it worked fine09:14
salmanearni followed the following09:15
Raziqueweird page09:15
Raziquewiki.openstack.org/RunningNova :)09:16
Raziqueok, but when were you asked to provide the pass ?09:16
salmanearnit did not ask me for any pass09:17
salmanearnat no stage09:17
salmanearnboth the pages are same09:19
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salmanearn<Razique> soory miss read your question09:24
salmanearneuca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default ssh -i mykey.priv root@
salmanearnsoon after that09:25
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Raziquehere is what you must do09:30
Razique1- euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default09:30
Raziqueat that stage, there is no need for the private key09:31
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Raziquewhat I can't figure is why you are asked a password when you use the key actually :s09:32
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salmanearnthanks will let you know in a bit09:38
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zykes-is anyone here using cobbler for installs ?10:02
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ziyadbI am *still* not clear on what glance's functions are. from what I understand however it appears to be somewhat of an image backup service that could be used in coordination with nova to backup instance images?11:52
ziyadbanother thing I am not clear on is that it's ability to be used as a front-end cache to swift, this would remove the previous conception I had of it and make it something else?11:53
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romanshi!I have a problem with permissions on files:"disk" and "console.log".12:04
romans-rw-r----- 1 root root          0 Jun  9 13:46 console.log12:04
romans-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   35651584 Jun  9 13:46 disk12:04
romans-rw-r--r-- 1 nova nobody     1506 Jun  9 13:46 libvirt.xml12:04
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romansI think they must be "qemu qemu" or something like12:04
romansVMs didn't start:(12:05
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romansmay be someone know where in sources nova create a "disk" file12:06
romansI saw in /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py12:07
romansbut didn't find how nova create a "disk" file12:08
Raziquehi all, what's the method in order to create an image from a running instance ?12:10
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kpeppleziyadb_: glance is a image repository service. it stores images in a variety of backends (most notably swift) and metadata about images in a database. think of it as your image catalog which can be queried. it will also serve images for your compute nodes.12:42
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RaziqueHi, another silly question :D what is the command in order to change an instance's flavor ?13:00
kpeppleRazique: do you mean resizing a running instance ?13:00
Raziquekpepple: I do mean that yup13:01
Razique(I always found the word flavour for nova funny :D )13:01
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kpeppleRazique: i believe you need to use the openstack api resize13:04
Raziquekpepple: don't euca2ools provide such action ?13:05
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Raziquekpepple: you are right : http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.0/content/ch04s03s03.html13:05
kpeppleRazique: don't think so, but let me check the code here ... i don't think the EC2 api has this command13:05
kpeppleRazique: yeah, nothing in nova's EC2 API code that would let you do that13:07
Raziquethanks kpepple, is there any command that will allow to do that or atm, I have to use the openstack api ?13:08
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* kpepple looks through the nova codebase13:11
* Razique thanks kpepple 13:12
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kpeppleRazique: python-novaclient (https://launchpad.net/python-novaclient) appears to let you do this ... but you'll need to pull it down first. there might also be some config involved ... haven't used it. jk0 wrote it -- he's on this channel frequently ...13:15
Raziqueok, I've been able to run a Debian instance, I use that one : http://open.eucalyptus.com/wiki/EucalyptusUserImageCreatorGuide_v1.613:15
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Raziquealright, thanks kpepple :D I'll see how I can use it, unfortunately, I don't know that much about Python (yet)13:17
kpeppleRazique: check out the github page for python-novaclient (https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient), it seems like a pretty straightforward command line tool (like eucatools except for openstack api)13:19
salmanearn<Razique> Hi13:19
Raziquekpepple: awesome :D thanks a ton!13:19
kpeppleRazique: np13:19
Raziquehey salmanearn, figured out ur key issue yet ? :D13:20
salmanearn<Razique> hmmm well still exploring13:20
salmanearn<Razique> do you know the command to restart the instanse13:21
Raziquesalmanearn: euca-reboot-instance $instance_id13:21
Raziqueeuca-reboot-instanceS $instance_id13:21
salmanearnok thanks13:22
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salmanearn <Razique> you mean like euca-reboot-instanceS $i-0000000e13:23
Raziqueexactly (witouht the dollar sign :D )13:23
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ziyadb_kpepple glance *will* serve images for my compute (nova) nodes? So it's required to run nova?13:30
kpeppleziyadb_: not required (you can also store images other places like S3) but most nova installs will use glance IMHO13:32
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ziyadb_simple enough13:34
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RaziqueActually, it's like i've a disk issue (fstab) when I run custom instances : http://paste.openstack.org/show/1636/13:43
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guyvdb_Hi, I am just starting to read the compute admin guide. I want to set up a small (tiny) cloud to gain some experience. Any suggestions on which hypervision to use? Can I set up everything on a single machine (my workstation) with KVM? Is this feasible to to get a feeling of openstack?14:08
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annegentleguyvdb_: yes, KVM is a great choice, works well14:09
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annegentleguyvdb_: and it's the default setting, too. your approach is good, start small, get the basics.14:16
guyvdb_yea.. there is a lot to learn14:19
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Raziquehey annegentle14:19
RaziqueI was wondering if we could add a section in the doc which explains how to create customs AMI's14:20
Raziquei'm battling against that for 2 days, due to lack of doc :D14:20
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guyvdb_one thing I have trouble getting my head around is disk storage. I understand the concept of object store, but if I have a database running on an instance... where are the data files stored? Is there a block device that can be associated with the instance?14:21
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annegentleRazique: I'm working with the CSSOSS team to bring over their chapter about creating custom images14:23
kpeppleguyvdb_: nova provides a volume service through the nova-volume daemon which is like Amazon's EBS. it provides block storage which you can attach or detach from your running instances.14:23
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annegentleRazique: will that work? You want to help bring it over? They've given permission and it's CC licensed.14:23
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guyvdb_kpepple: thx14:23
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Raziqueannegentle: kewl, they provided some useful links I'm using to validate the process into Nova14:25
Raziqueat least I could add my contribution if some provided steps require subtles changes :)14:26
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guyvdb_In setting up my first tiny cloud for testing... what is the best network option? I assume flat is the easiest.14:29
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Raziqueguyvdb_: flat < flatDHCP < VLAN14:30
nhmguyvdb_: I use flatdhcp myself.14:30
RaziqueVLAN requires a switchs that let pass VLANS for instance14:30
guyvdb_ok.. so flat of flatdhcp is for me. If i am setting up on a single node... is flat easier than flatdhcp (i have no dhcp server running)14:31
guyvdb_of = or14:31
Raziqueguyvdb_: the dhcp server is configured by nova :)14:33
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radeckhi on Swift Object Storage I  can se you can setup any matadata tag on Object can you set arbitrary  metadata on Account and Container as well ?14:39
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kpeppleradeck: I didn't think so but this bug (https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/616024) says that you can ... at least you could14:44
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radeckjus a quick another one how Swift treats failed uploads is the file never written or is it removed there is no way o resume failed upload?15:18
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uvirtbotNew bug: #797250 in nova "OSAPI: 500 on POST /servers with malformed entity" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79725015:21
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thickskinhi guys...15:24
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thickskinis there someone who know about this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/79700515:25
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thickskinI`ve never seen the error message.15:26
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LiteHi, the swift-object-auditor is constantly reading with 20M/s and is slowing down the server hdd. Is it possible to run swift without the object-auditor, or decrease its activity?15:49
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LiteI've found how to do it. Thanks anyway15:56
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Raziqueannegentle: Have to go, I'm validating the last steps of the CSSOSS procedure15:56
Raziquei'll let know here how it's going15:56
Raziquebye all15:56
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uksysadminhey all - anybody currently attending the openstack session at Velocity?16:03
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mspoanyone in the openstack talk in velocity right now?16:20
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uksysadminmspo, yeah - loving the beard on Todd. #jealous16:20
mspoI like how the mic is in the beard16:20
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uksysadminall speakers from now on should have fake beards and do this16:21
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NashTrashHello Openstack!16:31
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NashTrashWhen I try to create a VM instance it is getting stuck in the scheduling state.  All of the logs look clean.  Any thoughts on additional places to look for debug?16:32
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chompinghi all16:33
alandmanNashTrash: Are all of your services looking right when you do a nova-manage service list?16:34
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NashTrashalandman: nova-manage service list = all good16:36
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alandmanNashTrash: What's in the scheduler log?16:37
uksysadminNashTrash, how much ram do you have? I've been out the game for a few months but I've seen it just spin when memory is low.16:37
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NashTrashalandman: Here is the nova-scheduler.log — http://paste.openstack.org/show/1637/16:38
NashTrashuksysadmin: Should have plenty of RAM nothing else is on that node currently.16:39
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uksysadminWhat's the VM instance - did you start off with a really basic linux like ttylinux?16:41
NashTrashuksysadmin: I am using an Ubuntu 11.04 server image that has worked well for me before.16:41
NashTrashIt seems like the request to create an instance got routed to the compute node and then dissappeared.16:41
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alandmanNashTrash: It does. What's in the compute log?16:43
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uksysadmindf on the compute node...?16:44
NashTrashalandman: Nothing at all.  The compute log doesn't even show that it received a request16:45
NashTrashuksysadmin: drive is only 18% full (500GB)16:45
mspois your network functional?16:46
NashTrashmspo: As far as I can tell.16:46
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NashTrashI might be getting some odd errors in the rabbit logs, but I am not sure how to decipher16:47
mspoNashTrash: if something is getting -lost- it feels like a message or something else might be odd16:47
uksysadminwas gonna say it looks like the message hasn't really been understood by your compute node... have you turned it off and back on again?! ;-)16:47
NashTrashuksysadmin: I have not restarted the compute nodes.  Some of them have active VMs, so I don't really want to do a reboot.16:49
msporabbitmqctl status16:49
NashTrashmspo: Looks OK, or at least nothing glaringly obvious16:50
uksysadminbut this went to a specific compute node... are there any instances on it?16:51
mspoNashTrash: can you interact with your currently running systems?16:51
NashTrashmspo: Yes.  The currently running instances seem fine.16:51
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NashTrashuksysadmin: No, there are no instances on the compute node the VM got scheduled to.16:51
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NashTrashOk.  Figured it out (partially at least).  My rabbit server went down this morning and had to be rebooted.16:56
NashTrashThe nova-compute services don't receive the message to start an instance if they haven't been restarted since the rabbit died.16:57
NashTrashSo, I wonder if nova-compute ever periodically checks to make sure it has a good connection to the rabbit16:57
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heckjNateTrash - there's a fair bit of monitoring to OpenStack that isn't really embedded anywhere yet16:59
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NashTrashheckj: Yeah.  I do find it a bit odd though that something as vital as the rabbitmq connection is not checked more actively.17:07
heckjNateTrash - It's still early in the project, and there's a lot of components and mechanisms that we all want to put in place as yet. Operationalizing the tech is coming along well, but there's still room for growth17:09
NashTrashheckj: Fair enough.17:11
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NashTrashContinuing my rabbitmq saga.  I obviously need to restart nova-compute on all of my nodes.  What happens to the VMs currently running on a node when I restart its nova-compute?17:35
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heckjNashTrash: should keep truckin' without issue.17:39
NashTrashheckj: The VMs will keep running, but when the nova-compute service restarts does it bring all of the network setup (i.e. iptables) back to the correct state?17:40
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devcamcarNashTrash: work is being done to improve rabbitmq handling in nova: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/79462718:06
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NashTrashdevcamcar: Ha, I just opened a bug on this exact issue.  I will mark as dup and close.  Thanks.18:16
devcamcardevcamcar: hah, sorry i didn't hit you up 10 mins earlier then :)18:16
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uvirtbotNew bug: #797338 in nova "Loss of RabbitMQ requires restart of nova-compute (dup-of: 794627)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/79733818:21
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MarkusWPHRorgWarmest hello to all in the Openstack community18:42
MarkusWPHRorgI am new, but eager to contribute18:42
MarkusWPHRorgand I pack a laundry list of issues I could use help with too of course!18:42
NashTrashFire away18:43
r3sk3rHi, Is there perhaps anyone here who can comment on the status of the LUNR blueprint?18:44
MarkusWPHRorgWell, I'm trying to use curl to hit the api and start an instance. the docs at http://docs.openstack.org/bexar/openstack-object-storage/developer/content/ch04s01.html say "you will first need to obtain a authorization token"18:44
r3sk3rIt doesn't appear here yet:18:44
MarkusWPHRorgbut it doesn't say how you get this token in the first place18:45
MarkusWPHRorgI'm running nova on ubuntu 11.4 btw18:45
NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: The docs you are referring to are for the object store (Swift) which is completely separate from VM instances (Nova).18:46
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MarkusWPHRorgOh ok.18:47
NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: Have you tried using Euca2ools to start instances?18:47
MarkusWPHRorgyes. That works fine. I need to be able to do it via RESTful API though18:47
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NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: Take a look through the Nova API docs (http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.1/content/index.html) they should be more what you are looking for.18:49
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NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: What is your ultimate use case for the API?18:49
MarkusWPHRorgTo integrate with an existing a web interface.18:50
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MarkusWPHRorgIn order to "sell" openstack to the folks I work with18:51
NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: Hmm.  I would maybe take a look at the openstack-dashboard project.  They have a bunch of code (django + boto) that demonstrate how to interface the system.18:51
MarkusWPHRorgthey want to be able to provision a whole LAMP stack from the API18:51
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MarkusWPHRorgYa, I'm running the dashboard now, but I can't figure out how it does the authentication18:52
MarkusWPHRorgSo this is from a TCPdump of port 8773 on my nova box: GET /services/Admin/?AWSAccessKeyId=61c0c959-30a6-47a2-a354-dd134435ec23%3Adcloud-proj&Action=DescribeProjects&SignatureMethod18:56
MarkusWPHRorgThis is after I refresh my dashboard, logged in as my project admin user18:56
MarkusWPHRorgwhere is it getting this AWSAccesskey from?18:57
NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: You set it in the local_settings.py file18:57
MarkusWPHRorgoh you're right18:57
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MarkusWPHRorgI thought the auth was supposed to be part of the headers though?18:59
MarkusWPHRorgIn this case it's appended to the url18:59
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NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: I think for Nova it is part of the URL, while for Swift it is in the headers.19:00
NashTrashMarkusWPHRorg: Really not certain though.19:00
NashTrashAFK for a bit...19:01
MarkusWPHRorgok. Check this out: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/developer/openstack-compute-api-1.1/content/ch03s01.html19:01
MarkusWPHRorgIt says "The authentication scheme used is determined by the provider of the OpenStack Compute system. Please contact your provider to determine the best way to authenticate against this API. "19:01
MarkusWPHRorgWhat if I AM the service provider? Now what the hell do I do? ;)19:02
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annegentleMarkusWPHRorg: heh. Good point.19:03
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MarkusWPHRorgannegentle: :)19:03
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kd926I'm trying to upload an image to glance and I am getting an [Errno 111] ECONNREFUSED19:23
kd926any ideas19:23
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MarkusWPHRorgkd926: how are you trying to do the upload?19:27
dspanoWould 500GB of space be plenty for a cloud controller in a small private cloud? I was planning on running everything except for compute on two ha servers replicated with DRBD.19:27
MarkusWPHRorg<---total openstack newbie (Just FYI)19:27
kd926MarkusWPHRorg: using glance-upload. I got past that however I get another error:  (OperationalError) attempt to write a readonly database19:28
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MarkusWPHRorgjust "spitballin'" here, but it sounds like a permissions thing19:30
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MarkusWPHRorgnew question: Public IP addresses and openstack projects19:52
MarkusWPHRorgIn the docs it says you have to add "--public_interface=vlan100" to your nova.conf19:52
MarkusWPHRorgwhich I did19:52
MarkusWPHRorgthe problem is, the public network is on a different physical interface from the one where my openstack nodes and instances are running19:53
MarkusWPHRorghow do19:53
MarkusWPHRorghow do I associate vlan100 with my public interface?19:54
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MarkusWPHRorg Is there like a seperate config file for the openstack network process where you can set things like that?20:01
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vishyMarkusWPHRorg: probably you don't want to do that.  You want to set public interface to whatever your public interface is20:09
vishyif it is eth1 for example, set it to eth120:10
MarkusWPHRorgOk cool. I tried that but wasn't sure if it was right so I switched it back20:10
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MarkusWPHRorgWill is automagically allocate public ip's from the "pool"20:11
MarkusWPHRorgok cool. does it create a seperate sub-interface for each ip?20:11
vishyyou have to create the pool via nova-manage floating create20:11
vishyno, it just adds the ip to the --public_interface20:12
MarkusWPHRorgand finally, does it set the iptables rules or do I need to do that seperately?20:12
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MarkusWPHRorgyeah - that's what I meant by "the pool"20:12
MarkusWPHRorgthe floating ones20:12
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MarkusWPHRorgfor NATting that is - does it set up the NAT rules on it's own?20:13
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vishyit does the natting rules20:14
MarkusWPHRorgawesome. Thank you very much!20:15
MarkusWPHRorgat least now I know how it is SUPPOSED to work :)20:15
MarkusWPHRorgnow I can figure out what to do to actually get it working20:15
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MarkusWPHRorgThank you for the great info20:22
MarkusWPHRorgSometimes it's hard when you don't know what behavior to expect as a norm from openstack20:23
MarkusWPHRorg<--- Total Openstack newbie20:23
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GeoDudhigh five, fellow Openstack newbie20:24
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MarkusWPHRorgHere's an easy question(I think): Is there a command or something you can do to see what instances are on which compute nodes in a multi-node setup?20:30
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vishywell you can do euca-describe-instances :)20:35
vishyif you are an admin it will show you the node20:35
vishyyou can also do a sql query: select id, host from instances where deleted=020:35
MarkusWPHRorgOh ok. I didn't realize the node was in the output there20:38
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MarkusWPHRorgOh wait - is that it there in the parenthesis along with the project name?20:39
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vishyit is in parenthesis20:45
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MarkusWPHRorgQuestion: Do both br100 and it's ensalved interface(eth0 in this case) have to have their own ip addresses?21:49
MarkusWPHRorgAfter a reboot, I can't talk to any of my instances. br100 has an ip address, eth0 does not21:50
MarkusWPHRorgeth0 is "enslaved" by br10021:50
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MarkusWPHRorgI'm getting no route to host when I try to connect to a running instance22:51
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MarkusWPHRorgit worked before a reboot22:51
Ryan_LaneDid you reboot the instance via the API, or via reboot on the instance?22:52
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MarkusWPHRorgno I rebooted the physical host22:52
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MarkusWPHRorgthe compute node22:52
MarkusWPHRorgIt says it's running but I can't get to it22:53
MarkusWPHRorgbr100 has an ip address22:53
MarkusWPHRorgeth0(enslaved) does not22:53
MarkusWPHRorgcould that be the problem?22:53
Ryan_LaneIs it the network node and the compute node?22:54
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Ryan_LaneIs the instance using volume backed storage?22:55
MarkusWPHRorgI think so - how can I find out?22:55
MarkusWPHRorgthe instance show as "running"22:56
MarkusWPHRorgI just have "no route to host" when I try to connect22:56
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Ryan_LaneCheck to see if it is running on the host using22:59
Ryan_LaneUsing virsh22:59
MarkusWPHRorgOk, I'm in virsh, but not sure what I'm querying for23:03
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MarkusWPHRorgnova-volume is running23:06
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MarkusWPHRorgthese were running fine before, and then I started working on associating public ip addresses with my project/instance, I rebooted the system for some reason(which I forget now) and suddenly I can't ping/ssh to my running instnaces23:08
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MarkusWPHRorgThank you for the suggestionjs though - never seen virsh before and it looks quite useful23:14
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MarkusWPHRorgOk this is weird23:44
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MarkusWPHRorgWhen I use the dashboard to launch new instances, I can get to them fine23:44
MarkusWPHRorgmy older instances, which are also running, I can not get to23:44
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MarkusWPHRorgI'm on a two node setup23:44
MarkusWPHRorgOh that's weird - suddenly the other ones work now two23:46
MarkusWPHRorgDoes nova-network do something to the system network setup when a new instance comes online?23:48
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MarkusWPHRorgOk different topic23:50
MarkusWPHRorgLets say I have a project set up with a nice little LAMP stack or similar running on some instances, a few attached volumes for storage, etc.23:51
MarkusWPHRorgIs there a way to "clone" that project?23:51
MarkusWPHRorgAnd put new IP addrs etc on the "clone?"23:52
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