Monday, 2011-07-11

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winston-dHi, guys.  Is there anyone knows about 'China OpenStack Launch ¨C September 3 in Shanghai, China'?01:24
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vodanh86as my deployment, there are two physical servers: node1, and node2. both run nova-compute and nova-volume. It means that an instance or a volume can either be created on the node1 or the node202:11
vodanh86If I have an instance (i-1) run on the node1. when create a volume to attach to instance i-1, can i specific the node (node1 or node2) to create volume.02:11
vodanh86because, network traffic between node1 & node2 is low (100Mb), so I want to create volume on the node1 and attach to instance run on the node1.02:11
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iOutBackDngoberto-: what gets me is why if configuring a controller node, it even requires kvm and crap04:02
berto-hmm, not sure.  i'm still using a single-box setup.04:03
iOutBackDngoberto-: did you do a swift / glane config ?04:05
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berto-iOutBackDngo: no, have not yet.04:55
vodanh86can i resize a running instance ( change instance type )? Example I want to extent instance's storage space, which is best way?04:56
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vishyvodanh86: there isn't really a way to specify the host06:58
vishythere was an admin option to force a volume to a specific host, but it isn't there at the moment06:58
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vishyvodanh86: and you can't resize running, the resize command will basically recreate the instance06:58
vishyvodanh86: you could manually add a new drive i suppose06:59
vodanh86vishy "add a new drive i suppose!" what do you mean.07:02
vishywell essentially doing what nova-volume does07:02
vishyadd an additional disk to the instance with virsh attach disk07:03
vishyhacky, but if you absolutely need more space, it could work07:03
vodanh86it is so difficult to do :(.07:09
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vodanh86i think, extending storage space is high-frequency07:12
vodanh86i unable do that for all instance :(07:13
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vodanh86and, is there  other way extend instance storage space?07:18
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HugoKuo_does any one familiar with making UEC-tarball of a running instance ?07:56
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RaziqueHey HugoKuo_ :)08:51
HugoKuo_Razique, thanks08:51
RaziqueIt's easy, leme find you the link08:51
Raziquebasically : you install euca2ools on the running instance, send the keys on a partition that will be excluded from the building process, and add into the rc.local some pre-instructions08:52
HugoKuo_Razique , thanks for you info08:53
HugoKuo_That's rebundle process08:53
HugoKuo_I know the approach to rebundle image . But I need to pack it as a UEC tarball08:53
HugoKuo_make it more protable08:53
HugoKuo_such as you download the UEC-image from UEC site08:54
RaziqueHugoKuo_: ok, so have a look on this :
HugoKuo_I had a check of this link , but it did not mention "repacking"08:56
HugoKuo_just how to publish the UEC into your infrastructure08:57
HugoKuo_Whatever , thanks for your info . If there's any further suggestion . plz feel free to tell me :>08:57
RaziqueHugoKuo_: So I don't really understand what you are looking for :)08:59
RaziqueYou trying to build an image uec-style right ?08:59
Raziqueso u'll end-up with a compressed tar.gz which will contains a kernel and the image ?09:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #808675 in nova "DescribeVolumes fails for volume id which is no longer exist. " [Undecided,New]
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HugoKuo_Razique , sorry for my poor engilish :>   uec-style image is what I need :>09:06
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HugoKuo_Razique  , thanks10:22
HugoKuo_Razique , I just accomplished to bundle a UEC-style tarball10:23
RaziqueHugoKuo_: great :) what method did u use ?10:23
HugoKuo_Razique , Just euca-bundle-vol  and copy the img body to same path with kernel and loader of old UEC tarball folder10:24
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RaziqueHugoKuo_:  nice :)  I should build images too10:26
Raziqueeven if I scripted the installation of a fresh instance, always better to have pre-configured images10:27
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doude_Hi all, which role(s) must have a user to create a security group in a project ?12:21
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doude_I try to create a sg with a projectmanger user with netadmin role: He isn't authorized12:23
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fulchi, i read in the manual that XenServer is supported by Openstack12:40
fulcsince it's a whole distro, does that mean i install xensever on the compute machines and ubuntu on the controller?12:40
fulci have to use xen since my machines dont support hardware virtualization12:40
fulcor even better, does openstack support xen-enabled ubuntu?12:41
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aia21Hi, I have recently set up an Openstack Swift Object Store with 5 storage nodes and 1 proxy server and am trying to get to grips with using it.13:40
aia21I have so far been unable to find a command/way to see how much space is used on each disk and how much space is remaining.13:40
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aia21Is there such a command or do I need to ssh into each storage server and run df, i.e. look for myself?13:41
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notmynameaia21: df is a good way to do that13:51
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aia21notmyname: thanks, I was just wondering if there is a swift command to query the whole cluster of storage nodes as the same time13:55
aia21looks like there isn't and we need to develop some scripts that do that sort of things13:55
fulcdoes Openstack support Xen?13:56
fulcI mean pure xen, not XenServer13:56
aia21I am just surprised that there aren't scripts already as we can't be the only people who want to know how space is being utilised, etc...13:56
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fulcany idea? :)13:57
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huslagei added a compute node,  and the controller tried to start a VM on it, but nothing happened…it doesn't appear that the new node even got the message to start the new machine.14:07
huslagewhat should i look at14:07
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notmynameaia21: a combination of dsh and df and standard monitoring software is what we use at rackspace14:21
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sandywalshanyone remember what the solution to was? (I'm still searching for the bug report)14:53
sandywalshah, never mind14:54
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aia21notmyname: thanks, I had not come across dsh before, that looks useful.15:24
notmynameaia21: our ops guys introduced it to me, too. It is very nice :-)15:25
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aia21notmyname: yes, it looks brilliant and Ubuntu has a package for it already so adding it proved trivial!  (-:15:34
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* aia21 heads home...15:35
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tux78I am getting ready to install openstack compute.  What should I keep in mind in order to choose between Glance or nova-objectstore service? What are the advantages of using Glance?15:47
jatsrttux78: glance is for machine images and if you have a group of > 1 physical box you will need it15:48
nhmtux78: I'm a bit out of the loop, but afaik the only way you can use compute on multiple nodes with nova-objectstore is if you NFS mount whereever you store the images.15:48
jatsrtmaybe you are wondering between nova-objectsotre and swift?15:49
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jatsrtyou can back glance with either15:49
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jatsrtI run a 10 node cluster, I do not use the "object store", aka S# type functionality, so I use just plain ole nova-objectsotre and glance to feed the machine images15:50
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heckjtux78: choose Glance - nova-objectstore is getting deprecated in favor of it.15:51
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tux78should Glance be on a different server? or does it matter?15:52
jatsrttux78: doesn't matter too much, but make sure you have enough disk space for you machine images15:55
tux78nhm: so for multiple nodes, I need to have a NFS setup? I thought it is all done through REST api.15:55
nhmtux78: only if you are using nova-objectstore.  I use glance and don't have to use NFS.15:56
tux78ok. that make sense.15:56
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heckjtux78: can be, but doesn't critically need to be on sep server. I'm using it on the same node as one of my controllers15:57
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tux78Regarding disk usage...I have 10 nodes with 500 GB each. I now have the base RHEL 6 installed with 2 GB swap and 20 GB for the root partition. If i want to go with Glance, I am think just curve out a partition in one of the nodes for glance? any suggestions?16:05
heckjtux78: I just used some of the existing filesystem (what you have as a 20GB root partition) for glance. You could tear off another partition if you wanted16:06
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NashTrashHello All.17:06
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NashTrashHas anything changed from Diablo-1 to Diablo-2 in the way the instance metadata request is handled?17:07
NashTrashI just upgrade to D2 and now instances fail looking for metadata17:07
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anpI have installed openstack nova using this manual:17:13
anpbut on the final step17:14
anpwhen trying to copy nova-api.conf17:14
anpI could not find nova-api.conf anywhere in the system17:14
anpand I am stuck here17:14
anpI tried the installation from scratch for the second time17:15
anpand same issues17:15
anpcan someone help me17:15
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anpis there any chances to bzr clone lp:nova missing the nova-api.conf17:18
anpor this is created by the installation17:18
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anpsome one pleasre help me17:45
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anpnova-api.conf is missing on CentOS installation17:46
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heckjanp: it's not in /opt/nova/etc/nova-api.conf?18:01
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anpheckj: no18:02
anpi did a a find command18:02
anpit's no where in the system18:02
heckjanp: which branch did you check out while following those commands? trunk?18:02
anpbzr branch lp:nova /opt/nova18:02
heckjyeah, that's trunk...18:03
heckjanp: I don't think the base configs are in there anymore - externalized to another package I thought.18:03
anpwhether the file should be there by the check out itself?18:03
anpor it's created during the installation?18:03
heckjanp: the only config by default there is the api-paste.ini - none of the others are there by default.18:04
anpI used this link:
anpi have the api-paste.ini there18:04
heckjanp: yeah, that's what I'm following. I think it was written earlier when there were some example configs in the trunk18:04
anpso I have done python26 install18:05
anpnext step is cp /opt/nova/etc/nova-api.conf /etc/nova18:05
anpso what should I do now18:05
anpcan you please help18:05
anpI am on this for some time18:05
anpand my company policy needs to me to use only CentOS18:05
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heckjanp: You might have to create one from hand. The installer script I've been using ( does that.18:06
heckjanp: here's a base that I'm using for an all-in-one install - you'll need to update paths and IP addresses to match your own environ:
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heckjanp: Note - that's my nova.conf, not nova-api.conf. nova-api.conf is just a subset of that set, but it won't hurt if you point it at the same18:08
anpI am confused heckj18:08
anpbut thanks for the help18:08
anplet me read that18:08
anpso you mean create a nova.conf manually18:09
anpand do this18:09
anpInstalling nova-debug script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-spoolsentry script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-volume script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-scheduler script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-direct-api script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-import-canonical-imagestore script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-objectstore script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-network script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-compute script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-api script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-logspool script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-dhcpbridge script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-vncproxy script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-console script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-instancemonitor script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-manage script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling nova-ajax-console-proxy script to /usr/bin18:09
anpInstalling stack script to /usr/bin18:09
anpis this nova-api script under /usr/bin is for creating the config?18:10
anpheckj: one more help18:11
heckjanp: just a sec - meeting with another person right now18:12
anpheckj: oh sorry please carry on18:12
anpI will wait18:12
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heckjanp: back18:15
heckjnova-api under bin is for running the nova-api service.18:15
anpheckj: I am confused about the steps18:16
anpdo you mean to create a nova-api.conf manually?18:17
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heckjanp: once you've done the install, you still need configurations for your environment - and they'll need to match some commands that you'll run by hand using "nova-manage" to create projects, networks, etc.18:17
heckjanp: once you've worked through it, I recommend editing that wiki page and adding in your notes for others that follow18:18
anpheckj: sure I will add in the wiki18:19
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heckjanp: You can see in the example script in /opt/nova/contrib/ some hints - use it to make your config file18:19
anpheckj: so I should have to create the nova.conf and nova-api.conf manually  right?18:19
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heckjanp: yes. I *believe* you don't actually have to create a nova-api.conf file - if it doesn't exist, nova-api will look for /etc/nova/nova.conf and use it instead (guessing here)18:20
anpheck: thanks18:20
anpheckj: you sent the pastie, but should I create the sqlite file or it's created automatically?18:21
heckjanp: look in the /opt/nova/contrib/ around line 116 for how it's setting up nova.conf, and then around line 170 for the commands you'll need to run18:21
heckjanp: The sqlite file (if you're using that) will be created automatically the first time you invoke "nova-manage db sync"18:22
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heckjanp: If you were setting up to use MySQL as your backing store, you'd need to create the database and a user with appropriate permissions18:22
anpheckj: thanks for the help18:22
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anpheckj: I will try the sqlite now18:23
heckjanp: If all else fails, you might check out the griddynamics distribution. I believe they have this all packaged with YUM for FEDORA/CENTOS/RHEL based systems18:23
anpheckj: so that it's easy to learn now and later i may try with mysql18:23
heckjanp: I havne't used it myself though18:23
anpheckj: thank yo so much. Let me try what all you said18:25
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zuldevcamcar: ping18:28
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uvirtbotNew bug: #808949 in nova "resize doesn't work with recent novaclient" [Undecided,New]
devcamcarzul: pong18:51
zuldevcamcar: im in the middle of packaging openstack dashboard and i added a, should i create a git branch on github so you can pull in my changes?18:53
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devcamcarzul: that would be great18:55
zuldevcamcar: cool...thanks18:55
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deshantmannegentle: is the docs meeting in 50 minutes?19:10
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spectorclan_deshantm: that is what my calendar says19:12
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deshantmspectorclan_: thanks!19:18
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annegentledeshantm: docs meeting, it's in 5 minutes19:55
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uvirtbotNew bug: #808989 in nova "Network Worker Crashes if --flat_network_bridge isn't specified" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #808990 in glance "Creating zero sized instances on nova-compute node" [Undecided,New]
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BryanWBit is a bit unclear to me whether openstack supports vmware esxi20:29
BryanWBwhen i rtfw, i get a blog post from citrix explaining that openstack supports vsphere20:30
BryanWBand then this page which leaves me confused
BryanWBanyone care to shed some light on it?20:30
tux78I am following the notes here where are the detail instructions for setting up the euca environment. I am getting this error "EC2_ACCESS_KEY environment variable must be set."20:30
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tux78I guessing I have to do these steps:
LiteHi, i've got a question about swauth. I want to change the "default_swift_cluster", after having created the accounts. How can i update the accounts afterwards with the new storage url?20:32
notmynameLite: swauth-set-service-endpoint, I think20:33
notmynameLite: actually, swauth-set-account-service20:33
BryanWBtux78, you are a couple steps ahead of me ;)20:33
BryanWBtux78, hope to get there soon20:33
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LiteTesting, thanks20:34
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Litethe default_swift_cluster can be something like "https://swift.domain.tld:8080...", can't it?20:36
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notmynameLite: yes, that looks fine20:37
BryanWBanyone had success spinning up vms on an esxi hypervisor?20:38
BryanWBvia openstack of course20:38
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LitePerfect, works. Thanks alot20:39
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John24816Good question BryanWB, I've gotten pretty far on installing on VMWare ESXi but I can't figure out openstack networking (flat lan), anybody have a nova.conf and /etc/network/interfaces they'd like to share?20:51
mszilagyiDoes anyone know if there a way to setup ACL for containers for swift (not for CDN)?  Ie, be able to have User A mark a container as accessible to Users B&C but disallow access to User D.  Or be able to just simply mark a container as public so you can access its objects w/o having to authenticate.20:51
John24816tux78 when I had issues with EC_ACCESS_KEY I tried echo $EC2_ACCESS_KEY , usually it's the step about nova-manage user admin <username>20:52
John24816then nova-manage project create <PROJECTNAME> <admin-username>20:52
tux78John24816: thanks. It looks like my db permission isn't right. I am checking that.20:53
notmynamemszilagyi: all of that is possible. although perhaps not the best user documentation, it's described best here
John24816finally tux78 I use nova-manage project zipfile <PROJECTNAME> <admin-username> /root/creds/ so that I can eventually cat the novarc (into /root/.bashrc)20:53
John24816oh yeah, that's true too :)20:54
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tux78ok. i tried "nova-manage project zipfile <project_name> <user_name> /root/novacreds/ getting this error "Possible wrong number of arguments supplied"21:01
tux78and 2011-07-11 16:58:54,898 nova.root: wait() got an unexpected keyword argument 'timeout'21:01
tux78(nova.root): TRACE: Traceback (most recent call last):21:01
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mszilagyinotmyname: I had seen that but that doesn't really address if there's a way to do it via API calls.  I don't see any methods relating to setting ACLs in python-cloudfiles for instance.21:02
Archeroffhello folks21:03
Archeroffbefore I charge too far into this project, are there any compelling reasons I should NOT be using stackops?21:04
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notmynamemszilagyi: true, I'm not sure that it's in the language bindings. but it is settable via the API (REST). Those language bindings are (currently) specifically for Rackspace Cloud Files and don't include all of the swift functionality (because it's not a feature of cloud files)21:05
ArcheroffI am needing to implement what I assume to be a fairly standard multi-node installation.21:05
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John24816sorry, tux78, for my example it might be best to follow step by step from a doc or wiki
John24816you'll need to create the /root/creds directory first21:06
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John24816I ignore the overzealous sysadmin who puts the /usr/bin/python /usr/bin/nova-manage :)21:06
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larissaJohn24816: Error: "tux78" is not a valid command.21:07
tux78John24816: I have the directory. the timeout error is coming from python.21:07
John24816tux78 have you created an admin user yet?21:07
tux78yes. i did "nova-manage user admin <user_name>"21:08
John24816ok, what is the username?21:08
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John24816ok, so your command looked like "nova-manage project zipfile project1 osadmin /root/creds/" ?  I don't know how sensitive it is to the target directory/filename?21:09
tux78Yes. I tried that. Still getting  got an unexpected keyword argument 'timeout'21:11
John24816very weird, sorry I can't help, when it goes to stacktrace I'm kinda stuck too ... in fact do you know of any good examples of a nova.conf for a FlatNetwork?21:12
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tux78No, haven't seen examples of nova.conf out there.21:13
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John24816I've been informed that they're working on merging alot of the documentation (docs.openstack vs wiki.openstack) ... I'm trying to use this one (but the install scripts are still cryptic for me too :(21:14
mszilagyinotmyname: any idea on where there might be documentation relating to the API calls for ACLs?  I've dug around but all I've really found is the url you linked (which in no way relates to the API).  Even if cloudfiles doesn't currently support it I could always make my own helpers to do the calls, but hard to do when you there's no documentation telling you what needs to be called in the first place.21:14
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notmynamemszilagyi: the reason there isn't a bunch of documentation on that specifically is because it is very dependent on auth server implementation.21:20
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notmynamemszilagyi: well, that's not entirely correct. ACLs that have to do with users and groups are dependent on the auth system. referrer limits (including public access) are handled by the acls middleware21:23
notmynamemszilagyi: and the headers are X-Container-Read and X-Container-Write21:23
notmynamemszilagyi: you might find more info in
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John24816Which is better for a newbie, ppa:nova-core/trunk or ppa:openstack-release/2011.2  ?21:52
mnaserJohn24816: i would suggest latest stable release because there's a lot of change in trunk with the structure of everything21:53
mnaserso maybe try cactus directly21:53
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John24816Thanks mnaser, is there a ppa for cactus?  (I'm running ubuntu 10.04.2)21:54
mnasermy apologies, 2011.2 is actually cactus21:55
mnasertrunk has al the changes21:55
mnaserdownloading source from shows 2011.2 in the filename/release21:55
John24816I think I understand the confusion, 2011.2 sounds like february but cactus manual actually was released June 8, 201121:56
mnaserthe 2 = second quarter of the year21:56
mnaserdiablo (next release) should/would be 2011.321:56
John24816ah, thanks for the clarification :)21:56
mnaserno problem21:57
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medberry2011.2 means second release of the year aiui, not second quarter....22:26
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mnasermedberry: the releases seem to be aligned on every quarter however22:26
medberrymnaser, not any longer. diablo is a 6 month release... not quarterly.22:26
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mnaser" Diablo Release (Sep 22)" -- isn't that in the 3rd quarter or am i being silly22:27
mnaseri apologize, i stand corrected, medberry22:27
mnaser"Starting with the Diablo release, the OpenStack release cycle abandoned its 3-month time-based cycle for a coordinated 6-month release cycle with frequent development milestones. You can find a link to the current development release schedule here. It is made of four major stages that will be described in this document."22:27
medberryno worries.22:27
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Davor`in a multi-node setup with several hosts running nova-compute, how do I get a VM to run on a particular host?22:41
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Davor`'euca-run-instances' from the compute node still runs it on the controller22:46
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Davor`Has anyone here had success running instances on non-controller nodes?23:33
WormManlots of people :)23:34
Davor`so should 'euca-run-instances' start it on the node where it was executed? Or is the host decided in some other fashion?23:35
WormManit's random(more or less)23:35
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Davor`OK, so if I run it enough times I might hit one of the other hosts? Let's see how lucky I am today...23:37
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WormManI assume nova-manage service list on the control node is showing nova-compute on all the nodes23:38
Davor`Yep, all with smiley faces23:38
Davor`Hey, what do you know -- four tries and it finally hit the other node!23:40
Davor`Thanks WormMan, I was ready to give up and reinstall everything23:41
WormManthe scheduling stuff is not terribly well documented, I had to read the code to figure out how to get it to do what I wanted23:42
Davor`I assume the scheduler tries to do some kind of load balancing?23:42
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Davor`"not terribly well" might be an overstatement. I haven't seen a single mention of it in the admin docs (
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WormMansome of them do, there's actually like 4 or so, I don't even remember which one is the default23:44
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WormManwell, there's some mention of the scheduler in the dev docs, and a bit more in the flags, and then there's some python code :)23:45
Davor`Although I did come across a plan for a future addition that would allow specifying the host with "-z" option to euca-run-instances. Not there yet, though23:45
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WormManthe zone stuff does work, if you put hosts in zones and switch to the zone aware scheduler, I suppose it would be easy enough to hack one up that takes the zone parameter as a hostname23:45
Davor`Yes, but nothing in the admin manual, unfortunately23:46
WormManthat's sort of where I stopped caring for right now23:46
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Davor`Anyways, I'm fine with load-balancing. Or random. Just needed to know that my proof-of-concept cluster is really a multi-node cluster and not one node and four observers. :-)23:47
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