Tuesday, 2011-07-12

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mdomschsoren dendrobates ttx jaypipes: I have an outstanding request to join openstack-planet team; is there a process for moving from 'proposed member' to 'member' ?01:37
mnasermdomsch: i don't know much but I believe one of them has to "OK" you in01:39
mnasermight be a bit late because there is the ongoing openstack conference in london so they might be really busy!  but again I'm assuming things here01:39
mdomschmnaser, I would hope it's that simple.  I'm somewhat new to openstack, not at all new to Linux, and managed to get named to the next dev conference program committee01:40
mnaseri wouldn't sweat it too much, they'll add you eventually :)01:41
mnasermight want to drop by in #openstack-dev too01:41
mnaserbut looks like you're already there, hah01:42
mdomschmnaser, no worries; I'm patient. :-)01:42
mdomschmnaser, thanks much01:43
mnaserto be honest, i'm new to the project too, but we're moving from our proprietary stuff, porting things back into OpenStack nova soon and moving to it!01:44
mdomschI work for Dell - we're doing quite a lot with OpenStack now, and even more soon01:44
mnaserawesome, we play with dell hardware and use their blades with XenServer right now01:45
mnaserwith our proprietary provisioning/management for windows/linux01:45
mdomschthank you for using our servers!01:46
mdomschah ha.  The openstack blog has been listing EMEA OpenStack day as June 13, 201101:47
mdomschthe community events calendar shows it as July 1301:47
notmynamespectorclan: ^^ might want to fix that :-)01:47
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OutBackDingodeshantm: ping03:36
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OutBackDingocurious about openstack managing XCP, i take it i need to install nova and stuff on the XCP box ?03:40
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deshantmOutBackDingo: pong03:42
OutBackDingodeshantm: potsdam ?? really ?03:42
deshantmOutBackDingo: Potsdam, NY yes03:43
deshantmOutBackDingo: you need to install the nova stuff in a VM03:43
deshantmthere is a wiki that details this03:43
OutBackDingoahh cool03:44
deshantmOutBackDingo: we are now building the OpenStack XenAPI plugins now into an RPM03:44
deshantmso that part will become simpler03:44
OutBackDingoive been using the nova-install script03:44
deshantmwe are also working on porting xapi to Ubuntu/Debian03:44
deshantmso nova in Ubuntu dom0 will work at some point03:45
OutBackDingoi built a controller node, so i guess a VM with a cloud node build ill read up on the docs03:45
deshantmwe're targeting Ubuntu 11.10 as a prototype and good support for 12.0403:45
mnaserdeshantm: mind a quick pm, I recently joined openstack-xenapi and I have a bit of questions03:45
deshantmOutBackDingo: feel free to email me on this (todd.deshane@xen.org)03:46
deshantmmnaser: sure03:46
deshantmOutBackDingo: you know Potsdam, NY?03:46
OutBackDingolol i know alot about NY and the southern tier region03:46
OutBackDingouncle was a trooper during the riots03:47
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OutBackDingowent to school in dryden, lived in batavia, uncles family in peru, familiar with drum03:47
OutBackDingobut yeah i know potsdam03:48
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OutBackDingoyour in the middle of nowhere :)03:49
OutBackDingothough SUNY prolly has decent bandwidth03:49
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deshantmOutBackDingo: Clarkson University has decent connection and is on I203:59
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deshantmOutBackDingo: so neat that I meet people from this general part of the world04:06
deshantmI work with UK, California, Austin, etc. much more04:07
OutBackDingojust a family history up there, though Im actually Australian04:07
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deshantmthat's neat04:15
deshantmClarkson University's president is Australian too04:15
deshantmI guess that is a bit off topic for #openstack :)04:15
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OutBackDingodeshantm: true04:22
OutBackDingoim digging into remote backup softwares that will work with a swift like filestor04:22
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openstacklover hi, does openstack support to create a volume in a specific host?04:43
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uvirtbotNew bug: #809131 in nova "Increase code coverage for Libvirt module" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80913104:51
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Nocturnal_i see there is nova, swift and glance is there any security infrastucture being developed along with this?05:25
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pquernaNocturnal_: https://launchpad.net/keystone05:30
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Capashenhi. I sent an email to openstack@lists.launchpad.net yesterday, but I can't see it in the archive and I think it didn't work. Is this list restricted ?07:10
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chetannova-manage project quota proj07:23
chetanjust 10 instances are allowed and henc same fix and floating : how to incerese capacity  for particular project ?07:24
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chetani see above links07:25
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HugoKuo_working on bundle XP image :>08:04
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moimmhello, may someone help me please, is it possible to use swift to store the volumes for nova??08:40
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HugoKuo_koolheadl7 , hello08:41
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koolhead17HugoKuo_, supp09:02
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moimmhello , is it possible to save the nova volumes over swift ??09:25
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karppoquestion... Where should i start finding the reason for instances being stuck at scheduling. Scheduler says "Scheduler was unable to locate a host" and 'nova-manage services list' says that it should be enabled. This issue came up when i installed third nova-compute node.11:03
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vishymoimm: no, backup to swift is planned12:03
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p0hi, i've got a few question about live_migration between 2 compute node12:29
p0i use nfs on controler node for sharing /var/lib/nova/instances (mounted on /opt on compute nodes)12:30
p0command 'nova-manage vm live_migration i-1 host' says Cannot confim tmpfile at /var/lib/nova/instances is on same shared storage between hercule-13 and hercule-1412:32
p0where hercule-13 and 14 are my 2 compute nodes12:33
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Napfton_i have installed a dual node environment with stackops12:53
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Napfton_1 host is controller/volume/network, 1 is compute so far12:54
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Napfton_controller says nova-compute-1 nova-compute enabled  XXX 2011-07-12 08:43:2212:54
Napfton_now im stuck12:54
Napfton_i could not resolve why there is a XXX for the node12:54
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Napfton_the comopute node is working but the controller cant see it apparently12:55
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ttxmdomsch: done -- sorry for te delay :)12:56
mdomschttx, no worries, thanks much!12:56
Napfton_oh i wanted to use flat dhcp networking12:57
Napfton_which is not remotely running on the controlling host.. is that correct?12:57
Napfton_its not even installed... if there is such a thing12:57
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mdomschttx, it seems this planet prefers only on-topic posts, yes?12:58
ttxmdomsch: yes, definitely. You should have a specific "openstack" tag for the posts that are on-topic12:58
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sorenttx: I forget, do the people on the planet manage the config themselves or do we do it for them?12:59
ttxmdomsch: with team membership they should be able to commit config changes13:00
anpheckj: are you there?13:00
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sorenttx, mdomsch: Yup, that seems accurate.13:00
anpHi I have installed Nova on CentOS 5.6 and created nov.conf manaully13:00
ttxsoren: http://wiki.openstack.org/AddingYourBlog13:00
anpcreated a mysql db and  user13:01
sorenttx: Cool.13:01
anpwhen I try nova-manage --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf db sync13:01
anpI get error: DEBUG migrate.versioning.util [-] Disposing SQLAlchemy engine Engine(mysql://novadbuser:novadb123@localhost/novadb) from (pid=4913) with_engine /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy_migrate-0.6-py2.6.egg/migrate/versioning/util/__init__.py:16313:02
anpCommand failed, please check log for more info13:02
anpcan some body help me on this13:02
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anpI can see 29 tables created in the DB13:03
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vishyanp: chek the nova manage log?13:12
vishy* check13:13
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anpvishy: where can I find the log13:13
vishyit depends on your flagfile13:13
anpvishy: i have no files under /var/log/nova13:13
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muranoHello there. I have a problem with openstack compute while creating Certifications with "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/nova-manage project zipfile openstack admin /root/creds/novacreds.zip" on RHEL 6.1. I always get "Possible wrong number of arguments supplied project zipfile: Exports credentials for project to a zip file         arguments: project_id user_id [filename='nova.zip]"13:15
anpvishy: thanks13:15
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muranoCan someone help me with this?13:15
vishyanp: --logdir13:15
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huslagehi there. still trying to get some help. i added a compute node, the controller tried to start a vm on it but the new node never seems to have gotten the message and didn't do anything. ideas?13:16
vishymurano: I'm suspecting another error is causing the failure13:16
vishyare you sure the project openstack exists, the project admin exists, and admin is a member of openstack project?13:17
vishyhuslage: any messages in the compute log?13:17
muranoyes, absolutely sure13:17
huslageno vishy, just the normal checkin stuff.13:17
huslage'nova-manage service list' shows everything as fine from the controller side13:18
vishyso you are getting reports every minute that it is checking in properly?13:19
vishybut it didn't process teh message?13:19
vishymurano. you might have to change the line that catches the exception Possible wrong number of arguments supplied project zipfile13:20
huslagecorrect vishy13:20
vishymurano: to reraise the exception13:20
vishymurano: so you can see exactly what the failure is13:20
vishyhuslage: if you do rabbitmqctl list_queues13:21
vishydo you see any queues with a 1 in them?13:21
vishyare you sure that there is only one copy of nova-compute running per hostname?13:21
huslagethe queues are empty13:21
uvirtbotNew bug: #809316 in nova "cloudpipe instance gets wrong IP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80931613:21
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huslageone copy per host, yes13:22
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vishysounds like the message got processed by something :)13:22
vishyi've seen compute start processing a message and get stuck on a lockfile before13:23
huslageoh wait13:23
huslage2011-07-08 11:50:10,714 ERROR nova [-] model server went away13:23
huslagethat's new13:23
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vishyhmm, yeah looks like it lost db connection13:23
huslagedoes it ever retry13:25
huslageoh my clock is off. sheesh13:25
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koolhead17huslage, use ntp it will help13:26
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huslageyeah i didn't know it wasn't on koolhead17 it's on now.13:26
koolhead17huslage, hope they are synced too :D13:27
koolhead17hi vishy13:27
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huslagevishy: is there a way to force a new vm to start on the new compute node?13:29
koolhead17annegentle, hello13:30
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muranovishy: There should be 3 arguments. Projekt, User and File and everything is fine i think. Can this be a Problem with python on RHEL6.1 ?13:31
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DunkirkCan anyone point me to good docs on nova-network? I can't communicate with my VM's, and I've exhausted everything I've found so far.13:33
DunkirkI need to understand which configuration directives apply to which parts of the networking.13:33
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* koolhead17 points Dunkirk to annegentle :D13:34
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huslagevishy: i found it13:39
annegentleDunkirk: I'm working on brining in diagrams from this page: http://wiki.openstack.org/UnderstandingFlatNetworking but also I've been meaning to reorg this page: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/reference-for-flags-in-nova-conf.html to have a section with just network flags.13:39
huslageit's some libvirt thing13:39
huslagelxcStartup:2128 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address13:39
annegentleDunkirk: there's also this page: http://wiki.openstack.org/FlagsGrouping but it has networking flags under "Unclassified yet"13:39
vishymurano: I'm not sure, but the code that logs the error you mentioned is catching TypeError, so it could be an underlying type error13:40
vishyhuslage: oh lxc interesting13:40
annegentleDunkirk: but at least the nova.network.manager has its own section of flags13:40
huslagestrange. this is ubuntu natty. the other box is the same version…no errors13:40
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Dunkirkannegentle: Wow. Info overload. Lemme get to the point: When I installed, the docs I was following said I needed to create a network with a 12-bit mask for "something," and then I needed another network for the VM's.13:44
Dunkirkannegentle: I guess I set this up wrong, since I can't talk to the VM's.13:44
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Dunkirkannegentle: So, in /etc/nova/nova.conf, I have --fixed_range=, but then I have a couple networks defined in `nova-manage network list'13:45
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Dunkirknetwork           netmask        start address  DNS13:45
Dunkirk(Sorry, I hope I still get 4 lines around these parts...)13:45
Dunkirkannegentle: I don't understand how these two things interact, or where to change them when they don't.13:46
Dunkirkannegentle: This is really good: http://blog.stackops.com/2011/06/13/understanding-stackops-openstack-nova-networking-configuration/13:46
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annegentleDunkirk: ah, thanks, I hadn't seen the Stackops post13:46
Dunkirkannegentle: IF I can get a mapping of where those various networks are configured. conf files or database?13:46
annegentleDunkirk: it's both.13:47
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annegentleDunkirk: and when you do your nova-manage network create public/private the database is populated based on nova.conf settings13:47
annegentle(someone step in and tell me when I'm wrong, please. :) )13:47
annegentleDunkirk: if you are using trunk you need public/private in the nova-manage network create command, but you don't need it if you're using cactus13:47
annegentleWow a subnet calculator. Nice.13:48
DunkirkI guess I would just ask someone to throw me a bone, and tell me what I should use in nova.conf (and create with nova-manage) to just do a single development server with everything on it. Anyone?13:49
DunkirkI thought I was limited to a 12-bit network mask, but it's clear from other docs I'm reading that that's not really the case.13:50
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DunkirkCan I just get away with a single 192.168.x.x? Our internal IP's for this server cabinet is 10.1.1.x/24.13:51
muranovishy: FYI i could fix this. The problem was python with RHEL6.1. I found a bugfix here: http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg02545.html This worked for me. Thank you!13:51
vishymurano: nice.  I dimly remember that being mentioned previously13:52
vishyDunkirk: sure you can use if you want13:53
Dunkirkvishy: So what should I set in /etc/nova/nova.conf, and what should my `nova-manage network list' output look like?13:55
annegentleDunkirk: there's a basic nova.conf on this page http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/sample-nova-configuration-files.html13:55
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vishy--fixed_range= ^ above13:55
vishythen you need to create the network (which will take a bit) using nova manage13:56
Dunkirkvishy: But I need the SAME network in there as in the conf file?13:56
Dunkirkvishy: I thought I needed a subnet.13:56
vishynot in flatdhcp13:57
vishyyou can use the whole thing13:57
Dunkirkvishy: I see...13:57
vishynova-manage network create public 1 6553613:57
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DunkirkOK, now that I have something to experiment with, here's the bigger question: Which networks (as described here: http://blog.stackops.com/2011/06/13/understanding-stackops-openstack-nova-networking-configuration/) is being configured where?13:58
DunkirkAre we all talking about the "yellow" network from that page?13:59
DunkirkWhen the concept is expanded, where do I configure the "green" and the "blue" networks?13:59
annegentleDunkirk: yes, yellow network is set with nova-manage network create13:59
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annegentleDunkirk: the green and blue, I do not know - vish?14:03
annegentleDunkirk: or, ask on http://getsatisfaction.com/stackops14:04
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Dunkirkannegentle: Roger. How about a new site for stackexchange?... ;-)14:06
annegentleDunkirk: we've got a vote site in for it, let me dig up that link. Links all around today! :)14:07
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huslagevishy: libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-0000002014:07
huslagethat's what it's doing now14:07
annegentleAh, closed as a dup http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31788/openstack14:08
huslagewhen trying to start that instance14:08
vishyhuslage: you fixed the cgroups?14:08
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huslageso what's this new error?14:09
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tux78first time openstack install. All my services started except "OpenStack Nova Volume Worker" and "OpenStack Nova Network Controller". Where do I look to see why these two FAILED?14:10
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kbringardtux78: /var/log/nova/nova-nework.log and nova-volume.log14:10
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tux78kbringard: thanks, will look there14:11
huslagevishy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1881/14:11
kbringardalthough, if this is your first install, I'd not worry much about the volume stuff right now14:11
huslagewhat is this DNS need?14:11
kbringardit's not essential to the core of OpenStack, it's only for doing EBS style attachable storage14:11
vishynot sure14:11
kbringardso I wouldn't spend time troubleshooting it before everything else works, personally14:11
vishywere you trying to reboot?14:11
huslagevishy: no i was trying to make a new vm14:12
tux78well, i am having some problems with creating the credential file. it is keep saying "Possible wrong number of arguments supplied". Even though I have all the arguments.14:13
tux78I just trying to make sure all services are running.14:13
vishyhuslage: weird. Your paste references reboot14:13
vishytux78 are you on rhel?14:13
huslageoh wait vishy yes. i tried to "reboot" the instance that never started14:13
tux78vishy: yes. rhel 6.114:14
vishytux78: someone just dealt with that issue14:14
vishytux78: murano: vishy: FYI i could fix this. The problem was python with RHEL6.1. I found a bugfix here: http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg02545.html This worked for me. Thank you!14:14
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tux78vishy: thanks. I am reading it now.14:14
tux78vishy: I used rpm for python install. Can I apply the patch or need to download the source?14:18
vishytux78: I don't know, sorry14:18
huslageok vishy … it's throwing glance errors now: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1882/ i can telnet to the glance server address, but it's giving CONNECTION REFUSED in the logs.14:18
huslagesorry to be a pest14:18
vishytux78: no experience installing on rhel myself14:18
tux78ok, no problem.14:19
vishyhuslage: did you set --glance_api_servers flag?14:19
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huslagei just have --glance-host14:19
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huslageerr glance_host14:20
kbringardthat got changed to --glance_api_servers14:20
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kbringardand it combines the URI and port into one flag14:20
huslageso --glance_api_servers=
huslageisn't correct?14:20
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huslageok kbringard now it's not copying the image over. good gravy.14:26
kbringardcheck /var/lib/nova/instances/_base on your compute node14:26
kbringardyou may have a 0 byte file14:26
huslagezero lentgh14:26
kbringarddelete it14:26
kbringardand try again14:26
viraptoris there any document listing what changes need to be done to the system when migrating from cactus to d2?14:27
kbringardcompute thinks the image is there, because the name matches14:27
kbringardbut the image is 0 byte, so it can't load it14:27
huslagehere we go14:27
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huslageworking now14:27
kbringardw00t, nice14:28
huslageno viraptor14:28
viraptorhuslage: no, as in no changes are needed or noone wrote the doc yet?14:29
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huslageno one wrote the doc, viraptor14:29
huslageis there any way to add metadata to an instance? like a description?14:29
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viraptorhuslage: ok, thanks14:29
fulchi, can anyone spend a few minutes on private chat with me for a few questions? :)14:29
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anpHi with mysql I am using --auth_driver=nova.auth.dbdriver.DbDriver in nova.conf14:38
anpis this correct14:38
kbringardhmmm, are you using mysql for everything?14:39
kbringardI think you want --sql_connection=mysql://user:pass@/host/db14:39
kbringarderr, sorry @host/db14:39
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jaypipeskbringard: that multiple glance servers patch has thrown a monkey wrench into a bunch of people's setups...15:05
kbringardyea, it took me a few minutes to catch it15:05
jaypipeskbringard: took me a few *hours* last night. :(15:06
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kbringardI wonder if it wouldn't behoove us to add back in the old flags as well15:06
kbringardif [ -z glance_api_servers ] && [ ! -z glance_host ]; then ...15:06
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kbringardexcept... obviously in python and not shell ;-)15:07
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vishyyes we should be more careful about breaking flags15:11
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vishyanother one that is going to be painful is the removal of local image service15:11
vishyno one bothered to write a migration script15:11
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coggyhi, quick question: is there a timeout for allocated ip addresses? instead of reuse of previously deallocated ip addresses, i get instances stuck at "networking"15:14
hankj_Performance question: on a small config with a heavy load of small PUTs, seeing very erratic response times,  Some PUTs have very long latencies.  It appears one disk at a time gets too busy, perhaps because of background replication, etc.  Does any of this ring a bell?15:15
notmynamehankj_: for swift?15:16
hankj_Swift, 2 proxies, 8 storage servers x 12 disks15:17
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notmynamehankj_: swift adds a transaction time to each log message. one way to further diagnose the problem is to see what requests (or what kind of requests) have unusual transaction times15:17
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notmynamehankj_: and you can use the logged transaction id to tie together different log lines from different swift servers15:18
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notmynamehankj_: but as far as solving the problem, if it is a matter of replication slowing things down, you may need to look in to tuning timeouts or replication settings or even rsync settings to lower the load on the system15:19
creihthankj_: once you identified the slower requests, I would also check to see if there are any commonalities (ie. same machine, or same hard drive, or specific errors in the error logs)15:20
creihtYou may have a config or hardware issue15:20
hankj_yes, looked in syslog.  long puts have one of three replicas that takes a very long time (seconds).  The guilty server has one disk that is very busy at the time, also with long latency in the same range15:20
notmynamehankj_: is it always the same drive in the same server?15:20
creihthankj_: is this a test or production system?15:21
hankj_at any one time it is the same server, haven't tracked it down to the drive (how?)  From time to time a different disk becomes hot.15:22
hankj_test system, just getting familiar with swift15:22
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creihthankj_: you can turn off the aux services (replication, auditors, etc.) and try the test again to see if there is any difference15:23
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creihtthat will let you know if it is related to those15:23
creihtas to which disk, you can get the transaction id from the proxy log of the slow request, and grep the storage node log for that id15:23
creihtthe url in the request will have the drive in it15:24
hankj_ok, thanks for the suggestions15:24
hankj_will try them15:24
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creihthankj_: what version of swift are you running?15:25
hankj_good question.  someone else installed it.  how do I check?15:25
hankj_I think 1.315:25
notmynamecreiht: we should add the version number to the /healthcheck15:26
creihtnotmyname: that is a very good idea15:26
creihthankj_: on one of the machines run: python -c "import swift; print swift.__version__"15:27
notmynamehankj_: python -c "import swift; print swift.__version__"15:27
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NashTrashHello Openstack'ers!15:30
NashTrashNeed a little help.15:30
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NashTrashA user is trying to execute euca-authorize to open some ports and is getting an "Unauthorized Request" error.15:31
NashTrashI have given the user netadmin and sysadmin roles.  What else do I need to do?15:31
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vishyNashTrash: give the netadmin project role too15:31
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NashTrashvishy: The user has both roles at the global and project level15:32
vishyis the user a member of the project?15:32
NashTrashYes, they are the admin for the project15:32
NashTrashIn the nova-api log I get this: Unauthorized request for controller=CloudController and action=AuthorizeSecurityGroupIngress15:33
NashTrashI see them authenticate, but they are not authorized15:33
vishynova-manage role has <user> netadmin <project> returns True?15:33
NashTrashroot@cloudfront1:~# nova-manage role has johnwilliams netadmin meta_analysis15:34
vishyand you're sure that he is using the right access_key for that user and project?15:34
NashTrashI will have them double check, but how could they authenticate with the wrong key15:34
vishywell they could be specifying the wrong project15:35
vishyperhaps using another project that they don't have netadmin?15:36
vishythat is the only thing that i can think of offhand15:36
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NashTrashJust had him double check, and he really appears to be using the right keys.  He is not part of any other projects15:39
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vishyNashTrash: for sanity, can he create security groups?15:42
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NashTrashHe has created the default group.  But think that happens automatically15:43
vishyor allocate addresses?15:43
NashTrashLet me see…one second15:43
vishyyes default is created automatically15:43
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NashTrashNot able to allocate address and not able to add group.  All are Unauthorized.15:45
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vishysounds like there is some very odd issue with netadmin role15:45
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vishyi don't know how to solve this without throwing some debugs in ec2/__init__.py authorizer15:46
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vishyto try and find out why it is ending up unauthorized15:47
NashTrashvishy: He is able to create VMs, so sysadmin seems to work.15:47
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vishyNashTrash: if he is the projectmanager for the project, it could be using that role15:50
vishysysadmin may not work either15:50
NashTrashvishy:  sysadmin seems to work.  He was able to spawn a VM for that project.15:50
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NashTrashvishy: Yes, I believe he is the projectmanager15:51
vishyaye but he is projectmanager15:51
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NashTrashYes, DB shows him in the project_manager column15:51
NashTrashI can change the project_manager to someone else15:51
vishyi don't see anything obvious that would be failing there15:52
vishyi'm suspecting maybe a unicode vs string mismatch somewhere?15:52
vishybut I think you really need to add some more logging around the warning that is popping up15:52
vishyto find out why the netadmin check is failing15:52
vishyi've never seen this one before15:53
NashTrashOk.  I am not a python guru, could you provide any insights into what I should try?15:53
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vishyNashTrash: I would log the value of allowed_roles15:54
vishyNashTrash: and context.project.has_role(context.user_id, 'netadmin')15:55
vishyperhaps context.project.name as well15:55
vishyand context.user_id just to see if there are any odd values in there15:55
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vishyNashtTrash: are you running multiple nova-api servers?15:57
vishyNashTrash: ^15:57
NashTrashvishy: Yes. Two nova-api servers.15:57
vishyi just had an idea15:57
vishyah that is the problem!15:57
vishyyour cache is invalid15:58
NashTrashDo tell.15:58
vishyrestart them!15:58
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vishyso you need to run memcached15:58
vishyor restart nova-api when you change roles15:58
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NashTrashRestart nova-api for every role change?15:59
vishybecause it caches the roles and they aren't invalidated15:59
vishyor install memcached15:59
NashTrashbetween nova-api and the mysql?15:59
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vishyand set memcached_servers flag15:59
NashTrashLet me see if a nova-api restart helps out.16:00
vishyif you have one nova-api and you set roles through the api instead of nova-manage you don't have to worry about it16:00
NashTrashI am strictly using nova-manage16:00
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vishyrole checking is extremely slow through ldap so the caching was added to speed it up16:02
vishyfortunately the memcached solution is pretty simple16:03
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vishyjust apt-get memcached and python-memcache16:03
vishyand set the flag and you are good16:03
masadaBryan, you find out if OS supports vms?16:04
NashTrashnova-api restart worked.16:04
NashTrashI like the memcached route.  Let's give it a try!16:04
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vishycool! gtg16:04
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NashTrashThanks again.  Beyond the memcached_servers flag, is there any other config necessary?16:05
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masadaIs openstack ready for production hosting or is it still more in development?16:32
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btorchmasada: what openstack-swift is production ready16:37
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masadaso just the storage portion? are there major problems with nova?16:47
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tux78euca-bundle-image -i ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1-vmlinuz --kernel true is giving a Invalid cert error. I created the certificate with nova-manage earlier. How I use it with bungle image?17:03
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vishymasada: no major issues, but it requires a bit of expertise to get running and keep it running at the moment17:07
vishymasada: we are ironing out as many of those issues as possible for the diablo release17:07
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tux78ok. I found the issue. Even though the error message was Invalid. It was looking at /root/cert.pem instead of /root/creds/cert.pem. I just moved the keys and cert to /root and works17:13
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tomh_swift question: has anyone brought up swift on hp hardware and had to deal with hpsa driver renumbering luns, so /dev/sdd becomes /dev/sdc on reboot if the real sdc dies? we were think of dealing it by putting a persistent label on the device so we know where to mount it (always)17:19
tomh_also: has anyone come across any gotchas with fsck stalling swift startup? tks tom_17:19
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masadavishy: thanks for the info. we are currently looking at investing quite a bit into vmware, however openstack was brought forward as an option.17:22
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genttHello, I am Gent from Kosovo.17:35
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genttI would like to join the community, I am currently involved in many FOSS projects such as FLOSSK,Fedora Project,Mozilla etc17:36
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mnasergentt: there's a contributing page on the Wiki that explains how to get started17:40
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genttmnaser, I will check it right now17:45
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jaypipesgentt: welcome :) as mnaser said, http://wiki.openstack.org/HowToContribute is a great place to start17:55
jaypipesgentt: what areas are you interested in? We could use help over on the Glance project if you're interested in the image management part of things...17:56
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bszawonder if someone can confirm my understanding of swift handoff nodes for objects.  Copies of PUT data may end up on handoff nodes if one or more of the nodes responsible for the partition responble for that object is down. It seems that GETs may also read the data from handoff nodes.   Its not clear to me that works all the time because it seems to depend on the ordering of of an array and handoff nodes could be down during the put.17:58
jaypipescreiht, notmyname, redbo: ^^17:59
genttjaypipes, I am not a good programmer. I only know basic things. I could help on docs, l10n etc18:00
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notmynamebsza: correct. that's where the eventual consistency comes in18:00
jaypipesgentt: any help is welcomed. :) email me at jaypipes@gmail.com and I'll point you to some low-hanging fruit18:00
redbobsza: For PUTs, it tries primary nodes first, then handoff nodes, until it runs out of nodes to try or it gets 3 backend servers that can accept the PUT.  GETs never go to handoff nodes, IIRC.18:01
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redbos/3/whatever your configured number of replicas is18:01
bszanotmyname: you mean the replicator will sort it18:01
bszaredbo: it looks to me like gets do iter_node, which includes handoffs18:01
notmynamebsza: I think there is get_additional_nodes (or something like that) that actually gets the handoff nodes18:02
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notmynamebsza: I'm not looking at that part of the code right now, but I don't think GETs do handoff nodes18:03
bszanotmyname: get_more_nodes. But the get calls an iterator that first returns the 'expected' nodes, then the handoffs18:03
notmynameok :-)18:03
redbobsza: yeah, you're right.  I forgot we had limited it with the "attempts" counter instead of just using the primary nodes.18:04
bszanotmyname, redbo: ok thanks18:05
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uvirtbotNew bug: #809479 in openstack-ci "gerrit integration test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80947918:12
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tux78I have "network_manager=nova.network.manager.VlanManager" in nova.conf do I still need to set up with nova-manage network?18:15
tux78I was able register the image but my instance starts goes to networking then says shutdown. So my network setup is probably not right.18:15
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bszanotmyname, redbo: actually the attempts counter limits GETs to the replica count. So no handoff nodes for gets18:38
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genttjaypipes, i just forwarded your email to a fedora/redhat employee with big respect from the community18:40
genttjaypipes, and she is going to find the best men or women :D for the job ;)18:41
redbobsza: yeah, but if it can't connect to a server entirely, it doesn't count as an attempt.  Sort of a complicated story, I guess.18:41
jaypipesgentt: awesome, thank you! Could really use your help in the Fedora doc areas!18:41
genttjaypipes, pleasure mine18:43
mnaserjaypipes: mind a quick pm re: glance?18:44
jaypipesmnaser: any time.18:44
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jaypipesmnaser: if the question's answer is generally useful for people, though, might be good to discuss on channel...18:44
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NashTrashHas anyone used "virsh save18:52
NashTrash …" and18:52
NashTrash…"virsh restore" on a cloud VM?  Is there an impact on the DCHP addresses?18:53
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tux78was nova-manage network changed somewhat in diablo2?19:04
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devcamcartux78: there were some recent changes due to the multi-nic patch i believe. can you be more specific?19:07
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heckjtux78 - the commands changed in trunk, but not in diablo2 - you'll see them hit in diablo319:12
tux78when I try something like this "nova-manage network create private 192.168..0.0/24 1 255" I get this --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf does not match any options:19:14
tux78Even nova-manage network list does not work19:15
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tux78something screwed up nova-manage user list is also giving this prompt --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf does not match any options:19:18
tux78ok. I had a typo in nova.conf ...phew...:)19:21
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moimmhi, i had just begin with openstack swift and nova, can someone tell me please if it is possible to use swift to store the volumes for nova??19:43
notmynamemoimm: yes. using glance19:43
moimmi'm talking about volumes not images, is it possible??19:44
creihtwell you can use it to store the initial images, but for attachable volumes you can not19:44
creihtyou want to use nova volume service for that19:44
notmynamemoimm: oops. misread. sorry for the misinfo19:45
moimmnotmyname: it does not matter :) thx19:46
moimmcreiht : can you please tell me why ??19:46
creihtmoimm: swift is an object store, similar in purpose to amazon S3, not EBS19:47
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moimmcreiht : thanks :)19:47
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creihtI wish there was an easier way to explain these things without having to compare to amazon services :/19:48
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moimmcreiht : yes , it answers to my question :) thank you  for your help19:49
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tux78nova-manage delete <network> saying "Command failed, please check log for more info20:12
tux78I made a mistake in the network address, how do i delete and start again20:12
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tux78ok. had to disassoicate the project first with nova-manage project scrub <project_name>. Then delete worked :)20:20
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NashTrashvishy: Hey Vishy, I just upgrade a bunch of machines from Ubntu 10.10 to 11.04 and also took them from D1 to D2.  Some of them are now getting a strange error when trying to start a VM.  Do you have a moment to take a look?20:29
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NashTrashvishy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1885/20:30
NashTrashvishy: Maybe a never mind.  Looks like a libvirt restart may solve the problem.20:31
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masadacan someone explain how cloudstack and stackops fit into the openstack picture?20:36
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masadaare they more of a complete hosting platform?20:36
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mattraymasada: StackOps are a commercially supported variant of OpenStack20:39
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mattraymasada: based off of Cactus I believe20:40
mattraymasada: CloudStack is Cloud.com's codebase, open core and not currently based off of OpenStack I believe20:40
mattraymasada: though they were planning on moving to OpenStack eventually20:40
masadamattray: thanks for the info. Is openstack ready for a production IaaS offerings?20:41
bpaluchcan someone point me to the github repo that has that fancy script that installs everything including dashboard on one machine?20:41
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masadamattray: We're currently looking to offer a private cloud to some of our customers as a value add, and given the cost of vmware, openstack was suggested as a solid candidate.20:42
mattraymasada: there are definitely public offerings out there of Swift, a sprinkling of Nova20:42
mattraymasada: definitely in private cloud scenarios20:42
masadamattray: is it missing some building blocks to offer such servies?20:42
mattraymasada: there are a lot of people ramping up on OpenStack right now, the Diablo release (September) is going to have many public installations20:43
mattraymasada: not missing, just hard to deploy currently20:43
mattraymasada: which is why folks like StackOps, Piston and Rackspace Cloud Builders are around20:43
mattraymasada: think of OpenStack like the early Linux distributions. Today we're in the Yggdrasil stages20:44
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mattraymasada: soon there will be Debian, SUSE and RHEL :)20:44
masadamattray: that makes perfect sense. So with respect to long term service offerings, I get the impression that OpenStack is a bit premature for commercial grade offerings?20:44
masadamattray: or does it just require a bunch of work under the hood that most people wont bother with?20:45
mattraymasada: not really. I know there are many large scale deployments ramping up right now20:45
mattraymasada: yeah, it still requires a lot of tweaking and domain experience20:46
mattraymasada: which is why the different service companies are sprouting up20:46
notmynamemasada: there are several commercial deployments of swift currently20:46
mattraybut if you need assistance, there are lots of choices20:46
annegentlebpaluch: I think this one is what you want: https://github.com/cloudbuilders/deploy.sh/raw/master/nova.sh20:46
creihtmasada: I know you guys are most likely talking about Nova, but I would also just like to add in there that swift is more than ready for production :)20:47
bpaluchyep thats it. Thanks anne!20:47
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masadamattray: Yeah I think Nova was the key. Swift is a bit over my head personally but there's likely other guys that see the light.20:47
masadasorry, creiht20:47
creihtno worries, I understand20:47
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masadawe're currently having some vmware guys ram marketing material down our throats right now.20:48
mattraymasada: Swift is definitely deployed a lot of places already, Nova's getting there20:48
creihtmost people here tend to talk about Nova, but always want to make sure that people understand that swift it production ready20:48
mattraycreiht: for sure20:48
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masadaseems they are making a huge push right now to get everyone into contracts ont eh VSPP program, however it seems very interesting that they cant multi-tennant it properly right now.20:49
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masadacreiht: is nova used mostly for CDN's or whats its primary target?20:52
notmynamespectorclan: the convirture link on http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/ is broken20:52
creihtmasada: you mean swift?20:52
creihtIt is for object storage, very similar to Amazon's S320:53
masadasorry yes.20:53
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masadacreiht: Thanks for all the help.20:56
masadacreiht: all makes sense on the swift side of things.20:56
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liemmnI tried to post to openstack@lists.launchpad.net; but, I don't see my email shown; I am able to get all the subscription notices though...  Do we have an admin for the mailing list?  Thanks in advance.20:59
creihtliemmn: sometimes it can take a while for the launchapd mailing lists to catch up21:01
liemmnok, thanks... I will wait :)21:02
creihtif it doesn't show up in a couple of hours, then I would ask again :)21:02
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NashTrashHello All.21:17
NashTrashIs there a means to upload an existing public key to nova so that it is injected on VM creation?21:17
creihtliemmn: I just saw your message come through on the list :)21:19
jaypipesliemmn: your message went into the moderation queue... should be good now...21:20
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liemmnSweet!  thanks again :-D21:21
kbringard_NashTrash: I don't think there is an API call to do it, but you could inject it into the DB directly21:22
NashTrashkbringard_: Do you need to inject both the public key and the fingerprint?21:22
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kbringard_I would, just to be safe21:23
NashTrashI never did before and things worked, but I just upgraded to D2 and now ssh is failing on the public key.21:23
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kbringard_update key_pairs set fingerprint = 'ab:cd:de:f0', public_key = 'ssh-rsa sdlkfjsladkjf;alskjdf;lkjsdl;fsad....' where name = @key_name21:24
kbringard_but in truth I'm not entirely sure, I've never actually done it21:24
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kbringard_but I can't see why it wouldn't work21:24
kbringard_all that cloud-init does is query the meta-api, which pulls from the key_pairs table21:25
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liemmnA question on Keystone...  For token validation, there is a "belongsTo" query parameter; but, it is not being used in the code (service.py).  What is the intention of this parameter, or am I looking at old documentation (or missing code)?  Thanks.21:31
uvirtbotNew bug: #809570 in nova "Migrate will change instance_type_id of instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80957021:31
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NashTrashkbringard_: I set the fingerprint and it works now.  Love them cloud goblins.21:47
knighthackerliemmn: I haven't touched that code in a while, but I think it was intended so that you validate that a specific token belongs to a specific tenant.21:47
NashTrashBye ya'll21:47
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uvirtbotNew bug: #809587 in nova "Resize revert applies wrong flavor to original instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80958721:51
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liemmnknighthacker:  Yes, that makes sense...  I just don't see the code that does the validation in the latest keystone; so, just wondering which one is correct, the api or the code.21:56
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Pentheus_Good afternoon, does anyone have any suggestions for documentation material material on upgrading swift deployments.  The upgrade release notes are a little light.21:58
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Pentheus_Specifically, we are going from 1.0.99 to Bexar, or first to Cactus if that makese more sense21:59
Pentheus_If we are on our own for that, that is fine, but just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some obvious helpful document22:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #809593 in nova "allocate_fixed_ip causes unexpected keyword argument 'vpn'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80959322:11
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_vinayI am trying to install diablo M222:36
rupakganyone has an idea why I am getting a 404 on a Nova call: /v1.1/servers/13/ips.json22:36
_vinayIs there a doc for steps needed22:37
rupakgthis is the list addresses call22:37
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uvirtbotNew bug: #809614 in nova "Disk Clean up on Build Failure in XenServer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/80961422:41
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_vinayThe latest nova-manage doesnt seem to have "network" command in there22:48
_vinayany ideas??22:48
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zedashey, style question, i see this pattern sometimes in nova code: def run_instance(self, context, instance_id, **kwargs): self._run_instance(context, instance_id, **kwargs)22:49
zedasis there a reason you have a method that just calls another method with the same name but an underscore?22:50
_vinaynova-manage db sync  ... This also doesnt work ... "db" command not found22:51
_vinayI am trying to find out what changed... any pointers please ?? thanks22:52
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kpepple_vinay: are you running nova-manage as root ? does it come back with a list of available commands or just a stack trace ?22:57
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mnasertrunk can't create servers anymore, fun :<22:59
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masadawith respect to building a testing environment with OpenStack, doesnt putting the cloud inside the cloud fundamentally break the internet?23:08
masadawill our office implode?23:08
kpepplemasada: just to be safe, we unplug the microwaves when we do that here23:09
masadakpepple: can't. the boys are making plasma in ours.23:09
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medberrymasada, russian stacking clouds (like the Matryoshka dolls)... hmmm, there's already something geek called Matroska though....23:14
masadainteresting thought... Matryoshka Cloud23:16
masadaactually, on the other hand... perhaps we're just playing with fire on this.23:16
masadaI dont want my legacy to be the implosion of the interweb.23:16
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countspongebob_This question is one of nested virtualization, correct?23:25
countspongebob_Are there processor restrictions on nested virtualization to take note of?23:25
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masadayeah we nested the build inside a virtual infastructure for testing.23:26
masadaseems to work fine.23:26
countspongebob_kvm or xen?23:26
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kpepplecountspongebob_: as long as you use UML, you should be safe with pretty much anything ... i use the vagrant for it mostly23:27
masadawe're trying kvm. i dont know if xen is worth it.23:27
masadainf act, perhaps someone here knows if xen is actually better for production?23:27
countspongebob_masada: you running on intel or AMD gear for nested? Someone told me that it might work right only on opteron.23:28
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countspongebob_Guess I should ask your kernel version23:29
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masadaim actually checking out stackops right now.23:30
masadaso i dont know what they used y et.23:30
countspongebob_you know which distro?23:31
masadaim pretty sure they use ubuntu23:31
masadaif i build from scratch i think we will use centos and hten just use openstack without all the crap.23:31
countspongebob_10.04 or 11.04? Would be first indicator23:31
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kpepplestackops uses 10.04 LTS and KVM23:33
masadakpepple: thanks23:34
countspongebob_Likewise, thanks.23:34
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