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| mdomsch | soren dendrobates ttx jaypipes: I have an outstanding request to join openstack-planet team; is there a process for moving from 'proposed member' to 'member' ? | 01:37 |
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| mnaser | mdomsch: i don't know much but I believe one of them has to "OK" you in | 01:39 |
| mnaser | might be a bit late because there is the ongoing openstack conference in london so they might be really busy! but again I'm assuming things here | 01:39 |
| mdomsch | mnaser, I would hope it's that simple. I'm somewhat new to openstack, not at all new to Linux, and managed to get named to the next dev conference program committee | 01:40 |
| mnaser | i wouldn't sweat it too much, they'll add you eventually :) | 01:41 |
| mnaser | might want to drop by in #openstack-dev too | 01:41 |
| mnaser | but looks like you're already there, hah | 01:42 |
| mdomsch | mnaser, no worries; I'm patient. :-) | 01:42 |
| mdomsch | mnaser, thanks much | 01:43 |
| mnaser | to be honest, i'm new to the project too, but we're moving from our proprietary stuff, porting things back into OpenStack nova soon and moving to it! | 01:44 |
| mdomsch | excellent! | 01:44 |
| mdomsch | I work for Dell - we're doing quite a lot with OpenStack now, and even more soon | 01:44 |
| mnaser | awesome, we play with dell hardware and use their blades with XenServer right now | 01:45 |
| mnaser | with our proprietary provisioning/management for windows/linux | 01:45 |
| mdomsch | thank you for using our servers! | 01:46 |
| mnaser | :) | 01:46 |
| mdomsch | ah ha. The openstack blog has been listing EMEA OpenStack day as June 13, 2011 | 01:47 |
| mdomsch | the community events calendar shows it as July 13 | 01:47 |
| notmyname | spectorclan: ^^ might want to fix that :-) | 01:47 |
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| OutBackDingo | deshantm: ping | 03:36 |
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| OutBackDingo | curious about openstack managing XCP, i take it i need to install nova and stuff on the XCP box ? | 03:40 |
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| deshantm | OutBackDingo: pong | 03:42 |
| OutBackDingo | deshantm: potsdam ?? really ? | 03:42 |
| deshantm | OutBackDingo: Potsdam, NY yes | 03:43 |
| OutBackDingo | LOL | 03:43 |
| deshantm | OutBackDingo: you need to install the nova stuff in a VM | 03:43 |
| deshantm | there is a wiki that details this | 03:43 |
| deshantm | http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment | 03:44 |
| OutBackDingo | ahh cool | 03:44 |
| deshantm | OutBackDingo: we are now building the OpenStack XenAPI plugins now into an RPM | 03:44 |
| deshantm | so that part will become simpler | 03:44 |
| OutBackDingo | ive been using the nova-install script | 03:44 |
| deshantm | we are also working on porting xapi to Ubuntu/Debian | 03:44 |
| deshantm | so nova in Ubuntu dom0 will work at some point | 03:45 |
| OutBackDingo | i built a controller node, so i guess a VM with a cloud node build ill read up on the docs | 03:45 |
| deshantm | we're targeting Ubuntu 11.10 as a prototype and good support for 12.04 | 03:45 |
| mnaser | deshantm: mind a quick pm, I recently joined openstack-xenapi and I have a bit of questions | 03:45 |
| deshantm | OutBackDingo: feel free to email me on this (todd.deshane@xen.org) | 03:46 |
| deshantm | mnaser: sure | 03:46 |
| deshantm | OutBackDingo: you know Potsdam, NY? | 03:46 |
| OutBackDingo | lol i know alot about NY and the southern tier region | 03:46 |
| OutBackDingo | adirondacks | 03:46 |
| OutBackDingo | uncle was a trooper during the riots | 03:47 |
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| OutBackDingo | went to school in dryden, lived in batavia, uncles family in peru, familiar with drum | 03:47 |
| OutBackDingo | but yeah i know potsdam | 03:48 |
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| OutBackDingo | your in the middle of nowhere :) | 03:49 |
| OutBackDingo | though SUNY prolly has decent bandwidth | 03:49 |
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| deshantm | OutBackDingo: Clarkson University has decent connection and is on I2 | 03:59 |
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| deshantm | OutBackDingo: so neat that I meet people from this general part of the world | 04:06 |
| deshantm | I work with UK, California, Austin, etc. much more | 04:07 |
| OutBackDingo | just a family history up there, though Im actually Australian | 04:07 |
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| deshantm | that's neat | 04:15 |
| deshantm | Clarkson University's president is Australian too | 04:15 |
| deshantm | I guess that is a bit off topic for #openstack :) | 04:15 |
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| OutBackDingo | deshantm: true | 04:22 |
| OutBackDingo | im digging into remote backup softwares that will work with a swift like filestor | 04:22 |
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| openstacklover | hi, does openstack support to create a volume in a specific host? | 04:43 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #809131 in nova "Increase code coverage for Libvirt module" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809131 | 04:51 |
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| Nocturnal_ | i see there is nova, swift and glance is there any security infrastucture being developed along with this? | 05:25 |
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| pquerna | Nocturnal_: https://launchpad.net/keystone | 05:30 |
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| Capashen | hi. I sent an email to openstack@lists.launchpad.net yesterday, but I can't see it in the archive and I think it didn't work. Is this list restricted ? | 07:10 |
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| chetan | nova-manage project quota proj | 07:23 |
| chetan | just 10 instances are allowed and henc same fix and floating : how to incerese capacity for particular project ? | 07:24 |
| chetan | http://paste.openstack.org/show/1880/ | 07:24 |
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| chetan | i see above links | 07:25 |
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| moimm | hello, may someone help me please, is it possible to use swift to store the volumes for nova?? | 08:40 |
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| moimm | hello , is it possible to save the nova volumes over swift ?? | 09:25 |
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| karppo | question... Where should i start finding the reason for instances being stuck at scheduling. Scheduler says "Scheduler was unable to locate a host" and 'nova-manage services list' says that it should be enabled. This issue came up when i installed third nova-compute node. | 11:03 |
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| vishy | moimm: no, backup to swift is planned | 12:03 |
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| p0 | hi, i've got a few question about live_migration between 2 compute node | 12:29 |
| p0 | i use nfs on controler node for sharing /var/lib/nova/instances (mounted on /opt on compute nodes) | 12:30 |
| p0 | command 'nova-manage vm live_migration i-1 host' says Cannot confim tmpfile at /var/lib/nova/instances is on same shared storage between hercule-13 and hercule-14 | 12:32 |
| p0 | where hercule-13 and 14 are my 2 compute nodes | 12:33 |
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| Napfton_ | hi | 12:52 |
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| Napfton_ | i have installed a dual node environment with stackops | 12:53 |
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| Napfton_ | 1 host is controller/volume/network, 1 is compute so far | 12:54 |
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| Napfton_ | controller says nova-compute-1 nova-compute enabled XXX 2011-07-12 08:43:22 | 12:54 |
| Napfton_ | now im stuck | 12:54 |
| Napfton_ | i could not resolve why there is a XXX for the node | 12:54 |
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| Napfton_ | the comopute node is working but the controller cant see it apparently | 12:55 |
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| ttx | mdomsch: done -- sorry for te delay :) | 12:56 |
| mdomsch | ttx, no worries, thanks much! | 12:56 |
| Napfton_ | oh i wanted to use flat dhcp networking | 12:57 |
| Napfton_ | which is not remotely running on the controlling host.. is that correct? | 12:57 |
| Napfton_ | its not even installed... if there is such a thing | 12:57 |
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| mdomsch | ttx, it seems this planet prefers only on-topic posts, yes? | 12:58 |
| ttx | mdomsch: yes, definitely. You should have a specific "openstack" tag for the posts that are on-topic | 12:58 |
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| mdomsch | yep | 12:59 |
| soren | ttx: I forget, do the people on the planet manage the config themselves or do we do it for them? | 12:59 |
| ttx | mdomsch: with team membership they should be able to commit config changes | 13:00 |
| anp | heckj: are you there? | 13:00 |
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| soren | ttx, mdomsch: Yup, that seems accurate. | 13:00 |
| anp | Hi I have installed Nova on CentOS 5.6 and created nov.conf manaully | 13:00 |
| ttx | soren: http://wiki.openstack.org/AddingYourBlog | 13:00 |
| anp | created a mysql db and user | 13:01 |
| soren | ttx: Cool. | 13:01 |
| anp | when I try nova-manage --flagfile /etc/nova/nova.conf db sync | 13:01 |
| anp | I get error: DEBUG migrate.versioning.util [-] Disposing SQLAlchemy engine Engine(mysql://novadbuser:novadb123@localhost/novadb) from (pid=4913) with_engine /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/sqlalchemy_migrate-0.6-py2.6.egg/migrate/versioning/util/__init__.py:163 | 13:02 |
| anp | Command failed, please check log for more info | 13:02 |
| anp | can some body help me on this | 13:02 |
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| anp | I can see 29 tables created in the DB | 13:03 |
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| vishy | anp: chek the nova manage log? | 13:12 |
| vishy | * check | 13:13 |
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| anp | vishy: where can I find the log | 13:13 |
| vishy | it depends on your flagfile | 13:13 |
| anp | vishy: i have no files under /var/log/nova | 13:13 |
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| murano | Hello there. I have a problem with openstack compute while creating Certifications with "/usr/bin/python /usr/bin/nova-manage project zipfile openstack admin /root/creds/novacreds.zip" on RHEL 6.1. I always get "Possible wrong number of arguments supplied project zipfile: Exports credentials for project to a zip file arguments: project_id user_id [filename='nova.zip]" | 13:15 |
| anp | vishy: thanks | 13:15 |
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| murano | Can someone help me with this? | 13:15 |
| vishy | anp: --logdir | 13:15 |
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| huslage | hi there. still trying to get some help. i added a compute node, the controller tried to start a vm on it but the new node never seems to have gotten the message and didn't do anything. ideas? | 13:16 |
| vishy | murano: I'm suspecting another error is causing the failure | 13:16 |
| vishy | are you sure the project openstack exists, the project admin exists, and admin is a member of openstack project? | 13:17 |
| vishy | huslage: any messages in the compute log? | 13:17 |
| murano | yes, absolutely sure | 13:17 |
| huslage | no vishy, just the normal checkin stuff. | 13:17 |
| huslage | 'nova-manage service list' shows everything as fine from the controller side | 13:18 |
| vishy | so you are getting reports every minute that it is checking in properly? | 13:19 |
| vishy | but it didn't process teh message? | 13:19 |
| vishy | murano. you might have to change the line that catches the exception Possible wrong number of arguments supplied project zipfile | 13:20 |
| huslage | correct vishy | 13:20 |
| vishy | murano: to reraise the exception | 13:20 |
| vishy | murano: so you can see exactly what the failure is | 13:20 |
| vishy | huslage: if you do rabbitmqctl list_queues | 13:21 |
| vishy | do you see any queues with a 1 in them? | 13:21 |
| vishy | are you sure that there is only one copy of nova-compute running per hostname? | 13:21 |
| huslage | the queues are empty | 13:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #809316 in nova "cloudpipe instance gets wrong IP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809316 | 13:21 |
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| huslage | one copy per host, yes | 13:22 |
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| vishy | sounds like the message got processed by something :) | 13:22 |
| vishy | i've seen compute start processing a message and get stuck on a lockfile before | 13:23 |
| huslage | oh wait | 13:23 |
| huslage | 2011-07-08 11:50:10,714 ERROR nova [-] model server went away | 13:23 |
| huslage | that's new | 13:23 |
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| vishy | hmm, yeah looks like it lost db connection | 13:23 |
| huslage | arg | 13:24 |
| huslage | does it ever retry | 13:25 |
| huslage | oh my clock is off. sheesh | 13:25 |
| huslage | i quit | 13:25 |
| koolhead17 | huslage, use ntp it will help | 13:26 |
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| huslage | yeah i didn't know it wasn't on koolhead17 it's on now. | 13:26 |
| huslage | :) | 13:26 |
| koolhead17 | huslage, hope they are synced too :D | 13:27 |
| koolhead17 | hi vishy | 13:27 |
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| vishy | ohai! | 13:28 |
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| huslage | vishy: is there a way to force a new vm to start on the new compute node? | 13:29 |
| koolhead17 | annegentle, hello | 13:30 |
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| murano | vishy: There should be 3 arguments. Projekt, User and File and everything is fine i think. Can this be a Problem with python on RHEL6.1 ? | 13:31 |
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| Dunkirk | Can anyone point me to good docs on nova-network? I can't communicate with my VM's, and I've exhausted everything I've found so far. | 13:33 |
| Dunkirk | I need to understand which configuration directives apply to which parts of the networking. | 13:33 |
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| * koolhead17 points Dunkirk to annegentle :D | 13:34 | |
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| huslage | vishy: i found it | 13:39 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: I'm working on brining in diagrams from this page: http://wiki.openstack.org/UnderstandingFlatNetworking but also I've been meaning to reorg this page: http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/reference-for-flags-in-nova-conf.html to have a section with just network flags. | 13:39 |
| huslage | it's some libvirt thing | 13:39 |
| huslage | lxcStartup:2128 : Unable to create cgroup for driver: No such device or address | 13:39 |
| huslage | ugh | 13:39 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: there's also this page: http://wiki.openstack.org/FlagsGrouping but it has networking flags under "Unclassified yet" | 13:39 |
| vishy | murano: I'm not sure, but the code that logs the error you mentioned is catching TypeError, so it could be an underlying type error | 13:40 |
| vishy | huslage: oh lxc interesting | 13:40 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: but at least the nova.network.manager has its own section of flags | 13:40 |
| huslage | strange. this is ubuntu natty. the other box is the same version…no errors | 13:40 |
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| Dunkirk | annegentle: Wow. Info overload. Lemme get to the point: When I installed, the docs I was following said I needed to create a network with a 12-bit mask for "something," and then I needed another network for the VM's. | 13:44 |
| Dunkirk | annegentle: I guess I set this up wrong, since I can't talk to the VM's. | 13:44 |
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| Dunkirk | annegentle: So, in /etc/nova/nova.conf, I have --fixed_range=172.16.0.0/12, but then I have a couple networks defined in `nova-manage network list' | 13:45 |
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| Dunkirk | network netmask start address DNS | 13:45 |
| Dunkirk | 192.168.254.0/25 255.255.255.128192.168.254.2 8.8.4.4 | 13:45 |
| Dunkirk | 172.20.0.0/25 255.255.255.128172.20.0.2 8.8.4.4 | 13:45 |
| Dunkirk | (Sorry, I hope I still get 4 lines around these parts...) | 13:45 |
| Dunkirk | annegentle: I don't understand how these two things interact, or where to change them when they don't. | 13:46 |
| Dunkirk | annegentle: This is really good: http://blog.stackops.com/2011/06/13/understanding-stackops-openstack-nova-networking-configuration/ | 13:46 |
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| annegentle | Dunkirk: ah, thanks, I hadn't seen the Stackops post | 13:46 |
| Dunkirk | annegentle: IF I can get a mapping of where those various networks are configured. conf files or database? | 13:46 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: it's both. | 13:47 |
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| annegentle | Dunkirk: and when you do your nova-manage network create public/private the database is populated based on nova.conf settings | 13:47 |
| annegentle | (someone step in and tell me when I'm wrong, please. :) ) | 13:47 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: if you are using trunk you need public/private in the nova-manage network create command, but you don't need it if you're using cactus | 13:47 |
| annegentle | Wow a subnet calculator. Nice. | 13:48 |
| annegentle | http://www.subnet-calculator.com/ | 13:48 |
| Dunkirk | I guess I would just ask someone to throw me a bone, and tell me what I should use in nova.conf (and create with nova-manage) to just do a single development server with everything on it. Anyone? | 13:49 |
| Dunkirk | I thought I was limited to a 12-bit network mask, but it's clear from other docs I'm reading that that's not really the case. | 13:50 |
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| Dunkirk | Can I just get away with a single 192.168.x.x? Our internal IP's for this server cabinet is 10.1.1.x/24. | 13:51 |
| murano | vishy: FYI i could fix this. The problem was python with RHEL6.1. I found a bugfix here: http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg02545.html This worked for me. Thank you! | 13:51 |
| vishy | murano: nice. I dimly remember that being mentioned previously | 13:52 |
| vishy | Dunkirk: sure you can use 192.168.0.0/16 if you want | 13:53 |
| Dunkirk | vishy: So what should I set in /etc/nova/nova.conf, and what should my `nova-manage network list' output look like? | 13:55 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: there's a basic nova.conf on this page http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/sample-nova-configuration-files.html | 13:55 |
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| vishy | --fixed_range= ^ above | 13:55 |
| vishy | --flat_network_dhcp_start=192.168.0.2 | 13:56 |
| vishy | then you need to create the network (which will take a bit) using nova manage | 13:56 |
| Dunkirk | vishy: But I need the SAME network in there as in the conf file? | 13:56 |
| Dunkirk | vishy: I thought I needed a subnet. | 13:56 |
| vishy | yup | 13:57 |
| Dunkirk | OK... | 13:57 |
| vishy | not in flatdhcp | 13:57 |
| vishy | you can use the whole thing | 13:57 |
| Dunkirk | vishy: I see... | 13:57 |
| vishy | nova-manage network create public 192.168.0.0/16 1 65536 | 13:57 |
| vishy | iirc | 13:57 |
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| Dunkirk | OK, now that I have something to experiment with, here's the bigger question: Which networks (as described here: http://blog.stackops.com/2011/06/13/understanding-stackops-openstack-nova-networking-configuration/) is being configured where? | 13:58 |
| Dunkirk | Are we all talking about the "yellow" network from that page? | 13:59 |
| Dunkirk | When the concept is expanded, where do I configure the "green" and the "blue" networks? | 13:59 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: yes, yellow network is set with nova-manage network create | 13:59 |
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| annegentle | Dunkirk: the green and blue, I do not know - vish? | 14:03 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: or, ask on http://getsatisfaction.com/stackops | 14:04 |
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| Dunkirk | annegentle: Roger. How about a new site for stackexchange?... ;-) | 14:06 |
| annegentle | Dunkirk: we've got a vote site in for it, let me dig up that link. Links all around today! :) | 14:07 |
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| huslage | vishy: libvirtError: Domain not found: no domain with matching name 'instance-00000020 | 14:07 |
| huslage | that's what it's doing now | 14:07 |
| annegentle | Ah, closed as a dup http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/31788/openstack | 14:08 |
| huslage | when trying to start that instance | 14:08 |
| vishy | huslage: you fixed the cgroups? | 14:08 |
| huslage | yeah | 14:08 |
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| huslage | so what's this new error? | 14:09 |
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| tux78 | first time openstack install. All my services started except "OpenStack Nova Volume Worker" and "OpenStack Nova Network Controller". Where do I look to see why these two FAILED? | 14:10 |
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| kbringard | tux78: /var/log/nova/nova-nework.log and nova-volume.log | 14:10 |
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| tux78 | kbringard: thanks, will look there | 14:11 |
| huslage | vishy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1881/ | 14:11 |
| kbringard | although, if this is your first install, I'd not worry much about the volume stuff right now | 14:11 |
| huslage | what is this DNS need? | 14:11 |
| kbringard | it's not essential to the core of OpenStack, it's only for doing EBS style attachable storage | 14:11 |
| tux78 | ok. | 14:11 |
| vishy | not sure | 14:11 |
| kbringard | so I wouldn't spend time troubleshooting it before everything else works, personally | 14:11 |
| vishy | were you trying to reboot? | 14:11 |
| huslage | vishy: no i was trying to make a new vm | 14:12 |
| tux78 | well, i am having some problems with creating the credential file. it is keep saying "Possible wrong number of arguments supplied". Even though I have all the arguments. | 14:13 |
| tux78 | I just trying to make sure all services are running. | 14:13 |
| vishy | huslage: weird. Your paste references reboot | 14:13 |
| vishy | tux78 are you on rhel? | 14:13 |
| huslage | oh wait vishy yes. i tried to "reboot" the instance that never started | 14:13 |
| tux78 | vishy: yes. rhel 6.1 | 14:14 |
| vishy | tux78: someone just dealt with that issue | 14:14 |
| vishy | tux78: murano: vishy: FYI i could fix this. The problem was python with RHEL6.1. I found a bugfix here: http://www.mail-archive.com/openstack@lists.launchpad.net/msg02545.html This worked for me. Thank you! | 14:14 |
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| tux78 | vishy: thanks. I am reading it now. | 14:14 |
| tux78 | vishy: I used rpm for python install. Can I apply the patch or need to download the source? | 14:18 |
| vishy | tux78: I don't know, sorry | 14:18 |
| huslage | ok vishy … it's throwing glance errors now: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1882/ i can telnet to the glance server address, but it's giving CONNECTION REFUSED in the logs. | 14:18 |
| huslage | sorry to be a pest | 14:18 |
| vishy | tux78: no experience installing on rhel myself | 14:18 |
| tux78 | ok, no problem. | 14:19 |
| vishy | huslage: did you set --glance_api_servers flag? | 14:19 |
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| huslage | i just have --glance-host | 14:19 |
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| huslage | err glance_host | 14:20 |
| kbringard | that got changed to --glance_api_servers | 14:20 |
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| huslage | lovely | 14:20 |
| kbringard | and it combines the URI and port into one flag | 14:20 |
| huslage | so --glance_api_servers=205.211.169.14 | 14:20 |
| huslage | isn't correct? | 14:20 |
| kbringard | :9292 | 14:20 |
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| huslage | ok | 14:20 |
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| huslage | ok kbringard now it's not copying the image over. good gravy. | 14:26 |
| kbringard | check /var/lib/nova/instances/_base on your compute node | 14:26 |
| kbringard | you may have a 0 byte file | 14:26 |
| huslage | zero lentgh | 14:26 |
| kbringard | yea | 14:26 |
| kbringard | delete it | 14:26 |
| kbringard | and try again | 14:26 |
| viraptor | is there any document listing what changes need to be done to the system when migrating from cactus to d2? | 14:27 |
| kbringard | compute thinks the image is there, because the name matches | 14:27 |
| huslage | lazy | 14:27 |
| kbringard | but the image is 0 byte, so it can't load it | 14:27 |
| huslage | here we go | 14:27 |
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| huslage | working now | 14:27 |
| kbringard | w00t, nice | 14:28 |
| huslage | no viraptor | 14:28 |
| viraptor | huslage: no, as in no changes are needed or noone wrote the doc yet? | 14:29 |
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| huslage | no one wrote the doc, viraptor | 14:29 |
| huslage | is there any way to add metadata to an instance? like a description? | 14:29 |
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| viraptor | huslage: ok, thanks | 14:29 |
| fulc | hi, can anyone spend a few minutes on private chat with me for a few questions? :) | 14:29 |
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| anp | Hi with mysql I am using --auth_driver=nova.auth.dbdriver.DbDriver in nova.conf | 14:38 |
| anp | is this correct | 14:38 |
| kbringard | hmmm, are you using mysql for everything? | 14:39 |
| kbringard | I think you want --sql_connection=mysql://user:pass@/host/db | 14:39 |
| kbringard | err, sorry @host/db | 14:39 |
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| jaypipes | kbringard: that multiple glance servers patch has thrown a monkey wrench into a bunch of people's setups... | 15:05 |
| kbringard | yea, it took me a few minutes to catch it | 15:05 |
| jaypipes | kbringard: took me a few *hours* last night. :( | 15:06 |
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| kbringard | I wonder if it wouldn't behoove us to add back in the old flags as well | 15:06 |
| kbringard | if [ -z glance_api_servers ] && [ ! -z glance_host ]; then ... | 15:06 |
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| kbringard | except... obviously in python and not shell ;-) | 15:07 |
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| vishy | yes we should be more careful about breaking flags | 15:11 |
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| vishy | another one that is going to be painful is the removal of local image service | 15:11 |
| vishy | no one bothered to write a migration script | 15:11 |
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| coggy | hi, quick question: is there a timeout for allocated ip addresses? instead of reuse of previously deallocated ip addresses, i get instances stuck at "networking" | 15:14 |
| hankj_ | Performance question: on a small config with a heavy load of small PUTs, seeing very erratic response times, Some PUTs have very long latencies. It appears one disk at a time gets too busy, perhaps because of background replication, etc. Does any of this ring a bell? | 15:15 |
| notmyname | hankj_: for swift? | 15:16 |
| hankj_ | Swift, 2 proxies, 8 storage servers x 12 disks | 15:17 |
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| notmyname | hankj_: swift adds a transaction time to each log message. one way to further diagnose the problem is to see what requests (or what kind of requests) have unusual transaction times | 15:17 |
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| notmyname | hankj_: and you can use the logged transaction id to tie together different log lines from different swift servers | 15:18 |
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| notmyname | hankj_: but as far as solving the problem, if it is a matter of replication slowing things down, you may need to look in to tuning timeouts or replication settings or even rsync settings to lower the load on the system | 15:19 |
| creiht | hankj_: once you identified the slower requests, I would also check to see if there are any commonalities (ie. same machine, or same hard drive, or specific errors in the error logs) | 15:20 |
| creiht | You may have a config or hardware issue | 15:20 |
| hankj_ | yes, looked in syslog. long puts have one of three replicas that takes a very long time (seconds). The guilty server has one disk that is very busy at the time, also with long latency in the same range | 15:20 |
| notmyname | hankj_: is it always the same drive in the same server? | 15:20 |
| creiht | hankj_: is this a test or production system? | 15:21 |
| hankj_ | at any one time it is the same server, haven't tracked it down to the drive (how?) From time to time a different disk becomes hot. | 15:22 |
| hankj_ | test system, just getting familiar with swift | 15:22 |
| creiht | k | 15:22 |
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| creiht | hankj_: you can turn off the aux services (replication, auditors, etc.) and try the test again to see if there is any difference | 15:23 |
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| creiht | that will let you know if it is related to those | 15:23 |
| creiht | as to which disk, you can get the transaction id from the proxy log of the slow request, and grep the storage node log for that id | 15:23 |
| creiht | the url in the request will have the drive in it | 15:24 |
| hankj_ | ok, thanks for the suggestions | 15:24 |
| hankj_ | will try them | 15:24 |
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| creiht | hankj_: what version of swift are you running? | 15:25 |
| hankj_ | good question. someone else installed it. how do I check? | 15:25 |
| hankj_ | I think 1.3 | 15:25 |
| notmyname | creiht: we should add the version number to the /healthcheck | 15:26 |
| creiht | notmyname: that is a very good idea | 15:26 |
| creiht | hankj_: on one of the machines run: python -c "import swift; print swift.__version__" | 15:27 |
| notmyname | hankj_: python -c "import swift; print swift.__version__" | 15:27 |
| creiht | lol | 15:27 |
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| NashTrash | Hello Openstack'ers! | 15:30 |
| NashTrash | Need a little help. | 15:30 |
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| NashTrash | A user is trying to execute euca-authorize to open some ports and is getting an "Unauthorized Request" error. | 15:31 |
| NashTrash | I have given the user netadmin and sysadmin roles. What else do I need to do? | 15:31 |
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| vishy | NashTrash: give the netadmin project role too | 15:31 |
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| NashTrash | vishy: The user has both roles at the global and project level | 15:32 |
| vishy | is the user a member of the project? | 15:32 |
| NashTrash | Yes, they are the admin for the project | 15:32 |
| vishy | hmm | 15:32 |
| NashTrash | In the nova-api log I get this: Unauthorized request for controller=CloudController and action=AuthorizeSecurityGroupIngress | 15:33 |
| NashTrash | I see them authenticate, but they are not authorized | 15:33 |
| vishy | nova-manage role has <user> netadmin <project> returns True? | 15:33 |
| NashTrash | root@cloudfront1:~# nova-manage role has johnwilliams netadmin meta_analysis | 15:34 |
| NashTrash | True | 15:34 |
| vishy | and you're sure that he is using the right access_key for that user and project? | 15:34 |
| NashTrash | I will have them double check, but how could they authenticate with the wrong key | 15:34 |
| vishy | well they could be specifying the wrong project | 15:35 |
| vishy | perhaps using another project that they don't have netadmin? | 15:36 |
| vishy | that is the only thing that i can think of offhand | 15:36 |
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| NashTrash | Just had him double check, and he really appears to be using the right keys. He is not part of any other projects | 15:39 |
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| vishy | NashTrash: for sanity, can he create security groups? | 15:42 |
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| NashTrash | He has created the default group. But think that happens automatically | 15:43 |
| vishy | or allocate addresses? | 15:43 |
| NashTrash | Let me see…one second | 15:43 |
| vishy | yes default is created automatically | 15:43 |
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| NashTrash | Not able to allocate address and not able to add group. All are Unauthorized. | 15:45 |
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| vishy | sounds like there is some very odd issue with netadmin role | 15:45 |
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| vishy | i don't know how to solve this without throwing some debugs in ec2/__init__.py authorizer | 15:46 |
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| vishy | to try and find out why it is ending up unauthorized | 15:47 |
| NashTrash | vishy: He is able to create VMs, so sysadmin seems to work. | 15:47 |
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| vishy | NashTrash: if he is the projectmanager for the project, it could be using that role | 15:50 |
| vishy | sysadmin may not work either | 15:50 |
| NashTrash | vishy: sysadmin seems to work. He was able to spawn a VM for that project. | 15:50 |
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| NashTrash | vishy: Yes, I believe he is the projectmanager | 15:51 |
| vishy | aye but he is projectmanager | 15:51 |
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| NashTrash | Yes, DB shows him in the project_manager column | 15:51 |
| NashTrash | I can change the project_manager to someone else | 15:51 |
| vishy | i don't see anything obvious that would be failing there | 15:52 |
| vishy | i'm suspecting maybe a unicode vs string mismatch somewhere? | 15:52 |
| vishy | but I think you really need to add some more logging around the warning that is popping up | 15:52 |
| vishy | to find out why the netadmin check is failing | 15:52 |
| vishy | i've never seen this one before | 15:53 |
| NashTrash | Ok. I am not a python guru, could you provide any insights into what I should try? | 15:53 |
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| vishy | NashTrash: I would log the value of allowed_roles | 15:54 |
| NashTrash | Ok. | 15:54 |
| vishy | NashTrash: and context.project.has_role(context.user_id, 'netadmin') | 15:55 |
| vishy | perhaps context.project.name as well | 15:55 |
| vishy | and context.user_id just to see if there are any odd values in there | 15:55 |
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| vishy | NashtTrash: are you running multiple nova-api servers? | 15:57 |
| vishy | NashTrash: ^ | 15:57 |
| NashTrash | vishy: Yes. Two nova-api servers. | 15:57 |
| vishy | i just had an idea | 15:57 |
| vishy | ah that is the problem! | 15:57 |
| vishy | your cache is invalid | 15:58 |
| NashTrash | Do tell. | 15:58 |
| NashTrash | Ok. | 15:58 |
| vishy | restart them! | 15:58 |
| vishy | :) | 15:58 |
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| vishy | so you need to run memcached | 15:58 |
| vishy | or restart nova-api when you change roles | 15:58 |
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| NashTrash | Restart nova-api for every role change? | 15:59 |
| vishy | because it caches the roles and they aren't invalidated | 15:59 |
| vishy | or install memcached | 15:59 |
| NashTrash | between nova-api and the mysql? | 15:59 |
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| vishy | and set memcached_servers flag | 15:59 |
| NashTrash | Let me see if a nova-api restart helps out. | 16:00 |
| vishy | if you have one nova-api and you set roles through the api instead of nova-manage you don't have to worry about it | 16:00 |
| NashTrash | I am strictly using nova-manage | 16:00 |
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| vishy | role checking is extremely slow through ldap so the caching was added to speed it up | 16:02 |
| vishy | fortunately the memcached solution is pretty simple | 16:03 |
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| vishy | just apt-get memcached and python-memcache | 16:03 |
| vishy | and set the flag and you are good | 16:03 |
| masada | Bryan, you find out if OS supports vms? | 16:04 |
| NashTrash | nova-api restart worked. | 16:04 |
| NashTrash | I like the memcached route. Let's give it a try! | 16:04 |
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| vishy | cool! gtg | 16:04 |
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| NashTrash | Thanks again. Beyond the memcached_servers flag, is there any other config necessary? | 16:05 |
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| masada | Is openstack ready for production hosting or is it still more in development? | 16:32 |
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| btorch | masada: what openstack-swift is production ready | 16:37 |
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| masada | so just the storage portion? are there major problems with nova? | 16:47 |
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| tux78 | euca-bundle-image -i ttylinux-uec-amd64-12.1_2.6.35-22_1-vmlinuz --kernel true is giving a Invalid cert error. I created the certificate with nova-manage earlier. How I use it with bungle image? | 17:03 |
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| vishy | masada: no major issues, but it requires a bit of expertise to get running and keep it running at the moment | 17:07 |
| vishy | masada: we are ironing out as many of those issues as possible for the diablo release | 17:07 |
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| tux78 | ok. I found the issue. Even though the error message was Invalid. It was looking at /root/cert.pem instead of /root/creds/cert.pem. I just moved the keys and cert to /root and works | 17:13 |
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| tomh_ | swift question: has anyone brought up swift on hp hardware and had to deal with hpsa driver renumbering luns, so /dev/sdd becomes /dev/sdc on reboot if the real sdc dies? we were think of dealing it by putting a persistent label on the device so we know where to mount it (always) | 17:19 |
| tomh_ | also: has anyone come across any gotchas with fsck stalling swift startup? tks tom_ | 17:19 |
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| masada | vishy: thanks for the info. we are currently looking at investing quite a bit into vmware, however openstack was brought forward as an option. | 17:22 |
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| gentt | Hello, I am Gent from Kosovo. | 17:35 |
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| gentt | I would like to join the community, I am currently involved in many FOSS projects such as FLOSSK,Fedora Project,Mozilla etc | 17:36 |
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| mnaser | gentt: there's a contributing page on the Wiki that explains how to get started | 17:40 |
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| gentt | mnaser, I will check it right now | 17:45 |
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| jaypipes | gentt: welcome :) as mnaser said, http://wiki.openstack.org/HowToContribute is a great place to start | 17:55 |
| jaypipes | gentt: what areas are you interested in? We could use help over on the Glance project if you're interested in the image management part of things... | 17:56 |
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| bsza | wonder if someone can confirm my understanding of swift handoff nodes for objects. Copies of PUT data may end up on handoff nodes if one or more of the nodes responsible for the partition responble for that object is down. It seems that GETs may also read the data from handoff nodes. Its not clear to me that works all the time because it seems to depend on the ordering of of an array and handoff nodes could be down during the put. | 17:58 |
| jaypipes | creiht, notmyname, redbo: ^^ | 17:59 |
| gentt | jaypipes, I am not a good programmer. I only know basic things. I could help on docs, l10n etc | 18:00 |
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| notmyname | bsza: correct. that's where the eventual consistency comes in | 18:00 |
| jaypipes | gentt: any help is welcomed. :) email me at jaypipes@gmail.com and I'll point you to some low-hanging fruit | 18:00 |
| redbo | bsza: For PUTs, it tries primary nodes first, then handoff nodes, until it runs out of nodes to try or it gets 3 backend servers that can accept the PUT. GETs never go to handoff nodes, IIRC. | 18:01 |
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| redbo | s/3/whatever your configured number of replicas is | 18:01 |
| bsza | notmyname: you mean the replicator will sort it | 18:01 |
| bsza | redbo: it looks to me like gets do iter_node, which includes handoffs | 18:01 |
| notmyname | bsza: I think there is get_additional_nodes (or something like that) that actually gets the handoff nodes | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | bsza: I'm not looking at that part of the code right now, but I don't think GETs do handoff nodes | 18:03 |
| bsza | notmyname: get_more_nodes. But the get calls an iterator that first returns the 'expected' nodes, then the handoffs | 18:03 |
| notmyname | ok :-) | 18:03 |
| redbo | bsza: yeah, you're right. I forgot we had limited it with the "attempts" counter instead of just using the primary nodes. | 18:04 |
| bsza | notmyname, redbo: ok thanks | 18:05 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #809479 in openstack-ci "gerrit integration test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809479 | 18:12 |
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| tux78 | I have "network_manager=nova.network.manager.VlanManager" in nova.conf do I still need to set up with nova-manage network? | 18:15 |
| tux78 | I was able register the image but my instance starts goes to networking then says shutdown. So my network setup is probably not right. | 18:15 |
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| bsza | notmyname, redbo: actually the attempts counter limits GETs to the replica count. So no handoff nodes for gets | 18:38 |
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| gentt | jaypipes, i just forwarded your email to a fedora/redhat employee with big respect from the community | 18:40 |
| gentt | jaypipes, and she is going to find the best men or women :D for the job ;) | 18:41 |
| redbo | bsza: yeah, but if it can't connect to a server entirely, it doesn't count as an attempt. Sort of a complicated story, I guess. | 18:41 |
| jaypipes | gentt: awesome, thank you! Could really use your help in the Fedora doc areas! | 18:41 |
| gentt | jaypipes, pleasure mine | 18:43 |
| mnaser | jaypipes: mind a quick pm re: glance? | 18:44 |
| jaypipes | mnaser: any time. | 18:44 |
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| jaypipes | mnaser: if the question's answer is generally useful for people, though, might be good to discuss on channel... | 18:44 |
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| NashTrash | Has anyone used "virsh save | 18:52 |
| NashTrash | …" and | 18:52 |
| NashTrash | …"virsh restore" on a cloud VM? Is there an impact on the DCHP addresses? | 18:53 |
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| tux78 | was nova-manage network changed somewhat in diablo2? | 19:04 |
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| devcamcar | tux78: there were some recent changes due to the multi-nic patch i believe. can you be more specific? | 19:07 |
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| heckj | tux78 - the commands changed in trunk, but not in diablo2 - you'll see them hit in diablo3 | 19:12 |
| tux78 | when I try something like this "nova-manage network create private 192.168..0.0/24 1 255" I get this --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf does not match any options: | 19:14 |
| tux78 | Even nova-manage network list does not work | 19:15 |
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| tux78 | something screwed up nova-manage user list is also giving this prompt --flagfile=/etc/nova/nova.conf does not match any options: | 19:18 |
| tux78 | ok. I had a typo in nova.conf ...phew...:) | 19:21 |
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| moimm | hi, i had just begin with openstack swift and nova, can someone tell me please if it is possible to use swift to store the volumes for nova?? | 19:43 |
| notmyname | moimm: yes. using glance | 19:43 |
| moimm | i'm talking about volumes not images, is it possible?? | 19:44 |
| creiht | well you can use it to store the initial images, but for attachable volumes you can not | 19:44 |
| creiht | you want to use nova volume service for that | 19:44 |
| notmyname | moimm: oops. misread. sorry for the misinfo | 19:45 |
| moimm | notmyname: it does not matter :) thx | 19:46 |
| moimm | creiht : can you please tell me why ?? | 19:46 |
| creiht | moimm: swift is an object store, similar in purpose to amazon S3, not EBS | 19:47 |
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| moimm | creiht : thanks :) | 19:47 |
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| creiht | I wish there was an easier way to explain these things without having to compare to amazon services :/ | 19:48 |
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| moimm | creiht : yes , it answers to my question :) thank you for your help | 19:49 |
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| tux78 | nova-manage delete <network> saying "Command failed, please check log for more info | 20:12 |
| tux78 | " | 20:12 |
| tux78 | I made a mistake in the network address, how do i delete and start again | 20:12 |
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| tux78 | ok. had to disassoicate the project first with nova-manage project scrub <project_name>. Then delete worked :) | 20:20 |
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| NashTrash | vishy: Hey Vishy, I just upgrade a bunch of machines from Ubntu 10.10 to 11.04 and also took them from D1 to D2. Some of them are now getting a strange error when trying to start a VM. Do you have a moment to take a look? | 20:29 |
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| NashTrash | vishy: http://paste.openstack.org/show/1885/ | 20:30 |
| NashTrash | vishy: Maybe a never mind. Looks like a libvirt restart may solve the problem. | 20:31 |
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| masada | can someone explain how cloudstack and stackops fit into the openstack picture? | 20:36 |
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| masada | are they more of a complete hosting platform? | 20:36 |
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| mattray | masada: StackOps are a commercially supported variant of OpenStack | 20:39 |
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| mattray | masada: based off of Cactus I believe | 20:40 |
| mattray | masada: CloudStack is Cloud.com's codebase, open core and not currently based off of OpenStack I believe | 20:40 |
| mattray | masada: though they were planning on moving to OpenStack eventually | 20:40 |
| masada | mattray: thanks for the info. Is openstack ready for a production IaaS offerings? | 20:41 |
| bpaluch | can someone point me to the github repo that has that fancy script that installs everything including dashboard on one machine? | 20:41 |
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| masada | mattray: We're currently looking to offer a private cloud to some of our customers as a value add, and given the cost of vmware, openstack was suggested as a solid candidate. | 20:42 |
| mattray | masada: there are definitely public offerings out there of Swift, a sprinkling of Nova | 20:42 |
| mattray | masada: definitely in private cloud scenarios | 20:42 |
| masada | mattray: is it missing some building blocks to offer such servies? | 20:42 |
| mattray | masada: there are a lot of people ramping up on OpenStack right now, the Diablo release (September) is going to have many public installations | 20:43 |
| mattray | masada: not missing, just hard to deploy currently | 20:43 |
| mattray | masada: which is why folks like StackOps, Piston and Rackspace Cloud Builders are around | 20:43 |
| mattray | masada: think of OpenStack like the early Linux distributions. Today we're in the Yggdrasil stages | 20:44 |
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| mattray | masada: soon there will be Debian, SUSE and RHEL :) | 20:44 |
| masada | mattray: that makes perfect sense. So with respect to long term service offerings, I get the impression that OpenStack is a bit premature for commercial grade offerings? | 20:44 |
| masada | mattray: or does it just require a bunch of work under the hood that most people wont bother with? | 20:45 |
| mattray | masada: not really. I know there are many large scale deployments ramping up right now | 20:45 |
| mattray | masada: yeah, it still requires a lot of tweaking and domain experience | 20:46 |
| mattray | masada: which is why the different service companies are sprouting up | 20:46 |
| notmyname | masada: there are several commercial deployments of swift currently | 20:46 |
| mattray | but if you need assistance, there are lots of choices | 20:46 |
| annegentle | bpaluch: I think this one is what you want: https://github.com/cloudbuilders/deploy.sh/raw/master/nova.sh | 20:46 |
| creiht | masada: I know you guys are most likely talking about Nova, but I would also just like to add in there that swift is more than ready for production :) | 20:47 |
| bpaluch | yep thats it. Thanks anne! | 20:47 |
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| masada | mattray: Yeah I think Nova was the key. Swift is a bit over my head personally but there's likely other guys that see the light. | 20:47 |
| masada | sorry, creiht | 20:47 |
| creiht | no worries, I understand | 20:47 |
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| masada | we're currently having some vmware guys ram marketing material down our throats right now. | 20:48 |
| mattray | masada: Swift is definitely deployed a lot of places already, Nova's getting there | 20:48 |
| creiht | most people here tend to talk about Nova, but always want to make sure that people understand that swift it production ready | 20:48 |
| mattray | creiht: for sure | 20:48 |
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| masada | seems they are making a huge push right now to get everyone into contracts ont eh VSPP program, however it seems very interesting that they cant multi-tennant it properly right now. | 20:49 |
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| masada | creiht: is nova used mostly for CDN's or whats its primary target? | 20:52 |
| notmyname | spectorclan: the convirture link on http://www.openstack.org/community/companies/ is broken | 20:52 |
| creiht | masada: you mean swift? | 20:52 |
| creiht | It is for object storage, very similar to Amazon's S3 | 20:53 |
| masada | sorry yes. | 20:53 |
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| masada | creiht: Thanks for all the help. | 20:56 |
| masada | creiht: all makes sense on the swift side of things. | 20:56 |
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| creiht | np | 20:56 |
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| liemmn | I tried to post to openstack@lists.launchpad.net; but, I don't see my email shown; I am able to get all the subscription notices though... Do we have an admin for the mailing list? Thanks in advance. | 20:59 |
| creiht | liemmn: sometimes it can take a while for the launchapd mailing lists to catch up | 21:01 |
| liemmn | ok, thanks... I will wait :) | 21:02 |
| creiht | if it doesn't show up in a couple of hours, then I would ask again :) | 21:02 |
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| NashTrash | Hello All. | 21:17 |
| NashTrash | Is there a means to upload an existing public key to nova so that it is injected on VM creation? | 21:17 |
| creiht | liemmn: I just saw your message come through on the list :) | 21:19 |
| jaypipes | liemmn: your message went into the moderation queue... should be good now... | 21:20 |
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| liemmn | Sweet! thanks again :-D | 21:21 |
| kbringard_ | NashTrash: I don't think there is an API call to do it, but you could inject it into the DB directly | 21:22 |
| NashTrash | kbringard_: Do you need to inject both the public key and the fingerprint? | 21:22 |
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| kbringard_ | I would, just to be safe | 21:23 |
| NashTrash | I never did before and things worked, but I just upgraded to D2 and now ssh is failing on the public key. | 21:23 |
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| kbringard_ | update key_pairs set fingerprint = 'ab:cd:de:f0', public_key = 'ssh-rsa sdlkfjsladkjf;alskjdf;lkjsdl;fsad....' where name = @key_name | 21:24 |
| kbringard_ | but in truth I'm not entirely sure, I've never actually done it | 21:24 |
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| kbringard_ | but I can't see why it wouldn't work | 21:24 |
| kbringard_ | all that cloud-init does is query the meta-api, which pulls from the key_pairs table | 21:25 |
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| liemmn | A question on Keystone... For token validation, there is a "belongsTo" query parameter; but, it is not being used in the code (service.py). What is the intention of this parameter, or am I looking at old documentation (or missing code)? Thanks. | 21:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #809570 in nova "Migrate will change instance_type_id of instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809570 | 21:31 |
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| NashTrash | kbringard_: I set the fingerprint and it works now. Love them cloud goblins. | 21:47 |
| knighthacker | liemmn: I haven't touched that code in a while, but I think it was intended so that you validate that a specific token belongs to a specific tenant. | 21:47 |
| NashTrash | Bye ya'll | 21:47 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #809587 in nova "Resize revert applies wrong flavor to original instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809587 | 21:51 |
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| liemmn | knighthacker: Yes, that makes sense... I just don't see the code that does the validation in the latest keystone; so, just wondering which one is correct, the api or the code. | 21:56 |
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| Pentheus_ | Good afternoon, does anyone have any suggestions for documentation material material on upgrading swift deployments. The upgrade release notes are a little light. | 21:58 |
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| Pentheus_ | Specifically, we are going from 1.0.99 to Bexar, or first to Cactus if that makese more sense | 21:59 |
| Pentheus_ | If we are on our own for that, that is fine, but just wanted to make sure I didn't miss some obvious helpful document | 22:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #809593 in nova "allocate_fixed_ip causes unexpected keyword argument 'vpn'" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809593 | 22:11 |
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| _vinay | Hi, | 22:36 |
| _vinay | I am trying to install diablo M2 | 22:36 |
| rupakg | anyone has an idea why I am getting a 404 on a Nova call: /v1.1/servers/13/ips.json | 22:36 |
| _vinay | Is there a doc for steps needed | 22:37 |
| rupakg | this is the list addresses call | 22:37 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #809614 in nova "Disk Clean up on Build Failure in XenServer" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/809614 | 22:41 |
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| _vinay | The latest nova-manage doesnt seem to have "network" command in there | 22:48 |
| _vinay | any ideas?? | 22:48 |
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| zedas | hey, style question, i see this pattern sometimes in nova code: def run_instance(self, context, instance_id, **kwargs): self._run_instance(context, instance_id, **kwargs) | 22:49 |
| zedas | is there a reason you have a method that just calls another method with the same name but an underscore? | 22:50 |
| _vinay | nova-manage db sync ... This also doesnt work ... "db" command not found | 22:51 |
| _vinay | I am trying to find out what changed... any pointers please ?? thanks | 22:52 |
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| kpepple | _vinay: are you running nova-manage as root ? does it come back with a list of available commands or just a stack trace ? | 22:57 |
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| mnaser | trunk can't create servers anymore, fun :< | 22:59 |
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| masada | with respect to building a testing environment with OpenStack, doesnt putting the cloud inside the cloud fundamentally break the internet? | 23:08 |
| masada | will our office implode? | 23:08 |
| kpepple | masada: just to be safe, we unplug the microwaves when we do that here | 23:09 |
| masada | kpepple: can't. the boys are making plasma in ours. | 23:09 |
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| medberry | masada, russian stacking clouds (like the Matryoshka dolls)... hmmm, there's already something geek called Matroska though.... | 23:14 |
| masada | interesting thought... Matryoshka Cloud | 23:16 |
| masada | actually, on the other hand... perhaps we're just playing with fire on this. | 23:16 |
| masada | I dont want my legacy to be the implosion of the interweb. | 23:16 |
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| countspongebob_ | This question is one of nested virtualization, correct? | 23:25 |
| countspongebob_ | Are there processor restrictions on nested virtualization to take note of? | 23:25 |
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| masada | yeah we nested the build inside a virtual infastructure for testing. | 23:26 |
| masada | seems to work fine. | 23:26 |
| countspongebob_ | kvm or xen? | 23:26 |
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| kpepple | countspongebob_: as long as you use UML, you should be safe with pretty much anything ... i use the vagrant for it mostly | 23:27 |
| masada | we're trying kvm. i dont know if xen is worth it. | 23:27 |
| masada | inf act, perhaps someone here knows if xen is actually better for production? | 23:27 |
| countspongebob_ | masada: you running on intel or AMD gear for nested? Someone told me that it might work right only on opteron. | 23:28 |
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| masada | intel. | 23:28 |
| countspongebob_ | Guess I should ask your kernel version | 23:29 |
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| masada | im actually checking out stackops right now. | 23:30 |
| masada | so i dont know what they used y et. | 23:30 |
| countspongebob_ | you know which distro? | 23:31 |
| masada | im pretty sure they use ubuntu | 23:31 |
| masada | if i build from scratch i think we will use centos and hten just use openstack without all the crap. | 23:31 |
| countspongebob_ | 10.04 or 11.04? Would be first indicator | 23:31 |
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| kpepple | stackops uses 10.04 LTS and KVM | 23:33 |
| masada | kpepple: thanks | 23:34 |
| countspongebob_ | Likewise, thanks. | 23:34 |
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