Wednesday, 2011-08-17

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OutBackDingodeshantm: ping01:08
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thickskinis there someone who from NTT japan?02:10
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uvirtbotNew bug: #827807 in nova "in multi_host nova-network mode, nova-network doesn't reassociate reassociate the floating ips on reboot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82780705:02
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Nar_i have a question about Glance. Does the meta data include configuration of Virtual Machine, like CPU, Memory size etc.? Where is that captured and in what format?06:18
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kpeppleNar_: glance doesn't hold information about run-time instances, it just holds images to be used for those instances. The configuration details you are looking for are called instance_types or flavors and reside in the nova database.06:23
Nar_cool. thanks.06:24
Nar_do you know how you create a VM on a ESX server?06:25
Nar_do you clone? or create VM and attach the disk?06:25
Nar_i am trying to understand whether the solution openstack offers expect vcenter to be present06:25
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kpeppleNar_: i believe it speaks directly to the VMware ESX server via VMware API ... from the code, it appears that it creates a dummy vmdk, then replaces it with an image from glance, then adds the disk and powers it up. the gory details are in nova/virt/vmwareapi/vmops.py06:30
Nar_great. thanks06:31
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Nar_kpepple_: Do you work for Rackspace? Or a open source contributor?06:32
kpeppleNar_: just a contributor06:32
kpeppleNar_: the code you are talking about was written by Citrix actually ...06:32
Nar_how long does it take to understand and start contributing if you are beginner in python but an expert in Java programming06:33
Nar_cool06:33
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alekibangoNar_: first you learn python for few hours. then you are productive.06:33
alekibangoNar_: well but openstack is rather complex... :) but thats not the fault of python06:34
kpeppleNar_: i think the python is pretty simple to pick up ... there are a lot of new libraries to explore but the core language is pretty easy once you come to terms with its pecularities (white space)06:34
Nar_the primary mode of communication is irc chat? or how do you guys collaborate?06:34
alekibangoNar_: irc, launchpad, github, mail06:34
Nar_are you guys living in bay area by any chance06:35
alekibangoand wiki...06:35
kpeppleNar_: occassional design summits ... but mostly irc, email and launchpad (our github)06:35
kpeppleNar_: yes, a lot of bay area people. but also a lot just spread out everywhere.06:35
Nar_kpepple, alekibango: are you guys committors as well?06:36
alekibangoNar_: yes iam proud coauthor06:37
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alekibangoi commited few lines06:37
alekibango:)06:37
Nar_well congrats!06:37
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alekibangojust few, but it was experience :)06:37
kpeppleNar_: only about 25 commits ... the main people are at rackspace, citrix, rackspace cloud builders and some startups06:37
alekibangoNar_: when you contribute just a bit, its life changing event... everytime06:37
Nar_yeah true06:38
alekibangoits the moment you stop being consumer06:38
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Nar_so you guys using openstack yourselves and do some enhancements?06:38
alekibangoand start being leader06:38
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alekibangoNar_: openstack has different projects in different state06:38
Nar_how long does it take to become a commiter and what should you have to get that?06:39
Nar_ok06:39
alekibangoNar_: you need to get oriented at launchpad - github06:39
alekibangoyou need to sign license agreement06:39
alekibangoyou need to pick some area for improvement06:40
alekibango:)06:40
alekibangoand if you are lucky, your improvement will get upstream06:40
Nar_got it06:40
Nar_thanks guys06:40
alekibangosometimes someone else is faster... sometimes you bring more problems than answers... and thats when you work in wain06:40
alekibangobut thats life06:41
kpeppleNar_: not too long, but first commit is painful ... just pick a bug or something simple and hang out to get someone to help you through the first commit ... after that it's easy (bunch of stuff you need to do once and never again)06:41
alekibangokpepple: yes, painfull, life changing !  hehe06:41
ncikpepple: may I ask you a question about swift? Or are you mostly concerned with nova stuff.06:41
kpepplenci: i mostly do nova ... but we have a swift installation. is it easy ? :)06:42
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alekibangomy life totally changed when i send few lines of shell code into some linux magazine in 199X...  i started being contributor... and i see life differently from that time06:42
alekibangonci: dont ask to ask, just ask06:43
nciI was wondering if all traffic goes through the proxy node? Meaning bandwidth is limited by NICs in the proxy machine06:43
alekibangoyou can have more proxy nodes....06:44
ncidoes that add bandwidth or redundancy?06:44
kpepplenci: yes, end users talk to the proxy node and the proxy node talks to objects / container / account processes.06:44
alekibangonci: i never try, but i guess both06:44
kpepplenci: you'll need lots of proxy nodes (with a good load balancer) for a lot of traffic06:44
alekibangotried806:44
alekibangotried**06:44
nciah thanks. I saw a paper called pWalrus...http://www.pdl.cmu.edu/pWalrus/index.shtml06:45
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nciWe are running lustre, and are interested in putting swift on top of that as an additional way for people to access their data. I think the process may be similar to what these guys did with walrus06:46
alekibangonci: nova is object storage. not filesystem06:46
alekibangonci: what do you think about ceph_06:47
alekibango???06:47
alekibangoimho ceph should go production ready in a month or so06:47
nciceph?06:47
alekibangothat might be lustre killer06:47
alekibangoimho06:47
kpepplenci: looks interesting ... the details on how they map permissions and metadata between the two data access layers would be key there.06:48
alekibangohttp://ceph.newdream.net/06:48
alekibangoit should be nice and fast... i am not sure about reliability though06:49
ncialekibango: this looks very interesting. We are already doing a lot of this with out current lustre deployment06:49
ncieg striping.06:49
ncikpepple: We're thinking of having a crack at it over the summer, but I'm not sure if there are already groups working on something similar. The aim would be to do it without changes to lustre.06:51
ncisummer = NA winter ... my bad06:51
alekibangoi think lustre is just crazy. its so complicated...06:51
alekibangoeven more than simple soap06:52
alekibangolol06:52
kpepplenci: i haven't heard anything on lustre. but a lot of cloud storage is being worked on ... gluster for openstack, ceph, etc.06:52
nciWe're an HPC facility, so copmlicated is OK if we get good performance.06:52
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alekibangoand sheepdog06:52
alekibangoyou know sheepdog?06:52
nciI havne't heard of it06:53
alekibango ##sheepdog06:53
alekibangonci: join, see topic06:53
alekibangowell. ok, here is the url:   http://www.osrg.net/sheepdog/06:53
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alekibangoits developed in japanese telecom06:54
nciinteresting06:54
alekibangonot used in production yet but looks interesting too06:54
alekibangoi would love to see how you people compare those projects06:54
alekibangoif it was eating your data alive... or if its reliable06:55
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ncihow we choose things when we deploy something? Actually it's been pretty simple for a while. We have a guy who knows the lustre source very well, so we use that!06:56
alekibangonci: its always this way... we know how to use hammer, so we use hammer...06:56
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alekibangojust few people have will to investigate possibilities06:57
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nciI think the main competition last time I checked was GPFS. GPFS works really well when one writer is able to "own" each file, because the writer is responsible for locks. When you have many writers on one file performance drops quite nastily.06:58
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alekibangonci: ceph looks best... just having it stable is my dream06:58
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eviscaresGood morning.06:59
siwoshello06:59
alekibangomorning06:59
siwoscan anybody tell me which scheduler is used by openstack by default06:59
siwosI guess it's the chance scheduler06:59
siwosthe other question is - where to set the scheduler06:59
alekibangoset = in config in /etc/nova07:00
eviscaresI'm running into walls left and right while trying to make swift work with cyberduck. I'm using swift 1.42 and cyberduck 4.01, but somehow it doesn't work at all. It connects but then it tries to list the directory and comes up with an XML error. Has anyone an idea on how to fix this?07:00
alekibangoeviscares: i will try it when it will work on linux07:00
alekibangosiwos: there are for sure some docs on wiki or in guide07:01
alekibangoon setting the scheduler07:01
eviscaresalekibango:  that is sadly not an option for me, as my boss wants to see it working on a mac.07:01
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praveen_Hi All07:01
siwosthere are - there's the flag mentioned which should be set, but no potential values mentioned ;-)07:01
alekibangosorry. GNU+linux only on my system :)07:02
siwosI'm trying to switch to the simple scheudler07:02
alekibangosiwos: look it up in source code07:02
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praveen_I am facing issue in running nova instances, can any one help me here07:02
alekibangopraveen_: dont ask to ask07:02
alekibangojust try it07:02
siwosalekibango: that's what I'm doin now07:02
siwosok guys - thanks for help07:02
alekibangosiwos: found it?07:03
praveen_I am facing this issues with bexar release ,07:03
siwosI'll try do describe it as soon as I find it in the code ;-)07:03
siwosI'll be back ;-)07:03
praveen_ok, fine, just here I am leaving the message of problem , after running, euca-run instances , instance state will struck up at "networking" , it never schedules to "RUNNING" state07:04
alekibangosiwos:  http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/reference-for-flags-in-nova-conf.html07:04
alekibangosiwos: you said scheduler?07:05
siwosyeah07:05
siwosI know that doc already07:05
siwosit only mentions the default value07:05
eviscaresalternatively I would be glad if someone could tell me how to configure which AUTH it uses.07:05
siwosdefault: 'nova.scheduler.manager.SchedulerManager'07:05
ncieviscares: is it the XML content-type error?07:05
siwoswtf?07:05
eviscaresnci: exactly07:05
alekibangosivos:  cd nova/nova/scheduler07:05
alekibangoand look around in there07:05
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ncieviscares: I patched my swift install manually to fix it. There is a patch released somewhere, I'll find it.07:06
siwosso there's this file in the scheduler "/usr/share/pyshared/nova/scheduler/manager.py"07:06
eviscaresnci: thanks a  dozen07:06
siwosand you probably set the scheduler here07:06
siwosflags.DEFINE_string('scheduler_driver',07:06
siwos                    'nova.scheduler.chance.ChanceScheduler',07:06
siwos                    'Driver to use for the scheduler')07:06
siwosI'll check this out today07:06
ncieviscares: here's the bug - fix is in 1.4.3 https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/81209207:07
alekibangosiwos: there are other schedulers in there07:07
siwosyes07:07
siwossimple, zone, etc.07:08
ncieviscares: also I think cyberduck can do the cloudfiles API or whatever it's called. It wouldn't be affected by this bug. I assume you are accessing through S3 API?07:08
praveen_does any one faced this issue earlier,07:10
ncieviscares: here's the changes - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/swift/trunk/revision/332.2.107:11
ncipraveen_: check the nova-network log in /var/log/nova/nova-network.log.07:12
eviscaresnci:  yes I am, and thanks. I will try both07:12
praveen_I checked there, it says, NotFound: No network for bridge br10007:13
praveen_and I have seen one more trace, 2011-08-17 10:01:45,446 INFO nova.compute.manager [-] Found instance 'instance-0000000b' in DB but no VM. State=0, so assuming spawn is in progress.07:14
praveen_I have configured br100, /etc/network/interface, as per the document ....07:14
ncidid you do a nova-manage network create on the nova-network machine?07:14
eviscaresnci:  Sadly with the cloudspace api, he has the openspace url locked07:15
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siwoshello07:16
siwosso I got that ;-)07:16
eviscareshello07:16
praveen_what do you mean by  Sadly with the cloudspace api, he has the openspace url locked07:16
siwosthis is what you set07:16
siwosflags.DEFINE_string('scheduler_driver',07:16
siwos                    'nova.scheduler.simple.SimpleScheduler',07:16
siwos                    'Driver to use for the scheduler')07:16
siwosto use the simple scheduler07:16
siwosand probably zone scheduler etc. ;-)07:17
eviscarespraveen: I can't input my clusters ip there.07:17
praveen_ok, fine , but tell me the file, where should do this07:17
ncipraveen_: did you create a network using nova-manage network create?07:18
praveen_no, I have created the network, using script, whihc installs the code cluster07:18
praveen_this script internally does this , I think07:19
ncido nova-manage network list and see if it did07:19
praveen_my conf file, shows, --network_manager=nova.network.manager.FlatManager07:20
praveen_and nova-manage network list ,also shows,07:20
praveen_but the ip it shows, starts from 192.... but here my system IP start from 10.... is this correct07:21
ncieviscares: I think I am mistaken about cyberduck. It may need recompilation acording to this doc: http://cloudscaling.com/blog/company/engineering/interacting-with-swift07:21
eviscaresnci: I know I'm starting to sound really stupid, but where would I put the python file?07:21
ncieviscares: on the swift-proxy node. I think it's in /usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/swift/common/middleware07:22
ncieviscares: not stupid at all, I didn't find the location intuitive when I first looked for it07:23
eviscaresnci: thanks, I feel like a bumbling Idiot when asking so many questions.07:23
ncipraveen_: the IP range shown by network list is the subnet that VMs will get addresses on. They should be different to the IP addresses of the host machines so that sounds correct07:25
praveen_nci,  where can I check scheduler_driver07:25
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praveen_ok ,fine07:25
ncipraveen_: no idea, sorry.07:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #827830 in nova "Fails to boot server with HostFilterScheduler " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82783007:26
praveen_I am facing this issue, from past 4 days, no clue , what to do , can you please check with any other person07:26
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ncipraveen_: I'm not a developer, I just run Openstack for my organisation. I don't really have anyone else I can ask. If instances are stuck in networking it could be anything to do with nova-network. I've had that problem for a variety of reasons, but it's usually because nova-network lost connection to the database.07:28
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praveen_ok,. fine thanks for information...07:29
praveen_ll try out something here07:29
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eviscaresnci: ok changing the py just gave me another type of error.07:37
eviscaresOh, while I'm babbling away anyhow. Is it correct that I can't find the files on the HDD's but instead find weird storage files? Is this a consequence of swifts operating procedure?07:38
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ncieviscares: try testing using boto. And yeah everything will be named strangely.07:42
eviscaresnci: boto?07:42
ncieviscares: its a python S3 library. There's a piece of python code you can use to test your S3 interface is working correctly up the top of the file you were looking at earlier. You need to install python and the boto library to use it, though.07:44
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eviscaresnci: thanks07:45
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anpHi09:50
anpI have insatlled Openstack with dashboard using GridDynamics yum repo on SL 6.109:51
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anpeverything is working fine.09:51
anpBut how can I get the deafulat user name and password to login to Openstack dashboard09:52
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uvirtbotNew bug: #827913 in swift "swift-drive-audit does not work with > 26 drives" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82791310:25
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titaniumrainsoren, may i ask you a question please?10:32
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sorentitaniumrain: No need to ask permission. It's what this channel is for.11:01
anphi11:01
anpany one know how to add an user with password to access openstack -dashboard11:01
titaniumrainthanks soren, just in case that you are in the middle of something11:04
sorentitaniumrain: Then one of the other 278 people in here might answer.11:05
titaniumrain:) true11:05
sorentitaniumrain: If I'm too busy to answer, I just won't answer, but that shouldn't stop you from asking your question.11:05
titaniumrainokie dokie11:05
titaniumrainthe question is regarding merging your code source-group-filtering branch into my feature branch that is based on D211:06
titaniumraini check with your source code base, it is reasonably close to D311:06
titaniumrainshould i proceed to merge your code, it implies that I might have to upgrade to D3 which, unfortunately, a step I really want to avoid11:08
zykes-can swift run in a vpx ?11:08
titaniumrainso, it comes to the question - is your contribution relying on certain part of D3 code base? or I  can safely and manually merge your changes in to D2 code base?11:09
sorentitaniumrain: Why don't you  want to go to D3?11:10
sorenzykes-: What's a vpx?11:11
sorenVirtual Private Xylophone?11:11
sorenNo.11:11
sorenSwift doesn't run on xylophones.11:11
Davieysoren: you are *begging* to be proved wrong.11:11
sorenDaviey: I am!11:12
sorenDaviey: I would *love* to see Swift run on a xylophone.11:12
Davieywell that is the rest of my week blown out.11:12
Davieysoren: dammit, we are past feature freeze.. Maybe for Essex.11:12
sorenA Google search for "turing complete xylophone" comes up empty. You've got your work cut out for you.11:13
titaniumrainsoren: I am not maintaining the develop branch. should I upgrade to D3 in my feature branch, at the later stage, it is unlikely for me to merge my code to develop branch since the maintainer may simply reject my request,11:13
zykes-haha :p11:14
sorentitaniumrain: I don't understand.11:14
sorentitaniumrain: Noone should be using D2.11:14
sorentitaniumrain: D2 was a (semi-)random development snapshot. The rest of the world moved on and hasn't looked back.11:15
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zykes-soren: sorry i think it's what citrix calls a service vm11:16
zykes-like x VPX11:16
zykes-or something, i mean like a nova compute vm or similar11:16
sorenzykes-: Er... Sure. Why wouldn't it?11:17
zykes-just wondering :911:18
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titaniumrainsoren: i got ur point :)11:23
titaniumrainsoren: btw, how about D4? would it be a longer (semi-)stable version?11:26
anphello11:26
anpplease help me11:26
titaniumrainsoren: since your code is to be merged in that release.11:26
anphow can I add an user with password on D311:26
anpto access openstack-dashboard11:27
zykes-is there any plans from rackspace to opensource it's dns stuff ?11:27
anp:(11:30
sorentitaniumrain: No. These are just milestones. Convergence points for various parts of OpenStack.11:30
anpis it so silly question11:30
sorenanp: Not at all.11:30
anp:(11:30
anpI am stuck here11:30
sorenDude, it's been *three* minutes since you asked.11:31
anpI could not find any docs on this. I installed everything from griddynamic yum repo11:31
anpsorry soren11:31
sorenWhen someone who knows the answer shows up, they'll probably help you out.11:31
anpI started asking this from  yesterday11:31
anp:)11:32
anpok11:32
anpThanks soren11:32
sorenanp: If you got this stuff from the griddynamics guys, you could ask them.11:32
anpI already mailed them11:32
sorenanp: I've no clue how they've set things up, so I can't help you.11:32
anpThanks soren. I understand you11:33
titaniumrainsoren: thanks. it looks like that 22/09 is the big day then11:34
sorentitaniumrain: What are you actually trying to do?11:35
titaniumrain22/09 is when diablo draws to a conclusion11:35
sorenYes.11:36
titaniumrainsore: i assume that on that day, release manager would be confident to say it is reasonably stable11:36
sorenYes.11:36
titaniumrainsoren: or feature complete11:36
sorenYes.11:36
titaniumrain:)11:36
titaniumrainso, it is a big day for openstack11:36
sorenYes...11:36
sorentitaniumrain: What are *you* actually trying to *do*?11:37
sorentitaniumrain: I'll bet you didn't come in here to explain our release schedule to us :)11:37
titaniumrainsoren: i don't have clue11:38
soren??11:38
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sorenYou started out asking about some feature branch.. Why did you ask? What are you attempting to achieve?11:39
titaniumrainsoren: i am pretty interested in how openstack works actually. if i check the openstack milestones, some merges are related to blueprints, some are bug fixes.11:40
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titaniumrainsoren: but i never had a clue of how a bug is assigned and how its priority is decided11:41
titaniumrainsoren: it looks like that there would a gap when a bug is filed and when is assigned, and then is merged into lp:nova11:42
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sorentitaniumrain: Bugs are assigned when we find someone who wants to fix it.12:19
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sorentitaniumrain: Priorities are decided manually. Our fearless leader^W^Wrelease manager assigns a lot of these priorities.12:20
sorentitaniumrain: I don't understand the gap you're referring to.12:20
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sapphirehi all12:29
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sapphireI need some help from some experienced OpenStack users... anyone?12:31
deshantm_laptopsapphire: best practice is to just ask your question and be patient12:32
sapphireOK, I would like know whether OpenStack can be used to provide a "Dropbox"-like service to customers... say give 5 GB for free and charge a fee for extra space... Everything should be thin-provisioned, as I doubt that all users will actually use those 5 GB at once...12:33
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deshantm_laptopsapphire: OpenStack provides Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS), so you can build pretty much anything on top of it. You'd need to add the interface on top of OpenStack that handles the access to the backend storage that OpenStack provides12:44
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sapphiredeshantm_laptop: is there any billing application for what I propose? even from a 3rd party? or do we have to code it ourselves?12:59
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deshantm_laptopsapphire: I'm a sure that there are billing application at least in progress... not sure what is public, but you could google too13:07
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sapphiredeshantm_laptop: OK, thanks13:10
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anphi13:25
anpwhere can I find the information to configure keystone13:26
anpI have installed Diablo3 from GridDynamics  repo13:26
joesavakanp: hi - there are a couple places right now13:26
joesavakhttp://keystone.openstack.org/13:26
joesavakhttps://github.com/openstack/keystone13:27
anpThanks joesavak13:27
joesavakthere is doc work being done right now too - so the doc will get better13:28
anp:)13:29
anpthank you so much joesavak13:29
joesavaknp13:29
anp:)13:30
anpjoesavak: have you installed openstack-dashboard and keystone from GridDynamics repo?13:31
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anpor you compiled it13:31
joesavakanp - nope - i'm a noob too13:32
anpjoesavak: were you able to install keystone and dashboard?13:32
joesavakon a local  ubuntu instance, i was. What problem are you having?13:33
anpjoesavak: I have installed the dashboard and keystone13:34
anpjoesavak: but i am struggling with creating users and log in13:34
anpjoesavak: i have added users using the keystone-manage13:35
joesavakanp - 2 options on that - you can run in the sample data to get some users started, or you use keystone-manage13:35
anpbut the login is not working13:35
anphow can i use the sampe data13:35
anpjoesavak: also i think i have corrupted the keystone datbase by playing with it. How can I delete it13:36
joesavakanp - just run sampledata.sh in the bin directory. It does the keystone-manage13:36
joesavakanp -you can just replace the keystone.db in the root dir with one from the repo13:37
anpjoesavak: thanks let me try this13:38
anp:)13:38
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anpjoesavak: I dont have the sampledata.sh. Might be beacuse I am using the RHEL 6.1 than Ubuntu13:40
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anpjoesavak: it would be great if you can share the script/  a link to download this script?13:40
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anpjoesavak: never mind I got the link : https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/bin/sampledata.sh13:42
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joesavakanp: yup - that's right13:44
anpjoesavak: I see the lines like dirname $0`/keystone-manage $* endpointTemplates add RegionOne swift http://swift.publicinternets.com/v1/AUTH_%tenant_id% http://swift.admin-nets.local:8080/ http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/AUTH_%tenant_id% 1 013:44
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anpjoesavak: I should replacde all these with my IP adress? ( I am trying it on a Single Server)13:45
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joesavakanp - these are just adding endpoint templates - if you want to test login functionality - then this sample data will work13:46
joesavakanp - also 127.0.0.1 is localhost13:46
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anpjoesavak: so I can just copy this script and run for just sample data for a demo right?13:47
joesavakyes - or just run ./bin/sampledata.sh from the root install dir13:48
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anpjoesavak: Thanks man I was able to login. But with error: class Roles has no attribute 'get_default_page'13:54
joesavakanp - hmmm - i'll escalate that. I know we are making a lot of wadl & xsd changes in prep for the next sprint - so things may be in flux.13:55
anpjoesavak: Thanks man13:56
joesavakanp - can you send me the cmd you used to login? Is it curl?13:56
anpjoesavak: no I used the openstack-dashboard login page from browser13:56
joesavakanp - ok13:56
titaniumrainsoren: right. release manager does priority assignment. the gap i refer to is that if you check the bug reports in launchpad, normally it took around 4 weeks to be confirmed and then 2-3 weeks to find the right candidate and then another 2-3 weeks to fix then it comes the point of merging it.14:00
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sorentitaniumrain: I still don't see a gap. I see that we're too slow to respond to and address bugs, but that's a different problem IMO.14:16
titaniumrainsoren: i agree14:17
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dubmusic?14:46
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gnu111I have a multinode setup with FlatDHCP. 3 of my nodes are working 2 are now. They are stuck in networking mode. The setup is identical so I am not sure what is going on. Any suggestions? thanks.14:55
gnu1112 are not working.14:55
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gnu111My guess is the br100 is not created properly in the said nodes. I tried to create it by hand but that didn't help.14:58
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nilssonDoes openstack have any plans to support smartOS? (solaris+kvm)15:03
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eviscaresHas anybody else experienced Problems creating a user via swauth, in version 1.2?15:08
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kpepplenilsson: i would be interested in helping if someone is going to launch into it (i.e. SmartOS / OpenSolaris) ... being ex-Sun, would love to have access to Zones and ZFS ... assuming it runs python 2.6+ and has a libvirt, there would be a base ...15:11
nilssonkpepple, I'm running it live right now, is there anything in particular I should try on it?15:12
kpepplenilsson: check the libvirt version ... that was always a problem in the old opensolaris days15:13
kpepplenilsson: we need a fairly up to date one15:13
nilssonok, not sure how to do that15:14
kpepplenilsson: hold let me look on the linux side ... probably a virsh command15:14
nilssonhttp://www.joyent.com/products/smartos/smartos-faq/15:15
nilsson> Doesnā€™t that mean Eucalyptus, Cloud.com, and OpenStack can take advantage of SmartOS?15:15
nilsson> Yes, they can.15:15
kpepplenilsson: try $ virsh --version15:15
kpepplenilsson: "take advantage" and "work" are different things :)15:15
jtannerlibvirtd --version15:15
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kpepplejtanner: are 'virsh --version' and 'libvirtd --version' always the same ?15:17
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nilssonhm, neither seem to be installed15:19
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kpepplenilsson: pfexec pkg install libvirt ?15:22
nilssonyeah, I'm new to solaris15:23
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nilssonkpepple, nope15:23
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nilssonpkg: no such file or directory15:24
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kpepplenilsson: hmmm ... do they have a different package manager now ? I heard they adopted a different userland .... maybe try apt-get or yum instead of pkg15:25
nilssonkpepple, they say they have BSD package managment, but I haven't seen any of it yet15:26
kpepplenilsson: hmmmm ... i'm not even sure what they use then15:26
nilsson> SmartOS is comprised of the Illumos kernel (with ZFS, DTrace, OS-level virtualization and next-generation KVM) with BSD package management and a GNU toolchain.15:27
nilssonyeah, I'll look for pkg_install15:27
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nilssonkpepple, I'll ping you when I read some docs15:34
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jtanneri'm guessing i wasn't supposed to change the IP address on my nova node? seems like all the euca tools are trying to make connections to the old IP15:52
jtannerper strace15:52
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* OutBackDingo throws in the openstack / xen towel... i succumb15:55
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jtannerOutBackDingo, heh ... it's definitely a pita15:56
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OutBackDingojtanner: 1 week of fighting is too much... though it made progress.. images just refuse to launch15:57
OutBackDingoand its probably something stupid15:57
jtanneri think we're at the same point15:58
jtanneri'm having much better luck on the kvm side15:58
jtanneruntil i changed the host ip15:58
OutBackDingojtanner: open  & xensever15:58
jtanneryes15:58
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OutBackDingoi refuse to use kvm, though that was working15:58
jtannercent5 + xenserver hypervisor15:58
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jtannerubuntu domU created from a xenserver template that somehow had a PAE kernel with xen patches15:59
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OutBackDingojtanner: yupp we started with openstack and XCP.... then yesterday i decided well lets try openstack and XenServer15:59
OutBackDingosame results.......15:59
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OutBackDingothough with XenServer we can at least test the Xen Self Service portal.....16:00
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jtannermy conclusion so far is that users should align to ubuntu+kvm, unless they want to be contributors/bugfixers16:02
OutBackDingokvm is dog slow16:03
jtannerit's not bad if paravirt drivers are loaded16:03
shaoni am using this command to publish an image, [ uec-publish-image -t image --kernel-file vmlinuz-2.6.38-7-server --ramdisk-file initrd.img-2.6.38-7-server amd64 serverfinal.img bucket1 ]16:03
kpeppleOutBackDingo: curious, why did you move off XCP ? bugs or beta slip ?16:03
shaonwhat shoud i do if I have 32bit image?16:04
OutBackDingokpepple: i was curious, and the xen self service portal doesnt work with XCP, but does with XEN server, and honestly, they dont appear that much different anyway16:04
shaoni mean, what should I put instead of "amd64"?16:04
jtanneri believe you are supposed to actually put x86_6416:04
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jtannerso, i would try "x86"16:04
shaonokay, thank16:05
shaon*you16:05
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jtannershaon, looking at the code i pulled out of their repo yesterday, it appears that it's either "i386" or "x86_64"16:08
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zykes-is there any presentations & material that can be used for holding talks ?16:14
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jtannershaon, i doubt that has anything to do with the argument passed for the image type16:52
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amccabeOutBackDingo: so you're really throwing in the towel?17:08
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828184 in swift "Swift init scripts need migration to upstart" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82818417:16
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amccabei'm trying to figure out why i can't launch.. in xenapi/vm_utils.py, in _stream_disk it looks like nova's trying to write my glance image to /dev/xvdc.  doesn't exist, and it fails with "IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/dev/xvdc'"  ... this is an ubuntu 10.04 guest on xenserver 5.6.17:19
amccabehas anyone else run into this?17:19
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susan_barrhi everybody, have a quick question to ask17:28
susan_barrthat's assuming there's somebody here to answer.  :)17:30
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828202 in nova "Hosts API extension doesn't serialize to XML" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82820217:31
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OutBackDingoamccabe: kinda depends17:47
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deshantmOutBackDingo: I'm not ready to give up. I'm only just beginning17:49
uvirtbotNew bug: #828207 in nova "host API extension broken after recent changes" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82820717:50
OutBackDingodeshantm: LOL yeah well beginning is costing me 1K a month and doing nothing in return17:51
amccabeOutBackDingo: i can't give up, but i'm underwhelmed with the xenserver documentation17:51
OutBackDingoamccabe: i concur.... but there has to be someone out there with this working17:51
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OutBackDingodeshantm: trust me, i seriously want to deploy this..... but not sure it reeally is deployable17:52
amccabeOutBackDingo: what are you stuck on at this point?17:52
deshantmOutBackDingo: there are working instances... I need to see your logs17:52
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deshantmI only saw the initial email hit the list17:53
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deshantmI can get more eyes on this if I have more info17:53
deshantmat the same time I work on getting the setup going myself17:53
OutBackDingodeshantm: email addy ? ill email you the tgz17:53
deshantmOutBackDingo: also did you try using the euca tools install of nova tools to start the VM?17:54
deshantmtodd.deshane@xen.org17:54
OutBackDingodeshantm: and ur right i dont see alot of different between XCP and XenServer, which is whats up and running now17:56
OutBackDingothough with XenServer we can trial run the self services management portal also17:56
deshantmno worries. We'll fix the XCP bugs as long as we know about them17:57
* OutBackDingo wonders who he needs to abduct and hold hostage, or pay to get this done.....17:57
OutBackDingolol17:57
deshantmI think that version one is well known though17:57
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nilssonkpepple, I've been talking in #joyent, and apparantly smartos doesn't have libvirt18:42
nilssonI'm trying to understand more18:42
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OutBackDingook guys the doc  http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment states ./bin/nova-manage network create private 10.0.0.0/8 1 64 , so my network is a public one, 206.208.56.130/26, so i did ./bin/nova-manage network create private 206.208.56.130/26 1 50 for the public network and 50 ips correct ?18:46
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828267 in nova "leases in dnsmasq aren't immediately released on disassociate." [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82826718:52
jtannerhow do i view user privileges to projects?18:52
jtannercan't figure out why my admin user has no access to any projects18:53
jtanner^ nova related18:53
uvirtbotjtanner: Error: "nova" is not a valid command.18:53
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amccabeOutBackDingo: i think that's correct - at least i did something similar18:54
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OutBackDingoamccabe: hahhaa yeah im wondering if that our problem :)18:55
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amccabeOutBackDingo: i'm not even getting that far.  nova-compute is trying to write my image to a device that doesn't exist :\18:55
uvirtbotNew bug: #828277 in nova "Xenhost plugin does not include enabled status with its host_data" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82827718:56
OutBackDingodo a ps ax do you see a parted /dev/sdb ?18:56
amccabei would view an error assigning an ip as a leap forward...18:57
amccabeno - shut down nova-compute, i was going to restart it and get an strace18:57
clifter1Is anyone familiar with using the boto EC2 python library to connect to nova-api?   I've been able to use the python novaclient with great results.   I can't even get the boto EC2 library to connect.   Most internet examples are for connecting to amazon and not another source18:57
amccabeclifter1: euca2ools use boto under the hood?  maybe you can check those out for examples?19:01
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clifter1ahh ok.  I'll check that out.  Thanks!19:03
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amccabeclifter1: np, check out /usr/share/pyshared/euca2ools/__init__.py on your compute node, i think that might have what you need19:07
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smoseri have a instance that has been marked 'shutdown'19:54
smoseris there a way to start it back up?19:54
stevee_anyone struggling with changing the interface for br100  bridge? I need it to point to eth0 and not eth1 ... I've tried changing the setting for flat interface in /etc/nova/nova/conf19:54
smoserwhen you add the network you can state it19:55
smosersudo nova-manage network create --bridge br100 --bridge_interface eth0 private 11.0.0.0/8 1 6419:55
smoserthat seems personally broken to me, and i must be missing something19:55
stevee_ok, I'll try that19:55
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smoserbecause how could you possibly know the bridge devices and especially the bridge interfaces for all compute nodes19:56
smosercentrally19:56
smoser(and have them all be the same)19:56
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smoserbut other than that, it "worked for me"19:56
stevee_the other thing is that I've seen some tickets posted and there's a column in the DB ... networks table for that but mine is missing that column19:56
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stevee_Should I pull down patches for various bits of Nova?  I'm currently running Cactus20:13
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kbringardhey guys, has anyone seen this?20:19
kbringardrunning the latest trunk from packages (2011.3~d4~20110817.1450-0ubuntu0ppa1~natty1)20:20
kbringardwhen I try to launch an instance I get http://paste.openstack.org/show/2190/20:20
amccabekbringard: anything in the glance log?20:22
kbringardyea, I was just checking now20:22
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kbringarddon't see anything...20:23
kbringardthis was working until I upgradedā€¦ I went from 1442 to 145020:24
amccabesorry, i haven't seen that before20:25
kbringardyea, me either20:25
kbringardmy guess is it's a bug20:25
kbringardbut I wanted to ask if anyone had seen it and/or had a workaround before I delved into it too much20:26
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kbringardAH HA20:26
kbringardit is a glance problem20:26
kbringardhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2191/20:27
kbringardthat's why I run glance index20:27
kbringardbut if I try to db_sync to make sure we're all up to date: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2192/20:28
kbringardso I seem to have a migration issue20:28
notmynamereed: are you the new technical community manager? or is that role gone and subsumed into an "everything" community manager?20:32
reednotmyname: I'm the new community manager20:33
notmynamereed: will there be a technical community manager? (I only ask because it was mentioned at the last design summit. I'm not sure what that role would do differently)20:33
notmynamereed: and welcome :-)20:34
notmynamereed: what timezone are you in?20:34
reednotmyname: I'm in San Francico, Pacific20:34
notmynamereed: working for rackspace?20:34
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reednotmyname: indeed, rackspace pays my bills, but I hope you'll consider me a resource for the community20:35
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reednotmyname: is there something in particular that you would like the tech community manager to do?20:36
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notmynamereed: no. like I said, I'm not sure how it would be different from a general community manager role20:37
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notmynamereed: so I assume you'll be taking over the summit? (with help from spectorclan of course)20:37
reednotmyname: I'll try to cover all the bases, as needed :)20:37
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amccabekbringard: nice catch20:40
kbringardamccabe: thanks, yea, jaypipes said the fix is to add20:40
kbringardcontext_class = glance.registry.context.RequestContext20:40
kbringardto your filter:context20:40
kbringardin your glance-registry.conf20:41
kbringardmy guess is if I wasn't using a modified conf file it would have updated properly when I upgraded glance20:41
jaypipesnotmyname: no, reed will not be taking over the summit...20:42
amccabeah20:42
notmynamereed: please feel free to ask me anything you need that is swift-related. whatever you need to get up to speed20:42
reedthanks notmyname, will do20:43
jaypipesreed: notmyname and creiht are Swift partners in crime :)20:43
jaypipesreed: although creiht has his fingers in lots of other pots now, too :)20:43
notmynamereed: are you running the election or is spectorclan still handling that?20:46
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reednotmyname: election?20:48
notmynamereed: PTL and PPB20:48
notmynamereed: I guess that's a no? ;-)20:48
reed;)20:48
reedtoo many TLAs :)20:48
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jaypipesnotmyname: I'm thinking the carlsonwagonlit.com travel site we now have to use could compete for worst UI with Gerrit...20:51
notmynamejaypipes: apparently you haven't used rackergps20:52
jaypipesnotmyname: ah, but I have! :)20:53
* jaypipes became a RAX employee yesterday!20:53
jaypipesand oh the joys :)20:53
notmynamemuch worse than the travel site, IMO20:53
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notmynamejaypipes: so does that mean you will be doing rookie o soon? :-)20:54
jaypipesnotmyname: yeah, it's a close call indeed :)20:54
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jaypipesnotmyname: yep. me, reed and jeblair will be in SAT for Rookie-O on the 30th.20:54
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reedwhat's a rackergps? tracking device for employees?20:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #828344 in nova "euca-describe-images returns an UnknownError when an image fails to decrypt" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82834420:56
jaypipesreed: oh, you'll see :)20:56
notmynamereed: rackspace "global people system"20:56
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notmynamereed: just make sure you have flash enabled when you try to use it (*ugh*)20:57
jaypipesnotmyname: I have some other replacements for the letters GPS...20:57
reednotmyname: flash ... good thing Apple is killing it... too slowly20:57
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828357 in nova "ephemeral device filesystems should be labeled with 'ephemeralX'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82835721:12
dabojaypipes: congrats!21:12
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deshantmwhat should I set EC2_URL to?21:13
jaypipesdabo: hehe, thx :)21:15
dabojaypipes: we'll have to go out for dinner and a drink or 17 while you're in town21:15
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jaypipesdabo: heh, sounds good21:16
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zykes-any xenserver guys here ? tried installing it on a laptop for testing purposes, but it doesn't seem to be wanting to boot21:26
shaonI have an instance running. but after logging into it, i found it cannot connect to the internet. has anyone faced this problem before? and what is the possible solution?21:26
zykes-like it doesn't seem to have a mbr21:26
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OutBackDingodeshantm: ok going to reload XenServer on these boxes and start fresh22:46
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steve-equick question; I've updated to diablo release and receiving errors from euca-describe-images ... logs show errors about images table ... I don't have an images table22:49
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steve-e(nova.api): TRACE: OperationalError: (OperationalError) no such column: images.owner u'SELECT anon_1.images_created_at AS anon_1_images_created_at, anon_1.images_updated_at AS anon_1_images_updated_at, anon_1.images_deleted_at AS anon_1_images_deleted_at, anon_1.images_deleted AS anon_1_images_deleted, anon_1.images_id AS anon_1_images_id, anon_1.images_name AS anon_1_images_name, anon_1.images_disk_format AS anon_1_images_disk_for22:50
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828399 in nova "Can not delete a network which is associated with a project" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82839922:56
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deshantmOutBackDingo: before you run: "euca-add-keypair nova_key", what is your EC2_URL set to?23:20
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828414 in nova "eventlet and multiprocessing causes failure in oswaitpid" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82841423:31
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deshantmhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2197/23:33
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uvirtbotNew bug: #828416 in nova "Nova does not respect ram quotas" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/82841623:41
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