Wednesday, 2011-08-24

kpepple_JoseBravo: ahh ... if you are using the UEC images, they are looking for the 169.x metadata network and not finding it.00:01
kpepple_JoseBravo: what network manager are you using ? How did you configure  the networks ?00:02
JoseBravokpepple_, usting StackOps00:02
kpepple_JoseBravo: single node ?00:02
JoseBravoYes, for testing00:02
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kpepple_JoseBravo: hmmm ... that's odd. you probably got the floating_range wrong. you picked the FlatDHCPManager right ?00:03
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JoseBravokpepple_, Yes I picked the FlatDHCPManager, the controller has the IP 44.44.44.2 and in the floating_range it put 44.44.44.0/2800:12
JoseBravokpepple_, when I put: euca-allocate-address it allocate the 44.44.44.0,1,2,3 I associate the 44.44.44.3 and released the 44.44.44.0,1,200:15
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kpepple_JoseBravo: what did you pick for the private network (fixed) ?00:18
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JoseBravokpepple_, 10.0.0.0/800:19
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JoseBravokpepple_, I also try to ping 10.0.0.2 from the controller and it not response00:22
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kpepple_JoseBravo: hmmm ... do you have another dhcp server on the network ?00:25
JoseBravoYes00:25
kpepple_do the networks they are serving overlap ? that is bad00:26
JoseBravoI just disabled the dhcp00:27
JoseBravoRebooting the instance is enough?00:27
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kpepple_JoseBravo: i'd terminate the instance and boot another one. once you do, tail the /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log file to make sure it works.00:28
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JoseBravokpepple_, I rebooted the server and now is working. I think it was a problem because I did the configuration many times.00:56
kpepple_JoseBravo: cool00:56
JoseBravokpepple_, how can I run an instance that appears as "shutdown" in the euca-description-instances?00:56
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kpepple_JoseBravo: the instance is gone ... it just stays in euca-description-instances for a while. you can launch another just like it by using the same image id.00:57
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JoseBravokpepple_, the info I stored there is gone too?01:03
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kpepple_JoseBravo: yes, probably. Instances are ephemeral -- anything stored in that image is gone once it is terminated (like Amazon EC2). If you want to store data permanently, you need to use volumes (like euca-create-volume and then euca-attach-volume) and store your data on that volume.01:05
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kpepple_JoseBravo: depending on what virtualization technology you used, the image (KVM uses *.qcow2) it may still be somewhere on your server ...01:05
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JoseBravokpepple_, If I attach a volume to the instance it will be like an additional disk, so I have to mout it somewhere for example /disk2, right? but what if I want to modify some file permanently outside but outside /disk2, like /etc/rc.local ??01:08
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kpepple_JoseBravo: yes. if you want to save changes to the image itself (i.e. not the volume that you attached), you need to do something like a $ nova image-create <server> <name> ... but I've never done that before01:12
JoseBravokpepple_, thanks a lot01:13
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kpepple_JoseBravo: no worries. good luck -- have to run.01:13
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deepesthi you guys02:49
deepestI want to ask U something about swift02:50
deepestI use swift to back up my data02:50
deepesthow can I restore that data?02:50
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thickskindeepest:copy that....that`all02:56
deepestyep02:57
deepestI use Swift and Glance02:58
deepestwhen I back up data, I use this command "glance add name="TestSwift-1" distro="Test1" is_public=True  < /root/ttylinux-uec-i686-12.1_2.6.35-22_1.tar.gz"02:58
deepesthow can I restore that data from Swift02:58
deepestwhat command should I use?02:59
thickskinoh..man..02:59
thickskinwhere are you from?02:59
deepestI'm from Vietnam02:59
thickskinwait for a minute.03:00
deepestok03:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #832476 in nova "default to noauth for the EC2 admin API" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83247603:11
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mandela123i  wonder where should i config ec2_host= in the nova.conf ,which service of nova need to connect with the nova-api03:39
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mandela123nova-api  just through the rabbitmq-server to get or put request03:40
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jjohndrowHey all, looking on a couple pointers on Nova with HyperV. I have it all setup and it shows as healthy in the service list. I have a vhd called image in the path specified in my HyperV nova.conf file. Now how do I see and deploy the image from the controller. It seems a tad different04:07
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uvirtbotNew bug: #832507 in nova "console.log grows indefinitely" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83250704:36
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JoseBravokpepple_, are you there?04:58
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zykes-does openstack nova on ubuntu run in a vm or ?06:36
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ttxzykes-: could you elaborate ?06:51
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zykes-ttx: the compute part does it run in a seperate vm like on xenserver07:12
ttxzykes-: hmm, no... it runs on bare metal... Though a xenserver computenode might do it like you say.07:14
zykes-okaY : )07:15
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deepestHi you guys07:32
deepestI want to ask a little bit about Swift07:33
deepestwhen I back up data, I use  the command "glance add name="TestSwift-1" distro="Test1" is_public=True  < /root/ttylinux-uec-i686-12.1_2.6.35-22_1.tar.gz"07:33
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deepestHow can I restore that data?07:34
deepestwhat command should I use?07:34
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zykes-what should one use for an underlying filesystem for nova ?07:43
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catbotI just wonder what is the  motive to start the Keystone project. Did Nova lack of a auth service itself?07:51
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zykes-catbot: so that you don't have to have seperate ways for authing i guess in each service07:52
zykes-like, melange, quantum, nova, swift, glance ....07:52
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catbotsounds great, But as I know, Keystone is a new project and unavailable in Cactus release, then how Cactus make the auth?07:55
zykes-catbot: i think keystone is targeted for Diablo07:56
zykes-though i'm not totally sure of that07:56
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catbotZykes, thanks for your time07:58
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catbotI think I need more time to know how Cactus's authentication work, because I'm running Cactus in my lab08:00
zykes-catbot: try diablo with keystone08:00
catbotDiablo is still in development, I guess it is not enough stable08:04
zykes-well still if you're in a lab?08:04
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catbotIn fact, I'm trying to deploy openstack for production08:09
zykes-ah08:10
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eviscaresGood Morning08:16
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RaziqueHi all !08:22
RaziqueI've a question , what, in the openstack dashboard, the "tenant" implementation reffers to ?08:22
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uvirtbotNew bug: #832596 in openstack-ci "nova-milestone-tarball job can't execute on nova-1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83259608:41
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zykes-ttx: what guide would you recommend to get started ?08:42
uvirtbotNew bug: #832598 in nova "Associate floating IP doesnt care if IP is already assigned to another instance" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83259808:47
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wonderzouhi all08:50
wonderzoui can not ssh to the instance08:50
wonderzouneed your support08:50
wonderzouthanks08:50
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eviscareswonderzou: what are you running on the instance?08:57
wonderzouubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz08:58
wonderzoueviscares: i tried both tty.tar.gz  and ubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz08:58
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wonderzoueviscares: they both prompt me one password08:59
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shanghi all, for the networking in diablo, we need to specify the bridge and the bridge interface, i define both as br100, but I was getting the error message: (nova): TRACE: RemoteError: Error Failed to add interface: device br100 is a bridge device itself; can't enslave a bridge device to a bridge device.09:50
shangshould I change the bridge to eth1 instead?09:51
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rntsshang: sorry for late answer but yes, bridge is br100 interface is whatever interface you have in the machine (eth0/1/x)11:08
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koolhead11hi all11:10
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siwoshi11:18
siwosone question - has anyone here ran multiple instances of nova-volume service in one cluster?11:18
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ttxzykes-: sorry, I'm not very up to date with docs.11:58
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eviscaresHey all, is there a way to handle new users besides restarting the proxy?12:36
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reidracyou shouldn't need to restart the proxy :)12:51
reidracwe don't, and it works12:51
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koolhead11annegentle, hellos13:05
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eviscaresreidrac: hm… can it be that it takes sometime for changes in the proxy-server.conf to register?13:46
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eviscaresoh and how would I grant multiple users, but not all of the account write access to a folder13:46
eviscares?13:46
reidracit should be instantaneous13:47
reidracdo you mean container? :)13:48
reidracyou need to set the ACL to list all ro users and all rw users13:48
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reidracunfortunately there's no way to update the ACL (meaining add/remove users)13:49
eviscaresso I would have to create one long "swift […] post -r account -w account:user1 account:user2 account:user 3 [container]" post?13:51
reidracyep13:51
reidracthe command line interface it's not very comfortable for that kind of thing :(13:52
reidracI don't know if you need to separate the ACLs with commas13:53
reidracprobably -w "account:user1,account:user2,account:user3" will work13:53
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reidracI don't use the CLI but the python client13:54
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annegentlekoolhead11: hello14:10
annegentlekoolhead11: the beginner's guide/starter guide is building but not FTPing correctly, looking into it now.14:11
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koolhead11annegentle, you rock :)14:11
annegentlewell I wish I could rock more quickly :)14:11
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annegentleok, build scheduled... crossing fingers. Holding breath.14:12
koolhead11:D14:13
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ivoksi've installed d3 from milestone ppa; i've followed cactus/trunk docs for setting up the single node cloud14:21
ivokseverything was ok until i did nova-manage db sync14:21
ivoksafter that, restarting nova-* services breaks everything; log files don't get appendedtcp ports don't get open14:22
ivoksand services are consuming lots of cpu14:22
ivoksanyone seen something like that?14:24
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833106 in nova "Logging tries to change mode of log file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83310616:01
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zykes-will there be ALM for openstack ?16:48
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833205 in nova "instance reboot types are not supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83320517:23
kpepple_zykes-: ALM ?17:25
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amccabei'm running 2011.3 of diablo and glance, and i'm getting a KeyError: 'imageRef' in the nova-api.log when trying to create a new server from python-novaclient17:34
amccabei found https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/777460, but it looks like it should have been fixed in d1.17:35
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chrismhowdy17:49
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chrismI've opened up a launchpad question about that issue i was having yesterda...  https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/16908217:53
chrismtbh this is driving me crazy17:53
chrismlol17:53
chrisma couple of questions I Have, should 1.  the fixed IPs bind to eth0 like the floating IPs do?  2.  Should there be any per-instance fixed_ip iptables rules be added to the nat iptables chain?17:54
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zykes-application lifecycle management17:56
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DunkirkI installed and setup OpenStack on a fresh install of Ubuntu today. I followed the Getting Start instructions, and booted an instance. I could see the login prompt through VNC.18:16
DunkirkHowever, I couldn't connect to it via SSH, so I shut it down, deleted the network, and tried to create a new one.18:17
zykes-Dunkirk: what guide did you use ?18:17
zykes-looking for it myself18:17
DunkirkDespite my command, the new network was created with the same definition as the old one.18:17
Dunkirkzykes-:  http://wiki.openstack.org/RunningNova18:17
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DunkirkSo I thought, screw it, I'll just try some iptables commands, and see if that fixes it. But NO WAY. The instance no longer works. It LOOKS like its working. euca-describe-instances says it's running, but all I see in VNC is a blinking cursor.18:18
DunkirkHow can this software be so brittle that trying to change the network blows up the image?18:19
DunkirkI'm certainly not getting anything useful in the debug logs.18:21
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chrismheh, welcome to openstack. =)18:22
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amccabeis anyone using python-novaclient against a v1.1 nova api?18:34
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pzbare there docs for nova-volume?18:45
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chrismpzb: as far as I know, just what's in the main documentation18:55
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zykes-is it a smart idea to run swift under a compute node ?18:57
chadhAnyone know where to get info about using openstack with XCP?18:59
kpepple_chadh: there's not much out there ... however it's based on XenServer so the wiki page should get you going ...19:00
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chadhkpepple_: is that on openstack.org or xen.org?19:01
kpepple_chadh: http://wiki.openstack.org/XenServerDevelopment19:02
chrismthe documentation for that whole thing kinda sucks if i recall19:02
chadhkpepple_: thanks.19:02
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chadhman, I'm so confused19:05
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amccabechadh: what's up?  i tried the xenserver installation and gave up for one that was kvm backed, but i might be able to help19:05
kpepple_chadh: we have xcp booting images but still working some networking issues19:06
chadhamccabe: well, I guess I am having a hard time figuring out what goes where.  I see that the nova-compute needs to go in a domU19:06
chadhSo what exactly needs to be installed in the XCP dom0?19:07
amccabechadh: yes, but it has to be paravirt w/ xe-guest-utilities19:07
kpepple_chadh: you can get it running with everything (nova-*) in a domU (just like an all in one server) and copying the plugins into Dom0 (see wiki instructions)19:07
chadhoh, I missed the scp in the top of those instructions19:08
kpepple_amccabe: which xe-guest-utilities ?19:08
chadhcan I use a rhel6 guest on XCP, then?19:08
amccabechadh: what kpepple said, agent  glance  migration  objectstore  pluginlib_nova.py  xenhost  xenstore.py are the files that need to go in /etc/xapi.d/plugins19:09
kpepple_chadh: as an instance ? yes. As a domU for nova-* ? dunno19:09
chadhkpepple_: yeah, the latter.  looks like those instructions are using ubuntu 10.0419:10
kpepple_chadh: we run ubu 10.04 as our DomU Nova VM. if you grabbed the grid dynamic's RHEL packages, you might be able to make it work.19:10
amccabechadh: rhel6 for the kernel i think gets complicated ... i don't know xcp; but in xenserver 5.6 it might work if you used a rhel6 template to create the vm19:10
amccabei was using 10.04, too19:11
amccabekpepple_: about xe-guest-utilities... good question, i just mounted the xs-tools.iso and installed whatever was there19:12
chadhok.  I think I am going to try to set up a kvm farm first.  There are too many pieces that I don't understannd19:12
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kpepple_amccabe: ok. did you also use the openstack guest ?19:12
chadhI was originally trying to get xen working with rhel6, but I switched to xcp hoping the installation would be more straight-forward19:12
kpepple_chadh: if you are using RHEL6, i'd just go grab the grid dynamics packages and install with KVM ...19:13
amccabekpepple_: sorry, i don't follow19:13
amccabe(so probably not?)19:14
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chadhkpepple_: yep, I already have the rhel6 kickstart and grid dynamics repos puppetized19:14
kpepple_amccabe: https://launchpad.net/openstack-guest-agents19:14
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833285 in glance "swift store delete only removes manifest" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83328519:16
zykes-amccabe: can you share the puppe tstuff?19:16
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amccabechadh: ^, zykes- that wasn't me19:17
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chadhzykes-: right now I just have the repos puppetized.  not very interesting19:17
amccabekpepple_: oh, i was talking about the domU with all the nova-* services19:17
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gnu111does --auto_assign_floating_ip=true work with cactus??19:50
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kpepple_gnu111: i think that is a diablo feature ...19:54
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gnu111kpepple_: thanks. ok. last time I was testing diablo with RHEL 6.1, it didn't play well. I don't if it is still the case.19:56
kpepple_gnu111: dunno on RHEL6.1 ... i usually use the grid dynamics packages (not sure if they have been updated yet)19:57
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uvirtbotNew bug: #833331 in nova "OSAPI v1.1 needs to document config-drive as an extension" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83333120:11
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rakerdocs for openstack or really tough to follow so far... i've gotten close to a running environment a couple times... but not yet...20:56
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chrismyeah the documentation is pretty horrible21:04
chrismi've been fighting this on and off for about a month now21:04
chrism=\21:04
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annegentleraker, chrism you're welcome to contribute docs, see the openstack-manuals project on Launchpad21:05
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chrismI'd need to get a fully working and understood instance going before I could do that =)21:05
rakerthis comes pretty close... http://cssoss.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/openstack-beginners-guide-for-ubuntu-11-04-installation-and-configuration/21:06
rakerbut the commands have changed already in the latest releases enough to where certain things dont work21:06
annegentlebringing in the new Starter Guide now, from CSS OSS: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/starter/content/21:06
chrismyeah i ran into that quite a bit21:06
annegentleyeah, that's the one21:06
annegentlereally, any observations you have are welcome, though21:07
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chrismthe cssoss link is considerably better than what I used initially21:08
rakeryep... that is the best I have seen too...   watch out for the nova-manage steps for adding ip ranges...21:08
zykes-chrism: what did you use initially ?21:09
rakerif you could fix that part and make it actually work for latest releases... that would be awesome21:09
chrisma mix of blogs and official documentation21:09
chrismi could never really find one solid writeup that'd get me there from beginning to end21:09
rakeryep21:09
rakertotally agree21:09
chrismi had it all working and going strong for liek 2 weeks21:10
rakerneed a choose your own adventure style cloud building doc...21:10
chrismwe had a server move and now fixed_ip routing is very much off21:10
chrismhah21:10
chrismTURN TO PAGE 34 FOR VLAN CONFIGURATION21:10
chrismlol21:10
chrismI think i *may* have been operating under a weird quirk that shouldn't have been happening21:11
chrismbut i'm not entirely sure tbh21:11
chrismand that reboot put things "the way they should be"21:11
chrism=\21:11
chrismbut it's really hard to tell tbh21:11
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leobhi folks my "System is configured for NO sshd" problem was gone for a few days but now it's back21:13
annegentleraker: that team is doing updates to that starter guide. My best guess is that the packages for Maverick changed recently (yesterday).21:16
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rakeri am doing testing with oneiric right now so I should be able to give good guidance21:21
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WormManI'm writing a guide to openstack for a presentation at work, it's very exciting21:23
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reedare openstack mailing list archived on gmane?22:27
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JoeJulianWe were wondering over in #gluster, is there any other software that uses OpenStack Object Storage?22:37
creihtJoeJulian: define "uses"?22:39
creihtlike api clients?22:39
creihtreed: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/22:39
creihtnot sure if launchpad also archives on gmame22:40
JoeJulianJust curios about other applications for this storage technique.22:40
creihtThere are a lot of backup clients, various tools, nasuni can talk to swift cluster, etc.22:41
creihtAnd there are abstraction layers like cloudfuse, ftp, etc.22:42
creihtto be able to access it through other protocols22:42
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JoeJulianGlusterFS has, as I'm sure you're aware, added a swift interface which is what got us started.22:46
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creihtJoeJulian: yeah I'm aware :)22:48
creihtI've heard that ceph is working on one as well22:50
creihtJoeJulian: If you are interesting in the ideas of object storage in general, there is of course Amazon S3, and Hitachi has a some very good papers about object storage22:52
JoeJulianI've looked at some of the Amazon stuff, but hadn't known about Hitachi.22:53
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creihthttp://www.hds.com/assets/pdf/distributed-object-store-principles-of-operation.pdf22:53
creihtfor example22:53
creihtJoeJulian: and of course there is also Rackspace Cloud Files, which uses Swift ;)22:56
chadhWhen I start a couple of the services, I get an error about timeout being an unexpected keyword22:56
chadhI see that keyword was new to python 2.6, but rhel6 has python 2.6.622:57
creihtchadh: which services, and can you paste the error/traceback to paste.openstack.org?22:57
chadhcreiht: is there a way I can make the error more verbose.  It's the network service, and there isn't much22:58
chadhhttp://paste.openstack.org/show/2271/22:58
chadh(from /var/log/nova/nova-network.log)22:58
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creihtchadh: there probably is, but I haven't done enough with Nova to know, sorry... hopeflly someone else will be able to help you with that soon22:59
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g2_sfI have couple of quick questions, are there any nova api python bindings?23:14
vishychadh: what os is that, i seem to remember a bug in RedHat along those lines23:14
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vishychadh: --verbose will generally give you more output23:15
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kpepple_g2_sf: yes ... https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient23:16
uvirtbotNew bug: #833426 in nova "Nonhomogeneous networks not supported" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/83342623:16
chadhvishy: thanks.  I think the timeout message was a red herring.  I am following the install guide, but it doesn't seem to work without a little tweaking.23:16
chadhonce I switched to flat networking (from vlan), the network service started23:17
vishychadh: ok23:17
chadhvishy: and I think the nova-volume service is not supposed to work.  That is just for iscsi targets, right?  and I guess they don't work with rhel623:17
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g2_sfkpepple: Thanks. What is the state of Nova APIs. Do they have all the same functionality as EC2 APIs in Diablo?23:17
kpepple_g2_sf: it's made great strides in the diablo code ... if you include the extensions, i'd say it's pretty close on base EC2 API functionality. obviously it doesn't have spot instances and such.23:19
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g2_sfkpepple: Are the extensions available in nova-client also. I am most interested in few specific EC2 command (e.g. euca-bundle-vol) to create an image from a volume.23:22
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WormManeuca-bundle-vol didn't seem to really need much in the way of API, it was mostly on-host stuff(make disk image, rsync it in, do some cleanup)23:23
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kpepple_g2_sf: hmmm ... you can do an $nova image-create which creates an image from a running ephemeral image but i don't think it does it from a volume23:24
WormManer, sorry, bundle-vol23:25
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WormMannever mind, what was I thinking of23:25
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WormManbundle-instance, that was it23:25
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WormManmaking presentation slides rots one's brain23:25
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g2_sfg2_sf: Does "nova image-create" work only on a Amazon/Openstack instance, or can I create an image from a virtual/physical machine?23:27
g2_sfSorry, the question was meant for kpepple23:27
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kpepple_g2_sf: once you have an instance running in nova, "$ nova image-create" saves the running image to your image store (most likely glance). i believe it's also referred to as "snapshot" within the codebase.23:29
g2_sfWormMan: You are right about the euca-bundle-vol, but what about the equivalent of "euca_upload_bundle" in the nova-client?23:29
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WormMang2_sf: I've done it by tearing the bundle apart and using glance on the components, but I have no idea about an automated method23:30
g2_sfkpepple: I thought so too. thanks.23:31
g2_sfWormMan: I don't know much about glance yet, I need to look into it.23:32
g2_sfThanks for your help!23:32
g2_sfAhh, one more question. Do you know of a way to allocate an private IP address to a Nova instance23:33
kpepple_g2_sf: nova instances always get a private address (we call them fixed_ips) ... do you want more than one ?23:38
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g2_sfkpepple: No, I want to be able to assign the private address when I launch the instance23:44
kpepple_g2_sf: assign a specific ip address ? right now it pulls one from the pool of private (fixed) addresses and assigns it at launch.23:45
g2_sfYes, I understand. But is there any way to specify the address, rather than pulling from the pool automatically?23:46
kpepple_g2_sf: i don't think so23:47
g2_sfkpepple: Okay, thanks!23:49
vishyg2_sf: an extension just merged for that23:52
kpepple_vishy: is that multi-nic support ?23:53
vishynope23:54
g2_sfvishy: how do I use it?23:55
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vishywell you will manually have to curl probably23:55
vishysince none of the clients support it :)23:55
vishyfinding true merge to direct you23:56
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vishyhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~hudson-openstack/nova/trunk/revision/147623:57
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g2_sfvishy: Thanks. So, this extension is added to the Nova API... right23:58
vishyyes23:58

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