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| hugokuo | Is there any docs talk about the working flow of Swift store data ? | 03:37 |
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| HugoKuo | test | 08:06 |
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| HugoKuo | when will Diablo release ? | 08:47 |
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| toluene | HugoKuo, Diablo will be released in 9/22 | 09:40 |
| HugoKuo | toluene , thanks duede | 09:41 |
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| johnson81385 | nova-manage network create command is failing in Diablo. Nova manage log says connection timeout. any clues? | 10:17 |
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| sante_ | johnson81385: network creation command changed in diablo, which syntax r u using? | 10:21 |
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| johnson81385 | sante: nova-manage network create --bridge_interface=br100 --fixed_range_v4=192.168.3.0/29 --label=proj | 10:26 |
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| johnson81385 | sante: The command is failing only if mysql is used. Works fine with sqlite. With mysql all nova-manage commands are failing. In tcp dump I see a mysql connection reset. | 10:42 |
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| johnson81385 | sante: Even with mysql nova-manage db sync works, but all other commands fail. | 10:43 |
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| sante_ | johnson81385: did u already enabled mysql logging to check if there is some db's grant permission problem? | 10:46 |
| sante_ | johnson81385: your command seems fine to me. I use succesfully something like "nova-manage network create --label=gcivitella_proj_net --fixed_range_v4=10.12.2.0/24 --num_networks=1 --network_size=256 --vlan=12" | 10:48 |
| johnson81385 | I was not able to see details regarding the connection in mysql logs, but i saw a reset in connection. And the user has been granted all privileges. | 10:49 |
| johnson81385 | sante: I was not able to see details regarding the connection in mysql logs, but i saw a reset in connection. And the user has been granted all privileges. | 10:51 |
| johnson81385 | sante: nova-manage logs showed connection timed out | 10:51 |
| sante_ | johnson81385: so you can connect to mysql using client doing mysql -u your_db_user -h your_db_host -p your_db_name from the host where you are running the nova-manage command, don't you? | 10:55 |
| johnson81385 | sante: yes i am able to connect using client | 11:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #845507 in nova "No error is returned if public interface doesn't exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845507 | 11:18 |
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| DuncanT | Hi. Are there any old inclusion proposals about that I could use as a rough template for an Essex proposal? | 11:30 |
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| annegentle | DuncanT: if you create a new page in the wiki and then choose ProposalTemplate you can get a template. | 13:59 |
| alperkanat | hey there.. can anyone tell me how i can change caching for swift? the proxy returns Cache-Control: max-age=0 in the headers? | 13:59 |
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| Razique | any good OS api doc ? | 14:01 |
| Razique | I don't get it how it works, and how it could be used really | 14:01 |
| annegentle | Razique: I have a new "API Quick Start" that I just wrote, can I send it to you for review? | 14:02 |
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| Razique | annegentle: sure :) | 14:02 |
| Razique | I'll review it and validate it, since we are working on the API right now | 14:02 |
| annegentle | Razique: thanks | 14:03 |
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| annegentle | Razique: just haven't found the right placement for it yet and the API doc move is a higher priority | 14:03 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: the only way that the cache-control header is stored/returned is if you set swift to store it and then set it on the object | 14:04 |
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| Razique | annegentle: yup, it looks like that part of openstack if very vague | 14:04 |
| Razique | but I could be wrong too :) | 14:04 |
| annegentle | Razique: to me, the confusion lies in the Compute API being a spec document, not a how-to. | 14:05 |
| doude | Hi all. Anyone have nova working with libvirt/lxc? I get errors like "lxcFdForward:287 : read of fd 9 failed: Input/output error" | 14:05 |
| annegentle | Razique: So this Quick Start attempts to fill that gap | 14:05 |
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| Razique | annegentle: exactly! We are fighting and doin a lot of reverse engineering on the os-dashboard that uses it | 14:05 |
| Razique | but It's a real pain ^^ | 14:05 |
| alperkanat | notmyname: you mean via the api? | 14:07 |
| notmyname | alperkanat: cache-control is not something that swift manages by default (it can be added, though, in the object server config). so if you are getting cache-control returned, either you set the value on the object (via the api) or something else between your client and swift is setting it | 14:08 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: what i'm trying to achieve is that i put nginx on top of the proxy.. nginx proxies the traffic (while managing the urls) and when i looked at the headers (to see if the objects in my public container is coming from the cache or not) i saw that max-age = 0 | 14:12 |
| alperkanat | and i want to change it | 14:12 |
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| notmyname | alperkanat: nginx is setting that. you need to change it with nginx configs. (as a side-note, nginx is a bad thing to put in front of swift because is buffers the request body. object puts can easily exhaust the buffer resources of nginx--think 5GB uploads) | 14:14 |
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| alperkanat | notmyname: we're working on small files and nginx doesn't buffer unless you specify it in its configs | 14:15 |
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| Ahmed_ | Hi, I was just trying to install openstack and I got this message. "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) " | 14:17 |
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| gnu111 | Ahmed_: can you try /etc/init.d/mysqld status and /etc/init.d/mysqld start | 14:43 |
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| doude | Hi all. Anyone have nova working with libvirt/lxc? I get errors like "lxcFdForward:287 : read of fd 9 failed: Input/output error" | 14:59 |
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| openstacknewb | Anybody have time to try and help me understand some things about OpenStack? | 15:00 |
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| Ahmed_ | gnu111_: I have just been able to correct the problem. uninstalling and reinstalling mysql did the trick, thanks ! | 15:02 |
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| annegentle | openstacknewb: sure, ask your questions | 15:05 |
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| openstacknewb | So I had a conversation with a marketing guy at work and he says "we need OpenStack support on our NAS appliance". | 15:06 |
| openstacknewb | I say "ok, sounds good", now I'm stuck :) | 15:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #845698 in openstack-ci "Jenkins job swift-docs-archive doesn't build correctly for a specific release number based on bzr branch variable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845698 | 15:06 |
| openstacknewb | Trying to figure out what that really means, and where to start trying to disect the OpenStack architecture to understand this | 15:06 |
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| openstacknewb | Marketing doesn't know what it means either :) | 15:07 |
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| annegentle | hm. ok. trying to figure out where NAS would plug in - as storage available to virtual machines? | 15:10 |
| openstacknewb | That's my thought... I'm struggling between whether it's something to use on the SWIFT side or try to make something that works to house the actual VM's on the Nova side. | 15:10 |
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| openstacknewb | First step is probably storage made available to VM's as you suggest. Then go from there. | 15:11 |
| annegentle | Swift is object storage, not a file system, so I think SAN makes sense as available to the VMs | 15:14 |
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| openstacknewb | Hmm... yeah, I see your point there. | 15:16 |
| openstacknewb | So for my own education... let's say I have SAN arrays. What would I have to do with OpenStack to make this work? I'm assuming have some sort of layer that could go from OpenStacks API to mine? | 15:17 |
| openstacknewb | Or actually add the support for my API in to OpenStack? | 15:18 |
| nicolas2b | Hi, I as understant nova-volume is the one wich is responsible for managing space available for the VM | 15:18 |
| nicolas2b | *understand | 15:19 |
| nicolas2b | so registering your SAN (the partition in int) in nova-volume let you add those volume to the VM | 15:19 |
| nicolas2b | *in it | 15:20 |
| openstacknewb | Right, so that's pretty "easy" really, create the volumes, register and voila. But what I'm wondering is about the ability to manage the storage (ie create new volumes, resize etc) | 15:20 |
| tjoy | what i'd thought of is building a giant LUN and exporting it to all the nodes, and running GFS on it | 15:21 |
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| nicolas2b | from what I read (I'm also investigating nova-volume, see here a good article - not from me - that I found http://www.dubsquared.com/?p=120) it's openstack that resize the volume according to the flavor of the image you boot | 15:22 |
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| tjoy | so 'volumes' and local VM storage are different | 15:22 |
| tjoy | think of a volume as a USB disk | 15:22 |
| nicolas2b | yes, local VM storage (on swift or local filesystem) is for storing the VM. a VM has no *persistent* storage | 15:23 |
| nicolas2b | volume is for creating persistent storage for the VM | 15:23 |
| nicolas2b | the volume is attached in only 1 VM at a time, and the data stored in it are persisted even after the shutdown and/or delete or the VM | 15:24 |
| openstacknewb | Ok, this makes sense... still trying to figure out how do I make it so that OpenStack and do that administration of volumes on my array? | 15:24 |
| openstacknewb | and to that = can do the | 15:24 |
| nicolas2b | I guess, a this time, the admin is on the CLI | 15:25 |
| nicolas2b | step 6 on the blog post linked before | 15:26 |
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| tjoy | openstacknewb: what type of SAN are you using? | 15:28 |
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| openstacknewb | So I started this question and it kind of diverged. I actually have a NAS appliance, I've been asked to look into how to tie it in with OpenStack and what would need to be done. Sadly nobody actually knows what they're asking for. My first thought was how I could make it work with SWIFT | 15:30 |
| openstacknewb | My next thought was maybe add something to OpenStack to allow the VM's to be hosted on my NAS appliance | 15:30 |
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| creiht | openstacknewb: does your NAS appliance export iscsi targets? | 15:31 |
| openstacknewb | Yes | 15:31 |
| openstacknewb | It also contains a RESTful API | 15:31 |
| openstacknewb | It's actually running on a RHEL-5.5 implementation | 15:31 |
| creiht | so one first thought is to make a volume driver that would allow people to export volumes from your appliance to openstack VMs | 15:32 |
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| openstacknewb | creiht--- that's exactly what I was looking for. | 15:32 |
| tjoy | oh | 15:32 |
| tjoy | openstacknewb: is it a 64-bit CPU? | 15:32 |
| openstacknewb | What I'm trying to figure out is what portion of the Openstack code do I look at to do that? And yes, tjoy, it is 64-bit | 15:33 |
| tjoy | nova-volume | 15:33 |
| creiht | swift is object based storage, not block storage, so I wouldn't expect there would be much to do with it and a NAS appliance | 15:33 |
| tjoy | look into just running nova-volume on it | 15:33 |
| openstacknewb | Considerign changing to Ubuntu | 15:33 |
| creiht | unless you were going to add something like backup from the NAS to swift | 15:33 |
| tjoy | what is already stored on the device? | 15:33 |
| openstacknewb | Nothing, it's an appliance that we sell | 15:34 |
| creiht | openstacknewb: if it helps, swift is similar to amazon's S3 | 15:34 |
| * creiht longs for the day that he doesn't have to make that comparison any more | 15:34 | |
| creiht | openstacknewb: nova-volume is part of the overall nova code base... if you start digging in there you should find it | 15:35 |
| openstacknewb | So that's what I've been looking at, what I can't quite ascertain is: How does OpenStack SWIFT architecture work in terms of adding support for different storage devices? | 15:36 |
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| creiht | openstacknewb: the backend storage nodes are meant to use commodity hardware and rives | 15:37 |
| creiht | drives | 15:37 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #845714 in nova "VDI is not resized to instance_type local_gb on initial boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845714 | 15:38 |
| openstacknewb | Right, so what you're saying is it doesn't care? As long as I create my volumes and present them to the ports running the VM's? | 15:38 |
| creiht | openstacknewb: well swift doesn't have anything to do with that | 15:38 |
| tjoy | openstacknewb: think of swift as a tape library | 15:39 |
| creiht | swift is a stand alone service outside of nova | 15:39 |
| openstacknewb | Ok... I'm with ya | 15:39 |
| creiht | any interaction to swift is through a restful API (GET/PUT objects, etc) | 15:39 |
| openstacknewb | Yep... still with ya | 15:39 |
| creiht | there is no way to mount anything from swift as a volume | 15:40 |
| creiht | well practically at least :) | 15:40 |
| openstacknewb | Right, becuase it's object storage | 15:40 |
| creiht | yup | 15:40 |
| openstacknewb | But what I'm trying to figure out is... in the Tape Library analogy what's the Cartridge in relation to SWIFT? | 15:40 |
| creiht | so its backend storage nodes, are just basic linux boxes with lots of drives | 15:41 |
| creiht | ahh | 15:41 |
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| creiht | a physical disk then, I guess | 15:41 |
| openstacknewb | Ahhh... ok, now the diagram makes more sense to me. | 15:41 |
| creiht | openstacknewb: which diagram are you looking at? | 15:42 |
| tjoy | er, the tape cartridge? it's the blob that you upload | 15:42 |
| openstacknewb | It was part of the SWIFT architecture page, I'll have to find it again | 15:43 |
| creiht | no worries, just was curious | 15:43 |
| openstacknewb | So the big thing I can't figure out is... how do I make OpenStack aware of my storage? | 15:44 |
| openstacknewb | I understand what you're saying about the storage node basicly being a server with disks in it. | 15:44 |
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| nicolas2b | euca-create-volume -s 7 -z nova (-s refers to the size of the volume in GB, and -z is the default zone (usually nova)) | 15:45 |
| nicolas2b | euca-attach-volume vol-00000009 -i i-00000008 -d /dev/vdb | 15:45 |
| nicolas2b | those line make openstack aware of the volumes you jsut created | 15:45 |
| openstacknewb | Ahhhh..... ok, now I'm getting it (I think) | 15:45 |
| tjoy | openstacknewb: what do you mean 'my storage'? | 15:45 |
| tjoy | are you building a swift installation or something for volumes? | 15:46 |
| creiht | openstacknewb: I really don't see any use of a NAS appliance for the backends storage for swift | 15:46 |
| creiht | it makes much more sense that you would use a NAS appliance for volumes in Nova though (like Amazon EBS) | 15:47 |
| nicolas2b | to make a summary, you have VM with nova-compute, you want disk space for the system you use nova-volume. if now the website/app/... that run on the VM want to store object (for example avatar of the user un a forum) put them in swift | 15:47 |
| nicolas2b | the NAS can be useful with the 2 services (swift and nova-volume) because both need hard drive space but the "installation" is very different in swift it's via a REST API (no relation to the physical), with nova-volume you use the raw drive | 15:49 |
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| manish_ | hi all | 15:57 |
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| openstacknewb | nicolas2b - So with with nova-volume, I'm basicly running OpenStack-Nova on my appliance then correct? | 15:59 |
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| openstacknewb | Then I'm using my appliance to contain the VM's themeselves | 15:59 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #845753 in nova "block migration unnecessarily uses sudo for qemu-img" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845753 | 16:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #845788 in glance "update_image in glance.client doesn't add content-length so the swift backend can't chunk" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845788 | 16:46 |
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| BK_man | hi! what to check if EC2 metadata server is not available from compute-only nodes? | 17:30 |
| BK_man | iptables rule on compute node is present (PREROUTING to ec2_dmz_host which is NOT $my_ip) | 17:30 |
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| Jbain | Does anyone know if you can run openstack (using KVM) on non VT supported CPUs? Not looking for performance, but the ability to run it for a test bed | 18:14 |
| jtanner | Jbain, yep, you use the "qemu" virt type | 18:14 |
| jtanner | it works, but it's incredibly slow | 18:15 |
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| Jbain | is it slow but usable? | 18:15 |
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| jtanner | Jbain, yeah, somewhat ... i was able to launch instances with the ttylinux distro and get proper networking | 18:15 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #845866 in nova "exception tracebacks are lost when using raise" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/845866 | 18:16 |
| Jbain | trying to figure out if these 604zif xeons I have are still worth anything | 18:16 |
| jtanner | i tried a full fledged ubuntu instance, but it was too slow for primetime | 18:16 |
| Jbain | gotcha | 18:16 |
| jtanner | Jbain, should be usefuly enough for testing and learning nova-* | 18:16 |
| Jbain | thanks :D | 18:16 |
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| rhh | I'm having an interesting problem with openstack that I can't seem to find an answer for via google. When I start any instance, I get something in the logs about the networking being bad. http://paste.openstack.org/show/2409/ <- either "leased to bad mac" or " leased that isn't associated" | 18:42 |
| rhh | any hints on where to look would be greatly appreciated | 18:42 |
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| kbringard | would this be considered akin to the ec2-tags? | 21:42 |
| kbringard | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/metadata-svc | 21:42 |
| kbringard | well documented, I know | 21:42 |
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| reed | freshly baked http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/09/community-weekly-review-september-2-9/ | 22:28 |
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| rmk | Do I need to use a development snapshot in order to get xapi support into nova? | 23:03 |
| rmk | Standard packages don't seem to support it. | 23:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #842856 in nova "problems terminating lxc instances" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/842856 | 23:37 |
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