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herbster | notmyname: hello are you about matey? | 01:00 |
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hugokuo | does anyone have idea about adding keypairs via nova client ? | 01:16 |
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andy-hk | gretchen | 02:35 |
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HugoKuo__ | HOW TO ADD KEY FROM NOVA | 03:30 |
HugoKuo__ | without euca2ools | 03:31 |
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baynaa | test | 04:25 |
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toluene | reply: test ok | 05:01 |
HugoKuo__ | ls | 05:10 |
HugoKuo__ | ping | 05:10 |
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HugoKuo__ | does nova client provide a function to add keypair ? | 05:11 |
toluene | HugoKuo__, pong | 05:11 |
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HugoKuo__ | wasup | 05:23 |
HugoKuo__ | how's going toluene ....how's your progress | 05:24 |
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Jaesang | Hi, Everyone | 05:56 |
Jaesang | How to use nova client when using keystone? | 05:56 |
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HugoKuo__ | Jaesang , using python-novaclient >2.6.6 | 06:14 |
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Jaesang | How can I know novaclient version? | 06:15 |
HugoKuo__ | Jaesan , example : nova --username <user> --apikey <password> --projectid <> --url <> --region_name <> --version <OSAPI_version> list | 06:16 |
HugoKuo__ | dpkg -l python-novaclient | 06:16 |
Jaesang | oh.. my novaclient is 2.6.4 | 06:17 |
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Jaesang | I'll try upgade version. | 06:17 |
HugoKuo__ | https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient more details | 06:17 |
HugoKuo__ | Jaesang , do you know how to add-keypair with nova client before ? | 06:18 |
Jaesang | I added keypair use euca2ools | 06:18 |
HugoKuo__ | good . how did you setup keystone for euca2ools ? | 06:22 |
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Jaesang | But I didn't add any endpoint for euca2ools(port8773) | 06:23 |
Jaesang | I added keypair use euca2ools before use keystone | 06:23 |
HugoKuo__ | ok | 06:24 |
HugoKuo__ | I try to add keypair from euca2ools .... but the key did not log into DB :< | 06:25 |
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Vadim | hi all | 06:25 |
Vadim | HugoKuo ping | 06:26 |
HugoKuo__ | wasup | 06:26 |
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HugoKuo__ | damn , I can not specify keypair for a particulat instance | 06:26 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> how are you? yesterday we spoke about metadata problem. do you have some free time? | 06:27 |
HugoKuo__ | tell me your problem ... I'll have a look | 06:28 |
Vadim | http://pastie.org/2642867 | 06:29 |
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HugoKuo__ | Vadim , not easy .....many possibilities :< | 06:32 |
HugoKuo__ | how many host r u running for nova ? | 06:32 |
HugoKuo__ | ALL in one ? | 06:32 |
baynaa | when taking a snapshot, nova image-list -> hangs at "saving". "snapshots" table is empty. | 06:32 |
HugoKuo__ | how many nics do ya have on nova | 06:33 |
baynaa | is there anyone made snapshot running? | 06:33 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> yes all in one... 2 nic. When i try wget http://169.254.169.254/index.html -> success | 06:34 |
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HugoKuo__ | ls | 06:40 |
HugoKuo__ | 1. can you ping instance ? 2. does your dnsmasq correct ? 3. brctl show ; ip addr show ; iptables-save plz ... | 06:41 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> i can ping and can ssh.... http://pastie.org/2648066 | 06:45 |
HugoKuo__ | cool ....which network mdoe r u using , and which image r u running ? | 06:46 |
HugoKuo__ | try ... | 06:48 |
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HugoKuo__ | brctl addif br100 eth1 | 06:48 |
HugoKuo__ | thanks | 06:48 |
HugoKuo__ | I think the problem is over here :> ......... | 06:48 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> why eth1 dont added automaticaly? | 06:51 |
HugoKuo__ | not sure .....something wrong .... I saw the flat_interface already been set in nova.conf .... | 06:52 |
HugoKuo__ | maybe you can check ur nova db .....the networks table for more details | 06:52 |
HugoKuo__ | myabe it's a bug or something | 06:53 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> instance can ping 169.254.169.254 | 06:54 |
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HugoKuo__ | so .....maybe the issue is different | 06:57 |
HugoKuo__ | bcz 500 is internal error | 06:57 |
HugoKuo__ | instead of 400 not found | 06:57 |
HugoKuo__ | what's the result of add eth1 to br100 | 06:57 |
HugoKuo__ | Jaesang , Can I have your novarc file ? | 06:58 |
Vadim | <HugoKuo__> i added without any restart... result wget: server returned error: HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error | 06:58 |
Vadim | wget http://169.254.169.254/index.html -> success | 06:58 |
Vadim | strange error ((( | 06:58 |
HugoKuo__ | alright , have a check on launchpad QA board might help | 06:59 |
HugoKuo__ | It's a usual problem as I know | 06:59 |
Vadim | yes... on all answer need added iptables rule or wrong betwork configuration =) | 07:00 |
HugoKuo__ | no idea now :< | 07:02 |
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Jaesang | HugoKuo: oops sorry, I went to meeting | 07:33 |
Jaesang | see this. I made extra source file http://paste.openstack.org/show/2634/ | 07:34 |
Vadim | how often doc about openstack updated? | 07:37 |
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HugoKuo__ | Jaesang , thanks ....but I need original one ....ec2 params inside | 07:40 |
Jaesang | ok | 07:41 |
Jaesang | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2635/ | 07:41 |
Jaesang | see above | 07:41 |
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HugoKuo__ | thx | 07:53 |
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Razique | Hi all | 08:14 |
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Razique | any gerrit/ github users ? | 08:14 |
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HugoKuo__ | hwo to create keypair via API | 08:22 |
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siwos | hi | 08:24 |
siwos | got this issue with diablo on compute | 08:24 |
siwos | rabbitmq server is unstable | 08:24 |
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siwos | it keeps crashing | 08:24 |
siwos | anyone has similar issues? | 08:24 |
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BasTichelaar | any nova experts already awake? :) | 09:32 |
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Vadim | maybe somebody can help with metadata problem? | 09:38 |
Vadim | http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=356 | 09:38 |
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Razique | Vadim: so you can SSH to your instances, but they can't reach the metadata server ? | 09:40 |
Vadim | yes | 09:40 |
Razique | the server returns a 500 error | 09:41 |
Vadim | yes | 09:41 |
Vadim | ( | 09:41 |
Razique | what nova-api.log shows ? | 09:41 |
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Vadim | <Razique> http://pastie.org/2648650 | 09:44 |
Razique | InstanceNotFound: Instance 42 could not be found. | 09:44 |
Razique | how did you launched the instance ? | 09:45 |
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Vadim | <Razique> euca-run-instance -k mykey -t m1.tiny ami-00000010 | 09:46 |
Razique | ok | 09:46 |
Razique | connect to the mysql database, and run : use nova; select * from instances; | 09:47 |
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Vadim | <Razique> as i remember somewhere in config id 42 | 09:48 |
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Razique | so add where id='42' :) | 09:49 |
Vadim | =) | 09:49 |
Vadim | http://pastie.org/2648682 | 09:54 |
Vadim | put this to notepad ) | 09:54 |
Razique | (you can also add a \G; for better clarity, eg select * from instances where id=42\G; ) | 09:55 |
Razique | ok so the instance is into the nova db... | 09:55 |
Razique | what nova-manage network list shows ? | 09:55 |
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Razique | is the IP the good one ? (from the instance what ifconfig outputs ? ) | 09:56 |
Vadim | thx for \G key )) | 09:56 |
Vadim | nova-manage network list -> one network 10.11.11.0/24 | 09:57 |
Vadim | instance have 10.11.11.3 | 09:58 |
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Vadim | Razique sorry | 10:00 |
Vadim | instance have 10.11.11.3/24 | 10:00 |
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Razique | what version of OS are you running ? | 10:03 |
Vadim | why instance id 42? Ubuntu 11.04 natty | 10:06 |
Razique | what image repo do you use ? | 10:06 |
Razique | the images have an ID that OS reffers to | 10:06 |
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Vadim | http://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/ | 10:07 |
sathiya | hi all, i have identified a couple of simple bugs to fix - as am familiar with python... but dont know how to run & test the bug, can somebody help me ? | 10:07 |
sathiya | i dont have a proper setup yet ! i spent sometime in ubuntu 10.04 - failed with some errors ... | 10:08 |
sathiya | is there any public setup available ? | 10:08 |
Vadim | <Razique> http://smoser.brickies.net/ubuntu/ttylinux-uec/ttylinux-uec-amd64-11.2_2.6.35-15_1.tar.gz | 10:09 |
Razique | Vadim: I was more thinking about the OS repo | 10:10 |
viraptor | sathiya: you should probably go through the proper setup then... otherwise, how can you reproduce the bug and confirm it is fixed? | 10:10 |
Razique | Glance, localstore, swift ? | 10:10 |
Razique | your image is ok, since you are able to ssh to it | 10:10 |
BasTichelaar | is anyone using openstack for a lot of parallel requests? like spawning 20 instances at once for example? | 10:11 |
Razique | the issues comes from the nova-api I think | 10:11 |
Vadim | <Razique> glance... i download wget http://c0179148.cdn1.cloudfiles.rackspacecloud.com/ubuntu1010-UEC-localuser-image.tar.gz and he running with error | 10:11 |
sathiya | viraptor: yeah ! but is there any set up available for fixing & testing the bug ? | 10:11 |
Razique | Vadim: what glance index gives ? | 10:11 |
sathiya | viraptor: ok fine, if that is the case, i will continue to do the setup .. thanks. | 10:12 |
Vadim | he gives 2 images that i upload manual with glance command | 10:12 |
Vadim | <Razique> instance that running success i upload with uec-publish-image command | 10:13 |
Razique | ok so so you have somes instances that are able to fetch metadatas while others don't ? | 10:15 |
Vadim | no... all my instance cunt get metadata | 10:15 |
Razique | Vadim: ok, that's what I tought, would you run a glance index | 10:19 |
Razique | ? | 10:19 |
Razique | glance details sorry | 10:19 |
Razique | need to lunch | 10:21 |
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Razique | I'll be back in 1 hour tops :) | 10:21 |
Vadim | http://pastie.org/2648682 | 10:22 |
Vadim | glance dont see all images... | 10:22 |
Vadim | glance see only one but i have 3 | 10:22 |
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armaan | hi friends, i ma little confused. nova uses carrot to connect with RabbitMQ environment, while carrot is already discontinued in favor of Kombu framework ? | 11:05 |
armaan | *am | 11:06 |
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armaan | why cant we use pika instead of carrot? | 11:09 |
viraptor | armaan: diablo final has different implementations, one of them is kombu | 11:10 |
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Vadim | <Razique> ping | 11:31 |
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siwos | anyone knows if you can assign multiple roles to a single user in a project? | 11:31 |
siwos | I mean - can one account be granted netadmin and sysadmin roles? | 11:31 |
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armaan | @viraptor : thanks | 11:54 |
larissa | armaan: Error: "viraptor" is not a valid command. | 11:54 |
armaan | viraptor:thanks | 11:54 |
armaan | where can i find these new implementations. like that one using Kombu | 11:55 |
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armaan | i have one more question, why we are not using Pika ? | 11:56 |
armaan | Pika is something we need that can better handle asynchronous messaging. | 11:59 |
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viraptor | siwos: yes, you can - nova-manage has role add/remove - they operate only on one specific role for the user, not all at once | 12:01 |
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siwos | thanks viraptor | 12:01 |
siwos | well I finally managed to give a user 2 roles | 12:01 |
siwos | netadmin and sysadmin | 12:02 |
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viraptor | armaan: nova.rpc.impl_* - current default is kombu, but you can set it via rpc_backend flag | 12:02 |
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smoser | hm... if sathiya returns, someone should point him at http://devstack.org/ | 12:11 |
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joloughlin | hi im having problems with private IP addresses not being assigned to instances | 12:13 |
joloughlin | this is on the diablo release | 12:13 |
joloughlin | anybody seeing similar issues? | 12:13 |
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dxd828 | hello! | 12:14 |
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Razique | back | 12:18 |
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joloughlin | is anybody having issues with private IP addresses not being assigned when starting instances? | 12:22 |
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tjoy | joloughlin: I experienced that once, on diablo-4, but i haven't tried the release. Are you sure you're using the most up-to-date recommended diablo code? | 12:29 |
tjoy | i was told that it was a bug, and that it was patched | 12:29 |
tjoy | but i didn't test anything other than finding out i had no dhcp | 12:30 |
joloughlin | tjoy: i'm fairly sure its the release | 12:31 |
joloughlin | has the problem gone away for you now? | 12:31 |
tjoy | no, i put the project on hold | 12:32 |
tjoy | that means i haven't done anything to try fixing it | 12:32 |
tjoy | i'm just giving you the explanation that I received | 12:32 |
joloughlin | ok, thanks | 12:32 |
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Vadim | <Razique> p | 12:54 |
Razique | yup | 12:54 |
Razique | so | 12:54 |
Razique | Where were we , | 12:54 |
Vadim | http://pastie.org/2648682 | 12:55 |
Vadim | i have 3 images but glance see only one | 12:55 |
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Vadim | i mean 3 ami images | 12:59 |
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Vadim | images that glance don't see i uploaded with uec-publish-image | 13:02 |
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Razique | Vadim: actually, I've noticed something : when you upload images with glance, the meta-data fields are somehow not put in the right place | 13:13 |
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Razique | connec to you glance database, and make sur into the "image_properties" field, you have : | 13:14 |
Vadim | <Razique> i dont think that when i uploade images with glance i uploaded correct | 13:14 |
Vadim | why i dont see images in glance when i upload with uec? | 13:15 |
Razique | I use nova-mange image image-register IMAGE.img is_public="T" | 13:15 |
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Razique | then I nee to update some infos into the database first | 13:15 |
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smoser | Vadim, i believe its just a bug in the ec2 api interface. | 13:15 |
willemb | Hi. Just saw on slashdot that openstack has been opensourced. Peaked my interest. How does it compare to something like proxmox? | 13:16 |
smoser | Vadim, it would be nice if you'd open a bug on that against nova https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+filebug | 13:16 |
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Vadim | <Razique> can you give me correct example how you uploade image with nova-manage. With kernel? | 13:19 |
Razique | Sure :) | 13:20 |
Vadim | <smoser> i am not sure that is a bug... maybe this is bug only in my installation | 13:20 |
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smoser | Vadim, i see it also. you're just saying that images registered with ec2-register (which uec-publish-tarball uses) have empty fields in 'nova image-list' , right? | 13:21 |
Vadim | <smoser> in nova image-list i see with active status... but in glance index didnt see this images | 13:22 |
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smoser | Vadim, i'd have to poke more to see. | 13:23 |
Razique | Vadim: here http://pastie.org/2649582 | 13:24 |
Razique | Don't use euca2ools for image registering | 13:24 |
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Razique | it duplicates the images, and he's a bit messy in it's approach | 13:24 |
Razique | I get rid of it for images management and everything goes much better | 13:24 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: when do you get this errors? | 13:25 |
tjoy | razique, thanks, I needed that | 13:25 |
joloughlin | when i launch instances | 13:25 |
tjoy | Razique: is that paste set to expire? | 13:25 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: like a lot at the same time? or just random? | 13:25 |
Razique | actually the euca2ools uses the settings that you put into your novarc (eg S3 service) | 13:25 |
joloughlin | random | 13:26 |
Razique | tjoy: I don't know | 13:26 |
joloughlin | some instances will get assigned some wont | 13:26 |
joloughlin | the ones that wont just stay in pending state | 13:26 |
willemb | Does all this 'euaca*' type chatter I see mean that openstack is closely related to eucalyptus? | 13:26 |
Razique | let's say you have a Glance repo, euca2ools will put the image to that repo, but also into /var/lib/nova/images/etc... | 13:26 |
joloughlin | typically if i start say 20 instances less than half will get a private IP | 13:26 |
tjoy | willemb: openstack uses the ec2 api, like eucalyptus, but as far as I know they don't share much code | 13:26 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: I have the same, but only when I fire up 20+ instances at once | 13:26 |
joloughlin | as seen from euca-describe-insatnces | 13:26 |
Razique | willemb: actually, since openstack and eucalyptus exploit the same Amazon API | 13:27 |
joloughlin | ah, for me even if its 10 or so happens | 13:27 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: it has to do with the db connection pooling | 13:27 |
Razique | this tools is able to exploit openstack in some parts, but it's deprecated I think | 13:27 |
willemb | tjoy: Is there somewhere I can get a video or (preferably) a nice overview document of how all of this fits together? | 13:27 |
Vadim | <Razique> nova-manage image ramdisk_register CentOS-6.0-x86_64.img | 13:27 |
joloughlin | have you got a work around for ut? | 13:27 |
BasTichelaar | you can increase it a bit by increasing thread_cache_size in the my.cnf settings | 13:27 |
willemb | we currently use proxmox with kvm for virtualization, but I am intruqued about options to scale it out | 13:27 |
tjoy | willemb: i don't know one off hand, but this is the place to ask. check docs.openstack.org | 13:27 |
Vadim | <Razique> need image_register? | 13:28 |
Razique | the only thing it has that the native tool doesn't is the ability to launch an instance without assigning it a public ip | 13:28 |
Razique | Vadim: noope | 13:28 |
Razique | the image is the last part since it depends on ramdisk and kernel | 13:28 |
joloughlin | what value did you set yours too? | 13:28 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: no, but I know a lot of sqlalchemy code got reverted, see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/838581 | 13:28 |
Razique | Vadim: in order to get the ramdisk and kernel ID's launch a "$ glance index" | 13:29 |
joloughlin | yeah I'm seeing that error message | 13:29 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: I did apply that patch, and things got a little bit better, but not reliable still | 13:29 |
Razique | Vadim: I myself don't use the whole ramdisk / kernel split | 13:29 |
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Vadim | <Razique> ok thx you for help.... i try to test this | 13:29 |
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SSIlver2k2 | lo all | 13:30 |
Razique | I create raw files with both embeded, eats more space ^^ | 13:30 |
Razique | hey | 13:30 |
joloughlin | BasTichelaar: Thanks for help | 13:30 |
Razique | Vadim: then if you look at the glance DB after the upload, you will notice that you need to update the fields a bit | 13:30 |
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Razique | (change project_id and image_location fields into the image_properties table) | 13:31 |
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Razique | and also if you want to add a name :) | 13:31 |
BasTichelaar | joloughlin: if you want to read more about it: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg04282.html | 13:31 |
gnu111 | in swift each storage node works a separate node in the ring? can someone explain that to me bit better. I have 8 nodes so does that mean I have 8 zones? | 13:31 |
Vadim | <Razique> omg.. manual change this fields in DB? | 13:31 |
Vadim | <Razique> or glance update? | 13:31 |
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Razique | here is how my glance looks like : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2637/ | 13:32 |
Razique | Vadim: yah, it's the same :) | 13:32 |
kbringard | Vadim: one word of warning, though | 13:32 |
kbringard | if you use glance update | 13:32 |
Razique | but pay attention that fields are erased if you don't overwrite the value | 13:32 |
kbringard | you need to do it as if you're doing it with no fields already in there | 13:32 |
Razique | yah, hehe kbringard, that's why I use the DB directly | 13:33 |
Razique | hello btw dude :) | 13:33 |
kbringard | yea, what Razique said: if you don't include a field that was already there, it'll change it to deleted = 1 and you'll need to go into the DB and change it back | 13:33 |
kbringard | Razique: hello | 13:33 |
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Vadim | thx guys. so many thing need to do for upload image ( | 13:34 |
Razique | that's why I don't use glance update at all, tooks less time to update the fields through the db ^^ | 13:34 |
SSIlver2k2 | probably a very noob question, but, why would I use open compute over say something like xen? (ive used rackspaces cloud before, and ec2, as well as running a bunch of hyper-v systems at work and esxi at home) | 13:34 |
Razique | Vadim: yah, but when you will get use to it, it'll go better | 13:34 |
kbringard | SSIlver2k2: OpenStack orchestrates hypervisors like Xen | 13:34 |
tjoy | SSIlver2k2: nova is a management layer on top of whatever hypervisor you choose | 13:35 |
SSIlver2k2 | really... | 13:35 |
SSIlver2k2 | thats interesting | 13:35 |
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kbringard | it's more akin to eucalyptus than to Xen | 13:36 |
Razique | exactly | 13:36 |
SSIlver2k2 | aaahhhhhhhhh | 13:36 |
SSIlver2k2 | that makes a lot more sense now | 13:37 |
* Razique just succeed in the creation of a centOS 6.0 image o/ | 13:38 | |
kbringard | yea, even a company as big as amazon uses Xen under their ec2 orchestration layers… it probably doesn't make a whole lot of sense to redo the hypervisor at this point | 13:38 |
SSIlver2k2 | right | 13:38 |
kbringard | a bit off topic, but sad about Steve Jobs | 13:38 |
Razique | kbringard: any doc on the Amazon techs ? | 13:38 |
Vadim | <SSIlver2k2> but at this moment nova can manage only 2 hypervisors. XEN and KVM http://wiki.openstack.org/HypervisorSupportMatrix | 13:38 |
kbringard | whether you like the guy or not, he was a pretty amazing business genius | 13:39 |
SSIlver2k2 | it seems that hypervisors have become a pretty stable peice of technology atm. might as well move onto other areas that need polishing | 13:39 |
Razique | kbringard: yup, I was confused this morning about him | 13:40 |
kbringard | Vadim: I think that's out of date | 13:40 |
kbringard | I was on a plane home from Boston | 13:40 |
kbringard | so I take off and everything is peachy, then when I turned on my phone after we landed I got like, 100 text messages and my twitter exploded | 13:40 |
kbringard | hah | 13:40 |
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Razique | kbringard: harsh… I learned it when I arrived at work and checked my RSS fields | 13:41 |
Razique | it's still very weird though | 13:41 |
kbringard | yea, it wasn't unexpected, but it still seems surreal | 13:42 |
SSIlver2k2 | I wasn't expecting it so soon after the new product announcement | 13:42 |
willemb | does openstack play in the same general area as proxmox? | 13:42 |
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Razique | what he said few years back about how you should enjoy life and present things makes all it's sense now I guess | 13:42 |
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Razique | willemb: not really | 13:42 |
kbringard | willemb: kind of, but not exactly | 13:43 |
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kbringard | lol, I'm just going to be quiet, Razique's on a roll | 13:43 |
SSilver2k2 | im wondering how apple's stock is going to do today | 13:43 |
Razique | proxmox is an orchestrator for KVM, while openstack is a cloud-platform, hypervisor-free | 13:43 |
Razique | kbringard: hehe :p | 13:44 |
willemb | Razique: would you mind elaborating on that (actually, I am surprized and happy that you even know what proxmox is) | 13:44 |
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Razique | willemb: proxmox is a webinterface which is able to connect to libvirt/ kvm and manage your VM, plus add serveral nice functionalits (EG : scheduled backups, SAN attachments, alerting), it's for KVM/libvirt to what webalizer is for log files :p | 13:46 |
willemb | and openstack does not provide all of that and more? | 13:46 |
Razique | openstack in one another hand is a python-writtend cloud platform which supports more hypervisor, and a much more complete architecture | 13:46 |
Razique | openstack has mainly it's flexibility as a strengh, for instance, every component can be installed separately, all communication is made through HTTP | 13:47 |
willemb | so by hypervisor-free, you meant 'not tied to a specific virtualization technology" ? | 13:47 |
Razique | willemb: exactly | 13:47 |
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Razique | and you are able to easily create a complex virtualisation architecture that suits your needs | 13:48 |
kbringard | Razique: gotta be careful saying all communication is made through HTTP… the components talk over AMPQ :-) | 13:48 |
Razique | proxmox does system calls to libvirt commands mainly | 13:48 |
Razique | kbringard: yes, exactly, my bad | 13:49 |
kbringard | no worries, just sayin' | 13:49 |
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willemb | so if i had a bunch of near-identical machines (their differences properly defined via puppet), I could boot a bunch of vm's from the same image, have them do a puppet run to install extra software and what-not, plus mount some shared storage, and bob's my uncle? | 13:49 |
Razique | I was waiting someone to correct me in my soliloquy | 13:49 |
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Razique | willemb: exactly | 13:50 |
Razique | puppet or chef do that fine | 13:50 |
Razique | I myself prefer Puppet | 13:50 |
willemb | I meant, I currently have near identical setups on real machines, and could use openstack to get to the second part of my description. Sorry, not being very clear | 13:50 |
Razique | :p | 13:50 |
Razique | willemb: actually, your servers don't need to be identical | 13:51 |
kbringard | willemb: you can also define "user data" that does stuff when a machine boots, so like, if you want to have a vanilla image without the agents installed, you can have user-data install the agent and register it with the server | 13:51 |
tjoy | willemb: you could create canned openstack images to your specification, and have them configured by puppet | 13:51 |
tjoy | and run as many as you can stand | 13:51 |
Razique | the only pre-requisite I would say is the server that will run the hypervisor tech. is able to do that | 13:51 |
Razique | (eg. nova-compute)- | 13:51 |
kbringard | as an aside, I personally find that having a small set of basic images which get configured after boot is the right way to go | 13:52 |
kbringard | as opposed to creating a new iterative image after every change | 13:52 |
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Razique | kbringard: funny, I do the opposite, creating pre-configured images | 13:53 |
Razique | But i really should use a post-deployment solution, makes better sense | 13:53 |
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Razique | anyone deals with Windows images ? I want to know how you manage the windows licences | 13:53 |
kbringard | eh, to each their own | 13:53 |
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kbringard | Razique: I don't, but I'd be curious to see what you come up with :-) | 13:53 |
kbringard | because I've asked that same question myself many times | 13:54 |
Razique | I'll try now to create a windows image, I think they have to be images that don't require an activation | 13:54 |
kbringard | I'm not remotely a Windows admin, so I have no idea what tools are available, but the first thing I thought is that you'd need as site license | 13:54 |
Razique | yup | 13:54 |
Razique | let's try ! | 13:55 |
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kbringard | which could get pricey, given that you can spin up exponentially more "copies" of it | 13:55 |
kbringard | someone sent me some instructions a long time ago about how they did it | 13:55 |
kbringard | they didn't deal with licensing, though, they just got Windows installed | 13:56 |
kbringard | lemme see if I can find it | 13:56 |
willemb | So, my images will live on a 'swift' instance, and be presented to my 'compute' machines via 'image service' | 13:56 |
Razique | kbringard: I think you need the MSDN licences | 13:56 |
Razique | willemb: what do you mean ? | 13:56 |
willemb | The missing component is 'where do i save the data that will be different on different machines? | 13:56 |
kbringard | willemb: yea, although you don't have to use swift, the image service (glance) supports a lot of different backend storage models | 13:57 |
kbringard | to make it easy, I'd stick with the local filesystem to start with | 13:58 |
kbringard | which I think is the default in the glance configs | 13:58 |
willemb | like, if I have a standardized 'web server' image, where do people generally put their docroots? | 13:58 |
kbringard | willemb: you can do a few things | 13:58 |
kbringard | setup an NFS or other share outside of OpenStack | 13:59 |
kbringard | that their instances can access, then you have them mount it on boot | 13:59 |
kbringard | or, there is a volume service | 13:59 |
kbringard | which essentially carves out LUNs and iSCSI exports them | 13:59 |
kbringard | to the instance | 13:59 |
kbringard | it emulates ec2's EBS volumes | 13:59 |
willemb | unfortunately, I don't know what ec2's EBS volumes are | 14:00 |
kbringard | and is exposed via the API, so your users can create volumes and attach/detach them at will | 14:00 |
kbringard | willemb: http://aws.amazon.com/ebs/ | 14:00 |
kbringard | brb | 14:00 |
willemb | what tech do people generally reccommend to use underneath all this shared storage? | 14:00 |
Razique | willemb: for that shared storage, I use an HP San | 14:01 |
Razique | it works pretty well for my needs, bigger stuctures have biggers hardware | 14:02 |
willemb | it seems to be the missing component in all our virtualization drives... where to put the data unique to a machine. You know, the customers docroots and mailboxes, databases, etc | 14:02 |
Razique | (FC cluster for instance) | 14:02 |
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tjoy | willemb: if you need persistant storage, use a volume | 14:04 |
willemb | tjoy: 'use a volume' ? | 14:05 |
willemb | can I store volumes like I can store vm images? | 14:05 |
willemb | that would be exiting | 14:05 |
tjoy | more or less. do you use EBS on amazon? | 14:05 |
tjoy | volumes are like USB disks, you can attach them to any instance | 14:05 |
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willemb | tjoy: no. We have mostly real machines, an a coulpe of qemu virtual machines hosted by ourselves on proxmox clusters | 14:06 |
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tjoy | if i'm not mistaken, and I haven't used volumes yet, the volume storage is on one central machine and exported by iscsi to whichever instance | 14:06 |
tjoy | they're persistant and they can move around | 14:06 |
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kbringard | tjoy: that is mostly correct | 14:08 |
kbringard | the only caveat I'd give is that the controller itself (which does the exporting) is on one machine, but if I were using this in a production setting, I would employ some kind of redundant disk on the backend (like a SAN or something) and have that be accessible by the volume-controller | 14:08 |
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Razique | kbringard: that's what I do yah :) | 14:13 |
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Razique | SAN ---ISCSI----> nova-volumes ----ISCSI----> instances | 14:13 |
willemb | The object storage page says "software for creating redundant, scalable object storage using clusters of standardized server". So I should not take the 'standardized servers' part too serious? | 14:13 |
tjoy | yup. | 14:13 |
tjoy | willemb: so swift is like amazon s3, entirely removed from nova | 14:14 |
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willemb | :-( I have been mostly ignoring how amazon s3 is put together, so is is unfortunate that people keep on likening things to it when they explain how works :-) | 14:15 |
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kbringard | willemb: amazon's services are probably the biggest player in this whole market so getting aws compatibility is important to switching people over | 14:19 |
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kbringard | if you want to get into private clouds, it's useful to read about amazon's stuff | 14:19 |
Razique | Interesting article http://openfoo.org/blog/amazon_ec2_underlying_architecture.html | 14:20 |
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Vadim | <Razique> can you read pls private msg? | 14:23 |
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willemb | so, is it still reccommended to use something like an hp san as underlying technology for storing everything? or is there a way I can leverage disks in machines? | 14:29 |
willemb | like you can do with sheepdog | 14:31 |
kbringard | swift will do that for you | 14:31 |
kbringard | or there are other object storage technologies like ceph, riak | 14:31 |
willemb | excellent. no need for expensive sans if I already have a couple of hundred servers with 2 500GB disks in each | 14:32 |
doude | hi, all. I get this error on nova-api.log on user login with keystone | 14:32 |
doude | nova.api.openstack: None could not be found with token '999888777666' | 14:32 |
willemb | Can I use the same group of hosts for all three components? | 14:32 |
kbringard | who, based on their presence at the conference in Boston seem to be pushing to get their stuff to work with OpenStack | 14:32 |
kbringard | willemb: yea, you should be able to, but I have limited experience with swift, so I'm not 100% sure how well it plays on the same hosts with everything else | 14:33 |
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kbringard | doude: I think that's the default admin user token | 14:33 |
Razique | kbringard: how the keystone implementation is going for you ? | 14:33 |
kbringard | although, I have not used keystone enough to know why you'd be getting that error | 14:33 |
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kbringard | Razique: not had a chance to try it yet :-D | 14:33 |
kbringard | so, I guess, great :-D | 14:33 |
doude | kbringard: yes, it's the admin token but I try to log with admin account. It should works | 14:34 |
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doude | kbringard: I get the same error another user with different token | 14:35 |
tjoy | willemb: running swift on your compute nodes is probably impossible, and if not, a bad idea. it's suited to purpose-built storage clusters | 14:35 |
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willemb | ok, so split my dc in 2. One half will be compute nodes and one half swift nodes? | 14:36 |
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BasTichelaar | is anyone able to run 25+ instances at once without getting sqlalchemy exceptions? | 14:40 |
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kbringard | doude: sorry, was afk, I dunno, I don't know very much about keystone so I'm probably not the best person to ask | 14:47 |
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Razique | http://www.cloudactu.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/infographie-symantec-CloudActu.png | 14:48 |
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doude | kbringard: ok no pb | 14:58 |
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BasTichelaar | nobody runniong 25+ instances at once? | 15:07 |
kbringard | BasTichelaar: do you mean like, -n 25 | 15:07 |
kbringard | or do you mean you run euca-run-instances 25 times? | 15:08 |
BasTichelaar | kbringard: yes, like -n 25 | 15:08 |
kbringard | I know the new Diasblo DB pooling model seems to be causing some problems | 15:08 |
kbringard | and I've seen lazy load errors when describing instances | 15:08 |
BasTichelaar | kbringard: yes, thats what Im experiencing | 15:08 |
kbringard | I'd check the open bugs on launchpad and see if any of them describe what you're seeing | 15:09 |
kbringard | otherwise, I'd file a new one | 15:09 |
BasTichelaar | kbringard: I know they reverted the patch, but it still isnt very reliable | 15:09 |
kbringard | I think we're targeting a backports release for the next week or 2 | 15:09 |
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andyandy__ | I am using diablo, I created an ubuntu image following the manual but when I publish it "uec-publish-image" I get the eeror message "failed to register vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-server.manifest.xml" and "failed to register vmlinuz-2.6.32-28-server" any suggestion? thank you | 15:17 |
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BasTichelaar | kbringard: thanks :) | 15:21 |
doude | Do you use 'key' or 'file' option with novaclient CLI ? | 15:24 |
doude | I tested it, but nothing was inject to the instance rootfs | 15:24 |
adam_g | hmm. does --quota_instances on the api server override what is set per-project in the quotas table in db? | 15:28 |
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shaon | that's fantastic! | 15:38 |
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Razique | kbringard: ok, I'm stuck on the "Windows cannot load viostor.sys" | 15:41 |
Razique | hehe | 15:41 |
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BasTichelaar | adam_g: yes it does | 15:44 |
BasTichelaar | adam_g: or wait, maybe it sets the defaults... yes defaults only | 15:44 |
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adam_g | BasTichelaar: those are enforced per project or per user? im having trouble allowing more than the default instances (10) after modifying both | 15:46 |
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BasTichelaar | adam_g: look at the cap on the cores and memory | 15:54 |
joloughlin | is anybody seeing problems with floating ips on the diablo release? | 15:55 |
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BasTichelaar | joloughlin: like? | 15:55 |
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joloughlin | I cant assign a floating to an instance | 15:56 |
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joloughlin | btw, carrying on from before, the problem with private ip addresses starts when i try strating 10 or more instances at the same time | 15:57 |
BasTichelaar | yes, same here | 15:57 |
joloughlin | the more I start the worse the problem, if i start say 50 then only about 30 or so get a private ip | 15:57 |
BasTichelaar | jep, know the problem | 15:58 |
BasTichelaar | did you test the proposed patch? | 15:58 |
joloughlin | not yet | 15:58 |
joloughlin | am looking at the floating problem now as well | 15:58 |
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joloughlin | with that, if i set auto_assign_floating_ip then instance remains pending and never starts | 15:59 |
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Razique | bye all! :) | 16:13 |
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koolhead17 | hi all | 18:21 |
VadimH | hi | 18:22 |
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VadimH | <koolhead17> when you upload image with uec tools | 18:27 |
VadimH | <koolhead17> you see this image in glance index? | 18:28 |
koolhead17 | VadimH: no. i don`t use glance command at all. :D | 18:28 |
VadimH | <koolhead17> we spoke with you yesterday and you say that you use glance for uploade image ) | 18:30 |
koolhead17 | VadimH: i did and yes "glance index" command lists the uploaded images | 18:30 |
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koolhead17 | once i got euca-commads for upload image working i stopped using glance commands :D | 18:31 |
VadimH | you change something and euca working? | 18:32 |
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VadimH | <koolhead17> ? | 18:50 |
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koolhead17 | VadimH: yes i added port num 9292 in nova.conf along with glace host | 18:53 |
VadimH | oh | 18:53 |
VadimH | and you use uec-publish-image? | 18:54 |
koolhead17 | yes | 18:54 |
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VadimH | <koolhead17> can you execute euca-version | 19:25 |
koolhead17 | VadimH: am home currently and i dont have access to box. :( we can talk about it later :D | 19:26 |
VadimH | oh )) i am at home to... but i cant sleep when i know that my opanstack doesnt work fine | 19:27 |
VadimH | =) | 19:27 |
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koolhead17 | VadimH: its 1 am for me here :D | 19:29 |
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paulw__ | hello. I'm looking for directions for a single node install or install everything in a VM | 19:35 |
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annegentle | paulw__: Try the all-in-one script at http://devstack.org for Compute and the Storage all-in-one on http://swift.openstack.org/development_saio.html | 19:38 |
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paulw__ | thank you | 19:39 |
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VadimH | <annegentle> oh hello nice to see you at channel =) | 19:52 |
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kbringard | anyone here have experience with Crowbar? | 20:02 |
WormMan | I used one at my old house to pull up the floor | 20:08 |
VadimH | =) | 20:09 |
VadimH | <kbringard> what version nova you use? | 20:09 |
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VadimH | i have 2012.1-dev (2012.1-LOCALBRANCH:LOCALREVISION) | 20:10 |
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VadimH | maybe all my problem because i use this version? 2011.3 more stable or no? | 20:10 |
VadimH | =) | 20:10 |
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rmk | Vadim: yes, 2011.3 is the current stable (Diablo) release | 20:14 |
rmk | kbringard: beyond seeing a demo and hearing positive things about it.. nothing specific | 20:16 |
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VadimH | <rmk> how can i install stable release... in ubuntu package 2012.1-dev | 20:17 |
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kbringard | VadimH: a few different ones, but mostly diablo and trunk | 20:19 |
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rmk | VadimH: There are a few PPAs you can choose from (apt repos) | 20:21 |
rmk | http://wiki.openstack.org/PPAs | 20:21 |
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rmk | you'd want ppa:openstack-release/2011.3 | 20:21 |
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VadimH | i dont understand why i have in ubuntu packages 2012.1-dev | 20:23 |
VadimH | =) | 20:23 |
rmk | Those are snapshot packages of the current trunk, which is essex (the next release) | 20:23 |
rmk | You must have pointed to the trunk ppa | 20:23 |
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VadimH | how do you think must i install 2011.3? because i dont have strength to fight with 2012.1. issue with metadata, with uec tools. | 20:28 |
VadimH | i wanna install true working stable version.. and when i learn how all work maybe i play with 2012.1 =) | 20:29 |
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terje | hola- are the videos from the conf. in boston being posted on the site? | 22:48 |
catintheroof | terje, good question ! :D | 22:48 |
WormMan | hmm, that would be cool, I'd love to mock my coworker :) | 22:49 |
catintheroof | ahhahaah | 22:49 |
terje | I'm guessing they're all out at happy hour now.. | 22:49 |
WormMan | there is threats afoot to send me to the next one... as long as it's not gonna be in boston | 22:50 |
kbringard | WormMan: it's a good time, even if it is in boston | 22:51 |
kbringard | on Monday night HP rented out an irish pub and handed us mugs when we walked in with instructions to "Fill this up as many times as you'd like" | 22:51 |
WormMan | it would take me 2 days to fly to boston, because I sure don't want to fly commericial :) | 22:52 |
WormMan | (or spell) | 22:52 |
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kbringard | anyway, I'm out | 22:52 |
kbringard | have a good one, guys | 22:52 |
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