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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873125 in openstack-dashboard "Audit and improve all error messages displayed to users" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873125 | 00:01 |
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| rmk | Any thoughts as to what would cause images to lack a "launch" button in the dashboard? | 00:26 |
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| rmk | well, code issue .. | 00:31 |
| xtoddx | rmk: status != available? | 00:31 |
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| rmk | I updated dashboard to master as opposed to the diablo branch and it works now. | 00:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #873133 in swift "Etag in HEAD or GET of a segmented file (manifest) does not work as documented" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873133 | 00:46 |
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| gourneau | Is notmyname around ? | 01:59 |
| gourneau | Have y'all seen the backblaze JBODs? Can those be used in a smart way by openstack's swift ? | 02:00 |
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| creiht | gourneau: With some modifications, perhaps :) | 02:09 |
| creiht | for swift, it would need more cpu, for example | 02:09 |
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| creiht | I would also worry about the lack of redundancy | 02:10 |
| creiht | like for power for example | 02:10 |
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| creiht | it also sounds cumbersome to replace drives easily on one | 02:10 |
| creiht | You can get pretty close to that type of density, with more standard/reliable commodity hardware for not a lot more | 02:11 |
| creiht | for example | 02:12 |
| creiht | http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/847/SC847E16-RJBOD1.cfm | 02:12 |
| gourneau | I saw that on hackernews as well, the drive bays look nice. | 02:13 |
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| creiht | They are very nice :) | 02:13 |
| gourneau | So can swift make a data store out of a pools of disks like those? | 02:13 |
| creiht | that is what it was designed for | 02:13 |
| creiht | right now we currently run on a more standard 4U with 24 2T drives chassis | 02:14 |
| gourneau | What are the types of redundancy? How easy is it to scale? | 02:14 |
| creiht | gourneau: swift was built on a model similar to S3 | 02:14 |
| creiht | swift stores 3 redundant copies of each object in 3 separate zones | 02:15 |
| creiht | zones are very abstract, so it could be set up to be 3 different drives, or 3 different racks, each with different power/network etc. | 02:15 |
| gourneau | Where a zone would be a JBOD chassie? | 02:15 |
| creiht | depending on how much you want to isolate failure | 02:15 |
| gourneau | Oh I see | 02:16 |
| med_out | ideally each zone is as isolated as possible from other zones (w/r/t failure modes) | 02:16 |
| creiht | correct | 02:16 |
| creiht | each of our zones are multiple racks of servers that have isolated power/networking/etc. | 02:16 |
| gourneau | How should the disks be formated? Do I have to setup raid or LVM or anything fancy? Does switft just remove the need for those layers ? | 02:16 |
| gourneau | The file size is 5 gigs right now right ? | 02:17 |
| creiht | we recommend that each drive be formatted with xfs | 02:17 |
| med_out | no raid (it defeats the purpose) | 02:17 |
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| gourneau | I am bummed my company just dropped over a million on a lame DDN system. | 02:17 |
| creiht | the max object size is 5 gigs, but you can have larger objects through manifest files that point to multiple chunks of an object | 02:18 |
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| creiht | a get on the manifest will serve it as if it was one single file | 02:18 |
| gourneau | How are the objects accessed? Are the objects of the file system? Or do I have to go through another interface. | 02:19 |
| creiht | they are on the filesystem | 02:19 |
| creiht | gourneau: btw: http://swift.openstack.org/ | 02:20 |
| creiht | has a lot of documentation :) | 02:20 |
| gourneau | If I had a multi terabyte file through a manifest file, would that be a bad idea? | 02:20 |
| gourneau | hah ok, I will check it out :) | 02:20 |
| gourneau | Thanks for the info | 02:20 |
| creiht | gourneau: not at all | 02:20 |
| creiht | np | 02:20 |
| gourneau | Are any of y'all from Texas? I ran into Dragon at PyTexas last year | 02:20 |
| gourneau | (Dragon of Rackspace) | 02:20 |
| creiht | gourneau: all of the rackspace swift devs are in San Antonio | 02:21 |
| creiht | and, yes, I know Dragon :) | 02:21 |
| gourneau | Very cool :) | 02:21 |
| gourneau | So what magic sauce is Nebula going to bring to the market ? | 02:22 |
| * creiht defers to the nebulites :) | 02:25 | |
| gourneau | Dear Nebulites, we the builders of the nets need petabytes now , we will spend $100,000/petabyte. Thanks! | 02:26 |
| livemoon | help, node cannot ping internet, but vm on node can.what problem? | 02:27 |
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| hugokuo | mm | 02:50 |
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| livemoon | hi, hugokuo | 02:59 |
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| hugokuo | 妳好 | 03:13 |
| livemoon | I meet a big problem | 03:16 |
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| hugokuo | yes? | 03:20 |
| livemoon | can we use chinese? | 03:21 |
| livemoon | or I send email to you | 03:21 |
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| livemoon | hi | 03:38 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873153 in openstack-qa "nova.crypto" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873153 | 04:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873156 in nova "Unhandled exception during 'nova image-create' caused by wrong destination format in qemu-img create" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873156 | 04:56 |
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| mandela123 | is nova still support euca-tools | 06:05 |
| mandela123 | in the diable 4 | 06:05 |
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| mandela123 | i can not use euca-describe-avaibles-zones | 06:05 |
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| siwos | mandela123: which version of nova do you use? | 06:07 |
| siwos | in cactus many commands related to zones did not work | 06:07 |
| siwos | in diablo it seems to be working | 06:07 |
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| livemoon | hi, siwos | 06:22 |
| siwos | hello | 06:22 |
| livemoon | tomorrow I sent you email | 06:22 |
| livemoon | nono.yesterday | 06:22 |
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| siwos | yes - I answered | 06:22 |
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| siwos | unfortunately - did not come across your error yet personally :-( | 06:22 |
| siwos | so - cannot help with this | 06:22 |
| livemoon | that's all right | 06:23 |
| livemoon | I have reported it as bug to the developer | 06:23 |
| livemoon | by the way, which lvm ha do you use for your volume? | 06:24 |
| livemoon | or just make disk raid? | 06:24 |
| siwos | we have no ha | 06:27 |
| siwos | currently ;-) | 06:27 |
| siwos | but I know of installations which use clvm (cluster lvm) | 06:27 |
| siwos | you might use this one | 06:27 |
| siwos | http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Cluster_Logical_Volume_Manager/LVM_Cluster_Overview.html | 06:28 |
| siwos | check this one out | 06:28 |
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| livemoon | siwos : thank you for your help. I have seen your sildshare ,but your page 82 are too small. | 06:29 |
| siwos | aah ;-) | 06:30 |
| livemoon | I cannot see what machines they are | 06:30 |
| siwos | bl2x220c from hp | 06:30 |
| siwos | I will try to send you a pdf version as soon as I get one | 06:30 |
| livemoon | siwos : cool | 06:30 |
| livemoon | Does nova-volume support in redhat? | 06:34 |
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| Vadim | hi all | 07:09 |
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| livemoon | hi Vadim | 07:15 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873183 in openstack-qa "nova.wsgi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873183 | 07:31 |
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| Vadim | http://pastie.org/2682030 | 07:46 |
| Vadim | can anybody help? | 07:46 |
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| livemoon | Vadim : give more args | 07:49 |
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| livemoon | Vadim : try to give --bridge=<bridge> | 07:50 |
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| royh | i really don't understand how the routing/networking in openstack works, and the docs aren't helping much. are there any extensive documentation on it out there somewhere? | 08:00 |
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| Vadim | <livemoon> no options bridge | 08:06 |
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| livemoon | Vadim : which version do you use? | 08:10 |
| Vadim | nova? | 08:10 |
| Vadim | 2011.3 (2011.3-nova-milestone-tarball:tarmac-20110922115702-k9nkvxqzhj130av2) | 08:11 |
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| livemoon | Vadim : nova-manage floating create fltest --ip_range=192.168.0.184/29 1 16 | 08:14 |
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| livemoon | Vadim: sorry | 08:15 |
| livemoon | I have mistake. | 08:15 |
| livemoon | Vadim :nova-manage floating create --ip_range=192.168.0.184/29 | 08:16 |
| livemoon | try this | 08:16 |
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| Vadim | i run my instance he obtain ip... when i ssh to this instance i try ping internet resource but he cant ping... trace only 1 hop to br100 and that all. | 09:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873216 in openstack-dashboard "Auto refresh isn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873216 | 09:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #803086 in quantum "plugins.ini should be collapsed into quantum.conf to prevent configuraitn"sprawl"" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/803086 | 09:41 |
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| koolhead17 | morning all! | 10:05 |
| alexn65 | midday :) | 10:09 |
| alexn65 | koolhead17: can you give some light on my head about nova images - is it possible to directly use vmdk or qcow, etc images for VMs? I still cannot get it | 10:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873243 in nova (main) "nova-compute-xen depends on xen-linux-system which does not exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873243 | 10:23 |
| livemoon | hi, | 10:25 |
| livemoon | "Error authenticating with keystone: Unhandled error" when I logon dashboard | 10:25 |
| livemoon | how to reslove it | 10:25 |
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| koolhead17 | hugokuo: hey | 10:30 |
| hugokuo | koolhead17 : yeh | 10:31 |
| koolhead17 | wassup? | 10:31 |
| siwos | hello | 10:32 |
| koolhead17 | guys am stuck in allocating floating IP range to a spcific project, i been manually adding it to DB earlier. :P | 10:33 |
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| koolhead17 | hi siwos | 10:34 |
| alexn65 | mb not bad idea to nova-mange sync db | 10:39 |
| alexn65 | and are you shure that you allocate them in right way (to DHCP, default route, project network etc - check also project and network tables) | 10:41 |
| alexn65 | Hi, anyone - is it possible to directly use vmdk or qcow, etc images for VMs? I still cannot get it | 10:42 |
| siwos | alexn65: you can easily convert them to nova-compatible form I guess | 10:45 |
| siwos | alexn65: check this out https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=51594 | 10:47 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: and what about cloud-init - is it necessary? | 10:50 |
| siwos | not really | 10:50 |
| siwos | I've got some centos images running without cloud-init | 10:50 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: thanks, I ask becouse of converting :) | 10:51 |
| alexn65 | ok | 10:51 |
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| alexn65 | swap patition also bad idea, right? even if it is only as image part but disabled? | 10:52 |
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| siwos | i don't know about swap | 10:53 |
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| ug | what is an availability zone ? | 10:54 |
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| alexn65 | ug: can think of it just as domain of your cluster, it means smth only if you have several installations of openstack in different (physical) regions. Just one "nova" commonly I suppose. See in case of AWS | 11:04 |
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| ug | alexn65: ok. How can I define an availability zone? | 11:07 |
| ug | Is it specific to project? | 11:07 |
| hugokuo | looking for Swift SAIO help , my proxy server did not send request to storage for creating ACCOUNT :< , I do enable allow_account_management & allow_autocreate | 11:09 |
| siwos | ug: a-z is not related to project | 11:11 |
| siwos | a-z is a single unit of failure | 11:11 |
| siwos | in cactus you run your cloud via nat. if nat breaks, then you loose access to all your vm-s | 11:12 |
| siwos | so - the network-controller providing nat and compute nodes hidden behind this nat, are a single unit of failure (availability zone) | 11:12 |
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| ug | siwos: nice explanation...that really helps. thanks to both of you | 11:15 |
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| siwos | you protect yourself from failures by placing vm-s in different availability zones (for example db master in one, slave in the other) | 11:15 |
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| alexn65 | I think he asks about what return euca-describe-availability-zones cmd :) | 11:17 |
| alexn65 | siwos: you good at swaut? | 11:18 |
| siwos | not really | 11:18 |
| siwos | not as good as on compute | 11:18 |
| siwos | ;-) | 11:18 |
| siwos | euca-describ-availability-zones returns you a list of availability zones (just as the name implies) ;-) | 11:19 |
| siwos | you can then use these availability zones in euca-run-instances | 11:19 |
| alexn65 | I need some API call from java to swauth - two variants for now - via http and via bash :) Think Http more flexible but cannot curl right URL https://127.0.0.1/auth/v1.0/account/user doesn`t go (swauth for cactus i.e 1.0 version) | 11:22 |
| alexn65 | to create user | 11:22 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: for compute - I need upload big image >20Gb to glance - do I know how to prepare it not using bundle-image, couse in that case there are would be two uploading operations(one for bucket and one for glance)? Any ideas | 11:29 |
| siwos | why do you think there would be 2 upload operations? | 11:30 |
| siwos | 20gig is a huge image | 11:30 |
| siwos | remember it will need to be cloned each time you launch an instance of it | 11:30 |
| siwos | you'd better have slimmer image and put your data on ebs | 11:30 |
| siwos | at least some of it | 11:31 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: I personally know it well, but users don`t - so I just have one very large image (to fit scalability though :) ) | 11:35 |
| siwos | alexn65: I'm scared ;-) | 11:36 |
| siwos | base ubuntu uec image counts in megabytes afaik ;-) | 11:36 |
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| alexn65 | I cannot find where I saw it today - but I really see reason why glance-upload script was written - if you bundle image than register - u can see that two times in /tmp occurs some tarring processes - one when bundling, than one when image status pending(and further) - glance itself download bucket, decode it and upload to glance container | 11:39 |
| alexn65 | I`m not scred right now couse it`s still not a project finish line, but will be worse | 11:39 |
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| siwos | yes - in /tmp the image is split into bunches | 11:40 |
| alexn65 | megabytes it`s really too small for them. but around 1Gb or half | 11:40 |
| alexn65 | try to see what happend when image in and after pending state | 11:42 |
| alexn65 | I saw that cause my server hangs a little in that moment, especially hangs euca-describe-images cmd | 11:43 |
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| alexn65 | and in log glance or nova-api says about decrypting | 11:44 |
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| tzn | livemoon: still problem with keystone/ | 11:44 |
| tzn | ? | 11:44 |
| siwos | alexn65: the image might be gzipped a lot | 11:46 |
| siwos | 20gb is the size of vmdk | 11:46 |
| siwos | so it won't necessarily be 20gb | 11:46 |
| tzn | siwos: unless is really 20g full of data | 11:46 |
| siwos | yep | 11:46 |
| alexn65 | glance understand zipped images? not glance reaaly,but nova after it | 11:47 |
| Vadim | hi guys | 11:47 |
| siwos | yep | 11:48 |
| siwos | when you create image with eucatools it gets gzipped | 11:48 |
| siwos | by default | 11:48 |
| alexn65 | heh :) I wonder if one can see df-like for swift and nova or so, just to understand space allocation | 11:49 |
| alexn65 | interesting idea, try now | 11:49 |
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| siwos | isn't that sparse qcow | 11:53 |
| siwos | which grows with your data | 11:53 |
| siwos | ? | 11:53 |
| alexn65 | qcow format can be used? | 11:53 |
| alexn65 | no it vmdk format, others from Vbox VMs | 11:54 |
| alexn65 | I`d like it if I can use this oportunity | 11:55 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: qcow or qcow2? | 11:57 |
| siwos | I don't remember | 12:00 |
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| alexn65 | found some mail listing where said about new cloud-utils package for Ubuntu that can understand qcow2, previuos use uec-publish and seemingly cannot use qcow2 (oneric image) | 12:03 |
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| Vadim | instance can ping internet resource without public ip? | 12:04 |
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| ogelbukh | if there is a NAT on default router, why not | 12:05 |
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| ogelbukh | it's not there by default, of course | 12:07 |
| alexn65 | Vadim: only if u set security rule for icmp and you not behind a firewall. Yes in case of FlatDhcp(and I don`t really know for Flat, but think also yes) | 12:10 |
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| zykes- | anyone here that works with crowbar ? | 12:12 |
| alexn65 | Vadim: mb you need --rounting_source_ip set for that | 12:12 |
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| alexn65 | sorry, routing. it`s a flag in nova.conf | 12:13 |
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| siwos | zykes-: me ;-) | 12:14 |
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| siwos | but with poor results now ;-) | 12:14 |
| siwos | trying to make install script working | 12:15 |
| zykes- | siwos: what distro did you build sledgehammer on ? | 12:18 |
| siwos | ubuntu 10.10 | 12:20 |
| siwos | and then also crowbar.iso | 12:20 |
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| siwos | then I followed install video from youtube | 12:20 |
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| siwos | but it's not as flawless as they show ;-) | 12:20 |
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| zykes- | crowbar.iso ? | 12:21 |
| Vadim | i have int 192.168.1.65 and br100 10.11.11.1 This host have access to internet. Instance have private ip 10.11.11.3. Packet from instance stuck at 10.11.11.1 | 12:21 |
| Vadim | this is security rule? | 12:21 |
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| siwos | yes - you can build your own | 12:22 |
| siwos | it's an ubuntu dvd iso | 12:22 |
| Vadim | default access deny? | 12:22 |
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| zykes- | siwos: which thing ? | 12:23 |
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| siwos | https://github.com/dellcloudedge/crowbar/wiki/Build-Crowbar.ISO/35b4ba92f3afc99c36ce0e8233da60297f5c1ab4 | 12:24 |
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| atkisc | hi,everybody | 12:26 |
| atkisc | noVNC also connect timeout | 12:26 |
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| alexn65 | Vadim: I mean "euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default" | 12:29 |
| zykes- | siwos: yeah | 12:33 |
| zykes- | i'm at the sledgehammer build atm | 12:33 |
| siwos | the build runs fine | 12:33 |
| siwos | but I 'm fighting with installation | 12:33 |
| zykes- | kk | 12:34 |
| zykes- | what os should one use for sledgehammer ? | 12:34 |
| siwos | I just used ubuntu | 12:34 |
| zykes- | ubuntu 10.04 or 11.04 ? | 12:34 |
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| siwos | i used natty | 12:35 |
| doude | Hi all, someone use Nova and Glance with keystone ? | 12:35 |
| livemoon | hi | 12:36 |
| livemoon | I have a bad day. | 12:37 |
| tzn | doude: me | 12:37 |
| livemoon | :( | 12:37 |
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| danielgebauer | hello ... i have a question about keystone, maybe someone has a quick answer for me ... | 12:40 |
| danielgebauer | is it possible to use keystone via the ec2 api? i read, that it is possible but could not find anything that explains it ... using the nova-api works fine | 12:41 |
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| livemoon | when 11.10 release? | 12:43 |
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| danielgebauer | 2011.3 on ubuntu 11.04 | 12:44 |
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| BasTichelaar | livemoon: today I heard | 12:59 |
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| livemoon | wait | 13:03 |
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| livemoon | I update the keystone and glance and dashboard.Now it dose not work | 13:22 |
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| alexn65 | siwos: here about uec/glance double upload http://dewey.ws/blog/2011/08/13/openstack-image-uploader/ | 13:44 |
| siwos | alexn65: gosh - that's great | 13:45 |
| siwos | the packaging process was always screwing me up ;-) | 13:45 |
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| alexn65 | it`s not me :) | 13:46 |
| alexn65 | yep | 13:46 |
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| siwos | thanks for sharing the link | 13:46 |
| alexn65 | finally I pack qcow with uec-bundle/register | 13:46 |
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| kbringard | alexn65: as it turns out, that "best pal Kevin" is me :-) | 13:47 |
| koolhead17 | cool | 13:47 |
| kbringard | I still need to get keystone integrated into ogler, but I need to get keystone working before I can do that :-D | 13:47 |
| livemoon | give keystone and dashboard | 13:49 |
| livemoon | I git fetch keystone and dashboard and glance, now it does not work | 13:50 |
| livemoon | 11.10 coming | 13:51 |
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| livemoon | hi,koolhead17 | 13:52 |
| koolhead17 | hello livemoon wassup? | 13:53 |
| troya | hi all | 13:53 |
| livemoon | I git fetch keystone and dashboard and glance, now it does not work | 13:53 |
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| livemoon | koolhead17 : Does nova,glance work fine in 11.10? | 13:54 |
| livemoon | I am downing 11.10. | 13:54 |
| troya | any one can help me, i want to install smokestack for web ui | 13:55 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: am not using keystone yet :( | 13:55 |
| livemoon | I ready to install on 11.10 and install keystone and dashboard on another server | 13:56 |
| livemoon | I am giving keystone in production | 13:56 |
| livemoon | I am giving up keystone in production | 13:57 |
| livemoon | I think it is not stable | 13:57 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: your far ahead from me. Am still on oldauth which does not use keystone :) | 13:57 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: great. | 13:57 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: i thought your using it | 13:57 |
| livemoon | but I will test keystone all the time in an alone server | 13:57 |
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| troya | hi,livemoon | 13:58 |
| livemoon | Now I am useing it. And early time today, I update keystone.now it cannot work. | 13:58 |
| livemoon | hi,troya | 13:58 |
| TestStack | hi | 13:58 |
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| TestStack | some one can help | 13:59 |
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| troya | i'm newbie in openstack, i have some problem, can you helpme ? i have installed nova successfully, then i running instance inside | 13:59 |
| livemoon | our boss order me to use cloud as soon as possible. So now I only think nova+glance is stable to me. | 13:59 |
| livemoon | troya: great | 14:00 |
| troya | then, why i can't access instance from other computer on same network ? | 14:00 |
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| troya | inside instance i have installed web server, but i can't access it | 14:00 |
| livemoon | you should do someting in security group | 14:01 |
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| troya | where i can get it ? | 14:02 |
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| troya | livemoon; what should i do to solve it ? | 14:03 |
| livemoon | euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default | 14:03 |
| livemoon | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default | 14:03 |
| livemoon | maybe you should do like it | 14:04 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: ya, thanks for scripting! but one one proposal about it | 14:04 |
| kbringard | alexn65: sure, only one? | 14:04 |
| kbringard | haha | 14:04 |
| troya | livemoon: i have doing it, i have allow port 80 | 14:05 |
| livemoon | koolhead17 : how do you install nova on 11.10? via apt-install or git ? | 14:05 |
| troya | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 80 default << this is my syntax | 14:05 |
| kbringard | troya: it's a good idea to allow ICMP so you can do basic network troubleshooting on the instance | 14:05 |
| kbringard | imo | 14:05 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: apt-get | 14:06 |
| troya | kbringard: i also use syntax >> have euca-authorize default -P icmp -t -1:-1 | 14:06 |
| livemoon | koolhead17 : which ppa? | 14:06 |
| kbringard | troya: ah, good good, can you ping the instance from your controller? | 14:06 |
| kbringard | via it's internal IP address? | 14:06 |
| kbringard | also, what network mode are you using? | 14:07 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: :) at least. It`s about packaging - siwos said that images can be in qcow format that first, and second can be gzipped as uec done - couse I upload very large img >20Gb and two times got error after long waiting - it would be great to reuse uec or cloud-init tools somehow | 14:07 |
| troya | on controller i can access instances via ssh | 14:07 |
| kbringard | alexn65: fair enough, that makes sense… the way I'd been using it was to download a uec image, unzip it and then just use ogler on the images that came out of the zipfile | 14:08 |
| kbringard | I can work on adding a new flag to tell it to use a uec zipfile | 14:08 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: you don`t need to add any PPA on oneiric :D | 14:08 |
| kbringard | so it'll extract the image and stuff itself | 14:08 |
| livemoon | troya : from another machine? | 14:08 |
| kbringard | do you have ip forwarding enabled on your network controller? | 14:09 |
| livemoon | troya : for example ,a server in the same network as your controller | 14:09 |
| kbringard | net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf | 14:09 |
| troya | kbringard: do you mean, i must copy zipfile of credential to other computer ? | 14:10 |
| kbringard | troya: not credentials… we're just trying to find out where the communication is breaking when attempting to talk to your VM | 14:10 |
| kbringard | you can get to it from the controller, so if we move away one hop, can you still get to it? | 14:11 |
| troya | livemoon: i can access only on controller, but on the other computer i can't , whereas client is on other computer | 14:11 |
| livemoon | which linux do you use? | 14:11 |
| livemoon | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/enabling-access-to-vms-on-the-compute-node.html | 14:12 |
| livemoon | # sysctl -a | 14:12 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: I think u don`t understand :) - I cannot use glance-upload for image larger than XGb - but uec can bundle it - gzip and split on chunks. It just do also crypt them - that not needed for glance | 14:12 |
| livemoon | I think linux iptables is hard to me. I only can use pf firewall. | 14:12 |
| kbringard | oh… really? | 14:12 |
| kbringard | how big is the image? | 14:13 |
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| kbringard | I've tested it with a 40GB image and it worked | 14:13 |
| alexn65 | 30gb fail for me | 14:13 |
| kbringard | odd | 14:13 |
| alexn65 | yep | 14:13 |
| troya | livemoon: i can access instances, both webserver (port 80) and ssh (port 22), but on other computer i can't | 14:13 |
| troya | livemoon: i can access instances on the controller, both webserver (port 80) and ssh (port 22), but on other computer i can't | 14:14 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: http://dewey.ws/blog/2011/08/13/openstack-image-uploader/ nice :) | 14:14 |
| kbringard | alexn65: I'll have to look into that… is there any error you're getting? | 14:14 |
| livemoon | troya， tell me your network arch | 14:14 |
| livemoon | troya: you can email to me if you have some question | 14:15 |
| troya | livemoon:what's your email address ? may be via email will be clerly | 14:15 |
| livemoon | koolhead17: what is that software? | 14:17 |
| kbringard | livemoon: it's a ruby script for uploading images directly into glance, setting meta-data, automatically linking kernels and ramdisks, etc | 14:18 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: image uploader on openstack :) | 14:18 |
| livemoon | why not use glance command directly? | 14:18 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: you ruby fanboi !! :D | 14:18 |
| kbringard | livemoon: you can if you want | 14:19 |
| kbringard | but ogler uses an external library called ogle | 14:19 |
| kbringard | so you don't have to have glance installed on the machine you're uploading from | 14:19 |
| kbringard | it sets all the headers and interacts with glance directly | 14:19 |
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| kbringard | plus, it links the kernel and the ramdisk automatically, so you have a default kernel and ramdisk when you go to launch it | 14:20 |
| livemoon | I see | 14:20 |
| kbringard | it's just an alternative way of doing it | 14:20 |
| kbringard | I personally find it easier, but as you like :-) | 14:21 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: off question - give some advice for API to use glance/nova/swift/swauth? is there any java libs don`t you know? | 14:21 |
| alexn65 | I like becouse of bash :))) | 14:21 |
| livemoon | can it upload img format image? | 14:21 |
| kbringard | alexn65: sorry, I don't… I actually wrote my own for Ruby (ogle) and hugs (the HTTP library wrapper) was written by dewey, the guy who wrote that blog | 14:22 |
| kbringard | alexn65: I wrote a bash script that's a wrapper around glance-upload | 14:22 |
| kbringard | https://github.com/kevinbringard/OpenStack-tools/blob/master/glance-uploader.bash | 14:22 |
| kbringard | if that's more useful | 14:22 |
| kbringard | it requires that you have glance installed on the machine you're uploading from | 14:23 |
| kbringard | but it does more or less the same thing | 14:23 |
| alexn65 | I do use this one :) not ruby | 14:23 |
| kbringard | like I said, it'd just a wrapper around glance-upload, which is itself just a wrapper around glance upload | 14:24 |
| kbringard | hehe | 14:24 |
| alexn65 | livemoon: It upload img, right. for glance you can upload anything - but make sure you can use them after | 14:24 |
| alexn65 | :) %) | 14:24 |
| kbringard | livemoon: yea, what alexn65 said. it just takes whatever datastream you give it and sends it to glance | 14:25 |
| livemoon | :) I am not skill in linux , so I don't know ami, aki | 14:25 |
| livemoon | I just know img,:) | 14:25 |
| kbringard | now, if anyone has keystone running, I'd love to talk to you about it :-D | 14:26 |
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| livemoon | early time I am running keystone | 14:26 |
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| livemoon | and now it does not work | 14:26 |
| kbringard | yea, I had it running a long time ago, too | 14:26 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: I can`t reproduce error just now and I`m using screen that clear history. So may be next days. As I remember it has strange errors like uploading kernel, initrd, than more than one file | 14:26 |
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| livemoon | why now it does not work? | 14:27 |
| kbringard | alexn65: weird. either way, if you are able to reproduce it, let me know | 14:27 |
| kbringard | I'll look into it as well | 14:27 |
| alexn65 | kbringard: heh :) when I was looking for netwok person here - no one came :) | 14:27 |
| alexn65 | ok | 14:27 |
| kbringard | livemoon: I have no idea… I didn't do a good job of documenting what I did | 14:28 |
| kbringard | :-D | 14:28 |
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| atx | anyone tried this command: "nova-manage user create john my-access-key a-super-secret-key". If I already have a ssh key, can I use that to create a user? | 14:28 |
| kbringard | atx: those aren't ssh keys, those are ec2 access and secret keys | 14:29 |
| kbringard | I personally just create the user and let it generate keys itself | 14:29 |
| atx | oh. ok. | 14:29 |
| atx | if I already have eucalyptus EC2 variable, novarc will overwrite those right? | 14:29 |
| atx | is there a way to use both? | 14:30 |
| kbringard | well, if you have ec2 keys from a eucalyptus install, then you could put those on the command line | 14:30 |
| kbringard | in place of my-access-key and a-super-secret-key | 14:30 |
| atx | ok. | 14:30 |
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| kbringard | that just lets you force the keys, instead of letting nova generate them | 14:30 |
| kbringard | then, you have to do euca-add-keypair to generate a new SSH key | 14:31 |
| kbringard | I think there is a mechanism to import existing keys, but honestly I have no idea what it is | 14:31 |
| atx | ok. that make sense. | 14:31 |
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| atx | but there's no way to use both eucalyptus zone and nova zone in the same session? | 14:32 |
| kbringard | probably not… but I don't know enough about zones to give you a good answer | 14:32 |
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| atx | One solution is to use nova client (https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient) instead of euca2ools. How do I get the NOVA_API_KEY? Looking at the doc here: https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient | 14:38 |
| livemoon | good night my friends | 14:38 |
| kbringard | adios livemoon | 14:38 |
| kbringard | atx: the nova api stuff gets generated when you create the user as well | 14:38 |
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| atx | ah. i see. | 14:38 |
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| kbringard | it'll be in the novarc | 14:39 |
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| doude | tzn: And that works ? | 14:40 |
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| atx | I am trying: nova add-keypairs key1 > private_key_file. It seems it is not supported: "nova: error: argument <subcommand>: invalid choice: 'add-keypairs'" | 14:44 |
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| atx | I am using: python-novaclient-2.4.1-4.el6.noarch | 14:45 |
| kbringard | atx: I don't use the openstack API much, sorry :-/ | 14:45 |
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| Razique | hey kbringard | 14:54 |
| Razique | hi all | 14:54 |
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| kbringard | hey Razique | 14:54 |
| Razique | I just tested the removal of a cable for a compute node with a running instance with it's nova-volume | 14:54 |
| Razique | guess what :D | 14:55 |
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| Razique | Oct 13 16:45:28 nova-cn1-pp iscsid: connection6:0 is operational after recovery (1 attempts) | 14:55 |
| Razique | o/ | 14:55 |
| catintheroof | Razique, so ? did it recover itself ? | 14:55 |
| catintheroof | Razique, diablo ? | 14:55 |
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| Razique | cactus :D | 14:55 |
| Razique | actually, it did | 14:56 |
| Razique | the instance had her I/O in wait mode | 14:56 |
| Razique | and the compute node detected and I/O errir | 14:56 |
| Razique | Oct 13 16:45:25 nova-cn1-pp kernel: [85412.201417] connection6:0: detected conn error (1011) | 14:56 |
| catintheroof | Razique, actually, wea re so happy in cactus ... | 14:56 |
| Razique | so do I | 14:56 |
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| clayg | Razique: but that's just openiscsi doing it's thing, not really nova? | 14:56 |
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| Razique | exactly | 14:56 |
| Razique | it's an iscsi mecanism | 14:57 |
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| Razique | the only thing I need to make sure is if that recovery mecanism has a timeout | 14:59 |
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| livemoon | hi | 15:02 |
| livemoon | is anyone here? | 15:02 |
| Razique | yup | 15:03 |
| livemoon | hi | 15:03 |
| livemoon | Razique: how to reboot vm use nova command? | 15:03 |
| kbringard | euca-reboot-instance | 15:03 |
| Razique | meanwhile I also retested the reboot of a comute node with running instances on it and nova-volume attached | 15:03 |
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| Razique | yup | 15:03 |
| Razique | euca-reboot-instance $instance_id | 15:03 |
| livemoon | i konw euca | 15:04 |
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| praefect | anybody here using openstack on CentOS or Scientific Linux using griddynamics.net packages? | 15:04 |
| livemoon | if nova-manage can do ? | 15:04 |
| Vadim | <Razique>i associate public ip address to instance... but when i ping or ssh to public ip he is unavailable | 15:04 |
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| livemoon | Vadim : it maybe some reason | 15:04 |
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| livemoon | kbringard, Razique : dose nova-manage or nava command can do reboot vm? | 15:06 |
| Razique | Vadim: what network mode is used ? | 15:06 |
| Vadim | FlatDHCP | 15:06 |
| Razique | livemoon: nope, I don't think so | 15:06 |
| livemoon | thanks | 15:07 |
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| Razique | livemoon: you could use that cli : https://github.com/rackspace/python-novaclient | 15:07 |
| Razique | it's an awesome one | 15:07 |
| Razique | reboot Reboot a server. | 15:07 |
| livemoon | :) | 15:08 |
| Razique | alias nova='nova --username "$ user " --apikey "$key" --projectid="$ project id" --url "http://172.16.40.11:8774/v1.0/"' | 15:08 |
| Razique | this alias will allow you to use cli easily :) | 15:09 |
| livemoon | cool | 15:09 |
| livemoon | but api 1.0 seems not supported ? | 15:09 |
| Razique | you find those credentials in your project's novarc file | 15:09 |
| Razique | which version of nova do you have ? | 15:09 |
| Razique | I run cactus, it implements both version 1.1 and 1.0 | 15:10 |
| livemoon | tomorrow I will install diablo on 11.10 | 15:10 |
| Razique | excellent ! Tell us how it went, always interesting | 15:10 |
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| livemoon | yes | 15:13 |
| livemoon | I will | 15:13 |
| livemoon | good night | 15:13 |
| Razique | good night dude! | 15:13 |
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| alexn65 | nice sunset today :) clear sky | 15:16 |
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| Razique | cold here | 15:20 |
| praefect | anyone experienced that: I launch an instance, ping it succesfully, let it ping for 20 minutes and suddenly it doesn't ping anymore (windows or linux doesn't matter), I end up getting network is unreachable | 15:20 |
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| Razique | praefect: mmm no, does the ping to the cloud-controller server works ? | 15:21 |
| FabriceB | praefect: arp pb ? | 15:22 |
| praefect | yes the cloud controller remains up with public IPs attached to its interface... it seems like it keeps happening so I will try to see what goes on... | 15:22 |
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| FabriceB | the arp is learnned when the machine starts and sends an gratitious arp | 15:23 |
| alexn65 | how much patience you have :) | 15:23 |
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| praefect | FabriceB: I'm using a second interface as the flat_interface, no ip just used as a phy for the bridge... if it helps | 15:24 |
| Razique | FabriceB: how could it be an ARP issue ? | 15:24 |
| FabriceB | you're doing ping, so you're doing IP | 15:24 |
| FabriceB | the arp layer is the mapping between mac address and ip address | 15:25 |
| praefect | alexn65: I've been working on openstack for a 1 month now (new job), it takes patience... on CentOS at least it really does | 15:25 |
| FabriceB | and an arp cache has a ttl about 20 minutes | 15:25 |
| praefect | oooooooh I like that FabriceB! | 15:25 |
| Razique | maybe from the instance you could run an arpping ? | 15:25 |
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| Razique | to the gateway for instance | 15:26 |
| praefect | I run arp and it seems to output all known arp, so I'll save that and compare it later | 15:26 |
| Razique | if we suppose the messy arpcache is that one | 15:26 |
| Razique | mmm FabriceB there is something I don't get :D | 15:27 |
| FabriceB | yes ? | 15:28 |
| Razique | actually nova-networks runs iptables rules while it holds all the "public ips" | 15:28 |
| Razique | so the aro address don't change on the instance, and the outside network only sees ARP address from the cloud controller | 15:28 |
| FabriceB | not on flat interfaces | 15:29 |
| FabriceB | it's a bridget network | 15:29 |
| Razique | ohhh yes, you are right | 15:29 |
| Razique | my bad | 15:29 |
| Razique | ok so from the instance, you could run this arping -c 1 -S $public_ip $gateway | 15:30 |
| Razique | for instance arping -c 1 -S 10.10.1.2 10.10.1.1 | 15:30 |
| praefect | I'm lost in all this network stuff, damn there is a lot going on! For example I am still forced to use an unconfigured if (eth1) to bridge and I don't know why I can't get it to work with a single if, do you guys have compute-nodes with single NIC? | 15:30 |
| Razique | that force the equipment tp update it's arp table if you don't have control over it and don't want to wait for it's renewal | 15:30 |
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| Razique | praefect: I do, but in vlan mode | 15:32 |
| Razique | the interface is not configured as bridged | 15:33 |
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| praefect | Razique: I see, but is it supposed to be doable (flatDHCP with single NIC everywhere)? | 15:33 |
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| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2701/ | 15:35 |
| Razique | single nic, yes, unbrdiged, nope | 15:35 |
| Razique | unbridged* | 15:35 |
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| praefect | Razique: I'm not sure I'm following, if I want to use a bunch of single-NIC servers as compute nodes in FlatDHCP, is it doable? and do I need to bridge br100 with a dummy IF or what? | 15:37 |
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| Razique | praefect: you could totally have in FlatDHCP your compute-nodes, but you'll need to bridge your inferface on every node | 15:38 |
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| praefect | Razique: so basically the eth0 of every node will be bridged to br100 and also serve as the main if for all communication? | 15:39 |
| Razique | praefect: exactly | 15:40 |
| Razique | while the server which runs nova-network will act as a gateway | 15:40 |
| Razique | bridge means the compute-node becomes transparent, and let pass every packet, even if they are not destinated to it | 15:41 |
| Razique | that's why a bridge is necessary in a flatDHCP mode | 15:41 |
| Razique | but, as FabriceB said, you could then encounter arp issues | 15:41 |
| Vadim | <Razique> i associate public ip with instance. arp i the some... like arp with cloug conttroller ip... but i cant ping this public ip... for default can i ping this piblic ip or i must create some rule in iptable i am sure that problem in iptables ( | 15:41 |
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| Razique | Vadim: you also use flatdhcp ? | 15:42 |
| Vadim | yeap | 15:42 |
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| Razique | coud you paste your nova.conf filE ? | 15:45 |
| Vadim | http://pastie.org/2688637 | 15:45 |
| Vadim | when my instance without public ip he can ping internet | 15:46 |
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| Vadim | when i associate public ip... instance can ping only cloud GW | 15:46 |
| Vadim | all in one innstalation | 15:46 |
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| kbringard | Vadim: make sure you have —fixed_range set | 15:46 |
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| kbringard | with the appropriate CIDR | 15:47 |
| Vadim | --fixed_range_v4=10.11.8.0/22 | 15:47 |
| Vadim | i have | 15:47 |
| kbringard | that's what sets the SNAT rule for Vms without floaters | 15:47 |
| kbringard | I think it's just fixed_range now | 15:47 |
| Vadim | in nova i create network 10.11.11.0/24 | 15:47 |
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| Vadim | http://pastie.org/2688610 - iptables | 15:48 |
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| Vadim | sorry | 15:49 |
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| Vadim | old iptables | 15:49 |
| Vadim | i update | 15:49 |
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| Vadim | http://pastie.org/2688610 | 15:49 |
| Vadim | SNAT all -- 10.11.11.3 anywhere to:192.168.0.184 | 15:49 |
| Vadim | 192.168.0.184 - public ip | 15:50 |
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| kbringard | yea, that gets set when you assign the floating IP | 15:51 |
| kbringard | which is why it starts working | 15:51 |
| kbringard | I think the issue is that you need to use fixed_range (not fixed_range_ip4) | 15:52 |
| kbringard | I had this exact problem and setting fixed_range fixed it for me | 15:52 |
| Vadim | ok thx... i try | 15:52 |
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| Vadim | but at this moment need go home ) | 15:52 |
| Vadim | bye all | 15:52 |
| kbringard | adios | 15:52 |
| kbringard | good luck | 15:52 |
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| Razique | bye :) | 15:54 |
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| kylen_ | hi all | 15:59 |
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| kylen_ | Język oryginału: polski | 16:00 |
| kylen_ | Wpisz tekst lub adres witryny albo przetłumacz dokument. | 16:00 |
| kylen_ | Anuluj | 16:00 |
| kylen_ | Tłumaczenie (polski > angielski) | 16:00 |
| kylen_ | polski | 16:00 |
| kylen_ | angielski | 16:00 |
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| ky7en | hi | 16:01 |
| ky7en | does it make sens to go from XEN to kvm ? | 16:01 |
| ky7en | server is the database | 16:01 |
| ky7en | about 1GB firebird | 16:02 |
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| ky7en | have any expreience you had with this ? | 16:02 |
| catintheroof | ky7en, what is the question ? | 16:02 |
| ky7en | at this time i have firebird database ( about 1GB ) but performance is lazy | 16:03 |
| ky7en | my friend tell me about KVM | 16:03 |
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| ky7en | kvm will be better for database? | 16:04 |
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| ky7en | hardware configuration is the same | 16:04 |
| FabriceB | performance is lazy : what performance ? | 16:04 |
| FabriceB | IO ? memory ? CPU ? | 16:04 |
| catintheroof | ky7en, hmmm, we use, REDIS, MONGO, MYSQL for database under KVM, and everything is working just fine | 16:04 |
| FabriceB | did you try to tune your database ? | 16:04 |
| ky7en | I/O | 16:04 |
| FabriceB | did you try virtio ? | 16:05 |
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| LeanReox | ky7en what network interface dirver are you user ? | 16:05 |
| LeanReox | try virtio | 16:05 |
| LeanReox | performance sucks over another network card driver | 16:05 |
| LeanReox | and sucks hard | 16:05 |
| FabriceB | are you talking about network IO or disk IO ? | 16:06 |
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| FabriceB | do you think your IO performance are far from what you could expect from a real server ? | 16:07 |
| ky7en | FabriceB: no, firebird doesn`t have many option, sysctl is standard from CERN Linux 6.1 | 16:07 |
| ky7en | I/O disk | 16:07 |
| FabriceB | a data base without tunning ? | 16:08 |
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| ky7en | LeanReox: | 16:09 |
| ky7en | [root@VMS ~]# lspci -v | grep Ether | 16:09 |
| ky7en | 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82578DM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 05) | 16:09 |
| ky7en | 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection | 16:09 |
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| ky7en | LeanReox: use bridge | 16:10 |
| Razique | time to leave | 16:10 |
| Razique | cya guys :) | 16:10 |
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| ky7en | FabriceB: on non-virt OS it is better | 16:11 |
| ky7en | FabriceB: firebird engine doesn`t have many option to tunning... | 16:11 |
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| Kiall | Heya, trying to change the nova zone name from "nova" to something else, but nothing seems to actually cause it to change! I've set zone_name, node_availability_zone and storage_availability_zone in nova.conf + restarted everything, have I missed a step? | 16:12 |
| ky7en | FabriceB: database have only 1GB, standard conf i enought to efficiently work | 16:12 |
| ky7en | becouse in non-virt better abour ~30% on generating summary on | 16:13 |
| ky7en | sorry about my EN :/ | 16:13 |
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| kbringard | does anyone have keystone working? | 16:14 |
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| ky7en | Openstack is a only WWW-panel to easy administrate vm systems ? | 16:14 |
| kbringard | I'm just going to keep asking until someone answers ;-) | 16:15 |
| Kiall | kbringard: someone does ;) not me .. ubuntu seem to have crippled keystone support in their oneiric packages ;) | 16:15 |
| kbringard | hmmm, nyes | 16:15 |
| rmk | I do obviously. :) | 16:15 |
| rnirmal | kbringard: diablo or trunk? | 16:16 |
| kbringard | uhm, either? :-) | 16:16 |
| rnirmal | Diablo works on Natty | 16:16 |
| rnirmal | just that they've changed the body of the auth call... and python-novaclient or glance didn't have that update | 16:17 |
| rnirmal | Diablo/Keystone Diablo | 16:17 |
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| Kiall | so, anyone know how to change the nova zone name? | 16:20 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #834013 in quantum "API: create operations should return 202" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/834013 | 16:23 |
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| alexn65 | Kiall: nonauthoritative answer that it is smth hardcoded - needed once and never changed in current release. try to see in openstack docs | 16:36 |
| Kiall | Ah .. fair enough, if its hardcoded its hardcoded :) | 16:36 |
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| alexn65 | but still look in docs :) | 16:38 |
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| Kiall | alexn65: I have, and havent see anything other than the 3x flags I've already set.. | 16:41 |
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| alexn65 | kbringard: I tell you about error in glance-upload script, but looks like uec-register also can not get things done (almost long time already status is uploading). I use for this qcow img format and don`t know will it work. If you know how to check it in process, say please. | 16:41 |
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| alexn65 | Kiall: I`m not an expert in this :) What can say that in mysql table for nova in zones there is nothing (cactus. without any flags). And in docs I saw kinda a remark of that it is only single zone possible yet, so like it is fixed, mb I`m mistaken. If you want - dig log and python modules that called | 16:49 |
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| Kiall | alexn65: the diablo "services" table has an `availability_zone` column that contains "nova" | 16:52 |
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| Kiall | `nova zone-info` outputs name=dub01, but the DB has "nova" as the zone.. | 16:52 |
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| Kiall | and `euca-describe-availability-zones verbose` says the zone is `nova` | 16:53 |
| Kiall | so .. I do think its supported in diablo .. I just cant figure out how to make it (fully) work | 16:53 |
| alexn65 | you restart nova services? | 16:54 |
| Kiall | of course :) | 16:54 |
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| Kiall | and deleted the services table entries, only for them to be recreated with `nova` again | 16:54 |
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| alexn65 | nice :)) | 16:56 |
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| corninacan | anyone here use use stackops? | 16:56 |
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| crussell | Ack, guys, any quick clues. Instance started up..ip assigned, i can ping the ip but i can't ssh to it | 16:58 |
| kbringard | do you have port 22 allowed in your authorized rules? | 16:59 |
| crussell | i added the IP tables rule.. which is got it working yesterday | 16:59 |
| kbringard | euca-authorize -P tcp -p 22 default | 16:59 |
| crussell | however, in looking around my lo doesn't have a pipa like 169 for the rule to work right | 16:59 |
| crussell | The authorize has been done | 16:59 |
| kbringard | oh, so you think you're having meta-data issues which is causing cloud-init to hang and never bring up the ssh daemon | 17:00 |
| crussell | Speaking of this command | 17:00 |
| crussell | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.16.20.111:8773 | 17:00 |
| crussell | I don't see 169.254.169.254 on my LO - which i think needs to be there for that to work. | 17:00 |
| kbringard | does ecua-get-console-output for that instance show you anything? | 17:00 |
| crussell | kbringard: not sure mate.. just looking for anything off the top of your head | 17:00 |
| crussell | standby | 17:00 |
| alexn65 | see log for libvirt or in /var/lib/nova/instance-NNNN/console.log | 17:01 |
| alexn65 | on host that running you VM today | 17:02 |
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| crussell | LOG: http://pastebin.com/t6DD2Tg0 | 17:02 |
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| crussell | seems i am on the right track | 17:02 |
| crussell | it's complaining about some metadata and referencing that 169 addy | 17:02 |
| alexn65 | yep. and sometimes you`ld learn how to cook it ;) | 17:04 |
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| Kiall | crussell: is nova-network on the same server as nova-compute? | 17:04 |
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| kbringard | crussell: yea, that means that the VM can't talk to the meta-data server… since cloud-init connects to it to pull the ssh keys that's causing the boot process to hang | 17:04 |
| crussell | yES | 17:04 |
| kbringard | which is why you can boot it but not ssh to it | 17:05 |
| kbringard | err, ping it | 17:05 |
| Kiall | and yes, 169.254.169.254/32 should be be listed with `ip addr show` on lo | 17:05 |
| crussell | Kiall: Yes, the same | 17:05 |
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| crussell | I also see this in the tail of the instance log | 17:05 |
| crussell | failed to find romfile "pxe-rt18139.bin" | 17:05 |
| jrojas | is there any way to configure openstack to NOT route traffic through one node? | 17:06 |
| Kiall | I havent noticed that one myself, but if the nova-network node doesnt have 169.254.169.254/32 on lo, thats the first problem to fix | 17:06 |
| crussell | jrojas - i believe a flat network will be able to do this for you | 17:06 |
| jrojas | crussell: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/outbound-traffic-flow-with-any-flat-networking.html that kind of says otherwise | 17:06 |
| crussell | Kiall: Can i just assign it? | 17:06 |
| Kiall | crussell: it was auto added for me, I would assume something else if wrong if its not being added for you.. | 17:07 |
| Kiall | but I'm new with openstack, so it could be a different network setup | 17:07 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873484 in openstack-dashboard "Dashboard install fails for diablo on Ubuntu 11.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873484 | 17:07 |
| Kiall | I'm using the VLAN networking | 17:07 |
| crussell | jrojas - forwarding is not routing | 17:07 |
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| alexn65 | Kiall: think I haven`t metaIP on LO and things work -just iptable rule | 17:09 |
| Kiall | alexn65: are you using stock ubuntu images? (other images might boot fine without that IP) | 17:09 |
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| Kiall | Its the cloud-init package which insists on access to the MD service causing the instance not to boot fully | 17:10 |
| jrojas | crussell: so my assumption is, if i configure via flat network, all the VMs running on a sincle cmopute node will act as normal and all their traffic will flow in and out of that single box and not the controller node? | 17:11 |
| alexn65 | Kiall: sorry - just ifconfig doesn`t list it, ip addr list | 17:11 |
| Kiall | yea .. ifconfig rarely shows everything :) | 17:11 |
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| alexn65 | crussell: netstat -pan|grep 8773 ? | 17:14 |
| crussell | alexn65: http://pastebin.com/wc3Z9KxY | 17:15 |
| alexn65 | heh :) I has only one process on this port | 17:15 |
| crussell | jrojas: I'm a new also... however in working with virtualization quiet a bit for years.. Yes | 17:16 |
| crussell | alexb65: i believe it's because of the retry | 17:16 |
| crussell | jrosjas: it's effectively a bridge for every vm that it travelling within that compute node. | 17:16 |
| crussell | jrosjas: being new and all myself.... flat is definately the easiet way to get it up and working but it's suited for production. | 17:17 |
| WormMan | based on that netstat, it looks like packets aren't getting back to the VM | 17:17 |
| alexn65 | crussell: mb you restart it somehow? with nova-api for example | 17:17 |
| jrojas | crussell: unless you are trying to get it running on centos :) | 17:17 |
| crussell | WormMan: I"m missing the 169.254.169.254/32 address on my LO | 17:17 |
| crussell | WormMan: and i'm not sure why | 17:18 |
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| WormMan | well, you can always add it by hand | 17:18 |
| WormMan | not sure if it will matter | 17:18 |
| alexn65 | WormMan: that`s only iptables rule :) | 17:19 |
| WormMan | ? | 17:19 |
| alexn65 | crussell: you also can look at iptables-save | 17:19 |
| WormMan | ip addr add (mumble mumble mumble) | 17:19 |
| alexn65 | no! hands away :) | 17:20 |
| crussell | ha | 17:20 |
| alexn65 | it`s not supposed to be real ip interface | 17:20 |
| crussell | alexn65: i assume it just must exists to answer for iptables. | 17:20 |
| crussell | restart api and stuff.. | 17:20 |
| WormMan | don't worry, it all works much better when you switch to multi-host and have to run a proxy on every node to forward to the API server :) | 17:20 |
| crussell | i intend on doing that.. | 17:21 |
| crussell | it easier just to setup it up that way? | 17:21 |
| WormMan | hahahahahahah | 17:21 |
| alexn65 | better or complex :) | 17:21 |
| crussell | predictable | 17:21 |
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| crussell | i like option c | 17:21 |
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| alexn65 | crussell: show please iptables-save output | 17:22 |
| WormMan | I'm on cloud number 3.5 and I think I finally understand the network | 17:22 |
| alexn65 | :)))) | 17:22 |
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| crussell | i'm a nub - just two weeks into this.. i've had it working once in a single stack.. and decided to do it over again | 17:22 |
| alexn65 | WormMan: do you know tap iface for kvm? | 17:22 |
| WormMan | alexn: luckily, no | 17:22 |
| alexn65 | really luckily :) | 17:23 |
| crussell | alexn65: http://pastebin.com/DFXNashn | 17:24 |
| WormMan | I'd like to get approval from our management to post our network config, with a cover sheet of 'Here there be dragons." | 17:24 |
| WormMan | crussell: and the local node is 10.0.3.50? | 17:24 |
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| crussell | yes | 17:25 |
| crussell | that is the private side | 17:25 |
| crussell | 10.0.64.0/20 is the public | 17:25 |
| WormMan | and the local node(physical) can ping the VM? | 17:25 |
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| crussell | yes | 17:25 |
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| crussell | from the compute node i am able to ping | 17:25 |
| WormMan | and ip_forward is enabled in sysctl? | 17:26 |
| WormMan | (I'm sure you've gone over this all before) | 17:26 |
| crussell | yes, it's been done i will double check that i uncommented it - point of fact, the last time i got this stack up and running it was absent that and it worked | 17:26 |
| crussell | WormMan: treat me as a newb, i'm ok with that i just want to learn this and get it working | 17:27 |
| crussell | yes, net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 is uncommented | 17:28 |
| crussell | and system was rebooted after the change | 17:28 |
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| WormMan | it looks fine, but that's not helpful, obviously | 17:29 |
| crussell | ;) | 17:30 |
| alexn65 | very interesting what it is | 17:30 |
| WormMan | usually, I start resorting to tcpdump on various interfaces trying to track where the packet ends up missing | 17:30 |
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| crussell | going to tear instance down and stand back up and watch a tcpdump | grep 10.0.0.5 | 17:31 |
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| WormMan | just to tcpdump host 10.0.0.5 less cpu load :) | 17:31 |
| crussell | ok ty | 17:31 |
| crussell | standyby for paste | 17:31 |
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| alexn65 | just wonder why do you set up 10.0.3.5 for your main node | 17:33 |
| crussell | i can answer that... | 17:33 |
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| crussell | I was too lazy to break out some "production" things in the blade chassis | 17:33 |
| alexn65 | tcpdump|grep .... it`s amazing :))) | 17:33 |
| crussell | that subnet is a 10.0.0.0/20 | 17:33 |
| alexn65 | then your nodes in that subnet now | 17:34 |
| crussell | yes, thay are being placed in that range | 17:34 |
| crussell | and the virtuals instances are also pingable from other machines, which means forwwarding working | 17:35 |
| alexn65 | sorry :) not - why not just 10.0.0.1 I mean | 17:35 |
| crussell | it's just like ssh isn't being tuurned on | 17:35 |
| crussell | Oh.. 10.0.0.1 is my firewall | 17:35 |
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| WormMan | the console log will show it continuing to run the meta-data service until it succeeds, once it finally works you'll get ssh :) | 17:36 |
| alexn65 | sorry again.. you`ve already say almost everything about your net | 17:36 |
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| WormMan | /var/lib/nova/instance/*/console.log | 17:36 |
| WormMan | or the euca command | 17:36 |
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| crussell | damnit... these instances won't terminate... | 17:36 |
| alexn65 | yep, mb just in the beginning smth interestig | 17:37 |
| alexn65 | cool | 17:37 |
| crussell | i will only assume this is probably another systemic problem becuase it couldn't provision the network, it can't terminate it | 17:37 |
| alexn65 | never hear anything like that :) | 17:38 |
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| crussell | hmm going to take easy way out and assign this 169 ip | 17:39 |
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| alexn65 | better check route (not post it) | 17:39 |
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| crussell | I know my routing is right | 17:41 |
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| crussell | my whole network would be on it's knees if it wasn't | 17:41 |
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| crussell | the only possibilty could be that i don't put a default gateway on br100 | 17:41 |
| crussell | and instead add one specific route for the subnet to the router | 17:42 |
| WormMan | jusr wait until you move to split horizon routing :) | 17:42 |
| alexn65 | last is unlikely | 17:42 |
| WormMan | oh, I remember some glitch like that with routing for the meta-data service | 17:42 |
| WormMan | it may have just been an unallocated 169.254.169.254 ip | 17:43 |
| crussell | https://answers.launchpad.net/nova/+question/145062 | 17:45 |
| crussell | This is exactly what's going on : don't understand the last posters fix though and why it worked | 17:45 |
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| kbringard | what do you have set for your flat_interface and public_interface? | 17:47 |
| kbringard | in your nova.conf | 17:47 |
| crussell | i have --public_interface=eth2 ( my 10.0.64.x) | 17:48 |
| crussell | and my nova.conf is absent --flat_interface | 17:48 |
| kbringard | sorry, I may have missed this earlier, what network mode are you using ? | 17:48 |
| crussell | FlatManager | 17:49 |
| kbringard | oooo, OK, why not FlatDHCP? | 17:49 |
| crussell | no, i have a dhcp server on this network and can't risk it.. | 17:49 |
| kbringard | ah, OK | 17:49 |
| crussell | well ( i suppose i could cut it off ) i really don't need it | 17:49 |
| crussell | i just have it to aid in server provisioning. | 17:49 |
| kbringard | sorry, you may have already been over this… have you created the IPtables forwarding rule for the 169 address manually? | 17:50 |
| crussell | I see that FlatDhcp adds all the iptables stuff for you | 17:50 |
| kbringard | yea, that's why I was asking | 17:50 |
| crussell | kbringard: yes but check this | 17:50 |
| WormMan | (so, did you add the 169.254.169.254 address?) | 17:50 |
| kbringard | I've never used Flat manager and I have limited experience with FlatDHCP, so I'm not 100% sure what rules need to be added | 17:50 |
| crussell | 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN | 17:51 |
| crussell | nm | 17:51 |
| alexn65 | you see that in iptables-save log | 17:51 |
| crussell | the lo - is missing the 169.254.169.254 address | 17:51 |
| crussell | which i think is the root of all my problems | 17:51 |
| WormMan | crussell: I believe Flat won't do anything, so you need to add that by hand | 17:51 |
| alexn65 | ip addr|grep 169.254 missing? | 17:51 |
| crussell | yes, missing! =/ | 17:52 |
| crussell | and i didn't have to add it last time i made this work... | 17:52 |
| crussell | so i'm curious why now | 17:52 |
| WormMan | just add it and see if it helps :) | 17:52 |
| WormMan | maybe it won't | 17:52 |
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| crussell | how should i add it - sudo ip addr add 169.254.169.254/32 scope link dev lo? | 17:53 |
| crussell | can't assign requested address =/ | 17:54 |
| alexn65 | WormMan: it`s not a real iface - it`s just a rule in iptables. That was added already. I can`t say what would be when adding a "real" iface | 17:54 |
| alexn65 | on loopback | 17:55 |
| Kiall | humm .. how does one add a user to an exisiting project? | 17:55 |
| crussell | so adding that rule to iptables should have done it | 17:55 |
| Kiall | I keep getting $user not a member of $project .. ? | 17:55 |
| WormMan | alexn65: I found some interesting stuff in the Linux Kernel with reverse path checking in the routing code | 17:55 |
| Kiall | ah - nevermind.. writing it out make me think about it ;) | 17:56 |
| WormMan | crussell: hm, I just added it on a box here with that command line | 17:56 |
| alexn65 | mb /etc/init.d/iptables restart? likely not but why not :) | 17:56 |
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| alexn65 | WormMan: what do u mean? | 17:56 |
| WormMan | I'd recommend not restarting iptables, nova-network adds rules that the restart won't re-add | 17:57 |
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| WormMan | alexn65: the kernel won't send packets out when it can't determine how it got it, you do ip route get and it will just fail | 17:57 |
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| alexn65 | :) but you advice to config LO with another address - wonderful opposition | 17:58 |
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| WormMan | but I don't know if the IP on lo will solve that | 17:58 |
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| WormMan | I remember I had to do something 'bad' | 17:58 |
| alexn65 | :))) | 17:58 |
| WormMan | but that cloud was wiped a couple nonths ago | 17:58 |
| crussell | i added it... | 17:58 |
| crussell | let me restart some services. | 17:59 |
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| crussell | ahhh... tcpdump shows something now | 17:59 |
| crussell | it's responding dwith a mac | 17:59 |
| crussell | soon as i added it | 17:59 |
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| WormMan | oh, yea, not reverse path, never mind :) | 17:59 |
| alexn65 | can`t believe it... | 18:00 |
| crussell | still can't ssh... | 18:00 |
| crussell | standby - throwing up another instance.. so it can run through the process | 18:00 |
| kbringard | yea, once the cloud-init stuff times out you're kinda boned | 18:01 |
| WormMan | check the console.log and see what it's saying :) | 18:01 |
| alexn65 | or just netstat -pan|grep 8773 :) | 18:01 |
| crussell | ALEXN65: http://pastebin.com/yqnvEYBE | 18:02 |
| crussell | brb - 5 min | 18:02 |
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| WormMan | that one looks perfect :) | 18:02 |
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| WormMan | except the IPs are a little odd :) | 18:03 |
| alexn65 | it's his main local IP | 18:04 |
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| WormMan | yes, but it's also the source IP for the requests | 18:06 |
| WormMan | probably double nat | 18:06 |
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| alexn65 | no - this is correct. check yours | 18:08 |
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| alexn65 | this is how iptables filter works. I don`t really know how goes answers | 18:10 |
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| alexn65 | if all correct internal net IP 10.0.0.3 asks for meta via 10.0.3.5 and that service on 8773 answer to 10.0.0.3 directly. if can ping it then it can reach them | 18:13 |
| crussell | ok back | 18:15 |
| crussell | well.. i can't tell if it's going to work now... my run instance for new image just sitting in pending... | 18:15 |
| crussell | sigh | 18:15 |
| crussell | i boggered something up | 18:15 |
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| crussell | btw, my netstat just shows 3 lines now...as you expected | 18:17 |
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| alexn65 | and? | 18:21 |
| crussell | standby - i'm killing some things, and retrying | 18:21 |
| crussell | have an answer here in a couple | 18:21 |
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| crussell | well.. the results of the changes. | 18:21 |
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| alexn65 | be peacefull and kind - stop killing! :) | 18:22 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: hey there | 18:26 |
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| praefect | I'm having trouble understanding vnc-proxy... in my setup only the controller has a public IP that I can reach from my browser, is there where I install the vnc-proxy? cause right now if I hit this controller on port 6080 I've got an error from python (can'T find ':' in url) | 18:29 |
| praefect | the controller does not run nova-compute btw | 18:29 |
| praefect | any help appreciated, I've read the doc many times but can't make sense out of it | 18:30 |
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| boostrap | Hi All | 18:36 |
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| boostrap | Can I ask anybody for the implementation of openstacks? | 18:40 |
| boostrap | openstack* | 18:40 |
| koolhead17 | boostrap: don`t ask just ask!! :D | 18:40 |
| ashp | So before I go ahead and install RHEL6 for running openstack | 18:40 |
| boostrap | ok thanks | 18:40 |
| ashp | are there any gotchas anyone knows about compared to just using ubtuntu? | 18:40 |
| boostrap | I wonder what is the minimum requirement for openstack... ubuntu cloud server have their own in their wiki page. | 18:41 |
| boostrap | I want to use minimum requirement to be used for my thesis | 18:42 |
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| TheOsprey | ashp, are you planning to use iscsi as storage? | 18:43 |
| TheOsprey | ashp, openstack currently does not support the iscsi layer shipped with RHEL | 18:44 |
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| ashp | TheOsprey: I wasn't planning on iscsi right now | 18:44 |
| ashp | TheOsprey: just local storage or nfs | 18:44 |
| Kiall | boostrap: you can get OpenStack running on a single server, so .. i'd say a *bare min* is about 2G ram and a VT enabled dual core processor.. | 18:44 |
| TheOsprey | ok, in that case both distros will just work | 18:44 |
| Kiall | you wont get many instances running on that .. | 18:45 |
| Kiall | but it'll work | 18:45 |
| ashp | perfect, I'm going to stick with RHEL6 even if it's less documented just as it's what we use for everything else | 18:45 |
| ashp | I want to, eventually, build out my nodes in puppet so it makes sense to keep it integrated with what we have | 18:45 |
| TheOsprey | ashp, I fear that an approach based on nfs could pop up some limits if you plan to grow the infrastructure | 18:46 |
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| TheOsprey | but I never tried to set up openstack using nfs | 18:46 |
| TheOsprey | so I'm just wondering | 18:46 |
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| ashp | TheOsprey: Yeah, I haven't worked out how I'm going to do all sorts of stuff yet. | 18:50 |
| ashp | TheOsprey: I'm just setting up two boxes for now, I eventually want servers in every datacenter and who knows what. | 18:50 |
| ashp | I figure I don't need too much shared storage as I can use the storage component and local disks to do some of this stuff, right? | 18:51 |
| WormMan | Step 1: Build Cloud, Step 2: ?, Step 3: Profit | 18:52 |
| ashp | Sadly that's about the stage we are in | 18:54 |
| ashp | we were told to start building everything in AWS | 18:54 |
| ashp | and this is my only real attempt to fight back | 18:54 |
| ashp | also today someone terminated all 17 instances I had in AWS so i lost everything | 18:54 |
| ashp | a fun day | 18:54 |
| g2 | Hello all: I need some help in debugging some nova/kvm issue. | 18:55 |
| g2 | I am not able to run any more instances on my Openstack compute node | 18:56 |
| g2 | When I run the | 18:56 |
| g2 | the euca-run-instance command, the new instance goes from scheduling-->networking-->shutdown | 18:56 |
| g2 | I don't see any console logs under /var/run/nova/instances, nor are there any kvm process for this instance | 18:57 |
| g2 | its like kvm is not even getting the command to start the instance. any pointers??? | 18:57 |
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| Kiall | g2: have you checked the openstack logs under /var/lib/nova ? | 19:03 |
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| g2 | Kiall: Yes, there is nothing in the logs that looks suspicious | 19:04 |
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| Kiall | g2: strange, there has to be *something* in there if it goes to the shutdown state | 19:05 |
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| g2 | Kiall: I see messages like the following in nova-compute.log | 19:07 |
| Kiall | pastebin! | 19:07 |
| Kiall | (preempting a flood of logs) | 19:07 |
| g2 | Its' just 10 lines of relevant log | 19:08 |
| g2 | do you want me to post them here? | 19:08 |
| Kiall | thats 9 lines too many to paste into any IRC channel ;) | 19:08 |
| Kiall | http://paste.openstack.org/ | 19:08 |
| kbringard | hey koolhead17, sorry, was at lunch | 19:10 |
| crussell | so.. | 19:10 |
| g2 | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2711/ | 19:10 |
| crussell | i've been thinking. | 19:10 |
| crussell | dude... | 19:10 |
| crussell | a route... ( i know it's been said ) | 19:11 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: np. i inspected a bit more on rbac | 19:11 |
| Kiall | g2: can you paste like .. 100 or so lines from above that? | 19:12 |
| Kiall | (context helps ;)) | 19:12 |
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| g2 | Kiall: Check the page again (http://paste.openstack.org/show/2712/). I posted some more lines | 19:17 |
| g2 | These are all the lines in the log from the point that I run the "euca-run-instance" command | 19:18 |
| Kiall | okay, and anything in nova-network.log? | 19:18 |
| Kiall | " Making asynchronous call on network ... " ... then it goes silent | 19:19 |
| Kiall | g2: actually .. what does "nova-manage service list" show? | 19:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #873610 in nova "vcpu_weight migration didn't add column to models" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873610 | 19:22 |
| g2 | Kiall: Pasted the relevant lines around the time from nova-network.log | 19:24 |
| g2 | Kiall: Pasted the output of service list. All services are running on this node. | 19:25 |
| g2 | Kiall: I used to have another node in the cluster, that I took down and diabled the services | 19:26 |
| g2 | Kiall: One more data point. I have 2 networks created on this node (Ids 10 and 11). I tried to delete the second network but the command fails. I am wondering if there is some issue due to this. | 19:27 |
| Kiall | I wonder if the scheduler is sending it to openstack2 even though its disabled | 19:27 |
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| Kiall | try deleting that node from the services table (backup first of course_ | 19:27 |
| Kiall | re the deleted networks, I've had an issue where deleteing a network only removed it from the networks table, and not the fixed_ips table | 19:28 |
| g2 | Pasted the problem with deleting the network. I will delete the node from the service table list and try again. | 19:29 |
| g2 | How can I forcefully delete the network? | 19:29 |
| Kiall | you can remove it from directly the DB (networks and fixed_ips tables) | 19:31 |
| Kiall | at least - I have done that without noticing any issues | 19:31 |
| Kiall | someone else might correct me if its going to blow shit up ;) | 19:31 |
| g2 | let me try. Not worried about messing up anything, this is a dev setup. | 19:32 |
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| g2 | Kiall: Database updated. I should restart compute and network. Do you think I should restart anything else? | 19:37 |
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| Kiall | shouldnt need to | 19:39 |
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| g2 | Kiall: It worked!! | 19:42 |
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| g2 | Thanks a lot!!! | 19:42 |
| Kiall | glad to hear :) | 19:42 |
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| crussell | guys: i think i'm realizing part of my problem. | 19:43 |
| crussell | guys: would you recommend i go line by line and do the apt-gets of the packages | 19:43 |
| crussell | or use something like nova.sh installer script | 19:44 |
| crussell | I remember doing that on the other version.... | 19:44 |
| g2 | Kiall: Now there are lot more meaningful messages in the logs... Thanks again for your help. l8r | 19:44 |
| Kiall | no problem | 19:44 |
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| Kiall | Anyone know what roles are required for a user to be able to add+delete security groups? | 19:52 |
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| gnu111 | koolhead17: here's my outcome of the test: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2716/ | 19:54 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: i got one simple thing to say | 19:55 |
| koolhead17 | RBAC is fail | 19:55 |
| gnu111 | I know. | 19:55 |
| Kiall | RBAC is the "right way" .. but this implementation seems off :) | 19:55 |
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| Kiall | gnu111: any ideas whats required to add/remove security groups? | 19:56 |
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| koolhead17 | Kiall: itsec should do it | 19:56 |
| robix_ | trying to start nova-api but getting: "ImportError: cannot import name create_instance_helper" Thoughts? | 19:56 |
| gnu111 | Kiall: you can try euca-delete-group | 19:57 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: actually you can`t even start/teminate an instance even when u are a sysadmin/projectadmin/cloudadmin | 19:57 |
| Kiall | koolhead17: actually .. just saw this: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/diablo/nova/api/ec2/__init__.py#L273 | 19:57 |
| koolhead17 | but not created with silverspoon "admin" | 19:57 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 19:57 |
| Kiall | so, netadmin is the required role .. yet users with that role (both global and local) cant add/delete groups | 19:57 |
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| Kiall | itsec doesnt seem to do it either ;) | 19:58 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: so its a fail :P | 19:58 |
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| koolhead17 | Kiall: in nova database there is table called users with field "is_admin" that holds all powers :) | 19:59 |
| Kiall | Yea - I'm intentionally trying to get users without that flag working ;) | 19:59 |
| koolhead17 | user with "1" you can do any bloody thing | 19:59 |
| koolhead17 | like terminate any instance even if your not member of that project | 20:00 |
| Kiall | I have no intention of giving every user full global admin rights ;) | 20:00 |
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| koolhead17 | ;-) to teminate/add/upload u need to make that bloody table "1" | 20:00 |
| koolhead17 | :( | 20:00 |
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| Kiall | Okay .. I have Global: cloudadmin, developer, itsec, netadmin, sysadmin.. and Project: developer, netadmin, sysadmin, projectmanager... | 20:05 |
| Kiall | yet .. I still cant edit groups -_- | 20:05 |
| Kiall | this *has* to be a bug | 20:05 |
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| Bootstrap | Kiall | 20:07 |
| Bootstrap | How would the network structure look using a single machine? | 20:07 |
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| Kiall | Cable --> Server? ;') | 20:09 |
| Kiall | You will need to be more specific! | 20:09 |
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| Bootstrap | I mean is it really possible for all the services to run in a single machine?\ | 20:10 |
| Kiall | yes - I have everything running on 1 test server at the moemnt | 20:10 |
| Kiall | moment* | 20:10 |
| Kiall | http://devstack.org/ also scripts the entire install on a single server | 20:10 |
| LeanReox | Bootstrap single machine installation is called | 20:10 |
| Bootstrap | how many instances were you able to make? | 20:10 |
| LeanReox | Bootstrap depends on your hardware and your flavors ... | 20:11 |
| Kiall | thats only limited by RAM+CPU | 20:11 |
| Kiall | I have a single server running about 30 instances right now... | 20:11 |
| Kiall | Now does anyone know how non-admin users can add/remove groups -_- everything is giving me permission deined | 20:12 |
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| koolhead17 | Kiall: you want the magic i have one command for it | 20:15 |
| Kiall | koolhead17: no - im not giving every user full admin rights. Either this is a bug that has managed to slip past the dev's, or I'm doing something wrong .. | 20:16 |
| Kiall | either way - full admin rights for every user is simply not the solution. | 20:16 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: indeed | 20:16 |
| koolhead17 | so u are not able to run an instance i suppose | 20:16 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 20:16 |
| koolhead17 | and upload images | 20:16 |
| koolhead17 | with all those rights | 20:16 |
| Kiall | i can run images just fine .. | 20:17 |
| Kiall | havent needed to upload images as this user.. | 20:17 |
| Kiall | run instances* | 20:17 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: i was not even able to run instance/shoudown or upload images unless i | nova-manage user modify myuser "" "" T | 20:18 |
| koolhead17 | :( | 20:18 |
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| Kiall | koolhead17: then you probably didnt have the projectmanager role or something ;) | 20:20 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: did u created ur project manager as --> nova-manage user admin myuser | 20:21 |
| Kiall | yes | 20:21 |
| koolhead17 | hah, there u go | 20:21 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: now can u do one thing | 20:21 |
| Kiall | yes, that is how the project manager role is assigned | 20:21 |
| Kiall | ah wait | 20:22 |
| Kiall | no | 20:22 |
| koolhead17 | cool so see this : create a user say "A" ok | 20:22 |
| Kiall | read that wrong ;) | 20:22 |
| koolhead17 | now add him to a project | 20:22 |
| Kiall | I did not create the user with that command | 20:22 |
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| Kiall | I have added 1 user with that command "root" .. this is the "kiall" user .. created with nova-manage user create | 20:23 |
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| koolhead17 | so you mean u created an ordinary user | nova-manage user create auser | 20:27 |
| koolhead17 | and then associated him as a projectadmin and created a project? | 20:27 |
| kbringard | this is how I do it | 20:27 |
| koolhead17 | cool kbringard :) | 20:28 |
| kbringard | nova-manage user create bob | 20:28 |
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| kbringard | nova manage role add —user=bob —role=sysadmin | 20:28 |
| kbringard | nova-manage role add —user=bob —role=sysadmin —project=someproject | 20:28 |
| kbringard | nova-manage role add —user=bob —role=netadmin | 20:28 |
| kbringard | nova-manage role add —user=bob —role=netadmin —project=someproject | 20:29 |
| kbringard | that should create the user bob | 20:29 |
| kbringard | and add him to the sysadmin and netadmin roles globally | 20:29 |
| kbringard | and then add him as sysadmin and netadmin to the project "someproject" | 20:29 |
| Kiall | kbringard: and can that user add/remove security groups? ;) | 20:29 |
| kbringard | they should be able to | 20:30 |
| kbringard | that's part of the netadmin group | 20:30 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: well i tried same i was not able to run an instance with not authorized error | 20:30 |
| Kiall | kbringard: mind trying it? See: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2717/ | 20:31 |
| koolhead17 | and when i did | nova-manage user modify bob "" "" T | 20:31 |
| koolhead17 | i was able to upload it :( | 20:31 |
| kbringard | I assume you guys are running diablo milestone? | 20:32 |
| Kiall | yup | 20:32 |
| kbringard | hmm, something else must be wrong then, because that's all I do and it works :-) | 20:32 |
| kbringard | I guess check the users table and all the *_role_* tables in the DB | 20:34 |
| kbringard | make sure they look sane | 20:34 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: what do u see in roles table "is_Admin" for bob? | 20:34 |
| koolhead17 | is it "1" | 20:34 |
| koolhead17 | ? | 20:34 |
| kbringard | no, it shouldn't be | 20:34 |
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| kbringard | to make a user an admin you do nova-manage user admin —name=bob | 20:35 |
| kbringard | that will create a new user with is_admin = 1 | 20:35 |
| kbringard | you shouldn't need to assign them any roles | 20:35 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: yes i got it | 20:35 |
| kbringard | because they inherently get all roles in all projects | 20:35 |
| koolhead17 | ooh ok | 20:35 |
| kbringard | then, when I create a new project | 20:35 |
| kbringard | nova-manage project create —project="someproject" —user="bob" | 20:36 |
| kbringard | where bob is the admin user you created earlier | 20:36 |
| kbringard | I use the same admin user for all projects | 20:36 |
| kbringard | personally | 20:36 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: so bob is superduper admin | 20:37 |
| koolhead17 | then | 20:37 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 20:37 |
| kbringard | yes | 20:37 |
| kbringard | if is_admin = 1 | 20:37 |
| kbringard | then that's "superduper" | 20:37 |
| kbringard | it transcends projects | 20:37 |
| Kiall | kbringard: sadly, I've done all the above, and have (manually) fudged every single role into both the global and local tables, and still, if is_admin = 0, I cant create/delete security groups :) | 20:37 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: you can`t even run instance withour is_admin =1 man :( | 20:38 |
| koolhead17 | Daviey: around? | 20:38 |
| Kiall | koolhead17: I certainly can .. | 20:38 |
| Kiall | the only thing I've not been able to do, its manage security groups | 20:38 |
| koolhead17 | but i can`t :( | 20:38 |
| Kiall | then you dont have the right roles, because that works in the diablo release :) | 20:38 |
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| koolhead17 | Kiall: are you using github source? | 20:38 |
| Kiall | No, the ubuntu oneiric packages | 20:39 |
| Kiall | Try the role add commands from here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2717/ | 20:39 |
| Kiall | (lots of those will fail .. ignore) | 20:40 |
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| Bootstrap | Thanks Kiall... gtg | 20:41 |
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| koolhead17 | Kiall: are u running oneiric final release? | 20:42 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: you are using one from source? | 20:42 |
| Kiall | <Kiall> No, the ubuntu oneiric packages | 20:42 |
| Kiall | so no, not from source :) | 20:42 |
| Kiall | and yes - those are the release packages | 20:42 |
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| kbringard | koolhead17: no, I'm running on Ubuntu Natty and another on Maverick, using the packages from the PPA milestone | 20:43 |
| Kiall | dooh! | 20:43 |
| Kiall | " kbringard: you are us" .. I read that as kiall :) | 20:43 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: seriouslu dooh | 20:43 |
| Kiall | sorry ;) | 20:43 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: what am i doing wrong then :( | 20:43 |
| kbringard | I have no idea man | 20:43 |
| koolhead17 | am using mysql as nova db | 20:43 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: and what configs you added to nova.conf | 20:44 |
| koolhead17 | anything special which i might have missed? | 20:44 |
| kbringard | don't think so | 20:45 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: all this while i thought your running from source | 20:45 |
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| kbringard | koolhead17: I have another install that I run trunk on | 20:47 |
| kbringard | but I do it from the ppa trunk packages, not source | 20:47 |
| koolhead17 | hey gnu111. you missed awesome conversation with kbringard on rbac | 20:47 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: okey. one more question | 20:48 |
| gnu111 | sorry. had to run to a meeting. | 20:48 |
| koolhead17 | then you create zipfile which has credential and novarc | 20:48 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: http://paste.ubuntu.com/707561/ :) | 20:49 |
| kbringard | yea, nova-manage project zipfile | 20:49 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: thanks! | 20:50 |
| kbringard | nova-manage project zipfile —project=someproject —user=bob | 20:50 |
| kbringard | that'll save a file called nova.zip | 20:50 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: do u need to change access credentials in it as by defualts it comes like "username:project" | 20:50 |
| kbringard | when you unzip it it'll have a file called novarc, which you should be able to just source (. novarc) and then start running euca-* commands | 20:50 |
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| kbringard | now, I do everything with the ec2 api, so I can't couch for the openstack API | 20:51 |
| kbringard | vouch* | 20:51 |
| kbringard | it should work, I just don't know the commands off the top of my head | 20:51 |
| kbringard | the access key and secret key stay the same | 20:51 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: in my case i have to replace the secret key with the one that got created during creating the user | 20:51 |
| kbringard | from project to project, once you have the novarc you can generate a new zipfile for each project or you can just change the project name after the : in the access key | 20:51 |
| kbringard | if you've created the user and then generate the zipfile, all the right info should be in there | 20:52 |
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| Kiall | kbringard: can you test something for me? Creating/Deleting security groups without is_admin=1 | 20:53 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: I am still running Cactus. This worked for me: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2716/ | 20:53 |
| Kiall | Everything else works for me, bar that | 20:53 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: ooh. we are all on diablo and am having some issues there :( | 20:53 |
| gnu111 | I can't get diablo work with RHEL :( | 20:54 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: even i create per project and per user zipfile to source him for running euca commands | 20:54 |
| gnu111 | maybe have to try installing it from source. | 20:54 |
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| koolhead17 | gnu111: hmm | 20:56 |
| kbringard | Kiall: euca-add-group -d "Kevin Test Group" kevin-test | 20:56 |
| kbringard | GROUPkevin-testKevin Test Group | 20:56 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: also am using old commands | 20:56 |
| kbringard | euca-describe-groups kevin-test | 20:56 |
| kbringard | GROUPtestkevin-testKevin Test Group | 20:56 |
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| gnu111 | The sysadmin role allows uploading kernels. I need to find a way to not allow users to upload and register kernel. I want them to use an existing kernel with their own image. is that possible? | 20:57 |
| Kiall | kbringard: damn -_- thats with trunk right? | 20:57 |
| kbringard | Kiall: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2719/ | 20:58 |
| kbringard | that's with the diablo release | 20:58 |
| Kiall | same here, yet that command is failing for me | 20:58 |
| kbringard | I'd remove the user and try again | 20:58 |
| kbringard | or try again with a new user | 20:58 |
| kbringard | I really don't know, but I'd say something has to be hosed, because it should be working :-) | 20:59 |
| Kiall | Just cloned the nova diablo branch, killed the nova-api from ubuntu's packages, and started one from the clone... | 20:59 |
| Kiall | it works now -_- | 20:59 |
| kbringard | there you go :-) | 20:59 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: i need the way too. | 20:59 |
| Kiall | koolhead17: i just cloned from the github repo and ran the API server from the clone (using the original flags+db+etc etc) | 21:00 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: you mean nova shipped with oneiric has some issue which is resulting us in this problem? | 21:00 |
| Kiall | possibly, not 100% sure whats going on | 21:01 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: exact url needed :P | 21:01 |
| Kiall | github.com/openstack/nova ;) | 21:01 |
| koolhead17 | but kbringard your using it directly from oneiric repository isn`t it | 21:02 |
| kbringard | I'm not using the oneiric repo | 21:02 |
| * koolhead17 is superconfused | 21:02 | |
| kbringard | I use the launchpad PPA repos | 21:02 |
| kbringard | I've never used an official ubuntu repo for openstack | 21:02 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: please pass me the link i will try the same tommorow once am in office. to execute as you mentioned | 21:03 |
| kbringard | apt-get -y install python-software-properties && add-apt-repository ppa:nova-core/trunk | 21:03 |
| kbringard | apt-get -y update | 21:03 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: kbringard you don`t have to mention flag --use-deprecated-auth=true in your nova.conf ? | 21:03 |
| Kiall | nope | 21:03 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: that template is slightly old | 21:04 |
| kbringard | I use deprecated auth | 21:04 |
| kbringard | and I use the correct pipeline in the api-paste.ini | 21:04 |
| koolhead17 | aah you add that handle too in nova.conf | 21:04 |
| koolhead17 | i have not added these 2 there | 21:04 |
| kbringard | until I get keystone working :-) | 21:04 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: so i should add these two lines there in my nova.conf and check it. Also am not using these new commands as i find older commands with mentioning these flags works well for me | 21:06 |
| koolhead17 | what would you suggest? i should try them all with these flags as u mentioned | 21:07 |
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| koolhead17 | thanks Kiall kbringard :) | 21:20 |
| kbringard | sorry, was in a meeting | 21:24 |
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| koolhead17 | (02:36:38 IST) koolhead17: kbringard: so i should add these two lines there in my nova.conf and check it. Also am not using these new commands as i find older commands with mentioning these flags works well for me | 21:25 |
| koolhead17 | (02:37:02 IST) koolhead17: what would you suggest? i should try them all with these flags as u mentioned | 21:25 |
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| kbringard | what commands aren't working? | 21:27 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #873686 in openstack-qa "nova.network.lease_fixed_ip doesn't raise correct exceptions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873686 | 21:28 |
| kbringard | aiight, I need to call it a day | 21:30 |
| kbringard | have a good one peoples | 21:30 |
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| praefect | guys, how can I get the number of VCPUS available on the cloud with nova-manage or euca2ools? | 21:52 |
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| nerdstein | i did a euca-authorize for port 22 and previously could connect via SSH to my instances | 23:29 |
| nerdstein | it no longer works | 23:29 |
| nerdstein | "no route to host" | 23:30 |
| nerdstein | any suggestions? | 23:30 |
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| allan_ | Hello all | 23:50 |
| allan_ | I want to demonstrate cloud computing, what is the minimum requirement connection for my ISP? | 23:50 |
| allan_ | from my ISP* | 23:51 |
| allan_ | my LAN is using 1000Mbps | 23:53 |
| Kiall | well .. nothing really .. you dont even need an internet connection to run openstack | 23:54 |
| Kiall | the instances you run might want internet access .. but that entirely depends on what you choose to run on them .. | 23:54 |
| allan_ | I want to demonstrate it to different schools here in our place | 23:55 |
| Kiall | again, it entirely depends on what you choose to run on it .. | 23:55 |
| allan_ | videos, web apps for elementary students | 23:56 |
| allan_ | and the most web apps are for faculty | 23:56 |
| Kiall | then that depends on the number of concurrent users, the video bitrates etc .. | 23:56 |
| Kiall | no different to a standard webserver in that regard | 23:57 |
| Kiall | openstack adds no overheads | 23:57 |
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| allan_ | I am using minimal hardware... dual core, 2GB RAM, GB LAN... Will 1Mbs be enough? | 23:58 |
| allan_ | and all services are running on 1 machine | 23:58 |
| Kiall | allan_: I'm really not sure you are understanding me, OpenStack does not make any use whatsover of an internet connection. | 23:59 |
| Kiall | Your internet connection requirements are based on what you choose to run inside openstack | 23:59 |
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