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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872615 in openstack-qa "nova.compute.api.create don't validate max_count is a valid number" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872615 | 00:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872618 in openstack-qa "get_instance_type don't handle exception.InstanceTypeNotFound" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872618 | 00:26 |
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| rmk | In a multi-zone configuration, is it possible for a user to be explicit about which zone a given instance launches into? | 00:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872645 in nova "OSAPI v1.1 flavor id should be uuid" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872645 | 03:41 |
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| livemoon | hi, hugokuo | 03:54 |
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| livemoon | Hi, my glance-api often stops itself. Does anyone meet this cas[Ce? | 04:23 |
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| livemoon | hi, is anyone here? | 05:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872674 in keystone "Error after changing swauth to keystone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872674 | 05:51 |
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| Vadim | hi all | 06:09 |
| Vadim | =) | 06:09 |
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| Vadim | siwos good morning =) | 06:22 |
| siwos | hello everybody | 06:23 |
| Vadim | maybe anybody have scheme how swift work? | 06:25 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872684 in openstack-dashboard "settings.SWIFT_ENABLED should be replaced by service catalog check" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872684 | 06:26 |
| rmk | Anyone know what the proper permissions are to get tenants/users/quotas/etc to authorize via the dashboard? | 06:28 |
| Vadim | admin? | 06:29 |
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| rmk | thats what I'd have thought | 06:30 |
| rmk | not working though | 06:30 |
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| Vadim | strange. when you authorize in dashboard you see system panel near user dashboard? | 06:32 |
| rmk | "Unable to get tenant info: You are not authorized to make this call" | 06:34 |
| rmk | Yep | 06:34 |
| rmk | Everything works fine except the pages which would be managing keystone itself (tenants, users, quotas) | 06:35 |
| rmk | actually quotas is fine | 06:35 |
| rmk | justs users and tenants not authorizing | 06:35 |
| livemoon | hi,does anyone meet glance-api problem? | 06:35 |
| livemoon | when I click on images/instances web page, errors occur in glance-api log | 06:36 |
| Vadim | you grant role KeystoneServiceAdmin your admin? | 06:36 |
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| Vadim | <livemoon> i dont have any error. | 06:37 |
| rmk | Vadim: I tried that too and am now deleting the auto generated tokens | 06:37 |
| rmk | 2 tokens get created when I login | 06:38 |
| rmk | one has a tenant_id associated, the other does not | 06:38 |
| rmk | dashboard seems to get upset if the user logging in doesn't have a specific tenant associated | 06:39 |
| livemoon | Vadim : Do you install via devstack script or manually? | 06:39 |
| Vadim | <livemoon> manual )) but read devstack script =) | 06:39 |
| livemoon | ok | 06:40 |
| rmk | uh ok figured it out | 06:40 |
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| rmk | role associated to the user needs to be keystoneadmin only, not both admin + keystoneadmin | 06:41 |
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| rmk | this actually seems like a bug | 06:43 |
| Vadim | my admin have not only keystoneadmin role | 06:45 |
| rmk | Does your keystone config have keystone-service-admin-role = KeystoneServiceAdmin? | 06:47 |
| Vadim | yeap | 06:47 |
| rmk | odd | 06:47 |
| rmk | I'm using the diablo branch of both keystone and dashboard | 06:47 |
| Vadim | anybody have example novarc with keystone? | 06:48 |
| rmk | great question -- I was trying to get that working as well | 06:48 |
| Vadim | hugokuo have ) | 06:49 |
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| tokuz | you need ketystone admin role to manage users and tenants, because keystone support two type of APIs, only admin api could manage user and tenant | 06:52 |
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| rmk | I can't get the nova command line tool to auth using keystone | 07:06 |
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| Vadim | does anybody have working novnc? | 07:06 |
| rmk | Using environment variables, or explicitly passing values via --username, etc | 07:06 |
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| hugokuo | morning | 07:08 |
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| Vadim | <hugokuo> how are you ))) pls can you share novarc with keystone auth? | 07:09 |
| hugokuo | vadim: https://github.com/HugoKuo/Diablo10-11 | 07:11 |
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| Vadim | thx | 07:12 |
| Vadim | as i understand need change nova-url and region? | 07:16 |
| Vadim | <hugokuo> api-key this is our token? | 07:19 |
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| hugokuo | Vadim .....secrete | 07:25 |
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| livemoon | hi, hugokuo | 07:33 |
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| livemoon | hi, all. Does quotas work well now? | 07:35 |
| hugokuo | not sure XD ....about this question | 07:39 |
| livemoon | I want to use quotas, is there any document? | 07:39 |
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| livemoon | hugokuo : I meet a problem. when I click on instances web page in dashboard. error occurs in glance-api.log. | 07:40 |
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| hugokuo | livemoon , so what 's the error ? | 07:41 |
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| livemoon | http://pastebin.com/wN1N4fc6 | 07:43 |
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| livemoon | hugokuo :http://pastebin.com/wN1N4fc6 | 07:43 |
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| livemoon | hugokuo : in apache log: [Wed Oct 12 03:40:49 2011] [error] DEBUG:django.db.backends:(0.001) SELECT "django_session"."session_key", "django_session"."session_data", "django_session"."expire_date" FROM "django_session" WHERE ("django_session"."session_key" = 3f4d0ceb6afa7690c7e8fcb2ea844528 AND "django_session"."expire_date" > 2011-10-12 03:40:49.852237 ); args=('3f4d0ceb6afa7690c7e8fcb2ea844528', u'2011-10-12 03:40:49.852237') | 07:45 |
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| livemoon | hi, what dose command "keystone-manage $* role grant Admin admin admin" mean? | 08:38 |
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| livemoon | why two "admin" in command | 08:38 |
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| tzn | role, user, tenant | 08:51 |
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| tzn | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/test/sampledata.py | 08:52 |
| tzn | then user has that role on behalf of specific tenant | 08:52 |
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| livemoon | tzn : thanks | 09:36 |
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| nandersson | Hi, I want to download stackops iso but I cant find a torrentfile. Is there only direct download available? | 10:34 |
| Vadim | anybody have working command line with keystone? | 10:35 |
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| davidmaitland | hey! | 10:48 |
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| davidmaitland | Quick question: I'm setting up a single node/controller on a RackSpace vm (for testing) I have two interfaces the public one (31.222.162.***) and the local network one (10.177.68.***) but I dont know how to state the network config. Like the floating range, fixed range etc... | 10:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872780 in nova "sql_min_pool_size and sql_max_pool_size do not make sence" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872780 | 11:01 |
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| Vadim | when i create keypair via dashboard and start instance with this key | 11:21 |
| Vadim | where i can find this key? | 11:21 |
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| livemoon | hi | 11:42 |
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| tzn | Vadim: what are you looking for exaclty? key location on instance? | 11:53 |
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| livemoon | hi, tzn, do you know keystone | 11:55 |
| tzn | yes | 11:55 |
| livemoon | Now my glance-api also exit itself, and when I click images webpage in dashboard, error occurs in glance-api.log | 11:57 |
| livemoon | and error in apache log too | 11:57 |
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| atkisc | hi,everybody | 11:58 |
| livemoon | [error] DEBUG:django_openstack.api:auth_api connection created using url "http://localhost:5000/v2.0/" | 11:58 |
| livemoon | this is error in apache | 11:58 |
| atkisc | when i run nova-compute , error: | 11:58 |
| atkisc | AMQPChannelException: (406, u"PRECONDITION_FAILED - cannot redeclare exchange 'nova' in vhost '/' with different type, durable, internal or autodelete value", (40, 10), 'Channel.exchange_declare') | 11:59 |
| livemoon | yz? | 11:59 |
| atkisc | ? | 11:59 |
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| livemoon | hi,tzn, can you see this error: http://pastebin.com/kjihVEgY | 12:04 |
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| Razique | hey all :) | 12:21 |
| Vadim | hi | 12:21 |
| Razique | hey | 12:23 |
| Razique | how r u ? | 12:23 |
| tzn | livemoon: so which error are you reffering to? | 12:23 |
| livemoon | http://pastebin.com/kjihVEgY | 12:23 |
| livemoon | I past the error in http://pastebin.com/kjihVEgY | 12:24 |
| tzn | show me your netstat -nltp | 12:24 |
| livemoon | tzn :http://pastebin.com/A2G92FQ1 | 12:27 |
| tzn | hmm | 12:27 |
| tzn | anything before? | 12:28 |
| tzn | in the log? | 12:28 |
| livemoon | which log? | 12:28 |
| tzn | that one you pasted | 12:28 |
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| livemoon | no, when I click "images" webpage in dashboard, this error just occurs. | 12:29 |
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| livemoon | there are also apache error log. http://pastebin.com/uv8wb2yh | 12:32 |
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| Vadim | <livemoon> but in dashboard all clear? | 12:34 |
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| livemoon | yes | 12:34 |
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| livemoon | but glance-api downs always | 12:35 |
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| livemoon | tzn : do you know someting about this? | 12:40 |
| tzn | no idea for now | 12:40 |
| tzn | im integrating with swift at the moment | 12:40 |
| livemoon | ok | 12:45 |
| saju_m | how shutdown an instance using eucatools | 12:46 |
| saju_m | there is no command for that | 12:46 |
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| GavinB_ | euca-terminate-instances kills and removes any trace of an instance. | 12:47 |
| Vadim | euca-terminate-instances | 12:47 |
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| saju_m | is there something like euca-start-instances and euca-stop-instances ??? | 12:48 |
| saju_m | euca-terminate-instances will delete instance | 12:48 |
| saju_m | i want only shutdown, like what we cando in EC2. | 12:49 |
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| saju_m | through boto we can stop and start an penstack instance . | 12:50 |
| saju_m | i think eucatool not providing that feature ???? | 12:51 |
| GavinB_ | If you just want to shutdown, I think you're only option is to do it on the VM itself ... otherwise snapshot and destroy the instance, and create a new one with the snapshot when you want to start again. | 12:52 |
| GavinB_ | not exactly the same, I know | 12:52 |
| Vadim | i think openstack havent this function | 12:53 |
| GavinB_ | simplest is probably just to put a wrapper around ssh and ssh in and shut it down ... | 12:54 |
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| BasTichelaar | I think its kinda stupid to not have a shutdown functionality | 12:56 |
| BasTichelaar | the idea is ofcourse you dont shutdown, but you migrate to another server when there is some maintenance | 12:57 |
| GavinB_ | or just delete it if you don't want it. Paying to have a non-running VM seems odd to me :) | 12:59 |
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| Vadim | anybody have working noVNC? | 13:05 |
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| saju_m | ok, thanks for infos | 13:06 |
| saju_m | noVNC? | 13:06 |
| Vadim | yes | 13:07 |
| Vadim | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-the-vnc-proxy.html | 13:07 |
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| livemoon | anybody have problem in glance-api with dashborad? | 13:09 |
| koolhead17 | vishy: ping | 13:09 |
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| Vadim | <livemoon> you use mysql? you have running glance-registry? | 13:11 |
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| livemoon | yes | 13:11 |
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| livemoon | someone answer my question in maillist | 13:11 |
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| Madkiss | hi folks | 13:14 |
| Madkiss | i have a little question concerning my understanding of openstack. Let's assume I have a virtual machine running somewhere in an openstack-hosted cloud, and the server running my VM crashes. What will happen? | 13:15 |
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| koolhead17 | jsavak: hi | 13:16 |
| GavinB_ | <Madkiss> You will lose access to the VM, and will be unable to do anything with it until the server is rebooted. You won't even be able to terminate it. | 13:17 |
| Madkiss | GavinB_: and can I as cloud-admin do something to get the thing reboot automatically? | 13:18 |
| jsavak | koolhead: hi | 13:19 |
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| GavinB_ | Madkiss: That will depend on your cluster setup. In my case I'd connect to the server management interface and reboot (or have watcher software do this for me) - but this is nothing to do with Openstack. | 13:20 |
| Madkiss | I see | 13:20 |
| GavinB_ | I think it's a bug that you cannot at least terminate the instance if the host is down ... | 13:21 |
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| Madkiss | GavinB_: well, for me, coming from a pacemaker-HA-world, this sounds somewhat, ahum, backward ... | 13:22 |
| GavinB_ | Madkiss: well you are free to use HA as much as you like on the servers. Openstack is not a complete solution - just an important part of one. | 13:23 |
| GavinB_ | Madkiss: Here in HP, we have a *lot* more than just Openstack on our production setup ... | 13:23 |
| siwos | GavinB: can you tell some more ;-) | 13:23 |
| GavinB_ | Monitoring (multiple sorts), deployment, auto-restarts of services .... | 13:24 |
| Vadim | <Madkiss> guys from this channel whant use several zone for HA... instance running in several zone... and if 1 zone go down you have another zone with this instance... i dont know how this work =) | 13:24 |
| GavinB_ | Yep - that's the next level of HA; using multiple zones. | 13:25 |
| siwos | Vadim: simply we do not guarantee anything | 13:25 |
| GavinB_ | Remember this is cloud - you have to expect something to break :) | 13:25 |
| siwos | we force our devops to think | 13:25 |
| siwos | GavinB_: true | 13:25 |
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| Vadim | <siwos> of course but this is good idea... | 13:25 |
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| livemoon | hi,good evening | 13:26 |
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| siwos | GavinB_: our production setup is gonna run on bl2x220c from HP | 13:27 |
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| siwos | can you tell what setup you have at HP | 13:27 |
| siwos | I mean hardware | 13:27 |
| siwos | we plan a rollout of 100 blades, each with local SSD onboard | 13:28 |
| kbringard | siwos: how are you managing the deployment to 100 blades? | 13:28 |
| Vadim | <GavinB_> 2 variant make HA... 2 running copy instance or have common store for this instance... for example vCenter with several esxi host and have common store... restart machine when host down. | 13:28 |
| siwos | we've got some solutions already in place | 13:29 |
| kbringard | siwos: I assumed as much, I was curious what they were ;-) | 13:29 |
| siwos | we've got a large server farm already | 13:29 |
| kbringard | if you can't talk about it, that's cool | 13:29 |
| siwos | use some opensource tools | 13:29 |
| siwos | check out systemimager | 13:29 |
| siwos | puppet for config management | 13:30 |
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| kbringard | cool cool | 13:30 |
| siwos | I'm currently investigating crowbar | 13:30 |
| kbringard | hey, me too | 13:30 |
| Madkiss | GavinB_: I see what you mean | 13:31 |
| kbringard | the biggest problem I've run into with it so far is that, best as I can tell, you have to install the crowbar controller from an ISO | 13:31 |
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| kbringard | but none of my machines have dvd drives and using iLO to mount the image remotely is a pain | 13:31 |
| siwos | in my case the hdd was not recognized ;-) | 13:32 |
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| siwos | so I couldn't install | 13:32 |
| kbringard | siwos: yes | 13:32 |
| kbringard | that happened to me too | 13:32 |
| kbringard | was this on your HP gear? | 13:32 |
| siwos | I'm trying to build my own iso | 13:32 |
| kbringard | I think the problem is the cciss stuff | 13:32 |
| siwos | I will try to build one for HP blades and publish this | 13:32 |
| siwos | no - also no luck with bl2x220c | 13:32 |
| siwos | which has plain sas onboard | 13:32 |
| kbringard | oh, hmmm | 13:33 |
| kbringard | weird… well, if you get anywhere, let me know | 13:33 |
| kbringard | and I'll do the same :-) | 13:33 |
| siwos | ok - I will try to publish this iso | 13:33 |
| kbringard | I really want to have it PXE | 13:34 |
| kbringard | that would make me ever so happy | 13:34 |
| siwos | I played also a little bit with puppet modules by rackspace | 13:34 |
| livemoon | siwos , what iso? | 13:35 |
| siwos | you can produce your own crowbar iso | 13:35 |
| siwos | the default one seems to be working only on dell machines | 13:35 |
| kbringard | shocker | 13:35 |
| livemoon | what is Crowbar? | 13:35 |
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| siwos | cloud installer | 13:36 |
| siwos | from dell | 13:36 |
| livemoon | ok | 13:36 |
| livemoon | I know | 13:36 |
| livemoon | use openstack? | 13:36 |
| kbringard | livemoon: https://github.com/dellcloudedge/crowbar | 13:36 |
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| livemoon | I have called them and asked them | 13:36 |
| Madkiss | GavinB_: thank you very much :) | 13:36 |
| livemoon | because our company machines are dell | 13:37 |
| siwos | for me deployment is not a huge consideration. I rather focus on further config management | 13:37 |
| siwos | puppet/chef | 13:37 |
| siwos | both have their modules for openstack | 13:37 |
| kbringard | yea, same here | 13:37 |
| livemoon | which openstack version do you use now? | 13:37 |
| kbringard | getting nodes installed isn't terribly difficult, managing them after the fact it a but more troublesome | 13:38 |
| kbringard | is a bit* | 13:38 |
| kbringard | yeesh, not enough coffee | 13:38 |
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| livemoon | I am ready to test drbd with volume in openstack | 13:41 |
| siwos | for me crowbar is too complicated. the same thing can be accomplished with known tools (simpler) | 13:42 |
| livemoon | siwos : I hope to read your doc | 13:44 |
| siwos | still no documentation has been produced | 13:44 |
| siwos | ;-) | 13:44 |
| siwos | we only published a slideshow | 13:44 |
| livemoon | have a look | 13:44 |
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| siwos | http://www.slideshare.net/draggho/building-openstack-in-allegrogroup | 13:46 |
| siwos | slide 82 is the architectuer | 13:47 |
| kbringard | haha, I love the facepalms | 13:48 |
| livemoon | thanks | 13:49 |
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| siwos | ;-) | 13:50 |
| siwos | guys - gotta go | 13:51 |
| siwos | bye | 13:51 |
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| livemoon | bye | 13:51 |
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| uksysadmin | hello all. quick q (isn't it always?) | 13:57 |
| uksysadmin | I'm looking at Ubuntu Orchestra for deploying OpenStack. Are there any public resources on how to achieve this? | 13:57 |
| kbringard | this is the first I've heard of it | 13:58 |
| kbringard | soren may know | 13:58 |
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| Vadim | <kbringard> hey. maybe you have working noVNC? | 13:59 |
| kbringard | Vadim: I had it working with an old version of the portal | 13:59 |
| kbringard | a long time ago | 13:59 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: hola | 14:05 |
| kbringard | hai | 14:05 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: so role based access control will not work with keystone | 14:07 |
| kbringard | are you asking, or telling? | 14:08 |
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| livemoon | hi | 14:09 |
| koolhead17 | am telling you | 14:09 |
| kbringard | ah, good to know | 14:09 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: how are you my friend | 14:09 |
| livemoon | fine | 14:09 |
| Vadim | koolhead17> why? | 14:10 |
| livemoon | today I set up three nodes compute , and give to user to use | 14:10 |
| livemoon | but one bug make me worry | 14:10 |
| koolhead17 | livemoon: report thr bug then | 14:11 |
| livemoon | how do you think volume redundancy? | 14:11 |
| livemoon | yes, the bug someone have reported, but nobody are process it | 14:11 |
| kbringard | livemoon: which bug? | 14:12 |
| livemoon | https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/862664 | 14:13 |
| Kiall | has anyone got keystone working from the ubuntu oneiric packages? | 14:13 |
| livemoon | tomorrow I will focus on volume | 14:13 |
| kbringard | Kiall: I don't even have it working from the maverick or natty packages | 14:14 |
| Kiall | ;) | 14:14 |
| kbringard | I reverted to installing from source | 14:14 |
| livemoon | now I am going to bathe | 14:14 |
| Kiall | well .. nova and glance oneiric packages work perfectly .. | 14:14 |
| kbringard | thanks for the update, livemoon ;-) | 14:14 |
| Kiall | dash and keystone seem .. off.. | 14:14 |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: true | 14:15 |
| kbringard | Kiall: yea, I've had similar problems | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: am running nova on natty | 14:15 |
| livemoon | because dash and keystone are not diablo release | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | and just configured nova from resposiroty for oneiric as well | 14:15 |
| koolhead17 | :D | 14:15 |
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| livemoon | when dose oneiric release? | 14:16 |
| Kiall | tomorrow .. | 14:16 |
| livemoon | cool | 14:16 |
| Kiall | (but I'm pretty sure the "dev" tag got removed yesterday ish if you apt-get update .. | 14:16 |
| * Kiall double checks .. | 14:17 | |
| koolhead17 | Kiall: i downloded latest image hours back | 14:17 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: sysadmin role cannot assign public ip address? is that correct? | 14:17 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: technically he is more of a superadmin and he should do anything | 14:18 |
| koolhead17 | but if does not happen. i spend many hours figuring | 14:18 |
| gnu111 | I need a role that can create instances and assign public addresses but cannot see or terminate other's instances. | 14:18 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: nova-manage user admin newuser | 14:19 |
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| koolhead17 | i gave him this permission | 14:20 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: but admin can terminate all instances. I don't want someone accidentally terminating instance. | 14:20 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: try assigning the user netadmin role and see if it works | 14:21 |
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| koolhead17 | i will spend sometime again on RBAC later tonight | 14:22 |
| uksysadmin | cheers kbringard - was thinking if anyone knows Ubuntu soren might... its just something I'm hearing more of recently (very recently)... people are teasing me with juju and OpenStack | 14:22 |
| kbringard | yea, I'm interested as well | 14:23 |
| kbringard | I'm all about automating deploys in a sane way | 14:23 |
| koolhead17 | uksysadmin: sir!! | 14:23 |
| kbringard | deploys and config management | 14:23 |
| * koolhead17 finds uksysadmin after ages | 14:23 | |
| kbringard | koolhead17: you know Britain isn't in control anymore, you don't have to call him sir ;-) | 14:23 |
| uksysadmin | I've been playing with Dell's Crowbar... its clunky and does work to some degree. chatting to them next week about it. | 14:23 |
| kbringard | uksysadmin: oh yea? I've been trying to get it running as well | 14:24 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: :D | 14:24 |
| uksysadmin | I'm used to being call allsorts, mainly by the wife though and it isn't usually so polite. | 14:24 |
| kbringard | the problem I've run into is that none of my machines have optical drives | 14:24 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: uksysadmin was the first guy who helped me when i entered this channel for first time :) | 14:24 |
| kbringard | and installing from remote using the iLO is a PITA | 14:24 |
| Vadim | what nova_ajax_proxy do | 14:25 |
| koolhead17 | thats why that extra "sir" :D | 14:25 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: nice, uksysadmin is a nice and useful guy | 14:25 |
| uksysadmin | kbringard, for the initial load of crowbar (as it creates an ISO) - I've heard they're possibly making the system available via apt-get equivalent so that you can install your OS in your usual manner and then end up with Crowbar | 14:25 |
| kbringard | uksysadmin: the other problem I had is that it doesn't seem to have the drivers for my disk controller, so it tells me there is no root drive when i finally do get it booted | 14:25 |
| kbringard | that would be super nice | 14:25 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: his blog on openstack on virtualbox is most visited one :) | 14:26 |
| uksysadmin | I've time in a couple of weeks with a test kit to try this in the datacentre. so far, my virtualbox install grinds to a halt with it | 14:26 |
| uksysadmin | Disclaimer: I don't employ koolhead17 as a PR assistant, but the jobs there if you want it ;-) | 14:26 |
| kbringard | then you're not relying on the necessary drivers for your hardware being in their ISO | 14:27 |
| kbringard | or worrying about trying to custom build it yourself | 14:27 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: netadmin role didn't work. "This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested" | 14:27 |
| gnu111 | I guess I have to make everyone an admin! :D | 14:27 |
| * koolhead17 kicks uksysadmin :) | 14:28 | |
| koolhead17 | :P | 14:28 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: see thats what i told u | 14:28 |
| kbringard | gnu111: what are you trying to do? | 14:28 |
| gnu111 | I just need a user that can create instances and assign ip address but only his/her instances. | 14:29 |
| uksysadmin | it is a ball-ache to do the building and packaging. I can see why they do it for flexibility, but I'd feel more confident downloading a pre-tested certified and tested ISO for installation than pulling from github, etc.. although, hats off to Rob Hirschfeld and the team for getting this far. | 14:29 |
| uksysadmin | certified ISOs come with their Dell kit | 14:29 |
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| gnu111 | kbringard: I think admin user can terminate all other's instances as well. I would like to avoid that. | 14:29 |
| kbringard | yea, that's bad | 14:30 |
| kbringard | gnu111: giving people sysadmin and netadmin works for that for me | 14:30 |
| kbringard | are you sure you assigned it right? | 14:30 |
| kbringard | you have to assign it globally and on a project level | 14:30 |
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| uksysadmin | Orchestra is a direct equivalent to Crowbar (to the extent that I need for OpenStack) - and its an apt-get install one-liner... far more friendly. | 14:31 |
| kbringard | so like, nova-manage role add netadmin user | 14:31 |
| kbringard | nova-manage role add netadmin user project | 14:31 |
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| gnu111 | I think netadmina and sysadmin like this: nova-manage role add testuser netadmin projectname | 14:31 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: you mean a user have to b global netadmin and local netadmin too in order to use his/her role | 14:31 |
| kbringard | that could be it, I don't remember the order | 14:31 |
| kbringard | yea | 14:31 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: command looks fine | 14:31 |
| kbringard | the idea is that you can revoke the global role and you get all the project roles | 14:31 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: so in in that case even the user is a netadmin he is not going to do any work since globally he is not mapped to netadmin role | 14:32 |
| kbringard | probably, yes | 14:32 |
| koolhead17 | so its kind of intersectionof local/global roles | 14:32 |
| kbringard | yep | 14:33 |
| * gnu111 is confused about roles :( | 14:33 | |
| kbringard | both have to be true | 14:33 |
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| kbringard | gnu111: if you look in the db | 14:33 |
| kbringard | you'll see a few tables related to roles | 14:33 |
| gnu111 | ah, yes, that's a good idea. thanks! | 14:33 |
| slyphon | anyone in here from HP cloud? | 14:33 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: yes there are 3 tables | 14:33 |
| Razique | hey all | 14:34 |
| gnu111 | user_project_role_association | 14:34 |
| kbringard | yea, that's the project by project basis | 14:34 |
| Razique | anyone knows how could I have a this : http://paste.openstack.org/show/2684/ | 14:34 |
| kbringard | that's the one they get added to if you add a project to the nova-manage role add command | 14:34 |
| Razique | while the scheduler is running on the same erver | 14:34 |
| livemoon | hi | 14:34 |
| kbringard | then there is user_role_association | 14:34 |
| kbringard | which is the global one | 14:34 |
| Razique | hey kbringard :) | 14:34 |
| kbringard | they have to be in both | 14:34 |
| Razique | hey livemoon | 14:34 |
| kbringard | hey Razique | 14:34 |
| livemoon | do you use keystone? | 14:34 |
| livemoon | or just nova project role? | 14:35 |
| nethoopty | swift question: can I use staticweb with swauth? | 14:35 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: aah so basically any role will work only when its intersection of local/global role? | 14:35 |
| kbringard | should yes | 14:35 |
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| livemoon | koolhead17, kbringard : are you talk about role? | 14:36 |
| livemoon | You don't use keystone, don't you? | 14:36 |
| kbringard | livemoon: yea | 14:36 |
| kbringard | no, I don't currently use keystone | 14:37 |
| kbringard | I'm in the process of getting it setup, though | 14:37 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: grrrr. u coould have told me about it yesterday. :( i spent so many hours without any issed | 14:37 |
| kbringard | sorry dude, I didn't know you were having a problem :-) | 14:37 |
| livemoon | do you have some good way to store data? | 14:37 |
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| kbringard | I was busy yesterday, didn't pay much attention to IRC :-/ | 14:37 |
| * koolhead17 kicks kbringard again :P | 14:38 | |
| kbringard | hehe | 14:38 |
| livemoon | you are so cute all | 14:38 |
| livemoon | do you have some good way to store data? | 14:38 |
| livemoon | ceph or drbd or something else? | 14:39 |
| slyphon | so, does anyone run swift on something besides XFS? | 14:39 |
| slyphon | XFS scares the piss outta me | 14:40 |
| gnu111 | Razique: check the services table. I think nova-manage queries that. | 14:40 |
| Razique | gnu111: I figured out | 14:40 |
| Razique | I had two entries :) | 14:40 |
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| Razique | the first one was ok, the last one were wrong I just removed it :) | 14:40 |
| Razique | thanks ! | 14:40 |
| gnu111 | cool! | 14:40 |
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| koolhead17 | Razique: hola | 14:42 |
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| Razique | hey koolhead17 :) | 14:42 |
| Razique | Ok, I just finished to create my openstack preproduction | 14:42 |
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| Razique | time for me to test everything ! | 14:42 |
| Razique | first Cactus to Diablo upgrade :D | 14:42 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: let me know if it works as kbringard mentioned | 14:43 |
| kbringard | Razique: my experience was that it wasn't too bad, so long as you have a working diablo install to reference for the configuration changes | 14:43 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: ok. I will try it. | 14:44 |
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| slyphon | anyone know if there's a swift-specific mailing list? | 14:45 |
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| Razique | kbringard: oh, great, I read the doc were updated lately | 14:46 |
| livemoon | Razique : waiting your doc | 14:46 |
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| Razique | I'll update it if I encounter anny issues | 14:46 |
| Razique | :) | 14:46 |
| livemoon | have you some experience in data store? | 14:47 |
| Razique | livemoon: me ? :D | 14:47 |
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| livemoon | you are all my teacher | 14:47 |
| Razique | :D | 14:47 |
| Razique | glad to | 14:47 |
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| dxd | hey, after an install on a single box of openstack node/dash/controller but at the dash screen im getting this error: Error authenticating with keystone: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'makefile' | 14:48 |
| dxd | any ideas? | 14:48 |
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| livemoon | I think you are more advance than me | 14:48 |
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| livemoon | I want to use ceph, but no related doc. | 14:50 |
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| dxd | why time of day does this channel usually get busy? | 14:52 |
| jtanner | random times, mostly US business hours | 14:52 |
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| BasTichelaar | slyphon: why does it scare you? | 14:55 |
| BasTichelaar | slyphon: XFS I mean | 14:55 |
| slyphon | BasTichelaar: because of all of the issues around write caching | 14:55 |
| slyphon | it's like the C++ of filesystems | 14:55 |
| BasTichelaar | slyphon: hmm, didnt have much troubles | 14:55 |
| livemoon | good night，my friend | 14:56 |
| slyphon | BasTichelaar: what kind of storage are you deploying it on? | 14:56 |
| BasTichelaar | livemoon: ceph is still pretty alpha | 14:56 |
| kbringard | so who here has keystone working? | 14:56 |
| BasTichelaar | slyphon: for now local storage | 14:56 |
| slyphon | are you sure that if you have a crash that your data isn't corrupted? | 14:56 |
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| livemoon | BasTichelaar : Is there any other such as ceph to store data? | 14:56 |
| BasTichelaar | livemoon: what are your requirements? | 14:57 |
| slyphon | BasTichelaar: in my tests w/ SAIO (early on) i was able to get the kernel to panic using XFS | 14:57 |
| BasTichelaar | slyphon: not that Im aware of, but I only used regular disks, not a SAN | 14:57 |
| slyphon | and not doing anything too exotic | 14:57 |
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| slyphon | BasTichelaar: yeah, but that's even worse if you're using "nobarrier" when you're mounting | 14:57 |
| livemoon | BasTichelaar : give volume to vm mounted | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | slyphon: true, but I used XFS without much troubles for years | 14:58 |
| slyphon | http://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_What_is_the_problem_with_the_write_cache_on_journaled_filesystems.3F | 14:58 |
| livemoon | BasTichelaar : user data store on volume | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | livemoon: look at sheepdog | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | livemoon: more mature than ceph | 14:58 |
| BasTichelaar | ceph is still really alpha | 14:58 |
| livemoon | sheepdog just do like HA | 14:59 |
| BasTichelaar | tested it and experienced a lot of crashes | 14:59 |
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| livemoon | I need something like amazon's ebs | 14:59 |
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| kbringard | dreamhost is dumping a ton of resources into Ceph, so hopefully it'll mature quickly | 15:00 |
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| Razique | livemoon: I'll be happy to run some tests if you want to | 15:01 |
| Razique | I'm planning to work on diablo's HA mechanisms | 15:01 |
| Razique | that'll involve a lot of tech. studies | 15:01 |
| livemoon | Razique : do you have some doc to me? | 15:01 |
| Razique | not atm, sorry :/ | 15:01 |
| livemoon | diablo HA? | 15:01 |
| Razique | High Availablity | 15:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #872899 in nova "VMs cannot be terminated if compute host is dead" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872899 | 15:01 |
| livemoon | give me some info about diablo HA | 15:02 |
| Razique | regarding for instance storage | 15:02 |
| Razique | well, Diablo implements a lot of great features | 15:02 |
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| Razique | Instance migration, KVM Block migration support Support for Virtual Storage Arrays | 15:03 |
| Razique | :D | 15:03 |
| livemoon | Razique : give me links | 15:03 |
| Razique | livemoon: I haven't tested it yet, I'm still using Cactus in production | 15:03 |
| livemoon | I konw, where do you see that features? | 15:03 |
| Razique | the doc is not very up to date for those parts yet I guess | 15:04 |
| Razique | I read them on the release note page | 15:04 |
| Razique | but I don't master the usage yet, haven't read that much about the way the features work | 15:05 |
| livemoon | ok | 15:05 |
| livemoon | It is too late . I must go to bed | 15:05 |
| Razique | ok, i'll let you know if I find something interesting ;) | 15:06 |
| Razique | cya man | 15:06 |
| livemoon | bye, all | 15:07 |
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| royh | i have a dhcp-server on the LAN. any way i can get the VMs to use the IP-address from that server? | 15:10 |
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| Razique | royh: sure :) by using the flat mode | 15:16 |
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| royh | Razique: magic method is to put --network_manager = nova.network.manager.FlatManager in nova.conf right? | 15:19 |
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| Razique | yup :) | 15:21 |
| Razique | check this : http://docs.openstack.org/cactus/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-networking.html | 15:21 |
| royh | thanks :) | 15:21 |
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| doude | Hi all. Who use keystone+Glance with the last release diablo ? | 15:21 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872917 in nova "EC2 get_metadata fails with InstanceNotFound" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872917 | 15:32 |
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| royh | Razique: how do i set that up with nova-manage network? | 15:40 |
| royh | Razique: i deleted the 10.0.0.0/24 network i had set up before, but now I'm getting "RemoteError: NoMoreNetworks None" | 15:40 |
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| Razique | what nova-manage network list | 15:46 |
| Razique | gives* | 15:46 |
| kbringard | the networks defined for nova to use | 15:46 |
| royh | no networks | 15:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #872930 in keystone "adminURL shows up in XML output, not JSON, in endpoints listing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872930 | 15:46 |
| royh | Razique: i deleted it (since it was the wrong ips) | 15:47 |
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| deshantm_laptop | I heard there was a session at the design summit about introducing pools (e.g. XenServer pools) to OpenStack.. does anyway recall that discussion/session? | 15:48 |
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| deshantm_laptop | Basically I'm trying to figure out the status and who is working on it | 15:49 |
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| royh | so what is the right way of setting up a network with nova-manage with flat networking? | 15:53 |
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| annegentle | royh: the nova side is pretty simple, see http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-networking.html, but integrating with YOUR network may be more complex | 15:59 |
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| annegentle | basically the nova-manage network create command populates the database | 16:00 |
| annegentle | so you may need to work in the database at this point | 16:00 |
| royh | annegentle: that i figured. so should it just be left with nothing in there? | 16:00 |
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| annegentle | royh: there's also http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/removing-network-from-project.html | 16:00 |
| royh | annegentle: i've done that | 16:01 |
| annegentle | for removing a project and disassociating the network | 16:01 |
| royh | the vm's come up now, but they don't get an ip | 16:01 |
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| royh | that is, euca-describe-instances doesn't give them any | 16:01 |
| royh | s/doesn't give them any/doesn't show any/ | 16:01 |
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| annegentle | royh: hm, sorry that's the limit of my troubleshooting - though describe just describes, you need euca-associate-address or euca-allocate-address for IP addresses | 16:03 |
| annegentle | apologies, must go to a meeting | 16:03 |
| nati2 | ping jaypipes | 16:03 |
| royh | annegentle: thanks for the help. i'll continue playing around with it | 16:04 |
| jaypipes | nati2: coming... | 16:04 |
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| Razique | royh: so you have a network onto ur project ? | 16:06 |
| kbringard | do cloudpipes work in any network mode other than VLAN? | 16:07 |
| kbringard | I can't imaging how it would, since there is no logical subnet separation in Flat/FlatDHCP | 16:08 |
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| Razique | mm hard to tell | 16:08 |
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| kbringard | yea, I mean, you could bring up a VPN server in each project | 16:13 |
| kbringard | but I don't think the cloudpipe automatic mechanisms would work | 16:13 |
| Razique | quite sure it won't yah | 16:14 |
| Razique | does cloudpipe works per project or per network ? | 16:14 |
| kbringard | per project | 16:14 |
| Razique | ok, | 16:14 |
| kbringard | you could bring up VPN servers in your projects, but you'd have to setup your configs "manually" | 16:14 |
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| kbringard | you can't just nova-manage vpn start | 16:15 |
| Razique | that would be cool though | 16:17 |
| Razique | have u ever used cloudpipe ? | 16:17 |
| kbringard | yea, it works great | 16:17 |
| kbringard | but, I've only used it in VLAN | 16:17 |
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| Razique | ok, I myself use vlan mode only :/ | 16:20 |
| kbringard | yea, I usually do, but we're testing other ideas for scalability | 16:22 |
| Razique | Since I installed my lab from production, I've this error in glan ce | 16:22 |
| Razique | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2688/ | 16:22 |
| Razique | while the compute node is able to retrieve the image | 16:23 |
| Razique | I mean if I run the wget manuall | 16:23 |
| Razique | y | 16:23 |
| rmk | I've been unable to get the nova command line tools to work using keystone auth credentials. Has anyone had success with this? | 16:23 |
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| Razique | GET /v1/images/92, that URI doesn't exist, while GET /images/92 does :/ | 16:23 |
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| Razique | ok I figured out, it's a python-glance version issue | 16:28 |
| Razique | needed to downgrade from python-glance_2011.3~d4 to python-glance_2011.2~bzr114 | 16:29 |
| Razique | :) | 16:29 |
| GavinB_ | In my log files I am seeing messages like "ERROR: nova.api [<id info>] ApiError: Instance has not acquired the private IP address yet". Can this be ignored - i.e. will the system keep trying until it succeeds, or does this indicate a real problem ? | 16:32 |
| Razique | GavinB: which is the version you are using ? | 16:32 |
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| GavinB_ | Razique: Diablo-2 | 16:33 |
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| Razique | GavinB_: when you check for the instance, does it have an IP or no ? | 16:35 |
| Razique | not* | 16:35 |
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| GavinB_ | Razique: Difficult to say - it's a large shared system and it's not one of mine. I'm just trawling logs. We do see issues with VMs starting up, but I suspect this is not a real error - just a "try again" - but would like to be sure. | 16:36 |
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| Razique | I've looked in the web, it seems like nobody has ever referenced that issue yet | 16:37 |
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| GavinB_ | Razique: OK thanks. I'll investigate a bit more | 16:38 |
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| Razique | let us know if you find more about that | 16:38 |
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| Razique | :) | 16:38 |
| GavinB_ | will do | 16:38 |
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| hitesh | Hello friends | 16:43 |
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| Razique | hey hey :) | 16:43 |
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| Pr0toc0l | hello all... | 16:52 |
| Pr0toc0l | question | 16:52 |
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| Pr0toc0l | has anyone setup a multiclusterzone before? | 16:52 |
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| Pr0toc0l | if so, can you point me to some docs that i can see how to set it up | 16:53 |
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| crussell | Hi again all, first ty for the advice the other day.. it got my first single stack server up and running | 16:54 |
| crussell | Question: Networking is configuring on an instances with the exception of DNS. Anyway to inject this also. I'm using straight flat networking for now with no dhcp | 16:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #872971 in nova "nova-api.log should not be logging bad input as ERROR" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872971 | 17:02 |
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| kbringard | can anyone point me in the direction of how to setup endpointTemplates in keystone? | 17:09 |
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| kbringard | if I'm just going to use the existing nova user store with keystone, I don't need to create new users with keystone-manage, right? | 17:13 |
| kbringard | I just need to setup the endpoints properly and it'll tokenize based on what's in the users table? | 17:13 |
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| B-Wong | Morning people | 17:18 |
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| crussell | Question: Networking is configuring on an instances with the exception of DNS. Anyway to inject this also. I'm using straight flat networking for now with no dhcp | 17:23 |
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| deshantm_laptop | I did end up finding the spec on pools: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/host-aggregates | 17:24 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #872982 in keystone "keystone-manage sends an error message after db_sync" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/872982 | 17:26 |
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| tzn | kbringard: what problem do you need with templates? | 17:40 |
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| kbringard | I don't really understand how they tie together, or what each field is | 17:41 |
| tzn | did you see sample data? | 17:41 |
| kbringard | yea, but it's not commented | 17:41 |
| tzn | what service do you need? | 17:42 |
| kbringard | well, let me take a step back | 17:42 |
| kbringard | should we not use keystone-manage to add endPoints anymore? | 17:42 |
| kbringard | should I do it using the keystone.manage class? | 17:42 |
| tzn | hmm, noty sure what you mean by class | 17:42 |
| kbringard | well, before, there was a sampledata.sh script | 17:42 |
| kbringard | that called keystone-manage | 17:43 |
| tzn | there is sampledata.py now | 17:43 |
| kbringard | to add tenants, etc | 17:43 |
| kbringard | right, which uses the keystone.manage class | 17:43 |
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| tzn | yes, but you are not programmer, right? | 17:43 |
| tzn | you want to set up your tenants, users, etc? | 17:43 |
| kbringard | well, I'm both Dev and Ops, but I'm just trying to understand how to setup keystone so I can effectively administer it | 17:44 |
| tzn | so you can load up sample data just for reference | 17:44 |
| kbringard | but yes, I want to setup my tenants and users | 17:44 |
| tzn | and edit required fileds in database | 17:44 |
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| tzn | so there is no need to use python classes, | 17:45 |
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| tzn | they are for, uhmm, developers | 17:45 |
| tzn | of openstack really | 17:45 |
| tzn | unless you are developing independant way of administering keystone | 17:45 |
| kbringard | naw, that's part of what I don't understand | 17:46 |
| kbringard | other than templates, do I need to add anything to keystone? | 17:46 |
| kbringard | since I Have existing openstack users/projects/etc setup already | 17:46 |
| tzn | usually you have public url (which is something that might be terminated on load balancer), admin url and internal url | 17:46 |
| kbringard | so I guess i'd need to add tenants that map to the projects I have | 17:46 |
| kbringard | that's part of what I don't get | 17:47 |
| kbringard | what do I need to put into Keystone, and what will it use from my existing nova setup | 17:47 |
| tzn | what I understand, you should use keystone form the beggining | 17:47 |
| tzn | it will become you only auth source | 17:48 |
| kbringard | yea, but I have an existing setup that was running cactus that I have upgraded to diablo | 17:48 |
| kbringard | if the upgrade path is "Start over" that doesn't seem right :-D | 17:48 |
| tzn | i never managed to get old users from swift work with keystone | 17:48 |
| tzn | you might migrate them with the same names | 17:48 |
| tzn | wait a sec, Ill take a look at nova | 17:48 |
| tzn | do you have your nova configs handy? | 17:49 |
| kbringard | so then, back to the other question… if I want to add users I need to do it via keystone, which means I either need to use keystone manage, or use the keystone.manager class and create a frontend | 17:49 |
| tzn | not jeystone.manage.class, never | 17:49 |
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| tzn | use dashboard or keystone-manage | 17:49 |
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| tzn | i'm not on vpn, so i cannot take o look at nova configs | 17:50 |
| tzn | what is your pipeline in nova now? | 17:50 |
| kbringard | right now I'm using deprecated auth with the old pipeline | 17:50 |
| tzn | say [pipeline:openstackapi10] | 17:51 |
| kbringard | --use_deprecated_auth=true in my nova.conf | 17:51 |
| kbringard | and | 17:51 |
| kbringard | pipeline = logrequest authenticate cloudrequest authorizer ec2executor | 17:51 |
| kbringard | in the api-paste | 17:51 |
| rmk | Are you guys talking about nova and keystone? I can't auth for the life of me. | 17:51 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: did you try it | 17:51 |
| tzn | so, it will not work | 17:51 |
| rmk | Dashboard works fine, so I know my keystone instance is correct. | 17:51 |
| kbringard | I know it won't work, because I don't have keystone setup yet :-) | 17:52 |
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| koolhead17 | kbringard: even you have not tried keystone? | 17:52 |
| tzn | i don't know wheter you can have 2 auth sources in pipeline, not in swift | 17:52 |
| tzn | i'm assuming it's the same in nova | 17:52 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: I setup keystone a long time ago, back at like diablo-1 | 17:52 |
| kbringard | but I never really used it | 17:52 |
| kbringard | tzn: sure, I'm going to change it | 17:52 |
| tzn | no, I mean if you put both old and keystone method | 17:53 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: the user didn't show up in the user_role_association table. So might have done something wrong. | 17:53 |
| koolhead17 | kbringard: O:-) | 17:53 |
| kbringard | but, for now I'm just trying to key keystone setup | 17:53 |
| kbringard | I'm not even trying to auth with nova yet | 17:53 |
| tzn | it's possible, believe me ;) | 17:53 |
| kbringard | I do believe you | 17:53 |
| kbringard | OK, let me start over | 17:53 |
| tzn | I just did it yesterday, and hooked up swift today | 17:53 |
| kbringard | when I set this up before | 17:53 |
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| kbringard | I used all the sampledata | 17:53 |
| tzn | right | 17:53 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: what command u executed tell me | 17:54 |
| kbringard | but, hitting keystone with curl I could get tokens for existing users | 17:54 |
| tzn | good | 17:54 |
| kbringard | users that I didn't add with the sample data | 17:54 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2690/ | 17:54 |
| kbringard | so, what I'm trying to do now is | 17:54 |
| tzn | so you migrated users to keystone, right? | 17:54 |
| kbringard | get this all setup again | 17:54 |
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| kbringard | no, I didn't do anything to users | 17:54 |
| kbringard | they just worked | 17:54 |
| tzn | how keystone could ever know about you nova users? | 17:55 |
| kbringard | so, I'm trying to get this setup to do the same thing, but without creating all the dummy data that sampledata puts in there | 17:55 |
| kbringard | that's a good question | 17:55 |
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| tzn | was it hooked up to nova? | 17:55 |
| kbringard | that I don't remember, but I guess it would have to be, right? | 17:56 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: nova-manage role add test netadmin myproject | 17:56 |
| kbringard | either way, lets take a step back | 17:56 |
| koolhead17 | add this as well | 17:56 |
| tzn | that would be some hint | 17:56 |
| kbringard | lets pretend we're doing this from scratch | 17:56 |
| tzn | kk | 17:56 |
| kbringard | you would install keystone and then run the sampledata? | 17:56 |
| kbringard | and leave the nova pipeline to the keystone one, and not the deprecated auth one, right? | 17:56 |
| tzn | yes | 17:57 |
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| rmk | kbringard: The samepledata is completely wrong. | 17:57 |
| tzn | you don't really neeed all the sample data | 17:57 |
| kbringard | tzn: OK, that's what I'm driving at here… what data do I actually need? | 17:57 |
| rmk | Need to be really careful about keystone here. Even the latest install guide is wrong. | 17:57 |
| kbringard | rmk: yea, I'm kind of finding that | 17:57 |
| rmk | Actually the best way to seed the data is in the cloudbuilders scripts. | 17:58 |
| kbringard | I'm trying to get a definitive working solution so I can better document it | 17:58 |
| tzn | what you need is regions with services, services, token for tech user and endpint assiciated wuth tenatns | 17:58 |
| tzn | take a look here http://paste.openstack.org/show/2479/ | 17:58 |
| rmk | Let's take a step back here. When keystone gets installed, you get an empty datanbase. | 17:58 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: creating a new user. hang on a sec. | 17:58 |
| rmk | The proper way to get it seeded is by using keystone-manage | 17:58 |
| koolhead17 | cool | 17:59 |
| tzn | that's basically what sampledata does | 17:59 |
| kbringard | rmk: right, I'm trying to figure out what I need in there | 17:59 |
| rmk | https://github.com/cloudbuilders/deploy.sh/blob/master/initial_data.sh | 17:59 |
| rmk | Take a look at that. | 17:59 |
| kbringard | I get users, and tenants | 18:00 |
| tzn | ports are all wrong, be warned | 18:00 |
| kbringard | I don't entirely understand the endpointTemplates | 18:00 |
| kbringard | yea, the admin port changed from 5001 to like, 352123213` or something | 18:00 |
| rmk | kbringard: endpoint templates are just a fancy way of saying URLs for services | 18:00 |
| tzn | rmk's sript is even better | 18:00 |
| tzn | no rubbish ;) | 18:00 |
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| kbringard | rmk: cool, makes sense… but there is some other stuff too, like, external, internal and admin (which I get) but then there are some 0's and 1's | 18:01 |
| kbringard | global services or something | 18:01 |
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| rmk | Enablement status and global or not | 18:02 |
| kbringard | ok, the global status I don't understand | 18:02 |
| kbringard | in the defaults everything is 0 except identity | 18:02 |
| rmk | I don't completely understand it either yet | 18:02 |
| rmk | I set everything global myself | 18:02 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: ok, created a new use. It shows up in both tables now. But can't create an instance. | 18:02 |
| rmk | There are a few very confusing elements here.. | 18:02 |
| kbringard | it's also confusing the way you assign endpoints via the template's ID | 18:03 |
| rmk | The token used by the dashboard itself, needs to be mapped to a user which does NOT have a tenant associated | 18:03 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: euca-describe-instances and images work. | 18:03 |
| tzn | that script is not good for production evn though | 18:03 |
| rmk | However, the user with which you login needs to have at least one tenant associated | 18:03 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: which role is it | 18:03 |
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| gnu111 | netadmin | 18:04 |
| rmk | I spent almost all of yesterday figuring this out and it's not documented anywhere | 18:04 |
| rmk | I'd be shocked if people are actually using keystone | 18:05 |
| kbringard | that's the static token, right? | 18:05 |
| rmk | Yes | 18:05 |
| kbringard | $BIN_DIR/keystone-manage $* token add 999888777666 admin admin 2015-02-05T00:00 | 18:05 |
| kbringard | like that, except not admin | 18:05 |
| rmk | correct | 18:05 |
| tzn | yes | 18:05 |
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| kbringard | OK, so lets pretend I get this all setup and working | 18:05 |
| rmk | That's the token you use for the static dashboard, nova and glance configs | 18:05 |
| rmk | Despite being as far as I am, I still can't use 'nova' | 18:05 |
| kbringard | if I want to create a new project, I create it like I always did, via the nova-manage project add command | 18:06 |
| kbringard | and because it's all tied into keystone it'll do what it needs to do to make it work? | 18:06 |
| rmk | kbringard: Heh I know where you're going -- absolutely no idea | 18:06 |
| rmk | And not documented | 18:06 |
| kbringard | same with users? | 18:06 |
| rmk | Basically you want to know how keystone changes operational workflows | 18:06 |
| kbringard | or do I have to add them via keystone? | 18:06 |
| kbringard | rmk: yea, mostly because it helps me understand how it all works :-) | 18:06 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: so as kbringard told us earlier a users need to have intersection between permission | 18:06 |
| tzn | I would add them in keystone | 18:06 |
| rmk | kbringard: They are great questions that I have also | 18:07 |
| koolhead17 | netadmin is supposed to do that only i suppose isn`t it? | 18:07 |
| rmk | tzn: Users yes, not enough for projects | 18:07 |
| tzn | at least thats how ti work in swift | 18:07 |
| rmk | Keystone isn't as integrated as one would think | 18:07 |
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| gnu111 | koolhead17: I am trying sysadmin now. | 18:07 |
| rmk | I really wish a developer would share how to use nova with keystone | 18:07 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: any idea how to test that IP Assigning stuff | 18:08 |
| tzn | i will crawl through the source code and see | 18:08 |
| rmk | tzn: That's unfortunately what I've had to resort to as well, it's less than ideal | 18:08 |
| tzn | we are starting integration with nova tomorrow | 18:08 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: do you mean with a non-admin user? | 18:08 |
| tzn | yeah, unfortunately | 18:08 |
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| rmk | It's completely unclear how keystone users map to nova projects. | 18:09 |
| rmk | Tenants -> projects rather. | 18:09 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: netadmin is supposed to maintain the network related stuff, isn`t it? | 18:09 |
| rmk | How is ownership associated between the two | 18:09 |
| tzn | even python is sometimes confisung, especially when you dont have a big picture | 18:09 |
| kbringard | rmk: yea, tenants are projects | 18:09 |
| kbringard | koolhead17: yes | 18:09 |
| rmk | kbringard: Right but the mapping in keystone to nova isn't clear | 18:09 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: Yes, that's what I thought as well. | 18:09 |
| rmk | As in, how do I assign a nova project to a keystone user/tenant. | 18:09 |
| rmk | Or how is that association made | 18:09 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: but it can't even create an instance to begin with. | 18:10 |
| kbringard | rmk: right, exactly | 18:10 |
| kbringard | I think that's done here: | 18:10 |
| kbringard | $BIN_DIR/keystone-manage $* user add demo secrete demo | 18:10 |
| kbringard | you've created the "demo" tenant (aka project) and are then creating a user called demo with the password secrete in the tenant demo | 18:11 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: but netadmin is not supposed to create an instance, isn`t it | 18:11 |
| rmk | Naming users and tenants the same is such a horrible example btw. | 18:11 |
| rmk | It just makes it more confusing. :) | 18:11 |
| rmk | That script does it and made me want to pull my hair out. | 18:11 |
| tzn | ;) | 18:11 |
| tzn | at least roles are uppercase ;) | 18:11 |
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| gnu111 | koolhead17: ok let me create an instance with another user and see if netadmin can assign ip. | 18:12 |
| rmk | tzn: The thing is roles should just be created when the database is created. | 18:12 |
| B-Wong | Hi, I am lost as to why I am not authorize to do euca-authorize -P icmp -t -1:-1 default Here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2692/ | 18:12 |
| kbringard | so I guess for a test environment I should drop my nova dbs and recreate everything with keystone | 18:12 |
| tzn | correct | 18:12 |
| rmk | Member, Admin and KeystoneServiceAdmin should just be created -- those are hard coded into keystone anyway. | 18:12 |
| rmk | So why don't they exist out of the box. | 18:12 |
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| rmk | Same with many of the "services" | 18:12 |
| rmk | kbringard: That's what I am planning to try now | 18:13 |
| kbringard | yea, which comes back to my original question about the endpoint templates | 18:13 |
| kbringard | so I guess you need to create the template | 18:13 |
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| kbringard | then see what each template's ID is inthe DB | 18:13 |
| rmk | kbringard: I have a keystone tenant which has the same name as my nova project, but dashboard isn't associating the two as a single entity. | 18:13 |
| kbringard | then assign each to a project? | 18:13 |
| kbringard | aka: tenant | 18:13 |
| rmk | Which is why I am not sure how the mapping occurs. | 18:13 |
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| rmk | Yes, create templates, associated templates to a tenant. | 18:14 |
| rmk | associate* | 18:14 |
| tzn | did you try to set up project in nova after the tenant was created in keystone? | 18:14 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: ok. worked. I created an instance with an admin user. netadmin user was able to assign ip to that instance. | 18:14 |
| rmk | tzn: Haven't done that yet | 18:14 |
| rmk | I'm going to blow away my nova db now | 18:14 |
| tzn | ok, im curious to see that | 18:14 |
| rmk | And just start with keystone | 18:14 |
| koolhead17 | gnu111: what command you executed for netadmin to assign ip | 18:14 |
| * koolhead17 is scratching his head :P | 18:14 | |
| tzn | i might try with devstack, that seem to work | 18:14 |
| tzn | and get data out of it | 18:15 |
| tzn | and compare configs nad dbs | 18:15 |
| gnu111 | koolhead17: euca-associate-address -i <instance_id> <public_ip> | 18:15 |
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| rmk | kbringard: I've been spending a lot of time just looking at the raw sql tables. | 18:15 |
| rmk | keystone-manage isn't documented and doesn't have help commands like other tools do. | 18:16 |
| tzn | yes, and it's terrible | 18:16 |
| tzn | ;) | 18:16 |
| kbringard | heh, yea… I was having problems even getting keystone to populate it's DB | 18:16 |
| kbringard | db_sync didn't seem to be working | 18:16 |
| tzn | db_sync is sqlalchemy command | 18:16 |
| rmk | kbringard: Oh yeah, just start it and it'll create the db. | 18:16 |
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| rmk | Docs are wrong for that too. | 18:17 |
| tzn | ikeystone-manage creates tables after firs launch | 18:17 |
| kbringard | yea, but what happened to me was, I had tried to install from the packages, which didn't work right, so then I installed from source | 18:17 |
| kbringard | and the schema didn't update properly | 18:17 |
| tzn | ok | 18:17 |
| rmk | I've been fighting with keystone for a day so I am a bit frustrated with it at the moment. :) | 18:17 |
| rmk | It probably shows. | 18:17 |
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| tzn | it installs form packages on natty for me | 18:17 |
| kbringard | haha | 18:17 |
| rmk | It's not so much keystone itself actually. | 18:17 |
| kbringard | hmmmm, I'm on maverick | 18:17 |
| rmk | It's the integration of it with all the various components. | 18:18 |
| tzn | lads, good luck | 18:19 |
| tzn | im going home ;) | 18:19 |
| tzn | bye | 18:19 |
| kbringard | thanks tzn | 18:19 |
| tzn | will be back later | 18:19 |
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| rmk | kbringard: I can share my db with you if you want to see one which mostly works. | 18:19 |
| kbringard | thanks, I think I'm OK | 18:20 |
| kbringard | I'm going to drop both the nova-db and the keystone db | 18:20 |
| rmk | Probably a good idea. | 18:20 |
| kbringard | then recreate and try some stuff, see if I can figure out how this works | 18:20 |
| rmk | Think I'll do the same. | 18:20 |
| rmk | I remember a mention of keystone middleware being removed from the ubuntu nova packages. | 18:20 |
| rmk | Which could be why nova authentication isn't working for me. | 18:20 |
| kbringard | hmmm, could be | 18:21 |
| kbringard | check the api-paste | 18:21 |
| B-Wong | anyone want to help me with this quick authorization error? | 18:22 |
| kbringard | mine has lines like | 18:22 |
| kbringard | pipeline = logrequest ec2noauth cloudrequest authorizer ec2executor | 18:22 |
| kbringard | # NOTE(vish): use the following pipeline for deprecated auth | 18:22 |
| kbringard | #pipeline = logrequest authenticate cloudrequest authorizer ec2executor | 18:22 |
| rmk | Well I grabbed api-paste from keystone itself. | 18:22 |
| kbringard | so perhaps the just commented out the non-deprecated ones | 18:22 |
| kbringard | I've not looked at the code in a couple weeks, so I don't know how that was resolved | 18:22 |
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| B-Wong | authorization problem with euca-authorize, what type of creds does euca-athorize look for? | 18:28 |
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| gnu111 | B-Wong: what command are you trying and the error message? | 18:32 |
| B-Wong | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2692/ | 18:32 |
| B-Wong | euca-authorize -P imcp -t -1:-1 default | 18:33 |
| B-Wong | i never had this problem with my previous vm | 18:33 |
| B-Wong | its weird that it just popped out of nowhere. | 18:33 |
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| gnu111 | B-Wong: can you run euca-describe-availability-zones fine? | 18:39 |
| tzn | kbringard: look here | 18:40 |
| tzn | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/bin/keystone-import | 18:40 |
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| tzn | as for importing stuff from nova | 18:41 |
| B-Wong | gnu111: [root@bwong05 ~]# euca-describe-availability-zones AVAILABILITYZONE nova available | 18:41 |
| kbringard | tzn: yea, I came across that yesterday, but wasn't really sure how to export from nova | 18:41 |
| kbringard | however, that would imply that you should be using keystone to create everything now | 18:41 |
| kbringard | and not nova | 18:41 |
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| tzn | yes, i thik so | 18:41 |
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| kbringard | ok, yea, so here is what happens when I try to add an endpointTemplate | 18:44 |
| kbringard | ERROR: Service nova_compat not found | 18:45 |
| B-Wong | Ok, I remember now. It must have something to do with the bundleUploadRegister | 18:45 |
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| kbringard | http://paste.openstack.org/show/2693/ | 18:45 |
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| B-Wong | ls | 18:46 |
| kbringard | anyway, I need to go have lunch, I'll bbiab | 18:46 |
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| koolhead17 | rmk: your blog url :) | 18:49 |
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| B-Wong | somehow running the bundle before authoriizing access to ping and SSH will not allow me to do it after. | 18:57 |
| rmk | koolhead17: hmm? | 18:57 |
| koolhead17 | rmk: so that can check keystone configs :P | 18:58 |
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| B-Wong | So, I manage to run ./runTest.sh and when I type euca-describe-instances I see my instance | 19:01 |
| B-Wong | how come there is no log to tail as provided in instructions? | 19:01 |
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| tzn | kbringard: you need services first | 19:09 |
| tzn | take a look at the db | 19:09 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #773807 in keystone "Feature: Proxy config" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773807 | 19:17 |
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| kbringard | so yea, it seems like having a script that just does basic service setup would be smart | 20:01 |
| kbringard | not that runs automatically, but just so you can be like "Yes, I want to create standard nova services in keystone" | 20:02 |
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| littleidea | anyone seen notmyname today? | 20:12 |
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| annegentle | littleidea: he's on vacation this week | 20:15 |
| littleidea | annegentle: ahh, good for him.... no rest for the wicked | 20:16 |
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| kbringard | it seems there is a caveat to that: … unless their name is notmyname | 20:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #848403 in openstack-dashboard "Port Usage to novaclient from openstackx" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848403 | 20:16 |
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| kbringard | awesome, it looks like the Admin role is case sensitive and has to be "Admin" in keystone, is that accurate? | 20:25 |
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| annegentle | kbringard: I think that's right, I've seen others report it. | 20:29 |
| kbringard | annegentle: yea… I'm trying to figure out how this works so I can at least get a good howto get it up and running document going | 20:29 |
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| annegentle | kbringard: would LOVE the help. | 20:33 |
| annegentle | kbringard: esp. from admins perspective (yours) | 20:33 |
| kbringard | thats my hope :-) | 20:35 |
| kbringard | I'll write it up then approve it ;-) | 20:35 |
| annegentle | ;) you have the power | 20:36 |
| annegentle | I'm happy to review | 20:36 |
| kbringard | hehe, yea, totally | 20:36 |
| lionel | Hi all. I'm trying to setup a multinode nova setup on Ubuntu 10.04 using the PPA (~openstack-release/2011.3) . I'm stuck when I try to launch a new vm: the new vm is associated to a machine, but at startup it raises an error: http://paste.openstack.org/show/2696/ When I try to launch manually vconfig add br0 100 on the physical host, it works. Any idea? | 20:36 |
| kbringard | I just have to get the kins worked out so I can write something coherent, heh | 20:37 |
| kbringard | kinks* | 20:37 |
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| kbringard | annegentle: do you happen to know if keystone is authoritative for nova when it's implemented? | 20:40 |
| kbringard | meaning, if you're using keystone, should you add users and projects via keystone manage? | 20:41 |
| kbringard | or can you do it via nova-manage still and it'll work in reverse? | 20:41 |
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| annegentle | mmmmmmmm thinking | 20:49 |
| annegentle | I believe nova-manage is deprecated once you have keystone | 20:49 |
| kbringard | ok, that's kind of what I was thinking too | 20:49 |
| kbringard | but I couldn't figure it out :-) | 20:49 |
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| kbringard | but keystone is supposed to create the user in the nova-db, yea? otherwise there won't be any ec2 api keys | 20:50 |
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| tjoy | mattrobinson: IRCing from your root account is a terrible idea | 20:51 |
| annegentle | so you pretty much want to do all things from either the API or the dashboard | 20:52 |
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| annegentle | I have yet to test this myself: if you need ec2 api keys you either have to add them manually to the novarc file or go into dashboard and work on security groups? | 20:54 |
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| kbringard | yea, I dunno, no worries, I'll figure it out, just thought I'd ask :-) | 20:55 |
| annegentle | :) I need to figure it out too | 20:56 |
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| kbringard | I could grep through the code, but I'm lazy ;-) | 20:56 |
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| praefect | hey guys sorry, just a quick one: Can I automatically associate a public IP to instances at launch ?! | 21:04 |
| kbringard | yea, there is a flag in nova.conf | 21:05 |
| kbringard | uhm, let me find it | 21:05 |
| praefect | thanks that would be awesome, I'll look for it... and what about this quota of 10 public IP, there must be a setting to get more public IPs too... | 21:05 |
| kbringard | bleh, having trouble finding it, sorry, one more moment | 21:07 |
| praefect | yeah I'm looking at the reference for flags in nova.conf from the official doc and I can't find it... too bad there isn't a real reference for the flags of nova.conf... | 21:08 |
| kbringard | there is one, but it doesn't have everything | 21:09 |
| kbringard | http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/reference-for-flags-in-nova-conf.html | 21:09 |
| praefect | yeah, that's the one I'm reading | 21:10 |
| kbringard | --auto_assign_floating_ip | 21:10 |
| kbringard | set that to true and it should try to assign a floater to every instance that comes up | 21:10 |
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| praefect | nice... that's fantastic! | 21:11 |
| praefect | I'll try that, thanks | 21:11 |
| kbringard | I'm not sure if it will pull from non-allocated addresses, or if you have to allocate the addresses to the project first | 21:11 |
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| xenon75 | hello everybody. I have a quick question about RESTful interaction with nova diablo. From the command line I use this command curl -H "X-Auth-User: $NOVA_USERNAME" -H "X-Auth-Key: $NOVA_API_KEY" $NOVA_URL but I always get a 500 response saying 'Access key not found' | 21:17 |
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| xenon75 | I also tried to use $EC2_SECRET_KEY but it doesn't work | 21:18 |
| xenon75 | what am I missing for interacting with nova using curl? | 21:18 |
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| annegentle | xenon75: so that style works for Object Storage with swauth or tempauth but for nova with Keystone your key is your token generated from Keystone | 21:22 |
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| annegentle | xenon75: though if you have --use_deprecated_auth then X-Auth-Key might need your password instead of your key (odd, I know) | 21:22 |
| xenon75 | annegentle: I did a plain installation as described here http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/manual-ubuntu-installation.html . This means that I don't have keystone (or at least I don't think I have it) | 21:24 |
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| annegentle | xenon75: ok, right. | 21:25 |
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| annegentle | xenon75: so X-Auth-Key is actually the password assigned to your user | 21:27 |
| annegentle | xenon75: not the key | 21:28 |
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| xenon75 | annegentle: sorry for the silly question but... where do I find that password? :) What I did was to a nova-manage project zipfile and all I have is the resulting novarc which doesn't seem to have any password inside | 21:30 |
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| annegentle | not silly at all :) I am still trying to unravel this for diablo myself | 21:36 |
| annegentle | so when you did nova-manage user create | 21:36 |
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| annegentle | you made a secret word, I think this is the password you need (ref: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/managing-compute-users.html) | 21:37 |
| xenon75 | annegentle: frankly I don't remember because since the installation I just kept doing 'source novarc' and I was up and running :) Going to try some password (it's a local install for experimenting btw :)) | 21:39 |
| annegentle | hee, sounds like me | 21:41 |
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| xenon75 | annegentle: maybe I didn't set it and nova generated a UUID for me :) a nova-manage user modify ... solved the issue ;) Thank you for your help | 21:45 |
| annegentle | ah excellent, glad I could help | 21:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #873099 in nova "XenServer clean_reboot task doesn't time out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873099 | 21:51 |
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| xtoddx | does accesIPv4 on server create actually do anything? I can't find anywhere the value is being read / floating addresses being attached | 21:54 |
| kbringard | I'm calling it a day, see you all tomorrow | 21:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #844442 in openstack-dashboard "All nixon plugin is shown in dash sidemenu if there are syspanel plagin and dash plagin" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844442 | 23:07 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #848396 in openstack-dashboard "Port Service Catalog to novaclient from openstackx" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/848396 | 23:08 |
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