Sunday, 2011-10-16

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uvirtbotNew bug: #875458 in quantum "pep8 0.6.1 violations prevent checkins to master" [Critical,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #875468 in quantum "client lib has serialization bug when creating port with content" [Medium,In progress]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #855152 in quantum "Add keystone integration middleware for Quantum" [High,New]
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Oneiroimorning all08:00
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Oneiroibackburner: looks like there's no upstart going on08:18
Oneiroigoing to check it out by doing a rebuild, getting all the running processes and options from ps aux and then putting stuff into upstart which (hopefully) will allow reboot to not kill devstack xD08:19
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zykes-Oneiroi: what you use for installing ?09:18
zykes-devstack ?09:18
Oneiroizykes-:  yes without much success09:22
Oneiroiit works on first startup09:22
Oneiroibut nothing is set in upstart menaing nothing comes back online post reboot09:22
OneiroiI've trashed 2 vm's now and will be starting on the third shortly09:23
Oneiroisorry 2 year old just jumped on me09:25
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zykes-i think it's funny that a redhat install uses x times less to install then a ubuntu :/10:12
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Oneiroizykes-:  yeh but isn't the rh install a fair way behind the ubuntu releases?10:24
Oneiroiinfact I'm looking at monkeyfarm atm, so I can try to automate rpm builds for my rh :)10:24
zykes-Oneiroi: fair way behind ?10:26
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zykes-i think griddynamics has rpm's for at least diablo+ ?10:26
Oneiroiyeh I think they were last updated in may this year10:26
zykes-what was last updated ? No they where not10:27
Oneiroiwtf ... I'm going to check my yum.repos.d10:28
Oneiroimy packages aren't updating on my rhel deploys10:28
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zykes-headdesk ?10:29
Oneiroislamming head into desk10:29
zykes-too bad they aren't building quantum and those as well : )10:30
Oneiroiwell I may be able to solve that, providing a) I get monkeyfarm working and b) I have time10:31
zykes-what's monkeyfarm?10:31
Oneiroiapi wrapped rpm building it looks like10:33
Oneiroiatm I roll all my rpm's "by hand" this _may_ help me autpmate it10:33
zykes-you know there's koji as well ?10:33
zykes-stuff that fedora uses for building packages10:33
Oneiroiyeh koji is _ok_10:34
OneiroiI'm comparing them atm10:34
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Aimwhat about gnu make ^^11:30
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halfsssis anybody snapshots sucess with kvm11:36
Aimhalfsss: make sure you have a new enough version that supports it11:36
Aimthe default in fedora 14 for example doesnt11:36
Aimthats to told11:36
halfsssAim:i use ubuntu 11.04.daibalo,when i make a snapshots with a instance(kvm),here :2011-10-16 19:02:51,616 AUDIT nova.compute.manager [e978bcba-5e5a-4d86-bac7-ad892ee17803 admin 2] instance 1: snapshotting11:37
halfsss2011-10-16 19:02:52,943 ERROR nova.exception [-] Uncaught exception11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE: Traceback (most recent call last):11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/", line 98, in wrapped11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:     return f(*args, **kw)11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/virt/libvirt/", line 438, in snapshot11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:     snapshot_ptr = virt_dom.snapshotCreateXML(snapshot_xml, 0)11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/", line 708, in snapshotCreateXML11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE:     if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virDomainSnapshotCreateXML() failed', dom=self)11:37
halfsss(nova.exception): TRACE: libvirtError: Requested operation is not valid: Disk '/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001/disk' does not support snapshotting11:37
halfsssAim:did you know why?11:38
Aimno idea  yet11:39
Aimcheck the logfile of libvirtd11:39
Aimmaybe that gives a clue11:39
halfsssabove is log which /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log11:40
halfsssdid you you dashboard or nova make snapshots?11:40
Aimwith nova11:41
Aimdoes libvirtd gives a clue11:42
halfssslibvirtError: Requested operation is not valid: Disk11:43
Aimjust that?11:44
halfsss/var/log/libvirt/qemu/instance-00000001.log    don't have error :2011-10-16 19:00:33.922: starting up11:46
halfsssLC_ALL=C PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/bin QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=none /usr/bin/kvm -S -M pc-0.14 -enable-kvm -m 512 -smp 1,sockets=1,cores=1,threads=111:46
halfsss-name instance-00000001 -uuid 358e0ad0-dd84-64e5-3764-f12b50048d7d -nodefconfig -nodefaults -chardev socket,id=charmonitor,path=/var/lib/libvirt/qemu/instance-00000001.monitor,11:46
halfsssserver,nowait -mon chardev=charmonitor,id=monitor,mode=readline -rtc base=utc -boot c -drive file=/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001/disk,if=none,id=drive-virtio-disk0,b11:46
halfsssoot=on,format=raw -device virtio-blk-pci,bus=pci.0,addr=0x4,drive=drive-virtio-disk0,id=virtio-disk0 -netdev tap,fd=17,id=hostnet0 -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet0,id=net11:46
halfsss0,mac=02:16:3e:25:79:43,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3 -chardev file,id=charserial0,path=/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001/console.log -device isa-serial,chardev=charserial0,id=ser11:46
halfsssial0 -chardev pty,id=charserial1 -device isa-serial,chardev=charserial1,id=serial1 -usb -vnc -k en-us -vga cirrus -device virtio-balloon-pci,id=balloon0,bus=pci.0,add11:46
halfssschar device redirected to /dev/pts/611:46
halfssskvm: -device virtio-net-pci,netdev=hostnet0,id=net0,mac=02:16:3e:25:79:43,bus=pci.0,addr=0x3: pci_add_option_rom: failed to find romfile "pxe-virtio.bin"  that's all11:46
halfsss/var/log/nova/nova-compute.log have some error:here libvirtError: Requested operation is not valid: Disk '/var/lib/nova/instances/instance-00000001/disk' does not support snapshotting11:47
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halfsssAim: can you give out  the command which you use to make snapshots?11:54
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hurrycaneIf I want to deploy openstack on a production environment, what is the best solution?12:56
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zykes-is there a getting started guide for swift?14:36
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maplebedanybody here know the effect on swift when one of the memcache servers configured in the swift-proxy.conf dies?16:11
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notmynamemaplebed: should be the same as with any memcached application16:29
maplebedwhich varies widely by app...16:29
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notmynamemaplebed: worst case, if memcached can't be reached, the proxy may do a few more requests (for auth and cached account or container data)16:30
notmynameit /shouldn't/ break for basic functionality16:30
maplebedok.  I think that's what I was looking for.16:30
notmynameI think some things (like rate limiting) rely on memcached though16:30
maplebed (mostly, I'm curious which aspects to test when I kill one of the proxy/memcache servers.)16:30
notmynamekill the whole box that is running both a proxy server and a memcached server?16:31
notmyname(one of several)16:31
maplebedwith the memcache sharded across all the proxy servers.16:31
notmynamefrom an external perspective, you shouldn't see any impact16:31
notmynameload balancing should detect the failure and stop sending requests to that box16:32
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maplebedactually...  do you have an opinion on whether each proxy server should only talk to memcache on localhost or whether the cache should be sharded across the proxy servers?16:32
notmynamewe run with a memcached cluster shared between all proxies16:32
notmynamethe memcached instances are running on each of the proxy server boxes16:33
notmynamemy original point is that memcached should handle losing a node (with perhaps some cache misses initially)16:33
notmynameand whatever load balancing you have should handle losing a proxy16:34
notmynameso your clients shouldn't really be able to detect losing a box16:34
notmynamethere may be some initial increase in latency, but all requests should still work16:34
maplebed(I've just seen some stupid memcache clients and stupid app behavior in response to a missing memcache shard, so I'm consistently paranoid now.)16:35
notmynameheh. don't trust me. try it on your cluster with your use case patterns and see what happens :-)16:35
notmynamewife is calling me for lunch...16:36
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maplebedanother question on setting up swift. talks about the $STORAGE_LOCAL_NET_IP; with 3 storage nodes and 2 proxy nodes, what IP address is that supposed to represent?16:56
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Ryan_LaneI'm trying to set up nova-objectstore, and it is saying that it is read only17:35
Ryan_Lane(this is in cactus)17:35
Ryan_Laneis there anything I need to specifically do to make this writeable?17:35
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nelsonI'm not finding any docs for the current method for contributing patches.18:36
maplebednelson: it's not buried in somewhere?18:40
maplebed(quiet in here today...)18:45
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Keeaanuanybody can let me know who are the customers for openstack presently using it.19:41
Keeaanunobody talking?19:43
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devxevnebody there?19:48
keekzit's going to be a slow day on Sunday19:48
devxevi just want to know who is using openstack ?19:48
keekzmonday through friday it's always very busy19:48
devxevany company?19:48
keekznasa uses openstack i believe19:48
keekzhave you seen ?19:49
keekzand then click on companies?19:49
devxevgot it.19:49
devxevam java c++ developer, how it benefits me if i learn about openstack.19:50
devxevno takers for that question yet :(19:52
keekzi suppose it would depend on what you are developing19:53
keekzwhile there may be a lot of users in the channel, they're not actually "here", most are AFK and leave their computers running or using a bounce service19:54
keekzthe best time to ask questions is during normal business hours monday - friday19:54
devxevmight be true.19:54
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hurrycaneI've managed to get keystone and dashboard running20:56
hurrycanebut when I log into dashboard I get20:56
hurrycaneUnable to get usage info: This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser does not understand how to supply the credentials required.20:56
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hurrycanenova.api.openstack [-] None could not be found with token ...21:00
backburnerhey I am thinking of starting a project to integrate spice into openstack.. anyone interested?21:03
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zykes-backburner: as in spice instead of vnc ?21:08
backburneryes , it's 100 times better21:09
zykes-i know, i know it from RHEV21:09
backburnerI'm interested in also virtualizing desktops21:10
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backburnerxrdp also21:10
zykes-any swifties here ?21:11
backburnerbut spice is only for kvm21:11
zykes-what does For every storage device in /srv/node on each node add entries to each ring: mean ?21:11
Oneiroi<insert dune reference here>21:11
Oneiroizykes-: swift?21:12
backburneroneiroi you get 11.10 devstack fixed?21:12
zykes-Oneiroi: correct21:12
Oneiroibackburner: hah no21:12
backburnerI made some progress21:12
notmynamezykes-: the ring maps to storage volumes. so add each drive (mount point) to the ring as separate volumes21:12
Oneiroizykes-: it means the doc writer was drunk? ;-)21:12
backburnerit's glance just starts and dies after reboot21:12
zykes-notmyname: but /srv/nodes ? i don't have that folder...21:12
backburnerbut couldn't find any debug info for glance21:12
notmynamezykes-: for the saio instructions? or multinode?21:13
backburneri switched to 11.04 and no prob so...21:13
Oneiroibackburner:  :-/ think I'm gonna roll with Centos 6 on my labs21:14
zykes-just that i'm @ centos21:14
Oneiroikeep ubuntu to edge preveiw21:14
notmynamezykes-: honestly, it doesn't matter where they are. just do every mount point. looks like step 2 under "configure the storage nodes" may need to come before that step in the instructions21:14
zykes-Oneiroi: why not SL instead ?21:14
Oneiroizykes-:  weird thing with their mirros last night went 40321:15
notmynamezykes-: that looks like a place where the docs could use some love21:15
zykes-hehe, i know21:15
zykes-notmyname: ok : )21:16
backburnerhmmm on my new natty with devstack it stops at + wget -q -O- echo 'Waiting for g-api21:16
notmynamezykes-: make sense? or at least enough sense to let you keep going?21:16
backburnerand goes over and over21:16
zykes-yeap notmyname21:16
zykes-i'm doing it manually instead, was initially trying crowbar but for some reason ubuntu maverick in virtual machines is slow as hell to install21:17
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backburnerwhat service runs on 929221:18
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Oneiroisec I have that noted down somewhere21:18
backburnerit's looping like crazy trying to hit that service21:19
Oneiroibackburner:  glance21:19
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backburnerthinking devstack just dosen't work21:19
backburnerI switched to natty and glance problems on install21:20
zykes-notmyname: the21:20
backburneranyone actually made devstack to work?21:20
zykes-For every storage device in /srv/node on each node add entries to each ring:... step does one do that per storage node ?21:20
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uvirtbotNew bug: #875995 in quantum "update README" [High,New]
backburnerdevstack works great on 11.10 ... until oneiroi made me reboot :(21:24
backburnerI thought the centos rpms are old?21:24
backburnerguess I am going to try crowbar.21:25
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Oneiroibackburner:  no there's another source21:26
Oneiroithe wiki linked ones are for cactus not diablo21:26
zykes-backburner: they are not old, they are released for diablo 3 as well21:26
zykes-notmyname: ?21:27
notmynamezykes-: sorry. didn't see the question until now21:28
backburnerso should i centos or sl21:28
zykes-backburner: i would do SL21:28
zykes-they update more regularely21:28
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notmynamezykes-: yes. add every storage volume in your entire cluster to the ring (a storage volume being (IP, port, mount point) como21:28
backburner6.0 ?21:29
zykes-backburner: i am at 6.121:29
backburnercool , just looking for something to get started with.21:29
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notmynamezykes-: you will be creating the ring on any box you choose (even one not in your cluster). then you distribute the resulting ring file to the boxes in your cluster21:29
zykes-so i guess i can just use 1 zone ?21:31
zykes-for testing21:31
notmynameunfortunately, no21:31
notmynamezykes-: not yet. I hope that we will update swift to allow that21:31
zykes-hmm, how many nodes do i need then ?21:32
notmynamezykes-: for prod or POC?21:32
Oneiroiyou need at least 3 devices for swift21:32
notmynamezykes-: but for now you need at least <replica count> zones, and preferably one or 2 failover zones21:32
notmynamezykes-: for a poc, I'd recommend 4 zones21:32
zykes-3 storage 1 proxy?21:32
notmynameproxies aren't "zoned"21:33
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notmynameso for a poc, for example, you could have 4 drives in one box and configure each drive to be a separate zone21:33
notmynamein a large prod zone, you could have an entire cabinet (or even groups a cabinets) as a single zone21:34
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notmyname*large prod cluster21:34
zykes-so a zone would be kind of like a volume or ?21:35
notmynamezykes-: in summary, add every storage volume in your cluster to the ring and split them (evenly as possible) into 4 zones for your poc21:35
notmynamezykes-: a zone is, honestly, a deployment detail. it's there to allow you to group storage volumes into separate availability zones (separate switches, power, etc)21:36
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notmynamezykes-: make sense?21:39
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notmynamezykes-: when swift chooses where to store each replica, it ensures that each replica is in a separate zone21:40
backburnerwhy does my snapshot just say queued?21:41
backburnernever starts21:41
zykes-but notmyname there for every node in ... does one do that on one node only or ?21:42
zykes-like on one server21:42
notmynameI'm not parsing that21:43
zykes-it says foreach node in /srv/nodes one should do .... is that to be done on one serveR?21:43
notmynamezykes-: so let's assume you have servers with 8 drives each (4 servers total)21:45
notmynamezykes-: that gives you 32 drives. add all 32 drives to the ring21:45
notmynamezykes-: and box 1 = zone 1, box 2 = zone 2, etc21:45
zykes-yeah, but am i suppose to execute this on one server and then copy out a file or?21:46
zykes-it isn't too self explanatory i think21:47
zykes-i get it that a "node" is a ip + device but21:48
notmynamezykes-: yes. do that for every dive (of course adjusting the zone as necessary when adding the drives). you will get one resulting ring file (technically, one for accounts, one for containers, and one for objects)21:48
notmynamezykes-: then copy the resulting ring file out to your servers21:48
zykes-and this one does one the proxy server or ?21:49
notmynamezykes-: that step in the docs does look confusion21:50
notmynamezykes-: the summary is that you are creating 3 rings (account, container, and object).21:51
notmynamezykes-: add each drive on every storage box to each of the rings21:51
notmynamezykes-: it doesn't matter where you create the files because they are just data files and nothing is needed to create them but the strings of text you give it21:52
hurrycaneshort question: how can I generate credentials that I can use with the nova command line tool21:53
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zykes-so basically then notmyname i got storage not for POC that's 4 zones21:57
zykes-so if i make a script of the paste to take $zone $ip $dev that's <zone nr> $nodeip $disk ?21:58
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notmynamezykes-: sounds right. (don't forget the port number too. the ones given are the defaults for account/contianer/object)22:00
zykes-i'm using the defaults22:00
zykes-so that's ok22:00
zykes-i hope that dell gives support for using RHEL later on for crowbar or updates to ubuntu 11.04 :(22:00
errris it 10.10 now?22:01
* notmyname has sep away for a bit22:01
zykes-errr: yeah, and for some reason that's slow for me22:01
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zykes-notmyname: gone or ?22:17
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notmynamezykes-: back22:24
zykes-container-sync should that be set in container-server.conf ?22:24
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backburnerwhy does my snapshot just say queued?22:32
backburnercan I tell it to start?22:32
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zykes-notmyname: how can i use keystone with swift?22:44
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backburnercreating a snapshot from the webconsole and it has said queued for 2 hours, anyway to start it?22:46
backburnerand I am curious if I can somehow migrate my  instances with amazon ec2 to openstack?22:46
notmynamezykes-: talk to a keystone dev ;-)22:46
notmynamezykes-: the docs on the keystone site are out dated, and I don't know the current status of the keystone trunk (I've heard reports of working and not)22:47
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notmynamezykes-: I've gotten it to work (several months ago), but use swift's tempauth for my dev work22:50
zykes-isn't it tempaut that one is supposed to use ?22:54
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zykes-guess i'll wait notmyname for dolphm or something tomorrow, i'm wanting to do a POC for starting up OpenStack usage here in Norway22:56
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zykes-alot of enterprise customers here with alot of $ ;p22:57
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backburnercreating a snapshot from the webconsole and it has said queued for 2 hours, anyway to start it?23:29
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