Friday, 2012-01-13

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mjforkwarik: no, that is not right00:06
warikmjfork: ok, so, why use swift with Openstack ? Just to store your images?00:08
mjforkyes, store images00:08
mjforkits two different use cases - swift is object storatge (think amazon s3) where as nova is computing power + block storage (thjink ec2 + ebs)00:08
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warikso glance is hooked up to Swift and pull the image from there and gave it to the nova-compute00:10
mjforkactually, glance returns a URL to nova00:12
mjforknova goes to the URL to get it00:12
mjforkthat URL *may* point at nova00:12
mjforkif err, at Swift00:12
mjforkso swift is optional with glance00:12
warikmjfork: got it00:12
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warikare you using swift mjfork ?00:13
warikI'm trying to get some feedback :)00:13
mjforki have installed it in POC format00:13
warikok, with 1 proxy and couple nodes ?00:14
mjfork1 proxy, 5 stroage00:14
warikis it  5 storages minimum ?00:14
wariki'd like to do 1 proxy and 2 storages00:14
warikat first00:14
mjforkyes, 5 minimum00:15
mjforkdoes 3 replicas00:15
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warikhmm, well that's a lot of machines for a test environment !00:16
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warikI install swift all in one earlier on a vm, looks promising so far00:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #915732 in horizon "keystone api WADL file with invalid format" [Undecided,New]
mjforkwarik: i cheated...i used 6 VMs on 1 machine00:21
mjforkfor testing, it is fine00:21
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warikmjfork: do you think there is a way to tweak the config to use less storage nodes?00:26
mjforki guess you could start wtih 3 if you don't need redudanncy or anything00:26
warikright on! i guess i'll do that00:28
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JinkyungIn Swift system we experience occasional connection failure , and suspect that it may be related to 'net.ipv4.tcp_timestamp. Is there anyone who have the similar experineces on it ?00:45
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JinkyungIn Swift system I experience occasional connection failure. Does anyone who experiences on it ?00:47
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sobe__I am looking into vm image storage in OpenStack. I want to be able to implement vm image placement decisions myself. I just wanted to know if Swift allows that functionality. More specifically, is Swift configurable such that I can tell it which nodes/zones vm image replicas should be placed? I am new to OpenStack so I don't have much experience with it.01:51
uvirtbotNew bug: #915762 in horizon "Tooltips don't line up between hover and focus" [Undecided,New]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #915765 in horizon "2 tooltips can be shown at once" [Undecided,New]
uvirtbotNew bug: #915764 in horizon "Editing a tenant description with a special characters breaks the app" [Undecided,New]
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shayatoua question about the ring in swift. since the replica number is configured when I first built the ring, if  I want to reconfigure the replica number, what should I do?02:05
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mjforksobe_: swift is an optional way to store images, sounds like you are referring to instances?02:35
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tjoyany xenapi users? does openstack determine whether instances are run as paravirtualized or fully-virtualized?02:37
sobe_mjfork: I was referring to storing images. in an environment where there are many geographically distributed datacenters, I want to be able choose the locations where image replicas are located. I wasn't sure if that was possible in swift, or if I have to implement my own storage for that.02:39
notmynameshayatou: do you have a set of data that you must preserve access to?02:39
mjforksobe_: hmm, i don't believe that is supported in swift yet. but notmyname is right on time02:40
notmynamesobe_: swift can't really do that yet02:40
mjforksobe_: i don't know if this is best way, but glance is really a pointer to an image that nova retrieves - can you use an DNS name that resovles to a local machine for retrieveal and use a repilcated filesystem?02:41
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notmynamesobe_: perhaps an alternative is to have a few swift clusters in different locations and choose which one you write to02:43
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sobe_mjfork: i'm new to OpenStack so I don't know how everything works yet. But I thought glance retrieved the images for nova. Is there a documentation for this that I can read?02:44
mjforkglance is a registry02:45
mjforkit doesn't do the retrievval02:45
mjforkbut returns a pointer02:45
sobe_notmyname: is it possible to have multiple swift clusters and how would one go about choosing which one to write to?02:45
mjforkthat pointer is usually a swift url or an http url02:45
mjforkbut could be others02:45
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notmynamesobe_: that would be chosen at a level above swift (eg your auth system or some management piece)02:47
notmynamesobe_: this is the way rackspace cloud files works. we have 3 production clusters, and the rackspace auth system determines what cluster you use when you sign up for an account (which cluster you get is determined by our own business rules)02:48
uvirtbotNew bug: #915785 in horizon "Creating flavor requires choosing an ID" [Undecided,New]
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sobe_notmyname: if you have multiple swift clusters, if i understand it correctly, once someone's account is associated to a particular swift cluster, they can only store their objects on that cluster. is this the way it would work?02:53
notmynamesobe_: yes. each swift cluster is autonomous, but it would be possible for an auth system or ID management system to keep references to many swift clusters. this is the sort of thing that keystone (another openstack project) is working towards02:54
notmynamesobe_: we've talked about testing swift clusters dispersed over a wide geographic area (and then fixing any issues that show up) and adding support for "replication policies", but it hasn't been done yet02:55
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notmyname(where replication policies would be something like "make sure this container is in these zones [which are in these 2 regions]")02:56
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sobe_I think I will need to take the approach mjfork has suggested. thank you guys for your help, it has been very helpful!03:04
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mjforkgood luck03:04
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shayatounotmyname:I think I need to preserve access to data already stored in the swift cluster03:56
notmynameshayatou: ah. then you'll hae a tougher time :-)03:56
notmynameshayatou: basically, you'll need to migrate your data (GET from the old, PUT to the new)03:56
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shayatounotmyname: is the ring infomation  kept on the builder file or the gzipped file?04:05
notmynamethe gzipped file. the builder file is used to build/modify the ring. in practice, it's not a bad idea to always keep then together. you don't _ever_ want to lose all your copies of the builder04:06
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shayatouI read from the administor manual,  that it seems possible  to recover from a builder file loss, but a new ring have be create from scratch,  data will be unreachable during that process04:12
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shayatounotmyname in that case, do I need to manully migrate data04:13
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notmynameshayatou: yes04:14
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shayatouthen, I guess, in production, it is huge work if I want to reconfige the ring?04:23
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shayatounotmyname: in rackspace cloud files, do you change the configuration of ring?  I think it is a reasonable request that I to want change the partition number or replica count as time goes by, now it  is just really ditfficult to do that04:29
notmynameno, we don't. we use 3 replicas04:30
sobe_notmyname: I read that Glance supports swift, filesytem, S3, and http as backend store. My question was does Glance support Network File Systems as backend store?04:31
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shayatounotmyname:  what about the partitition number?   if the cluster starts small, and then more devices is added,  the partion number may need to grow?04:33
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mjforksobe_: just mount it at the OS level as the directory Glance uses04:47
mjforkshayatou: when setting up the ring, you are to use a parition power that covers as big as your env could ever grow04:50
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mjforkshayatou: see "Preparing the ring" under
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mjforkshayatou: . A good starting point might be to figure out the maximum number of drives the cluster will contain, and then multiply by 100, and then round up to the nearest power of two.04:52
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OrpNeed to ask a few newb questions re: Openstack. Is this the place to do it?06:04
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KiallOrp, yea.. it is ;)06:13
OrpWow. Thanks for replying. It is so quiet here that I thought I was doing something wrong. What gives?06:14
KiallIts night for most of the people usually here ;)06:14
Kiall(or 6am for me..)06:14
OrpAH. Of course. May I ask you a few Openstack questions?06:15
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KiallBTW - General IRC etiquette is "Don't ask to ask, Just ask." .. Most people ignore the "ask to ask" in case them get roped into something they cant help with, or dont have time to ;)06:16
OrpVery new to it. I notice there is the ObjectStorage and then there is Nova Volume. I see that I can use storage servers for ObjectStorage. Do I need other storage for Volume?06:16
Kiallin case they*06:16
KiallOpenStack Swift (Object Storge) and OpenStack Nova's volume storage are two very different services..06:18
KiallSwift is basically Amazon S3 (and actually is RackSpace cloud files...)06:18
KiallWhile nova's volume service is quite like Amazon's EBS service..06:18
KiallOne provides a service you can use HTTP GET/POST/PUT/DELETE requests against to store files..06:19
Kiallwhile the other provides a "over the network USB drive" you can format and do what you like with..06:19
Orpah. ok. I am wondering what sort of storage devices Rackspace and/or AWS uses for their "volume service"? I suppose they have storage networks - with SANS? or do they also use commodity drive systems there too. (hope that is clear)06:20
KiallSo - yes, they would normally be hosted on different servers..06:20
Kiall(Also .. Swift is optional if you just want VMs... And Nova is optional if you just want object storage)06:20
KiallYea - the volume service would typically use iSCSI capable SAN storage..06:21
Orpnow I see06:21
OrpSo helpful06:21
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OrpI was confusing the storage - thanks so much.06:21
Kiallswift would typically use much cheaper storage servers.. ie no RAID, large disks, as many disks as you can cram into each server...06:21
OrpVolume would use what sort of devices?06:22
OrpExpensive RAID units?06:22
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OrpAh. I see your answer above - iSCSI SAN storage06:24
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KiallYea.. You can you standard servers aswell..06:25
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OrpI see. Pardon me for being so dense on this. By standard servers you mean, say, a 48GB RAM quad core system with 48 SATA drives and a few 10GbE adapters?06:27
KiallThat would do the trick all right..06:27
Orp(as opposed to a DELL unit)06:27
OrpOK THanks That really helps06:27
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KiallI have a small nova install that uses some pretty crap dell servers for nova-volume .. but, performance and availability won't be a good as something decent ;)06:28
Kiallas good as*06:29
Orpunderstood. How many volume servers do you have?06:29
OrpI am wondering how many I can get away with for my test install.06:30
KiallJust the one on that install.. We don't really use the volume service for much :)06:30
Kiallfor a test install, you can literally get away with 1 server total..06:30
saju_mhave any way to add new instance type to openstack ???06:31
Kiallsaju_m, yea.. "nova-manage flavor add"06:31
OrpGreat. Ultimately I wish to see if I might put together a real system. But storage scares me. I really want to get away from using expensive Compellent or Equalogic units. That would kill me over time.06:31
saju_mthen, any way to get all available instance types ??06:32
Kiallsaju_m, replace add with list06:32
saju_mok thanks06:33
KiallOrp, yea.. the issue with using standard servers is availability.. Its much harder to keep all volumes alive running when one dies ;)06:33
saju_mi think we can't do this with euca2ools,  right ???06:33
uvirtbotNew bug: #915817 in glance "kombu for notifications should reconnect" [Undecided,New]
Kiallno - euca2ools is a set of tools desiged for end users, and has no system admin capabilities06:33
saju_malso we can't  add and list instance types in eucalyptus like this ????06:34
Kialleucalyptus from what i remember had a fixed list where you could only change the values (ie more ram etc)06:34
* Kiall really hopes I've gotton the driver pre-install right on the windows image.. 4th time lucky ;)06:35
OrpHmmm. Yeah. I will step aside and allow others access. One last question: Do you think the big cloud companies are using gobs and gobs of SAN units (like EMC, DELL, etc?) That is seriously expensive.06:36
Kiallthe big cloud companies have the manpower and salary budget to be able to avoid expensive SANs if they want to ;)06:36
Orpaha - yes06:37
OrpWell this has been helpful. Hopefully, after I have played around with Openstack, I will return to help some newb get his cloud underway. Thanks again06:39
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LarsNIs it wrong to deploy a 6 node Swift cluster, on Nova instances?06:49
* LarsN feels slightly dirty.06:49
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KiallLarsN, lol06:59
LarsNsure it's funny.06:59
LarsNbut It's also true.07:00
LarsNI did it, and i feel slightly dirty as a result. :)07:00
Kialland rightly so ;)07:00
LarsNthe truth is, I have access to a rather large nova installation, and i don't have 5 spare computers laying around.07:01
LarsNso i did the next best thing.07:01
Kiallthis isnt for production use now is it?07:01
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Kiallah .. then its all good ;)07:02
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Kiallsomething tells me this disk benchmark is.. off.07:07
Kiall3000MB/s my ass.07:07
KiallWonder if HDtune uses a capital B when it should be using a small b ;)07:07
LarsNI've seen benchmarks along those lines.07:08
LarsNZFS, with an I/O fast L2ARC cache, solid state ZILs, and a pile'o'spindles07:08
KiallYea.. 4x SAS 3Gb/s in a raid 10, on a crappy dell raid card... inside a VM.07:09
KiallI don't think so ;)07:09
KiallIts probably not even actually hitting the disk... the server has enough spare ram to cache it all.. humm.07:12
Kiall just cant be accurate ;)07:13
LarsNshould totally post that as...  "Dude look at my epic storage array"07:16
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KiallLarsN, lol..07:24
KiallPretty sure people are throwing dell 1950's in the bin these days, if only they knew it could do 3GB/s ;)07:25
LarsNat $oldjob we had a LOT of 1950s in service.07:25
LarsNnew job is a different major vendor.07:26
KiallOkay. This cant be happening. 3GB/s over 1Gb/s with iscsi overheads -_-07:26
KiallI thought HDTune was the "go to" HD benchmark tool for windows -_-07:26
LarsNsorry, haven't touched it in years for anything other than a work laptop.07:27
Kiallyea.. I know.. Need some MS SQL server VMs for a client..07:27
KiallYea .. Neither have I ;)07:27
KiallOkay .. iotop on the physical hosts shows them basically idle.. I'm benchmarking my RAM it seems ;)07:32
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LarsNi kind of want to roll out the jmeter test suite on nova compute instances,07:39
LarsNand see just how much my site proxied by cloudflare can take..  :)07:39
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KiallI've found cloudflare fairly unreliable.. Keeps saying "site down" when I *know* its not..07:41
LarsNcloudflare is NOT a cdn07:41
LarsNwhen benchmarking?07:41
LarsNor in general?07:41
KiallNo, in general on relatively idle sites..07:41
LarsNI found i had to whitelist my test sites or CF would block the benchmarks. :)07:41
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Kiall .. every week or so it goes down for a few mins..07:42
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LarsNat least you're actually doing something with your CF site. :)07:43
LarsN^ just a dumb test :)07:43
uvirtbotLarsN: Error: "just" is not a valid command.07:43
LarsNafter we launch, I might move that into our nova cluster, and set up auto-scaling load balancing :)07:44
LarsNbeen working on haproxy, and event triggers that touch the nova api.07:44
Kiallnice :)07:44
KiallHumm.. According to cloudflare's stats we do about 60k views a day.. more than I thought :/07:45
LarsNI'm less than 1k07:45
LarsNnot that my blog about bicycling should have anyones attention.07:46
LarsNonce i get my haproxy work done, i might write a post about it.07:46
shanghi all, anyone tried the diablo release and not being able to push the image to the cloud? Error log from nova-api:
shangI am getting the error: Unable to run euca--describe-images.  Is environment for euca- set up?07:51
Kiallshang, have you sourced the novarc file?07:51
shangKiall: yes07:51
KiallWell, without being able to see the pastebin (the canonical pastebin is canonical employee only ;)), the error sounds like you are missing the environment variables novarc ususally sets up07:52
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shangKiall: sorry, let me try to paste it again07:53
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KiallOkay - that looks like nova-api is failing to connect to the glance-api, is glance running? (and is nova pointing to the right IP for glance?)07:55
shangKiall: glance[-api, -registry] is running,07:56
Kiallis nova-api and glance on the same server?07:57
shangbut the glance_api is using the private address07:57
* shang changing the glance api server to the public ip07:58
Kiallah .. if you add --glance_api_servers=x.x.x.x:9292 to nova.conf and restart nova-api + nova-compute07:58
shangKiall: yeah, that is the problem, not sure I understand why they can't talk to each other tho07:59
shangshould they always be on the same LAN?07:59
KiallNo - anything that lets a 9292 TCP through should work..08:00
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shangyeah....  :S08:04
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uvirtbotNew bug: #892065 in nova "libcloud driver" [High,Invalid]
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smoser`Kiall, ping09:50
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smoserKiall, well, if you see this, there is a question in bug 912066 for you.09:51
Kiallsmoser, heya - just about to head off but will look when I get to the office...09:53
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uvirtbotNew bug: #915966 in nova "New command "guestmount"" [Undecided,Invalid]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #916018 in openstack-ci "Need to have working quantum-tarball jobs" [High,Confirmed]
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uvirtbotNew bug: #916019 in openstack-ci "Need python-keystoneclient tarball jobs" [High,New]
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heyhoHello, anyone knows if openstack is capable of doing automatic live migration if a physical compute node goes down? Using nfs instance storage maybe? Is it possible too?13:39
Spirilisheyho: I don't think it has automated migration (and it wouldn't be a "live migration" anyhow, since the compute node is down)... in fact I think to make that happen you have to manually edit the database to move it to another box13:42
SpirilisBut it is possible, with NFS backed instance storage.  Live migration (from compute nodes that are up) also requires NFS instance storage13:43
SpirilisI can't say I've actually tried it yet :-)13:43
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Leanderhello all13:44
Leanderi need some help with keystone once again13:45
LeanderFor starters, how can i solve this issue: "ImportError: No module named keystone.middleware.ec2_token"13:49
Leanderi've installed keystone according to
mjforkLeander: where do you get that error13:51
Leandermjfork: as soon as i restarted nova-api13:52
mjforksounds like bad paste.ini13:52
mjforkpatsebin it13:52
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heyhoSpirilis thanks for the info13:54
Leanderi copied it from the ones in the examples directory of the keystone source13:55
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Leanderi also replace glance-api and glance-registry with the ones available in the example dir13:56
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mjforkLeander: are you trying to use EC2 auth?13:56
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Leandermjfork: i want to system to work with OpenStack api instead13:57
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mjforkok, did you happen to save your old config?13:57
Leandermjfork: yes, should i paste bin it?13:58
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mjforkwhy did you replace it?13:59
sobeDoes Glance support other key-value stores besides Swift as image store?13:59
mjforksobe: swift isn't a key value store14:00
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Leandererm, because i thought it was necessary :S14:00
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Spirilisyeah glance keeps key-values in its database, but the backend is the object store for the images themselves14:00
mjforksobe: you can point glance at  (file, swift, s3, or rbd).14:00
mjforkLeander: pastebin old conf14:01
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Leandermjfork: out of curiosity, is there an easy way to post these things through the terminal?14:02
mjforkhmm, not that i know of14:02
mjforki guess ishould find a shortcut14:02
mjforkLeander: is your nova install diablo version?14:04
Leandermjfork: yes, standard packages provided by ubuntu 11.1014:05
mjforkcan you get package verisons14:05
Leandersec pleas14:06
mjforkLeander: for nova14:09
mjforkis that what all the nvoa packages have?14:09
Leandermjfork: all the nova-* have the same version14:10
mjforkLeander: get this apit-paste
Leandermjfork: what exactly was the problem with the other one?14:11
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mjforkLeander: probably from a wrong version, not 100% sure, just getting a known good14:12
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Leandermjfork: nova-api started without problems14:12
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mjforkyou need to edit that file14:14
mjforkput yuor keystone info at the bottom14:14
anpl1hi all14:15
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mjforkLeander: and then comment ou 87 and 94 while uncommenting 91/9814:15
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Leandermjfork: check14:17
Leandermjfork: "PasteAppNotFound: Could not load paste app 'osapi' from /etc/nova/api-paste.ini"14:17
Leanderafter nova-api restart14:17
mjforkthe conf14:17
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Leandermjfork: nova.conf or api-paste?14:18
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mjforkLeander: give me the whole stacktrace for the error14:25
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oarcherhi. my instances got problems for reaching . To do so , i had to configure eth1 on the controler with a private ip, and do ifconfig eth1 up on the compute node. (eth1 is part of the br100 bridge). Is there a better way to do so ?14:32
mjforkoarcher: are you running multihost?14:32
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oarchermjfork: yes14:33
oarcher(and i want to)14:33
mjforkoarcher: need to run nova-api on every host14:33
mjforkLeander: I see it! missing a P on line 9814:34
mjforkLeander: ipeline should be pipelin14:34
oarcherok, so just apt-get install nova-api on every hosts ?14:34
mjforkand start/run it yes14:34
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oarcherok, many thanks. I'm going to try14:35
Leandermjfork: fixed it, but now i have this problem:
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mjforkneed to isntall python-keystone iirc14:37
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Leanderfrom the main repos?14:37
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GMII'm getting errors when installing nova-compute from the Essex2 PPA on Ubuntu 10.10 (same on Ubuntu 11.04):
GMIIt looks like nova-common is broken :(  Anybody else tried Essex2 from the PPA?14:41
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Leandermjfork: the system is plotting against me!!
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micadeyeyewhat image pastebin would you recommend?14:52
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micadeyeyeI always search for one to use14:52
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micadeyeye<micadeyeye> what's the Fedora 16 (Verne) log-in details?14:56
micadeyeye<micadeyeye> login: root14:56
micadeyeye<micadeyeye> password:???14:56
micadeyeye<micadeyeye> I am trying to log into into kernel14:56
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SpirilisFYI, looks like some Ubuntu updates for kvm, qemu-kvm etc. just came through for Oneiric14:59
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koolhead11uksysadmin: around15:00
uksysadminI am15:00
Leandercan some one tell me the root of the problem here >
micadeyeyewhat can I use to paste image?15:00
Spirilisupdate version of qemu-kvm is now 0.14.1+noroms-0ubuntu6.115:00
micadeyeyeWhat site**15:00
micadeyeyeAnd does anyone know the username& password to the Fedora 16 kernel?15:01
Leandermjfork: still there?15:01
micadeyeyeI guess the username would be "root"15:01
mjforkLeander: on the phoen15:02
uksysadminkoolhead11, 'sup?15:03
micadeyeyeuksysadmin, Leander, got answer to any of my questions?15:04
koolhead11uksysadmin: how are things?15:04
tjoymicadeyeye: you're supposed to use a ssh key, usually. there's no password, as such.15:04
uksysadminok-  just joined in the openstack foundation webinar happening now by bryce and collier15:04
tjoyhaving a default password would be a major security risk15:05
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uksysadminmicadeyeye, where did you get the image from?15:05
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Leandermicadeyeye: sorry, can't help you there, but it's as tjoy says, you need to have an access key15:05
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tjoymicadeyeye: also the kernel doesn't care about the root account, you're worried about the vm image. that's different.15:05
tjoycomes in the same package, though, usually15:06
micadeyeyeand what site (like pastebin) can I always use to upload images?15:07
tjoyso as far as i know you can't log into a fresh openstack image through the qemu console, as such, you need to ssh in15:08
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tjoyif you want you can mount the disk image and change the root password15:08
tjoybut that's cheating15:08
mjforkLeander: found it15:10
mjforkchange line 132 to paste.filter_factory = keystone.middleware.nova_keystone_context:NovaKeystoneContext.factory15:10
micadeyeyeok. what would the root password be, when sshing? I guess the details i used when registering the image. right. Something like "ssh -i nova_key.priv root@"15:11
tjoyright, when you use -i you bypass the password15:11
tjoyyou have one half of a keypair that's stronger than a password so it never asks15:11
Leandermjfork: :(
tjoythen once you're logged in to the vm you can set root's password to whatever you want, but you should just keep using the key because it's safer15:13
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mjforkleander pastebin ls -l keystone/middleware folder15:15
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micadeyeyei can't get past this msg:15:17
micadeyeye[root@micadeyeye ~]# ssh -i /home/novarc root@
micadeyeyeThe authenticity of host ' (' can't be established.15:17
micadeyeyeRSA key fingerprint is 85:f3:c8:12:f8:90:cd:25:23:6c:88:3f:ea:7f:b5:20.15:17
micadeyeyeAre you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes15:17
micadeyeyeWarning: Permanently added '' (RSA) to the list of known hosts.15:17
micadeyeyeEnter passphrase for key '/home/novarc':15:17
micadeyeyeEnter passphrase for key '/home/novarc':15:17
tjoymicadeyeye: 'file /home/novarc'15:18
micadeyeyecontains the key-pair15:18
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tjoymykey0.pem: PEM RSA private key15:19
micadeyeyetotal 1615:19
micadeyeye-rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 1029 Jan  9 10:57 cacert.pem15:19
micadeyeye-rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 2513 Jan  9 10:57 cert.pem15:19
micadeyeye-rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye 1114 Jan  9 10:57 novarc15:19
micadeyeye-rw-------. 1 micadeyeye micadeyeye  887 Jan  9 10:57 pk.pem15:19
mjforkpastebin conf15:19
tjoythat's what the output of 'file' shoud look slike15:19
tjoyquit pasting15:19
Leandermjfork: keystone.conf?15:19
tjoymicadeye: so that's an SSL cert, it's different from an ssh keypair15:20
micadeyeyetjoy, the pk.pem?15:20
tjoymicadeyeye: did you register a keypair with nova?15:20
mjforkLeander: api-paste.ini15:20
micadeyeyeI think I did15:20
tjoymicadeyeye: that key is for interacting with nova's ec2 api, not for sshing into vms15:21
tjoyi forget the command off-hand to register a keypair15:21
micadeyeye euca-add-keypair nova_key > nova_key.priv15:21
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tjoyso use nova_key.priv instead of novarc15:22
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mjforkLeander: i am at a loss, the file is there15:24
uksysadmin(micadeyeye, make sure your priv key is chmod 0600 too and relaunch again with -k nova_key in your run instances line)15:24
tjoymicadeyeye: what he said15:24
mjforkLeander: maybe a python/pate expert can help?15:24
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Leandermjfork: my keystone directory is located ~/openstack-keystone-3275af715:24
mjforkwell, ok.15:25
mjforkassuming this is an all-on-one-box install?15:25
Leandermjfork: to launch and use keystone i always have to use the --config-file=openstack-keystone-3275af7/etc/keystone.conf15:25
Leanderbefore moving to the servers i'm testing it out in a virtual machine15:25
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Leanderat the moment keystone is operating in a separate vm, and i have another vm with both the controller and the compute componentes15:26
mjforkdoes the keystone.middleware exist on controller15:26
micadeyeyeeuca-reboot-instances -k nova_key.priv i0000000515:26
mjforkif not, you need to install it there pyhton-keystone there.15:26
micadeyeyedoesn't work15:26
tjoymicadeyeye: you're using the wrong command15:27
tjoy-k is an argument to euca-run-instances15:27
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tjoyyou'll need to terminate that instance and rebuild it15:27
Leandermjfork: python keystone is already installed15:28
mjforkLeander: do you have that folder - keystone/middleware15:28
Leandermjfork: i can find on the keystone vm, on the controller vm it doesn't show up anywhere, what's the standard location for that folder?15:29
mjforksomewhere under python15:30
mjforkdo you have a keystone dir in python?15:31
tjoytry 'find / -name thefile.name15:31
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gnu111is there a equivalent of euca_conf --list-nodes in nova? "nova list" does not show the compute nodes.15:31
tjoygnu111: euca-describe-availability-zones verbose ?15:32
Leanderthat's on the controller vm15:32
mjforkLeander: pastebin nova_auth_token.py15:33
gnu111tjoy: thanks. I wanted to see which instances are running in which node.15:33
tjoyeh, good luck15:33
tjoyit's probably in there somewhere but i don't know off-hand15:34
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micadeyeyetjoy, please see
micadeyeyeKeypairNotFound: Keypair /home/micadeyeye/novacreds/nova_key.priv not found for user micadeyeye15:36
mjforkLeander: i think those packages are broken15:37
mjforkLeander: try putting this file in the middleware folder on controller
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tjoymicadeyeye: use nova's stored copy, so...15:40
tjoyeuca-run-instances -k nova_key ami-0000000515:40
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Leandermjfork: now it works.15:40
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Leandermjfork: if install keystone in the same machine as the remaining components, it should automatically install these things correct?15:41
mjforkwith good packages, yes15:41
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Leanderi installed keystone according to this link:
Leanderwhich you pointed out yesteday15:43
Leanderthe only difference being that keystone is running in a separate vm from the rest of openstack15:43
mjforkyeah - it doesn't really talk about the controller node15:43
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Leanderalso, how can i make keystone start as a service? currently i need to start it as: "keystone --config-file=openstack-keystone-3275af7/etc/keystone.conf &"15:45
micadeyeyetjoy, see
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LarsNLeander: you could craft an init script (or launchd?)15:47
LarsNLeander: or, for a quick and dirty, I suspect most modern versions of cron support (@boot)15:48
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tjoymicadeyeye: wait 10 minutes and try again15:48
LeanderLarsN: i'll have to look into that15:49
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Leanderis there any fast way i can test keystone is actually running and perfectly integrated?15:49
mjforkLeander: use dashbaord15:51
micadeyeyetjoy, I thought it wasn't going to request for a password.15:51
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Leandermjfork: isn't that in beta stages as well?15:51
Leanderthe openstack api should work now right?15:52
tjoymicadeyeye: did you chmod the keyfile to 600?15:54
tjoyssh won't work if it thinks people are going to snoop on your private key15:54
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micadeyeyetjoy, yes15:55
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Leanderis there any command line tool available to test out the openstack api? can i do it with curl?15:55
micadeyeyechmod 600 nova*15:56
tjoymicadeyeye: mount the vm image and dig through /root/.ssh and /etc/password and /etc/shadow15:56
tjoyfind out if there's a username you should be using15:56
tjoyalso find the documentation for the image package you downloaded15:57
tjoyfind out who made it and bother them15:57
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Leandermjfork: is there any command line tool available to teste the openstack api? if not how can use it with the euca2ools?15:58
mjforknot away of one off hand15:59
Leanderdo the euca2ools still work now, or does it require more configuration changes?16:00
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Leandermjfork: do i need to change the nova.conf file to enable openstack api?16:04
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mjforkLeander: no, just the pastes16:06
heyhoIs there a way to use nova-volume via dashboard? Or via nova-manage without using eucatools?16:06
Leandermjfork: so the euca-* commands still work then? What's the url to invoke the openstack api?16:07
mjforkLeander: no, euca won't16:08
mjforkyou have other steps to setup novarc right16:08
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mjforkheyho, only in devel version i believe, not diablo16:08
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Leandermjfork: no euca then, but how do i access the openstack api, i can't find the url anyhere :S16:09
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Spirilisthere is a 'nova' cli command Leander16:13
Spiriliscomes from the "python-novaclient" package16:13
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Spirilisand if you run Horizon (the Dashboard), that internally uses the native openstack API if I'm not mistaken16:13
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Spirilisotherwise everything can be hit with curl too... probably have to dive into the developer docs to see the semantics of how to use that16:14
Spiriliseuca2ools can work, if you've set up EC2 credential tokens for your user in keystone16:15
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LeanderSpirilis: thanks for the pointer, but i still can't figure out where the URL is for the API :S16:16
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aferrariHi guys...16:17
aferrarican recomend what keystone version use?16:17
aferrarii have running swift16:17
aferrariinto my lab16:17
aferrariusing tempauth16:18
SpirilisLeander: URL for the API is basically keystone, so in my .bashrc I set this:  http://<keystoneserver>:5000/v2.0/16:18
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Spirilisfor euca2ools, it's the url of the nova-api server, so http://<nova-api-server>:8773/services/Cloud/16:18
Spirilisthat would be the EC2_URL fyi16:18
Spirilissorry that first url, I set NOVA_URL to that.16:18
Spirilisalso make sure to set NOVA_PROJECT_ID=<tenant>, and NOVA_VERSION=1.116:19
Spirilisand also NOVA_USERNAME, NOVA_PASSWORD16:19
Spirilisthen running "nova list" should work.. and show you whatever instances are running (or none, an empty table, if none are running)16:19
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LeanderSpirilis: how do get the API key for my user?16:21
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LeanderSpirilis: please forgive me if there's a sort of manual wiki which details these procedures, but i can't seem to locate any :/16:24
SpirilisLeander: you actually don't need an api key16:24
Spirilisthe way it works, from what I gather, is that Keystone has 3 ways of authenticating you.16:25
Spirilis1. Using your username and password, along with a tenant16:25
Spirilis2. Using a single string, called an API key, which must be stored in keystone's "token" table and keystone looks up the token in that table to find your username & tenant (you can use this to generate tokens that will become hard-coded in cloud-aware applications, for example)16:26
LeanderSpirilis: the nova command insists on asking for an API-KEY :/16:26
Spirilis3. Using EC2 credentials, in which case you hit nova-api with an EC2 access key and secret key, nova-api asks keystone if it knows who the heck you are based on those, and keystone should reply with your user & tenant if it finds that in its "credentials" table16:26
Spirilisah k, it's possible that's just its way of saying "permission denied"16:26
Leanderit does the same for the admin user16:27
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Spirilispop into the mysql database, look at keystone's database.  make sure your username & password match what's in there, and you're using a tenant that's correct16:27
Spirilisand also make sure the user has been assigned some roles for that tenant16:27
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Leanderi don't think keystone is using mysql at the moment16:28
Leanderalso i have to leave for a while, i'm still in a confused state16:29
Leanderi'll be back16:29
Leanderthanks for your help so far mjfork and Spirilis16:29
Spirilisah k, well, check whatever db type it's using :)  sqlite probably16:29
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aferrariguys is the latest keystone version from openstack github working well?16:29
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aferrarii see a few forks into cloudbuilders git too16:30
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SpirilisI'm using the latest stable/diablo, works fine for me... not sure what the latest essex is like16:30
SpirilisI'm only using it with nova and glance though, not swift16:30
Spirilismight have to get adventurous with my swift POC install soon...16:30
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spackestmjfork: my system is in a funny state, like euca-describe-images times out, think I will just try wiping.  so to get to where I was, I use an interfaces file with only eth0 and sometime I run UPDATE networks SET bridge_interface = 'eth0'?17:04
mjforkyour conf is wrong17:05
mjforkspackest: pastebin your conf17:05
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spackestyeah, that br100 for vlan probably isn't right, huh? :)17:06
mjforkforgot to specify that last night :-(17:07
spackestit's in the bug that I read several times, so I should have remembered17:07
spackestbut the bug says --vlan_interface=eth1, is that right?  I didn't configure eth117:07
mjforkyeah..point is it needs ot be eth017:08
mjforkeerrr an eth dev17:08
spackestso --vlan_interface=eth0 ?17:08
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spackesthave this conf restarted all the services and still timing out on euca-describe-images17:11
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mjforkcan you reboot17:16
mjforkreset all networking17:16
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spackestsure, rebooting :)17:17
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spackestfor some reason my /dev/sdb doesn't mount properly sometimes and when I try to mount it I get some bad magic number error17:18
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spackestmaybe I will just try loopback17:23
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LeanderSpirilis: you there?17:23
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anplI trying to create an RHEL variant ( SL 6.1) AMI for openstack17:25
anplI started the KVM vm installation17:25
SpirilisLeander: yo17:25
anplwhen I setup the network should I keep it as DHCP or disabled17:26
spackestI do wonder why talks about /dev/sda6 but then uses /dev/sdb1 for much of the rest17:26
spackestI guess the guide does say "You can substitute the correct device name of this dedicated partition based on your local setup while following the instructions."17:27
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spackestbut the guide doesn't "We have referred to this partition in the rest of the chapter as /dev/sda6." it sometimes uses /dev/sdb117:27
LeanderSpirilis: i have two users admin and demo, both keep displaying this error: "You must provide an API key, eithervia --apikey or viaenv[NOVA_API_KEY] " when running :nova --username admin list17:28
spackestannegentle: any word on a new getting started guide?  not sure if you saw my message, but I couldn't see it in what I built17:28
LeanderSpirilis: both were created with
Leandercreated with the commands in this link17:30
Leanderhowever i can't find out how to obtain an api key17:31
mjforki think that is a keystone key17:33
mjforkkeystone token17:33
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Spirilisyeah what about setting NOVA_USERNAME, NOVA_PASSWORD (to admin and admin, as it appears your admin password is just "admin") then the rest of the variables I mentioned (NOVA_PROJECT_ID=admin, NOVA_VERSION=1.1) and run "nova list" without the --username option17:36
Spirilisnow one thing I noticed is your admin user doesn't have the role "sysadmin" and/or "netadmin" to the admin tenant17:36
Spirilisso you might want to run:17:36
Spiriliskeystone-manage role grant sysadmin admin admin17:36
Spiriliskeystone-manage role grant netadmin admin admin17:37
Spirilisotherwise I'm guessing the "nova" cmds won't succeed since they don't technically have access to pull that info...17:37
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anplwhen creating openstack ami, what should be the network setting? deafualt eth0/dhcp will do?17:39
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Leanderi've also set the variables and still asks me for an API_KEY17:41
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anpli have created centos.img using qemu-kvm and need to upload it to glance17:47
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anplhow can i do that, i use fedora and do not have uec-publish command17:47
Leanderi think this might help you17:48
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SpirilisLeander: ahh durr, my bad, you have to "create" the sysadmin and netadmin roles in keystone first :-)17:49
Spiriliskeystone-manage role add sysadmin17:49
Spiriliskeystone-manage role add netadmin17:49
Spirilis*then* run the cmds I posted above :)17:49
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anplThanks Leander, I had used this and launched the ubuntu instances already17:50
anplusing dashboard n glance commands17:50
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anplbut now i have a .img file17:50
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anplthose steps talks about ari, aki and ami17:51
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anplhow about img?17:51
LeanderSpirilis: still getting the "You must provide an API key, eithervia --apikey or viaenv[NOVA_API_KEY]"17:51
anpli mean .img created using qemu-kvm vm installation17:51
Leanderanpl: sorry, can't help you any further :/ it's the only thing i know how to do so far17:52
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Leanderhave you tried the official documentation for glance?17:52
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LeanderSpirilis: i've got to run, is there any documentation i can read to get up to date with generating these keys, i can't find anything in the official documentation17:59
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SpirilisLeander: dunno, I think mjfork helped me figure that one out last month... I don't recall any good docs on it.18:03
SpirilisWhat I can guarantee for you is that you DON'T have to create an api key.  Not sure what's breaking down here18:03
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SpirilisThat api key error is a generic error I think (and rather silly IMO)18:04
Leanderi guess i'll see you guys again on monday18:04
Leanderhave a nice weekend18:04
Leanderthanks for the help so far18:04
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mjforkwhat did i help with?18:07
SpirilisI think you were helping me fumble through getting the 'nova' cmd to work18:07
Spirilissetting the various NOVA_* variables, etc18:08
mjforki think kiall has teh working novarc18:08
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ppradhananpl: hello18:14
ppradhananpl: I have keystone and horizon installed and running. when I login It says unathorized ..
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anplppradhan: hi, sorry I was away18:32
ppradhananpl: no problem18:33
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anplppradhan: paste bin your keystone-manage commands you used for creating users n endpointtemplates18:34
warikI can't use keystone-manage, i get:   ImportError: cannot import name joinedload18:34
anplmjfork: you there?18:35
ppradhananpl: here it is
ppradhananpl: the keystone-manage binary i used is at openstack-keystone-3275af7/bin18:36
anplppradhan: how to access that url please send full url18:37
mjforkwhats up?18:38
ppradhananpl: you mean the pastebin's url?18:38
anplmjfork: hi , I have created a .img file using qemu-kvm, I do not have ubuntu n wec-publish commands18:38
anplppradhan: yes18:38
ppradhananpl: this didnot work?18:39
anplmjfork: ho wcan I get ari and aki and ami files for uploading with glance command18:40
mjforkyou need to upload an image to use?18:40
oubiwannis there a community coordinator for OpenStack? for example, someone who would be involved in promoting development sprints, etc.?18:40
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anplppradhan: openstack-keystone-3275af7/bin/user list  ? and pastebin keystonelog18:44
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mjforkoubiwann: ttx is the release manager18:45
anplmjfork:  i do not have lucid-server-cloudimg-amd64-loader, the ari n aki files, should i use host machines /boot files?18:46
oubiwannmjfork: yup18:46
ppradhananpl: keystone.log is empty and here is ther user list
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anplppradhan: tenant is empty, i guess you should add admin to a tenant18:47
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anplppradhan: no thats fine18:48
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ppradhananpl: yes I can see admin if i do tenant list18:49
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mjforkanpl get that file and unzip18:50
mjforkall 3 are there18:50
mjforkppradhan: what is the issue you have?18:50
anplmjfork: thanks18:50
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ppradhanCan't login to dashboard. getting Unauthorized error
ppradhanmjfork:  I was referring to your link
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mjforkbin/keystone-manage token list18:52
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ppradhanI can see the token
koolhead17hola Razique18:53
koolhead17annegentle: hey there18:53
jkyleglance details only shows public images, how do I show _all_ images currently registered?18:53
mjforkpaste dashbaord conf18:53
jkyleglance index shows some, is that all of them?18:54
anplmjfork: i am confused which files in the kvm host machine's/boot18:54
mjforkanpl not sure what you are asking18:54
anplmjfork: ls -l /boot
anplmjfork: how to get the ari n aki files18:55
mjforkanpl not sure what you are doing?18:55
mjforkdo you just want an image in glance?18:55
ppradhanmjfork: here
anplmjfork: yes, i am trying to create a custom image. I created a .img file using qem-kvm18:56
anplmjfork: now i am trying to add it using glance command18:57
Raziquehey mjfork :)18:57
Raziquekoolhead17: hoi :)18:57
Raziqueanpl hello18:57
koolhead17Razique: i don`t see many old timers here :(18:58
Raziquewhat old timers means ?18:58
anplmjfork: lucid-server-cloudimg-amd64-loader is it the initrd ?18:58
anplrazique hi18:58
mjforkppradhan: what credentials are you using?18:58
koolhead17vid and others :)18:58
mjforkanpl i have not done a custom iamge18:58
koolhead17hey soren18:58
Raziquemaybe the TZ ?18:58
mjforkppradhan: and bin/keystone-manage user list18:59
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anplmjfork: thanjks, I think i got it now19:01
ppradhanmjfork: this is what i have done
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mjforkare you logging in as admin/admin19:08
mjforkppradhan: ^19:08
mjforkppradhan: hmm, those look like mine :-)19:08
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mjforkppradhan: did you also follow my directions for dashbaord/keystone ?19:09
ppradhanmjfork: yes eveything followed from there19:09
mjforkdid you restart dashboard / kesytone?19:10
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mjfork(can't imagine it matterS :-()19:10
ppradhani did19:10
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mjforkis this on login, or do you get in and then see this?19:11
ppradhanno I couldnt get in19:11
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mjforkppradhan: pastebin keystone log19:11
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anplmjfork: I used ram disk and kernel from /boot of the kvm host19:13
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ppradhanmjfork: its empty. I am looking at bin/keystone.log19:13
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mjforkneed console where it was launched19:14
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ppradhanmjfork: may be horizon not hitting keystone?19:17
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mjforkdo you have the console where you launched bin/keystone?19:17
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ppradhanmjfork: yes19:18
mjforkis verbose on?19:18
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ppradhanhow do  i check that19:19
mjforkcheck keystone conf19:19
ppradhanthis is what i am seeing
mjforkopen keystone conf and check for verbose/debug19:20
mjforkset both to true19:20
ppradhanok got this in keystone window when i try to login
mjforkppradhan: can you paste SELECT * FROM users; run against sqllite319:25
mjforksqlite3 keystone.db19:25
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ppradhanmjfork: i think I only have sqlite not sqlte3 . does this matter?19:28
mjforki don't think19:28
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ppradhanmjfork: here it is19:31
ppradhanI can see keystone.db in 2 locations19:32
ppradhanone is at bin/19:32
ppradhanand other is at one step back19:32
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ppradhanand that o/p is from bin/keystone.db.. the other one is empty..19:33
mjforkppradhan: matches mine, save the password.19:34
mjforkcan you verify you ran ./keystone-manage user add admin admin19:34
ppradhanI can see admin at ./keyston-manage user list19:35
mjforkno, with that password19:36
mjforkcheck your history19:36
ppradhani only did keystone-manage user add admin admin19:38
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ppradhanmjfork:  how to add user with the password? I think I am not getting you19:44
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aferrarihi guys, I need help for sync my keystone db19:47
aferrariException: Database (sqlite:///keystone.db) is not up to date (current=0, latest=10); run `keystone-manage database sync` or override your migrate version manually (see docs)19:48
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aferrarisome advice?19:48
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aferrarihow i can override the version manually?19:48
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mjforkppradhan: try desteroying keystone.db and start over20:01
mjforkrerun all openstack commands20:01
mjforkaferrari: do you have any data in your keystone?20:01
uvirtbotNew bug: #916199 in keystone "AttributeError: 'Service' object has no attribute 'description'  " [Undecided,In progress]
aferrariyes I have created some users20:02
aferraribut I can delete if needed20:02
mjforktry renaming your existing DB20:02
mjforkand restart keystone20:02
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ppradhanmjfork: I can see keystone.db at 3 places. openstack-keystone/etc , openstack-ketstone/bin and openstack-keystone. which one is the correc one?20:04
aferrarii think keystone.db is create where you are into the console20:05
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ppradhanhmm.. but which one keystone reads20:07
mjforkall depends on where you lanched it perhpas20:09
Spirilisyeesh I am happy I switched my keystone to using mysql when I did it up20:11
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ppradhanmjfork: instead of bin/keystone i did : cd bin && ./keystone. now I am in.. but seeing lots of errors20:13
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ppradhanmjfork: this is what i see
aferrari<Spirilis> can share your steps ?20:16
Spirilisaferrari: very easy, edit /etc/keystone/keystone.conf (or whatever you're using for keystone's config) and change the "sql_connection" string20:16
aferrarican post in pastebin your keystone.conf?20:17
aferrariare you using this with swift?20:17
Spirilisto something like this: sql_connection = mysql://keystone:nobodyseesthispassword@
SpirilisI am not using it with swift atm.  that shouldn't matter though20:17
aferrariok perfect20:17
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aferrariand the db schema?20:17
Spiriliscreate a 'keystone' db in a mysql database, grant all privileges on keystone.* to keystone@localhost identified by 'nobodyseesthispassword';20:17
aferrariok and the schema?20:18
Spirilisand grant all privileges on keystone.* to keystone@'%' identified by 'nobodyseesthispassword';20:18
Spirilisfrom what I can tell, keystone-manage generates the schema or there is some database sync cmd20:18
Spirilislet me find it20:18
mjforksorry - tied up on phone20:18
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Spirilisactually no I don't think there is a "preload" cmd.  keystone might just set up the schema when it starts or when you first run keystone-manage20:19
aferrariok perfect... some one into the chat are using keystone with swift?20:19
Spirilisbear in mind that mysql:// syntax... mysql://<user>:<password>@<mysqlserver>/<mysqlDB> works with the sql string for nova, glance, etc. too20:20
aferrarithe doc is a little confuse and the git have diferent intructions than doc20:20
Spirilisnah, I may be tackling this one soon myself though.  tieing swift into keystone20:20
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Spirilisswift was my first POC but it's just sitting around doing nothing (running 1.4.3 with swauth)20:21
aferrarii have running with tempauth20:21
aferraribut the control is poor20:21
aferrariI need something for make public tenant20:21
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Spirilisswauth was alright, but, I'd vastly prefer keystone I think20:22
newopeni try to install dashboard on centos but i meet many problems20:22
aferrariyes my too with centos have package issue20:23
aferrarican't install swift into them20:23
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aferrarii need switch to ubuntu20:23
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newopencan you give me an exemple of keystone.conf file?20:23
newopenor a tuto of dashboard instalation with the configuration of keystone20:24
ppradhanmjfork:  is this related to incorrect token ?
mjforkppradhan: api-paste.ini on nova controller20:27
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mjforkand if keystone is enabled...then make sure openstackx is isntalled and verify os_api_extensinos dir is pointing at a folder with admin.py20:29
newopenkeystone-manage doesen't work20:30
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ppradhanmjfork: ok checking20:32
Spirilisfwiw, this is my (working) keystone.conf:
newopenwhen i configure keystone and i run OPENSTACK_ADMIN_TOKEN,it show me an eroor:attribute error none type20:34
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spackestmjfork: well euca-describe-images still times out.  pondering reinstalling 11.10 and trying devstack20:38
spackestfeels pretty close, but I don't know how to debug20:38
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uvirtbotNew bug: #916219 in nova "Per-userness of "nova list" is confused" [Undecided,New]
newopenwhat about ERROR: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'id' when i run keystone-manage token add20:43
DJ-RPM-rollgood day!  after rebooting a nova-network host, is there a trick that one might employ to access the instances on nodes behind it?  (Vlan mode, here)...   i can see the vnet MAC addresses when i examine the bridge interface, but they don't get registered in the arp cache on the nova-network server after reboot... anyone have a strategy for dealing with this?20:43
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mjforkspackest: keystone auth or nova auth?20:44
spackestI did install keystone, but would that be getting in the way of describing images?20:45
mjforkeuca2ools + kesytone doesn't work well20:50
kbringardusing this script to add users to keystone works well for me20:52
kbringardit creates ec2 keys and assigns sysadmin and netadmin roles20:52
kbringardand dumps out a novarc that you should be able to use to use the euca2ools20:52
spackestnova image-list also is timing out20:53
Spirilisah I was looking for that earlier :)20:53
Spirilisthx for the link20:53
kbringardyour milage may vary, but it works well for me20:54
SpirilisLOL oh that's funny, I went to bookmark that one and it turns out I had it bookmarked20:54
Spirilisjust didn't notice it...20:54
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ppradhanmjfork: openstackx is installed. where do I set osapi_extensions?21:07
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mjforkppradhan: nova.conf21:10
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ppradhanmjfork: can you paste your os_api line from you nova.conf?21:13
mjforkit poitns at a dir named extesnions21:13
mjforkwith a file named admin.py21:13
mjforkcan't get now21:14
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Spirilisppradhan: --osapi_extensions_path=/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/openstackx-0.2-py2.7.egg/extensions21:18
Spirilisbear in mind I installed mine all from git, no rpm or .deb packages or whatever21:18
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japhar81Anyone have any thoughts on swift-container-sync does not exist? trying to follow the startup doc, and swift-init rest start is bombing21:20
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praefectdamn! I lost that piece of info! anyone remember what the switch is to force the destination-NAT to a specific API server for the metadata queries?21:21
ppradhanSpirilis: ok.. checking21:21
praefectthe redirection to 8773 to grab teh metadata21:21
praefectthank you21:21
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Spirilispraefect: --ec2_dmz_host on each nova-compute node?21:23
praefectYES!!! i think this is it.. many thanks21:23
Spirilison each nova-network node, actually.21:23
Spirilisit's only read by nova-network IIRC21:23
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praefectthat's right21:24
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japhar81so ive followed the beginners guide line by line -- twice now -- i keep getting swift-container-sync does not exist when i bring up swift rest, and the test curl call returns HTTP/50021:43
japhar81anyone see this before?21:43
notmynamejaphar81: my guess for swift-container-sync is that it wasn't packaged properly in whatever you used to install it. for the 500 error, check syslog to see where the source of the error is21:44
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japhar81i used apt-get per the guide21:46
japhar81is there another source i can use?21:46
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japhar81and is there a separate syslog for swift? i dont see any errors21:48
notmynamewhat version of swift are you using?21:48
notmynameswift used syslog to log. your syslog configuration may redirect that to other locations21:49
japhar81looks like 1.4.3-0ubuntu221:50
japhar81syslog isnt redirected21:50
japhar81i see container-replicator and account-replicator21:50
japhar81just dont see errors21:50
japhar81ok, caught the error, but it's not exactly useful..21:52
japhar81error with PUT21:52
japhar81permission denied /srv/4/node/sdb4/accounts21:53
japhar81but i dont have a /srv?21:54
notmynamejaphar81: looks like you need to change the "devices" config variable in your account-server.conf21:55
ppradhanmjfork: the example api-pase.ini file from openstack-keystone/example/paste should be changed or I can just overwrie the old one from this?21:56
mjforkppradhan: what is issue?21:57
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japhar81i dont have a devices config in account-server.conf.. (using
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notmynamejaphar81: just about all of the config options for swift are described here:
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ppradhanmjfork: is now pointed.. after login I am getting this error
notmynamejaphar81: also, you can look at the source tree ( for all of the sample configs (they are very well documented21:59
mjforkppradhan: out of sync openstackx and nova i am guessing22:00
mjforki need to run.22:00
ppradhanmjfork:  ok..22:00
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japhar81got it --thanks!22:03
DJ-RPM-rollafter rebooting a nova-network host, is there a trick that one might employ to access the instances on nodes behind it?  (Vlan mode, here)...   i can see the vnet MAC addresses when i examine the bridge interface, but they don't get registered in the arp cache on the nova-network server after reboot... manually adding them doesn't work... making the if promisc also doesn't work..  anyone have a strategy for dealing with this... or am i hosed?22:03
DJ-RPM-rolldnsmasq.conf contains all of the proper MACs as well22:04
DJ-RPM-rolliptables look sane..22:05
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anplany one have success in creating custom Redhat/Scientific Linux/CentOS ami22:13
uvirtbotNew bug: #916267 in nova "Nova manage blows up with missing flag" [Medium,In progress]
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RobinClowershello openstack22:22
RobinClowersanyone help me getting off the ground?22:22
RobinClowersI am trying to set up devstack on unbuntu 11.1022:22
DJ-RPM-rollgood luck getting any help in here :)22:22
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spackestRobinClowers: have you tried ?22:23
RobinClowersyeah, that's what I'm using22:23
RobinClowersgot through the install, says everything is successful22:23
spackestI have been trying to launch an instance for I think over a week22:23
RobinClowersI can get to the horizon dashboard22:23
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spackestI'm just switching to devstack22:23
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spackestit is running right now22:23
RobinClowersbut all the ecua commands fails22:24
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RobinClowersand I created an instance in the dashboard22:24
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spackesthave you tried the nova commands?  I hear they might work better22:24
RobinClowersbut it does not show up when I do nova-manage instance list22:24
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RobinClowersalso, the devstack readme says at the end you should be able to do nova list22:25
RobinClowersbut I get an error saying "Invalid OpenStack Nova credentials"22:25
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RobinClowersI checked, and the environment variables are loaded22:25
fractal_synapsehi All22:25
fractal_synapseIs there anyone here who can help answer a crowbar question?22:27
RobinClowersthanks for the suggestion spackest22:27
spackesthmm, well, just finished, I do nova-manage instance list and get something about no such table: instance_types22:27
RobinClowersyeah I had that too22:27
spackestguessing I need a db sync?22:28
RobinClowerstry nova-manage db sync22:28
RobinClowersthat is supposed to set up the db for you22:28
spackestyeah, much better22:28
RobinClowersreally lame that devstack does not actually work out of the box :/22:28
RobinClowersI'm sure a lot of people work hard on it22:28
spackestand the getting started guide doesn't either in my experience22:29
fractal_synapsehas anyon here built discovery images for the openstack diablo/crowbar?22:29
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spackestRobinClowers: does the /nova/images_and_snapshots/ link for you on your main host?22:30
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spackestI get an error that says The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.22:30
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spackestI was going there to start an instance22:30
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RobinClowersyou mean in the dashboard?22:31
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RobinClowershmm, no22:33
RobinClowersI'm on stable/diablo branch because I thought it might work better22:33
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RobinClowersand I think the dashboard is a bit different than the master branch version22:33
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spackesthow did you launch an instance?22:35
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RobinClowersthat lists images, clicked launch22:35
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RobinClowers /dash/2/images22:36
RobinClowersthat's the path I ended up on22:36
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RobinClowersI believe the 2 is the demo use id22:36
spackesthmm, now that link works for me.  how very strange22:37
RobinClowersso you must be on the master version of devstack?22:38
RobinClowersI think that installs essex rather than diablo22:38
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spackestI launched an instance, the dashboard says it's active, but it has ip of  looks like my FLOATING_RANGE was ignored22:41
RobinClowerscan you see the logs?22:42
RobinClowersor vnc to it?22:42
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RobinClowersmine says it launched but I can't get to it22:42
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spackestno on vnc, but it looks like that should have been FIXED_RANGE for me22:43
RobinClowershow do you set the ip ranges?22:43
RobinClowersI have seen reference to that but never quite understood it22:43
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spackestlooks like the FIXED_RANGE is the range of ip addresses for the launched instances to use?  like mine is
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spackestwell, now when I launch the dashboard just says Error for my wouldbe instance22:51
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spackestguess I should be doing this on a vm for easier wipes and restarts :)22:53
RobinClowersis FIXED_RANGE an environment variable?22:53
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RobinClowersyeah working in a vm is nice22:53
RobinClowersI am using virtualbox, it seems to work ok22:53
RobinClowersyeah I don't have that set22:53
spackestit is one you can set before you run stack.sh22:53
RobinClowersoh I see22:54
spackestI read through this a bit
spackestfound a few things that I am now setting22:54
RobinClowersyeah I found that too22:55
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RobinClowersdo you know where log files are stored?22:58
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RobinClowerswondering if we can dig into those to get some more detail about why things aren't working22:59
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RobinClowers@spackest do you know where logs are stored?23:01
larissaRobinClowers: Error: "spackest" is not a valid command.23:01
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ashvaibhavNeed to compare eucalyptus and openstack for my implementation. What are the cons of using eucalyptus over openstack?23:02
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tjoydoes eucalyptus still reserve some features for its paid tier?23:04
spackest1RobinClowers: I can shell in as the stack user and then do "screen -x stack" page through the screen <control-A><control-N> and see some logs being tailed23:04
ashvaibhav@tjoy: I did not find any such thing till now... eucalyptus too seems to be totally free23:05
larissaashvaibhav: Error: "tjoy:" is not a valid command.23:05
ashvaibhavtjoy: I did not find any such thing till now... eucalyptus too seems to be totally free23:06
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spackest1hmm, they used to be in places like /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log when I installed via package23:07
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RobinClowersyeah it looks like devstack redirects logs to syslog23:07
tjoythat was what i could find over the course of a couple minutes23:09
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tjoynot conclusive as to whether they are still expecting money for the software itself though23:09
tjoymaybe ask in ##eucalyptus23:09
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ashvaibhavokay... thanks tjoy for that. Any other benefit of using openstack except that it is completely free for all the features23:10
anplHow can23:10
anplhow can I get nova credentials for openstack with keystone and dashboard23:11
tjoyashvaibhav: i am sadly not up to speed on what eucalyptus does these days23:11
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ashvaibhavtjoy - no probs... Still had a few questions regarding open stack like, how are its storage services provided?23:12
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tjoyashvaibhav: there are a few flavors of storage services, what exactly are you referring to?23:13
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tjoydo you mean volumes like amazon EBS? blobs like amazon S3? just vm images?23:13
ashvaibhavblobs and volumes23:14
ashvaibhavI guess images also can be handled by these,,, right?23:15
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tjoy'images' wasn't very descriptive of me. storage for active vms is what i meant23:16
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tjoyvolumes are done through various iscsi drivers23:16
tjoyif you have a solaris storage server, for instance, you can export volumes from that23:16
tjoyor there's a nova volume service that will serve out lvm volumes23:16
tjoythere are others but i can't name them23:16
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tjoyblobs can be provided by glance for small loads, or swift for large ones23:17
tjoyglance is generally just for vm images23:17
tjoylive storage for vms can be on volumes or local storage on the nodes23:17
ashvaibhavok... I guess I need to understand the basic architecture a bit more23:18
tjoyright, eucalyptus crams lots of services on one control node23:18
tjoyor at least it did 2 years ago23:18
tjoyopenstack can work that way but any service can run on its own machine, provided that it can communicate with the rest of it all23:19
tjoyso there's nova-api to communicate with users, nova-volume to serve out iscsi, nova-compute to run VMs, etc23:19
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ashvaibhavok... and is it that openstack works only over KVM and cant work over XEN?23:21
tjoythe reference installations are mostly kvm, but there are various xen drivers23:21
tjoyxen via libvirt and xen via xen-api23:22
tjoythere are also drivers for more hypervisors, like lxc23:22
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ashvaibhavI heard that KVM runs only on virtual extensions of Intel VT and AMD - V... is this correct? sorry loads of questions, quite a novice in this field...23:23
tjoyyes kvm needs cpu extensions23:23
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ashvaibhavdoes this gives XEN an edge over KVM?23:24
tjoyxen's paravirtualization can be faster, all things being equal23:25
tjoybut xen can only run operating systems that are coded to work with xen in paravirtualized mode23:25
tjoyyou need CPU extensions to run, for instance, windows under xen23:25
ashvaibhavok... I guess I understood a little bit. thanks a lot. shall explore more and then come back to the channel. :)23:26
tjoygood luck23:26
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ashvaibhavwell... everything is a bit too confusing for me... could you please suggest few places to start reading and understsanding from23:27
ashvaibhavI need to set up a cloud from scratch23:28
tjoysure. what is your goal?23:28
ashvaibhavso that my machine learning algos may run over them23:28
tjoywhat OSes are your guests?23:28
ashvaibhavcentOS for now23:29
tjoywhat do you need from the cloud, exactly? would you be better off running a grid platform like hadoop or slurm?23:29
ashvaibhavbut I would want as much flexibility as possible23:29
ashvaibhavyap.. hadoop is what I plan23:29
ashvaibhavmyhadoop kind of thing23:29
tjoywell for ease of setup i recommend openstack with kvm. if you really need performance, you could go with xen paravirt, but openstack/xen isn't as well-documented as kvm23:30
tjoyyou might spend more time setting up xen than you would save running your code23:30
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ashvaibhavbut openstack provides full support i.e. all required drivers for XEN23:31
tjoypackaging can really differ23:32
tjoyall the code is there to run xen23:32
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spackest1anyone here that maintains devstack?  I know they're easy fixes, but on why not say you'll need to install git, and use the http:// protocol instead of git:// since firewalls like my work one won't allow git:// traffic23:32
tjoyyou might need to tune it yourself though23:32
tjoymy personal project is to run xen under openstack and i haven't gotten all the way there yet23:32
tjoyalthough i have just recently acquired decent hardware to do it on23:33
tjoyi was trying to run on 32-bit P4s before and it wasn't happening23:33
spackest1and add "sudo nova-manage db sync" somewhere in stack.sh23:33
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tjoybut it's a free-time project for me, so my progress shouldn't reflect on how hard it is to do23:34
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