Tuesday, 2012-04-24

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warikhi! is there a way to test the EC2 credentials ?00:54
warikrather that using euca2ools?00:54
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mjforkcreiht: 3 part series starting here http://www.stephenbroeker.com/2012/02/08/openstack-swift-database-performance-part-1/01:54
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Drew442is there anyone around that can help me with nova?03:11
Drew442i'm following this guide https://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-4-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin/step-6-your-first-vm03:12
Drew442i'm importing the key03:12
Drew442and it keeps saying ERROR: You must provide a username via either --os_username or env[OS_USERNAME]03:12
Drew442using the switch doesnt work03:12
Drew442using the variable doesnt work03:13
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LarsErikPWith Quantum and Melange, will i be able to realize this? "two projects have a virtual internal network i.e" I dont' mean they should connect to the _same_ logical network, but that they each have a logical network with the same address07:23
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zykes-_LarsErikP: melange is getting merged with quantum btw07:46
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LarsErikPzykes-_: ah.. but, will i be able to accomplish the scenario above?07:51
zykes-_LarsErikP: not sure, cause I think you would get on the nova network node the same gw twice07:52
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uksysadminmorning all...07:57
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LarsErikPuksysadmin: do you know much about quantum/melange?07:58
LarsErikPmorning btw :p07:58
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zykes-_nicolas2b: did you have some problems with ovs + quantum ?08:00
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nicolas2bHi zykes-_, yes got problem see here https://answers.launchpad.net/quantum/+question/19425308:01
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uksysadminLarsErikP, I know enough to understand quantum - but never used it08:09
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zykes-_nicolas2b: is the problem that it doesn't create a gw interface?08:20
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nicolas2bzykes-_ : nope, the interface are created.08:23
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zykes-_mine isn't creating the gw interfaces08:29
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LarsErikPuksysadmin: just wondered, with melange and quantum, can i create two tenants, and let them have a virtual internal network with the same address?08:34
LarsErikPuksysadmin: like, Tenant1 has internal net and so has Tenant2, but the two nets are not the same logical net..08:35
LarsErikPif i manage to explain that.. :p08:35
zynzelLarsErikP: if you use vlan per project this should work ;)08:37
zynzelbut i dont use quantum/melange.08:37
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ondergetekendeHow functional is support for windows guests? especially provisioning09:10
ondergetekendeAnd is any specific hypervisor recommended for windows guests?09:10
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LarsErikPI see there are support for a Cisco plugin in Quantum. Is VXLAN yet implemented in this one?09:40
LainesHi i have some trouble to launch an instance in horizon it gives me an error at task networking09:41
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Laineshere is my config file: http://pastebin.com/6WL2mzPE09:42
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koolhead17Is "default quota" meant per tenant?10:32
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uksysadminLarsErikP, I'm not entirely sure. My gut feeling is yes - or at least they can share the same network but through quantum they can't see each other's guests anyway.11:25
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koolhead17uksysadmin, hi there11:35
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Laineskoolhead17, Hi!11:35
koolhead17Laines, howdy?11:36
Laineskoolhead17, i have the full setup working now :)11:36
koolhead17Laines, awesome.11:36
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LarsErikPuksysadmin: i didn't mean the tenants should share the network. I wanted them to have to separate virtual networks, with the same subnet..11:43
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LarsErikPs/to/two in the last sentence...11:44
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uksysadminLarsErikP, I can't really help you - I've only seen quantum in presentations11:49
uksysadminhi koolhead1711:50
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koolhead17uksysadmin, ;ong time.11:52
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LarsErikPuksysadmin: no prob, i wan't actually gonna try it. Just for my thesis :p12:04
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LainesHi, i have launched an image with 10GB  Disk (m1.small) where are the 10Gb located?12:10
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LarsErikPhi.. SNAT in OpenStack means Static Nat right?12:31
primeministerpsource nat12:31
LarsErikPi see there are different meanings of the SNAT abbriveation12:31
LarsErikPsource nat. right. tnx12:31
primeministerpvs dnat12:31
primeministerpdestination nat12:32
LarsErikPCisco calls SNAT static NAT :p and that's just one-to-one mapping12:32
primeministerpcisco also calls LACP etherchannel12:32
LarsErikPbut i did learn this stuff from Cisco :p don't know better :p12:33
primeministerpi'm just saying12:34
LarsErikPWikipedia says that SNAT is stateful NAT in Cisco terms... but Cisco themselves say Static NAT,,12:34
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foexlekoolhead17: hola amigo :>12:42
koolhead17foexle, wassup there?12:43
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foexlenot that much ... i'm a little bit happy about my testing env (essex + lxc)12:46
foexlekoolhead17: and you ? :)12:46
koolhead17foexle, lxc is my next aim.12:47
koolhead17well trying to get vnc working which i been failing all this while :(12:47
foexlevnc :/ oh yeah .... that isn't a little goal12:48
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foexlebut lxc is nice ... verry quick12:49
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koolhead17foexle, i been failing on it for sometime :P12:51
koolhead17apart from that everything is rocking12:52
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koolhead17foexle, have you documented your exp with LXC with openstack somewhere? It be cool to have in our official manual. <-- annegentle  :D13:24
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kippiI have got openstack installed and working13:27
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kippiwant to get the dashboard working, I have installed it from apt-get but when I browse to my host I am just getting "This works page" any howto's that would help me with this?13:28
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koolhead17kippi, did you install dashboard package?13:30
kippikoolhead17: yep13:31
kippiapt-get install -y openstack-dashboard13:31
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kippiwould seem that it's missing it's vhost information13:33
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koolhead17kippi, dpkg -l openstack-dashboard13:35
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kippikoolhead17: ii  openstack-dashboard         0.1~20110825-0ubuntu2       a Django web interface to OpenStack13:36
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koolhead17kippi, gimme a minute. seems like am still on older version13:40
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kippikoolhead17: sorry my machine died14:03
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koolhead17kippi, np.14:06
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kippiyou where saying you are using a older version?14:07
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koolhead17kippi, yes. but am still not able to update my machine cos of slow net :(14:09
kippido you have a copy of your dash config for apache?14:09
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masomHi, i'm having a weird issue with openstack. I've setup a multi-node system (1 controller, 1 compute) and launching instances works fine. My problem is instances cannot reach our office lan, but they can get to the internet (yahoo, google, etc.). I think i'ts probably a routing/iptable rule missing on the compute node running nova-network, anyone can help?14:13
LainesDoes i realy need iscsi to get avolume into an instance?14:13
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koolhead17kippi, i had to do notthing in apache conf last time i installed dash14:16
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kippikoolhead17:  damm14:54
kbringardwait… what are we talking about?14:54
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koolhead17kbringard, missing js from horizon14:57
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kbringardthat aint no good14:58
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koolhead17kbringard, am re-confirming14:59
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kippiis there a own working repo with the dashboard in? Ubuntu15:24
masomkippi: 12.04 has a working dashboard15:25
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kippimasom: so upgrade my server to 12.04?15:30
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masomkippi: That's a possibiliy. I've just upgraded from a single node running scientific linux 6.2 to multi-node openstack essex on ubuntu 12.04. Works like a charm15:35
masomkippi: just don't select the openstack option on the ubuntu install screen, the lxc package is broken and fails the installation.15:35
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StreamTomHello, I'm trying to set up an all-in-one testing machine to learn openstack, but I'm getting in a real mess with networking16:00
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StreamTomBasically I'm trying to understand how you configure a network if you only have one nic, when I read the documentation and guides it seems all geared up for multiple nics16:01
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StreamTomI'm running this on a small network which already has a DHCP server and no clever networks, so I assume I want flat networking, but I don't understand what networks I need to create for my set up16:01
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heckjStreamTom: Most of the docs and such expect multiple nics, but you can totally run it on a single nic.16:02
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StreamTomGood to know it can be done. Is the following correct about ow a single NIC works: [...]16:03
StreamTomYou have a private network, which only the host and the VMS can see, this is a different subnet to your 'real' network (in my case the office)16:03
heckjStreamTom: You can use FlatNetwork, but most folks are using FlatDHCPNetworking and running nova-network on the compute host as well as a controller (assuming a multi-box install)- which takes care of creating your bridges and such for you16:03
StreamTomAh, have I picked up the wrong one? No worries, I was wondering why no-one was using it16:04
StreamTomWhen would you use Flat by itself?16:04
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heckjStreamTom: If this is your first setup, it's worth reading through http://wiki.openstack.org/UnderstandingFlatNetworking, and then using Devstack.org to set things up. It'll do all the heavy lifting for you in the first place, and give you something to refer back to16:04
heckjStreamTom: It's not wrong, but there's an assumption of a lot of knowledge in picking the networking manager.16:05
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StreamTomI've seen the diagram, but it doesn't contain any config examples16:05
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StreamTomI'll take a look at devstack too16:06
annegentleStreamTom: these are the basics, then click Next links or go to the Contents to get more specifics: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-networking-on-the-compute-node.html16:07
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StreamTomThe bit where I'm getting stuck is in trying to create the networks16:08
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cloudflygood morning stack lovers16:09
StreamTomWould you be happy to hear what I've done so far and tell me where I might be going astray16:09
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cloudflypastebins are great for that sort of thing16:09
StreamTomWant my nova.conf?16:09
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jkyleIf I'm looking for installation docs for essex, are the docs.openstack.org/trunk/* docs the proper ones?16:13
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annegentlejkyle: yep, in the May timeframe they'll be at docs.openstack.org/essex16:16
annegentlejkyle: still working, trailing the code a little bit16:16
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annegentlejkyle: but the installation guide is getting pretty tight. Fixed at least a dozen bugs in it last week alone16:17
koolhead17kippi, hi16:17
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jkyleannegentle: this guy? http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/16:20
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jkyleannegentle: looks good, I scanned it. includes multi_host setup by default eh?16:20
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StreamTomHmm, well I've gotten as far as getting an instance to start. But according to euca-get-console-output it's not getting assigned an interface16:30
StreamTomThis makes sense as I have no networks defined, but I can't seem to define a network16:30
annegentlejkyle: that's the one. The idea with that guide is to show "real" deployment practices, hence Mysql and so on.16:30
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annegentleStreamTom: what does the nova-manage network create command return? (should be nothing). Then look up your network entries in your nova database. And look in the logs, natch.16:31
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StreamTomThe error in the logs talks about "count outside of current IP subnet boundary"16:32
StreamTomI'm doing all this on a single network (
StreamTomMy command was 'nova-manage network create 1 10'16:33
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dingdengls -al /etc/keepalived/16:33
StreamTomNow as I understand it that should have created a block for my use at the bottom of the IP range (an area unused by the rest of the network)16:33
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dingdengsorry, pasted to the wrong session...16:34
StreamTomI was tempted to reply with a file listing  dingdeng :P16:34
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StreamTomWhile I'm thinking if I have a single network interface for everything do I still need to set up a bridge?16:35
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StreamTomOh and annegentle, the command just returns "Command failed, please check log for more info" which makes sense16:36
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StreamTomWhat I'm really trying to understand what all the different IP ranges you set during configuration actually _mean_16:38
cloudflyI wonder if there is a nice completely broken down and commented flagfile somewhere16:39
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cloudflyyou can try reading code comments on flag defs in the code16:39
cloudflybut that's not very user friendly.16:39
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StreamTomIt would be nice if the flags were broken down fully somewhere, if I figure it out I'll put it on the wiki16:40
cloudflyi might make a run at it as well16:41
StreamTomWell can someone help me understand what fixed_range is. Is this the IPs that my VMs will get assigned so the outside world can communicate with the,?16:41
cloudflymight be worth to ping the community list to ask about it16:41
cloudflymaybe make it part of the documentation project16:41
cloudflyand submit it to them16:41
cloudflyi believe that's the case16:42
* cloudfly checks his nova.conmf16:42
StreamTomIf I get the time :). Also all the guides I see have two network creation statements16:42
mckrakennot sure what rev that's from16:42
mckrakenbut it's a broken-down listing16:42
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StreamTomThanks cloudfly16:42
StreamTomI'll tell you what baffles me, we have the range in nova.conf, then two creation statements16:43
cloudflyfloating range is publix16:43
cloudflyfixed range is internal16:43
* cloudfly verified16:43
cloudflyalso there's a public interface flag16:43
cloudflyas well16:43
cloudflyto identify which interface is the external route for the fixed range16:43
cloudflyala wan interface16:44
cloudflymckraken that's awesome16:44
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StreamTomSo I have the right sort of fixed range (an unused part of my subnet)16:44
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StreamTomSo the guides I see have two network creation statements, one is 'floating' the other isn't16:45
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StreamTomOne daft question, if I only have a single nic do I still have two IP ranges?16:45
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cloudflyactually yeah openstack is kind of stupid when it comes to networks16:46
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cloudflyit does floating vs fixed and that's it16:46
cloudflywhich is.. IMHO terrible16:46
cloudflyit's pretty opposed to the n-scalable architecture16:46
cloudflybigger fish on the networking stack to fry at the moment16:47
StreamTomSo do I end up with two ranges or not in a single-nic setup?16:47
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cloudflypossibly even more if you are using 802.1q separation16:47
StreamTomAh, so my fixed range in nova.conf should be from a different subnet to my office one16:47
cloudflyit is what the instances get by default16:48
cloudflya sort of instance only dmz16:48
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cloudflythen you can attach floating ips to the instances to make them available outside that dmz16:48
StreamTomSo with nova-manage I would only need to create the floating pool, as the fixed_range has my internal covered?16:48
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cloudflyyou can and probably should define the floating range in the flag file as well16:49
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StreamTomWhat is the relationship between networks defined in nova.conf and those created with the the nova-manage command? Are they the same things, just different user interfaces?16:49
cloudflymy understanding is that floating and fixed networks are fixed values in the whole of openstack but that may have changed16:51
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cloudflyi believe that when working with nova-manage you are creating networks... WITHIN the fixed range16:52
cloudflyagain may have changed.,16:52
cloudflydoubt it though16:52
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StreamTomI'm trying to create what I think is a subnet within the one defined by fixed_range in my nova.conf but it always returns this error about "count outside of current IP subnet dboundary"16:54
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robixanyone have luck with s3cmd and swift?  I can't get to create buckets - keeps saying invalidURI.16:54
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jkyleannegentle: any technical reason to go with mysql over postgres?16:55
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StreamTomI'm so close here I can tell16:56
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StreamTomMaybe it'll all make more sense in the morning, thanks for all your help17:01
annegentlejkyle: nope, none that I know of. PostgreSQL is here: http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/setting-up-sql-database-postgresql.html17:01
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monstis there good documentation for NFS mounts with openstack?17:24
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andrewbogottmonst:  At the moment there's no automatic system for supporting file-based volumes in openstack.  It's simple enough to do using external tools...17:25
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andrewbogottI'm working on adding integrated support but it won't be available for a while yet.17:26
monstI am doing 2 single nodes stackops installs17:26
monstfor a performance lab17:26
xmltokis two nics a requirement for compute nodes? or is it possible to set the same interface for flat/vlan and public?17:27
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tong@notmyname, John,17:53
tongany update on CDMI stuff?17:53
zykes-_what can be wrong when I can ping the external ip on the networking node but not the outside ?17:53
notmynametong: hi, were you able to get the code resubmitted?17:53
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tongdo not really know how though.17:54
notmynamemtaylor: jeblair: can you help tong out to get his expired patch resubmitted?17:54
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notmynametong: and, FWIW, the openstack PPB is going to have an informal discussion about 3rd party APIs in #openstack-meeting in 2 hours17:56
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tongjohn, 2100 UTC meeting, is that the same one?17:57
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notmynametong: no, at 2000 UTC17:58
tongok. thanks John.17:58
notmynametong: the 2100 meeting is the general openstack community meeting17:58
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tong@notmyname, John, Thanks. Can I participate in the PPB meeting?17:59
notmynametong: anyone is free to attend. the meetings are held in public intentionally.18:00
tonggreat. thanks a lot.18:00
tong@notmyname, John, a point or a link to the meeting ?18:01
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notmynametong: http://wiki.openstack.org/Governance/PPB  <-- today's "meeting" is not official since it was called late. the email doesn't look to be archived yet, but it will be here https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack-poc/18:03
tongthanks again.18:04
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zykes-_what can be wrong when I can ping the external ip on the networking node but not the outside ?18:09
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bwong_Escusee, Where can I find a complete instruction of Openstack for RHeL/CentOS? (Essex)18:38
zykes-_bwong_: I don't think there's a totally complete one but a good start is http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Getting_started_with_OpenStack_EPEL18:39
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bwong_These instructions work for CentOS 6.2?18:41
zykes-_yes bwong_18:43
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bwong_zykes: Thank you for the tip =) Do you know where it stops working since you said its not complete18:43
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zykes-_hehe, not sure bwong_18:46
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bwong_Zykes: are you using openstack on RHeL/CentOS?18:50
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zykes-_bwong_: correct18:51
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bwong_Zykes: Awesome, how is it running?18:58
zykes-_works pretty ok18:59
bwong_zykes: Ok cool, you used these instructions as well?18:59
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tong@mtaylor, how are you doing? can you help with expired code? trying to bring it back.19:00
zykes-_what's CDMI ?19:01
zykes-_bwong_: yeah19:01
jeblairtong: what review are you concerned about?19:01
Dugcdmi review:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/5539/19:01
tong@jeblair, let me get the link to you.19:01
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tongk, Dug just pasted here.19:01
tongplease follow that link.19:01
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jeblairtong: are you logged into gerrit?19:03
tong@zykes, the CDMI stands for  Cloud Data Management Interface. please get more info here. http://www.snia.org/cdmi19:03
jeblairtong: if so, you should see a button labeled "Restore Change"19:03
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jeblairtong: to the right of the button labeled "Review", under the heading "Patch set 5"19:03
tongjeblair, I logged in, and do not see Restore Change.19:04
tongthe only buttons that  Isee are checkout, pull, cherry-pick patch.19:04
tongis it because different permissions?19:05
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jeblairtong: do you not see a button labeled "Review" below checkout,pull,cherry-pick,patch?19:13
jeblairtong: are you litong01?19:13
jeblairtong: if you go to this URL: https://review.openstack.org/#/settings/19:13
tongI am litong0119:13
tongnot seeing that review button neither.19:14
jeblairis Account ID 2860?19:14
zykes-_any nova folks her ethat can help me on my routing / iptables problem ?19:14
tongYes, that is my account ID.19:14
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jeblairtong: that's very strange.  Are there no buttons below "checkout, pull, ..." and above the list of files changed?19:15
jeblairtong: how about "Diff All Side-by-Side"?19:16
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jeblairtong: how about "Diff All Unified"?19:16
Dugfyi I see "Review" and 2 Diffs19:16
jeblairDug: that sounds right19:16
Dugjust no "Restore change"19:16
jeblairtong should see those three buttons plus also "Restore Change" since tong is the owner.19:16
tonghmmmm, strange, now I see the restonre change button.19:16
Dugmagic!  :-)19:16
tongdo not really know what happened.19:17
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tongnow, I see Review, Abandon Change, Diff All Side-by-Side, Diff All unified.19:18
tongseems worked.19:18
tongThanks a lot.19:18
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jeblairtong: great!19:19
tongThanks a lot james.19:19
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jeblairtong: you're welcome!19:20
tong@chmouel, can you review the code? I just brought it back with James help.19:21
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kevin__I have a simple question, that the openstack documentation does really clarify:19:25
kevin__If I disable the nova-compute and nova-network serviecs on a compute host, will the VMs be stopped as well? Or will they continue to run?19:26
saju_mCreate image from openstack instance19:26
saju_mplease check http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1127#p334819:26
saju_mhave any idea?19:26
flaviamissivishy: ping19:27
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uksysadminkoolhead17  koolhead11  < thought you were like superman and clarke kent… but you're both in the same room.19:32
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zykes-_doesn't this look sane when it comes to networking ? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/586696/ I'm unable to ping any externals from my instances and I have forwarding in linux set u19:54
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vishyflaviamissi: pong19:55
zykes-_vishy: time for a question ?19:56
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vishyzykes-_: depend on how hard it is ;)19:57
zykes-_vishy: basically I'm able to ping the external interface from all instances on 2 compute nodes but I can't get passed that19:57
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zykes-_the above paste show iptables -t nat -L -vn19:58
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vishywhat is the external interface?20:03
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vishyzykes-_: nova-manage rules looks suspicious20:04
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zykes-_vishy: external is bond120:05
bwong_How do you private message someone?20:06
vishyzykes-_: you're out of my realm of expertise20:06
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vishyi haven't used the quantum drivers20:06
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vishybwong_:  try /msg <user> message20:06
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zykes-_vishy: I don't think it's related to quantum20:12
vishywell you are non-standard drivers, so there could be a lot going on that I am unaware of20:12
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zykes-_vishy: ;p20:13
zykes-_nicolas2b: here ?20:13
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soukiheiI see rabbitmq-server running on IPv6 port 5672, but not on IPv4. Anyone know how to get it running there?20:21
soukiheiI believe it is running on port 54580 for IPv4, but that changes upon restart/reboot20:21
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zykes-_vishy: -A nova-network-snat -s -j SNAT --to-source
zykes-_can it be some wrong iptables rules ?20:24
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soukiheizykes-, me? I don't have anything special in there. just whatever defaults the install for openstack has created.20:25
zykes-_soukihei: what ?20:25
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soukiheisorry, rabbitmq-server isn't running on an open IPv4 port and it appears to be preventing me to get the :) output from 'nova-manage service list'20:26
soukiheitrying to setup openstack on a single server20:26
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askstackI like to ask a keystone and swift question.  Is this the right channel to ask?20:39
askstackI am trying to follow this guide, http://h30529.www3.hp.com/t5/HP-Scaling-the-Cloud-Blog/The-Road-to-Essex-Part-2-Keystone-and-Swift-with-Keystone/ba-p/41520:42
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askstackI believe I setup keystone correctly, curl -s -H 'X-Auth-Token:7fc47f28bd614f3bb64e1868ff856996' | python -mjson.tool20:43
askstackwould return something meaningfull20:43
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askstackbut swift doesn't work yet.20:44
askstackswift -v -V 2.0 -A -U zone0:swift -K verybadpass stat There is no object-store endpoint on this auth server.20:44
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askstackswift -v -V 2.0 -A -U zone0:swift -K verybadpass stat20:44
askstackThere is no object-store endpoint on this auth server.20:45
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zynzelaskstack: keystone dont know 'object-store' service endpoint20:46
zynzelthis howto describe only swift20:46
dolphmaskstack: did you setup an object store service/endpoint in keystone?20:46
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dolphmaskstack: http://keystone.openstack.org/configuringservices.html#defining-services20:46
zynzelaskstack: i dont know yours version of keystone, but check command like keystone-manage list_services && keystone-manage list_endpoint_templates20:46
zynzelor use 'keystone' command insted :)20:47
dolphmaskstack: keystone-manage for diablo, or keystone for essex20:47
dolphmaskstack: docs i linked only apply to essex20:47
zynzeldolphm: keystone-manage also for e3 ;)20:48
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zynzelok, time to sleep, askstack good luck.20:48
askstackdolphm and zynzel I installed essex. I didn't  setup a endpoint . "keystone server-list" would return "nova, glance, keystone,horizon, ec2, nova-volume, swift"20:48
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zynzelaskstack: change in service template 'swift' to 'object-store'20:49
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askstackzyzel: thanks. good night.20:49
zynzelor copy item from swift to 'object-store' (in template)20:49
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askstackdolphm: I created a new service with "keystone service-create --name="object-store" --type=object-store --description="Swift Service" "20:55
askstack"no object-store endpoint on this auth server."20:56
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dolphmaskstack: you also have to map an endpoint from the service to your tenant (keystone help endpoint-create)21:00
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askstackdolphm: keystone endpoint-list show something like " id | RegionOne | http://localhost:$(compute_port)s/v1.1/$(tenant_id)s | http://localhost:$(compute_port)s/v1.1/$(tenant_id)s |http://localhost:$(compute_port)s/v1.1/$(tenant_id)s  "21:07
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RichardRaseleyGood afternoon. I am looking to install a test Swift cluster (just two nodes). I am intending to follow the guide located on OpenStack.org (http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/ch_installing-openstack-overview.html) and because I am not going to be using Nova, Glance, etc I am wondering if there are any non-obivous dependencies between the services that I should be aware of.21:10
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askstackdolphm: I don't know how I can use this "keystone endpoint-create" command  yet, but i will spend bit more time on it.21:11
RichardRaseleyFor example, it is my understanding that Keystone isn't a dependency of Swift, but that isn't called out specifically. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.21:11
notmynameRichardRaseley: the only real dependency (and based solely on your needs) is what auth server you use. if you choose to use keystone, then you of course will have that dependency. but you can use other auth systems too21:11
notmynameRichardRaseley: for example, tempauth included in swift, swauth (http://github.com/gholt/swauth), or cs_auth (for cloudstack integration)21:12
RichardRaseleyThank you for that information - perhaps I am thinking about "auth" in the wrong way. When I think of it I imagine an LDAP environment or AD or something like that.21:13
annegentleRichardRaseley: I just added Swift to that guide yesterday, so it's in need of real poking, and your question indicates I should make it clear what is "required" for Swift.21:13
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annegentleRichardRaseley: the OpenStack Identity service can serve as a front end to LDAP or AD. Not sure about tempauth, swauth or cs_auth, but notmyname will know.21:14
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RichardRaseleyannegentle: If you want someone to provide feedback as they walk through the process from a very novice point of view (as it relates to OpenStack) I would be more than willing to help.21:14
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RichardRaseleyannegentle: Ah, that makes sense - so it will take account information held within an existing systme like LDAP and then translate it into terms that OpenStack (Swift, etc.) can use?21:15
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RichardRaseleySo, what if I want OpenStack to exist in a vaccum such that it does not interact with any other existing account infrastructure? Does Keystone then hold local accounts?21:16
annegentleRichardRaseley: you are welcome to submit doc bugs, even if just suggestions, at http://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals21:17
annegentleRichardRaseley: right on both counts (translation and holding local if desired)21:18
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RichardRaseleyannegentle: OK, I will try to do that as I walk through the existing documentation.21:18
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RichardRaseleyannegentle: Just so I understand the proper way to submit a suggestion - would it be considered a "bug". For example, I think it would be helpful to a novice if the Swift documentation had a section talking about some guidelines for partitioning drives on a Storage Node, but I don't see that.21:22
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annegentleRichardRaseley: ah, good question… and I don't think that guidance exists yet. So sure, log a doc bug.21:23
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annegentleRichardRaseley: it's a pretty common misconception about partitions though since swift uses the term unlike others21:23
notmynameRichardRaseley: for a quick answer to that question right now, generally you should keep one filesystem partition on each drive (ie, format the whole disk)21:24
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annegentleRichardRaseley: "partitions" in swift parlance are partitions for the ring to track21:24
RichardRaseleyannegentle: I was actually at the OpenStack Conference last week and went through the swift setup with the people @ Swift Stack, but it was quite guided so now I am trying to figure out all these things on my own.21:25
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annegentleRichardRaseley: ok, good21:25
RichardRaseleySo, say I have a server that has 10 JBODs - I would want to format each of them with a single partition (9 partitions + 1 for OS, 1 swap, etc on one of the disks).21:26
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RichardRaseleyThen I can take those devices and mount them in a place on the file system that Swift is aware of?21:26
RichardRaseleyannegentle: And just to clarify - as I only have two servers to work with right now it isn't a problem for Keyston and Swift and Swift Proxy to co-exist on same OS instance?21:27
annegentleRichardRaseley: totally fine21:28
RichardRaseleyannegentle: Thank you for that information.21:28
notmynameRichardRaseley: if you have 10 disks total, use one for the OS and format 9 for data drives. then you will tell swift about those 921:28
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RichardRaseley+notmyname: Thank you.21:29
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RichardRaseleySo, in a two node cluster it would be just fine for me to do the following: Node1 = Keystone Services, Swift Proxy Node, Swift Storage Node and Node2 = Swift Storage Node?21:31
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notmynameRichardRaseley: if you have a load balancer, then you could run the proxy on both boxes. but your way will work too21:32
notmynameRichardRaseley: an older post, but this may give you some ideas http://joearnold.com/2011/06/27/swift-in-the-small/21:33
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RichardRaseley+notmyname: Thanks for that post, I will give it a read. So, that brings up another question. Obviously the point of distributing the proxy service across multiple instances is to provide resiliancy. Are you saying I can only do that if I use a load balancer with a VIP or something like that? Or can I just do round-robin on DNS? I will eventually need to figure out the best way to do this in production (which would have seve21:36
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notmynameRichardRaseley: you do either, depending on your needs and budget21:36
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RichardRaseleyAnd I realize I will probably need to bring in some outside expertise or make a hire with specialized knowledge (as I build up mine) but I want to carry it as far as my legs will take me. =]21:38
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askstackI have been told to map an endpoint from the service to your tenant (keystone help endpoint-create) .21:40
notmynameRichardRaseley: ya you could certainly talk to either Rackspace Cloud Builders or Swiftstack (disclosure: I work for Rackspace, but not for Rackspace Cloud Builders)21:40
askstackI am having a hard time to figure out what is the correct --publicurl --privaterul --internalurl21:40
notmynameRichardRaseley: I'll bet you can get pretty far on your own, though21:40
RichardRaseley+notmyname: Thanks for your confidence. =] I was looking at them but also Canonical and Hastexo!21:41
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askstackoh I am using essex21:42
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RichardRaseley+notmyname: There is no problem with installing swift on a system with a single partition so that the swift object data would live on the same partition as the OS and other data?21:44
vitihois nova-network multi_host implemented in essex release21:46
notmynameRichardRaseley: "work" and "work well" are different. you should have no problems with what you described (ie, it should "work")21:47
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RichardRaseley+notmyname: OK - I understand. This will be just a low workload test server.21:48
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RichardRaseleySo, I notice that the documentation says that you should format your devices that are going to be used for objects storage with the XFS file system however on this two node cluster each node only has one disk so the space I use for object storage will be co-located with the OS on the same partition (ext4). Is this a problem or just "non-optimal" but OK for testing, PoC?21:58
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monstI am getting this error http://paste.openstack.org/show/13694/ when trying to install single node stackops. Anyone seen this before?22:24
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robixAny rule of thumb for setting 'workers' for swift?22:25
monstraw looks better http://paste.openstack.org/raw/13694/22:25
monstcan anyone tell me what the latest stable release of stackops is?22:28
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notmynamerobix: one per core22:31
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RichardRaseleySo, am I correct in understanding that to add an additional storage node to a Swift infrastructure I need to just add it to each of the proxy servers via the swift-ring-builder account.builder add z$Zone-$IP:$Port/$Path 100 (I assume that is weight of the container)?23:12
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RichardRaseleyaccount.builder, container.builder, object.builder for above command and then very and then rebalance?23:13
RichardRaseleyIs this a manual (scripted) process to add a storage node to the swift proxy servers or is there some built in method to keep the files in sync.23:14
RamJettWhere is a good place to read up on nova and network options? I just can't quite get a handle on it. I know how I want my network and VM setup but do not know how to do it.23:14
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RamJettHmmmm, maybe I should ask more direct questions ? How to I setup the VMs (KVM) to launch either with 1 interface or 2 interfaces? What controls that?23:35
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monstgot a question about templates23:45
monsti can ssh to ubuntu just fine using the user ubuntu23:45
monstusing my keypair23:45
monstbut centos and debian prompt for password23:45
monston user root23:45
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monstwhat user is the keypair injected into?23:46
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monstany ideas?23:47
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