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| nvez | Is there such thing as Superadmin in keystone (ex: superadmin Nova account) | 00:50 |
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| nvez | zykes- / CristianDM: ran into this while just looking for something: http://glance.openstack.org/configuring.html#configuring-the-rbd-storage-backend | 01:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #989516 in openstack-manuals "Inconsistent service description for Object Storage service" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989516 | 01:55 |
| creiht | davidha: Re: apache etc, the first question that comes to my mind is what problem are you trying to solve? | 01:58 |
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| creiht | perhaps once we have that identified, then we can have more fruitful discussions on these topics? | 01:59 |
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| nvez | creiht: I don't have an objection against eventlet but some people might feel more comfortable operating Apache as the HTTP frontend | 02:25 |
| nvez | also, i would argue to some people feel that swift should take care of the object storage and let the user choose the http server to serve the content, in this case, apache or anything that can deal with wsgi | 02:27 |
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| nvez | i do see a point that apache is really good at being an http server, so let it serve http and have swift be really good at operating an object storage system | 02:27 |
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| creiht | nvez: There is nothing that prevents people from putting apache in front of swift in a reverse proxy setup, what I'm trying to get at is what that really buys them (other than familiarity) | 02:30 |
| creiht | If there is a gap, then there is a problem for us to solve :) | 02:31 |
| creiht | even if you put something in front of swift, you still have to maintain a whole swift stack, which doesn't make it any easier | 02:31 |
| nvez | creiht: I made that exact suggestion which I agree with you, should help cover those odd requirements people have and it should be enough | 02:31 |
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| nvez | but I wonder if there is a way of having Apache serve files to lower the usage of swift itself | 02:32 |
| creiht | lower which usage? | 02:32 |
| nvez | aka, auth/get file and then once it's there, have apache serve it and it'll free up resources for swift, but again, i'm not that heavy of a user to require that | 02:32 |
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| creiht | being able to get a file requires a certain amount of smarts to know where those objects are | 02:33 |
| creiht | a majority of the smarts are in the proxy servers | 02:33 |
| nvez | ah, see, i dont know that much about the swift infrastructure so in that case it can't be a straightforward implementation | 02:34 |
| creiht | it turns out that actual server http is one of the smallest problems of swift right now :) | 02:34 |
| creiht | serving http | 02:34 |
| nvez | anyhow, i think that until someone hits a scalability issue with it (because any apache requirement can be fixed by reverse proxying), it probably won't be an issue | 02:34 |
| creiht | in our production environment the number of nodes serving http a orders of magnitude fewer than the number of storage nodes | 02:35 |
| creiht | if people are interested in helping solve real scalability issues with swift, there are plenty of hard problems to solve | 02:36 |
| creiht | like better object/container replication | 02:36 |
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| nvez | agreed | 02:36 |
| creiht | container sharding, or better handling of super large containers (other than throwing better hardware at it) | 02:36 |
| creiht | dc to dc replication | 02:36 |
| creiht | things like that :) | 02:36 |
| creiht | http serving throughput is very low on my list :) | 02:37 |
| creiht | that reminds me, that I need to write a couple of blog posts | 02:37 |
| nvez | i see. you work mostly with swift? | 02:37 |
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| creiht | I helped write it :) | 02:37 |
| creiht | I haven't been able to work on it as much lately as I have been working on another project | 02:38 |
| creiht | but I still keep close tabs on it, and try to help where I can | 02:38 |
| nvez | that's awesome, haha I hope you bring your distribution knowledge for distributed block storage for nova | 02:38 |
| nvez | :p | 02:38 |
| creiht | hah | 02:38 |
| creiht | I'm actually working on block storage :) | 02:39 |
| creiht | but not distributed | 02:39 |
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| nvez | aww | 02:39 |
| creiht | that's a tougher nut to crack | 02:39 |
| creiht | :) | 02:39 |
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| nvez | ceph+rbd sounds really "meh"… according to readings sheepdog doesnt offer that good performance | 02:39 |
| nvez | if only someone just did that, would be so awesome, makes everything perfect! heh | 02:40 |
| creiht | hah | 02:40 |
| creiht | In our limited testing, we couldn't get ceph to perform very well | 02:40 |
| creiht | but some people swear by it | 02:40 |
| nvez | i havent done much reading but there doesnt seem to be a lot of documentation / users | 02:41 |
| creiht | At the ceph meetup with piston, I remember someone saying that they got an order of magnitude lesser performance with ceph than raw disk | 02:41 |
| nvez | that's not good :( | 02:42 |
| creiht | but I don't want to disparage ceph | 02:42 |
| creiht | you should try it and form your own opinions :) | 02:42 |
| nvez | something designed for nova where it replicates it n times on servers and openstack should try to boot on servers that host it locally only | 02:43 |
| nvez | the only problem I would think is just writes being as slow as the connection between the servers | 02:43 |
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| creiht | One of the bigger problems with distributed block storage in my mind is consistency. It really requires strict consistency, which in turn adds a lot of constraints (and usually perf degradation) | 02:45 |
| nvez | but i mean like, we have raid (and even software raid) over local drives, if only just have that over network + locking mechanisms | 02:47 |
| creiht | if only :) | 02:47 |
| nvez | heh | 02:47 |
| nvez | im working a lot with nova and the only thing now is just finding the proper docs, there is a lot but some of stuff arent documented | 02:48 |
| creiht | We may try to tackle the distributed block storage at some point, but for now I'm taking a more pragmatic, simple approach, and seeing how far that gets you | 02:49 |
| nvez | ex: keystone + adding a new user to a tenant, i know it's possible because the dashboard does it, but no docs, so gotta reference the libs and my python stinks, heh | 02:50 |
| creiht | yay open source :) | 02:50 |
| nvez | and that's awesome, it would be great to see that, it would be an awesome feature | 02:50 |
| nvez | what surprises me (and might be scary) that not even paid products offer distributed block storage | 02:50 |
| creiht | at least the docs are always getting better | 02:50 |
| creiht | hehe | 02:51 |
| creiht | unfortunately I can't help with keystone, but ask the right question to the right people and you will find what you need | 02:53 |
| creiht | you migh also look at how the devstack sets up keystone | 02:53 |
| creiht | that might provide some insight | 02:53 |
| creiht | good luck! :) | 02:53 |
| nvez | creiht: i do use devstack and i've actually had good luck just reading the code :p | 02:56 |
| nvez | i think i found the isue what my problem was and its all good now | 02:56 |
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| nvez | though it would be cool if this chanel was a bit more active, i've been running to some really silly issues | 02:57 |
| nvez | cant delete tenant cause user assigned to it, cant delete user cause tenant assigned to it, and user not being unassigned from tenant.. really silly lol | 02:57 |
| creiht | nvez: you might also follow #openstack-dev | 02:57 |
| creiht | there are usually more crunchy questions in there | 02:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #994957 in openstack-common "handle all mailmap with name and email address" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994957 | 03:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995727 in openstack-manuals "openstack-api-site in openstack-manuals fails to build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995727 | 03:26 |
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| saju | could you please share a doc whic describimh networking in openstack essex. | 05:32 |
| saju | could you please share a doc which describe network configuration (All mode) in openstack essex. ? | 05:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #994652 in quantum "nova-scheduler crashes with the cisco Quantum scheduler" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994652 | 06:46 |
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| Darksecond | if i use vlan networking in nova, i only need 1 nic in the machine that runs nova-network, right? | 07:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995818 in nova "Prettytable updated with new api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995818 | 08:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995826 in glance "Prettytable updated api" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995826 | 08:25 |
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| kokyu | the nova-scheduler (/network/cert) only need to run on the controller node, in a basic multi-node setup, isn't it? | 08:55 |
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| _et | hi all... | 09:40 |
| _et | wondering if anyone else is having issues with mysql.. | 09:40 |
| _et | acting all crazy.. it won't let users access db even after setting up appropriate privileges. | 09:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #989746 in nova "'FlatManager' object has no attribute 'allocate_floating_ip'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/989746 | 10:30 |
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| Darksecond | if i use vlan networking in nova, i only need 1 nic in the machine that runs nova-network, right? | 10:32 |
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| rmt | Darksecond, correct. VLAN tagging just sticks a couple more bytes in the ethernet frame, and it all goes out via the same card. | 10:34 |
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| Darksecond | rmt: very nice, since my testing system only has one network card, and i want to tinker with openstack and the vlan networking mode :) | 10:35 |
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| Darksecond | i'm also looking into openflow and openvswitch, but currently all it's doing for me is giving me a headache :D | 10:37 |
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| Darksecond | or would it be better to use flatdhcp? | 10:44 |
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| Darksecond | aaah, i think i understand, flatDHCP isn't less secure than vlan, it uses security groups and iptables to make it just as secure | 10:48 |
| Darksecond | now i get it | 10:48 |
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| _val_ | Oh tell me something new. | 11:16 |
| _val_ | A lot of bugs. | 11:16 |
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| junaid | I have configured keystone on my machine and it is up and running. but when I run 'keystone --token ADMIN --endpoint http://localhost:35357/v2.0 tenant-list' I get an error | 12:59 |
| junaid | OperationalError: (OperationalError) no such table: tenant u'SELECT tenant.id AS tenant_id, tenant.name AS tenant_name, tenant.extra AS tenant_extra \nFROM tenant' () | 12:59 |
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| junaid | can any one guide me in fixing this problem? | 13:00 |
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| sstent | Anyone know why i would see "The action you have requested has not been implemented. (HTTP 501)" when i do anything relating to endpoints in keystone? e.g. endpoint-list or endpoint-create | 13:32 |
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| kokyu | I added 2 networks (via nova-manage) and associated them with 3 different projects. | 13:34 |
| nvez | Are you using a static backend for the catalog, sstent ? | 13:35 |
| kokyu | then I started a new instance in project (A), but now I see that it got assigned all three IPs (in the dashbaord) but I cannot log in via either IP | 13:35 |
| sstent | nvez: yeah mysql | 13:36 |
| nvez | Could you double check the keystone.conf file to make sure it is using sql? | 13:37 |
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| gstaicu | juanid after you have installed keystone did you make keystone-manage db_sync? | 13:39 |
| junaid | gstaicu: yes | 13:40 |
| sstent | nvez: yup using mysql -- connection = mysql://user:pass@127.0.0.1/keystone | 13:40 |
| sstent | nvez: i can create services etc, jsut not endpoints | 13:40 |
| nvez | ah, I don't know in that case.. I just recently started tinkering around with Keystone and it's errors are pretty cryptic sometimes :p | 13:41 |
| gstaicu | but using mysql | 13:41 |
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| gstaicu | can you check your database keystone? | 13:42 |
| junaid | gstaicu: I see in the code that it calls create_engine(CONF.sql.connenction, ...), which in our case is sqlite://keystone.db | 13:42 |
| junaid | gstaicu: how do I connect to this database? | 13:42 |
| nvez | sqlite3 keystone.db in shell | 13:43 |
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| junaid | nvez: sqlite keystone.db and then sqlite> .table returns zero output | 13:46 |
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| nvez | junaid: looks like your db is empty, follow what gstaicu mentioned and run the db_sync, it should build your db (i think) | 13:46 |
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| Razique | hi guys i'm validating Essex install | 14:01 |
| Razique | when I want to list images via glance index, i've the message "Response from Keystone does not contain a Glance endpoint." | 14:01 |
| Razique | I've enabled templated catalogs in keystone | 14:01 |
| Razique | and the file contains the glance endpoints | 14:02 |
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| Razique | (ubuntu 12 via repo btw) | 14:02 |
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| livemoon | can anyone help it? | 14:03 |
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| nvez | Razique: it does sound like according to keystone, it cant find the glance endpoint… try running an strace and looking at recvfrom calls and see the JSON that keystone sends (specifically the one with "access" response that includes the token) | 14:04 |
| Razique | thanks nvez I'll try | 14:05 |
| livemoon | Razique: what is btw? | 14:06 |
| Razique | strace is a tool that monitor system calls | 14:06 |
| kbringard | btw == by the way | 14:06 |
| nvez | Razique: you can run this -- strace -s 4096 <glance call> | 14:07 |
| livemoon | kbringard: thanks | 14:07 |
| nvez | look for recvfrom with some json in it | 14:07 |
| Razique | nvez : is it that output http://paste.openstack.org/show/15949/ | 14:10 |
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| junaid | nvez: when I run keystone-manage db_sync, this command creates a database in the current directory.. But in keystone.conf the connection option has sqlite:///keystone.db... So my question is what path does this sqlite:///keystone.db resolve to? | 14:12 |
| nvez | Razique: looks like you're getting an empty service catalog | 14:12 |
| nvez | are you providing a tenant id? | 14:12 |
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| kbringard | junaid: usually the pwd you're in when you run the command | 14:12 |
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| kbringard | I'd recommend changing that to a static path so it always gets created in the same place | 14:12 |
| kbringard | or, ideally, switch it to use a mysql DB | 14:13 |
| Razique | nvez : I provide an tenant name | 14:13 |
| Razique | via OS_TENANT_NAME | 14:13 |
| nvez | Razique: can you scroll up a bit in the strace and see if that is being sent in the token request/ | 14:13 |
| junaid | abringard: how to switch to mysql DB? | 14:13 |
| Razique | nvez oh wait | 14:14 |
| Razique | it worked | 14:14 |
| nvez | what was it? | 14:14 |
| Razique | I had to update my sourceable file | 14:14 |
| nvez | aha, awesome | 14:14 |
| Razique | the tenant name was incorrect | 14:14 |
| Razique | sorry :s | 14:14 |
| Razique | catalog empty but works now | 14:14 |
| nvez | np! now you know how to debug those keystone issues | 14:14 |
| livemoon | that's the problem? | 14:14 |
| livemoon | nvez: using strace? | 14:15 |
| kbringard | junaid: in the keystone.conf, change the sql_connection = line to read mysql://user:pass@host/db_name | 14:15 |
| nvez | yep that's usually the way i do it.. | 14:15 |
| kbringard | then, of course, you'll need a mysql DB setup | 14:15 |
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| kbringard | and you'll need to have the DB created (and empty) | 14:15 |
| Razique | perfect thanks a ton nvez | 14:15 |
| kbringard | and users created to have access to it | 14:15 |
| Razique | hey kbringard | 14:15 |
| Razique | mi friend | 14:15 |
| nvez | np | 14:15 |
| livemoon | Razique: since of incorrect tenant_name? | 14:15 |
| kbringard | 'sup Razique | 14:16 |
| Razique | livemoon yup | 14:16 |
| Razique | into my sourceable file | 14:16 |
| Razique | the OS_TENAME_NAME was the user | 14:16 |
| Razique | not the tenant | 14:16 |
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| Razique | I hate those demo datas | 14:16 |
| livemoon | :) | 14:16 |
| Razique | the generic names are too...generic :D | 14:16 |
| Razique | kbringard : fine, back on openstack after a kit of kvm/ libvirt :D | 14:17 |
| tong | @notmyname, john, u there? | 14:17 |
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| Razique | i'm working on diablo -> essex migration | 14:17 |
| kbringard | ah, I will be interested in what you come up with there | 14:17 |
| livemoon | Razique: go on your work ,good luck | 14:17 |
| kbringard | it's on my list of things to do, but I'm stuck in firefighting hell at the moment | 14:17 |
| notmyname | tong: yay! | 14:18 |
| Razique | kbringard : first impression : that will be funny, much changes meanwhile | 14:18 |
| notmyname | tong: we must chat :-) | 14:18 |
| livemoon | nvez: what is "glance call" in"strace -s 4096 <glance call>" | 14:18 |
| zykes- | notmyname: will swift stuff be packaged into different packages now or ? | 14:18 |
| zykes- | i mean like rate limit etc | 14:18 |
| notmyname | zykes-: some of it. we're going through that process now. similar to what happened with slogging and swauth | 14:19 |
| notmyname | tong: pm | 14:19 |
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| tong | @notmyname, john, just want to see if there is any new development on the 3rd party API? | 14:20 |
| notmyname | tong: yes, I sent you a pm | 14:21 |
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| tong | @notmyname, sorry John, what is pm? | 14:22 |
| notmyname | tong: sorry. private message (ie /msg) | 14:22 |
| kokyu | what does the status-column mean at the output of `nova-manage service list`? it shows enabled/disabled. but how is that actually being evaluated ? | 14:22 |
| notmyname | tong: should have opened a new channel or window for you | 14:22 |
| tong | oh. email? | 14:22 |
| notmyname | tong: no, in IRC | 14:22 |
| notmyname | tong: for example, type "/msg notmyname hi" | 14:23 |
| * Razique thought flags were no longer used in Essex, why nova.conf contains flag notations :D | 14:26 | |
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| nvez | livemoon: sorry late reply but what i meant simply the glance command you were executing after | 14:28 |
| livemoon | nvez: I see, thanks | 14:29 |
| junaid | abringard: keystone --token ADMIN --endpoint http://localhost:35357/v2.0 tenant-list gives output as printt, what does this mean? | 14:29 |
| nvez | junaid: I ran into this bug yesterday. | 14:29 |
| nvez | Using Ubuntu? | 14:29 |
| nvez | pip uninstall prettytable; apt-get install python-prettytable | 14:30 |
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| junaid | rhel6.2 | 14:30 |
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| nvez | junaid: yum search python-prettytable -- do you find anything there? | 14:31 |
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| junaid | nvez: yeah, python-prettytable.noarch | 14:32 |
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| nvez | is it version 0.5? | 14:32 |
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| junaid | 0.5-2 | 14:33 |
| nvez | Ok, so do pip uninstall prettytable and install that one | 14:33 |
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| junaid | okay.. and then yum install python-prettytable.noarch? | 14:34 |
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| nvez | yep | 14:34 |
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| junaid | nvez: yeah that solved the problem :) | 14:35 |
| sstent | can someone confirm that if i have SERVICE_ENDPOINT and | 14:35 |
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| sstent | OS_TOKEN defined, that the follwing endpoint creation command is correct " keystone endpoint-create --region RegionOne --service_id=ca301908f664445792255fd5ef07327c --publicurl=http://10.5.96.35:5000/v2.0 --internalurl=http://10.5.115.33:5000/v2.0 --adminurl=http://10.5.115.33:35357/v2.0" | 14:35 |
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| junaid | nvez: logging off now, I will try adding new tenants tomo... thanks for the help | 14:38 |
| nvez | np, gluck | 14:38 |
| nvez | sstent: shouldn't it generate a servcie id for you..? | 14:39 |
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| nvez | er no, nevermind, have you tried looking at the source? | 14:39 |
| nvez | sstent: try runnign a strace on that keystone command and see what the json that is being sent and received.. | 14:40 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995219 in keystone "swift proxy ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'true' (dup-of: 988523)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995219 | 14:41 |
| sstent | looks like "{\"endpoint\": {\"adminurl\": \"http://10.5.115.33:35357/v2.0\", \"service_id\": \"ca301908f664445792255fd5ef07327c\", \"region\": \"RegionOne\", \"internalurl\": \"http://10.5.115.33:5000/v2.0\", \"publicurl\": \"http://10.5.96.35:5000/v2.0\"}" | 14:43 |
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| nvez | looks alright, and the response? | 14:43 |
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| sstent | "{\"error\": {\"message\": \"The action you have requested has not been implemented.\", \"code\": 501, \"title\": null}}" | 14:44 |
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| nvez | do you see what URL it's POSTing too? | 14:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #991913 in horizon "Deleting a tenant where a user is a member leaves the user with a tenant link that's not existant." [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/991913 | 14:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #994154 in quantum "Quantum / Nova not killing DHCP properly on instance termination" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994154 | 14:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #995976 in keystone "PrettyTable 0.6 breaks Keystone CLI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995976 | 14:46 |
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| sstent | POST /v2.0//endpoints HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: 10.5.115.33:35357\r\nAccept-Encoding: identity\r\nContent-Length: 223\r\nx-auth-token: <token>\r\ncontent-type: application/json\r\nuser-agent: python-keystoneclient\r\n\r\n" | 14:47 |
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| nvez | that's really odd, i really don't see why | 14:47 |
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| sstent | me either | 14:47 |
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| sstent | even tried going back to an sqlite db - but no luck | 14:48 |
| nvez | can you show your keystone.conf ? | 14:48 |
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| nvez | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/keystone/catalog/backends/sql.py#L114 -- if you're using the right driver .. it should work | 14:48 |
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| nvez | really, the only thing I suspect is that you're using the TemplatedCatalog. | 14:49 |
| Ruetobas | hi, has anyone tried libvirt + xen deployment ? | 14:50 |
| sstent | http://pastebin.com/Wv2aEYpw | 14:51 |
| critch | odd bit of a problem, Looking at the raw mysql db to check out some stuff. I see in the show tables output I have a projects table, but when you select on it, mysl says projects doesn't exist. | 14:51 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #993244 in quantum "QuantumManager not creating gw-%s interfaces upon instance creation" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993244 | 14:51 |
| critch | Part of the interesting bit is that the dns_domains table has a foreign key pointing at the projects table. | 14:52 |
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| critch | for anyone wanting to know, my install is based on the ubuntu 12.04 install. | 14:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995078 in devstack "./stack.sh: line 715: cd: /opt/stack/nova: No such file or directory " [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995078 | 14:56 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #995205 in devstack "devstack stack.sh error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995205 | 14:56 |
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| judu | Hello | 15:12 |
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| judu | I'm using openstack with libvirt, and I need the guest to know its own uuid. How do I do that? | 15:13 |
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| kokyu | hey, I have a `nova-manage service list` output like this: http://pastie.org/private/5dybafky5qv9g4sf1hfqqa and I'd like to get rid completeley of the "colossus11" entries, but how? | 15:15 |
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| kokyu | I also wonder how even they got in there :) | 15:15 |
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| judu | (Also, does someone know When in the nova boot we get the instance uuid?) | 15:18 |
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| kokyu | judu: maybe you can hack something together via the cloud-init package, that places an init script into /etc/init (/etc/init.d) to inject pubkeys at least. | 15:19 |
| kokyu | judu: and if you've found the solution, tell me, because I want the same, but for the hypervisor hostname :) | 15:20 |
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| judu | kokyu: the init script is placed in the instance /etc/init.d or the hypervisor's one? | 15:21 |
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| judu | kokyu: There might be a solution for your problem. Look into the _inject_data function. It adds things like server ssh key when creating the instance. | 15:22 |
| kokyu | of the instance's one of course (: | 15:23 |
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| judu | So the hypervisor hostname is easy to get and put there. | 15:23 |
| kokyu | function? judu, I'm (currently) by far not a python guy. maybe this'll change once I got my cloud production ready and can think more forward then :) | 15:23 |
| judu | My problem is to get the (libvirt generated?) uuid. | 15:23 |
| judu | AFAIK, I will need to patch the python that creates the instance >_< | 15:24 |
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| judu | And I'm not a python guy either… | 15:25 |
| kokyu | well, once you've the IP address, you could do a little hack like this: nova list | grep 10.10.40.2 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs nova show | grep ':instance_name' | awk '{print $4}' | 15:25 |
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| kokyu | works for me at least :) | 15:25 |
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| sstent | nvez: any ideas on my config? | 15:26 |
| kokyu | replace the IP with the one you get from within your instance. this trick requires the guest to have nova client installed and env vars being set | 15:26 |
| nvez | ahhhh Stackops-Jorge | 15:27 |
| nvez | oops! | 15:27 |
| nvez | sstent | 15:27 |
| nvez | driver = keystone.catalog.backends.templated.TemplatedCatalog | 15:27 |
| nvez | you need to switch to the sql onw | 15:27 |
| nvez | https://github.com/openstack/keystone/blob/master/etc/keystone.conf.sample#L36 | 15:28 |
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| sstent | nvez: WOOT! works now - thanks | 15:30 |
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| sstent | one final question for keystone - publicurl, is it necessary to expose this to the public network or can i jsut expose it to a secured network for our cluster admins? | 15:31 |
| nvez | dont know about that technicality! | 15:33 |
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| sstent | hmm ok. yeah mainly wiondering if endusers need access to keystone | 15:34 |
| sstent | or if it's just admins/other nodes | 15:34 |
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| sstent | another keystone question. with endpoints do you create an entry for each node of that type? or should we create loadbalancer for each class? | 16:02 |
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| heyho | hello.. quick question: is nova-api service mandatory in every compute-host if I use multi-host networking mode? Or can I just use nova-api-metadata? | 16:03 |
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| sstent | heyho: you should be able to jsut use metadata | 16:03 |
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| zykes- | heyho: nova-api > your front end node towards users, nova-api-metata should run on each compute node i think even if not in multihost mode no ? | 16:04 |
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| heyho | sstent zykes.. I thought i read somwhere that nova-api also manage the assignement of the local private gateways ip on the physical compute nodes.. So these operations are done only by the nova-api on the controller? | 16:06 |
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| heyho | I expressed myself bad, sorry.. nova-api should forward every public (internet) vm request outside the private network via the local gateways.. or these operations are performed by local nova-network services? | 16:11 |
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| sstent | heyho: this should be nova-networks job | 16:12 |
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| sstent | heyho: api should recieved service requests from users, pass them onto the scheduler, which farms them out to the approriate nova-network to create the networks | 16:13 |
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| heyho | so "local" nova-apis make no sense if the requests are always made via the controller node, right? | 16:14 |
| sstent | correct | 16:14 |
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| heyho | ok, thank you very much | 16:14 |
| sstent | meta is jsut there to service the 169.254.169.254 requests | 16:15 |
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| kiranmurari | FYI, OpenStack Beginner's Guide (Essex on Ubuntu 12.04) -> http://wp.me/pT1iY-q9 | 16:32 |
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| RichardRaseley | If I were building some dedicated swift proxy servers, would it be worthwhile to look at enterprise class SSDs? | 16:49 |
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| LarsErikP | in flat networking, when injecting network config into an instance. How do that actually happen? Mounting disk image, and edit /etc/network/interfaces ? | 16:55 |
| kokyu | check the cloud-init package that does its kun-fu on the instance-side :) | 16:55 |
| LarsErikP | thanks | 16:56 |
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| kokyu | nova-volumes service needs to *only* run on the controller node, right ? | 16:57 |
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| kokyu | that means, the "nova-volumes" LVM volume group just needs to exist on that host. | 16:58 |
| kokyu | and remote compute nodes connect to them via iSCSI. or am I mistaken ? | 16:58 |
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| LarsErikP | so, i guess my assumption was right.. So, flatManager and windows instances can't work very well right? :s | 17:05 |
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| kokyu | LarsErikP: did you check what actually cloud-init is doing? in the end it'll be just one kind of dhcp request (and injecting ssh pub keys) | 17:07 |
| kokyu | just look at what happens on a linux instance | 17:07 |
| LarsErikP | maybe i looked in the wrong place.. where did you find that? | 17:08 |
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| kokyu | LarsErikP: I'm in the traing right now, I cannot look :-) | 17:09 |
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| LarsErikP | oki :p | 17:09 |
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| LarsErikP | dhcp request? I was talking about flatmanager without dhcp | 17:10 |
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| anticw | OT; how do i stop emails coming from people who click "Contact this team" ? | 17:17 |
| kokyu | LarsErikP: FlatManager AFAIK is using dnsmasq, wich (in fact) has a dhcp server included. but whether FlatManager make use of it. tell me :) | 17:17 |
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| kokyu | #spam | 17:17 |
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| anticw | i guess i could always delete my LP account; it's one less cancer to worry about | 17:20 |
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| LarsErikP | is there support for Windows7 guests? Or only 2008 Server? | 17:23 |
| anticw | it's a licensing issue | 17:23 |
| anticw | win7 should work | 17:23 |
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| LarsErikP | ok | 17:25 |
| Darksecond | what if 2 nodes don't have the same nic card names? fedora names them by pci slot these days, should i rename them to all be the same? (ethX) | 17:26 |
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| anticw | oh jesus, it's like Hotel California | 17:33 |
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| apergos | are you trying to leave? | 17:40 |
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| anticw | apergos: i can deactivate it, that's probably good enough | 17:42 |
| anticw | though it's not clear how to get mailing list feed then | 17:43 |
| apergos | heh | 17:43 |
| anticw | launchpad is without a doubt one of the most frustrating, obtuse and invasive development tools i've encountered (me and the 89000 others who comaplain about this as well) | 17:44 |
| apergos | oh. yeah I'm not a fan | 17:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #993859 in quantum "quamtum client --debug option needed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/993859 | 17:46 |
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| bpaluch | hey does fedora or centos make openstack images simlar to UEC ubuntu images? I havne't found any useful links everything seems to be people making their own, I don't feel like recreating the wheel. | 18:01 |
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| _val_ | bpaluch: maybe http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/03/03/openstack-nova-centos-instance/ | 18:04 |
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| bpaluch | hmm this is what I've found but thanks i might as well just bite the bullet and start | 18:06 |
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| _val_ | you probably have somewhere preinstalled images | 18:07 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995280 in openstack-ci "replace launchpad translations with transifex" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995280 | 18:21 |
| apetrescu | I feel stupid for asking this, but how do I add user accounts for the OpenStack Dashboard in Ubuntu 12.04? It won't take my normal user credentials. What does it auth against? | 18:23 |
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| mrmartin | re | 18:29 |
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| apetrescu | Hm? | 18:30 |
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| kokyu | nova-volumes service needs to *only* run on the controller node, right ? | 18:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #994471 in quantum "dnsmasq config is not updated upon instance creation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994471 | 18:56 |
| kokyu | and remote compute nodes connect to them via iSCSI. or am I mistaken ? | 18:57 |
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| kiranmurari | kokyu, true... your compute nodes need not have nova-volume installed on them as well.... | 19:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #994296 in glance "Glance can't deploy an image from Swift if the Swift account name contains an '@'" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994296 | 19:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #994609 in glance "wsgi.Server() starts but is broken on osx (test_multiprocessing never ends)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/994609 | 19:01 |
| kokyu | kiranmurari: very nice then :) | 19:02 |
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| kokyu | kiranmurari: but still, compute nodes need plenty of GB for the main OS disk image to be stored locally, or can I make it a iSCSI-target aswell ? | 19:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #992319 in glance "Patch to openstack.common.cfg should be removed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992319 | 19:05 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996120 in devstack "libmysqlclient-dev missing from nova packages" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996120 | 19:05 |
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| kfox1111 | Question. Does openstack support something like EC2's Tag api? | 19:15 |
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| kbringard | with the nova api you can set meta-data for instances at boot time | 19:17 |
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| kbringard | I don't think you can do it with the ec2 API, though | 19:17 |
| kbringard | nova api == openstack API | 19:17 |
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| kbringard | you specify —meta key=value for as many arbitrary values as you'd like | 19:17 |
| kbringard | when you run nova boot | 19:18 |
| kfox1111 | how do you fetch it in the instance? | 19:19 |
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| kfox1111 | hmm.. looks like dashboard doesn't support setting them either. :/ | 19:19 |
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| askstack | I have nova + nova volume + swift . when I launch an instance with 1GB RAM and 10GB disk, where does this 10GB disk gets its disk space from? I don't see empty space decrease in swift nor noav-volume. | 19:22 |
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| kfox1111 | so, is openstack moving away from supporting the ec2 api? | 19:23 |
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| kvad32 | askstack: Im not sure but maybe because if i member nova volume uses LVM so that space is already allocated? | 19:25 |
| kvad32 | askstack: Just a quess | 19:25 |
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| askstack | kvad32: i ran pvdisplay before and after i created this instance, i don't see "Free PE " decrease. | 19:28 |
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| askstack | also, my nova-volume is 20GB. When I launch an instance, dashboard shows "1000GB available" | 19:28 |
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| askstack | Kvad32: thanks, I wll keep looking | 19:29 |
| kvad32 | askstack: kk good luck srry couldnt help | 19:30 |
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| kvad32 | askstack: When you find out please let me know | 19:30 |
| askstack | kvad32: sure will. | 19:30 |
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| VivekVC | annegentle: Hi | 19:32 |
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| kfox1111 | How do you get the tags a guest has set from the guest? | 19:37 |
| sstent | askstack: unless you're booting from volume, the instance data is in /var/lib/nova/instances on the compute node | 19:37 |
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| sstent | askstack: as for dashboard shows "1000GB available" | 19:40 |
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| sstent | askstack: that sounds like the quota for your account | 19:40 |
| askstack | sstent: kvad32: you are right, /var/lib/nova/instances/ has the disk file, I download an ISO in the vm and the "disk" file increased from 6MB to 3.8G | 19:43 |
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| askstack | kvad32: i found this to be helpful, http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=536 | 19:45 |
| askstack | kvad32: The default implementation in OpenStack uses local-to-host storage for the / partition and any additional storage specified in the "flavor" at guest creation. | 19:45 |
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| sstent | askstack: also if your on kvm, i believe you'll see 2 disks in your vm, 1 for the OS + 1 of instance size | 19:46 |
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| askstack | sstent: yes, one named "disk" and one "disk.local" | 19:46 |
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| askstack | sstent: disk.local didn't change size | 19:47 |
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| askstack | sstent: according to the libvirt.xml, "disk" is for vda and "disk.local" is for vdb. | 19:49 |
| sstent | askstack: that's right | 19:49 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996139 in keystone "KVS tokens not shared between processes" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996139 | 19:50 |
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| BLZbubba | how painful would it be to make nova-network limit outbound connections too? | 19:53 |
| kokyu | if nova-volumes is comparable to Amazon's EBS, can I use them as root disks, too? | 19:53 |
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| askstack | kokyu: i have no expericne in it, but i just saw this, http://forums.openstack.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=536, read the second message . | 19:59 |
| kokyu | askstack: hehe, funny name you have. and thanks for the reference :) | 19:59 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995251 in openstack-ci "Run tempest in the devstack gate" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995251 | 20:06 |
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| kokyu | askstack: for some reason, I cannot access this site at all (forums.openstack.org) :( | 20:11 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #996157 in glance "backend storage error not logged properly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996157 | 20:15 |
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| gourneau | Hey Y'all. What is a good modern alternative to Sun Grid Engine? I need a task queue for a cluster of machines. Does open stack have this (I am a noob) | 20:17 |
| kokyu | define "task queue" | 20:17 |
| kokyu | gourneau: some software that enqueues jobs to be performed by worker nodes? (that's how it sounds like) | 20:18 |
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| gourneau | kokyu: yup that is it. | 20:19 |
| kokyu | gourneau: I very hardly doubt that OpenStack provides one, because this is an entirely different subject and layer of problem to solve. | 20:20 |
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| kokyu | gourneau: I do not know what platform you are on, and what your needs are, but maybe (for now) you might want to have a look at Resque ( http://github.com/bvandenbos/resque-scheduler ) | 20:21 |
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| askstack | kokyu: https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg05284.html | 20:22 |
| gourneau | okay, that is what I thought but I was just curious. I will keep looking around. Thanks! | 20:22 |
| kokyu | askstack: thanks | 20:23 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #996163 in quantum "remove unneeded imports in quantum/common/config.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996163 | 20:26 |
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| kokyu | anyone experienced with VLAN within OpenStack? | 20:34 |
| zykes- | kokyu: experienced how ? | 20:34 |
| zykes- | i've used Quantum & VLANManager | 20:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #996171 in openstack-ci "add an openvz enabled builder" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996171 | 20:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996173 in openstack-ci "run devstack tests on kvm and xen in addition to qemu" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996173 | 20:35 |
| kokyu | I would like to let all OpenStack Projects (/ its networks) make use of VLANs, so it won't interfere with the management network (where the openstack resides in, and the switches, IPMIs, etc) | 20:35 |
| kokyu | (pretty buggy day ^^) | 20:36 |
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| kokyu | has anyone ever prepared/tested live migrations via Nova (using KVM/libvirt)? | 20:44 |
| kokyu | reading the docs, i read, that you MUST NFS-mount the /var/lib/nova/instances dir, implying that the actual compute nodes (that mount this dir from remote master) do really not need much disk space then. or am I mistaken ? | 20:45 |
| zynzel | if you need live migration yes | 20:45 |
| zynzel | but you can use kvm block migration. | 20:46 |
| zynzel | it works after 'some' changes in code. (maybe this was fault of my env) | 20:46 |
| kokyu | oh | 20:46 |
| kokyu | never heard of "kvm block migration"s yet :-) | 20:47 |
| avoine | I would be curious to know how it works also | 20:47 |
| kokyu | hehe | 20:48 |
| zykes- | why use KVM ? | 20:48 |
| avoine | I guess this is what your talking about: http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/FAQ#What_setup_is_required_for_QEMU.2FKVM_migration.3F | 20:48 |
| zykes- | use Gluster fs instead shared across nodes ? | 20:49 |
| zynzel | problem with block migration in multi_node env is: 1) vm xml (on every compute node, other vnc listen address) 2) no support for floating ip migration 3) fucked up code for getting image from glance (maybe in essex it works) | 20:49 |
| zykes- | zynzel: i wonder if Kiall was looking at it :p | 20:49 |
| zynzel | dunno, but i was ;) and now its works :) | 20:50 |
| zynzel | 3day of work... | 20:50 |
| zykes- | zynzel: what works ? | 20:51 |
| zynzel | kvm block migration ;) | 20:51 |
| zykes- | ah, you use multi_host or ? | 20:51 |
| zynzel | yeah, multihost and flatdhcp | 20:51 |
| zykes- | hmm, you running trunk or ? | 20:51 |
| zynzel | nope, e3 (before stable essex) | 20:52 |
| kokyu | what else despite flatdhcp does exist? | 20:52 |
| zykes- | hmm, I thought Kiall said it didn't work with migrations and multi_host (Running nova network on all compute nodes) | 20:52 |
| zynzel | kokyu: ? i dont understand | 20:53 |
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| zynzel | zykes-: we have multi_host, so i dont have much choice ;) | 20:54 |
| kokyu | zynzel: nova supports different networking modes, FlatDHCP, and what else? | 20:54 |
| zykes- | zynzel: weird then that he said it didn't work | 20:54 |
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| zynzel | kokyu: flatdhcp, flat, vlan i think | 20:54 |
| kokyu | zynzel: as far as I read in this channel, everybody is using FlatDHCP. but if that's configurable, there must be other choices, too | 20:54 |
| monst | anyone had the issue where vcpu wont go higher then cores? | 20:55 |
| zynzel | zykes-: i have to fix 'a few lines' | 20:55 |
| zykes- | vishy: would multi_host networking work with live migrations ? | 20:55 |
| zykes- | you had to change code zynzel ? | 20:55 |
| monst | once I go past 16vcpu instances stay in build state. | 20:55 |
| monst | i have 16 cores | 20:55 |
| zynzel | zykes-: yeah | 20:56 |
| kokyu | zynzel: oha, and when using vlan, it'll make all IP packets from the instances tagged, right? that's the point I am interested in! - do I need to configure anything special on the switches to support that? | 20:56 |
| zykes- | what did you need to fix then ? | 20:56 |
| kokyu | zynzel: I know I can configure vlan (tagged and untagged) in our switches, but that is for segmenting the ethernet ports only | 20:56 |
| zynzel | zykes-: i dont have access now to git, if you are intrested plz remind me about it tomorrow | 20:57 |
| vishy | zykes-: yes | 20:57 |
| vishy | zykes-: it just doesn't automatically move floating ips | 20:57 |
| zynzel | kokyu: i dont use vlan mode, so i cant help you :) | 20:57 |
| zykes- | vishy: ah, I wonder if it was that that Kiall was working on :p | 20:57 |
| zykes- | zynzel: did you fix floating ? | 20:57 |
| zynzel | zykes-: yes | 20:57 |
| zykes- | and fw rules + gw ? | 20:58 |
| kokyu | zynzel: I'm still on mission to find one though :) | 20:58 |
| zynzel | zykes-: yes, gw i 'auto fixed' after vm request address from dhcp | 20:58 |
| zynzel | (after about ~1mint) | 20:58 |
| zynzel | min* | 20:58 |
| vishy | zykes-: http://wiki.openstack.org/ReleaseNotes/Essex#Known_Issues | 20:58 |
| zynzel | gw is* | 20:58 |
| vishy | 5th paragraph | 20:58 |
| apetrescu | I'm trying to set up a brand new OpenStack on some hardware, but for some reason `keystone-manager db_sync` doesn't seem to do anything (no errors, but nothing happens in the DB). As far as I can tell, I've configured the connection properly in keystone.conf. Anybody have an inkling of what might be happening? | 20:58 |
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| zynzel | zykes-: with fw rules was problem only with dhcp server ip, that was easy ;) | 21:00 |
| kokyu | apetrescu: into what db do you expect to find the schema/data ? mysql? did you set it to use mysql, too? check the sqlite's file then, maybe you're still using sqlite ;) | 21:00 |
| zynzel | floating ip migration is also easy (release, migrate, assign) | 21:00 |
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| zykes- | zynzel: ebtables ? | 21:01 |
| zynzel | bigest problem was with changing kvm configuration on the fly (other ip address for vnc, depends on compute node) | 21:01 |
| apetrescu | kokyu: Sorry, I should've specified, yes, I changed the connection string in /usr/share/keystone/keystone.conf from the default sqlite keystone.db file to a mysql:/// one | 21:01 |
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| apetrescu | Even deleting the old keystone.db file doesn't help | 21:03 |
| apetrescu | Hmmm | 21:03 |
| apetrescu | Actually it recreated it | 21:03 |
| apetrescu | Even though I changed keystone.conf | 21:03 |
| apetrescu | So that's the problem I suppose | 21:03 |
| apetrescu | Is there anything else I have to do besides change the connection string in keystone.conf to make it use MySQL instead of sqlite? | 21:04 |
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| RichardRaseley | Can anyone provide more information on how I would support a multi-site Swift installation using Keystone for authentication? | 21:04 |
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| kokyu | apetrescu: I do not know your environment, but the keystone.conf you are supposed to edit should be in /etc/keystone/ isntead :) | 21:05 |
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| * apetrescu feels really stupid right now | 21:05 | |
| apetrescu | I must've been reading some old doc that specified /usr/share instead of /etc. Thanks :) That's probably it | 21:06 |
| apetrescu | :q | 21:06 |
| monst | anyone have an idea why my compute node would stop building instance once vcpu reached my core count? | 21:07 |
| monst | I assumed you could over allocate and have thread ques like ESX? | 21:07 |
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| monst | a compute node cant be limited to 16 machines if there is 16 cores, right? | 21:08 |
| kbringard | I think the simple scheduler will do a resource check and won't assign a VM to node unless it has N number of cores available | 21:09 |
| kokyu | apetrescu: if you're on Ubuntu (ideally 12.04), then try http://www.hastexo.com/resources/docs/installing-openstack-essex-20121-ubuntu-1204-precise-pangolin as a first start, and don't make the same mistake I did: read carefully! after it, I highly highly recommend to read the official docu at docs.openstack.org, no matter how much it feels like, but it helped me greatly, too (but still, I'm having issues :D) | 21:09 |
| kbringard | but chance scheduler just does a rand() % and dolls them out indiscriminately | 21:09 |
| monst | I am using a single node setup | 21:10 |
| apetrescu | Thanks, kokyu, I'd only been using the official docs so far. | 21:10 |
| monst | is there a limitation in openstack that vcpus cant exceed cores? | 21:10 |
| kokyu | apetrescu: then check the URL path, it should start with /trunk and not /diabo or alike ;) | 21:11 |
| monst | cause that would straight kill the project I am working on | 21:11 |
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| kokyu | monst: it can, see cpu_allocation_ratio (=1.5) | 21:11 |
| kokyu | monst: same goes for RAM | 21:11 |
| monst | ah thank god! | 21:11 |
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| kokyu | I wasn't able to verify that yet, because there's also a mac_cores setting in nova.conf, that bothers me, but you can tell me as soon as you did ;) | 21:12 |
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| monst | gonna try it now | 21:13 |
| kbringard | I believe max_cores is the number of VCPUs that a compute can have assigned to it | 21:13 |
| kbringard | before the scheduler will stop giving it VMs | 21:13 |
| kokyu | kbringard: yeah, but how does that play together with the cpu_allocation_ratio, that explictely means, that you can overcommit the number of physical CPUs on that compute node | 21:14 |
| kbringard | no idea, I ws not aware of the allocation ratio | 21:15 |
| kokyu | :) | 21:16 |
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| kokyu | can anyone tell me the relation between the networks created via `nova-manage network ...` and the nova.conf's flat_network_dhcp_start=$IP value? the latter seems to work for just one network, but if you've created multiple networks via nova-manage (each for one project, being associated), then this does not fit. | 21:17 |
| kokyu | same for the fixed_range flag | 21:18 |
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| monst | anyone run stackops distro? | 21:20 |
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| kokyu | monst: we tried at our company (a college of mine), but we ended up with installing directly on a Ubuntu 12.04 ;) | 21:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996190 in openstack-ci "Selenium support on CI infrastructure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996190 | 21:21 |
| monst | kokyu yeah we will probably go that route too | 21:22 |
| monst | the nova.conf is located @ /var/lib/nova/bin/nova.conf | 21:22 |
| monst | and says not to change the settings manually | 21:22 |
| monst | any idea what that is about? | 21:22 |
| kokyu | because stackops is meant to configure everything for ya | 21:23 |
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| kokyu | that's what stackops is all about. having a one-click install OpenStack deployment. (didn't work out for us either ;) | 21:23 |
| monst | yeah I wonder if i can just copy the nova.conf to /etc/nova/ | 21:23 |
| monst | and add my parameters | 21:23 |
| kokyu | doesn't work unless the processes know about it (check process list to see) | 21:24 |
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| monst | hmm | 21:25 |
| kokyu | Has anyone ever tried setting up multiple nova networks? my new VMs now always get an IP from *both* networks, created, and neither works for SSH'ing in. | 21:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #992228 in tempest "Testcase: Some new tests to be added to test_server_actions.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/992228 | 21:25 |
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| drno_ | Hiya folks. | 21:33 |
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| drno_ | Working off of "uksysadmin's" video, got openstack essex installed... but running into a couple errors with images. | 21:34 |
| drno_ | Has anyone run into problems with glance following those instructions recently? | 21:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #996199 in swift "Strange problem with account autocreate and swift dispersion" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996199 | 21:36 |
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| kokyu | drno_: do you mind giving that link away? :) | 21:39 |
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| RamJett | I'm setting up all nova stuff on a box and having problems. Any help me with a error. I manually start nova-api and get this "CRITICAL nova [-] [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keys'" . Where should I start looking? | 21:53 |
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| kokyu | RamJett: at the permissions and ownership of the path described. | 21:57 |
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| RamJett | /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/keys ... there in no file there. Did I not install something that is needed ?? | 21:58 |
| kokyu | sorry, can't help ya there then (: - maybe try starting as root | 21:59 |
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| RichardRaseley | How do I make the network which the swift proxy uses to communicate with the storage nodes different from that which the swift storage nodes use to replicate the objects? All I can see is the stuff located in the ring builder which seems to be the storage network... | 22:00 |
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| Glace | RichardRaseley: Not sure I understand your question properly.. but you can configure two variables for the PROXY ips and STORAGE ips in your conf file | 22:03 |
| RichardRaseley | That would be in the proxy conf? | 22:03 |
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| Glace | Depending on your setup.. in the proxy Conf.. I put the IP in my access network that the load balancer hit swift with.. no storage network | 22:04 |
| RichardRaseley | Glace: In my test environment I set it up so that all interfaces of both the proxy and the storage nodes are on the same subnet. | 22:04 |
| Glace | in tje object.conf for example.. I enter the IP on the storage network | 22:04 |
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| RichardRaseley | object.conf? | 22:04 |
| Glace | object-server.conf | 22:05 |
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| Glace | and other storage conf files | 22:05 |
| Glace | you can BIND your IP there | 22:05 |
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| RichardRaseley | I don't see an object-server.conf file on my proxy anywhere. | 22:05 |
| Glace | on your object server | 22:05 |
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| Glace | Ohh I see your question! | 22:06 |
| RichardRaseley | But what tells the proxy server which IPs to use to get to the storage nodes? | 22:06 |
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| Glace | Well. im not sure you can do what you ask | 22:06 |
| RichardRaseley | OK, Imagine this: | 22:06 |
| Glace | you want a different network only for replication | 22:06 |
| Glace | ? | 22:06 |
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| RichardRaseley | Load Balancer -> [Network 1] -> Swift Proxy -> [Network 2] -> Swift Store | 22:07 |
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| Glace | Ya | 22:07 |
| RichardRaseley | So the two networks are two different subnets. | 22:07 |
| RichardRaseley | Then the swift object servers do storage traffic over [Network 3] which is yet another subnet. | 22:07 |
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| Glace | Good question.. not sure you can do that | 22:08 |
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| RichardRaseley | So basically I am saying on my proxy (because I did it all in one network in my test setup) the only IPs that the swift proxy knows about are those in the ring files that are really the IPs that are used for storage replication (I think). | 22:08 |
| Glace | The proxy needs access to the network that is in the ring file | 22:08 |
| RichardRaseley | Ah, OK | 22:08 |
| Glace | again I might be wrong.. but I dont see how | 22:08 |
| RichardRaseley | Isn't the network defined in the ring file the "storage" network? Or is that not correct? | 22:09 |
| Glace | yes exactly | 22:09 |
| Glace | so on my proxy servers | 22:09 |
| Glace | I have 2 interfaces.. one on the access network and one on the storage network | 22:09 |
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| Glace | so my proxy can talk to the storage/ring network | 22:09 |
| RichardRaseley | Hmmm... | 22:10 |
| Glace | So it talks to the storage node.. on the same network that replicates.. but if you set it up well that shouldnt be too much of a problem | 22:10 |
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| RichardRaseley | OK. It is just odd because in the setup walk through @ openstack.org it says you should have a dedicated storage network seperate from that which the proxy uses (looking for the diagram). | 22:11 |
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| Glace | yes.. well thats what I do | 22:11 |
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| Glace | I have a didcated storage network.. but the proxy server needs to talk to it anyhow | 22:12 |
| Glace | thats why I have 2 different interfaces | 22:12 |
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| RichardRaseley | Glace: I think I was confused by looking at this: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/install/content/example-object-storage-installation-architecture.html | 22:13 |
| RichardRaseley | Doesn't it look like there is a seperate network on the back-side of the storage nodes there? | 22:13 |
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| RichardRaseley | I get what you are saying though - I guess I can't think of the downside to that unless replication traffic was so high that it impacted the ability of the nodes to service proxy requests? | 22:14 |
| Glace | Yes.. well if you check the diagram.. proxy still need access to storage.. | 22:15 |
| Glace | Exactly Richard.. that will happen if you do not operate it properly :) | 22:15 |
| Glace | In the small.. swift is hard to operate.. on a large cluster you wont be affected too much | 22:15 |
| Glace | You can find creative ways to.. add nodes in a small cluster.. like adding the drives with a low weight.. and increase later.. etc | 22:16 |
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| Glace | dont let a node crapped down too long .. etc etc | 22:16 |
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| RichardRaseley | I just though it might be worthwhile to explore separating the networks that the proxy uses to talk to the nodes and that which the nodes use to talk to each other *but it looks like that may not be the case). | 22:16 |
| RichardRaseley | Glace: Well, we are in a situation where we will have up to 1M file creations per day (several hundred GB). | 22:17 |
| RichardRaseley | And that will (of course) grow even more. | 22:17 |
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| RichardRaseley | So I am just trying to future-proof it without overengineering it. =X | 22:17 |
| Glace | Can I ask where you work? | 22:17 |
| RichardRaseley | I appreciate your input. | 22:17 |
| Glace | hehe ok.. but if you have a fast enought cluster.. your replications shouldnt be queued | 22:17 |
| Glace | That depends.. on many things though :) | 22:17 |
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| RichardRaseley | Glace: I work for a company called Concur Technologies. This is just one of many pilot programs we are testing to deal with this volume / capacity issues we are having. | 22:19 |
| Glace | lol ok :) | 22:19 |
| kokyu | wtf, sometimes dns_domains sql table doesn't exist, and in between the nova.projects table did not exist. (I recreated the whole database for the tests) - what could cause this miss ? | 22:19 |
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| RichardRaseley | Not so much an "issue" now as, will become an issue in the future. | 22:19 |
| Glace | hehe | 22:20 |
| Glace | well.. A swift cluster is all about operation creativity :) | 22:20 |
| Glace | If you have good operations and a good architecture.. you should do well | 22:20 |
| RichardRaseley | So you are running Swift in a production environment right now? | 22:21 |
| Glace | In Beta | 22:21 |
| RichardRaseley | Can you give me an idea of your capacity? | 22:21 |
| RichardRaseley | Ah | 22:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996217 in nova "nova.log.JSONFormatter uses record.processName" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996217 | 22:21 |
| RichardRaseley | Single or multi datacenter? | 22:21 |
| RichardRaseley | (or site) | 22:21 |
| Glace | Multi | 22:21 |
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| RichardRaseley | Hey maybe you can give me an idea about one other thing. =] | 22:21 |
| koolhead17 | Ryan_Lane, hey | 22:22 |
| RichardRaseley | I am looking at Keystone for identity management, and trying to figure out how that will work in a multi-site environemnt. | 22:22 |
| Ryan_Lane | howdy | 22:22 |
| RichardRaseley | Are you using it? | 22:22 |
| koolhead17 | where are you? :) | 22:22 |
| Glace | Nope.. we have our own auth system | 22:22 |
| RichardRaseley | Hmm... something custom? Or you use LDAP, AD, etc? | 22:22 |
| Glace | Contacting a 3rd party auth system yes | 22:23 |
| Glace | not LDAP or AD though | 22:23 |
| Glace | but it could be used for that with some modifications | 22:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | koolhead17: not at UDS | 22:23 |
| Ryan_Lane | I may only show up one day | 22:23 |
| koolhead17 | cool. :) | 22:23 |
| kokyu | "ERROR: n/a (HTTP 400)" is not human-understandable. It should say "Could not connect to nova-api: Connection refused." (or similar) instead. | 22:24 |
| RichardRaseley | Glace: Do you call that 3rd party auth system directly from the proxies or do you use a custom piece as an intermediary? | 22:25 |
| Glace | https://github.com/cloudops/cs_auth | 22:25 |
| Glace | It calls the 3rd party system directly.. (API CALLS) | 22:25 |
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| RichardRaseley | Ah, I see. Thanks. | 22:26 |
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| koolhead17 | annegentle, hey | 22:32 |
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| zykes- | koolhead17: :D | 22:36 |
| koolhead17 | hey zykes- :) | 22:36 |
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| kokyu | what happens if I actively shutdown an instance? is it is still marked as ACTIVE in the UI (and command-line). will it auto-restart after some time or can I enforce it? | 22:42 |
| kokyu | I hoped to see the status reflected in the dashboard/commandline, but it isn't (yet) | 22:42 |
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| monst | I think I figured out part of my cpu_allocation_ratio issue, the Dashboard is reporting "Hypervisor: QEMU( rdtscp, pdpe1gb, x2apic, dca, xtpr, tm2, est, vmx, ds_cpl, monitor, pbe, tm, ht, ss, acpi, ds, vme)" | 22:43 |
| monst | instead of kvm hypervisor | 22:43 |
| monst | even though --libvirt_type=kvm is set | 22:43 |
| monst | =\ | 22:43 |
| monst | is there a way to check hypervisor via command line | 22:43 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #995323 in glance "glance-api-caching pipeline should use unauthenticated-context" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995323 | 22:46 |
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| kokyu | monst: virsh list --all | 23:00 |
| kokyu | (on the compute node in question) | 23:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #995224 in glance "DELETE /v2/images/<image_id> should return 204 No Content" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/995224 | 23:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #996238 in glance "Refactor location class" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/996238 | 23:06 |
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| monst | kokyu: that lists instances, but does not show what hypervisor is running | 23:07 |
| kokyu | monst: oh lol, I misunderstood you ;) | 23:07 |
| monst | np =) | 23:08 |
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| kokyu | monst: try `nova-manage vm list` ;) | 23:08 |
| kokyu | and make sure your terminal has enough columns to display nicely ;) | 23:08 |
| kokyu | otherwise try: nova-manage vm list | less -S | 23:08 |
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| kokyu | monst: | 23:09 |
| monst | yeah | 23:09 |
| monst | still doesnt show hypervisor it is using =( | 23:10 |
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| monst | according to dashboard it is using qemu, instead of kvm =( | 23:10 |
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| monst | wanted to verify via command line | 23:11 |
| kokyu | you mean the hypervisor *TYPE* | 23:11 |
| kokyu | please be exact next time :( | 23:11 |
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| kokyu | I thought you meant the name of the hypervisor | 23:11 |
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| kokyu | I usually check via `ps -ef | grep kvm` and if it outputs kvm processes, I know it's using kvm (instead of qemu or alike) | 23:12 |
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| monst | kokyu: thanks, looks like its working | 23:17 |
| monst | i tweeted to stackops to see how to update the cpu_allocation_ratio | 23:18 |
| monst | hopefully they get back | 23:18 |
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| RamJett | Where is a good place to read about the networking part of nova. I think my network part should be easy ' I can do it in libvirt in 5 minutes' but I do not know all these term they are using in the nova.conf "flat_network .. floating .." I've been looking and the docs and just can't get my head around what part of the network is being setup. I is real hard to follow docs when they say 'This is what you add for floating .. ' I do not know wha | 23:36 |
| RamJett | t the terms them self mean. | 23:36 |
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| salgado | mnewby, ok, just let me know what needs doing and I'll do it :) | 23:56 |
| salgado | (oops, wrong channel. was talking about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/7019/) | 23:57 |
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