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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031150 in swift "Creating a pseudo folder with the same name of one object at the same level would overwrite the object into a folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031150 | 01:11 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031151 in swift "Creating a pseudo folder with the same name of one object at the same level would overwrite the object into a folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031151 | 01:11 |
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| Guest45414 | hey guys, I was wondering if someone could help me troubleshoot a swift issue | 02:05 |
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| Guest45414 | so, I'm running a cluster, but I've found that upon initial startup of the proxy server, it takes > 10 minutes before the auth middleware will begin to respond to any queries | 02:06 |
| Guest45414 | after it starts responding, everything seems fine | 02:06 |
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| Guest45414 | during that 10 minute window, CPU usage on the proxy-server process appears to hit 100% periodically | 02:06 |
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| Guest45414 | also from the client side of things, I get connection established for the request but it hangs at the first part of the handshake | 02:07 |
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| Guest45414 | On the server, it shows that the connection is established as well | 02:07 |
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| Guest45414 | this appears to happen with both swauth and tempauth | 02:08 |
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| notmyname | Guest45414: sounds like it may be taking a while to load the ring. although >10 min sounds like something is wrong. | 02:10 |
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| Guest45414 | notmyname: Is there any way to get better debug messages? | 02:12 |
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| Guest45414 | Also my rings are miniscule (it's a fresh install of the cluster). ~30 accounts, < 30 containers, < 100 objects | 02:15 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031164 in keystone "Support PostgreSQL w/ migration 002" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031164 | 02:21 |
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| swifterdarrell | Guest45414: and your partpower is low-ish? | 02:27 |
| swifterdarrell | Guest45414: you could strace one of your proxy-server workers to see what it's up to (if possible) | 02:28 |
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| Guest45414 | swifterdarrell: partpower is set to 8 | 02:28 |
| swifterdarrell | Guest45414: strace -s 2048 -v -f -F -o /tmp/proxy-server.strace -p <PID> | 02:29 |
| swifterdarrell | attaching ASAP after the parent proxy-server spawns its worker should work | 02:29 |
| swifterdarrell | if that misses something for some reason, you could start the whole thing under strace and detangle the PIDs later | 02:30 |
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| swifterdarrell | Guest45414: (using strace was how I noticed that a proxy-server was chewing CPU loading the ring one time, but as notmyname said, 10 min is crazy, esp. w/a part power of 8) | 02:31 |
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| notmyname | Guest45414: sorry for the delay (but you're in good hands with swifterdarrell). you could turn on DEBUG logs (log_level = DEBUG) to see if that shows anything else. or you could use curl -vvv to see what's going on on the request side of things | 02:36 |
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| nulldata | What are the best log files to check when I get "2012-07-30 22:33:53 CRITICAL nova [-] (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None" when providing IPs for my nova instances? | 02:41 |
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| Guest45414 | swifterdarrell: Can I attach it to any of the workers? | 03:02 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031185 in python-glanceclient "v2 API should not return images or access records in containers" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031185 | 03:11 |
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| Guest45414 | Hmm, so interestingly, when I only specified 1 worker, the process happened much quicker (< 30 seconds) | 03:15 |
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| Guest45414 | notmyname: no worries - thanks for the help | 03:17 |
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| Guest45414 | So the straces show that the workers go through a bunch of reads of binary data | 03:19 |
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| notmyname | Guest45414: how many workers did you have? | 03:20 |
| Guest45414 | right now it's set to 5 | 03:21 |
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| notmyname | how many cores? how many spindles? | 03:21 |
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| Guest45414 | single core, single spindle | 03:24 |
| Guest45414 | it's a micro tier ec2 instance (for testing purposes) | 03:24 |
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| notmyname | reading the ring files is a cpu-bound task. so 5 tasks sharing 1 core doesn't make for a happy computer | 03:25 |
| notmyname | I wouldn't expect that it would stretch it into 10 minutes, but it does at least partially explain it | 03:26 |
| Guest45414 | My ring files (after compression) are each under 300 KB | 03:26 |
| notmyname | also, the "reads binary data" == loading the ring file (probably) | 03:26 |
| notmyname | hmm | 03:26 |
| Guest45414 | I'm trying now with two workers to see how that fares | 03:27 |
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| Guest45414 | yeah, even with 2 workers, it's extremely slow | 03:29 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031191 in keystone "PKI key_size=2048 causes truncation errors on 'id' column" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031191 | 03:31 |
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| Guest45414 | Just retried with a single worker, and it took about 2 minutes from spawning the child worker to responding to the request | 03:39 |
| Guest45414 | so, something doesn't seem right | 03:39 |
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| notmyname | no, but 10 minutes with 5 workers on a cpu bound task and one core makes sense now :-) | 03:43 |
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| notmyname | Guest45414: do you know which ring file is taking so long? account? container? object? | 03:44 |
| Guest45414 | I'm not sure | 03:44 |
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| Guest45414 | Looks like it's the object ring | 04:00 |
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| Guest45414 | Actually, they all seem to be equally slow :/ | 04:01 |
| notmyname | Guest45414: how important is the data in your cluster? there is something we could try, but it could involve having your current data become unavailable for a while | 04:03 |
| Guest45414 | The data isn't important at all | 04:04 |
| Guest45414 | I'm all up for trying crazy | 04:04 |
| notmyname | Guest45414: then I'd suggest making a backup of your current builder files and then recreating your rings (same part power if you want to keep your data, different part power if you don't mind losing it all). since the rings have a random element in their creation, perhaps a different ring may fix it. if there is an edge case with a particular ring layout, then new rings shoudl fix the issue | 04:05 |
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| Guest45414 | I think I've actually tried it with multiple ring layouts | 04:08 |
| Guest45414 | I can try again though | 04:08 |
| Guest45414 | I may just give up on trying to run swift on EC2 and wait until our actual hardware comes in | 04:09 |
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| Guest45414 | notmyname: Thanks for all the help. I'm gonna head out for now. I'm going to try fiddling around with it | 04:27 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031213 in horizon "Error in quickstart guide" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031213 | 06:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031245 in python-keystoneclient "Get a User by Name" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031245 | 08:25 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, i'm trying to start nova-objectstore but i get "Cannot assign requested address" but there is nothing running on port 3333 and neither objectstore | 08:30 |
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| koolhead11 | alex88: did nova.conf has any info on the same | 08:31 |
| alex88 | koolhead11, is the s3_host option? | 08:32 |
| alex88 | koolhead11, you're right ;) i had to move that ip on that machine :) | 08:33 |
| livemoon | koolhead11: hi | 08:33 |
| koolhead11 | alex88: :P | 08:33 |
| koolhead11 | livemoon: long time buddy | 08:33 |
| koolhead11 | how are you? | 08:33 |
| livemoon | fine, are you going to china? | 08:33 |
| koolhead11 | livemoon: i doubt unless some magic happnes | 08:34 |
| koolhead11 | livemoon: but there are so many other folks you should surely be there | 08:34 |
| livemoon | :) | 08:35 |
| koolhead11 | livemoon: make sure to be there if you want i can introduce you to the organizers there, you can even show some demo and all if your intersted :P | 08:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031263 in nova "Flavor extra_specs extension mixed the flavor_id and instance_type_id" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031263 | 09:06 |
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| alexn6 | hi all! Does swift 1.4.8 work with swauth/tempauth? I cannot manage to do right config for that | 09:20 |
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| melmoth | koolhead11, works :-) | 09:33 |
| melmoth | some iptables magic. | 09:33 |
| melmoth | and as usual, its while writing a 100000 line mail explaining my problem step by step that it works :) | 09:33 |
| * koolhead11 kicks melmoth | 09:34 | |
| koolhead11 | you should better made a golden install script for your deployment | 09:34 |
| melmoth | a what now ? | 09:35 |
| melmoth | i was not even able to install thinsg manually up to now | 09:35 |
| melmoth | well, except if i had a full set of hardware to play with. But what i have is a laaaarge kvm hypervisor | 09:35 |
| melmoth | (wich is nice, better than my 8G machine) | 09:36 |
| koolhead11 | melmoth: :P | 09:36 |
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| notze | whats the common network model for a scaleable productive setup with 1 NIC per host? | 09:46 |
| notze | flatdhcp? | 09:46 |
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| koolhead11 | anyone tried LXC with Essex | 10:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031285 in horizon "vm_states referenced but not being imported into scheduler/manager.py" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031285 | 10:11 |
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| notze | what does this tell me: 2012-07-31 10:32:44,779 - util.py[WARNING]: 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [50/120s]: url error [timed out] | 10:33 |
| koolhead11 | it means its not able to fetch metadata infos | 10:36 |
| koolhead11 | and it seems its a warning | 10:36 |
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| alex88 | what should i place into vncserver_proxyclient_address option? | 11:09 |
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| koolhead11 | alex88: IP of your nova compute | 11:09 |
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| koolhead11 | :) | 11:09 |
| CloudMan | Hi stackers | 11:09 |
| CloudMan | i want to ask if someone tried to install Openstack + Quantum using Devstack ! | 11:10 |
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| alex88 | koolhead11, so localhost :) | 11:10 |
| CloudMan | what do you think ? | 11:10 |
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| alex88 | CloudMan, me not :) | 11:10 |
| CloudMan | alex88: thanks, but did you hear about someone who did it ? | 11:10 |
| koolhead11 | alex88: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1121216/ | 11:11 |
| koolhead11 | care to replace it with the IP of nova compute host machine | 11:11 |
| koolhead11 | alex88: also read the docs :P | 11:13 |
| alex88 | koolhead11, i just used vncserver_listen to 0.0.0.0 | 11:13 |
| alex88 | and base_url has the public ip | 11:14 |
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| koolhead11 | alex88: is it a single machine setup? | 11:14 |
| koolhead11 | i just mentioned what i used in my case | 11:14 |
| alex88 | koolhead11, nope, 2 machines.. btw with 127.0.0.1 works fine ;) but i still can't get network ip | 11:15 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | hi | 11:24 |
| p3N74D4v1D | I have a setup with one controller | 11:25 |
| p3N74D4v1D | and a compute node | 11:25 |
| p3N74D4v1D | but the compute node's VM cannot receive ip address fromt the DHCP server | 11:25 |
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| koolhead11 | dolphm: hey | 11:31 |
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| dolphm | koolhead11: i'm only half awake, but hey | 11:32 |
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| koolhead11 | dolphm: will poke you later then. :) | 11:33 |
| dolphm | koolhead11: trying to decide between another hour or so of sleep and coffee lol | 11:33 |
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| koolhead11 | dolphm: dahh. coffee :P | 11:33 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031317 in keystone "log errors when signing/verification fail" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031317 | 11:55 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | hey folks | 12:46 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | what does the --fixed_range options | 12:46 |
| p3N74D4v1D | in the nova config file stand for? | 12:47 |
| p3N74D4v1D | I can't find really good answer on the internet | 12:47 |
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| kviiri | I get the following error when trying to boot a VM with Quantum networking: ERROR: NetworkNotFound: Network 8c842e6b-808c-4792-87bb-739c5035a046 could not be found. (HTTP 400) | 12:50 |
| kviiri | Using a command similar to the one found on this page: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-network/admin/content/specifying-vm-network-connectivity-on-boot.html | 12:50 |
| kviiri | The network exists, and shows up when I run nova-manage network list | 12:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031327 in openstack-manuals "Compute Admin guide won't build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031327 | 12:51 |
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| dolphm | koolhead11: alright, i'm coffee'd | 12:52 |
| koolhead11 | dolphm will ping you once am home. | 12:53 |
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| dolphm | koolhead11: cool | 12:53 |
| koolhead11 | :) | 12:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031291 in openstack-dashboard "TypeError when trying to delete an unnamed volume via dashboard" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031291 | 12:56 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | hello | 13:09 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | I have a compute node whch cannot receive any IP address from the nova-network server | 13:09 |
| zynzel | hrhr, great cloud :) 80 cpus, alphabet 26 chars, password length: 7, crack time: 8min ;D | 13:09 |
| p3N74D4v1D | when I capture packets from the nova-network | 13:10 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | no DHCP request is received | 13:10 |
| kviiri | zynzel: A relative of mine works in a financial institute that has an official password policy not far from that :( | 13:10 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | I have the feeling, the request doesnt get to the server | 13:10 |
| zynzel | kviiri: i have above 1k vcpus... | 13:10 |
| zynzel | but can play with all infrastructure for fun :D | 13:11 |
| p3N74D4v1D | anyidea how I can manage that?? | 13:11 |
| zynzel | cant* | 13:11 |
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| kviiri | p3N74D4v1D: Are the compute nodes sending any DHCP requests? | 13:12 |
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| kviiri | I had issues with DHCP requests going lost en route to the network node earlier, couldn't figure exactly what caused it but they did leave the compute nodes intact | 13:13 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1D, i never experienced this kind of problem... no idea what it could be. Anything funny in the /var/log/nova/* log file of bothnodes ? | 13:13 |
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| trygvis | hello! I followed this guide http://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackPuppetHowto, and it work up until I'm trying to boot an image, after that it just hangs. where should I start to look? | 13:13 |
| melmoth | trygvis, not sure i understand what "hangs" mean here. But what i do when i do not know what s going on with an image , is 1) euca-get-console output of it | 13:14 |
| melmoth | and 2) look on the compute nodes's /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log | 13:14 |
| trygvis | hangs as in the "nova boot .. --poll" command never returns. no output either | 13:15 |
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| trygvis | I can't see anything in particular related to errors in nova-compute.log. the last message is "Connected to AMQP server on .." | 13:17 |
| melmoth | can you run other nova commande (nova list) ? | 13:17 |
| trygvis | is there perhaps something that's not consuming messages? | 13:17 |
| p3N74D4v1D | melmoth checking | 13:17 |
| trygvis | yes, they seem to work | 13:17 |
| melmoth | what i find funny is you dont get a prompt back. | 13:17 |
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| trygvis | I've added the image, created a network and I can list services | 13:17 |
| trygvis | melmoth: isn't the --poll argument meant for it to wait for some sort of ACK that it has booted? | 13:18 |
| melmoth | usually, nova commands are asynchornous so you launch them, and then yo wait.. i wonder why in your case, you cannot even launch it | 13:18 |
| melmoth | ah, may be, i never used this option, no idea what it does :) | 13:18 |
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| trygvis | with "nova list" I now see two items, with state=BUILDING | 13:18 |
| trygvis | err, BUILD | 13:18 |
| melmoth | ok, so it means the compute node are building them. | 13:19 |
| trygvis | how can I tell which compute node it's running on? | 13:19 |
| melmoth | i would expect more stuff to happen on tne compute nova-compute.log than just telling it can conect to rabbit | 13:19 |
| melmoth | with nova, i do not know. With euca-describe-instance it tells you wich compute node it s on | 13:19 |
| kviiri | Machines can hang in BUILD state and remain in it indefinitely | 13:20 |
| kviiri | So it's not necessarily actually "building" even if it's in BUILD state | 13:20 |
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| _val_ | from what I know is when the error message "err buildign" appears, a network issue occurs. This is directly related to the network. An IP address could not be assigned or the actual VM is in the wrong VLAN (if vlan is being used). | 13:24 |
| _val_ | Correct me if I'm wrong. | 13:24 |
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| trygvis | hm, perhaps. I'm using the puppet based setup which is using vlans | 13:25 |
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| trygvis | how can I debug that? | 13:26 |
| p3N74D4v1D | melmoth nothing weird in the log files | 13:27 |
| _val_ | trygvis: logs. | 13:28 |
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| _val_ | /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log and the rest.. | 13:28 |
| trygvis | right. except that nothing seems to be written there, everything just hangs | 13:29 |
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| trygvis | I see that there is a package called nova-network, should that be installed on the controller node? | 13:32 |
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| kviiri | At least usually, yes | 13:32 |
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| melmoth | i tend to install nova-network on a compute node. not sure if it sok on a non compute node | 13:34 |
| trygvis | from the puppet page I linked above, I see nova-network is running on both compute nodes | 13:34 |
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| kviiri | melmoth: At least on our setups the network node is always separate from compute nodes | 13:35 |
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| kviiri | But I think you can go either way | 13:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031351 in nova "nova-compute dies without proper error message" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031351 | 13:45 |
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| nagaraj | Hi all | 13:51 |
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| Disconnect | is this an ok place to talk about ubuntu's "private cloud" openstack setup? got some quick architecture questions and we're in crisis mode right now. | 14:00 |
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| Disconnect | for starters, the ubuntu doc says opencloud requires 10 servers. any way to get by with 1 for now and 8 total? (the other seven are hung up in inventory, should have them this week.) | 14:02 |
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| * Disconnect needs to migrate a vm to the one node, then I can add a second - the current host of that vm - and the other 6 arrive this week. | 14:03 | |
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| trygvis | that should be fine, I've seen several setup guides with only one node | 14:03 |
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| Disconnect | in the original cloud days (eucalyptus) it routed all the traffic through 1 node. i'm assuming "pluggable" etc means that isn't an issue with openstack. is that a safe assumption? | 14:05 |
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| trygvis | I have no idea, I'm just getting my feet wet myself | 14:05 |
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| * Disconnect has 100 scientists sitting with their thumbs up their .. waiting for this stuff to get running again. (Not my fault, been tellnig them for a year it would die, but it is my problem) so I know I can probably find a lot of this online but I want to knock out our biggest showstoppers before I go any deeper in evaluations. gotta hve -something- built before I go home today.. | 14:06 | |
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| Disconnect | crap. is http://wiki.openstack.org/IscsiBlueprint accurate, in that it isn't actually supported? that is a showstopper, all our backend storage is iscsi.. | 14:14 |
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| melmoth | hmmm, why is there nothing listening on port 8775 on the box i run nova-api on ? | 14:24 |
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| melmoth | i havent set enabled_apis in nova.conf, so it should comes with metadata by default, should it not ? | 14:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031063 in nova "internal error no supported architecture for os type 'hvm'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031063 | 14:31 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | melmoth any idea ?? | 14:34 |
| p3N74D4v1D | I checked and I noticed the | 14:34 |
| p3N74D4v1D | DHCP request doesn't even get to the controller | 14:34 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1D, unfortnuatly, no idea: dhcp always worked "out fo the box" here, so i have not the sligght clue about how it works :) | 14:35 |
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| p3N74D4v1D | np melmoth thanks anyway | 14:41 |
| melmoth | p3N74D4v1D, you in germany ? wich part if i may ask ? | 14:42 |
| * melmoth is in strasbourg. not really germany, but hey :) | 14:42 | |
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| wouter_ | hi guys, question: how are the qemu/kvm VNC ports on the compute hosts protected? | 14:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1025667 in nova "[nova-volume][tgtd] Implement authentication to targets" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025667 | 14:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031372 in keystone "keystone-manage pki_setup creates certs owned by root" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031372 | 14:46 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031373 in keystone "rename disable_pki=False config option" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031373 | 14:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031374 in openstack-manuals "Validate internal cross references" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031374 | 14:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1028718 in nova "nova volumes are inappropriately clingy for ceph" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1028718 | 15:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031021 in nova "nova x509-create-cert times out" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031021 | 15:01 |
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| notze | we have 2 server 1 is novacontroller and 1 novacompute how can the network of compute be configured to request the ip adress from the controller if they are in diffrent networks | 15:04 |
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| notze | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/outbound-traffic-flow-with-any-flat-networking.html Figure 9.7. Single adaptor hosts, second route how are the bridges connected if we have 2 public ips? | 15:06 |
| notze | the bridges are only local | 15:06 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031396 in glance "xattr and pysendfile dependencies broke Hyper-V integration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031396 | 15:36 |
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| swinchen | Can anyone recommend a good openstack guide? Preferably one with VLAN. | 15:40 |
| swinchen | I am looking at this (http://dodeeric.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PDF/Install-Your-Own-OpenStack-Cloud-Essex-Edition.pdf) right now and it seems pretty good. Not a fan of their db permissions... | 15:41 |
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| Disconnect | can maas and juju coexist on the same node? | 15:43 |
| trygvis | swinchen: this one has mostly worked for me, it includes vlans: http://wiki.debian.org/OpenStackPuppetHowto | 15:44 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031403 in python-novaclient "utils.py invokes printt which has been removed in prettyprint >= 0.6.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031403 | 15:45 |
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| Disconnect | oh. i can use vms. well thats easy. | 15:47 |
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| swinchen | thanks trygvis | 15:48 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031405 in nova "SADeprecationWarning: Pool.add_listener is deprecated. Use event.listen()" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031405 | 15:50 |
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| rosco_ | Is it possible to add Content-Type: text/plain to an public readable ojbect in swift so a user can embed this in a website? | 15:52 |
| notmyname | rosco_: sure | 15:53 |
| trygvis | hmm, I'm still not able to get any further. the images are still at BUILD | 15:53 |
| rosco_ | notmyname: How does one fix this, with only curl at my side | 15:53 |
| rosco_ | I can do a put, --binary-data | 15:53 |
| rosco_ | with curl | 15:53 |
| rosco_ | But how do i set the content-type header | 15:53 |
| notmyname | rosco_: curl -i -XPOST -H "Content-Type: foo/bar" -H "X-Auth-Token: <your token here>" <your storage url here>/container/object | 15:53 |
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| rosco_ | notmyname: Awesome, will try now | 15:54 |
| notmyname | rosco_: note that when updating metadata on an object, set the complete new set of metadata, not just the delta | 15:54 |
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| trygvis | all the queues/topics are empty as far as I can tell | 15:56 |
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| trygvis | hm, the "nova boot" command hangs even without --poll | 17:09 |
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| trygvis | oh, finally something that fails: nova --debug console-log FirstTest. http://pastie.org/4366237 | 17:13 |
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| trygvis | aaargh, no errors in any logs. this is really annoying :) | 17:40 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031436 in python-glanceclient "Glance client should allow the purge of a single property" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031436 | 17:46 |
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| trygvis | from this it seems that it's stuck in the very first stage (Compute.api.create_db_entry_for_new_instance) http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/vmstates.html#create-instance-states | 17:52 |
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| rosco_ | Hi guys, is it possible to stream a swf (or any other video file) from swift directly? | 17:58 |
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| notmyname | rosco_: a simple question, but the answer may be complicated. the simple answer is "yes" | 18:00 |
| notmyname | rosco_: but what are you trying to do? | 18:00 |
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| rosco_ | notmyname: I mean like this: http://www.bucketexplorer.com/documentation/amazon-s3--how-to-stream-flv-video-from-amazons3.html | 18:00 |
| rosco_ | They talk about enable-ing Streaming Distribution | 18:01 |
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| rosco_ | Is it something Swift can do? | 18:01 |
| notmyname | rosco_: same thing using a swift cluster (Rackspace cloud files) http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/index.php/Simple_Flash_Examples | 18:01 |
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| rosco_ | notmyname: Awesome, trying now. | 18:02 |
| notmyname | rosco_: but there is more to it than just swift. flash video streaming is complicated (multiple protocols and clients) and requires additional pieces that don't come with swift | 18:02 |
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| notmyname | rosco_: for example, to be able to scrub the video, you need a server-side component | 18:03 |
| rosco_ | mm ok | 18:03 |
| annegentle | anyone have suggestions for a video about OpenStack to put on the front wiki page? Monthly rotations on those. | 18:03 |
| notmyname | (same with seeking in the video before the whole thing is downloaded) | 18:03 |
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| annegentle | maybe this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHJ4jMQ1On8 | 18:04 |
| annegentle | (Installing OpenStack Swift in a VM) | 18:04 |
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| rosco_ | notmyname: I can imagine that the proxy/object servers need some extra filters/plugins to serve another part of the (video)object. | 18:07 |
| notmyname | rosco_: it really depends. swift already supports HTTP range requests, so if the protocol being used is HTTP, then it's sortof ok (eg with HTML5 video). if you are using flash (ie RTMP), you need a server component. either way, you still need the ability server-side to handle keyframes in the video. that's something that is external to swift | 18:09 |
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| notmyname | rosco_: and then of course there is the issue of auth | 18:10 |
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| notmyname | rosco_: so like I said, yes it can be done (and rackspace is an example). but swift is only part of the total solution | 18:10 |
| rosco_ | notmyname: Ok, well.. I am trying to put some cool examples on our fresh swift platform go give customers an idea of what the can do with it. | 18:11 |
| rosco_ | go=to | 18:11 |
| Glace_ | The storing/access of medical imaging files for PACS backend is always a good example :) My favorite one | 18:13 |
| notmyname | rosco_: I can link you to a cool piece of demoware | 18:14 |
| notmyname | rosco_: https://github.com/swiftstack/swinterest | 18:14 |
| notmyname | rosco_: that's a pinterest clone that is backed in swift and implemented completely in swift middleware | 18:15 |
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| notmyname | annegentle: I think that's a great video. of course I'm not unbiased there. ;-) | 18:18 |
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| guimaluf | notmyname, you said that you will help me with my swift planning. so, with a small infrastructure(10 server) should I use every node server as a swift server or just use one node? | 18:20 |
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| notmyname | guimaluf: tell me more about your use case. high writes? high reads? mixed? large files? small files? mixed? | 18:20 |
| trygvis | does anyone have a clue on how to get any debug information from openstack? | 18:21 |
| rosco_ | notmyname: Thnx, trying it now :) | 18:21 |
| notmyname | guimaluf: give me a few minutes. I need to run to pick up some lunch | 18:21 |
| guimaluf | notmyname, I cannot predict the use of all ifnrastructure. I think in both case are mixed | 18:21 |
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| guimaluf | notmyname, no problem! :) take your time | 18:22 |
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| Glace_ | guimaluf: I can try to help a bit too.. what is the current use case? If you do not know what will be on it you might want to go with a God knows what will be there startegy, meaning balancing everything but not having a very strong or weak point | 18:23 |
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| guimaluf | Glace_, yes, exactly that. what I want is a mid term. | 18:24 |
| guimaluf | my infrastructure will be use for academics porpuse, alot of projects may use this cloud. | 18:24 |
| Glace_ | Is uptime important? If you ony use one node. you will have uptime issues :) What type of node do you have? | 18:24 |
| Glace_ | You bought the servers and hard drives already? | 18:25 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, yes, HA is very important. | 18:25 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, 16 servers, with 24, 96GB ram, 2x4TB, 4 NICS, each | 18:25 |
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| Glace_ | And you want to use all servers? | 18:26 |
| Glace_ | 8TB per server? | 18:26 |
| guimaluf | I'll buiild a production(6) and a development(10) infrastructure | 18:26 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, Yes, 8TB :) more then enough right? :) | 18:27 |
| guimaluf | I dont know if RAID5 is a god idea | 18:27 |
| Glace_ | Well.. I had 100Tb per server in my setup :) | 18:27 |
| guimaluf | omg xD | 18:27 |
| Glace_ | I would not use RAID... swift does replication so its useless | 18:28 |
| Diopter | Also RAID5 is a terrible choice. | 18:28 |
| Glace_ | hehe :) | 18:28 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, I didn't figure out how use swift as glance and instances vd backend | 18:28 |
| guimaluf | but is it possible right? | 18:29 |
| Glace_ | Hmm not of my knowledge.. it does not do block storage | 18:29 |
| Glace_ | brb 5min | 18:29 |
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| Glace_ | You can use a SAN, local storage or other block storage technologies to host your vms | 18:31 |
| guimaluf | hmm is true. but do nova instances use block storage? I think they use disk files | 18:31 |
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| Glace_ | I think nova-volumes does.. but I am not a nova person | 18:32 |
| guimaluf | exactly I'm using glusterfs but it is too slow | 18:32 |
| Glace_ | Yes, object storage systems in general are not the best to host vms | 18:32 |
| annegentle | guimaluf: my understanding is that backing glance with swift is completely possible but notifications when an image is unavailable do not make it back through the chain to nova - bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/956469 | 18:32 |
| Glace_ | ohhh just backing glance :) | 18:33 |
| annegentle | guimaluf: that might not be the exact right bug | 18:33 |
| annegentle | you can definitely back glance with swift | 18:33 |
| Glace_ | Yes.. but not host nova vms on swift.. I think there were 2 parts to your question | 18:33 |
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| guimaluf | Glace_, make sense do not host vm with swift. :) | 18:34 |
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| guimaluf | this is another doubt I have. worth use a distributed fs to host vm? | 18:35 |
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| Glace_ | So, if you want to use all the space possible and you do not matter much on small writes performance.. You can have 10 servers with objects,accounts,containers services and maybe 2 with proxy service also. | 18:35 |
| Glace_ | Its not the best for performance though. | 18:35 |
| Glace_ | You will be load balancing your cluster? | 18:36 |
| guimaluf | I think swift will not be the main character in my IaaS. | 18:36 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, will be good but not necessary. Will be used by few user, 100 at max. | 18:37 |
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| Glace_ | Well you said HA was important.. if you dont load balance the request it will only go to one proxy server and if that one dies you are done | 18:38 |
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| Glace_ | well.. not done but you will have downtime | 18:39 |
| guimaluf | but I think one server can handle all requests. but this server cannot die. that's why HA is importante but LB not too much. | 18:39 |
| Glace_ | A server will always die even if you buy the best hardware possible | 18:40 |
| Glace_ | Swift is meant to be run on cheap hardware since the software handles the replication | 18:40 |
| guimaluf | yes, I know that! | 18:40 |
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| guimaluf | for swift service I dont need RAID, or anything about replication. But sould I use something with nova instaces and volume? | 18:41 |
| Glace_ | Well in that case you need 2 servers handling the requests. You said uptime was important | 18:42 |
| guimaluf | yep. | 18:42 |
| guimaluf | instances* | 18:43 |
| Glace_ | So I would suggest at least 2 servers with the proxy service on.. You can always use dns round robinto load balance between the two if you do not want anything complicated and you do not need ssl | 18:43 |
| guimaluf | I'm a little bit insecure about my cloud project. I couldn't plan anything :/ | 18:44 |
| Glace_ | Well for instances... it depends on your setup and your needs.. Aws dont use raid for their ephemeral storage | 18:44 |
| Glace_ | hehe | 18:44 |
| guimaluf | I think replication is more valuable than raid, right? | 18:45 |
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| guimaluf | I'll lose a whole disk for raid, while I could just replicate everything | 18:46 |
| Glace_ | Well for swift | 18:46 |
| notmyname | guimaluf: back. looks like you're getting good answers from Glace_ | 18:46 |
| Glace_ | Swift will do it for you | 18:46 |
| guimaluf | notmyname, yes, he's helping me alot! :) | 18:46 |
| guimaluf | making things clear! | 18:47 |
| chadh | Is anyone using diablo with ubuntu 11.04? | 18:47 |
| Glace_ | You should go over the swift admin documentation a few times.. that might help | 18:48 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, so, is a good ideia use all node server as a account, container and object services and 2 proxy. for swift. | 18:48 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, ok. but I think this is enough for swift! :) now I need to solve my instances and volume questions. | 18:48 |
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| Glace_ | Again, depending on use cases. If want to be efficient for $ and do not care much about performance, you can put all these services on all boxes.. and 2 with all services including the proxy service | 18:49 |
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| Glace_ | hehe :) | 18:49 |
| vachon | trygvis yt? | 18:50 |
| guimaluf | I think swift performance isn't a priority. maybe in instances and volumes | 18:50 |
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| chadh | I am trying to use the cloudbuilder packages and following the ibm developerworks docs for installing a cloud controller | 18:50 |
| chadh | the install seems to go smoothly, but I am running into what appears to be a bug in the web interface. | 18:51 |
| trygvis | vachon: hm? | 18:51 |
| vachon | rt chat on your issue | 18:51 |
| guimaluf | Glace_, thank you very much for your help! :) | 18:52 |
| chadh | http://pastie.org/4366748 | 18:52 |
| vachon | can you pastebin your puppet module config, redadcted where needed | 18:52 |
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| trygvis | vachon: http://pastie.org/4366760 | 18:54 |
| vachon | is your switch setup for vlan? | 18:54 |
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| Glace_ | guimaluf: no problem! | 18:55 |
| vachon | 99% of the time when something gets stuck, its due to vlan | 18:55 |
| vachon | also i have seen a case where /etc/sudoers.d/nova was missing | 18:55 |
| vachon | specifically coming out of puppet | 18:55 |
| trygvis | cat /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers => nova ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/nova-rootwrap, so that looks fine | 18:56 |
| vachon | can you do a nova-manager service list ? | 18:56 |
| vachon | does it have the tty line too? | 18:57 |
| trygvis | http://pastie.org/private/jybs1jtgsgwao5f9jufa | 18:57 |
| trygvis | tty line? | 18:57 |
| vachon | Defaults:nova !requiretty | 18:57 |
| trygvis | in /etc/sudoers.d/nova_sudoers? | 18:58 |
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| vachon | yes, mine has that | 18:58 |
| trygvis | no, I don't | 18:58 |
| vachon | ok, so you are doing an all in one. My suggestion is throw nova into verbose and look at the nova-manage, nova-api, and nova-network logs | 18:58 |
| vachon | one of them will have a stack trace I think | 18:59 |
| trygvis | I've added --debug to nova.conf without getting much more info | 18:59 |
| vachon | should be --verbose=true | 18:59 |
| trygvis | is there a specific verbose flag? | 18:59 |
| trygvis | ah, ok | 19:00 |
| zykes- | trygvis: :) | 19:00 |
| Glace_ | guimaluf: let me know if you have other question on swift, if things are unclear | 19:00 |
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| guimaluf | Glace_, I'll ;) | 19:02 |
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| trygvis | nah, same thing | 19:03 |
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| vachon | paste the startup of each log | 19:03 |
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| trygvis | https://gist.github.com/f2609df6fb5ab970b5c9 | 19:07 |
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| s34n | ayoung: keystone keeps telling me it needs a token | 19:08 |
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| Chocobo | On page 24 of this guide, does the author make a serious mistake of not including a --endpoint? or is it just me? http://dodeeric.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PDF/Install-Your-Own-OpenStack-Cloud-Essex-Edition.pdf | 19:09 |
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| trygvis | vachon: can you make sense of that? | 19:14 |
| vachon | where is network? | 19:15 |
| trygvis | https://gist.github.com/f2609df6fb5ab970b5c9#file_nova_network.log | 19:16 |
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| vachon | oh miseed that | 19:16 |
| trygvis | yes, it's a lot of text | 19:16 |
| trygvis | almost exactly the same text in all log files too | 19:17 |
| vachon | and this was after you tried to start an instance | 19:17 |
| vachon | ? | 19:17 |
| trygvis | yep | 19:17 |
| vachon | very odd | 19:17 |
| vachon | im clueless | 19:18 |
| trygvis | :/ | 19:18 |
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| trygvis | it's strange that the verbose flag didn't change the output | 19:18 |
| vachon | verbose added de bug | 19:19 |
| vachon | *debug | 19:19 |
| trygvis | wait, it was already in there from the puppet stuff | 19:19 |
| vachon | ah, you had verbose = true | 19:19 |
| trygvis | yeah, it was already there from the puppet generated stuff | 19:19 |
| trygvis | so that explains that | 19:20 |
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| trygvis | it seems to be stuck in the create_db_entry_for_new_instance step from http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/devref/vmstates.html#create-instance-states | 19:21 |
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| ayoung | s34n, there are two users with devstack, admin and demo. If you try to do admin tasks with the demo user, you get denied | 19:32 |
| s34n | ayoung: I'm using admin | 19:32 |
| s34n | ayoung: but I have just obtained a token with curl | 19:33 |
| kmwhite | s34n, easier than that, you can source the openrc file | 19:33 |
| kmwhite | s34n, cd to the devstack directory and run '. ./openrc admin admin' | 19:33 |
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| trygvis | vachon: from the diagram above, it seems to be stuck even before doing network stuff | 19:38 |
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| vachon | hrm true | 19:38 |
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| trygvis | do you have any idea where I should start looking? | 19:42 |
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| vachon | sorry no | 19:44 |
| trygvis | damn. I've already email the mailing list, hopefully that will help | 19:46 |
| trygvis | thanks for your time anyway! | 19:46 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031473 in quantum "device_id should not be updated twice" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031473 | 19:46 |
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| s34n | ayoung: keystone token-get tells me 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' | 19:53 |
| ayoung | s34n, now that sounds like a legitimate bug | 19:53 |
| s34n | ayoung: I'm not willing to say 'bug'. It's probably user error | 19:54 |
| ayoung | s34n, possibly a case of the git repos being out of sync | 19:54 |
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| ayoung | s34n, the git repos are in /opt/stack | 19:54 |
| s34n | mine are current | 19:54 |
| ayoung | s34n, do you get a full stack trace? If you can, pastebin it | 19:55 |
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| s34n | ayoung: that's all I get | 19:56 |
| ayoung | try it with --debug | 19:56 |
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| s34n | ayoung: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19850/ | 19:59 |
| ayoung | s34n, is it possilbe that you have an old keystone client installed? | 20:01 |
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| s34n | brand new f17 install | 20:01 |
| ayoung | and no RPMS for openstack installed, right? | 20:01 |
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| ayoung | rpm -qa | grep openstack | 20:01 |
| s34n | just whatever devstack did | 20:01 |
| s34n | nope | 20:02 |
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| s34n | ayoung: no openstack rpms | 20:04 |
| ayoung | s34n, ls /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/keystone* | 20:05 |
| ayoung | I'm not sure what is happening, but I am guessing that some older version of the code somehow got injected | 20:05 |
| ayoung | that the kc object is an older one that doesn't have the service_catalog defined | 20:05 |
| s34n | ayoung: keystone.egg-link | 20:05 |
| ayoung | s34n, I assume [ayoung@ayoung keystone]$ cat /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/keystone.egg-link | 20:06 |
| ayoung | /opt/stack/keystone | 20:06 |
| ayoung | hmmm | 20:06 |
| s34n | ayoung: fwiw, there are no rows in the service table | 20:06 |
| ayoung | s34n, KVS is used by default | 20:06 |
| ayoung | not SQL | 20:06 |
| ayoung | but it shouldn't matter | 20:07 |
| s34n | ayoung: yes. /opt/stack/keystone | 20:07 |
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| ayoung | s34n, OK, near as I can tell, you are doing things correctly, but something is broken. I've traced it this far | 20:16 |
| ayoung | keystoneclient/v2_0/client.py line 113 | 20:16 |
| ayoung | something either failed to call _extract_service_catalog | 20:16 |
| ayoung | or that call failed in service_catalog.ServiceCatalog(body) | 20:17 |
| ayoung | You said you were able to talk to Keystone via curl, so I am guessing your keystone is OK. | 20:17 |
| ayoung | My devstack is a little out of sorts right now, so Ican't try to reproduce | 20:17 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031488 in nova "Unittest fail with precise 12.04" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031488 | 20:26 |
| s34n | ayoung: I just logged out and back in to clear any lingering ENV. Now a keystone token-get causes http://paste.openstack.org/show/19856/ | 20:26 |
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| ayoung | s34n, is it possible you have a permissions issue? | 20:27 |
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| s34n | ayoung: that last paste was as a non-root user | 20:28 |
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| ayoung | s34n, OK, and that user can read /opt/stack etc | 20:28 |
| s34n | ayoung: as root, I still get 'Client' object has no attribute 'service_catalog' | 20:28 |
| ayoung | s34n, suspecting a permissions issue | 20:28 |
| s34n | ayoung: ok. the non-root user couldn't see /opt/stack | 20:29 |
| ayoung | you probably want to chown /opt/stack to the non-root user and run devstack as non-root | 20:29 |
| s34n | ayoung: yeah. I just went back in as the stack user | 20:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031493 in horizon "Default Quotas still lists "Cores" when should be VCPUs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031493 | 20:31 |
| s34n | is there any harm in re-running stack.sh? | 20:31 |
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| ayoung | s34n, stop it first | 20:32 |
| ayoung | ./unstack.sh | 20:32 |
| ayoung | then rerunnig it should be fine | 20:32 |
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| ayoung | s34n, can I assume you are off and running? | 20:51 |
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| s34n | ayoung: no | 20:59 |
| s34n | still not working | 20:59 |
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| ayoung | s34n, K, I have to check out here shortly. If you have anything quick, let me know. You can always fire me off an email otherwise | 21:02 |
| ayoung | ayoung@redhat.com | 21:03 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031508 in ceilometer "grab latest common logging code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031508 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031509 in nova "[tgtd] iscsi-targets are not getting created." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031509 | 21:06 |
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| Disconnect | is there an easy way to convert a vmware appliance to openstack? (or to boot a vm off a cd image) | 21:26 |
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| Disconnect | is there a howto on nova.volume.san somewhere? searching isn't finding it and I'm trying to tie it into the SAN before I go any farther | 21:39 |
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| kmwhite | Disconnect, appliance? Is it as an OVA ? | 21:53 |
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| Disconnect | kmwhite: I was originally looking at openfiler (we've already got one running that I need to migrate off) but at this point I'll take anything. they offer it as a vmware appliance, I can check the format | 21:57 |
| Disconnect | looks like its full-on vmware but its convertable | 21:58 |
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| Disconnect | oh it does have an esx image as well | 21:58 |
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| kmwhite | I know that I've successfully used "qemu-img convert" much like in http://zeldor.biz/2010/12/convert-vmware-image-vmdk-to-virtualbox-image-vdi/ | 22:00 |
| kmwhite | If you can extract a VMDK from the appliance, you should be able to do the same (although, you would want to convert to qcow2 rather than vdi) | 22:00 |
| woleium | lo peeps :-) | 22:01 |
| Disconnect | sweet | 22:01 |
| kmwhite | Then, I just used 'glance add' to bring it into my OpenStack environment | 22:01 |
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| kmwhite | For me, the command was: | 22:01 |
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| kmwhite | /opt/stack/glance/bin/glance add name="My Appliance Image" disk_format=qcow2 container_format=bare is_public=True < /path/to/image/file.qcow2 | 22:02 |
| kmwhite | (I installed via devstack) | 22:02 |
| kmwhite | Disconnect, ^^ | 22:03 |
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| Disconnect | awesome thanks! | 22:06 |
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