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| Aaton | anyone have a clue why I may have a problem with glance-api starting? This is the output http://pastebin.com/7QS27wSJ and here are the configs. http://pastebin.com/DDTYV9ZU and http://pastebin.com/9iA146kr | 00:14 |
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| swinchen | Why in so many of the examples does the MySQL bind address get changed from 127.0.0.1 to 0.0.0.0? Wouldn't it make more sense to bind it to your managment IP? | 01:04 |
| kmwhite | Wasn't 0.0.0.0 the addr to bind to all interfaces? | 01:06 |
| Diopter | Yes. | 01:06 |
| swinchen | kmwhite: yes. | 01:06 |
| swinchen | I am going to try it I think. I don't see why MySQL port needs to be public. | 01:07 |
| coolj | swinchen: how are you installing openstack? devstack changes bind-address to 0.0.0.0 -- https://github.com/openstack-dev/devstack/blob/master/stack.sh#L817 | 01:11 |
| swinchen | coolj: manually | 01:13 |
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| swinchen | I guess if the database wasn't on your managment node I would understand that. | 01:14 |
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| woleium | lo :-) | 01:29 |
| woleium | is it possible to migrate an instance from one flavour to another with essex? | 01:30 |
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| clarkb | I think you can snapshot an instance then boot that snapshot with a different flavor. Not quite migrating, but close. Not sure if there is a better way | 01:34 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031578 in openstack-manuals "Document new glance client" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031578 | 02:50 |
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| tix | hello? | 03:10 |
| tix | anybody in here? | 03:10 |
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| tix | what time is openstack being rolled out to the public cloud today? | 03:10 |
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| dolphm | tix: at rax? it's available now | 03:12 |
| tix | nope | 03:12 |
| tix | not until aug 1 | 03:12 |
| tix | it's API only right now | 03:12 |
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| tix | and the new dashboard hasn't been rolled out | 03:12 |
| tix | it's "early access" right now, basically beta | 03:12 |
| tix | tomorrow (almost today) it's supposed to be fully rolled out, along with pricing models for cloud DBs and such | 03:13 |
| dolphm | tix: hrm, new control panel etc because default tomorrow? | 03:13 |
| dolphm | tix: ah ok | 03:13 |
| tix | you're probably just using the beta of openstack | 03:13 |
| tix | i'm guessing | 03:13 |
| tix | do you have the new dashboard? | 03:13 |
| dolphm | tix: i didn't opt in on this account (?) | 03:13 |
| dolphm | tix: yes, it's a link from the existing dashboard | 03:13 |
| tix | welp, apparently at 7am EST tomorrow | 03:14 |
| tix | they're rolling it out to everybody | 03:14 |
| tix | =] | 03:14 |
| tix | i'm excited | 03:14 |
| dolphm | tix: and the old control panel will be dead? :D | 03:14 |
| tix | i believe so | 03:14 |
| dolphm | tix: awesome, new one is so clean and fast | 03:14 |
| tix | maybe not, actually. i think customers can keep the old one for a couple weeks. | 03:15 |
| tix | ya, i heard that | 03:15 |
| tix | have you been using cloud databases and cloud monitoring? | 03:15 |
| dolphm | i hope it stays fast lol | 03:15 |
| tix | and load balancing looks cool too | 03:15 |
| tix | lots of cool stuff | 03:15 |
| dolphm | i don't have access to monitoring yet | 03:15 |
| dolphm | databases, yes | 03:15 |
| tix | will monitoring be free? | 03:15 |
| tix | i think cloud dns and cloud monitoring are free | 03:15 |
| tix | and cloud databases will be expensive as fuck i bet | 03:16 |
| dolphm | i asked someone in sales about pricing on monitoring last week, and they hadn't heard anything yet | 03:16 |
| tix | hey, can you use the control panel with cloud databases on your account? | 03:16 |
| tix | or is it API only? | 03:16 |
| dolphm | tix: i don't remember the details on cloud db's, but i remember thinking it was illogical but reasonable | 03:17 |
| tix | they're going to charge per DB instance | 03:17 |
| tix | as well as usage | 03:17 |
| tix | same as AWS, i'm guessing | 03:17 |
| tix | and they're not cheap | 03:17 |
| dolphm | is usage expensive? | 03:17 |
| tix | the "micro" instance is like $50/mo | 03:17 |
| tix | plus usage | 03:17 |
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| tix | because remember cloud DBs uses SSDs and is redundant | 03:18 |
| dolphm | it starts at 512MB, which would be like $20/mo for a linux instance | 03:18 |
| tix | that's why it's more expensive than a "regular" instance | 03:18 |
| dolphm | ah | 03:18 |
| dolphm | you can also choose as low as 1 GB of disk in the control panel | 03:19 |
| tix | for the DB? | 03:19 |
| dolphm | "Cloud Databases in currently in Early Access. Pricing will be available when the product reaches General Availability." | 03:19 |
| dolphm | yes | 03:19 |
| tix | 1 GB is tiny | 03:19 |
| tix | see, i was hoping it would automatically scale | 03:19 |
| tix | apparently not | 03:19 |
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| tix | i was hoping the DB size would scale infinitely and you pay for what you use | 03:19 |
| dolphm | yeah, that was my expectation when i first heard about the product | 03:19 |
| dolphm | exactly | 03:19 |
| tix | oh | 03:20 |
| tix | and everything can automatically backup to cloud files | 03:20 |
| tix | cloud servers, cloud databases, etc. | 03:20 |
| tix | can do auto backups to cloud files daily, weekly, etc. | 03:20 |
| tix | which is awesome | 03:20 |
| tix | lots of cool stuff, i can't wait | 03:21 |
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| dolphm | tix: https://mycloud.rackspace.com/ do anything for you? | 03:22 |
| tix | login prompt, ya | 03:22 |
| tix | i don't have a rackspace account, i moved to AWS about 2 years ago | 03:23 |
| tix | but i'm creating an account today as soon as openstack is rolled out =] | 03:23 |
| tix | i might be moving back to rackspace fully | 03:23 |
| dolphm | tix: you can create an account without billing anything | 03:24 |
| tix | i know, but i don't want to create it until openstack is rolled out | 03:24 |
| tix | because at 7am when they roll it out new accounts will get it immediately | 03:24 |
| tix | while old ones will be slowly migrated | 03:24 |
| dolphm | tix: i bet you can login to it given the link, either way? | 03:25 |
| tix | i don't have a login =P | 03:25 |
| dolphm | i have 3 accounts (different billing info) and all 3 can login to the new control panel | 03:26 |
| tix | PM me one of your logins | 03:26 |
| dolphm | not an option :P | 03:26 |
| tix | haha | 03:26 |
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| swinchen | ok, last noob question of the night. In reference to endpoints... what does publicurl really mean? accessible from the internet? What about the nodes behind the cloud controller? grrr. I feel stupid. | 03:37 |
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| tix | swinchen: hi | 03:40 |
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| swinchen | tix: hello | 03:41 |
| tix | does somebody have a rackspace account they don't really use? i want to check out the new control panel. | 03:41 |
| tix | if i can borrow your login credentials for like 15 mins | 03:41 |
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| RichardRaseley | swinchen: You still around? | 03:44 |
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| swinchen | RichardRaseley: Yep | 03:46 |
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| RichardRaseley | It seems publicurl is just a parameter that allows you to expose the services in question on a seperate interface than your internal interface. | 03:47 |
| RichardRaseley | I am not sure of the official documented answer, but most times I have found that the internal and public url is the same. | 03:47 |
| RichardRaseley | Since you have a known application accessing the service on a known network. | 03:48 |
| swinchen | RichardRaseley: Ok, thank you... that makes me feel much better. I am sure there are times when a publicurl might be something external (ec2 service or something), but I can't imagine why you want all your services exposed to the world | 03:49 |
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| RichardRaseley | Well, I am sure it would never be truly exposed, but is just a way of exposing a service in multiple places. | 03:49 |
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| dolphm | swinchen: publicurl is the non-admin endpoint :) safe to expose to the internet, if you wish | 03:52 |
| swinchen | Ok, I think I understand... when you say "... I have found that the internal and public url is the same..." you mean they are both on the managment network (10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x for example) right? | 03:52 |
| RichardRaseley | dolphm: That is an interesting distinction - are you saying that services accessed over that endpoint won't accept administrative commands? | 03:53 |
| dolphm | RichardRaseley: hopefully not | 03:54 |
| RichardRaseley | swinchen: I have found that they are the same (use the same network as you noted) mainly because I have done small installs so that the management networks and service networks were the same. | 03:54 |
| dolphm | RichardRaseley: internal vs public is basically private IP vs public ip/domain (difference being network usage costs at most providers) | 03:54 |
| RichardRaseley | dolpm: It seems the distinction isn't clear. =X | 03:54 |
| RichardRaseley | dolphm: OK - so it is a distinction made with an eye on OpenStack being inherently multi-tenant? | 03:55 |
| dolphm | RichardRaseley: definitely so | 03:55 |
| swinchen | dolphm: Hmmm, ok. having the adminurl bound to one of the internal networks makes perfect sense to me. Are there certain services that are more useful to expose to the world? | 03:55 |
| RichardRaseley | dolphm: Thank you for that input. | 03:55 |
| RichardRaseley | swinchen: If you were a service provider say - you would want to expose services to customers. | 03:56 |
| RichardRaseley | swinchen: What is your use case? | 03:56 |
| dolphm | swinchen: "world" = "non admin users" ? | 03:56 |
| swinchen | I am in a strange situation. I know very little about openstack but got thrown into a 32 node, 512 core monster :) | 03:56 |
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| RichardRaseley | swinchen: Whoa. | 03:57 |
| dolphm | swinchen: who will be using it? | 03:57 |
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| swinchen | dolphm: I was thinking world = internet. For security I am trying to limit what ports are open. It doesn't seem like having a nova-volume endpoint exposed to the internet would be very useful. | 04:00 |
| swinchen | The University of Maine | 04:00 |
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| tix | MAINE | 04:01 |
| tix | bro, you're from maine? | 04:01 |
| tix | i've been there once | 04:01 |
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| swinchen | I am am fighting my way through it, but the documentation isn't all that clear. It is quite... frustrating. :) | 04:01 |
| RichardRaseley | swinchen: The more useful question is what clients will be consuming services from this particular endpoint? Just internal Nova services that are provisioned by you / your team? | 04:01 |
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| dolphm | RichardRaseley: ++ | 04:03 |
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| swinchen | RichardRaseley: Hmm, that is a good question. perhaps 90% of the problem is we don't know exactly what we are doing with it yet. Most likely clients will be allocated resources by us, so there won't be a need for them to access many (if any) of the services. | 04:04 |
| swinchen | tix, born and raised. | 04:04 |
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| tix | wow | 04:05 |
| tix | do you live near millinocket? do you own lots of guns? | 04:05 |
| swinchen | It seems like there is a big gap in my knowledge about how openstack works, and why it does things the way it does. Maybe before I jump into creating endpoints I need a big picture overview. Does anyone have any good resources on the what, why and how of openstack or clouds in general? | 04:06 |
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| swinchen | I have been fighting this for days now and I think I need a different approach | 04:07 |
| tix | swinchen: it's mindfuckery, isn't it? | 04:07 |
| tix | are you using rackspace? | 04:07 |
| tix | or you have openstack on your own cloud? | 04:07 |
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| RichardRaseley | Sorry - was updating virtualbox and it messed with my NICs | 04:08 |
| tix | rofl | 04:08 |
| swinchen | tix, about an hour from Millinocket, and yes I have what many might consider an arsenal... but very few compared to many Mainers. | 04:08 |
| tix | i went to millinocket once for whitewater rafting | 04:08 |
| tix | and i like guns | 04:08 |
| swinchen | tix, never used rackspace. Trying to created my own cloud | 04:09 |
| RichardRaseley | The closest I have been to Maine is NYC | 04:09 |
| tix | NYC is a little slice of socialism in america | 04:09 |
| tix | NYC is great fun for drinking and just fucking around, but i would never live there | 04:09 |
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| tix | people who live in NYC are stuck with income tax x3 (federal, state, and city) | 04:10 |
| RichardRaseley | Socialism is an integral part of America. | 04:10 |
| tix | and the laws there are absolutely draconian | 04:10 |
| tix | naw, socialism is a cancer | 04:10 |
| tix | disguised as "looking out for your fellow man" | 04:10 |
| RichardRaseley | Not at all. | 04:10 |
| swinchen | My goal for tomorrow is try to find some reading material on cloud architecture.. | 04:10 |
| tix | RichardRaseley: "Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." | 04:11 |
| RichardRaseley | tix: That is nonsense psychobabel | 04:11 |
| swinchen | I hate cities. I find them dirty, smelly and full of people that would rather push you into the street full of taxis than give you the time of day. heh | 04:11 |
| tix | i love cities, just not NYC | 04:11 |
| tix | philadelphia is a cool city | 04:12 |
| tix | tampa is nice | 04:12 |
| tix | no offense swinchen, but maine sucks unless you're 50+ years old | 04:12 |
| tix | and don't care about being out past 9pm | 04:12 |
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| tix | i can't imagine living up there with nothing to do | 04:13 |
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| swinchen | Well, I am not a huge fan of clubs/bars/etc. My idea of a good time is sitting on the edge of the ocean and watching the stars at night. It is a pretty good place for me. | 04:13 |
| tix | ya | 04:13 |
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| tix | well my idea of a good time is hitting a bar until 1am, then hitting them club until 3am, then hitting the strip club until 5am, and then grabbing breakfast from a 24 hour diner | 04:14 |
| tix | and then driving home drunk as fuck at 6:30am | 04:14 |
| RichardRaseley | That is incredibly irresponsible. | 04:14 |
| tix | yes, i know. but it's fun. | 04:14 |
| RichardRaseley | Are you drunk or just incredibly stupid? | 04:15 |
| tix | both | 04:15 |
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| tix | i don't really drink and drive like that anymore | 04:15 |
| tix | but i do the rest | 04:15 |
| RichardRaseley | OK, I can see you're just trolling so I will bid you good night. | 04:15 |
| RichardRaseley | l8r | 04:15 |
| tix | ... | 04:15 |
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| tix | wow | 04:15 |
| swinchen | We have a dennys. I think that is open 24 hours. | 04:16 |
| tix | ya | 04:17 |
| tix | but i mean, just the atmosphere of maine | 04:17 |
| tix | is very slow paced | 04:17 |
| swinchen | That was a joke by the way. | 04:17 |
| tix | idk | 04:17 |
| swinchen | It isn't for everyone, and most of us here are thankful for that. | 04:17 |
| tix | i go up to bar harbor a couple times a year, it's fun for a couple days | 04:18 |
| tix | but i do miss the business of a city | 04:18 |
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| tix | busyness? | 04:18 |
| tix | is that a word? | 04:18 |
| swinchen | I know what you are saying. | 04:18 |
| tix | you guys have cool gun laws (sort of) | 04:19 |
| tix | that's the best part about maine | 04:19 |
| swinchen | Bar Harbor in the summer is a blood nightmare. People walk around like they have never seen a car, wearing their lobster t-shirts and eating ice cream. | 04:19 |
| tix | haha | 04:19 |
| swinchen | The Castle Law is pretty unbelievable. | 04:20 |
| tix | which is that? the one that allows you to kill black people on your front lawn? | 04:20 |
| swinchen | ? | 04:20 |
| swinchen | Well that is terrible. | 04:20 |
| tix | what kind of guns do you own, swinchen? | 04:21 |
| swinchen | Yeah, you know what I am out of here. I see the trolling now. | 04:21 |
| tix | lol... | 04:21 |
| tix | i'm not really trolling, was just curious | 04:22 |
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| tix | redhat | 04:24 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031596 in glance "Glance context never updates local.store with itself" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031596 | 04:35 |
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| dantastic | hello....i've been playing with some swift stuff lately and set up a proxy with a few storage nodes based on the install docs taht i found on openstack.org | 04:42 |
| swifterdarrell | dantastic: did you run into any trouble? | 04:42 |
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| dantastic | but there were a few random things with config files and other small stuff that was a little outdated | 04:42 |
| dantastic | does anyone know where i would let someone know that? | 04:43 |
| dantastic | or like...add an update to some of those docs | 04:43 |
| swifterdarrell | Unfortunately, I don't know, but I think annegentle would | 04:44 |
| swifterdarrell | dantastic: probably need to email her or catch her online tomorrow | 04:44 |
| dantastic | swifterdarrell: oh alright...thanks. but there was no real trouble so far. just some silly stuff like auth that i just need to play with | 04:44 |
| swifterdarrell | dantastic: cool | 04:44 |
| dantastic | btw...do you know an easy command to get the account id's? | 04:45 |
| swifterdarrell | dantastic: do you still have link(s) handy to the docs needing update? | 04:45 |
| dantastic | not the name but the actual ID of it. i couldn't find it anywhere | 04:45 |
| swifterdarrell | like the partition to which it's mapped or its MD5 sum which determines its partition? | 04:45 |
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| dantastic | md5 | 04:46 |
| swifterdarrell | Yup, it's tedious and depending on your ring's part power, slow, but here's how: | 04:46 |
| swifterdarrell | swift-get-nodes ./account.ring.gz <account_name> | 04:47 |
| swifterdarrell | (requires the actual ring tar.gz) | 04:47 |
| swifterdarrell | (not builder file) | 04:47 |
| swifterdarrell | keep in mind if you're using tempauth, the account "dev" might actually be "AUTH_dev" depending on your config | 04:47 |
| dantastic | hmmmm....interesting | 04:47 |
| swifterdarrell | That command also gives you all the "raw" locations (including handoffs!) | 04:48 |
| dantastic | i was using that and getting different numbers from what was actually showing on the storage nodes | 04:48 |
| swifterdarrell | which is pretty cool | 04:48 |
| dantastic | but probably cause i was using the tempauth | 04:48 |
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| dantastic | i'll have to try that though. thanks! | 04:48 |
| swifterdarrell | ah, yeah, that's the trickiest part: remembering the leading AUTH_ (or whatever your reseller_prefix is) | 04:48 |
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| tix | http://i.imgur.com/8tYjB.png | 04:59 |
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| tix | http://i.imgur.com/6P5MC.png | 05:13 |
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| coolj | http://i.imgur.com/Y2bto.png | 05:21 |
| cryptk | tix, it is rolling out today | 05:22 |
| tix | how come fanatical support is a bunch of retards? | 05:22 |
| cryptk | well, you were speaking with sales, not support | 05:23 |
| cryptk | sales does not run the infrastructure | 05:23 |
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| tix | they should have a basic understanding of it though, no? | 05:23 |
| tix | cryptk: what time is it being rolled out? | 05:24 |
| rpawlik | we need to go deeper | 05:24 |
| rpawlik | http://imgur.com/jxqXw | 05:24 |
| cryptk | if you have a cloud servers account, you could be using it now | 05:25 |
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| mugu | cryptk: is a troll | 05:25 |
| cryptk | it has been soft launched for a while, we are just doing the PR releases etc later today | 05:25 |
| jeremyb | cryptk: does rolling out mean don't have to optin? | 05:25 |
| cryptk | mugu, I am far from a troll | 05:25 |
| mugu | no | 05:25 |
| mugu | not you | 05:26 |
| jeremyb | cryptk: i think mugu was talking about tix | 05:26 |
| cryptk | ahh | 05:26 |
| mugu | gosh i get such a bad rep :{ | 05:26 |
| tix | cryptk: so when is pricing and stuff being announced? | 05:26 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031616 in tempest "test_volumes_list not cleaning up tenant in compute.allow_tenant_isolation mode" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031616 | 05:26 |
| jeremyb | why would pricing be different? | 05:26 |
| tix | pricing for cloud databases | 05:26 |
| tix | etc. | 05:26 |
| jeremyb | oh | 05:26 |
| tix | hasn't been announced | 05:26 |
| tix | same with load balancers | 05:26 |
| mugu | currency in trollandia is very volatile | 05:27 |
| coolj | Magic 8 ball says: not at 12:30am | 05:27 |
| tix | rackspace support says: some time this week | 05:28 |
| tix | lol | 05:28 |
| cryptk | load balancers are already available, and priving is already public for those (has been for months) | 05:28 |
| cryptk | probably close to a year now | 05:29 |
| tix | cryptk: is anything not available now that will be available later today? | 05:29 |
| tix | i was planning to signup later today, should i not wait? | 05:29 |
| tix | i was under the impression new accounts created after openstack fully launces would get stuff that might be slowly rolled out to "old" accounts | 05:29 |
| tix | from before it was rolled out | 05:29 |
| cryptk | tix, it depends on if you are building next gen servers or not | 05:30 |
| tix | i am | 05:30 |
| tix | yeah | 05:30 |
| tix | might as well | 05:30 |
| cryptk | an account is not "first gen" or "next gen", servers are | 05:30 |
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| cryptk | so if you get an account, you can build next gen servers or first gen servers | 05:30 |
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| tix | will i gain access to the new control panel? | 05:31 |
| cryptk | but details won't be released until some point in the future (very very soon though) | 05:31 |
| tix | also, aren't cloud databases API only right now? later today you'll be able to use the dashboard with cloud DBs, right? | 05:31 |
| cryptk | current customers can use either control panel right now... | 05:31 |
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| cryptk | I think you are missing something that I am saying tix | 05:31 |
| rpawlik | or is refusing to listen :P | 05:32 |
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| mugu | trolls have hearing problems | 05:32 |
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| rpawlik | Huh, did you say something? | 05:34 |
| mugu | burned | 05:34 |
| tix | cryptk: it says cloud DBs are API-only right now | 05:36 |
| cryptk | they are | 05:36 |
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| cryptk | not everything is switched on yet | 05:36 |
| tix | so when will that change? later today? | 05:36 |
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| cryptk | that question has been answered several times already... | 05:36 |
| tix | i'm assuming later today you'll be able to interact with cloud DBs via the dashboard | 05:36 |
| tix | it was never answered | 05:37 |
| tix | not about cloud databases | 05:37 |
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| tix | if i signup later today after the "full release" and cloud DBs are still API-only i'm going to rage hardcore, that's all i'm saying | 05:38 |
| cryptk | I am not sure if Cloud DB is part of the release today or not | 05:39 |
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| tix | okay... so how was my question answered "several times" already? | 05:39 |
| tix | anyways... | 05:39 |
| cryptk | well, you are asking several questions all at once | 05:40 |
| cryptk | some were already answered, some were not | 05:40 |
| cryptk | if you throw 5 questions at the same time, and get 1 answer, who knows which question(s) it applies to | 05:40 |
| tix | haha, true | 05:40 |
| jeremyb | cryptk isn't your personal support rep... | 05:40 |
| jeremyb | i don't think at least! | 05:40 |
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| dolphm | tix: i have cloud db's in all three of my accounts -- i thought i mentioned that when you asked earlier | 05:51 |
| dolphm | tix: in the new dashboard | 05:51 |
| tix | oh shit | 05:51 |
| tix | i didn't realize they were in the dashboard though | 05:51 |
| tix | because it specifically says "API-only" here: http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/databases/ | 05:51 |
| dolphm | tix: i'mt not sure if 100% of the api is covered by dashboard functionality, but it's certainly present | 05:51 |
| tix | that's cool, good to hear | 05:52 |
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| tix | you're apparently more familiar with openstack than 98% of rackspace employees, dolphm | 05:52 |
| tix | i can't get a straight answer out of anybody | 05:52 |
| tix | more than half of their support guys don't even know openstack is being rolled out today, haha | 05:52 |
| cryptk | tix, the problem is that you are requesting information about unreleased products while simultaneously insulting the very people that you are asking the questions to | 05:53 |
| dolphm | tix: that's not support you're talking to, unless you're a paying customer (that's front line sales) | 05:53 |
| cryptk | and again, sales != support | 05:53 |
| tix | i know, i'm just anxious for the release (i should just wait) | 05:53 |
| tix | but honestly, are the live support sales guys outsourced to india/pakistan? | 05:54 |
| tix | that's what it felt like | 05:54 |
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| dolphm | tix: the sales people you are talking to are not intimately familiar with openstack -- they're job is to get you into contact with someone who is | 05:54 |
| dolphm | their* | 05:54 |
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| tix | true, yeah. i know. | 05:54 |
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| dolphm | tix: i'm guessing the Cloud Databases product page will be revised with the actual press release during business hours, in the mean time, i don't know that *anything* is changing infrastructure-wise today | 05:57 |
| tix | ya, it sounds like everything is already rolled out fully | 05:57 |
| tix | more or less | 05:57 |
| tix | i wasn't aware of that | 05:57 |
| cryptk | tix, I told you that earlier | 05:58 |
| tix | but still, people who are currently using cloud DBs for free... will they immediately start getting charged? | 05:58 |
| tix | as soon as pricing is announced? | 05:58 |
| dolphm | tix: nope | 05:58 |
| tix | i hope cloud monitoring and stuff is released today, that looks really cool | 05:58 |
| tix | also, i heard you'll be able to backup cloud DBs and cloud servers automatically to cloud files | 05:59 |
| tix | but that's not ready yet i don't believe | 05:59 |
| dolphm | you can already backup cloud servers to cloud files | 05:59 |
| dolphm | i don't know why cloud db instances would be different | 05:59 |
| tix | you can set it up to do automatically once a week? | 06:00 |
| tix | wow, so it sounds like all this shit has been out for some time, just nobody bothered to update the website | 06:00 |
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| cryptk | tix, it hasn't been out of early access | 06:01 |
| dolphm | tix: daily/weekly | 06:01 |
| tix | yeah, but it's been in the dashboard for quite some time | 06:01 |
| tix | and the website still says "API-only" | 06:01 |
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| dolphm | tix: because it hasn't been officially announced :) | 06:02 |
| tix | yep | 06:02 |
| dolphm | tix: if it rolled out today, was announced today, and something went wrong, that would suck :P | 06:02 |
| tix | are openstack servers more efficient than the old ones? | 06:02 |
| tix | or about the same? | 06:02 |
| tix | i know performance varies between different virtualization software | 06:02 |
| dolphm | <-- doesn't know anything about our public cloud infrastructure | 06:03 |
| coolj | it's the same virtualization software (XenServer), just a new infrastructure around/managing it | 06:03 |
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| tix | coolj: oh | 06:05 |
| coolj | http://www.rackspace.com/blog/update-the-future-path-of-rackspaces-public-cloud-products/ | 06:05 |
| tix | so will old cloud servers need to be "converted" at some point" | 06:05 |
| tix | or can they just keep running on openstack? | 06:05 |
| coolj | dunno | 06:05 |
| tix | it sounded like they would need to be taken offline briefly | 06:05 |
| tix | but maybe i heard wrong | 06:05 |
| cryptk | there are still details that aren't nailed down yet | 06:06 |
| cryptk | it is still a very new product | 06:06 |
| dolphm | i imagine legacy servers will continue to run for a few years, until there's a reasonable number remaining that they can be migrated to openstack | 06:07 |
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| tix | dolphm: http://www.zdnet.com/rackspace-launches-openstack-portfolio-7000001843/ | 06:14 |
| dolphm | nice | 06:15 |
| tix | cloud monitoring is still early-access | 06:15 |
| tix | and block storage is "preview" | 06:15 |
| tix | ugh | 06:15 |
| cryptk | products take time to develop, test and iterate | 06:16 |
| tix | yep, i knw | 06:16 |
| tix | know* | 06:16 |
| dolphm | i just heard about monitoring for the first time like 2 weeks ago | 06:16 |
| cryptk | "next gen" is not the product, next gen is the category that lots of new products fall under | 06:16 |
| tix | cryptk: do you expect monitoring to be free? | 06:17 |
| coolj | tix: Nice try, Amazon. | 06:17 |
| tix | dolphm: is "cloud dns" any different than the old dns? | 06:17 |
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| dolphm | what's cloud dns? | 06:17 |
| tix | in other words, is it just a rebranding of the old dns? | 06:18 |
| tix | idk, they removed it from the site lol | 06:18 |
| tix | but you can still find it | 06:18 |
| tix | sec | 06:18 |
| tix | http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/dns/ | 06:18 |
| tix | it used to be listed under "cloud products" but i guess they removed it since it's technically not a standalone product? | 06:18 |
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| dolphm | it's free so it's not a product? | 06:19 |
| tix | i don't know their logic, but yeah that might be it | 06:19 |
| mugu | dns management exposed via api | 06:20 |
| tix | that's the only difference, mugu? the API? | 06:20 |
| tix | it's not "more redundant" than the old dns or anything? | 06:20 |
| mugu | both are geographically diverse systems | 06:21 |
| tix | will "cloud DNS" be API-only after today still? | 06:21 |
| tix | that would suck for a lot of people | 06:21 |
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| dolphm | dns isnt api only | 06:21 |
| mugu | heh its the same data as exposed through the webpanel | 06:21 |
| mugu | clouddns is the api to consume such services. | 06:22 |
| cryptk | DNS has never been API only | 06:22 |
| dolphm | it's in the legacy control panel and the new dashboard | 06:22 |
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| tix | http://gigaom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/rackspacecontrolpanel.jpg | 06:23 |
| tix | looks cool | 06:23 |
| cryptk | it is | 06:24 |
| cryptk | it's very web 2.0, lots of ajax goodness etc | 06:24 |
| dolphm | tix: http://i.imgur.com/8692m.png taken just now | 06:24 |
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| mugu | https://github.com/rackerhacker/rackspace-clouddns-gui | 06:25 |
| tix | i can assume your control panel username is dolphm? time to start brute-forcing | 06:25 |
| tix | ;P | 06:25 |
| coolj | http://www.rackspace.com/knowledge_center/article/introducing-the-next-generation-cloud-control-panel | 06:25 |
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| dolphm | tix: go for it | 06:25 |
| tix | wow, lots of cool stuff | 06:25 |
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| tix | i don't suppose anybody knows about multi-factor auth for the control panel? | 06:26 |
| cryptk | there is lots of cool stuff in there... and several things which were API only before are do-able right through the new control panel | 06:26 |
| tix | that would be a cool security feature | 06:26 |
| dolphm | tix: it's hotly requested, for sure | 06:27 |
| cryptk | like configuring SSL termination on a load balancer for example | 06:27 |
| tix | world of warcraft has it for fucks sake, servers definitely should | 06:27 |
| tix | since the control panel is essentially a "backdoor" to all your servers | 06:27 |
| cryptk | tix, http://feedback.rackspacecloud.com | 06:27 |
| cryptk | if it has already been requested, you can vote on it | 06:27 |
| coolj | /topic Rackspace product timelines, pricing, and product features | 06:27 |
| dolphm | tix: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/multi-factor-authn | 06:28 |
| tix | not gonna lie, that's pretty damn necessary | 06:28 |
| tix | WoW nerds demand that shit so they don't have their "epic mount" stolen | 06:28 |
| tix | a company with a bunch of mission-critical servers on openstack definitely could use that | 06:29 |
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| cryptk | tix, we try and keep this channel family friendly, we would appreciate if you do the same | 06:30 |
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| tix | no problem | 06:30 |
| tix | i saw somebody with a + before their name dropping F bombs a couple days ago, so i thought it was okay | 06:30 |
| tix | dolphm: does the new CP let you pick which datacenter to deploy an instrance in? | 06:32 |
| tix | please god tell me you can do that now | 06:32 |
| dolphm | tix: yes! thank god | 06:32 |
| tix | haha | 06:32 |
| tix | about time | 06:32 |
| dolphm | tix: i used to have to call sales/support and have them change my preferred region | 06:32 |
| tix | yep, that was one of the main reasons i left rackspace some ~2 years ago | 06:33 |
| tix | it was ridiculous | 06:33 |
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| dolphm | free breakfast in < 6.5 hrs -- time to sleep | 06:36 |
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| tix | tualatrix: you're not welcome here. | 06:40 |
| tix | go back to linode. | 06:40 |
| cryptk | tix... | 06:41 |
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| kviiri | When I try to run virtual machines in my Essex setup with Quantum, I get the following error | 07:12 |
| kviiri | ERROR: NetworkNotFound: Network 8c842e6b-808c-4792-87bb-739c5035a046 could not be found. (HTTP 400) | 07:12 |
| kviiri | I can't see why I should get that because the network does exist and shows up in nova-manage network list | 07:13 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, i've a vm not getting ip, these are the dhcp request and offer http://pastie.org/4369949 but it's not working.. any idea? | 07:18 |
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| alex88 | maybe it's that "bad udp cksum"? | 07:18 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031639 in tempest "admin_client.py: Assign and Remove role to user points to a different URI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031639 | 07:31 |
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| alex88 | solved, with kernel newer then 3.2 it doesn't work | 07:54 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031643 in devstack "failed to deploy devstack due ot unauthorized error on quantum net-create" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031643 | 07:56 |
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| trygvis | vachon: it turns out that that rabbitmq was blocking all queues because of too little disk space on the box | 08:29 |
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| trygvis | so now the instances are at least in "spawning" | 08:29 |
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| norris900 | Can anyone advise me about creating redundancy to protect against node failure | 08:46 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | hello | 09:00 |
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| zynzel | norris900: which node failure? | 09:16 |
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| alex88 | i'm doing nova-manage floating list and i get "FixedIpNotFound: No fixed IP associated with id 3." seems a db error isn't it? | 09:25 |
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| melmoth | alex88 it does indeed. I experienced a couple of those after removing a fixed network.. Never with a floating one though. | 09:31 |
| norris900 | sorry for the delay in my response zynzel , i'm most concerned about my control node but im equally curious about nova compute nodes and how for example a power supply failure in the machine effects the instances. | 09:31 |
| melmoth | may be it s because i never try to ...delete a floating one :) | 09:31 |
| alex88 | melmoth, problem is that i have no idea why it removed it :) need to fix some things now :) | 09:32 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | hi melmoth | 09:39 |
| melmoth | hola ! | 09:39 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | como esta amigo? | 09:39 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | :) | 09:39 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | melmoth:do you use multi-host networking or single host networking? | 09:40 |
| melmoth | i used to use multi host. and am just switching to single host networking. | 09:41 |
| melmoth | (there s some problem running juju in multi host) | 09:41 |
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| alex88 | melmoth, if so there are some also running corosync and gluster :) | 09:42 |
| melmoth | havent try any of those. | 09:42 |
| alex88 | just saying, it breaks up lot of things, even when setting another interface for bridging | 09:43 |
| alex88 | as flat_interface | 09:43 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | melmoth can I see your nova compute config file ? please .... :) | 09:43 |
| melmoth | hold on | 09:43 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | aight | 09:44 |
| melmoth | http://pastebin.com/qQJFcZ0Q | 09:44 |
| melmoth | that s the last one i used (single host mode) | 09:45 |
| melmoth | the only difference between the 2 mode as far as this far is concerned is the addition of --metadata_host and --routing_source_ip | 09:45 |
| melmoth | grumble, i meant, as far as this file is concerned. | 09:46 |
| kviiri | I should take the time to comment my file as well | 09:46 |
| trygvis | melmoth: I figured out my issues from yesterday, rabbitmq was blocking all connections | 09:46 |
| melmoth | note for later: when things get hanged, look at the rabbit. | 09:46 |
| melmoth | rabbitmq is one of those thing that feels like a black box to me | 09:47 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | thanks man | 09:47 |
| trygvis | it was easy to figure out once I added the web ui, it has a big red warning on each connection | 09:47 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | melmoth actually, due to my problem with VMs on the compute not getting IPs, I wanna switch to multi-host | 09:49 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | so they can get IP from their hosts | 09:50 |
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| zynzel | norris900: control node can work in HA setup (mysql master master, rabbit cluster, each nova component on every control node) | 09:50 |
| koolhead11 | melmoth: looks nice :) | 09:50 |
| zynzel | for compute note HA you have multi_host for network HA | 09:50 |
| zynzel | but mechanism for 'spawn instance on other node after failure' doesnt exists | 09:50 |
| koolhead11 | zynzel: hi | 09:51 |
| zynzel | hi | 09:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031688 in nova "Text formatting for nova volume-delete broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031688 | 09:51 |
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| alex88 | melmoth, my fault, seems a problem in mysql replication | 09:57 |
| melmoth | havent touched this neither | 09:57 |
| * melmoth is a n00b :) | 09:57 | |
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| trygvis | what does the --multi_host flag actually do? | 10:02 |
| melmoth | d4V1dP3n74, have you seen the "Virtual machines are not getting ip" thread on the mailing list ? | 10:02 |
| melmoth | trygvis, it change a setting in the database (fixed network, multi_host) . | 10:03 |
| melmoth | then i dont know how nova is using this flag to change its beahviour | 10:03 |
| melmoth | but basically, its either you only have 1 nova-network for all compute nodes | 10:03 |
| EmilienM | trygvis: http://goo.gl/oWjO6 | 10:03 |
| melmoth | or, each compute nodes runs its own nova-network | 10:03 |
| alex88 | trygvis, networks created with nova-manage will have that value as default | 10:03 |
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| trygvis | thanks! | 10:08 |
| alex88 | it's used to eliminate the single point of failure and use each host as the gateway for the vm running on that host | 10:10 |
| trygvis | that page also had a good description of all those network/dhcp flags, is nice | 10:11 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | melmoth nope | 10:12 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | no subscribed | 10:12 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | can you send me a link please? | 10:13 |
| melmoth | hold on | 10:13 |
| melmoth | https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg15303.html | 10:14 |
| melmoth | there s also a post i dont see on the web page yet, mentionning some issue with a kernel update i did not uderstand | 10:14 |
| melmoth | ah found it https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg15309.html | 10:15 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | cool | 10:15 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | man you rock BIG TIME | 10:15 |
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| trygvis | if I want an all-in-one setup (like here: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/libvirt-flat-networking.html), is this the appropriate nova.conf? http://paste.openstack.org/show/19889/, mainly the three last lines | 10:26 |
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| melmoth | trygvis, i havent used a "all in one" setup, but i do not have to define the bridge myself in /etc/network/interfaces | 10:33 |
| melmoth | but it works if i do. | 10:33 |
| melmoth | (and when i did, i was not using any of maxwait,stp or fd. I dont even know what they do :) ) | 10:34 |
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| trygvis | yeah, it is a bit strange with the bridging | 10:37 |
| koolhead11 | melmoth: nova.conf config brings up the br100 | 10:42 |
| koolhead11 | you just need to tell it which inteface it should plug itself to | 10:43 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031713 in openstack-common "rpc review: create_consumer() has bogus conf argument in base class" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031713 | 10:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031709 in openstack-common "rpc review: cast_to_server() and fanout_cast_to_server() are unused" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031709 | 10:56 |
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| trygvis | does the "nova network" command work with floating networks only? | 11:01 |
| trygvis | hm, why do I have to both create networks/IPs and stuff with in nova.conf *and* add them to the database? | 11:04 |
| trygvis | seems redundant and error prone | 11:04 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031716 in quantum "test_db_plugin does not test other plugins" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031716 | 11:11 |
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| trygvis | hey, cool. my VM is 'running' | 11:21 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031719 in openstack-common "rpc review: allowed_rpc_exception_modules configuration option" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031719 | 11:22 |
| trygvis | I can't ping it, and the virsh iface-list shows that the interface doesn't have a MAC. odd | 11:22 |
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| koolhead11 | trygvis: hope your following some doc | 11:24 |
| melmoth | trygvis, you need to play with security group to be able to ping it (at least on the floating ip) | 11:24 |
| trygvis | I've been using the debian+puppet setup | 11:25 |
| trygvis | and reading lots of doc :) | 11:25 |
| trygvis | melmoth: ok. should I be worried that the iface has a mac of 00:00:00:00:00:00? | 11:25 |
| melmoth | inside the vm ? I do not know really :) | 11:25 |
| trygvis | no, on the host | 11:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031725 in openstack-common "rpc review: control_exchange configuration option" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031725 | 11:26 |
| melmoth | i do not know... my cloud is currenlty.. backuping so all my nodes are down i cannot even check | 11:26 |
| trygvis | k | 11:26 |
| trygvis | wait, I'm getting some console output through the web ui | 11:27 |
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| trygvis | it actually started, but is checking the wrong IP: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19892/ | 11:29 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | on a multi host enviroment each node is responsible for running it's own DHCP(dnsmasq) server right? | 11:29 |
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| melmoth | dont know. But if it s nova-network that handle dnsmask , then yes. | 11:30 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031728 in openstack-common "rpc review: implementation modules should be marked internal" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031728 | 11:31 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | this thing is getting me crazy | 11:31 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | if I have bridge interface that means | 11:32 |
| melmoth | d4V1dP3n74, one guy in the thread i mentionned was mentionning some tcpdump recording. | 11:32 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | the computers | 11:32 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | did the same | 11:32 |
| ivoks | d4V1dP3n74: where are you stuck? | 11:32 |
| melmoth | i have no idea _where_ to tcpdumps tuff, but,i guess -i any on the compute node | 11:32 |
| melmoth | and see what s happening ? | 11:32 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | the host sends request | 11:32 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | but these requests don't get anywhere | 11:33 |
| ivoks | request for...? | 11:33 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | DHCP | 11:33 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I have 2 nodes | 11:33 |
| ivoks | i had the same problem | 11:33 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | controller and compute | 11:33 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks and.... | 11:33 |
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| ivoks | i've resolved it by putting nova-compute and nova-api on compute nodes | 11:33 |
| rosco_ | Hi guys, how can you disable the traceback calls when you do a keystone auth request. It now barfs up a lot of python info when something goes wrong. I already disabled debugging and verbose in the keystone.conf | 11:34 |
| ivoks | basically, each compute node does its own networking | 11:34 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ok | 11:34 |
| ivoks | and that works | 11:34 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | can I see your config file please | 11:34 |
| ivoks | only problem i have right now are DNS servers | 11:34 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | cuz I did the same | 11:34 |
| ivoks | there's a trick that i didn't know | 11:34 |
| ivoks | one has to setup nova.conf for this setup *before* network is created | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I installed nova-api nova-network and nova-compute on compute node | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | hehe | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ok | 11:35 |
| ivoks | you need to add this to nova.conf: | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | meaning should I manually delete | 11:35 |
| ivoks | multi_host=True | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | yep did it | 11:35 |
| ivoks | enabled_apis=ec2,osapi_compute,osapi_volume,metadata | 11:35 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | on controller and compute | 11:35 |
| ivoks | right, then delete the network and create it again | 11:36 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | aight | 11:36 |
| ivoks | cause of this line: | 11:36 |
| ivoks | 'The multi_host option must be in place for network creation and nova-network must be run on every compute host.' | 11:36 |
| ivoks | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html | 11:36 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | enabled_apis=ec2,osapi_compute,osapi_volume,metadata( on both controller and compute)? | 11:37 |
| ivoks | yes | 11:37 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | aight | 11:37 |
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| * d4V1dP3n74 tries it | 11:38 | |
| trygvis | odd, the image seems to have gotten an IP successfullly but it's not able to ping anything | 11:38 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks do you know a command to delete the network I create?? | 11:38 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | or shall I delete it manually | 11:38 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | in the mysql database?? | 11:38 |
| ivoks | nova-manage network delete $cidr (iirc) | 11:38 |
| ivoks | where $cidr is something like 10.10.10.0/24 | 11:39 |
| ivoks | or whatever you use | 11:39 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | iirc? | 11:39 |
| ivoks | if i recall correctly | 11:39 |
| ivoks | i i r c | 11:39 |
| notze | LOL | 11:39 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | aight :) | 11:41 |
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| ivoks | the only issue that remains after this is that there's no single DNS that's aware of all instances | 11:44 |
| melmoth | ivoks, multi mode ? | 11:45 |
| ivoks | melmoth: yes | 11:45 |
| ivoks | multi node | 11:45 |
| melmoth | that s _exactly_ why i swicthed back to single mode | 11:45 |
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| melmoth | hold on | 11:45 |
| ivoks | problem is that i'm either too stupid for single mode or docs are just broken | 11:45 |
| melmoth | https://lists.launchpad.net/openstack/msg12605.html | 11:45 |
| melmoth | look for " | 11:46 |
| melmoth | This is expected in multihost mode." | 11:46 |
| melmoth | and cry :) | 11:46 |
| melmoth | ivoks, i just succeeded in switching from one mode to the other one. | 11:46 |
| ivoks | i get that, it's expected | 11:46 |
| melmoth | well, then the only solution seems to be either single host, or external dns | 11:47 |
| ivoks | do you have single interface for both private and public communication? | 11:47 |
| melmoth | nope 2 nic on compute nodes | 11:47 |
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| ivoks | yes, external DNS is something i'll probably end up setting up | 11:47 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks: I have single interface | 11:47 |
| ivoks | d4V1dP3n74: yes, and you feel the same pain as i do :) | 11:47 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | loool | 11:48 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | yeah it is more painful | 11:48 |
| melmoth | i did not tested with 1 nic, but if its easier with two, and only had one.. i would juste create an alias as a second nic.. and give it a try. no ? | 11:48 |
| ivoks | nah... i like the idea of multi node; no SPOF for networking | 11:49 |
| ivoks | i'll set up shared DNS and that's it | 11:49 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | melmoth thats what I do | 11:49 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | but you end up bridging on the same interface | 11:49 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | :P | 11:50 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks just edited the nova.conf fil | 11:51 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | file* | 11:51 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | shall I restart the services | 11:51 |
| ivoks | yes | 11:51 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | before deleting the networks? | 11:51 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | aight | 11:51 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | it is always a panic moment when I type *nova-manage service list* | 11:52 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | lol | 11:52 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I hate those XXX | 11:53 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031737 in nova "TooManyInstances msg is misleading if ram or cores over-quota " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031737 | 12:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031466 in keystone "setting passwords via command line arguments is insecure (dup-of: 938315)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031466 | 12:06 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks is alive? | 12:07 |
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| ivoks | d4V1dP3n74: yes | 12:08 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks trying to delete the network, but I get a network still in use error message | 12:10 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I delete all instances aswell | 12:10 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | and when I check the database | 12:10 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | the all have the deleted instance set to 1 | 12:10 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | deleted bit* | 12:11 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | aany idea? | 12:11 |
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| ivoks | i don't check database, so i'm not sure in what state they should be | 12:12 |
| melmoth | usually, first thing i do when before playing wih nova-manage, is stopping mysql and backuping /var/lib/mysql .... | 12:13 |
| melmoth | just in case (tm) | 12:13 |
| melmoth | wich reminds me that i still not having try out if backuping things with mysql_dump and reinjecting them back with mysql command works. | 12:13 |
| melmoth | last time i try, it was an epic failure. | 12:13 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | lol | 12:13 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | you can use phpmyadmin | 12:14 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | makes like easier | 12:14 |
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| melmoth | i dont think it would have solve the problem. usually i avoid this tool as mucj as possible | 12:14 |
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| melmoth | last time i try (it must have been like... more than 5 years ago though), problem was "how can you use this tool to backup stuff that will take more time than the maximum time allowed for a php script to run ?" | 12:15 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | :) | 12:15 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I haven't done mysql for a while | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | but I think | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | backing up is just | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | retrieving | 12:16 |
| ivoks | imho, there shouldn't be any instance in instances table | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | a mysql script | 12:16 |
| melmoth | it should juste be a mysql_dump > afile.sql, and then mysql < afile.sql | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks: yep | 12:16 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | yep thats what I meant melmoth :) | 12:17 |
| melmoth | but wen i try, the reinjection was nto working because of some god knows what integrity problem of some sort | 12:17 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | but do you delete de current database?? | 12:17 |
| melmoth | wich led me to just do it the lazy way: /var/lib/mysql when the db is stopped | 12:17 |
| ivoks | ? | 12:17 |
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| melmoth | i try to reinject things in a vanilla mysql install, the dump had all the create database and create table and stuff | 12:18 |
| kviiri | Hi, does anyone know where I can find the code that sends VM creation messages from control node to compute nodes? | 12:18 |
| trygvis | if I'm getting "NoMoreFixedIps: Zero fixed ips available.", but "nova-manage fixed list" shows a many available IPs, what's wrong then? | 12:18 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I used to delete the database forst in my script | 12:18 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | I worked perfect for me | 12:18 |
| melmoth | hmm, may be i should give it another try now that some monthes have passed, it may have been fixed :) | 12:19 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | all the instances are delete | 12:27 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | but I still get the message | 12:27 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | network sill in use | 12:27 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | grrrrrrrr | 12:27 |
| ivoks | maybe it's in use by the project? | 12:27 |
| ivoks | nova-manage network modify $cidr --disassociate-project | 12:28 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | thanks | 12:28 |
| * d4V1dP3n74 tries it | 12:29 | |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | TRACE nova ValueError: Network must be disassociated from project openstackDemo before delete | 12:31 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | after typing | 12:31 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | nova-manage network modify 192.168.110.32/27 --disassociate-project openstackDemo | 12:31 |
| ivoks | without openstackDemo | 12:31 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | comes back to network still in use | 12:32 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | http://pastebin.com/gjv2bw9g | 12:34 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | thats nova-manage network list | 12:34 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | showing it associated with no project | 12:34 |
| ivoks | terminate instances | 12:35 |
| ivoks | kill kvm processes | 12:35 |
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| ivoks | then terminate again | 12:35 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | aight ivoks, doing it | 12:41 |
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| kviiri | Any sourcediver wizards present? I could use a hand. | 12:42 |
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| kviiri | Our VMs still start without network interfaces and we haven't still figured out what's causing it. It turns out that the requested_interfaces sent to the compute node are None. I'd like to know where this value is set on the controller node | 12:44 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | ivoks : greping kvm from pas | 12:45 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | 1186 2 0 Jul31 ? 00:00:00 [kvm-irqfd-clean] | 12:45 |
| trygvis | kviiri: have you tried just grep'ing through the source? | 12:45 |
| kviiri | trygvis: The problem is I don't know what to grep for :( | 12:45 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031756 in nova "module' object has no attribute 'instance_by'" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031756 | 12:45 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | any idea about the '?' | 12:46 |
| trygvis | "requested_interfaces"? | 12:46 |
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| kviiri | Sorry, it was "requested_networks" .. my bad | 12:47 |
| kviiri | But it produces a lot of hits | 12:47 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I'll simply restart my servers | 12:47 |
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| kviiri | Hum, I think I stumbled upon a promising lead already, such is the power of IRC | 12:48 |
| trygvis | IRC <3 | 12:48 |
| trygvis | I need to figure out why nova-network is claiming that there are no more IPs available | 12:49 |
| kviiri | I need to figure out why nova-network/quantum causes ERROR: NetworkNotFound: Network 8c842e6b-808c-4792-87bb-739c5035a046 could not be found. (HTTP 400) | 12:49 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | even restarting the servers doesn't help | 12:58 |
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| alex88 | mmhh, deleting a vm with a failover associated doesn't disassociate the ip… and it cannot be dissociated to the project | 13:04 |
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| Disconnect | does openstack have any native support for iscsi storage systems? | 13:11 |
| Disconnect | I found a config talking about lefthand (yay) but couldn't find any supporting docs. | 13:11 |
| vachon | Disconnect: not really | 13:11 |
| vachon | EQL drivers are just out of beta | 13:11 |
| vachon | well not even | 13:11 |
| vachon | just opensourced | 13:11 |
| Disconnect | here it is. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.volume.san.html | 13:12 |
| vachon | best bet would be: http://wiki.openstack.org/xenapi-sm-volume-driver | 13:12 |
| vachon | oh well you are lucky | 13:12 |
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| Disconnect | vachon: have you found any more info on that? the help doesn't give expected connection params, available types, etc. | 13:17 |
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| vachon | not really, im working on getting EQL into essex now by hand | 13:18 |
| Disconnect | worst case I can just manage it outside of openstack but.. | 13:19 |
| vachon | not really | 13:19 |
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| vachon | nova-volume on create tries to create the volume | 13:19 |
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| vachon | so the only way that works is iscsi'ing an iscsi | 13:19 |
| vachon | very high latency | 13:19 |
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| Disconnect | ugh | 13:23 |
| vachon | actually | 13:23 |
| Disconnect | I thought nova-volume could use block backends. | 13:23 |
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| vachon | i see some pretty decent inline docs | 13:23 |
| melmoth | hmm ? | 13:24 |
| BaldEagle | Hi, I met a problem when using "live-migration", the log always says that "InvalidUUID" is passed to _instance_update() of db/sqlalchemy/api.py. Does anyone can help? | 13:24 |
| vachon | Disconnect: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/volume/san.py | 13:24 |
| melmoth | here i created manually a nova-volumes vg on the node running nova-volume, and it "just worked" | 13:25 |
| vachon | line 417 | 13:25 |
| melmoth | at least, last time i try | 13:25 |
| Disconnect | vachon: awesome thanks | 13:25 |
| vachon | melmoth: you are running it on a node, not on a SAN | 13:25 |
| melmoth | yep | 13:25 |
| vachon | thats where we differ | 13:25 |
| vachon | we are going for High avail, high perf | 13:25 |
| vachon | im working on getting nova volume on a 10GigE SAN | 13:26 |
| ServerTechLaptop | New to OpenStack, but could you help me with a configuration involving load balanced high availability VMs? Would OpenStack (through Atomia) be able to provision VMs on two different hypervisors and set it up using rsync? Server setup includes Two hypervisors per clusters backed by an active/passive load balancer configuration. | 13:26 |
| Disconnect | vachon: I found that in the api docs too but I can't figure out how to reach into that to set it up | 13:26 |
| vachon | i think it goes into your nova.conf | 13:27 |
| vachon | ServerTechLaptop: no, openstack is designed for failure | 13:27 |
| vachon | think of it like EC2 | 13:27 |
| vachon | expect bad things, architect for it | 13:27 |
| vachon | it is not vmware or XenServer Pro | 13:28 |
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| ServerTechLaptop | vachon, not what I expected. | 13:28 |
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| vachon | ServerTechLaptop: its the reality, your requirements don't seem to fit OS. I would look to VMWare with HA/FT | 13:30 |
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| ServerTechLaptop | vachon, never checked out vmware licencing. Not happy with paying that for 100 servers. | 13:31 |
| vachon | very very expensive | 13:31 |
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| vachon | OS will work, you just have to expect the unexpected, if its a critical server, you can run it off of nova-volume for your root partition | 13:32 |
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| vachon | but you will have to restart the VM if the underlying host has a problem | 13:32 |
| vachon | or use live migration if you have it setup | 13:32 |
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| ServerTechLaptop | OpenStack supports live migration? | 13:33 |
| vachon | yes, with NFS trickery | 13:34 |
| vachon | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/live-migration-usage.html | 13:34 |
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| Disconnect | iirc there is a setup for using libvirt+kvm(or xen) and live migration (shared storage, etc) to do best-effort HA. (ie a vm might go down but it can be automatically brought up elsewhere) | 13:35 |
| zynzel | vachon: you also can have live migration without shared nfs. | 13:35 |
| vachon | zynzel: ? | 13:35 |
| vachon | since when | 13:35 |
| zynzel | vachon: since 'always' :) | 13:35 |
| vachon | do tell | 13:35 |
| zynzel | before stable essex | 13:35 |
| zynzel | e3 | 13:35 |
| zynzel | we use e3 and we have working live migration without nfs | 13:36 |
| vachon | whats the catch? | 13:36 |
| vachon | volume backed only? | 13:36 |
| zynzel | no catch, a few changes in source code and voila! | 13:36 |
| zynzel | vachon: no, normal instances with local storage | 13:36 |
| vachon | very interesting. care to talk about it tomorrow? (not in for long today) | 13:37 |
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| ServerTechLaptop | VMware for a 100 servers is going to cost alot. | 13:39 |
| ServerTechLaptop | ALOT. | 13:39 |
| zynzel | vachon: tomorrow i have workshops (openstack), but if you can catch me, feel free to ask | 13:39 |
| vachon | ok | 13:39 |
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| trygvis | I'm getting "NetworkNotFound: Network 1 could not be found.". what does that '1' refer to? | 13:41 |
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| zynzel | trygvis: network id | 13:42 |
| melmoth | 1 is an id in the db table | 13:42 |
| trygvis | right, ok. I deleted that network | 13:42 |
| melmoth | trygvis, did you destroy a fixed netwrok recently ? | 13:42 |
| kviiri | I have the same error except with the uuid of the network | 13:42 |
| trygvis | melmoth: I did | 13:42 |
| melmoth | there s a bug about it. you need to remove ip in the fixed table manually | 13:43 |
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| trygvis | so if I delete the network and delete from fixed_ips I should be fine? | 13:44 |
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| melmoth | i hope so | 13:44 |
| SkyMan | hi stackers | 13:45 |
| SkyMan | I want to ask something please | 13:45 |
| plu | just go ahead and ask :) | 13:45 |
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| trygvis | actually, I already deleted the fixed_ips. I have a new net and list of addresses with id=3 | 13:46 |
| SkyMan | is there a way to make floating IPs just like Amazon's floationg addresses ? | 13:46 |
| trygvis | do I need to restart something too? | 13:46 |
| melmoth | hmmm, then i have no idea what is still making refences to network id 1 | 13:46 |
| SkyMan | i mean amazon gives words to publicly access a VM while OS gives an IPv4 address | 13:46 |
| SkyMan | Thanks :) | 13:47 |
| zynzel | SkyMan: you mean dns? | 13:47 |
| SkyMan | zynzel: yea why not ! | 13:47 |
| zynzel | SkyMan: you can configure 3rd part software to do what you need. | 13:47 |
| zynzel | for example powerdns | 13:47 |
| zynzel | we configure powerdns for auto create dns entry for floating ip after assign | 13:48 |
| SkyMan | thanks but i know about that, i want to know if OS can do that on its own | 13:48 |
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| melmoth | trygvis, just to be sure, i would check "select * from fixed_ips where network_id=1" in the nova db | 13:48 |
| zynzel | SkyMan: as i know no, but integration is easy | 13:48 |
| trygvis | zynzel: how do you get informed when an ip is allocated? | 13:48 |
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| zynzel | trygvis: for what? ;) | 13:48 |
| zynzel | you can simply create view for powerdns which select this info from floating_ips table :) | 13:49 |
| trygvis | for putting info about it in dns | 13:49 |
| SkyMan | zynzel: OK, good idea ! thanks :) | 13:50 |
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| Disconnect | ok this is annoying. how do I get an actual error out of "dictionary update sequence element #0 has length 1; 2 is required" ..? | 13:57 |
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| trygvis | I was hoping there was a way to listen to the MQ. but ok | 13:57 |
| trygvis | Disconnect: the error messages from the cli commands are often bad. try --help | 13:58 |
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| trygvis | perhaps you did "--foo value" instead of "--foo=value" | 13:58 |
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| Disconnect | its from nova-manage sm backend_add .. afaict it takes "name type parameters" but I'm havnig trouble with params. it doesn't appear to be name type ip initiator | 14:00 |
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| Disconnect | help prints "Usage: nova-manage sm backend_add <args> [options]" where options include -h. :( | 14:01 |
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| trygvis | hmm, new error "NetworkHostNotSet: Host is not set to the network (3)" (3 is the new network I created) | 14:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031788 in nova "Some RPC calls are missing arguments (diagnostics, consoles, etc.)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031788 | 14:06 |
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| swinchen | I have a setup similar to page 7 of this document: http://dodeeric.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/PDF/Install-Your-Own-OpenStack-Cloud-Essex-Edition.pdf any idea why it says node1 is NOT a compute node? | 14:09 |
| vachon | Disconnect: It looks like SolidFire has a good nova.conf example you could adapt | 14:10 |
| vachon | http://wiki.openstack.org/SolidFireVolumeDriver | 14:10 |
| Disconnect | neat thanks :) | 14:10 |
| vachon | i was tying to find the same thing now that i patched my san.py | 14:11 |
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| Disconnect | cool looks like its trying :) | 14:17 |
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| d4V1dP3n74 | anybody knows how to delete a network from openstack | 14:24 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | I've tried every command possible | 14:24 |
| d4V1dP3n74 | nothing | 14:24 |
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| swinchen | what should the format of iscsi_ip_prefix be? | 14:27 |
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| swinchen | huh... I don't even see that option in the documentation :/ | 14:28 |
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| Diopter | swinchen: The "Documentation", eh? Did you grep /usr/share/pyshared/nova for it? Pretty sure those docs have it :P | 14:29 |
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| swinchen | virt/xenapi/volume_utils.py: if FLAGS.iscsi_ip_prefix in target and volume_name in target: | 14:31 |
| swinchen | that is all I get | 14:31 |
| swinchen | so it is a xenapi thing? Arg! This tutorial is using kvm. wtf | 14:31 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031794 in glance "Allow setting of TCP_KEEPIDLE value" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031794 | 14:31 |
| Diopter | Neat. Maybe it's not in the nova subdir | 14:31 |
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| swinchen | I just did the same grep on all of /usr/share | 14:33 |
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| Diopter | Fun. | 14:33 |
| Diopter | Sounds like a xen thing :P | 14:33 |
| * swinchen takes a deep calming breath | 14:33 | |
| Diopter | Maybe search for iscsi in general? Might be a slightly different flag? Not sure. | 14:34 |
| swinchen | It is really odd. Every install guide, tutorial, etc. for Essex either has incorrect, or deprecated config options. | 14:35 |
| Diopter | Have you.. checked out the official docs? :P | 14:35 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031796 in glance "default perms on cached files include w:r" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031796 | 14:35 |
| swinchen | Diopter: yes | 14:36 |
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| Disconnect | damn. now if only i could find a way to get this stupid thing to accept ssh keys (or, alternately, get openstack to claim keyboard interactive) | 14:38 |
| Disconnect | 2012-08-01 10:26:04 TRACE nova.rpc.amqp BadAuthenticationType: Bad authentication type (allowed_types=['publickey', 'keyboard-interactive']) | 14:38 |
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| alexn6 | Hi! Swift question - I load object in format abcd/123 with "/" and container "abcd" also was created. Now I get internal server errror when trying to delete it. And I delete objects in the same way that created before. How can I delete container? | 14:41 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031799 in nova "cannot delete network " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031799 | 14:41 |
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| alex88 | hey guys, what's the nova dns-* commands fo? | 14:52 |
| alex88 | *for? | 14:53 |
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| Disconnect | anyone feel like looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1031807 ? not sure the best way to work around keyboard-interactive (or how much a hack is going to affect the rest of it. in theory not much since its all self contained, but,..) | 14:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031807 in nova "nova.volume.san.HpSanISCSIDriver can't ssh to HP/Lefthand Units" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031807 | 15:00 |
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| Disconnect | networking question. in flat or flat+dhcp, the nodes can be provided with "public" addresses, correct? our compute nodes are running bonded gig-e to the "outside" (and we're using the SAN interfaces for the node-to-node communication) and I don't want to end up in a configuration where all the nodes route traffic to a master or anything weird like that | 15:17 |
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| Disconnect | (ie what eucalyptus did last time I tried it. ugh.) | 15:17 |
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| Disconnect | oh. i see it, 2 slides down. damn. | 15:18 |
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| Disconnect | hmm. is there a network setup that works in a more performant/sane mode? where each instance is just bridged (or bridged+natted) to the host's public-facing interface? | 15:20 |
| Diopter | Disconnect: FlatDHCP with multi_host=true | 15:22 |
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| Disconnect | nice :) | 15:31 |
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| Disconnect | Diopter: http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html looks perfect. thanks! | 15:33 |
| Diopter | Disconnect: Correct! | 15:34 |
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| alex88 | what are the nova dns-* commands for? | 15:53 |
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| Disconnect | any way to start an instance that doesn't support virtio? | 16:24 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031837 in nova "Compute API extension os-hypervisors appears in code but doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031837 | 16:31 |
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| alexn6 | start outside cloud and install virtio modules | 16:31 |
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| crazed | hm | 16:33 |
| alexn6 | or bad way - manually modify vmABC.xml (in nova/instanses/instanceNN/), make virsh destroy that domain and manually redefine. Bad because next nova_instance action will redefine xml from its inner db | 16:34 |
| crazed | OS_PASSWORD gets exported, which contains my password | 16:34 |
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| crazed | seems sketchy / security issue, esspecially with ldap integration | 16:34 |
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| crazed | is that actually nececssary to export | 16:34 |
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| alexn6 | what may be not good in openstack for now - one cannot define or have its own templates catalog. and to do that is smth like simply to add one more field to flavour/instance_type | 16:37 |
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| Sweetshark | https://github.com/openstack-ci/gerritbot <- so ... there is no license on that, it would be great if somebody would tag one on it, so it can be grapped without fear of your guys sueing one to death ;) | 16:41 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031842 in glance "^c during image downloads leaves incomplete files in cache" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031842 | 16:41 |
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| Disconnect | alexn6: unfortunately not feasible. trying to get openfiler or nas4free going. might be able to do it w/ nas4free but openfiler is just a disaster. | 16:45 |
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| alexn6 | Disconnect, than second "bad" variant | 16:47 |
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| alexn6 | virtio net is the best throughput for now. other slowly. mb e1000 emulation is comparable | 16:50 |
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| Disconnect | yah I'm not worried about net. its disk :/ net I can try to handle once the thing boots | 16:54 |
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| alexn6 | Disconnect, and do you plan to organise NAS by attaching volumes to every vm? | 16:54 |
| Disconnect | no. I just need to get this legacy thing moved off the other server so I can expand the openstack cluster. in the longest run it'll just be another instance, offering services to public clients | 16:55 |
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| Disconnect | I'm trying to avoid having to just build an ubuntu vm and fileserver from scratch to match what is already there. we'll be doing that soon anyway (long story, short ver is we just lost 15T of data that has to be restored and we're taking the opportunity to upgrade it from a terrible hacked-up rhel/centos cluster mess) | 16:56 |
| alexn6 | but how many disks? or how do you plan to attache them? | 16:56 |
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| Disconnect | existing external iscsi cluster | 16:57 |
| Disconnect | not managed by nova at all | 16:57 |
| alexn6 | When you have your instance running in your /var/lib/nova/instances/instance-NN/libvirt.xml change <target dev='vda' bus='virtio'/> to smth else (ide,scsi,...). Then redefine in libvirt | 16:58 |
| alexn6 | then you still do many things by hand or scripts :) | 16:58 |
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| Disconnect | I can live with that :) | 16:59 |
| Disconnect | thanks :) | 16:59 |
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| alexn6 | you also can modify python libs that create that libvirt.xml based on say flavor suffix - for example m1.tiny_ide | 17:00 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031846 in nova "unicode in an instance name breaks filtering by name" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031846 | 17:01 |
| alexn6 | for all nova-computes. I did that, when I need more then 512 ram but only vm.img disk without any extensions | 17:01 |
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| alexn6 | somewhere here (for kvm/libvirt) /usr/share/pyshared/nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py Can`t say where exactly | 17:12 |
| crazed | has anyone come up with a good dns solution? i see nova-dns, but looks like it hasn't been updated in 5 months | 17:13 |
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| ev0ldave | there is a fork of nova-dns to include internal/external addressing | 17:14 |
| ev0ldave | i forked it to add feature of changing node name will also update dns but not quite finished | 17:15 |
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| crazed | ev0ldave: link? | 17:18 |
| ev0ldave | pulling it up, btw, the one from giddynamics does not work with essex | 17:20 |
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| crazed | thanks, yeah i'm on essex | 17:20 |
| ev0ldave | https://github.com/vanwinkeljan/nova-dns | 17:20 |
| ev0ldave | that works with essex. it also adds a subdomain for internal and external IPs | 17:21 |
| ev0ldave | so host.external.example.com and host.internal.example.com | 17:21 |
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| ev0ldave | and a flag for inserting the project name: host.external.project.example.com | 17:21 |
| ev0ldave | it is written to build and install on RPM based systems, but you can pick through the spec file to build and install by hand | 17:22 |
| ev0ldave | if on debian | 17:22 |
| sc68cal | ev0ldave: Why not use the instance_dns_manager config knob, and inherit from nova.network.dns_driver.DNSDriver? | 17:23 |
| ev0ldave | the irritating thing about it is that openstack allows multi servers with the same name and it has a fit trying to insert multiple records with the same name | 17:23 |
| ev0ldave | i could not find very good if any documentation on using it | 17:23 |
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| Disconnect | I keep getting that 'database file None None' intermittantly. annyoing. | 17:24 |
| sc68cal | ev0ldave: take a look at minidns.py | 17:24 |
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| sc68cal | ev0ldave: Regarding submitting display name of an instance to the DNS - I actually stripped that out in a private fork | 17:26 |
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| ev0ldave | what dns backend do you use? | 17:27 |
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| sc68cal | near nova/network/manager.py:L1183 | 17:27 |
| ev0ldave | :1183 | 17:27 |
| sc68cal | ev0ldave: An in-house solution that has a REST API | 17:28 |
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| sc68cal | We implemeted an object that inherits from DNSDriver, then stuck the calls to our DNS service inside those methods | 17:29 |
| sc68cal | create_entry and delete_entry specifically | 17:30 |
| crazed | hm that sounds prettynice | 17:30 |
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| sc68cal | Well - the downside is that only certain network managers call instance_dns_manager | 17:31 |
| sc68cal | VlanMananger does not | 17:31 |
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| sc68cal | since it overrides allocate_fixed_ip | 17:31 |
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| sc68cal | We keep fighting with the network operations people about that very fact. They want to use VlanMananger. | 17:32 |
| ev0ldave | nova-dns will handle that by just listening to amqp | 17:32 |
| sc68cal | True | 17:33 |
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| ev0ldave | well, either way, nova-dns seems to be a bit more complete at this point. perhaps will be better in folsom | 17:33 |
| ev0ldave | and for me that just wants it to work, nova-dns is setup to work with powerdns backend and i just needed to delegate that subdomain from AD | 17:34 |
| sc68cal | We've encountered some problems with dns_domains lp bug #1027998 specifically | 17:35 |
| sc68cal | So we had to strip out the validation piece, where before adding to an entry to a DNS zone, it checks to see that the zone is already in the dns_domains table in Nova | 17:36 |
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| sc68cal | We keep getting back null sets from the DB API call, which calls SQLAlchemy stuff | 17:36 |
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| crazed | how do you change the dnsmasq command line --domain parameter? | 17:53 |
| crazed | don't really want instances to get .novalocal obviously | 17:53 |
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| Nam_ | hello | 18:02 |
| Nam_ | I have a problem setting up vlan and cloudpipe for essex | 18:02 |
| Nam_ | if possible can anyone help walk me through this process? I'd really appreciate it | 18:03 |
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| swinchen | Is there a recommended forum to ask questions in? | 18:12 |
| swinchen | nm. duh. | 18:12 |
| swinchen | well, forums.openstack.org doesn't look like very high traffic :/ | 18:13 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031867 in nova "Tracebacks while using cloud-publish-tarball." [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031867 | 18:16 |
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| clarkb | swinchen: either on the mailing list or here | 18:18 |
| Nam_ | anyone available to help me out with vlan and cloudpipe setup? | 18:19 |
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| lorin1 | swinchen: I would recommend openstack-operators mailing list: http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-operators | 18:35 |
| Disconnect | is there a troubleshooting path for intermittant " (OperationalError) unable to open database file None None" errors? | 18:37 |
| Disconnect | sometimes I can sudo and it works, sometimes I can retry and it works | 18:38 |
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| crazed | what setting sets curl http://169.254.169.254/latest/meta-data/public-hostname to return <hostname>.novalocal | 19:05 |
| crazed | i want to change novalocal to a custom domain | 19:05 |
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| coolj | crazed: looks like you need to set the dhcp_domain flag to control that: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/api/metadata/handler.py#L146 | 19:12 |
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| crazed | coolj: ah! thanks | 19:12 |
| crazed | of course, need to reach for the code more often with openstack | 19:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031889 in openstack-common "kombu tests incompatible with anyjson-0.2.4" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031889 | 19:15 |
| crazed | also, if anyone knows a quick way to find out what compute node a specific instance is on that would save me from reinventing the wheel | 19:16 |
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| Diopter | crazed: Tried nova-manage vm list? | 19:18 |
| coolj | crazed: you can nova-manage vm list | grep ..., but nova-manage does wonky stuff with translating '-' to '_' and cases...I usually use something like mysql nova -e 'select host from instance where id=xxx' | 19:19 |
| coolj | s/instance/instances/ | 19:20 |
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| crazed | ah cool | 19:24 |
| crazed | is there no way to enforce hostname stuff? | 19:24 |
| crazed | i want to take what the user inputs and change it to something else | 19:24 |
| crazed | if there's not, no big deal, i just want the meta data api stuff to return what's actually in dns | 19:25 |
| coolj | crazed: I don't really understand what you mean...elaborate? | 19:26 |
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| crazed | so, the issue is if i use one of the dns plugins that monitors amqp for create/remove, it'll use the hostname entered by the user during instance creation | 19:27 |
| crazed | there's no uniquness on that | 19:27 |
| crazed | i'd rather it be $userprovided_hostname-$ip.$domain | 19:27 |
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| sc68cal | crazed: You'll have to modify the code of either nova-dns or nova | 19:31 |
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| crazed | sc68cal: yeah i'm not worried about doing that.. i guess i could | 19:35 |
| crazed | first round though i think i'll just hack some stuff up | 19:36 |
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| sc68cal | It's pretty trivial on the nova side | 19:38 |
| crazed | that's good to know | 19:38 |
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| crazed | i did notice nova command has some dns stuff in it | 19:39 |
| crazed | not sure how that gets used yet though | 19:39 |
| sc68cal | Yeah... I haven't been able to get it to work | 19:39 |
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| sc68cal | crazed: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/network/manager.py#L1266 | 19:40 |
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| sc68cal | alternative point is over in api/openstack/compute/servers.py | 19:41 |
| sc68cal | that's where the name is pulled out of the user's API request | 19:41 |
| crazed | hm interesting | 19:41 |
| sc68cal | First one requires you to run an instance_dns_backend - so you may want to do my second suggestion. Let me dig up the line # | 19:41 |
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| sc68cal | crazed: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/servers.py#L617 | 19:42 |
| sc68cal | although you may not have enough context at that point to add on the ip to the dns name | 19:43 |
| sc68cal | since IP provisioning hasn't happened yet | 19:43 |
| sc68cal | So - that's actually out, come to think of it. | 19:43 |
| sc68cal | Guess your best bet is nova-dns then. | 19:44 |
| phschwartz | Hi all, I need a little help with configuration. I have a production environment that is mapped out as follows. http://paste2.org/p/2090773 I want to come up with the best nova configuration for supporting all 12 current nodes with a single nic used and the abbility to scale out in the future. I have a second nic, but prefer to not have to add a switch and cables. | 19:44 |
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| crazed | yeah.. i'll probably have to drop it in nova-dns | 19:44 |
| ev0ldave | in the simple listener, it listens for the amqp message then pulls the ip info from mysql. you can join hostname and ip at that point for unique names | 19:46 |
| Disconnect | hmm. i added a network bridge and now dhcp isn't working on eth0. its receiving packets but I can't get tcpdump on it to find out what packets | 19:46 |
| Disconnect | the new bridge is working fine though | 19:46 |
| ev0ldave | in the _pollip definition | 19:46 |
| Disconnect | (using http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/using-multi-nics.html) | 19:47 |
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| Disconnect | neither interface gets dhcp but if I manually configure the new one it works. (unfortunately it doesn't go anywhere useful - it only goes to the SAN) | 19:48 |
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| Disconnect | ok it is up, its just dhcp failed. thats something at least. | 19:49 |
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| Disconnect | cool. if i configure it manually it works. tried restarting nova-network, still no love | 19:51 |
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| crazed | ev0ldave: thanks, yeah looks easy to hack on this | 19:51 |
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| ev0ldave | oh one other thing, not sure if you ran into the issue or not, you'll notice auth.py is looking for admin_name, admin_password from /etc/nova-dns/dns-api-paste.ini but it is not mentioned in the documentation | 19:57 |
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| crazed | weird | 19:58 |
| crazed | alright | 19:58 |
| crazed | thanks for the tip | 19:58 |
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| ev0ldave | also, keystone api must have changed as i had to make changes to keystone auth | 19:59 |
| ev0ldave | or something was different in my environment | 19:59 |
| ev0ldave | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19908/ | 19:59 |
| ev0ldave | keystone was looking for auth_url not endpoint | 19:59 |
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| ev0ldave | also needed to add the tenant | 20:00 |
| crazed | not bad | 20:02 |
| crazed | got my rc.local working properly, now just need real ptr/a records | 20:02 |
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| dolphm | ev0ldave: if you were previously providing a token instead of a username/password, then keystone would have also been expecting an endpoint instead of an auth_url | 20:10 |
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| dolphm | (alternatively, given a token AND username/password, the token takes precedence, the credentials are ignored, and an endpoint is expected) | 20:11 |
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| ev0ldave | i see, either way, it originally was asking for only user/pass, no tenant.... probably be better to use token though instead of user/pass | 20:13 |
| dolphm | ev0ldave: user/pass without tenant is only useful to get a list of tenants, so you can select one | 20:14 |
| dolphm | ev0ldave: providing a token is only really useful for bootstrapping keystone with data | 20:15 |
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| ev0ldave | dolphm: ok, will leave it be then :) | 20:17 |
| dolphm | ev0ldave: your code looks good as-is :) | 20:17 |
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| tix | yo | 21:16 |
| tix | anybody around? | 21:16 |
| tix | dolphm: you here? | 21:16 |
| tix | cryptk: you here? | 21:17 |
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| zykes- | tix: ? | 21:22 |
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| tix | zykes-: hey | 21:22 |
| tix | so i just got a rackspace cloud account | 21:23 |
| tix | and all the good shit about openstack has been completely gutted | 21:23 |
| tix | on rackspace public cloud | 21:23 |
| tix | stuff like security groups, etc. | 21:23 |
| tix | wtf? | 21:23 |
| zykes- | gutted how ? | 21:24 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031938 in openstack-manuals "Keystone middleware paste-ini change" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031938 | 21:26 |
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| tix | cryptk, dolphm | 21:45 |
| tix | i'm in need of your assistance | 21:45 |
| tix | =] | 21:45 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1031954 in swift "Slow Ring Loading in 2.7 due to Ring Unpickling" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1031954 | 22:06 |
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| comptona | Are there any supported distributed filesystems (Gluster, GFS2, etc.) for openstack? | 22:32 |
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| binyamin | Is Swift required by Openstack? | 23:53 |
| notmyname | binyamin: what are you trying to do? | 23:53 |
| jeremyb | is cheese required by sandwich? | 23:53 |
| notmyname | binyamin: swift is required no more than nova is | 23:53 |
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| binyamin | Well, I've been tasked with putting together a VM cluster for an engineering group. I'm wondering if Swift is required or can the data just live within the VM's and I can just go with Nova, Glance, Horizon and Keystone. | 23:55 |
| binyamin | Or does that not make any sense at all? | 23:55 |
| binyamin | hmm. Well. OK. | 23:58 |
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