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| kerouac | good evening | 02:02 |
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| kerouac | does the interface i'm using for the bridge need to be in promiscuous mode if i'm using nova-api-metadata instead of nova-api? | 02:03 |
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| uictamale | Hel everyone - does nova-volumes need to be its own physical lvm volume, or can it just be its own logical volume? | 04:04 |
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| freeflying_ | udagawa, nova-volume needs a lvm to work | 04:10 |
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| uictamale | freeflying - On my new servers, I have LVM installed on a single whole-disk partition on a 500GB drive - but I'm confused I should have multiple physical volumes on the single partition or not | 04:23 |
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| uictamale | I think I solved it by renaming my pv | 04:33 |
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| uictamale | Is it true that the 'tiny' instance size doesn't actually have any of its own diskspace? | 04:44 |
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| rpawlik | the "tiny" size will only be as big as it needs to | 04:51 |
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| rpawlik | for example, if your image is 2GB, the instance will only be 2GB | 04:52 |
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| rpawlik | at least, that's my understanding | 04:52 |
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| uictamale | and if you run something on it that takes space, where does it go? | 04:57 |
| uictamale | or does it 'launch' with a 100% full disk? | 04:58 |
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| eb_ | I'm trying to install Openstack with two hosts: one controller (with nova-compute, nova-scheduler, nova-network) and one compute (only nova-compute) in flat DHCP mode. When I launch an 'instance on the controller all it is ok, on the compute instead it doesn't work | 08:45 |
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| eb_ | The error in syslog is Aug 5 10:10:54 ubuntu dnsmasq[2430]: read /etc/hosts - 7 addresses Aug 5 10:10:54 ubuntu dnsmasq-dhcp[2430]: read /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.conf Aug 5 10:10:54 ubuntu dnsmasq-dhcp[2430]: DHCPRELEASE(br100) 192.168.100.5 fa:16:3e:01:6d:cf unknown lease Aug 5 10:10:55 ubuntu kernel: [ 4090.552812] br100: port 2(vnet0) entering forwarding state Aug 5 10:10:55 ubuntu kernel: [ 4090.553678] br100: port 2( | 08:48 |
| eb_ | The controller is a notebook and I have only one nic | 08:49 |
| eb_ | I think to have problems with my network config | 08:50 |
| freeflying | eb_: better to paste your error log to paste.ubuntu.com or similar website | 08:50 |
| eb_ | Sorry | 08:50 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033123 in quantum "no way to query ports by ip address" [Critical,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033123 | 11:39 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033178 in nova "pycrypto is unused and the existing code is potentially insecure to use" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033178 | 11:55 |
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| eb_ | In a compute node, in nova-compute.log, I have this error:ERROR nova.compute.manager [instance: f171d7d9-0484-42fc-98fd-6d5d4bc04d6a] Instance failed network setup | 11:57 |
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| trygvis | then you probably should look at nova-network.log too | 11:58 |
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| eb_ | Network.log on controller:http://paste.openstack.org/show/19963/ | 12:02 |
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| eb_ | I have a controller with only a nic and I have problem with the nova.conf e network configuration | 12:03 |
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| eb_ | The controller work fine , I can launch an instance and connect it, but on the compute no. I'm using flatdhcp... | 12:05 |
| trygvis | looks like you're having issues with your MQ | 12:05 |
| trygvis | can you connect to it from the compute node? | 12:05 |
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| eb_ | yes, on nova-compute.log: 2012-08-05 14:06:48 INFO nova.rpc.common [req-9c92fc14-00e6-4f86-b56a-df619506b548 None None] Connected to AMQP server on 192.168.1.2:5672 | 12:07 |
| trygvis | you should see the same in the nova-network.log too | 12:08 |
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| eb_ | in nova-network.log 2012-08-05 12:48:42 INFO nova.rpc.common Connected to AMQP server on 192.168.1.2:5672 | 12:13 |
| eb_ | I think mi error is in nova.conf or in interfaces... | 12:13 |
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| eb_ | Probably only on the compute, because the controller work well, it launches the instances | 12:15 |
| eb_ | I'm using only a nova-network on the controller. | 12:15 |
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| nymous | hello, anyone here? | 12:17 |
| nymous | i have 2 questions, one about developing and another about disaster recovery | 12:17 |
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| nymous | first one... how can i execute a routing on all nova-network instances on all nodes it is installed? | 12:20 |
| nymous | *routine | 12:20 |
| nymous | i have daemon i wish to SIGHUP on nova-network event | 12:21 |
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| nymous | but this event is only happens on 1 node... how can i send it to another? | 12:22 |
| eb_ | _trygvis Have you any idea? | 12:23 |
| eb_ | My nova.conf on the controller http://paste.openstack.org/show/19965/ | 12:25 |
| eb_ | Network interfaces on the controller | 12:26 |
| eb_ | http://paste.openstack.org/show/19966/ | 12:26 |
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| eb_ | Network interfaces on the compute http://paste.openstack.org/show/19967/ | 12:28 |
| eb_ | nova.conf on the compute: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19968/ | 12:29 |
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| eb_ | I'm using this guide, but it isn't clear to install a compute node... | 12:36 |
| nymous | eb_: your instances aren't starting on compute? | 12:39 |
| eb_ | yes | 12:40 |
| nymous | set vncserver_listen=0.0.0.0 | 12:40 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1033186 in quantum "Treat agent specific requirements in a separate "pip requires" file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033186 | 12:41 |
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| eb_ | I did it in the nova.conf on the compute and I restarted nova-compute | 12:42 |
| nymous | and it didn't worked? | 12:44 |
| eb_ | no, ErrorNetworkingNo State | 12:45 |
| kerouac | kill dnsmasq ; restart nova-network | 12:45 |
| nymous | tail -100 /var/log/nova/network.log | 12:46 |
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| eb_ | on compute nova-compute.log: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19969/ | 12:49 |
| eb_ | _kerouac I have only one nova-network on the controller, and it works fine when I launch an instance on controller. | 12:51 |
| eb_ | The problem is on the compute (only nova-compute). I think to have errors in nova.conf or network interface | 12:52 |
| eb_ | I'm using only a nic... | 12:52 |
| eb_ | I don't know how I have to use bridge... | 12:53 |
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| eb_ | On the controller it works: 192.168.100.5 512MB RAM | 1 VCPU | 0 DiskActiveNone Running and I can view the instance log | 13:02 |
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| eb_ | In this case on the controller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19970/ | 13:05 |
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| trygvis | hm, should I run both glance and nova-objectstorage at the same time? | 13:05 |
| nymous | yes | 13:07 |
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| trygvis | which port is objectstore listening on? it doesn't want to start: [Errno 99] Cannot assign requested address | 13:08 |
| eb_ | Is it better if I install nova-network on the compute? | 13:08 |
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| trygvis | hmm, what is wrong when the dhcp server is not started? | 13:39 |
| eb_ | _trygvis I dont' understand | 13:44 |
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| trygvis | I was expecting dnsmasq to run on the box, but it's not. I wonder why | 13:46 |
| kerouac | is compute running? | 13:46 |
| trygvis | yeå | 13:46 |
| trygvis | yep | 13:46 |
| trygvis | is it nova-network or -compute that is starting dnsmasq? | 13:49 |
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| eb_ | The nova-compute on compute is running | 13:52 |
| eb_ | how I can control who start dnsmasq? | 13:52 |
| eb_ | on the compute ps -e | grep dnsmasq: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19971/ | 13:54 |
| melmoth | i do not know for sure, but i guess switching from flatdhcpmanager to flatdhco would let you deal with dhcp yourself ? | 13:54 |
| melmoth | i meant from flatdhcp tp flat network | 13:54 |
| eb_ | dnsmasq on the controller: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19972/ | 13:54 |
| melmoth | but.. i havent try myself | 13:55 |
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| trygvis | flat would work if I wanted to integrate the opencloud stack into my existing dhcp, which I don't :) | 13:56 |
| trygvis | I got my existing one to not serve IPs to kvm mac addresses and that setup work just fine | 13:56 |
| trygvis | the problem now is that dnsmasq isn't started at all | 13:56 |
| melmoth | all i know is, here, it only runs on the node running nova-network | 13:58 |
| trygvis | this is an all-in-one box | 13:58 |
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| trygvis | hm, on the box that work I have /var/lib/nova/networks/nova-br100.{conf,pid} | 14:05 |
| trygvis | but none on the one that doesn't work | 14:05 |
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| trygvis | hmmmm, my instances doesn't have eth0, only lo | 14:13 |
| trygvis | that's messed up | 14:13 |
| kerouac | that could pose a problem | 14:13 |
| livemoon | hi, can I create a centos image without extracting ext4 partition? | 14:15 |
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| trygvis | nova-manage floating list show a list of IPs, but nova-manage network list doesn't list any networks | 14:15 |
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| trygvis | ah, sweet. that did it | 14:17 |
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| trygvis | now on to figure out why it can't ping stuff | 14:21 |
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| trygvis | strange. vnet0 and eth1 are both connected to br100. eth1 is up. how come I can't ping the VMs from another machine on the eth1 net? | 14:46 |
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| trygvis | I see that the interface is receiving packages so I guess it is some sort of filtering going on | 14:46 |
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| trygvis | ah, /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward was 0 | 14:49 |
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| uictamale | I just tried creating my first instnace, and the after sitting in 'pending' for a while, it's now in 'Error'. When I go to the instance log tab, it says it failed to get the log | 14:56 |
| trygvis | it probably didn't start at all. check your logs | 14:56 |
| trygvis | nova-network.log and compute logs in particular | 14:56 |
| uictamale | ok | 14:57 |
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| uictamale | libvirtError: internal error no supported architecture for os type 'hvm' | 14:58 |
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| uictamale | looks like it's in the libvirt networking / connection part | 15:00 |
| trygvis | "This is a symptom that the KVM kernel modules have not been loaded." | 15:00 |
| uictamale | aha | 15:00 |
| trygvis | the manual is quite good: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/kvm.html | 15:00 |
| uictamale | modprobe kvm and trying again | 15:00 |
| trygvis | (it has a builtin search thingy) | 15:00 |
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| uictamale | well crap, says i don't have the VT extensions enabled in bios | 15:02 |
| uictamale | I'll try qemu - unless you think thta's a bad idfea | 15:02 |
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| trygvis | it might work but it will probably be uselessly slow | 15:03 |
| trygvis | I'd try lxc instead, but it depends on what you want to do | 15:03 |
| trygvis | actually, I'd just enable the extensions in bios if you can | 15:04 |
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| uictamale | no access to the servers at the moment :\ | 15:04 |
| uictamale | and I'm really just trying to get things configured - It's ok if the guest is slow as long as I can test things like networking / adding additional computer clusters, etc | 15:04 |
| trygvis | then I guess qemu is the closest to the real thing | 15:05 |
| trygvis | but I'm a newbie myself :) | 15:05 |
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| uictamale | I've only been at this a few days, but I've already learned a ton. I'm still a bit fuzzy on where the disk space comes from for 'instance-store' style VMs | 15:06 |
| uictamale | and the whole network routing stuff | 15:06 |
| trygvis | I just got my setup to work network wise, so now I'm looking into volumes myself (non-ephemeral stuff) | 15:07 |
| uictamale | are you using floating IPs? | 15:07 |
| trygvis | nope | 15:08 |
| uictamale | flat dhcp then? | 15:08 |
| trygvis | yep | 15:08 |
| uictamale | yah, I like that from an ease-of-configuration standpoint, but we need to be able to access our VMs by IP over our internal network, so as I understand it, that means floating IPs | 15:09 |
| trygvis | nah, you don't need that if you can connect your VMs directly to the LAN | 15:09 |
| trygvis | that is what I have done here, works just fine | 15:10 |
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| uictamale | oh really? | 15:10 |
| uictamale | so, you're host machine has an ip like x.y.z.10, and your VMs can be at x.y.z.11, x.y.z.12 ? | 15:10 |
| trygvis | yep | 15:11 |
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| uictamale | I thought that's what floating IPs were needed for | 15:11 |
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| uictamale | since with flatdhcp, it sounds like it gives your VMs a 'bogus' nat address address (like an amazon private IP) | 15:11 |
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| trygvis | no, you still need to manage lists of those IPs | 15:12 |
| trygvis | one issue that I ran into was that both my LAN dhcpd and dnsmasq was giving out IPs | 15:12 |
| trygvis | so I had to configure my lan dhcpd to not give out addresses to kvm macs | 15:13 |
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| uictamale | makes sense | 15:15 |
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| uictamale | so, if you're on a different computer in your network, how does it get the IP for one of your VMs from dns? does dnsmasq get queried? | 15:17 |
| nymous | how is the instance_dns_manager working in vlan manager mode? | 15:17 |
| nymous | i was using it with flatdhcp and it worked - instance names got inserted into dns etc | 15:18 |
| nymous | now i switched to vlan and it does nothing | 15:18 |
| nymous | why? | 15:18 |
| trygvis | uictamale: nova-network runs a dnsmasq instance which it keeps up to date | 15:18 |
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| uictamale | gotcha | 15:22 |
| uictamale | well, it hasn't failed on build now that I switched to qemu, but i'm surprised how long it's taking - should it take several minutes? | 15:22 |
| trygvis | which image are you using? | 15:23 |
| trygvis | the cirros one take a few seconds | 15:23 |
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| uictamale | ubuntu 12.04 | 15:30 |
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| uictamale | ClassNotFound: Class LibvirtDriver could not be found: 'module' object has no attribute 'LibvirtDriver' | 15:34 |
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| trygvis | bummer :) | 15:41 |
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| nymous | for now i hate openstack so much... you can't imagine | 15:43 |
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| koolhead17 | zykes-, around ? | 15:50 |
| Dieterbe | nymous: how come? | 15:51 |
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| uictamale | Error associating Floating IP: No fixed ips associated to instance (HTTP 400) | 15:57 |
| uictamale | new error | 15:57 |
| trygvis | when booting? | 15:57 |
| uictamale | trying to associate floating ip | 15:57 |
| uictamale | 0 CRITICAL nova [-] Instance instance-00000003 could not be found | 15:57 |
| koolhead17 | uictamale, is instance with ID running | 15:59 |
| uictamale | koolhead17: Looks like it's in 'task' 'scheduling and power state 'failed' | 16:00 |
| uictamale | status is active | 16:00 |
| koolhead17 | uictamale, so u can ping it | 16:00 |
| uictamale | I don't know what to ping :) | 16:00 |
| uictamale | no ip yet far as I can tell | 16:00 |
| kerouac | are you supposed to use nova-api-metadata on the compute nodes only? | 16:01 |
| koolhead17 | can u check /var/lib/nova/instaces/id/log if it shows something | 16:01 |
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| trygvis | getting the volume stuff to work was .. easy | 16:08 |
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| uictamale | nice | 16:08 |
| uictamale | wish I could say the same for me | 16:08 |
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| trygvis | it would be nice if it was possible to get kvm to use the volume group directly instead of going through iscsi | 16:09 |
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| uictamale | by using iscsi can't you use disks on other cluster nodes though? | 16:10 |
| trygvis | sure can, so I see why many people would want it | 16:10 |
| uictamale | yah that's a must-have for our setup | 16:10 |
| trygvis | but I'm sure you'll loose quite a bit of performance on it. no big deal, but it would be nice | 16:11 |
| trygvis | the volume driver is swappable so I'm sure it can be done as long as kvm supports it. which I kinda assume it does | 16:11 |
| uictamale | i'm sure someone's working on a way to do that | 16:11 |
| uictamale | high IO is a big deal for a lot of people | 16:11 |
| trygvis | indeed | 16:12 |
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| eb_ | In the log I find that on the compute there isn't ip when I start an instance: http://paste.openstack.org/show/19974/ What's the problem? | 16:13 |
| trygvis | I would guess you are out of IPs | 16:14 |
| trygvis | or you haven't defined any IPs that your instance can use, like missing network definitions or wrong definitions | 16:15 |
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| eb_ | I'm a little bit confused...sorry | 16:19 |
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| eb_ | I don't understand the error. I change my nova.conf and network interfaces on compute | 16:21 |
| eb_ | I copy it from controller, I change only myip in nova.conf and ip in interfaces | 16:21 |
| zykes- | koolhead17: ? | 16:23 |
| JoeJulian | I have a server stuck in HARD_REBOOT. What can be done to clear this state? | 16:26 |
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| kerouac | JoeJulian: update the vm_state, deleted, time_deleted fields in the instance tables | 16:30 |
| kerouac | table* | 16:30 |
| kerouac | in what circumstances would I want ot use nova-api-metadata? | 16:31 |
| kerouac | as opposed to nova-api? | 16:31 |
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| nymous | Dieterbe: i had to read sources to understand what to write into the config. and still it can behave differently | 16:40 |
| nymous | i'm so tired dealing with all of this | 16:40 |
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| Dieterbe | nymous: "all of this" ? | 16:43 |
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| nymous | really lots of things | 16:44 |
| nymous | cloudpipe vpn? it just doesn't working. everything is setup, iptables entries are there, it's ip is 192.168.0.2 and all. multi_host networking seems to ruin the all point of it | 16:44 |
| nymous | project zipfile for vpn? nope, forget about it, you won't even get a documentation bits about it | 16:45 |
| nymous | instance dns manager. ok, i've set it up, it was working with flatdhcp networking, cool | 16:45 |
| nymous | changed to vlan manager and bang, it doesn't add entries automaticly | 16:46 |
| nymous | also, i got several spawning errors which i was able to fix by hacking sources | 16:46 |
| nymous | grrr... i totally hate this piece of software | 16:46 |
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| nymous | oh, disaster recovery | 16:47 |
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| nymous | i had accidentally rebooted a compute node | 16:47 |
| nymous | nova still says all instances are running | 16:47 |
| nymous | but they don't | 16:47 |
| nymous | ok, send them a reboot event | 16:48 |
| nymous | and they just stuck not doing anything | 16:48 |
| kerouac | The thing I'm really not hapy about is the lack of decent, consistent documentation on essex | 16:48 |
| nymous | had to manually restart them with virsh and edit database to make nova happy again | 16:48 |
| nymous | automated solution? there??? | 16:48 |
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| nymous | disaster recovery documentation entry just says it would be alright, don't panic | 16:49 |
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| kerouac | I'll ask a third time if anyone can tell me when to use nova-api-metadata | 16:50 |
| kerouac | and when to use nova-api | 16:51 |
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| JoeJulian | This isn't meant in any way to assault your frustration, but as an active community member on another project I wonder if you've isolated the cause of any of these problems and filed bug reports? That's usually the second-best way to get problems solved. | 16:51 |
| kerouac | it seems the metadata one only answers requests on 8774 | 16:51 |
| kerouac | erm 8775 | 16:51 |
| JoeJulian | (the best way, of course, is to be a programmer and solve it. :D ) | 16:51 |
| kerouac | No | 16:52 |
| kerouac | the best way of course is to provide the end user with documentation that is accurate | 16:52 |
| kerouac | This is not the case with this suite of software | 16:52 |
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| kerouac | I will not be able to file bugs on documentation issues until i know what is not correct in the document | 16:53 |
| JoeJulian | kerouac: From what I have been able to understand so far (and I'm a noob) nova-api-metadata is the metadata server that your vm's connect to to retrieve their metadata. nova-api seems to be the service used to interface with openstack. | 16:54 |
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| kerouac | JoeJulian: ok, that's what i thought, too | 16:55 |
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| kerouac | but why can't they run on hte same node? | 16:55 |
| JoeJulian | I have everything running on the same node. | 16:55 |
| kerouac | nova-api and nova-metadata-api? | 16:55 |
| kerouac | erm , nova-api-metadata? | 16:56 |
| JoeJulian | ok, now you've got me wondering if I'm lying about that... just a sec and I'll check. | 16:56 |
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| kerouac | i've brought up a few 4-5 node implementations of openstack so far | 16:56 |
| kerouac | instances can start on all compute nodes | 16:57 |
| nymous | run nova-api on controller, nova-metadata-api on compute | 16:57 |
| nymous | at least it works for me | 16:57 |
| kerouac | but the dns and other metadata is not being passed between control nodes | 16:57 |
| kerouac | nymous: thanks | 16:57 |
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| JoeJulian | Ah, ok. That makes sense. nova-api also provides the metatdata service. On a compute node, since the metadata request has to be looped back via iptables, you have to have a local metadata server. Since the -api runs the entire controller, you use the lighter -api-metatdata service on the compute node. | 16:57 |
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| kerouac | JoeJulian: which doc are you looking at- the nova compute admin guide? | 16:59 |
| nymous | JoeJulian: if it was my hobby project, i would definetelly make bug reports on any issue i got. but then i'm trying to make a production setup with ETA etc, all this s**t is freaking me out | 16:59 |
| JoeJulian | No, I'm looking at what I actually have and working backwards. | 16:59 |
| kerouac | k | 16:59 |
| nymous | forget about docs, they aren't even declare on how to properly setup another compute node | 17:00 |
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| kerouac | yeah, that's my next questions | 17:00 |
| kerouac | i copy the api-paste.ini, too, yes? | 17:00 |
| kerouac | along with nova.conf? | 17:01 |
| kerouac | to the compute node | 17:01 |
| nymous | i'm using them for nova.conf entries description... and still it is faster to read to source code than to understand something from docs or have a question answered here | 17:01 |
| JoeJulian | And nymous: I have the same sticky-reboot stage problem that you were. | 17:01 |
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| nymous | JoeJulian: have you got any solution? | 17:02 |
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| JoeJulian | Not yet. Still trying to figure out which piece the request is getting stuck in. | 17:02 |
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| JoeJulian | Looks like it's "Timeout: Timeout while waiting on RPC response." in amqp | 17:05 |
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| nymous | i found a strange behaviour on network-api | 17:07 |
| nymous | it should return network info for instances, including instance ip | 17:07 |
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| nymous | sometimes it is returned twice with no ip on second occurrence | 17:08 |
| JoeJulian | Ah, ok... my nova-compute is dying due to some RPC timeout. | 17:09 |
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| JoeJulian | in pyamqplib.py. I wonder if there's something wrong with rabbitmq... | 17:10 |
| kerouac | JoeJulian: grep metadata in the output of console-log | 17:10 |
| kerouac | oh wait, the daemon, you mean | 17:11 |
| JoeJulian | right | 17:11 |
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| JoeJulian | Hmm, seems that this rpc call doesn't ever get a response... {"_context_roles": ["admin"], "_msg_id": "a2b34cfb9c054fa7aed7ac6158030847", "_context_read_deleted": "no", "_context_request_id": "req-3a08e2d1-fc3e-4507-afc8-336c80e95925", "args": {"instance_id": 8, "instance_uuid": "db3e37fc-afcf-4594-a3af-9834978ffcc0", "host": "mail.netriver.lynnwood.ewcs.com", "project_id": "7df1cc4159ae463d8420225a7e944a79", "rxtx_factor": 1.0}, "_context_au | 18:18 |
| JoeJulian | th_token": null, "_context_is_admin": true, "_context_project_id": null, "_context_timestamp": "2012-08-05T18:13:48.468308", "_context_user_id": null, "method": "get_instance_nw_info", "_context_remote_address": null} | 18:18 |
| JoeJulian | oops, that was longer than it looked, sorry. | 18:18 |
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| JoeJulian | So nova-compute issues that RPC call, what process should be picking that up? | 18:19 |
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| JoeJulian | Aha, network should but network seems to be blocked somewhere along the line. | 18:23 |
| JoeJulian | network blocks at 'Attempting to grab file lock "ensure_bridge" for method "ensure_bridge"' | 18:27 |
| JoeJulian | Anyone have any clue how to clear that? | 18:28 |
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| nymous | oh, its a lock file somewhere in the var | 18:36 |
| nymous | check for nova subdirs in /var/* | 18:36 |
| JoeJulian | Ok, still not sure how I should have cleared that, but I changed the lock_path and it cleared that blocking problem. | 18:37 |
| nymous | you should just remove that file and it would unstuck | 18:37 |
| nymous | i had this problem too | 18:37 |
| JoeJulian | I would have thought so, but there was no file named "ensure_bridge" anywhere. | 18:37 |
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| trygvis | is there an easy way to create a volume from an image in glance? | 18:41 |
| benner | trygvis: mount volume, do dd | 18:42 |
| trygvis | right | 18:42 |
| benner | i mean attach | 18:42 |
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| benner | i think i sow bluprint for this purpose | 18:43 |
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| trygvis | hm, are there any cloud images of debian? like ubuntu has | 18:48 |
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| zykes- | trygvis: you can build using Oz | 18:59 |
| trygvis | they didn't have any images for debian iirc. and I couldn't get it to work | 19:01 |
| trygvis | but I'll just run debootstrap | 19:02 |
| Diopter | You could make one, ostensibly. | 19:03 |
| trygvis | I could, but that would make me read source code | 19:03 |
| trygvis | and at this point I'd rather get something done | 19:04 |
| Diopter | Mmm. | 19:06 |
| trygvis | hm, debootstrap is done. I guess I better install grub too | 19:06 |
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| Diopter | And a kernel. | 19:07 |
| Diopter | And set the root password | 19:07 |
| Diopter | debootstrap assumes you probably want a chroot and not a bootable system :P | 19:07 |
| Diopter | You'll need to populate /etc/fstab too | 19:07 |
| Diopter | And /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, install and dpkg-reconfigure locales, console-setup.... | 19:08 |
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| trygvis | I was hoping to use cloud-init to set up hostname etc | 19:18 |
| trygvis | at least once it's out of experimental | 19:18 |
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| Diopter | Mmm | 19:20 |
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| trygvis | hmm, how do I make an instance actually use a volume instead of an image to boot from? | 19:27 |
| trygvis | oh: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1008622 | 19:30 |
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| trygvis | is it possible to get the bios/grub output when a kvm image is starting? | 19:35 |
| trygvis | the console.log file is empty | 19:35 |
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| trygvis | wait, nm. vnc has it | 19:37 |
| zykes- | trygvis: vnc.. | 19:37 |
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| trygvis | ha, #win | 20:03 |
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| trygvis | do I need to do anything in particular to get something in my console.log? | 20:18 |
| melmoth | you need to boot with console=ttyS0 i guess | 20:19 |
| melmoth | (see how grub is configured on a ubuntu image) | 20:19 |
| trygvis | clever | 20:19 |
| trygvis | console=hvc0 | 20:20 |
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| Diopter | It's got to come through a serial port, in short. | 20:21 |
| trygvis | yeah, I saw the comment in the .xml file | 20:22 |
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| trygvis | hm, that didn't quite seem to work | 20:26 |
| Diopter | trygvis: Is this your debian image? | 20:27 |
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| trygvis | yep | 20:28 |
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| trygvis | grr, it's annoying that it's so easy for images to become undeletable | 20:30 |
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| trygvis | so, cloud-init is using this new /etc/init thing. is that sysvinit-compatible? | 20:45 |
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| trygvis | basically I can't see that any cloud-init stuff was run when the image booted | 20:46 |
| benner | can anyone give link or smth to nova multinic real usage using flat dhcp? | 20:47 |
| benner | i tryed and got situation that nova tryes to do other bridges on same interface (nova flat interface) and ignores nova-manage create network ... <interface> setting | 20:48 |
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| trygvis | someone really needs to make a script to clean out old instances | 21:08 |
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| trygvis | I'm running the latest release that's in debian/sid. is the version in git/devstack far ahead of that? | 21:10 |
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| Diopter | trygvis: Er... latest release of what? | 21:15 |
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| trygvis | openstack | 21:15 |
| trygvis | 2012.1.1 | 21:15 |
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| Diopter | Debian is unlikely to have anything remotely new or well-packaged or well-tracking the projects. There's not been much maintainer muscle to keep up that I know of | 21:16 |
| Diopter | Whereas devstack is coming right out of some of the largest Openstack dev groups, so it's likely very far ahead. | 21:16 |
| Diopter | Plus, 2012.1.1 is 7 months ago. That's foreverlong in a project like this :P | 21:17 |
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| trygvis | that was what I was asking for, thanks | 21:17 |
| Diopter | trygvis: If you got misled by thinking that because Ubuntu is tracking well therefore Debian must be, it's the other way around. Canonical is making Ubuntu's packages track trunk, with about 1 week of lag time | 21:17 |
| Diopter | But that's not because Debian is doing that underneath. | 21:17 |
| trygvis | no, it was mainly because I use debian over ubuntu most of the time | 21:18 |
| Diopter | As do I | 21:18 |
| trygvis | and openstack was going into wheezy so I assume the code would be useful | 21:18 |
| Diopter | But as far as Debian vs. Ubuntu for an Openstack host from the packages... | 21:18 |
| Diopter | Keep in mind that Wheezy frozen recently. And is working hard on becoming the new stable. | 21:19 |
| trygvis | the packages itself work just fine, it's the code that doesn't work | 21:19 |
| trygvis | I know that very well | 21:19 |
| Diopter | Cool. Not trying to patronize, don't know your level of Debian experience :) | 21:19 |
| trygvis | this is not about packages, this is about openstack's code quality. the 2012.1.1 release in particular | 21:19 |
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| Diopter | It kind of is. Not much muscle in making sure the packaged release in Debian is updated, bugfixed, recent, relevant, etc... | 21:20 |
| trygvis | but 7 months behind might explain it | 21:20 |
| trygvis | I guess | 21:20 |
| Diopter | It was likely cut from trunk at some given point in time, and hoping for the best | 21:21 |
| Diopter | Very few users = very few bug reports, so it'll pass the "testing" muster. | 21:21 |
| trygvis | indeed | 21:22 |
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| kerouac | ok, peeps | 22:12 |
| kerouac | I've had openstack working with a number of compute nodes in about 700 different incorrect configurations | 22:12 |
| kerouac | i can start images on remote compute nodes | 22:13 |
| kerouac | but i can only reach them from the node that hosts the vm | 22:13 |
| kerouac | (today) | 22:13 |
| trygvis | did you enable ipv4_forwarding? | 22:13 |
| kerouac | yeah, all that worked | 22:13 |
| kerouac | i was acutally able to ping/ssh fromteh controller node | 22:14 |
| kerouac | thne i added a third node | 22:14 |
| kerouac | and got drunk | 22:14 |
| trygvis | where does nova-network run? | 22:14 |
| kerouac | ... | 22:14 |
| kerouac | on the compute node | 22:14 |
| kerouac | i'm pretty sure my private network is off, which is causing iptables ot filter the traffic | 22:15 |
| kerouac | when i say 'off' , i mean 'wrong' | 22:15 |
| trygvis | you can look at the iptable setup with iptables-save | 22:15 |
| kerouac | anyway, i didn't start this conversation to whine (this time) | 22:15 |
| trygvis | is the gateway inside the vm correctly set up? | 22:15 |
| kerouac | trygvis: i can hit the gateway from my vm | 22:16 |
| kerouac | from inside my vm | 22:16 |
| kerouac | i can get to the outside net on it just fine, too | 22:16 |
| kerouac | like yahoo.com etc | 22:16 |
| kerouac | waht i was wondering: | 22:16 |
| kerouac | what's in your nova.conf file for a metadata_host? | 22:16 |
| kerouac | the controller IP or the compute node IP? | 22:17 |
| philhsmith | I had to recently change metadata_host to an IP, and not a hostname (to my controller IP) | 22:17 |
| kerouac | (on hte computenode) | 22:17 |
| philhsmith | with a hostname, iptables-restore was crapping out on nova-network start | 22:17 |
| kerouac | yeah, i'm all IP | 22:17 |
| philhsmith | k | 22:17 |
| kerouac | yeah, there's a bug with quantum related to that, too | 22:18 |
| kerouac | i'm not using quantum, but will wan t to | 22:18 |
| kerouac | ok so you are using the metadata host on the controller as your value for metadata_host on the compute node? | 22:18 |
| kerouac | are you using nova-api or nova-api-metadata on your compute nodes? | 22:19 |
| philhsmith | I'm actually trying the folsom-2 version out of the test PPA. But I'm running nova-api | 22:19 |
| kerouac | ok, cool | 22:20 |
| kerouac | how's folsom looking? | 22:20 |
| philhsmith | that attempted upgrade was, like, yesterday. So I have no idea if my instances can reach the metadata route | 22:20 |
| kerouac | i'm readdy to stab essex in hte eye | 22:20 |
| philhsmith | good so far. my custom flavor won't boot ubuntu 12.04, which is annoying. I need folsom to get ephemeral lvm storage | 22:20 |
| kerouac | right on | 22:20 |
| kerouac | i'm considering blowing everythogn away again and starting over | 22:22 |
| kerouac | my experiments with putting the private interface in promisc mode seems to have not been a good call | 22:23 |
| philhsmith | I had a hell of a time getting quantum+openvswitch to play ball | 22:23 |
| philhsmith | other than that, a clean install of essex (which what I had, as of a month or so ago) was pretty easy | 22:24 |
| kerouac | yeah, i started on that route, but there's too many people on this network switch in hte lab | 22:24 |
| kerouac | i can't tell what's my screw up, a bug or a network issue | 22:24 |
| kerouac | saving that for when i get a true sandbox | 22:24 |
| philhsmith | fair enough | 22:25 |
| kerouac | when you did hte first install, you used nova-api on the controller nodes and pointed the metadata_host value back to the controller, yeah? | 22:25 |
| philhsmith | I can't say I understand it totally either. The networking layer was the one thing I couldn't test in amazon with devstack | 22:25 |
| philhsmith | Yup | 22:25 |
| kerouac | yeah, you konw what: i'm too stupid for devstack | 22:25 |
| kerouac | i'm doign it from scratch | 22:25 |
| kerouac | philhsmith: your reply just saved me hours of trouble | 22:26 |
| philhsmith | that's what I ended up doing. devstack was a good reference though | 22:26 |
| kerouac | philhsmith: did you copy over your api-paste.ini to the compute nodes from teh controller, too? | 22:26 |
| kerouac | or just nova.conf? | 22:26 |
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| philhsmith | just nova.conf | 22:26 |
| kerouac | yes, i used the devstack script for reading reference | 22:26 |
| kerouac | ok, coo | 22:26 |
| kerouac | l | 22:27 |
| kerouac | i'm validated, then | 22:27 |
| kerouac | this all started when i tried to get fancy | 22:27 |
| philhsmith | your milage may vary, and all that | 22:27 |
| kerouac | and use the api-metadata | 22:27 |
| kerouac | and put the private / flat interface in promiscuous mode | 22:27 |
| kerouac | philhsmith: you have to run nova-network on your copmpute node, yes? | 22:27 |
| kerouac | seems obvious, but i'm asking | 22:28 |
| philhsmith | yea, I'm scared of the vlans enough as it is | 22:28 |
| philhsmith | I'm not a networking guy. I'm actually just the dev dragging our ops department into the 21st century | 22:28 |
| kerouac | same ^ | 22:28 |
| kerouac | well, not the dev here, but the ops arch | 22:28 |
| philhsmith | fair enough | 22:29 |
| kerouac | ok, then. i'm tearing this down and restarting. | 22:29 |
| philhsmith | good luck | 22:29 |
| kerouac | nova-network on the compute node... please tell me you needed that on the compute nodes. i can't see how it could run without it | 22:30 |
| kerouac | well, i see how it could possibly run, but it is a total spof | 22:30 |
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| kerouac | i'll probably hit you guys up about the nova-network daemon needing to run on the compute nodes later | 22:32 |
| kerouac | thanks for the info, philhsmith and others | 22:32 |
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| philhsmith | rock on | 22:34 |
| philhsmith | hopefully I can make my flavor here boot | 22:34 |
| kerouac | you have my moral support, sir. | 22:34 |
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| philhsmith | does anyone know off hand if it is illegal to have a 0 GB ephemeral (not root) device in a flavor configuration? | 22:34 |
| trygvis | isn't that what the default 'tiny' config has? | 22:35 |
| philhsmith | ..maybe | 22:36 |
| philhsmith | one sec | 22:36 |
| philhsmith | ..yes, it is | 22:36 |
| trygvis | there you go then :) | 22:36 |
| philhsmith | let's see if ubuntu 12.04 will boot in that.. | 22:36 |
| philhsmith | well, there's some nonsense between my image and flavor. If it boots in tiny, then I'll know that's not it | 22:36 |
| trygvis | I've been booting 12.04 in a tiny config all day long :) | 22:37 |
| philhsmith | good, hopefully that will work for me as well | 22:37 |
| philhsmith | the only other oddities of my flavor are the sufficiently ridiculously large ram and root disk sizes | 22:37 |
| philhsmith | 32GB and 1675GB respectively | 22:38 |
| philhsmith | I guess I have to be toe-ing over some invisible limit, if that's really the issue | 22:38 |
| philhsmith | yup, m1.tiny boots for me as well | 22:39 |
| philhsmith | ok, that actually answers a lot | 22:39 |
| philhsmith | just need to binary search until it starts working.. | 22:40 |
| philhsmith | thanks all, I'm out | 22:40 |
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| trygvis | hmm .. what does dnsmasq use as upstream dns? | 23:00 |
| trygvis | for some fucked up reason "proxy" is resolving to 127.0.0.1 | 23:01 |
| trygvis | I'm guessing it's using getent on the network node | 23:03 |
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