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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032868 in quantum "quantum cli list produces error if -c is specified and no results exist" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032868 | 00:51 |
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| QRPIKE | Hey guys, anyone know if you can over provision resources in openstack? | 00:51 |
| QRPIKE | anyone at all? | 00:53 |
| RamJett | QRPIKE What hypervisor ? I don't know if it make a difference, but I know you can with KVM | 00:53 |
| QRPIKE | I am willing to use whichever hypervisor allows it | 00:54 |
| QRPIKE | Are there any certain config files you must change to be able to enable it? | 00:56 |
| RamJett | Well on Ubuntu 12.04 install using KVM I do .. I just change the quota_ ... settings nova.conf on my compute node .. ie; quota_cores=48 .. there is also a max_core= setting | 00:58 |
| RamJett | quota_instances=100 | 00:59 |
| RamJett | ect | 00:59 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032878 in python-swiftclient "Container delete throughput constrained unnecessarily" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032878 | 01:51 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032879 in python-swiftclient "Container delete race condition causes timeout/retry" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032879 | 01:55 |
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| QRPIKE | hello all | 02:14 |
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| QRPIKE | Anyone been able to get Openstack working under VMware Fusion? | 02:45 |
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| roaet_ | QRPIKE: What was the problem you were having? | 02:51 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: I couldn't get it working due to libvirt. Apparently there are some issues with VMWare and that library. I saw some hacks online on how to fix the issues but they were more complex than just installing in a different place. | 02:53 |
| QRPIKE | I can get it all isntalled | 02:53 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: And I'm primarily talking about devstack :| | 02:53 |
| QRPIKE | but the compute service says XXX as the status | 02:53 |
| QRPIKE | I am using uksysadmin's openstack installer script | 02:53 |
| QRPIKE | which works great on bare metal machines | 02:54 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: Ah. I don't know. I wish I could be more helpful but I am just learning. I'm only working with devstack. | 02:54 |
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| QRPIKE | I am willing to use whichever script works under VMware. I am developing a UI for it, so I just need to have it working with the API accessible | 02:55 |
| roaet_ | Not sure. But if you wait a bit I'm sure someone will be able to help you. | 02:56 |
| QRPIKE | Thanks man! what part of openstack are u working on? | 02:56 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: I just started working on the project. I believe I will be messing with ... I have no idea. Probably some implementation of the API. | 02:57 |
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| QRPIKE | Awesome! I am excited to see so much community around Openstack. We were trying to decide between Cloudstack and Openstack, looks like Openstack is the winner | 02:58 |
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| roaet_ | QRPIKE: Oh definitely. Openstack has a very lively community that is very helpful (when they are awake:). I'm happy to have joined. It's growing and I'm sure it will be even more crazy awesome soon. | 02:59 |
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| russellb | QRPIKE: devstack should work for just getting it running in a VM | 03:22 |
| QRPIKE | Essex? | 03:22 |
| QRPIKE | and ubuntu 12.04 ? | 03:23 |
| roaet_ | russellb: I've been having a heck of a time trying to get devstack to run on ubuntu 12.04 in VMWare on OS X. libvirt just hoses the whole process. | 03:23 |
| russellb | hm, maybe it's not detecting that it's in VM properly on vmware .. | 03:24 |
| russellb | it needs to add a config option when running in a VM | 03:24 |
| QRPIKE | Have you had any luck with ubuntu 11 ? | 03:24 |
| QRPIKE | what config option? | 03:24 |
| russellb | it should have libvirt_type=qemu in /etc/nova/nova.conf | 03:24 |
| QRPIKE | i set it to qemu | 03:24 |
| russellb | k | 03:24 |
| QRPIKE | but when i do 'nova-manage service list' it says compute is XXX | 03:24 |
| QRPIKE | nova-compute manage nova enabled XXX None | 03:26 |
| QRPIKE | any other suggestions? | 03:29 |
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| russellb | have you looked at the compute log? | 03:29 |
| russellb | screen -x, go to the n-cpu tab | 03:29 |
| russellb | see what it's complaining about | 03:30 |
| QRPIKE | "There is no screen to be attached." ? | 03:30 |
| QRPIKE | haven't seen that command before | 03:30 |
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| QRPIKE | i usually just vim /var/log/nova/nova-compute.log | 03:31 |
| roaet_ | I received that same error after trying to run unstack.sh | 03:31 |
| roaet_ | It told me to screen -x and there were no screens, although ps ax showed a screen running. | 03:31 |
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| russellb | screen -x is only relevant if you're running devstack ... | 03:33 |
| QRPIKE | ah | 03:34 |
| russellb | if screen is running and you can't attach, you're usually trying to attach as a different user than screen is running as | 03:34 |
| Diopter | screen -ls is very useful | 03:34 |
| QRPIKE | So devstack works with 12.04 and essex? If so I will reimage my VM and try devstack instead | 03:34 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: if yours works then I can assume that the problem is with my host machine, OS X. | 03:35 |
| roaet_ | Or the version of the mbp. | 03:35 |
| QRPIKE | I didn't use devstack | 03:35 |
| QRPIKE | i used another installer script | 03:35 |
| QRPIKE | everything works except the nova-compute service. | 03:36 |
| QRPIKE | https://github.com/uksysadmin/OpenStackInstaller | 03:36 |
| QRPIKE | I'm also on OSX and a MBP | 03:37 |
| Diopter | Are you guys running Nova in VMs? | 03:38 |
| Diopter | If so, what hypervisor(s)? | 03:38 |
| roaet_ | I was trying to run devstack in vmware fusion on osx | 03:39 |
| roaet_ | I ran into many problems with this particular command: sudo virsh list --all | 03:39 |
| QRPIKE | VMware Fusion 4.x | 03:40 |
| QRPIKE | OSX 10.8 | 03:40 |
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| QRPIKE | MBP Retina | 03:40 |
| roaet_ | Exact setup. | 03:41 |
| Diopter | So | 03:41 |
| roaet_ | But he wasn't installing devstack, I was. :\ | 03:41 |
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| Diopter | You most likely are having an issue with not having nesting not being enabled properly in Fusion | 03:42 |
| Diopter | You'll need to make two changes to the .vmx file for the VM | 03:42 |
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| Diopter | A) add 'vhv.enable = "TRUE"' and B) change 'vcpu.hotadd' from "TRUE" to "FALSE" | 03:42 |
| QRPIKE | this is vmware's file for the VM ? | 03:43 |
| Diopter | That way nova can use kvm instead of qemu inside (vhv), and virsh/libvirt won't hang (vcpu) | 03:43 |
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| Diopter | Yep. | 03:43 |
| roaet_ | Diopter: Thanks a bunch. I will try this out. I wish I could edit that devstack page to help others. | 03:45 |
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| Diopter | I can probably do it or get it edited. | 03:45 |
| QRPIKE | hmm, I'm looking for this damn vmx file | 03:45 |
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| roaet_ | QRPIKE: it is the vmwarevm package. right click and explore contents. | 03:46 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: By default it should be in ~/Documents/VMWare Virtual Machines (or similar)/<vmnamesomething>/<vmname>.vmx | 03:46 |
| Diopter | MAke sure you stop the VM first, or else VMWare will overwrite your changes when it stops | 03:46 |
| QRPIKE | ahhh found it | 03:46 |
| roaet_ | Diopter: I hope this works! It'd be nice to run devstack locally instead of ... in openstack ;) | 03:46 |
| QRPIKE | ah men it would! | 03:47 |
| Diopter | hehe. It should definitely work. My team's doing all of our Openstack deployment development in Fusion (for the Mac guys) and KVM (for Linux) | 03:47 |
| roaet_ | Which team are you working with? | 03:47 |
| Diopter | Rackspace Cloudbuilders. Private cloud Openstack. | 03:48 |
| roaet_ | Oh hi. I was just hired into Rackspace. | 03:48 |
| Diopter | Oh! Well hello there. lol :D | 03:48 |
| QRPIKE | haha nice | 03:48 |
| QRPIKE | I just got hired to Google, although I would love to be working on this stuff, so much fun | 03:48 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: Cool. What team? | 03:49 |
| roaet_ | QRPIKE: congrats! google is a great place to work. | 03:49 |
| roaet_ | (but so is rackspace) | 03:49 |
| roaet_ | <_< >_> | 03:49 |
| Diopter | haha | 03:49 |
| uictamale | QRPIKE: Is ganeti still being worked on as far as you know? | 03:49 |
| QRPIKE | I haven't moved out there yet. | 03:49 |
| Crush147 | Q is over in enterprise apps something | 03:49 |
| QRPIKE | Im still in Atlanta, GA. Moving to Mountain View at the end of this month | 03:49 |
| uictamale | gothca | 03:50 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: Awesome. Mountain View is a crazy campus | 03:50 |
| QRPIKE | Diopter - u are AMAZING | 03:50 |
| QRPIKE | it worked | 03:50 |
| Diopter | :D | 03:50 |
| uictamale | drove by that area when I visitied california.. looks like an amazing place to live and work | 03:50 |
| Diopter | Glad to hear it! | 03:50 |
| roaet_ | Diopter: woop. Time to try a reinstall of my VM! | 03:51 |
| QRPIKE | I have 1 more question If I may | 03:51 |
| QRPIKE | Is it possible to over provision resources in openstack ? | 03:51 |
| Diopter | Yep | 03:51 |
| QRPIKE | like If I wanted my VM density to be 125% etc | 03:51 |
| QRPIKE | is there any specific config options to set? | 03:52 |
| Diopter | Lots. The default scheduler filters by RAM and not cores for deciding host fullness, though. | 03:53 |
| Diopter | You can adjust that weight, as well as adjust the RAM allocation ratio, for instance | 03:53 |
| Diopter | And there are multiple schedulers | 03:53 |
| QRPIKE | So on a 1 - 10 how hard would u say it is? | 03:54 |
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| uictamale | Do I understand things correctly that the only thing I have to install on my "other" physical machines is the nova controller for me to use them as additional resources for spinning up more VMs? | 03:54 |
| Diopter | Not very? | 03:55 |
| QRPIKE | lol | 03:55 |
| Diopter | uictamale: Well you need nova-compute, and you might need/want nova-network, depending on your networking moode | 03:55 |
| Diopter | -o | 03:55 |
| uictamale | Gotcha - I'm hoping to use a portion of the 'real' IP pool for all the VMs | 03:55 |
| uictamale | if that makes sense | 03:55 |
| uictamale | so, physical machines occupy x.y.z.10-15 | 03:56 |
| Diopter | It does. Though, Nova isn't really designed for that as the common case. | 03:56 |
| uictamale | VMs will get x.y.z.20-50 | 03:56 |
| Diopter | Without using floating IPs. | 03:56 |
| uictamale | yeah I saw floating IPs mentioned, I'll look into them more specifically. | 03:56 |
| Diopter | You'll need to add the network you want to use to nova's database, add it to the conf file | 03:56 |
| uictamale | so for that use case, I need nova compute and nova network on all 5 machines? | 03:57 |
| uictamale | I think I got it in the conf file correctly | 03:57 |
| Diopter | Then you'll need to specify a DMZ for a network you want to route it to/from | 03:57 |
| Diopter | (so networking doesn't fall back to the default outgoing SNAT [routing_source_ip in nova.conf]) | 03:57 |
| uictamale | gotcha | 03:58 |
| uictamale | thanks | 03:58 |
| uictamale | what about taking advantage of the disks? | 03:58 |
| uictamale | I haven't even made a separate partition or lvm group yet | 03:58 |
| Diopter | nova-compute will use local storage by default, on the host it's on. | 03:58 |
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| uictamale | ohh | 03:58 |
| Diopter | If you make use of nova volumes, that's different. | 03:58 |
| uictamale | hmm.. not sure what I need. Each of my physical boxes has a single 500gb drive that I put LVM on | 03:59 |
| uictamale | expecting up to 20 VMs, each with maybe 10gb instance store | 03:59 |
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| Diopter | Sounds reasonable. | 04:00 |
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| uictamale | so would recommend nova volumes? | 04:00 |
| Diopter | Depends on what you want to do with your instances :P | 04:01 |
| uictamale | run some stuff? | 04:01 |
| uictamale | haha | 04:01 |
| uictamale | it's a dev environment for our complete stack | 04:01 |
| uictamale | several databases, a few java apps, some middlewareish stuff, a few UIs | 04:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032890 in nova "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose only supports nova zone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032890 | 04:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032891 in nova "euca-describe-availability-zones verbose only supports nova zone" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032891 | 04:16 |
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| Diopter | uictamale: Sounds like you wouldn't really need volumes | 04:17 |
| uictamale | yeah, i just read a little more about them - sounds like overkill | 04:18 |
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| uictamale | I just want to make sure the nova-compute process uses each of servers' disks | 04:18 |
| Diopter | Then LVM or RAID them. | 04:19 |
| Diopter | Or both. | 04:19 |
| uictamale | sounds good to me. Alright thanks everyone.. I'm pretty happy with myself for getting to the point I could make VMs in the web interface within a day. Good job to all those who helped with the docs. | 04:22 |
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| Diopter | :D | 04:25 |
| Diopter | Enjoy | 04:25 |
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| roaet_ | Diopter: the install worked fine. The little vmware hack did it. | 04:53 |
| Diopter | woot! | 04:53 |
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| Diopter | Always nice to have success. | 04:53 |
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| QRPIKE | So devstack works properly? | 05:03 |
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| Diopter | Sure should. | 05:04 |
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| trygvis | is it possible to see the user_data that was entered when an instance was started? | 09:08 |
| koolhead17 | trygvis, i dont know if i understood correctly but isn`t cloud-init handles if your using ubuntu | 09:15 |
| trygvis | I meant on the nova side, I can't remember what user data I started the instance with | 09:16 |
| trygvis | I'm having issues with the image itself that it doesn't give itself the right IP | 09:17 |
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| koolhead17 | trygvis, check nova.conf for the configuration | 09:37 |
| trygvis | it's not in nova.conf | 09:38 |
| trygvis | I meant for a VM | 09:38 |
| koolhead17 | and also /var/log/nova for related logs | 09:38 |
| koolhead17 | also /var/lib/instances/instance-id/logs | 09:38 |
| koolhead17 | might help | 09:38 |
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| trygvis | I wonder why I'm not getting a proper iptables configuration for 169.254.169.254 | 10:23 |
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| melmoth | trygvis, is nova-api running on the compute node ? | 10:59 |
| trygvis | yep, it's a all-in-one setup | 10:59 |
| melmoth | hmmm | 10:59 |
| melmoth | no idea then. sorry ;) | 10:59 |
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| trygvis | it used to be | 11:00 |
| trygvis | but the point in the code that does the setup, is not executed anymore | 11:00 |
| melmoth | well... "what did you change since last time it worked" seems a sensible question :) | 11:00 |
| trygvis | the problem is that I've never gotten anything to work fully | 11:01 |
| melmoth | hehe | 11:01 |
| trygvis | it's hard to tell, the db keeps on getting fucked up | 11:01 |
| trygvis | but right now I've given up on the cloud-init stuff for now, now I need to get my existing dhcp server to stop serving IPs to the VMs | 11:01 |
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| koolhead17 | melmoth, hola | 11:33 |
| koolhead17 | trygvis, are you following some guide? is it a single machine setup? | 11:34 |
| trygvis | single machine, yes | 11:34 |
| koolhead17 | trygvis, k. | 11:35 |
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| melmoth | hola koolhead17 | 11:37 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth, howw are things? any luck with SSL thingii | 11:38 |
| melmoth | it s not supported :) | 11:39 |
| trygvis | hot damn, it actually works once I got the dhcpd to don't give an IP to the kvm images | 11:39 |
| melmoth | code has been remove fro keystone. Rigth now the workaround is to use a third party web app and use keystone as a regular wsgi application innit | 11:39 |
| melmoth | or at least, that s what i have understood. will try out monday | 11:39 |
| koolhead17 | melmoth, k | 11:40 |
| melmoth | meanwhile i think it s time for a short nap :) | 11:40 |
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| koolhead17 | melmoth, :P | 11:42 |
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| QRPIKE | Is it possible to restart all services after a devstack install? | 16:36 |
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| QRPIKE | Anyone have any experience with Atlas LB ? | 20:31 |
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| QRPIKE | For some reason when I setup openstack, the Associate IP always starts with x.x.x.1 when I tell it my network is x.x.x.50/25 ? any ideas? | 20:53 |
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| Diopter | QRPIKE: Because x.x.x.50/25 is in the lower /25 subnet of the /24 supernet | 21:24 |
| Diopter | QRPIKE: I.e., x.x.x.0/24 can be split into x.x.x.0-127/25 and x.x.x.128-255/25 | 21:25 |
| Diopter | So .50/25 -> .0/25, and thus the first valid IP is .1 :P | 21:25 |
| Diopter | Nova's just trying to help you out. (you're welcome) | 21:25 |
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| zykes- | wazzzaaaap | 22:00 |
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| Espen-_- | Hey stackers | 22:09 |
| zykes- | Espen-_-: norsk ? | 22:09 |
| Espen-_- | Yup | 22:10 |
| trygvis | \o | 22:10 |
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| trygvis | hm, sudo nova-rootwrap kpartx -a /dev/nbd15 fails with device-mapper: resume ioctl on nbd15p1 failed: Invalid argument\ncreate/reload failed on nbd15p1\n | 22:49 |
| trygvis | this is probably related (from dmsg): device-mapper: table: 254:0: nbd15 too small for target: start=16065, len=64260, dev_size=80324 | 22:50 |
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