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| context | so, nexentastor might not be the best option | 00:53 |
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| edude03 | Afternoon ladies and gents | 00:59 |
| edude03 | So I want to setup Openstack on a server with a single nic using devstack, anything I need to do to get single nic working | 00:59 |
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| edude03 | ? | 00:59 |
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| tix | edude03 | 01:07 |
| tix | lolz | 01:07 |
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| edude03 | Glad I'm funny :) | 01:07 |
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| lipinski1 | any reason why a DHCPOFFER wouldn't get to a VM? | 01:23 |
| lipinski1 | I see dnsmasq receiving a DHCPDISCOVER and sending a DHCPOFFER, but the VM does not see the DHCPOFFER | 01:23 |
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| context | wtf ! do people actually use NexentaStor ? i turn it on after installing it a week ago, and i cant do shit on it | 01:54 |
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| edude03 | context why not? Locked you out? | 01:58 |
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| context | edude03: it refuses to respond to anything, nms is a pile of crap | 02:00 |
| context | it worked fine when i installed it and the day after. turned it off for a week, turn it on, it takes 5 minutes to respond to a request (literally) | 02:01 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034212 in quantum "Quantum client should refresh keystone token" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034212 | 02:01 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034216 in nova "Flag use_virtio_for_bridges not works when use LibvirtOpenVswitchDriver" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034216 | 02:15 |
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| edude03 | Sorry to hear that context | 02:35 |
| edude03 | Hmm what's the best way to install openstack for production? Crowbar? Something else? | 02:36 |
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| tix | TESTICLES | 02:44 |
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| lipinski1 | issues with DHCP. dnsmasq is responding ti DHCPDISCOVER with DHCPOFFER. But, VM is not getting it. Could there be something wrong with the bridge device? | 04:09 |
| tix | lol | 04:09 |
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| alex88 | gtirloni, morning, thanks for the memo of yesterday! i've just checked and the vm on the other host, has 50 as await, seems more reasonable value | 07:15 |
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| kviiri | Just out of curiosity, how many of you use Quantum? | 07:24 |
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| halfss | hi,is there anyone use openstack+flatdhcp+kvm+virtio+windows2003? | 07:25 |
| alex88 | kviiri, nope, until multi_host is supported | 07:26 |
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| melmoth | wow ! the blog post on vlan manager is published http://www.mirantis.com/blog/openstack-networking-vlanmanager/ | 07:35 |
| melmoth | let s the coffee flow ! | 07:35 |
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| catbot | anybody has experiences for setting deltacloud to connect openstack? | 07:36 |
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| koolhead17 | catbot: deltacloud would be a better place | 07:41 |
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| alex88 | koolhead17, o/ | 07:42 |
| koolhead17 | hola alex88 | 07:43 |
| koolhead17 | hi melmoth | 07:43 |
| melmoth | hola | 07:43 |
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| uksysadmin | morning peeps | 07:43 |
| alex88 | how's going koolhead17 ? | 07:43 |
| davidthesolution | hello | 07:44 |
| koolhead17 | davidthesolution: hi there | 07:44 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: am good. look who is here uksysadmin | 07:44 |
| koolhead17 | :) | 07:44 |
| uksysadmin | catbot, I had a brief look at it and couldn't get it going - can't remember now, it could even have been that the code wasn't ready! (~3 months ago) | 07:44 |
| alex88 | yeah read some posts about him :) | 07:44 |
| * uksysadmin is in da house! | 07:45 | |
| koolhead17 | alex88: whats new from your side | 07:45 |
| alex88 | bad news, finished configuring openstack, now it's fully working, except that in one host, the vm has 700 as await in iostat and a simple apt-get install varnish takes minutes | 07:46 |
| alex88 | that's strange because host has 12 as await | 07:46 |
| alex88 | you? any good' | 07:46 |
| uksysadmin | alex88, I was like that "bad news, finished configuring openstack, now it's fully working" - where's the fun when its not working!? ;-) | 07:46 |
| alex88 | uksysadmin, eheh, the fun is later when the boss pretends it to be working :) | 07:47 |
| catbot | uksysadmin,the comment from deltacloud.com says I should set API_provider, but no comment about how to do that. thanks anyway. | 07:48 |
| koolhead17 | alex88: :P | 07:48 |
| uksysadmin | alex88, that's been by ruse all along - "Honestly its working... well apart from x... oh and y... and well, that will be next release..." ;-) | 07:48 |
| uksysadmin | catbot, I intend to revisit it - I've just got no headspace to do it at the moment | 07:48 |
| alex88 | uksysadmin, i don't think that'll be enough :) | 07:49 |
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| alex88 | someone has an idea about that await time? | 07:49 |
| uksysadmin | catbot, I'll be happy to hear of experiences of it | 07:49 |
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| alex88 | is there a way to run kvm instances using disk cache instead of none? | 07:51 |
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| uksysadmin | alex88, how loaded is the host where that instance is running from? do you spin up a number in quick succession? | 07:52 |
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| alex88 | uksysadmin, host as await of 12, load is 6 atm, but an average of 5% on each cpu | 07:53 |
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| alex88 | btw i just started a new vm, load is now 3.5 | 07:54 |
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| uksysadmin | alex88, when it does all its disk copying, I've seen hosts momentarily struggle - are the boxes good spec? | 07:55 |
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| alex88 | uksysadmin, disk is a raid1 created with mdadm on 2 hdd, hosts are 16gb, i7 cpu | 07:55 |
| alex88 | btw, await is 38 r_await and 740 w_await | 07:56 |
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| alex88 | on host1 vm r_await is 16 and w_await is 183 | 07:59 |
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| alex88 | but on hosts, values are ~15 | 07:59 |
| alex88 | both | 07:59 |
| uksysadmin | is your box swapping at all? how big are the instances and how many do you have on a host? | 07:59 |
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| alex88 | uksysadmin, host1 has 1vm, with 0 additional disk, 512mb ram, 1vcpu, 2nd host has 1vm, 2vcpu, 2gb ram, 40gb additional disk | 08:04 |
| alex88 | tried to lunch another tiny vm on host2, same thing | 08:04 |
| uksysadmin | hmm - I can see your predicament then... these should fly. | 08:05 |
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| uksysadmin | and you're using hardware vt? [I know - I'm sorry - just checking...] | 08:05 |
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| Madkiss | Can I specify flag-files for OpenStack components elsewhere than in /etc/nova/nova.conf? | 08:06 |
| alex88 | this is the host http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex4s and this is the cmdline command http://pastie.org/4410664 | 08:06 |
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| Madkiss | I'm asking because I think this could be a good way to work around nova-volume's stupidity when it comes to failover capabilities | 08:07 |
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| EmilienM | Madkiss: How do you see the failover in nova-volume ? | 08:10 |
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| Madkiss | EmilienM: well, on a very simple level, the main problem currently is that starting nova-volume on nodeb will not export any volumes that were exported while it was running on node a, right? | 08:12 |
| Leseb | I think the failover breaks the iscsi session? right? | 08:14 |
| alex88 | uksysadmin, and no, no swap at all, 12gb ram free | 08:14 |
| EmilienM | that's why I was thinking about multi pathing | 08:14 |
| Leseb | if you use the default driver of course | 08:14 |
| EmilienM | but not sure this feature is in nova | 08:14 |
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| Madkiss | Leseb: of course it does. | 08:19 |
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| uksysadmin | alex88, was that the command line that openstack used to spin up the instance? | 08:24 |
| EmilienM | Leseb,Madkiss: Do you have another idea for failover the iSCSI session ? | 08:25 |
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| alex88 | uksysadmin, it's http://pastie.org/4410664 | 08:26 |
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| Leseb | EmilienM: don't use the nova.volume.driver.ISCSIDriver? :p More seriously I know there is a RA for iSCSI but I never tested it | 08:28 |
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| alex88 | but, i rebooted the nodes, http://pastie.org/4410740 seems ok now :S | 08:28 |
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| Madkiss | Leseb, EmilienM: Generally speaking, the iSCSI stuff for Pacemaker works nicely (it was written by florian haas anyway), but I don't see how that relates to nova-volume? | 08:32 |
| Leseb | it depends, which driver do you want to use? | 08:33 |
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| EmilienM | Leseb: I tried nova.volume.nexenta.volume.NexentaDriver with multi-pathing enabled | 08:35 |
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| Leseb | Madkiss: if you want to use the nova.volume.driver.ISCSIDriver, a way or another you need to keep your iSCSI session reliable. This could be a nova internal mechanism or maybe managed by pacemaker. At this point of time we can try to think about a nova/cinder integration but for non-folsom or non-grizzly users try to think on a possible workaround with the current driver | 08:35 |
| Leseb | EmilienM: I know the option, but never tested it. Each failover scenario are truly dependent on the driver in use :) | 08:36 |
| EmilienM | I think the best way is to try, isn't it ? | 08:37 |
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| EmilienM | I've read that cinder will be Fault-Tolerant & HA | 08:39 |
| EmilienM | Leseb: Do you mean that we need to find a solution for setup with Essex ? | 08:40 |
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| Leseb | definitely, I think there is enough ESSEX deployment to keep an eye on it | 08:42 |
| Leseb | EmilienM : on which side? for which driver cinder will be HA? | 08:43 |
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| EmilienM | Leseb: no idea | 08:47 |
| Leseb | where did you read this? | 08:47 |
| * EmilienM reading http://etherpad.openstack.org/FolsomHighAvailability | 08:47 | |
| EmilienM | "Nova-volume is currently hard to make HA" | 08:48 |
| Leseb | it is | 08:48 |
| Madkiss | nova-volume unfortunately isn't the most intelligent piece of software ever written ;) | 08:48 |
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| EmilienM | I'm going to try Essex + nova-volume with Nexenta Driver on two servers + Nexenta Appliance + nova-volume-ra + Pacemaker | 08:50 |
| koolhead17 | EmilienM: why so? | 08:50 |
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| uksysadmin | sorry alex88 hard to tell from here - *maybe* do a memcheck of the host? | 08:53 |
| alex88 | uksysadmin, i'll do, btw, thanks for that, i hope this will be a permanent solution, but i don't think so | 08:55 |
| uksysadmin | alex88, get the source code for chaosmonkey - that will reboot your nodes for you periodically - job sorted ;-) | 08:56 |
| alex88 | and i say to my boot, if the service is offline, it's just a maintenance cron job :) | 08:56 |
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| catbot | uksysadmin, I got my deltacloud worked with openstack, this link would be helped http://mariosandreou.com/deltacloud/2012/02/23/deltacloud-openstack_v2API-driver.html | 09:01 |
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| uksysadmin | catbot, nice one. | 09:07 |
| zynzel | any idea/solution how to fix security group src address? ;) | 09:08 |
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| zynzel | if you spawn 2 instances on one physical node, and in security group src address enter floating-ip | 09:08 |
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| zynzel | they dont work (src nat in postrouting, security group in input) | 09:08 |
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| mgalkiewicz | Hi openstack reports that one instance is Shutoff but virsh list shows it. The rest of instances on the same node are ACTIVE. It is possible to ping it. Nova compute log: https://gist.github.com/3293842 | 09:47 |
| mgalkiewicz | I am using xen via libvirt. | 09:47 |
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| alex88 | hi guys, i've this vm that sits here http://pastie.org/4411130 on vnc i just see the cursor and no login screen, ssh gives refused | 10:33 |
| alex88 | oh, just needed to wait :D | 10:33 |
| oneiroi | Hi all, quick question possible to create a local install of openshift for poc / experimentation? | 10:35 |
| oneiroi | nm just remembered where the docs are :D | 10:35 |
| oneiroi | http://openshift.redhat.com/community/wiki/build-your-own | 10:36 |
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| melmoth | hu,what is openshift ? | 10:40 |
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| oneiroi | wrong channel ... | 10:41 |
| * oneiroi headdesk | 10:41 | |
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| oneiroi | PaaS system I'm reviewing atm, good for jailing web apps from what I can see | 10:43 |
| p3N74d4v1D | hehe melmoth the cloud is going mad | 10:45 |
| kviiri | How should I create a Quantum network so virtual machines would realize that they're not supposed to be using VLAN 4095 | 10:45 |
| melmoth | works here (tm) :-) but i have 2 nics on computes nodes. | 10:45 |
| kviiri | starting to get on my nerves... | 10:46 |
| p3N74d4v1D | hehe ok, I was talking about openshift :P | 10:46 |
| p3N74d4v1D | many applications of could are coming out | 10:46 |
| kviiri | Could Computing! | 10:47 |
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| melmoth | no idea kviiri :-( Btw , talking about vlan, who is using vlanmanager ? i m wondering if compute nodes needs also 2 nic on this case, or if one just flag packet on eth0 for floating and static networks. | 10:47 |
| p3N74d4v1D | btw melmoth do you have different physical servers | 10:48 |
| p3N74d4v1D | or thay are all running on a single main server? | 10:48 |
| melmoth | well... i do all my stuff in kvm vms. | 10:48 |
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| melmoth | so they are different servers (1 manager, 1 messaging, 3 computes nodes); but they are all hosted on one signle real bare metal box | 10:49 |
| alex88 | melmoth, i'm using it | 10:49 |
| melmoth | it makes no sense, except i can play and learn. but it s not usefull otherwise | 10:49 |
| oneiroi | melmoth heard you like KVM, so he put a kvm in your kvm so you can openstack while you openstack | 10:50 |
| oneiroi | /endpun | 10:50 |
| melmoth | alex88, so, how do you do for compute nodes ? eth0/eth1 or eth0.101 eth0.102 ? | 10:50 |
| p3N74d4v1D | lol oneiroi | 10:50 |
| melmoth | hehehe | 10:50 |
| alex88 | melmoth, we've hosted servers, eth0 is public facing internet, eth1 is private network | 10:50 |
| melmoth | ok. | 10:51 |
| alex88 | melmoth, but give a try to vde, it's a virtual switch that you can attach to instances and then manage tagging, ports etc | 10:51 |
| melmoth | ohhh vde ? never heard of it. i did play with openvswitch but failed to to what i wanted | 10:51 |
| * melmoth google vde | 10:51 | |
| alex88 | to me vde was much easier | 10:52 |
| oneiroi | quick OPenVZ question; anyone using it, and what if anything does it offer over KVM ? | 10:53 |
| oneiroi | I see it's in use by DBaaS but I can't think why atm (still reading) | 10:55 |
| zynzel | oneiroi: no virtualisation overhead. | 10:55 |
| zynzel | one kernel for all vms. | 10:55 |
| zynzel | but openstack dont support openvz :) | 10:55 |
| oneiroi | zynzel, not directly, but DBaaS (red-dwarf openstack project) does use it. | 10:55 |
| alex88 | oneiroi, can i pm you? | 10:56 |
| oneiroi | alex88, sure | 10:56 |
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| zykes- | alex88: openvswitch is easy... | 11:04 |
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| oneiroi | melmoth, out of curiosity what's the spec of that baremetal box? | 11:09 |
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| melmoth | oneiroi, 70G of ram, 24 Xeon 3.07GHz :) | 11:12 |
| * oneiroi dowant | 11:12 | |
| oneiroi | home lab consists of i5 16GB, Amd neo 4gb ram; i5 6gb ram atm ... | 11:13 |
| oneiroi | exploring infniband options atm... | 11:13 |
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| koolhead17 | oneiroi: don`t tell me you have a mini datacentre at home :) | 11:14 |
| oneiroi | koolhead17, sort of | 11:14 |
| oneiroi | as far as selffunded setups go ;-) | 11:15 |
| oneiroi | if I could run KVM on my s3 and nexus 7 I'd include those too :P | 11:15 |
| koolhead17 | well out of my budget to call it self funded TBH :) | 11:15 |
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| oneiroi | koolhead17, collected over several years and infiniband atm is cheap ... with the exception of the cabling | 11:16 |
| oneiroi | infiniband card can be picked up for ~£30 but that's about the same cost per meter for the cables xD | 11:16 |
| oneiroi | so exploring it atm; no commitment ;-) | 11:17 |
| oneiroi | Though the intel knights corner ... gimme gimme gimme gimme | 11:18 |
| oneiroi | going to be waaaay out of my price range I'd imagine though | 11:18 |
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| alex88 | zykes-, i found vde easier :) | 11:21 |
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| alex88 | is there a way to change the cache mode of kvm? | 11:23 |
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| zykes- | alex88: caching how ?= | 11:38 |
| alex88 | zykes-, disk cache in the kvm command line | 11:39 |
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| alex88 | actually it runs with id=drive-virtio-disk0,format=qcow2,cache=none | 11:39 |
| alex88 | and i want to change that cache=none | 11:41 |
| zykes- | alex88: can't that be done in the libvirt xml template that's generated ? | 11:42 |
| alex88 | dunno, where are them? | 11:42 |
| alex88 | oh, nm found them | 11:43 |
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| alex88 | well, yeah that can be done too.. but the cache=none is a libvirt default or nova? | 11:43 |
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| zykes- | alex88: I think it's the template | 12:00 |
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| alex88 | zykes-, is there a default template somewhere? | 12:01 |
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| zykes- | ok so the template xml has a cachemode variable | 12:06 |
| zykes- | dunno where nova has it set but | 12:06 |
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| alex88 | yeah, or maybe is there a default xml template in libvirt that nova just modifies later with virsh edit | 12:07 |
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| alex88 | but i'm not sure about that | 12:07 |
| zykes- | vishy: maybe knows ;p | 12:07 |
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| alex88 | let's see :) | 12:13 |
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| coolj | alex88: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/virt/libvirt/connection.py#L255 | 12:16 |
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| alex88 | thanks coolj so none is apparently the best mode | 12:37 |
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| kviiri | I hope I'm not annoying anyone with my constant Quantum issues but we've managed to fix the vlan id so it won't be filtered by the switch... now our dnsmasq isn't responding to the DHCP requests | 13:13 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034377 in nova "Answer given by TerminateInstances is not compatible with EC2 api" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034377 | 13:16 |
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| lipinski1 | Why would a VM send an ICMP port unreachable on a DHCP offer from dnsmasq? | 13:16 |
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| lipinski1 | (and the ICMP unreachable is note making it back to the host) | 13:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034384 in nova "Quotas functionality seems broken in Nova" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034384 | 13:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034385 in openstack-ci "pypi mirror update script done broke" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034385 | 13:30 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034386 in openstack-ci "vcsrepo module doesn't notify on updates" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034386 | 13:30 |
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| alex88 | kviiri, have you killed dnsmasq and restarted nova-network? | 13:54 |
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| kviiri | Yeah, quite a few times :P | 13:55 |
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| alex88 | kviiri, no other ideas :S i'm not using quantum.. have you tried to use tcpdump to check? | 14:04 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034401 in nova "Compute restart causes period of network ‘blackout’" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034401 | 14:15 |
| swinchen | Can nova-volume scale to multiple nodes? | 14:17 |
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| swinchen | In diablo I see iscsi_ip_prefix, but that was deprecated ... so I am not exactly sure how to scale | 14:20 |
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| notmyname | rosco_: get an answer about memcached yet? there is no "supposed to" value. use whatever you have. | 14:21 |
| melmoth | swinchen, yes you can attach a nova volume block device from any vm. | 14:23 |
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| melmoth | swinchen, i have a iscsi_ip_address setting on essex | 14:24 |
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| swinchen | melmoth: but can I have multiple instances of nova-volume running? Or at the very least is there a way to have storage on a different node that is used by nova-volume? right now server1 has nova-volume running with disk-image for storage, but I am running out... somehow I would like to add storage from another node. | 14:25 |
| melmoth | ohhh. | 14:26 |
| melmoth | i dont know :) | 14:26 |
| swinchen | Thanks all the same. I am sure it must be possible... otherwise that wouldn't scale so well :) | 14:26 |
| melmoth | in theory you can still add a remote iscsi block device to your nova-volume node, add those in nova-volumes vg and re exporet them in iscsi to vm | 14:27 |
| melmoth | not sure it s a good idea as far as effectiveness is concerned :) | 14:27 |
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| swinchen | melmoth: that would be done outside of openstack right? using tgtadm and the lvm tools correct? | 14:29 |
| swinchen | I am very new to iscsi :/ | 14:29 |
| melmoth | i dont know iscsi well neither, but yeah. | 14:29 |
| melmoth | actually, that s how nova volume works. | 14:29 |
| melmoth | it just export some logical volumes as block device to remote vm client boxes. | 14:30 |
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| melmoth | so it needs block device to do so...and you can use an external iscsi target to plug new block devices on your nova-volume nodes. sounds stoopid, but it should work | 14:30 |
| melmoth | (actually, i had one install working this way, just for the fun of it. I have no idea what kind of performances you can expect from such a setting) | 14:31 |
| alex88 | swinchen, you have nova-volumes lvm group for nova-volume? | 14:31 |
| swinchen | alex88: yes. | 14:31 |
| alex88 | because i was searching a way to do what you're trying to do | 14:31 |
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| alex88 | but haven't found yet | 14:31 |
| alex88 | and never managed iscsi | 14:31 |
| Leseb | you should look for multi path iscsi | 14:32 |
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| swinchen | I think I might make a post on the mailing list to see if there is a recommended way... it seems like something stack should have built in so it can scale easily. | 14:32 |
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| swinchen | thanks Leseb, I will take a look into that. | 14:35 |
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| Leseb | swinchen: np | 14:36 |
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| ijw | Anyone had any issues gettng to 169.254.169.254 from a VM in an standard Essex install of openstack? | 14:38 |
| ijw | iptables looks right, but port 80 isn't responding. | 14:38 |
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| rosco_ | notmyname: Thnx | 14:40 |
| swinchen | hmmm, my other option would be to put the nova-volumes.img on an nfs mount. hmm | 14:40 |
| zynzel | swinchen: you can have multiple nova-network services. | 14:41 |
| zynzel | on different physical nodes | 14:41 |
| zynzel | ijw: check if you started nova-api-metadata | 14:41 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: I am not exactly sure what that means. I could have multiple nova-volume services running? But each node can only "know" about one of those correct? It seems like it would make it quite a pain... | 14:44 |
| lipinski1 | more dhcp help necessary.. My VM is ignoring a DHCPoffer send from dnsmasq, but it accepts it from dhcpd that I started/configured manually. | 14:44 |
| lipinski1 | Looking at packet traces, I see very few differences between the two DHCPOffers. | 14:44 |
| zynzel | swinchen: you have multiple nova-volume | 14:44 |
| zynzel | but each nova-volume know about volumes 'on it' | 14:45 |
| lipinski1 | e.g., TTL 64 vs 128, DiffServ set vs unset, etc. | 14:45 |
| zynzel | but any compute node can attach volume from any other nova-volume | 14:45 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: is this all automated? Would I need to change the prefix on the new node? | 14:46 |
| zynzel | in essex you should change --iscsi_ip_address in volume node | 14:46 |
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| swinchen | Ok, but leave the target_prefix the same? So if I have a bunch of 500GB nova-volumes, I could not create a 1000GB volume for an instance correct? in other words... it doesn't pool? | 14:48 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: iscsi_ip_prefix flag is used only in one line in code, in xenapi | 14:49 |
| zynzel | and yes, you could not create volume 1TB witch many 500GB nodes | 14:50 |
| swinchen | I was thinking of this: iscsi_target_prefix=iqn.2010-10.org.openstack: | 14:50 |
| zynzel | maybe with clvm? but dont use it. | 14:50 |
| zynzel | swinchen: this is only prefix for iscsi names | 14:50 |
| zynzel | there is no need to change it for many volumes. | 14:51 |
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| swinchen | Ok, hmmm... this is going to be a challenge. :/ I think I need to find a different storage method. We have a bunch of nodes with 1TB disks, and some of that used for OS/disk images/etc. But we will want instances with more storage than a single node can provide. | 14:51 |
| zynzel | swinchen: read about ceph rbd | 14:52 |
| zynzel | clvm | 14:52 |
| zynzel | or simply use external array | 14:52 |
| swinchen | Yeah, we have an external array. I think I might use nfs to store a large VG. I will need to talk it over with the other admins I think | 14:53 |
| swinchen | Thanks for the suggestions. | 14:53 |
| zynzel | swinchen: no, you cant use nfs as a nova-volume backend | 14:54 |
| zynzel | it should be block device and nfs isnt | 14:54 |
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| swinchen | zynzel: I was/am going to use nfs to store a disk image that I mount on a loop device which has the nova-volumes volumegroup | 14:55 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034416 in openstack-common "zmq tests should reset config between tests" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034416 | 14:55 |
| swinchen | maybe that is asking for disaster | 14:55 |
| zynzel | probably yes. | 14:56 |
| zynzel | and probably this will be shitty slow | 14:56 |
| file | added points of failure >_> | 14:56 |
| file | and yeah... performance would probably be less than you would like... | 14:56 |
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| swinchen | Yeah, I am too new at this :( I will need to talk it over with other admins and see what they say. I would like a disk array attached to my storage node. | 14:57 |
| swinchen | Thanks for the tips :) I will have to look into some of the suggestions you gave me. | 14:58 |
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| smokes2345 | hey guys, i seem to have an instance that is ... stuck in a 'deleting' state | 14:58 |
| smokes2345 | how do i get rid of it | 14:58 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034418 in nova "meta.js injection fails... tee doesn't like unicode" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034418 | 15:00 |
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| NashTrash | Good morning Stackers | 15:13 |
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| NashTrash | Does anyone know of a ppa or deb out there (that is reasonably trustworthy) for Swift 1.6.0 on Precise? | 15:16 |
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| NashTrash | Or, is there a straightforward way for me to build my own 1.6.0 debs for Precise? | 15:18 |
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| UICTamale | Good morning everyone! Diopter: You'll be pleased to hear after I installed nova-api, python-keystone, and python-keystoneclient, then changed the nova.conf to use localhost for ec2_api, new instances made on my node02 FINALLY came up with everything they needed! | 15:26 |
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| Diopter | UICTamale: woot! | 15:27 |
| Diopter | Congrats | 15:27 |
| UICTamale | Thank you! | 15:27 |
| UICTamale | I'm still not completely out of the woods yet though - now I need to figure out why I can't reach those VMs from any host other than node02 | 15:27 |
| Diopter | Can't reach them from node01? | 15:28 |
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| UICTamale | Correct | 15:28 |
| UICTamale | But I can reach VM 1 from node02 | 15:28 |
| UICTamale | and VM 1 from my laptop over its floating IP | 15:28 |
| Diopter | What about if you try: ping -I br100 <vm2> from node1? | 15:28 |
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| Diopter | Or, actually, ping -I br100 <node1's br100 IP>, first | 15:29 |
| UICTamale | second one works | 15:29 |
| UICTamale | trying first | 15:29 |
| UICTamale | destination host unreachable | 15:29 |
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| Diopter | Can you pastebin me "ip a; ip r; brctl show" on node1? | 15:31 |
| Diopter | I'm thinking you just have a routing issue on the node1 side | 15:31 |
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| UICTamale | pmd | 15:32 |
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| notmyname | NashTrash: ya, I should be able to help with that | 15:43 |
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| NashTrash | notmyname: That would be great | 15:54 |
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| notmyname | NashTrash: looking for links.... | 15:55 |
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| notmyname | NashTrash: hm..I'm not finding what I was hoping. I see a source package for quantal, but not precise (mtaylor: ttx: why?). There's also 1.6.0 binary packages for lucid at https://github.com/rackspace/swift_debian | 15:59 |
| NashTrash | notmyname: Yeah, I have found quantal packages but nothing anywhere for Precise | 15:59 |
| ttx | notmyname: I think they are still working on the PPA that will serve as staging ground for the Ubuntu Cloud Archive | 16:00 |
| ttx | zul: ^? | 16:00 |
| zul | ttx: cloud-archive is not ready yet | 16:01 |
| zul | ttx: soon though....soon (tm) | 16:01 |
| ttx | Basically they will backport the Folsom version of Swift (1.6.1 ?) to Precise... but they were also planning to ship the milestones/versions in a PPA to test them before landing in the archive | 16:01 |
| ttx | zul: is the PPA still planned ? | 16:02 |
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| zul | ttx: we are still waiting for some bits but we are close | 16:02 |
| ttx | notmyname: we outsourced our testing PPA maintenance to the Ubuntu folk rather than trying (and failing) to maintain it inside openstack | 16:02 |
| ttx | zul: cool | 16:02 |
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| NashTrash | ttx: zul: notmyname: Sounds like things are in process. Is there any sense of how long? I.e. should I try to build a deb myself in the meantime? | 16:05 |
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| zul | NashTrash: i dont have a time for you, i would build the package yourself | 16:06 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034453 in tempest "Remove server quotas whitebox tests and replace them with tests using the quota API " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034453 | 16:06 |
| Md | ttx: hi, reed says that I should bother you with a couple of questions :-) | 16:06 |
| Md | ttx: does openstack nowadays support booting from a persistent block device? i.e. I want to persistently attach an arbitrary LVM device (which I can manage myself, if needed) to an instance | 16:06 |
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| ev0ldave | from an attached volume through nova-volume? yes | 16:09 |
| Md | ev0ldave: my doubt is: can the volume be a generic block device? | 16:10 |
| NashTrash | zul: Ok. Thanks. Do you happen to know of any documentation on building your own Swift deb? Sorry, me be noob in the land. | 16:10 |
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| zul | NashTrash: nope standard way | 16:10 |
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| NashTrash | zul: Ok. Thanks. | 16:10 |
| ev0ldave | Md: i'm not sure, you can give nova-volume a generic block device but it will further break that down for it's own use | 16:11 |
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| mtaylor | notmyname: reading scrollback | 16:13 |
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| mtaylor | ah. ok. sorted | 16:14 |
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| reed | mtaylor, you may be able to help Md, too | 16:15 |
| reed | mtaylor, <Md> ttx: does openstack nowadays support booting from a persistent block device? i.e. I want to persistently attach an arbitrary LVM device (which I can manage myself, if needed) to an instance | 16:15 |
| Md | ev0ldave: also, I do not understand if the volume will appear to the guest as a block device or if the guest will have to internally mount it using iSCSI | 16:15 |
| ev0ldave | it will appear to them as a block device | 16:16 |
| mtaylor | Md: nova volume will give you a block device | 16:16 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034462 in openstack-manuals "Simple Scheulder should be Simple Scheduler " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034462 | 16:16 |
| ev0ldave | it is persistent so you can move the data from instance to instance | 16:16 |
| ev0ldave | and horizon provides a gui interface for booting from it | 16:17 |
| edude03 | hey ev0ldave I was supposed to ask you to point me to some install scripts, do you have some for me? | 16:17 |
| edude03 | I gave devstack a shot (even though I want to use it in 'production') but it barfed on a clean 12.04 install | 16:17 |
| ev0ldave | edude03: http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2012/03/28/screencast-video-of-an-install-of-openstack-essex-on-ubuntu-12-04-under-virtualbox/ | 16:18 |
| Md | mtaylor: OK. can I use nova volume to make an arbitrary block device of the host become a disk of the guest or will nova want to manage everything in the host by itself? | 16:18 |
| edude03 | and I doubt I screwed up typing ./stack.sh :P | 16:18 |
| context | well... that was easier than expected | 16:18 |
| Md | mtaylor: for various reasons I use dedicated PVs/VGs per customer | 16:18 |
| ev0ldave | it will need some tweaking based on your environment, if you need any help just ask | 16:18 |
| Md | also, do I still need to setup swift if I am not going to use it to store system images and boot the instances from persistent nova volumes? | 16:19 |
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| edude03 | ev0ldave OK, I'm going to kick off a rebuild of the server, should I still make a nova-volumes VG? | 16:20 |
| Md | I see that the nova documentation keeps mentioning iSCSI, but my goal is to NOT use it and directly use my own LVM volumes. or at least something managed by openstack on my FC LUNs | 16:21 |
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| ev0ldave | edude03: nova-volume isn't really included in any of the scripts, but it is easy enough to setup. I would if you plan on using it | 16:22 |
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| ev0ldave | Md: nova-compute mounts the volumes using iscsi | 16:22 |
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| edude03 | Also, I'm setting this up on a rented dedicated server (don't have an extra metal here unfortunately) so the range I'm using for VM ips should they be public IPs or private, and if private are they used inside the server only? | 16:23 |
| Md | ev0ldave: from where? I bring my storage directly to each compute node | 16:23 |
| ev0ldave | nova-volume serves to each node via iscsi. there is a way to run it locally on each compute node but it still needs iscsi to bridge the gap | 16:23 |
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| Md | this is a bit of showstopper for me, I am not going to kill performance by adding iSCSI | 16:24 |
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| ev0ldave | let me find the alternative for you that uses local storage on each node, but i believe it still does iscsi | 16:25 |
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| ev0ldave | edude03: vms get private, if you dont have a router or want openstack to handle external IPs then you will need to add the public IP space to nova.conf | 16:26 |
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| ev0ldave | i dont use floating IPs personally as the cloud i use is for a dev shop only | 16:26 |
| Md | ev0ldave: related: how much does openstack depend on quantum? my model requires a distinct VLAN per customer with real public IPs on the servers. can I just create instances connected to an arbitrary VLAN in the host and the manage routing/firewalling by myself? | 16:27 |
| ev0ldave | you can, nova-network is just there to provide it for you if you want | 16:27 |
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| ev0ldave | i dont use nova -network for anything but creating the bridge interface for me. all my dhcp and routing come from active directory and an F5 LB | 16:28 |
| Md | great. do you still have to install a nova-network node for this? | 16:29 |
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| ev0ldave | md: http://openstackgd.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/add-support-for-local-volumes-in-openstack/ | 16:30 |
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| Md | vishy: hi, do you mind scrolling back a bit? bcwaldon says I should ask you about this stuff :-) | 16:30 |
| context | now to get image service to use nova-volume | 16:31 |
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| ev0ldave | i have nova-network on each compute-node | 16:31 |
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| edude03 | ev0ldave OK, so in my case what I need is basically for each VM to get an IP from the pool of IPs my provider gives me, what's the best way to do that? | 16:32 |
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| ev0ldave | md: you dont have to. you can create the bridges yourself if you want and setup iptables. nova-network just makes it easier and automates the process when new instances are spun up | 16:33 |
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| ev0ldave | edude03: setup your instances to have floating IPs auto assigned, that script i pointed you to sets that up by default | 16:34 |
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| ev0ldave | you will pass the floating ip network that your ISP provides as the floating ip range | 16:35 |
| edude03 | OK | 16:35 |
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| Md | edude03: the features described in the openstackgd blog may be ok, are they upstream or is this an addon? | 16:36 |
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| ev0ldave | md: that is third party from griddynamics | 16:39 |
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| ev0ldave | i use another of their addons, nova-dns, but had to heavily modify it for our use. i have not tried that one yet | 16:40 |
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| ijw | Grr, I still can't get packets to my metadata server... | 16:45 |
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| Md | can I use stock openstack to directly use iSCSI storage from a SAN? | 16:57 |
| melmoth | Md what do you mean by "directly use" ? | 16:58 |
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| melmoth | there s a nova-volume service that let you export some iscsi lv to remote virtuals machine | 16:59 |
| Md | melmoth: my SAN exports iSCSI LUNs and I make them available to nova volume to create pools | 16:59 |
| Md | melmoth: no, the point is that I already have somethign which exports iSCSI volumes | 16:59 |
| Md | melmoth: I just want to use these iSCSI block devices as storage pools | 17:00 |
| melmoth | if your nova-volume beahave as an initiator of your san, it will have access to the remote block device as if they were local. | 17:00 |
| ev0ldave | i use open-iscsi | 17:00 |
| melmoth | it can then use them to build a nova-volumes vgs, and use this space to act as a target for virtuals machines | 17:00 |
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| ev0ldave | md: i use open-iscsi to create local block storage for gluster and another for nova-volume group | 17:01 |
| ev0ldave | that is setup outside of openstack | 17:01 |
| Md | melmoth: I am not sure I understand. what I meant is "can the compute node be the iSCSI initiators for my SAN?" | 17:01 |
| ev0ldave | md: openstack just uses the block device once it is there | 17:01 |
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| Md | ev0ldave: but as we discussed earlier, I would need that third party add on to use a local block device | 17:02 |
| Md | so I am still confused :-/ | 17:02 |
| melmoth | hmmm. Md, once they have booted, i guess they can , as long as there s a network access to your san. | 17:02 |
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| melmoth | but if you want the thing to be handled with nova command, i guess you need to have the bloc device managed by nova-volumes | 17:02 |
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| Md | melmoth: actually I *want* to have block devices managed by nova-volumes, because this way I could use the on-board hardware initiators of my blade servers... | 17:03 |
| Md | melmoth: but ev0ldave says that I cannot directly use local block devices as persistent guest block devices | 17:03 |
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| melmoth | all i know is, if you want your block devices attached with some nova-command, then they must comes from the nova-volume node (being the target) | 17:05 |
| melmoth | but this node itself can have access to them from a remote target | 17:05 |
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| Md | melmoth: yes, I do not want to use intermediate nova-volume nodes since my compute nodes have access to the SAN | 17:05 |
| ev0ldave | md: the openstack uses iscsi to attach a volume to instances whether it is local or not. that addon ii sent you allows the storage to be local on the compute node instead of having to be local on the nova-volume server. from what i read it does . the addon i sent you allow the instance to attach to the local block device but has caveats as listed in the blog | 17:06 |
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| ev0ldave | with that add-on, you do not need nova-volume but your volume is forever attached to the instance, at that point you might as well just provision the instance with the storage you need | 17:07 |
| Md | "forever attached to the instance" is exactly what I need :-) | 17:07 |
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| Md | I do not understand the "just provision the instance with the storage you need" part | 17:08 |
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| ev0ldave | have the instance storage attached to your SAN and create the flavors with the space you need | 17:09 |
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| Md | ev0ldave: this was my first question actually. so openstack can just use a local block device as the instance boot disk? | 17:09 |
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| ev0ldave | :-/ doh | 17:10 |
| ev0ldave | yes | 17:10 |
| ev0ldave | ha | 17:10 |
| ev0ldave | i have /var/lib/nova/instances mounted to a gluster accross my compute nodes, which uses iscsi attached to san as storage | 17:11 |
| ev0ldave | that way i can do live migrations of instances between nodes and have redundancy | 17:11 |
| ev0ldave | sorry | 17:11 |
| Md | my SAN is locally available to all compute nodes, which have built in hardware FC and iSCSI initiators. so everywhere I turn on an instance it will find the storage | 17:12 |
| Md | wait, does openstack support live migrations? I was told by canonical that it does not | 17:12 |
| ev0ldave | it does | 17:12 |
| ev0ldave | i use it to rebalance nodes periodically via cron | 17:12 |
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| Md | this is seriously embarassing | 17:12 |
| ev0ldave | http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 17:13 |
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| ev0ldave | not sure if it was in diablo, but it is in essex | 17:13 |
| Md | essex would be fine for a start | 17:14 |
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| Md | but trunk too... I understand that the next release is scheduled for october and I would need a few months anyway to understand everything and plan moving the customers | 17:14 |
| ev0ldave | sorry about that, i for some reason read your question as can i boot from an attached volume | 17:15 |
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| Md | ev0ldave: OK, so the difference is that an attached volume usually comes over iSCSI, while local storage could be anything? | 17:15 |
| ev0ldave | yes | 17:16 |
| Md | \o/ | 17:16 |
| UICTamale | hey all, is anyone here using floating IPs on a local network? | 17:16 |
| UICTamale | and if so, do you define any static DNS for them or does dnsmasq take care of it? | 17:16 |
| Md | Do I still need to setup swift if I do not need it for storage of server images? (we already have our own S3-compatible object storage) | 17:17 |
| ev0ldave | no | 17:17 |
| ev0ldave | i dont use swift | 17:17 |
| ev0ldave | since i have a 7 TB msa i just use the raid on that | 17:17 |
| ev0ldave | what i lose not using swift is the redundancy of multiple proxy servers | 17:18 |
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| Md | ev0ldave: proxy servers for what? I do not understand | 17:18 |
| ev0ldave | md: the proxy servers are what the users/glance talks to. you can have as many as you like and loadbalance them or setup as failover | 17:18 |
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| ev0ldave | if you dont need it to be HA then you dont need it | 17:20 |
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| ev0ldave | or you can write a plugin for glance to use your own S3 store | 17:21 |
| Md | you mean glance? I already have my own method to provide the system images | 17:21 |
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| ev0ldave | right | 17:21 |
| ev0ldave | you have all this stuff already, 75% there to your own cloud | 17:22 |
| Md | I already have my own cloud with 2k guests on it :-) | 17:22 |
| Md | my problem is that it was developed in house when there was no alternative to vmware, and we would like to move to something with a community behind it to share development | 17:23 |
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| lipinski1 | Anyone know if there is a dnsmasq and/or udhcpc channel? | 17:25 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034506 in horizon "Shouldn't be able to attach an already attached volume" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034506 | 17:26 |
| UICTamale | libinksi1: I'm thinking the same thing lol | 17:26 |
| context | any sort of help/readme on getting glance image service to use nova-volume for storage ? | 17:26 |
| swinchen | phew. ceph rbd is a beast. | 17:27 |
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| edude03 | I shouldn't have a problem running everything on one box with one mic for testing / getting started right? | 17:27 |
| ev0ldave | edude03: no | 17:28 |
| ev0ldave | context: nova-volume does not work that way. nova-volume is for attaching space to instances | 17:28 |
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| context | ev0ldave: so images have to be stored locally on the server running glance ? | 17:30 |
| ev0ldave | context: or in swift | 17:30 |
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| ev0ldave | swift is S3 compatible storage service | 17:32 |
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| context | ev0ldave: i have two machines running nova, another running nexentastor, with nova-volume connected to nexentastor, how would i go about storing images on the san | 17:32 |
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| ev0ldave | i currently have my /var/lib/glance mounted to lun on a san | 17:33 |
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| context | kk thats what i was thinking just mount a share on the nas | 17:34 |
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| context | san* | 17:34 |
| context | meh either way | 17:35 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034513 in tempest "Add Cinder Tests for Volume snapshots" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034513 | 17:50 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034518 in tempest "Add Cinder Tests for Volume Attachments" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034518 | 17:50 |
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| context | whats everyone here use for volume storage, im considering abandoning NexentaStor but still want to use zfs | 18:12 |
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| UICTamale | anyone with floating IPs and multi-host nova-network here? I can only reach my VMs via floating IPs on ONE of my compute nodes.. the controller. VMs on my other hosts are only reachable via the private IP.. very stuck. | 18:19 |
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| swinchen | what is the correct procedure for rebooting a node? | 18:25 |
| alex88 | swinchen, reboot ;) services and vm should be restarted on boot on normal configuratons | 18:25 |
| amti | pull the plug off and pray about thre rest? :P | 18:26 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034536 in python-novaclient "hypervisor-show does not allow show by hostname" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034536 | 18:26 |
| swinchen | alex88: that is the problem... my instances didn't start :( | 18:26 |
| alex88 | swinchen, have you already rebooted? | 18:26 |
| swinchen | alex88: yes | 18:26 |
| alex88 | has they state "shut off"? | 18:26 |
| swinchen | alex88: suspended | 18:26 |
| alex88 | oh, that's strange :) btw, try resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=true and start_guests_on_host_boot=true | 18:27 |
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| swinchen | alex88: I suspended the instance before rebooting | 18:28 |
| alex88 | swinchen, so it's correct | 18:29 |
| alex88 | it just resume the guest state that was before reboot | 18:29 |
| UICTamale | anyone seeing internet issues? | 18:29 |
| alex88 | what do you expected? | 18:29 |
| alex88 | UICTamale, yeah, just received some mails about our site down, but here it works fine | 18:29 |
| alex88 | so something weird somewhere | 18:29 |
| swinchen | alex88: it won't resume, I have tried that already. No errors in the logs either :/ | 18:29 |
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| alex88 | swinchen, try reboot | 18:30 |
| alex88 | the instance | 18:30 |
| swinchen | alex88: ERROR: Cannot 'reboot' while instance is in vm_state suspended (HTTP 409) | 18:30 |
| alex88 | oh…no idea then sorry :/ | 18:30 |
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| swinchen | Grrr, I think it might have something to do with iscsi/tgtadm | 18:32 |
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| swinchen | Oh man, this is a bad day. | 18:36 |
| alex88 | mine too | 18:36 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034547 in nova "notification for the instance metadata change is missing " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034547 | 18:46 |
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| swinchen | hmm, I think I found why it is not starting: 2012-08-08 18:48:11.251+0000: 5433: error : qemuSetupDiskPathAllow:82 : Unable to allow access for disk path /dev/disk/by-path/ip-10.20.0.1:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-00000001-lun-1: No such file or directory | 18:48 |
| swinchen | that is from libvirt.log | 18:49 |
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| swinchen | any idea what is going on there? | 18:51 |
| ev0ldave | nova-volumes on the host server not running? | 18:51 |
| ev0ldave | or, open-iscsi not running on the compute node | 18:51 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: it is | 18:51 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: it is | 18:52 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: sorry, I should say both are running. | 18:52 |
| ev0ldave | output of nova volume-list | 18:53 |
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| swinchen | | 1 | attaching | testing | 1 | None | | | 18:55 |
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| swinchen | I wonder if there is a way to dettach and remove that volume. | 18:57 |
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| ev0ldave | how about your nova-volume.log | 19:00 |
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| swinchen | ev0ldave: just a lot of : Connected to AMQP server on cloudy-priv:5672 | 19:01 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: no warnings or errors | 19:01 |
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| ev0ldave | that seems odd to me, wondering if you message ever made it to rabbit | 19:02 |
| ev0ldave | Running periodic task VolumeManager._publish_service_capabilities | 19:02 |
| ev0ldave | that is what my log fills with | 19:03 |
| swinchen | Hmmm, I don't see any of those. Mine barely has anything in it, but I just set it up before rebooting. I wanted to see what would happen before we go live. I am glad I did this. | 19:04 |
| ijw | What's the format of the arguments for secgroup-add-rule ? | 19:05 |
| swinchen | I am not sure where to go from here... is there a way to track the message to rabbit? | 19:06 |
| ev0ldave | on your instance node make sure an iscsi session is there: iscsiadm -m session | 19:07 |
| swinchen | iscsiadm: No active sessions. | 19:08 |
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| swinchen | Do I have to recreate the session? | 19:09 |
| ev0ldave | no, openstack does that | 19:09 |
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| ev0ldave | tells me that either port 3260 is blocked on nova-volume server or the message never made it to the compute node via amqp | 19:10 |
| swinchen | hmm, I am almost to the point of dropping the nova table and restarting. But that wouldn't be a very good learning experience. | 19:10 |
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| swinchen | This is all one server. | 19:10 |
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| swinchen | it is so strange. it worked before the reboot | 19:12 |
| ev0ldave | see if nova-compute.log has the rpc call to tell it to attach | 19:12 |
| ev0ldave | looks like this: 2012-08-08 19:09:06 DEBUG nova.rpc.amqp [-] received {u'_context_roles': [u'swiftoperator', u'Member', u'admin'], u'_context_request_id': u'req-28499e7b-84f1-4810-aa2e-f8a0ddf53dc9', u'_context_read_deleted': u'no', u'args': {u'instance_uuid': u'75632c40-602a-49f1-a3ee-86d332f63c9b', u'mountpoint': u'/dev/vdc', u'volume_id': u'5'}, u'_context_auth_token': '<SANITIZED>', u'_context_is_admin': True, u'_context_proj | 19:12 |
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| Jules_ | Hi folks | 19:13 |
| ev0ldave | hmm, also. nova-manage service list | 19:13 |
| ev0ldave | make sure they're all happy | 19:13 |
| ev0ldave | hi | 19:13 |
| swinchen | 3260/tcp open iscsi | 19:14 |
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| swinchen | oooo ev0ldave 2012-08-08 15:08:38 ERROR nova.rpc.common [-] Timed out waiting for RPC response: timed out | 19:15 |
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| swinchen | 2012-08-08 15:07:38 ERROR nova.rpc.common [-] Failed to declare consumer for topic '46231116915d47d5beef4e6f8dc0a4fe': Socket closed | 19:15 |
| Jules_ | anybody ever had problems with vnet interfaces which used by vm's. mine getting no ip attached on the host side (within the vm network/internet works). when i manually attach the dhcp ip to the vnet device, all seems okay an i can ping the vm's from public and internal ip. | 19:15 |
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| context | hmm im trying to add an image to glance but get http error 500, nova image-list returns error 500 as well | 19:16 |
| swinchen | Holy crap, a lot of errors | 19:16 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1032405 in nova "RBDDriver does not support volume creation from snapshots" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1032405 | 19:16 |
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| context | nm fixed it | 19:19 |
| context | forgot admin_token in glance-registry conf | 19:19 |
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| ev0ldave | rabbitmqctl list_consumers | 19:21 |
| context | starting up my first instance | 19:21 |
| ev0ldave | swinchen: are those both from nova-volume.log or nova-compute? | 19:22 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: nova-compute | 19:22 |
| ev0ldave | it seems nova-volume is having trouble connecting to it as well. can you spin an instance? | 19:23 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: http://paste2.org/p/2098924 | 19:23 |
| swinchen | ev0ldave: yes, I can start an instance. | 19:25 |
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| swinchen | all up and runnign with a public IP and everything. Why would my suspended image be causing such trouble? | 19:27 |
| ev0ldave | not sure, i haven't had this issue before | 19:28 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: check compute/manager.py | 19:28 |
| zynzel | and init function | 19:28 |
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| zynzel | creating iscsi session after start (reboot nova-compute) was bugfixed | 19:28 |
| zynzel | maybe you have old version. | 19:29 |
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| swinchen | hmmm, I will check. Do you know if the bugfixes were pushed to essex stable in 12.04? | 19:30 |
| zynzel | dunno, dont use stable essex. | 19:30 |
| swinchen | Ok, how can I manually terminate an instance... I am going to go into mysql and clean this up :( | 19:30 |
| zynzel | best solution is to delete instance with api. | 19:31 |
| zynzel | not in db. | 19:31 |
| zynzel | if you have problem, solve it | 19:31 |
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| zynzel | if you dont know what you are doing, hacking db is not good idea. | 19:32 |
| swinchen | I wish I could delete it with the api. It won't let me delete a suspended instance, but I can't resume it. | 19:32 |
| zynzel | so solve problem with resume. | 19:33 |
| context | weee ! i just hosed both nodes | 19:34 |
| swinchen | I have no idea how to fix it. | 19:35 |
| zynzel | swinchen: "/dev/disk/by-path/ip-10.20.0.1:3260-iscsi-iqn.2010-10.org.openstack:volume-00000001-lun-1: No such file or directory" | 19:35 |
| zynzel | create this file? | 19:35 |
| zynzel | and better, log to iscsi, and do waht openstack do with volumens. | 19:36 |
| zynzel | where is your problem? | 19:36 |
| zynzel | every command is in logfile | 19:36 |
| zynzel | you can copy && paste them | 19:36 |
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| zynzel | this is not problem i think? | 19:37 |
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| swinchen | I am not exactly sure how to create that file... I think open-iscsi creates it? I am not an openstack developer so I am not sure I can traverse the code very efficeintly I can try though. | 19:39 |
| zynzel | swinchen: simple spawn new instance | 19:39 |
| zynzel | attach volume | 19:39 |
| zynzel | and tail compute logs | 19:39 |
| zynzel | there are all commands needed to attach volume | 19:39 |
| zynzel | (and create iscsi lun) | 19:40 |
| lipinski1 | Anyone aware of the need to disable tx-checksumming on bridge devices on nodes running nova-compute and nova-network!? | 19:40 |
| swinchen | zynzel: really? my logs are mostly empty. There must be a flag in the config I need. | 19:40 |
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| zynzel | swinchen: so turn on debug. | 19:40 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: no. | 19:41 |
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| lipinski1 | zynzel: Took a full day to find it. udhcpc on a client was sending DHCPDISCOVERs and dnsmasq sending DHCPOFFERs, but the DHCPOFFERs were dropped by udhcpc because of bad UDP checksum. | 19:42 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: and dhcoffer was on eth0 in VM? | 19:43 |
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| zynzel | or it was dropped 'earlier'? | 19:43 |
| GiBa | hi | 19:43 |
| GiBa | anyone using stackops? | 19:43 |
| GiBa | my nova-compute are XXX | 19:44 |
| zynzel | GiBa: check nova-compute logs. | 19:44 |
| GiBa | they are clean | 19:44 |
| zynzel | check system time. | 19:44 |
| lipinski1 | zynzel: dhcpoffer was send from dnsmasq (nova-network) on same host as nova-compute, so the packet simply traversed the bridge and never used the "real" NIC. So, because, by default, bridge devices come up with tx-checksumming on, the UDP checksum was invalid | 19:45 |
| zynzel | GiBa: and you have debug on? | 19:45 |
| GiBa | lts see | 19:45 |
| GiBa | yes | 19:45 |
| lipinski1 | This doesn't occur with dhcpd, nor if the client is dhcpc instead of udhcpc. | 19:45 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: and why you use udhcpc? | 19:45 |
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| zynzel | GiBa: restart compute service | 19:46 |
| zynzel | and paste FULL log. | 19:46 |
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| GiBa | restarted many times... | 19:46 |
| zynzel | and how many time paste full log after that? | 19:46 |
| zynzel | ; | 19:46 |
| zynzel | ;) | 19:46 |
| GiBa | im triying to find something usefull | 19:46 |
| GiBa | heh | 19:46 |
| zynzel | ok, if yours service is XXX | 19:46 |
| GiBa | anyone got the volumes unmounted after booting ? | 19:47 |
| zynzel | probably means you have problem with connecting to mysql. | 19:47 |
| GiBa | i mean booting the host server | 19:47 |
| zynzel | great, now fix your problem. | 19:47 |
| GiBa | i have another instalation, over ubuntu 12 | 19:47 |
| lipinski1 | zynzel: it was the default in our image. | 19:47 |
| GiBa | and after booting the host i cant attach the volumes anymore | 19:47 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: so change image? | 19:47 |
| lipinski1 | zynzel: We had problems with an Ubuntu ISO, and I'm wondering if it was the same problem. | 19:48 |
| zynzel | for example for uec ubuntu images? | 19:48 |
| lipinski1 | we're making the image. It's a custom RHEL VM | 19:48 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: in ubuntu uec iamges, you have dhcp client | 19:48 |
| zynzel | not udhcp. | 19:48 |
| lipinski1 | we wanted a small OS, so were using busybox udhcpc | 19:48 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: wait. | 19:48 |
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| zynzel | you have problem with VM image, and want to disable smth on hypervisor? | 19:48 |
| lipinski1 | I haven't re-tested but our Ubunto 12.04 iso was failing to get a DHCP address from dnsmasq too. | 19:48 |
| zynzel | why? | 19:48 |
| lipinski1 | smth? | 19:49 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: so try official uec image. | 19:49 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: something. | 19:49 |
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| zynzel | if normal uec image will boot without problem | 19:50 |
| zynzel | then you have bad image | 19:50 |
| zynzel | if not, you have 'bad' hypervisor | 19:50 |
| zynzel | then you can fix problem, and now you dont know nothing. | 19:51 |
| zynzel | problem with image? with compute? with network configuration? with hardware? | 19:51 |
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| zynzel | good luck to fix it without knowing where problem is. | 19:51 |
| lipinski1 | zynzel: I would think that since nova uses dnsmasq, it should work with standard dhcp clients. It doesn't if the client is udhcpc and nova-network and nova-compute are on same host, and tx-checksumming offload is enabled. | 19:52 |
| zynzel | lipinski1: ok, and of course you test official uec image? | 19:52 |
| zynzel | maybe it is bug in udhcpc? | 19:52 |
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| lipinski1 | I know exactly where the problem is. The host OS is using tx-checksum offload - so it is not calculating UDP checksums on packets - it's allowing the hardware NIC to do that. | 19:52 |
| lipinski1 | UEC image? | 19:52 |
| ev0ldave | http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/ | 19:53 |
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| Jules_ | lipinski1: are you using virtio nic drivers? | 19:53 |
| lipinski1 | Jules_: yes, virtio_net | 19:53 |
| Jules_ | try it without and it should work | 19:53 |
| lipinski1 | (in the VM) | 19:53 |
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| zynzel | Jules_: i use virtio net and it works great. | 19:54 |
| GiBa | im so frustrated, can you recommend a good instalation setup? | 19:54 |
| GiBa | with the official i couldnt make it work | 19:54 |
| GiBa | the one from hasteaxo neiter | 19:54 |
| lipinski1 | Jules_: I'll work with our guy that builds our image and see if that helps. | 19:54 |
| GiBa | stackops isnt working | 19:54 |
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| Jules_ | i had similar dhcp client problems with my freebsd vm's when i used virtio net drivers. | 19:55 |
| Jules_ | seems like virtio net have a bug somethimes with dhcp | 19:55 |
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| Jules_ | lipinski1: if you getting messages like this: dhclient: 5 bad udp checksums in 5 packets. it might related to virtio net driver | 19:59 |
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| alex88 | gtirloni, i've seen that reboot sets await back to 40-50, after some time it gets back to 700.. i've php running on it and sometimes it takes 20ms to serve a request, sometimes 20000 | 20:00 |
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| lipinski1 | Jules_: we had to complie a special udhcpc/busybox to enable verbose logging. Then we saw the Bad UDP checksum messages, and udhcpc said it was ignoring those packets. | 20:01 |
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| A-Wal | I have a quick question. Is there any reason to install Swift if all data will be stored on a single machine, and nota swift object storage cluster? | 20:02 |
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| lipinski1 | can I force a nova boot to use a particular nova-compute node? | 20:04 |
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| annegentle | lipinski1: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/differenthostfilter.html is one way to use a different host | 20:07 |
| lipinski1 | annegentle: just found that :). Thanks, I was trying the force_host hint, but that was not working | 20:08 |
| annegentle | A-Wal: no reason to install swift on a single machine unless you're a developer | 20:09 |
| annegentle | A-Wal: the point of swift is redundant backups more or less | 20:09 |
| A-Wal | Ah, thanks. And if we upgrade in the future, can Swift be integrated without redoing everything from scratch? | 20:10 |
| ev0ldave | A-Wal: yes | 20:10 |
| A-Wal | Nice, thanks. | 20:11 |
| lipinski1 | annegentle: different_host is not working either. It's putting it on the same host as the instance I pass to the different host filter | 20:11 |
| lipinski1 | I have two nodes running nova-compute. It constantly puts VMs on the same one. | 20:11 |
| lipinski1 | service list shows nova-compuete happy on both | 20:12 |
| annegentle | lipinski1: force_host or force_hosts? See http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/specify-host-to-boot-instances-on.html | 20:12 |
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| lipinski1 | annegentle: force_hosts. | 20:13 |
| lipinski1 | Just tried it again. | 20:13 |
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| smokes2345 | hey guys, nova keeps asking libvirt about a domain that doesn't exist, then nova dies, what do i do? | 20:13 |
| lipinski1 | In scheduler.log it says that both hosts pass filters, so it goes with the first one. | 20:13 |
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| swinchen | Ok, I was bad and completely dumped my nova table... but I am back and up and running. :/ I think part of my problem was I ran some of the "disaster recovery steps" | 20:22 |
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| lipinski1 | Anyone know what an RPC timeout from qpid means in network.log? | 20:27 |
| swinchen | Is there a specific order services should start? | 20:27 |
| lipinski1 | 2012-08-08 15:21:49 ERROR nova.rpc.impl_qpid [-] Timed out waiting for RPC response: None | 20:27 |
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| alex88 | coolj, yo sent me this afternoon the link where the images set disk cache to none? | 20:34 |
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| ewindisch | lipinski1: it means that an RPC call was made, but the receiving end never responded. | 20:39 |
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| ewindisch | the receiver died, it took too long processing, etc. | 20:40 |
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| lipinski1 | ewindisch: It seems like compute it trying to talk back to the controller for network. That fails. The RPC call error is in network.log. | 20:40 |
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| lipinski1 | I'm not sure what nova-network is trying to do via RPC...? | 20:41 |
| ewindisch | Exceptions /should/ make it back to the caller, especially in Folsom and possibly in Essex. However, I've seen cases where missing method exceptions might not make it back to the caller, if a method is not implemented in a specific driver. | 20:41 |
| lipinski1 | Note: This is happening when I create VMs on other compute nodes (not the controller). | 20:41 |
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| context | i keep getting this error trying to bring up an instance: | 20:43 |
| context | 2012-08-08 15:42:26 TRACE nova.rpc.amqp libvirtError: Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported | 20:43 |
| context | but both vlan_interface and public_interface are set to br0 | 20:43 |
| context | is there someone in the database its pulling eth0 or something ? | 20:44 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034593 in nova "resize broken when not allowing same host" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034593 | 20:45 |
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| warik | hello, i am getting this error when launching an instance: if ret is None:raise libvirtError('virDomainDefineXML() failed' | 20:47 |
| warik | anyone? | 20:47 |
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| context | pastie.org the surrounding stuff | 20:47 |
| warik | context: http://pastie.org/4414068 thanks | 20:48 |
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| context | wow... debug logging looks pretty useless. not sure whats going on :x | 20:50 |
| warik | i am under virtual-box (qemu style) | 20:51 |
| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034595 in nova "compute_api.resize() sends stale model to compute" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034595 | 20:51 |
| warik | yes, really not sure about what is going on | 20:51 |
| Diopter | context: Check your nova network entry in the database. It specifies a bridge interface | 20:51 |
| context | which table | 20:51 |
| Diopter | context: See if it's specified in nova-manage network list | 20:52 |
| Diopter | Or networks list, I always forget | 20:52 |
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| context | diopter: doesnt show interface | 20:52 |
| context | just network ranges | 20:52 |
| context | nova-manage config list | grep eth shows nothing | 20:53 |
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| context | does show br0 though as it should | 20:53 |
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| context | i DID have it set to eth0 but i rebooted them after changing nova.conf | 20:54 |
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| Diopter | context: Doh, was thinking of something else. Probably helpful to pastie your nova.conf | 20:55 |
| Diopter | Maybe also "ip a; ip r; brctl show" | 20:56 |
| Diopter | To make sure things are where they should be | 20:56 |
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| context | sec | 20:57 |
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| lipinski_ | In nova.conf is multi_host only a directive for nova-network? | 20:58 |
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| Diopter | lipinski_: Should be | 20:58 |
| context | diopter: http://pastie.org/4414115 | 20:58 |
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| lipinski_ | ok - trying to understand why this darn RPC problem with qpid | 20:59 |
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| Diopter | context: Wow. So... you're using VLANs in Flat networking mode, your public_interface is set to a bridge, you haven't specified a flat_interface, or a fixed range, and you've also set your vlan_interface to the same bridge.... | 21:00 |
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| Diopter | context: What... exactly... are you trying to do? | 21:00 |
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| context | start up a cirros instance | 21:01 |
| Diopter | No. | 21:01 |
| context | my first attempt to just start an instance | 21:01 |
| Diopter | Networkingwise. | 21:01 |
| Diopter | What are you trying to setup? | 21:01 |
| context | :x | 21:01 |
| Diopter | I see you're probably not sure :) | 21:01 |
| Diopter | Ok. So... one box? Multiple boxes? | 21:01 |
| context | diopter: right now its just eth0, i plan on running a VLAN for the service traffic | 21:01 |
| context | i just wanted to get it running first | 21:02 |
| context | diopter: two machines | 21:02 |
| Diopter | Controller and compute? | 21:02 |
| context | controller i have running compute as well | 21:02 |
| Diopter | Ok. | 21:02 |
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| Diopter | So... I presume you don't want to route your compute node's traffic through your controller | 21:02 |
| context | no | 21:02 |
| Diopter | Then you'll need multi_host=true, which you have. | 21:03 |
| Diopter | Do you want to have dnsmasq run on the hosts and IP VMs? | 21:03 |
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| context | diopter: sure? | 21:03 |
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| Diopter | context: The answer is most likely yes, so you want the FlatDHCP network manager, not just Flat. | 21:04 |
| context | kk | 21:04 |
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| Diopter | context: Then, you'll want to set public_interface = your actual public interface, flat_interface = your actual fixed (VM net) interface if you have a separate one (like the aforementioned VLAN'd subinterface) | 21:06 |
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| Diopter | context: Don't specify any vlan things in nova.conf | 21:06 |
| Diopter | context: If you don't have a separate flat interface yet, then don't specify one. | 21:06 |
| context | kk | 21:06 |
| context | and get rid of vlan_interface ? | 21:06 |
| context | public should be the br0 ? | 21:06 |
| Diopter | Nope. | 21:06 |
| Diopter | That's why I said your *actual* public interface. | 21:07 |
| lipinski_ | Any way to get nova-network to use the IP that's already on a bridge rather than assigning one? | 21:07 |
| Diopter | lipinski_: Flat mode might keep it. But won't route through it, afaik | 21:07 |
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| lipinski_ | Diopter: how does it select the IP from the network to assign to the nova-network host/bridge? In my case, I'm using 10.10.1.0/24. It selects 10.10.1.6 for the host - strange. | 21:08 |
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| context | diopter: gotcha. | 21:08 |
| Diopter | lipinski_: Um... it's just going to come out of the DHCP range, unless you set the dhcp-start up a bit, I think. Haven't looked at that code in a bit | 21:09 |
| lipinski_ | Diopter: the problem I'm having is that my bridge already has an IP. When nova-network assigns it's IP to it, now that's a secondary IP and that causes havoc with dnsmasq. | 21:09 |
| Diopter | lipinski_: So take the IP off your bridge? | 21:10 |
| Diopter | You don't actually have to configure your bridge at all | 21:10 |
| lipinski_ | I can remove my IP and re-add so that the nova-IP is promoted, but that won't persist across a reboot. | 21:10 |
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| lipinski_ | I need my static IP because it is used for testing connectivity between nodes (an outside software). If I could get nova to use the IP that's already on the bridge (or I can specify in nova.conf, or somethign), it would be fine. | 21:10 |
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| lipinski_ | It just seems that nova is trying to be intelligent when the environment is already configured. | 21:11 |
| lipinski_ | I have to set up the bridge because of a former problem related to DHCP with the UDP checksumming. | 21:11 |
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| context | diopter: i still get that error :x | 21:11 |
| Diopter | lipinski_: ... wat? | 21:12 |
| context | gonna restart the whole machine jsut to make sure nothing is lingering | 21:12 |
| lipinski_ | Diopter: what do you mean I don't have to configure my bridge? | 21:12 |
| Diopter | context: Ok | 21:12 |
| Diopter | lipinski_: I mean if you don't statically configure a bridge, nova will create and configure it for you when nova-network runs its ensure_bridge code, which happens when a VM is spawned, for instance | 21:13 |
| lipinski_ | ok - let me try that. But, I'm concerned that it will not adjust the offload parameters correctly on the bridge... | 21:14 |
| Diopter | Well, you can setup your bridge and bring it up without an IP, if you have to for some other reasons. | 21:14 |
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| lipinski_ | I just think it's crazy that nova *must* assign an IP on the bridge. If there is a bridge there, and an IP already on it - that matches the network - why not just use that one. Or, have a nova.conf parameter to specify an IP. IT can look and see it's already there and leave it alone. | 21:15 |
| context | yeah still get bridge eth0 error :/ | 21:16 |
| context | libvirtError: Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported | 21:16 |
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| context | damnit @!#$ | 21:22 |
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| context | http://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/13-networking-in-nova this says FlatDHCP should create a bridge but it doesnt | 21:26 |
| context | mm i probably need to define a floating range | 21:28 |
| UICTamale | context: welcome to exactly where I was yesterday lol | 21:29 |
| context | could have sworn i did that | 21:29 |
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| context | damn you !@# | 21:57 |
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| context | anyone at all know what would be causing this when trying to start up an instance: libvirtError: Unable to add bridge eth0 port vnet0: Operation not supported | 21:58 |
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| alex88 | context, eth0 is a bridge? | 22:05 |
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| context | no | 22:05 |
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| alex88 | so that's the problem | 22:05 |
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| context | heh. yes i get that | 22:05 |
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| context | ive tried replacing flat_interface AND public_interface with br0 | 22:05 |
| context | it still pulls eth0 from /somewhere/ | 22:06 |
| alex88 | you have to re-create network | 22:06 |
| alex88 | that's just the default value | 22:06 |
| alex88 | also check flat_network_bridge | 22:06 |
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| context | well guess im waiting till i get home, i hosed them both :D | 22:10 |
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| context | ill probably setup the vlan tonight so i can have both networks and not worry about anything | 22:19 |
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| warik_ | is there a way ot assign a specific ip to the bridge interface? | 22:31 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034665 in python-novaclient "keyError: images reported by python-novaclient" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034665 | 23:06 |
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| warik_ | since I switch my instances folder to another location I am getting this from the log: if ret == -1: raise libvirtError | 23:07 |
| warik_ | ideas? | 23:07 |
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| uvirtbot | New bug: #1034666 in ceilometer "Remove nova db access for all ceilometer code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034666 | 23:16 |
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| eskp | hi there | 23:21 |
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| context | if im running FlatDHCP i have to manually install dnsmasq ? | 23:21 |
| context | Flat sounds better | 23:21 |
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| eskp | any http://wiki.openstack.org/ admins around? i can't seem to unsubscribe my email address from a wiki page and keep receiving change notifications | 23:21 |
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| context | hmm :x nova-network not coming up on one machine | 23:48 |
| context | err well its running, service list isnt happy though | 23:48 |
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