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context | hmm... | 00:06 |
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context | up and running just need to get floating ip's to work | 00:07 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034692 in nova "remove quantum v1 code" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034692 | 00:55 |
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context | ummm so, how do i get uec-publish-tarball on debian :x | 01:03 |
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UICTamale | when glance complains "not authenticated", what's it looking for? The credentials supplied when you make the mysql database glance, the credentials supplied when you create the glance user with keystone, or the settings in /etc/glance/*paste.ini ? | 01:13 |
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dolphm | UICTamale: probably user credentials for keystone | 01:14 |
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UICTamale | no luck | 01:24 |
UICTamale | I'm 100% sure they match | 01:24 |
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UICTamale | i'll check the inis again | 01:25 |
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WilliamHerry | which table in nova contain floating ip to fixed ip nat mapp? | 01:29 |
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UICTamale | I'm not sure that's in its own table | 01:29 |
UICTamale | fixed IPs have an instance ID, and floating IPs have an instance ID as well | 01:29 |
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WilliamHerry | there is one instance that already deleted but its iptables entry still in there, so when that floating assign to other instance, it will never get to the new instance | 01:31 |
WilliamHerry | I want just delete it use iptables command, but I think it will return when restart nova-compute | 01:31 |
context | can anyone explain how exactly you add the ubuntu uec images into glance | 01:32 |
WilliamHerry | UICTamale, can I just set fixed_ip and floating ip 's instance id to null to delete ? | 01:32 |
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coolj | WilliamHerry: have you tried nova remove-floating-ip <instance id> <floating IP address>? | 01:34 |
WilliamHerry | coolj, Ok, thanks | 01:34 |
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UICTamale | This is what I get when I try to run "glance-manage db_sync" - ValueError: you need to pass either an existing engine or a database uri | 01:57 |
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context | can someone point me to a ubuntu or debian image that works on openstack and how to load it. i got the ubuntu cloudimg to boot but i cant login as any user and the ip dashboard shows is not the ip of the vm | 02:30 |
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networkstatic | here you go context | 02:36 |
networkstatic | wget https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 02:36 |
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networkstatic | glance add name=Ubuntu-12.04 is_public=true container_format=ovf disk_format=qcow2 < precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img | 02:36 |
networkstatic | your image should be around ~200-230 Mb | 02:37 |
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context | kk ill try it again | 02:40 |
context | networkstatic: what user do you login as | 02:40 |
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networkstatic | use the key you create and the user name is ubuntu | 02:41 |
context | kk thats what i was thinking, wasn't working :/ will give it another go | 02:41 |
networkstatic | ie 'ssh -i key.pem ubuntu@192.1.1.1 | 02:41 |
networkstatic | cool check 'nova-manage service list' | 02:42 |
networkstatic | look for smiley faces | 02:42 |
context | yeah its all up and happy | 02:42 |
networkstatic | and 'nova list' | 02:42 |
networkstatic | to see the node you spun | 02:42 |
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context | networkstatic: ahh that works now :D | 02:47 |
context | networkstatic: thnx al ot | 02:47 |
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networkstatic | oh great | 02:49 |
networkstatic | anytime conext | 02:49 |
networkstatic | heya Kool | 02:49 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034730 in nova "qemu-img receives 'None' as source image to snapshot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034730 | 04:11 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034761 in openstack-ci "gerrit: missing patchset bizarroness" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034761 | 06:46 |
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alex88 | morning guys | 07:09 |
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kviiri | Morning | 07:11 |
koolhead11 | hi all | 07:11 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034772 in openstack-manuals "Typo "incldued" should be "included"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034772 | 07:41 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034787 in glance "v2 API image upload doesn't update status" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034787 | 08:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034790 in python-glanceclient "v2 API image-list fails when images without data exist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034790 | 08:36 |
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rosco_ | What is the most common way to offload SSL to your openstack swift cluster setup? I use pound, but i am not happy with the performance. Does anyone have another setup? | 08:46 |
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luc | rosco_: have you try nginx ? we use it (not for openstack but varnish) | 08:51 |
rosco_ | luc: nginx for offloading swift? | 08:55 |
luc | rosco_: yes, varsnish is a proxy, but don't do ssl. We have try pound and nginx, and nginx has better performance (less time to respond when we have a big load) ~15000req/s | 08:56 |
luc | rosco_: i think with swift, it will do the same, even if swift is slower | 08:57 |
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rosco_ | luc: Thanks for your input, i have a proxy server with pound for redirection, but i am not getting more then 2500 requests per sec and with pound using 100% of 1 core. | 09:07 |
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luc | rosco_: well, just configure nginx in reverse proxy, and add support to ssl | 09:09 |
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luc | and for one nginx, you can do load balancing against your swift-proxy server | 09:10 |
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reed | hi koolhead11 | 09:41 |
koolhead11 | reed: hello there | 09:41 |
reed | koolhead11, I'm in Italy at the moment, more compatible timezone :) | 09:42 |
koolhead11 | reed: hehe. yes. how is vacation coming along? | 09:42 |
reed | vacation? | 09:43 |
reed | :) just a different timezone, no vacation so far | 09:43 |
koolhead11 | reed: lol i thought you on holiday :P | 09:43 |
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alex88 | reed, oh italy? where? | 10:42 |
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reed | alex88, northern puglia | 10:43 |
alex88 | oh, near brindisi so | 10:43 |
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p3n74D4v1d | melmoth alive?? | 11:04 |
melmoth | yep | 11:10 |
melmoth | p3n74D4v1d, whats up ? | 11:11 |
p3n74D4v1d | hehe my setup is working now | 11:15 |
p3n74D4v1d | can't explain what happened | 11:16 |
p3n74D4v1d | so you waddup? | 11:16 |
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* zynzel implement checking checksum in nova-compute for images from glance | 11:18 | |
zynzel | hu! | 11:18 |
koolhead11 | livemoon: morning :) | 11:19 |
koolhead11 | melmoth: hola | 11:19 |
melmoth | hola | 11:20 |
p3n74D4v1d | melmoth: whats up?? | 11:20 |
melmoth | p3n74D4v1d, tired, had a lug meeting last night.. went back 2am. ENOSLEEP | 11:20 |
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melmoth | but, a guy gave me good doc on how ot use vde, so i m on my way to simulate vlans in my kvm sandbox. | 11:20 |
melmoth | well... it s just that today, my brain works sooo slowly :) | 11:21 |
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SkyMan | Hi Stackers | 11:22 |
SkyMan | i have an openstack on multi nodes | 11:22 |
SkyMan | and i am trying to access a vm a compute node using noVNC | 11:22 |
SkyMan | but i can't | 11:23 |
SkyMan | does the noVNC have to installed on the compute node too ? | 11:23 |
SkyMan | or it can be just put in the controller node | 11:23 |
SkyMan | ! | 11:23 |
p3n74D4v1d | melmoth: take a break :P | 11:23 |
zynzel | SkyMan: only on controller node | 11:23 |
SkyMan | then i think the 6080 port is blocked on the compute node | 11:24 |
SkyMan | right zynzel ? | 11:24 |
SkyMan | zynzel: ? | 11:27 |
p3n74D4v1d | is it possible to configure glance to store only snapshots | 11:27 |
p3n74D4v1d | on swift?? | 11:28 |
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melmoth | no idea, i only use "images" on glance. but there s a way to create images from a running vm (and its simple) | 11:31 |
melmoth | then, as far as glanc is concerned, swift is just a backend. it does not change it s beahviour compared to when it s using a local fs | 11:31 |
zynzel | SkyMan: 6080 should be open only on controller node | 11:31 |
zynzel | on compute you shuld have configured libvirt | 11:31 |
SkyMan | èmmm | 11:32 |
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SkyMan | I can't access ubuntu cloud images, it keeps on asking me for passwords ! | 11:38 |
SkyMan | although i am using a private key :( | 11:38 |
SkyMan | does anyone know the password ? | 11:39 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: check nova-compute logs | 11:49 |
zynzel | for injectin keys | 11:49 |
zynzel | and check logs from instance for cloud init | 11:49 |
SkyMan | zynzel: thx man | 11:49 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: the key injection seems fine | 11:59 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: so paste how you log && output | 12:03 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: what do i paste ?? the key got injected, there is no need for password | 12:12 |
SkyMan | but it still asking for pass ! | 12:12 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: so paste output from ssh command you use. | 12:12 |
zynzel | full output. | 12:12 |
SkyMan | ? | 12:13 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: check this out http://pastebin.com/EKzveV5t | 12:14 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: ssh -i key user@ip | 12:14 |
zynzel | output from this command. | 12:14 |
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SkyMan | I diiiiid but it is asking for a password !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 12:15 |
zynzel | can you paste this command and output? | 12:15 |
zynzel | or not? | 12:15 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: okay | 12:17 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: http://pastebin.com/AiRryimR | 12:18 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: so now paste log from nova-compute.log after spawning instance. | 12:19 |
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phschwartz | Where are logs for the dashboard stored? I don't think the error I am seeing in the apache logs are the reason for failure. | 12:27 |
melmoth | phschwartz when i need debug i change /etc/openstack-dashboard/local_settings.py so that DEBUG is set to true | 12:29 |
melmoth | and then i have them.. well.. directly on the generated web page | 12:30 |
melmoth | (as well as in /var/log/syslog if i remember correclty, or was it apache's error_log ?) | 12:30 |
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phschwartz | melmoth: ty so much. That simple change allowed more logging so I can see that my memcache server was refusing connections. | 12:32 |
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phschwartz | Now to working with my vm's. | 12:32 |
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phschwartz | My instance was asigned an ip (displayed in dashboard and nova list), but upon starting it seems to have not setup the ip for eth0. I looked at network.log and compute.log and I didn't notice any errors. Is there anything else I can look at to see what is going on? | 12:40 |
phschwartz | Also, is it better to have 2 ip pools, public ips for floating and private ip's for the internals? | 12:40 |
phschwartz | I have it setup using only the public ip's at the moment. | 12:40 |
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phschwartz | Also note, I have just verified (by cleaning all logs), that I am indeed not getting any errors. | 12:51 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: http://pastebin.com/uzSRzax9 | 12:54 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034890 in horizon "'Delete container' doesn't delete the objects in it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034890 | 13:06 |
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melmoth | oneiroi, was it you who mentionned vde the other day ? If so, do you happen to have a kvm vm using a vde switch right now ? | 13:17 |
melmoth | if so, i would be curious to have a look at the dumpxml of this vm | 13:17 |
oneiroi | melmoth, don't recall using vde | 13:22 |
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melmoth | ok. may be was it you then alex88 ? | 13:22 |
oneiroi | melmoth, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/ ? :) | 13:22 |
melmoth | huhu | 13:22 |
melmoth | thanks | 13:22 |
melmoth | ahhh, it was alex88 after all :) | 13:23 |
alex88 | melmoth, that was me ;) | 13:23 |
alex88 | btw, actually i'm not using vde directly into vm, just on hosts | 13:23 |
melmoth | ah ok. | 13:23 |
melmoth | too bad :) | 13:23 |
melmoth | i have some doc that mention how to do what i need, but they run kvm vm with kvm directly, or some wrapper | 13:24 |
melmoth | i wonder if it can be cleanly fitted within a libvirt xml file | 13:24 |
melmoth | well, let s dig. | 13:24 |
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alex88 | melmoth, as soon as you have the vm device you have just to plug them into the switch | 13:30 |
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alex88 | vm eth devices aren't tap interface? so just use "vde_plug2tap -d -s /tmp/vde1 veth0" | 13:31 |
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rosco_ | luc: Just implemented nginx on our proxy | 13:33 |
rosco_ | We get better performance now | 13:33 |
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luc | rosco_: cool ! | 13:33 |
rosco_ | arround 3000 req per sec | 13:33 |
rosco_ | Still not extremely mutch, but better :) | 13:34 |
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rosco_ | I see that the swift-proxy processes are shooting up to 100% cpu | 13:34 |
luc | rosco_: you must add more proxy-server ;) | 13:34 |
rosco_ | luc: Wel, we are going to compile the swift proxy with pypy to get more performance | 13:35 |
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phschwartz | to use FlatDHCPManager, do I have to define flat_interface. I only have one active interface and it has an ip. I tried it with it set and it caused my system to become unaccessable due to eth0's ip being changed. | 13:39 |
phschwartz | Here is the network config I tried. http://paste2.org/p/2099828 | 13:39 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: With one interface, FlatDHCP will make a bridge, put the if in it, and move the IP to the bridge. It shouldn't actually Change it, though, unless you're trying to use the same range for public as fixed, or something. | 13:40 |
phschwartz | diopter: The ip of the box is 10.173.16.1, when I tried to bring up a node, it changed the ip to 192.168.16.1 and made it unaccessable. | 13:41 |
phschwartz | I was able to get nodes booting with public and fixed in the same network 10.173.16.0/24. But I couldn't get eth0 to come up in the instances so I was trying a few changes. | 13:42 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: Don't specify flat_interface, and you need to actually Set fixed_range to the fixed range. | 13:43 |
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Diopter | Really not sure what nova's going to think by you merging those networks. | 13:43 |
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Diopter | Unless you go into the database and reserve the IPs you're using | 13:43 |
UICTamale | Good morning all. I'm slowly rebuilding everything (more carefully this time) | 13:44 |
UICTamale | Run into a lot of config issues but I think I have them mostly all sorted out | 13:44 |
phschwartz | diopter: I have a script that reserves the ip's. | 13:44 |
UICTamale | I'm at the point where I'd like to make a project with nova-manage, but before doing that, I tried nova-manage user list and was surprised to see nothing | 13:44 |
UICTamale | are nova users different from keystone users? | 13:45 |
phschwartz | Only issue I would run into with it that way is each compute node takes up 2 ip's on the network. | 13:45 |
Diopter | phschwartz: Of course. Because Nova thinks it's going to have a public and private in FlatDHCP mode. Single-NIC will work because it will bridge appropriately (and move the public IP for you) | 13:45 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: But if your 'public' is in your fixed network, it probably doesn't know how to move it right. Though, if you set fixed_range appropriately, it might very well understand. | 13:46 |
Diopter | (not setting fixed_range should be why you got 192.168.16.1) | 13:46 |
phschwartz | Diopter: The fixed range is set. look at the paste. | 13:48 |
phschwartz | The range is set in that attempt that changed the interface to 192.168.16.1, the fixed_range=192.168.16.0/24 | 13:48 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: But you said you wanted to use 10.173.16.0/24, which is what I mean by "not being set appropriately" :P | 13:49 |
Disconnect | finally back to openstack :) | 13:49 |
phschwartz | I said that when I had it set that way, I was able to get it to spawn nodes with out hosing my networking, but I couldn't figure out why the interface in the instances would not come up. | 13:50 |
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phschwartz | I switched to a sperate fixed_range to try and fix the issue, but it has hosed my networking. | 13:50 |
Diopter | phschwartz: Ok, start over. Do you need your fixed network to be the same as your public? Is that what you want? | 13:50 |
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Disconnect | is devstack a reasonable way to get started? it will be an enterprise setup but so long as we don't have to take a ton of outages I can migrate/change it at will | 13:50 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: I just prefer something that works. I started with public and fixed being the same. | 13:51 |
UICTamale | Disconnect: It's a good way to learn your way around openstack | 13:51 |
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UICTamale | Disconnect: But I'd resign yourself to tearing everything down and starting over anyway - and when you do that, you'll probably want to follow the official docs | 13:51 |
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UICTamale | (for your enterprise setup) | 13:51 |
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Disconnect | hmm. i've got about 10 vms i need to get running in a reasonable amount of time, and then i have time to play.. | 13:52 |
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Disconnect | sounds like might just run them under libvirt/kvm for now and migrate them in later. | 13:52 |
Diopter | phschwartz: FlatDHCP assumes they won't be, particularly with multi_host=true (which you almost always want), and is built around them not being. There's a set of NAT rules built around this, DHCP provides routes to the bridge so it can be a NAT point, etc | 13:52 |
Diopter | phschwartz: If you squash them and reserve carefully, you can make it work, but that's subverting a lot of pieces. | 13:53 |
* Disconnect has too many new moving pieces (storage I've never used, openstack, etc) | 13:53 | |
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Disconnect | ok well lemme get this storage running, server installed, switch configured, etc. i'll figure it out from there. | 13:53 |
Disconnect | UICTamale: thanks :) | 13:53 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: I recommend you use separate ranges (which you are now) and try not setting flat_interface, as a first step. | 13:54 |
UICTamale | NP | 13:54 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: You should be able to expect that when you first spawn a VM, nova-network will create your bridge, put eth0 in it, move eth0's public IP to the bridge and put an IP from fixed_range on it too | 13:54 |
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UICTamale | Bah. I'm totally stuck with horizon. Every time I try to log in I get "Error: Unable to retrieve usage information" | 14:00 |
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phschwartz | diopter: Is there a way to see all ip's associated with a bridge? | 14:10 |
Diopter | phschwartz: ip a | 14:10 |
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Diopter | Unless you mean something else by associated. | 14:10 |
phschwartz | currently eth0 is set to 10.173.16.1 should that ever change when starting nova-network? | 14:11 |
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Diopter | Not when starting, but when you first spawn a VM, for single-NIC FlatDHCP, nova-network's going to run "ensure_bridge", which will make your bridge if it doesn't exist already, put eth0 in it, move eth0's IP to the bridge... | 14:12 |
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Diopter | But if you set flat_interface to the same as public_interface, that original public IP will get blasted | 14:12 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: Reason why I am asking is with the fixed_range seperate from the public and flat_interface not set, be for I lost access to the box, the bridge had the ip 192.168.16.1 and not my public ip. | 14:13 |
phschwartz | would `ip a` show more then one ip assigned to the bridge? | 14:14 |
Diopter | Yes. | 14:14 |
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Diopter | ifconfig is old and deprecated and can't handle multihoming properly. ip (from iproute2) has no such limitation. | 14:14 |
p3n74D4v1d | melmoth can you please share your doc on vde?? | 14:15 |
melmoth | i hope you like french :) | 14:15 |
melmoth | http://chiliproject.tetaneutral.net/attachments/42/Tuto_qemu_vde2.pdf | 14:16 |
melmoth | http://www.tdeig.ch/kvm/pasche/14_Network_VDE_VRRP.pdf | 14:16 |
melmoth | but i m still stuck trying to figure out how to start kvm vm with it | 14:16 |
UICTamale | Ok, I traced my dashboard error into nova-api and found this: | 14:17 |
UICTamale | 2012-08-09 09:13:57 DEBUG nova.api.openstack.wsgi [req-d8523c1e-3b05-47e5-8e87-5b6043645353 da71b82dba9343bea55f0b16b047e646 e0ac70cdacc547859b6f92cb98768655] Unrecognized Content-Type provided in request from (pid=13436) get_body /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py:697 | 14:17 |
UICTamale | 2012-08-09 09:13:57 INFO nova.api.openstack.wsgi [req-d8523c1e-3b05-47e5-8e87-5b6043645353 da71b82dba9343bea55f0b16b047e646 e0ac70cdacc547859b6f92cb98768655] http://10.150.150.21:8774/v2/e0ac70cdacc547859b6f92cb98768655/os-simple-tenant-usage?start=2012-08-01T00:00:00&end=2012-08-09T14:13:57&detailed=1 returned with HTTP 403 | 14:17 |
p3n74D4v1d | hehe melmoth speak french?? | 14:17 |
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melmoth | i am french. | 14:18 |
Diopter | UICTamale: Got Apache installed and running and whatnot..? :P | 14:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | hehe | 14:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | comment tu vas | 14:18 |
melmoth | pas mal :) | 14:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | hehe | 14:18 |
UICTamale | Diopter: Yup, I can see the auth login pag | 14:18 |
UICTamale | Diopter: But as soon as I try to login, I get "Error:Â Unable to retrieve usage information." | 14:18 |
p3n74D4v1d | de quelle region de la france viens tu? melmoth? | 14:19 |
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melmoth | I'm in alsace (strasbourg) | 14:19 |
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p3n74D4v1d | hehe that was english | 14:19 |
p3n74D4v1d | :P | 14:19 |
UICTamale | Shouldn't I be able to get more detailed logging from something? | 14:20 |
phschwartz | does keystone run on port 5000 or 35357 | 14:20 |
UICTamale | Apache error.log is useless | 14:20 |
Diopter | UICTamale: Fun fun. Probably. Meeting'd though. | 14:20 |
dolphm_ | phschwartz: both | 14:20 |
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p3n74D4v1d | melmoth: I thought you were somewhere in california, working from a beach | 14:21 |
p3n74D4v1d | lol | 14:21 |
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p3n74D4v1d | anyways | 14:21 |
dolphm_ | phschwartz: comparison of the calls available on each port http://docs.openstack.org/developer/keystone/api_curl_examples.html#service-api-examples-using-curl | 14:22 |
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melmoth | huhu, nope, just next to the rhine actually :) | 14:22 |
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p3n74D4v1d | I am in germany...but a bit far | 14:22 |
p3n74D4v1d | oops | 14:22 |
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UICTamale | There we go | 14:25 |
UICTamale | Unauthorized: Policy doesn't allow compute_extension:simple_tenant_usage:list to be performed. (HTTP 403) | 14:25 |
UICTamale | So, what's not authorized here? | 14:25 |
Diopter | UICTamale: Weren't you mentioning an issue with not seeing any users earlier? | 14:26 |
UICTamale | Yes, with nova-manage user list | 14:26 |
Diopter | Probably the reason why :P | 14:26 |
UICTamale | but I never had to make a user with nova-manage to log into dashboard | 14:26 |
UICTamale | that login screen seems to match the users created with keystone | 14:26 |
UICTamale | besides, you can't set a password with nova-manage user create | 14:27 |
UICTamale | you only get a secret key and access key | 14:27 |
UICTamale | and to login to the dashboard, you need a password | 14:27 |
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UICTamale | https://answers.launchpad.net/keystone/+question/187203 | 14:29 |
UICTamale | this guy had a similar problem I think | 14:29 |
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UICTamale | sounds like I need to do something like this: >>keystone-manage credentials add admin EC2 'secretword' openstackDemo | 14:31 |
Diopter | Sounds about right. | 14:32 |
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UICTamale | rawr - that command doesn't exist anymore for keystone-manage | 14:32 |
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UICTamale | closest I can see is with standard keystone - ec2-credentials-create | 14:33 |
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dolphm_ | UICTamale: that's the same command | 14:35 |
phschwartz | For some reason after I rebooted the node keystone will not come up. If I run keystone-all directly it states ports in use, but I don't see the ports in a netstat --listen or lsof -i | 14:35 |
dolphm_ | UICTamale: or essex/folsom equivalent | 14:35 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: Try: ss -lntp, as root. It might be listening on :: instead of 0.0.0.0 or whatnot | 14:36 |
phschwartz | http://paste2.org/p/2099895 | 14:36 |
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UICTamale | dolphm_: Ok, sweet - I found the problme. I had SERVICE_TOKEN and SERVICE_ENDPOINT env vars set again | 14:37 |
UICTamale | that's a nasty bug IMO | 14:37 |
UICTamale | https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/949904 | 14:38 |
phschwartz | diopter: ty, someone added a startup script to start unicorn on ::5000. Killed it and now running. | 14:38 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: np | 14:39 |
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UICTamale | dolphm_: OK, adding ec2 credentials helped me finally be able to login to the dashboard. BUT.. as soon as I logged in, I still see "Error:Â Unable to retrieve usage information." in a red box above the "Select a month to query its usage" in the Admin System Panel | 14:40 |
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swinchen | How do all of you handle the storage of instances? Do you have enough storage in the compute nodes to handle the instances running on them, or do you something more exotic? | 14:40 |
Diopter | UICTamale: Check to make sure you've got all the services running that need to be. | 14:41 |
UICTamale | This is in apache's error.log: | 14:41 |
UICTamale | [error] RESP:{'date': 'Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:39:21 GMT', 'status': '500', 'content-length': '128', 'content-type': 'application/json; charset=UTF-8', 'x-compute-request-id': 'req-3790c4ec-2805-4c26-afc6-838af73ec6d2'} {"computeFault": {"message": "The server has either erred or is incapable of performing the requested operation.", "code": 500}} | 14:41 |
phschwartz | diopter: ok, now I am back in the same place I was before when I had the fixed_range the same as public with the node ip's reserved. I am able to start instances, but they fail to bring up the networking. I don't see errors in network.log or compute.log. The dashboard says it has a set ip. | 14:41 |
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UICTamale | far as I can tell everything is running | 14:41 |
Diopter | phschwartz: What's your bridge look like now? | 14:42 |
Diopter | (ip a) | 14:42 |
UICTamale | If I click on the project tab, I'm kicked back out to the login screen | 14:42 |
phschwartz | Diopter: http://paste2.org/p/2099901 | 14:42 |
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dave_mcn | Hey all, wondering if anyone is available to review a change (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11029/)? | 14:47 |
phschwartz | Diopter: also for this I am using a standard ubuntu cloud image from their site. | 14:47 |
context | so when i assign a floating ip to an instance it can talk out, but other subnets on that router cant talk to it :/ | 14:47 |
context | and it can talk out to the interwebz | 14:48 |
Diopter | context: Does that router have an IP in the floating subnet? | 14:49 |
Diopter | context: Or are you going through a different gateway IP | 14:49 |
context | yes. | 14:49 |
context | hmmm good question | 14:49 |
context | the gateway would have to be in that subnet. | 14:50 |
context | <-- FAIL ! | 14:50 |
context | well, it can still talk to the internet :x | 14:50 |
Diopter | If the router doesn't have an IP in that range, it won't be able to ARP successfully into your fabric of floats | 14:50 |
Diopter | Sure. | 14:50 |
context | i gotta play around with it a bit more | 14:50 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: And if it helps, here is my current network config http://paste2.org/p/2099920 | 14:51 |
Diopter | phschwartz: Do you have your bridge in /etc/network/interfaces at all? And is eth1 supposed to be dormant? | 14:52 |
context | diopter: oh i got my networking running since yesterday, went with VlanManager though, seemed to be a bit easier | 14:52 |
context | i just need to work on the router a little bit | 14:52 |
Diopter | Cool | 14:53 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: No bridge coming up on boot. eth1 is not cabled as we don't have space in the switch, a second switch is on order. (48 nodes and 1 48 port switch). | 14:53 |
Diopter | Fun fun. And ok. | 14:54 |
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Diopter | So, few things going on there. What's in the nova-network log when you try to spin a VM and it fails on networking? | 14:54 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: I cleared the log and then launched an instance. http://paste2.org/p/2099921 | 14:57 |
phschwartz | that is the network log. | 14:58 |
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Diopter | Doesn't really look wrong. | 15:00 |
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phschwartz | This is from the console in the instance. http://paste2.org/p/2099923 | 15:01 |
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phschwartz | Normally I would see ci-info: eth0: 1 <ip> <mask> <mac> | 15:01 |
UICTamale | OK, running the dashboard in dev mode I can get a bit more detail. I'm definitely still running into some sort of 'policy' issue: | 15:01 |
UICTamale | Policy doesn't allow compute_extension:simple_tenant_usage:list to be performed | 15:01 |
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UICTamale | Googling for that error is completely useless though | 15:01 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: I think that if I can get this issue figured out, I might be ready to bring up the other compute nodes. But not sure what is going on. | 15:03 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034941 in devstack "Cinder and multi-host" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034941 | 15:05 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: Can I see "brctl show"? | 15:06 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: http://paste2.org/p/2099931 | 15:07 |
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UICTamale | Can someone clear up for me if I should be using a NOVA user to log into the dashboard or a KEYSTONE user? (basically mysql table nova.users or keystone.users) | 15:07 |
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context | uictamale: try both ? | 15:08 |
context | could find out relatively quickly in about 5 seconds | 15:08 |
UICTamale | context: lol, I have actually. | 15:08 |
UICTamale | I'm trying to trace down this "policy doesn't allow" error | 15:08 |
UICTamale | I don't see 'policy' in any mysql table | 15:09 |
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swinchen | start_guests_on_host_boot=true <--- Does anyone know if this would leave suspended servers suspended? I could reboot a node to see, but it is easier to ask. | 15:11 |
UICTamale | When I use my keystone user / password, I don't get a "Invalid user name or password", so I'm pretty sure that's the right one to use | 15:11 |
UICTamale | but in the nova tables, I see "user_role_association" - which sounds very suspect.. especially since it's empty. | 15:11 |
UICTamale | but in nova's users table, I don't see the user I was able to log in as anywhere | 15:12 |
p3n74D4v1d | any idea where the snapshots are stored with nova?? | 15:12 |
UICTamale | only the user I just made with nova-manage | 15:12 |
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UICTamale | where it's something interesting. | 15:16 |
UICTamale | I have a blank /etc/nova/policy.json file | 15:16 |
UICTamale | filling it out with: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/etc/nova/policy.json | 15:16 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: Does that brctl show look correct? | 15:18 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034948 in nova "Rescue doesn't use supplied admin_pass" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034948 | 15:21 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: It's not moving eth0 into the bridge like I'm expecting. But I'm not sure that should matter in this case. | 15:23 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: Would eth0 not being in the bridge stop the instance from getting a device on that bridge? | 15:33 |
coolj | swinchen: Be aware, on stable/essex (haven't check elsewhere) start_guests_on_host_boot=true will reboot all instances on a host every time the nova-compute service is restarted: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/stable/essex/nova/compute/manager.py#L258 | 15:35 |
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swinchen | coolj: thanks. I am having a really crappy time getting my server to handle a reboot cleanly. All my instances go to a state where nothing can be done and there are no errors in the logs. It is really ticking me off | 15:37 |
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UICTamale | finally! I can log into dashboard. Great! | 15:38 |
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coolj | swinchen: there's a bug about having resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=true causing nova-compute to fail to start, but it has a traceback in the log in the report. thowing it out anyway, just in case. https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1010927 | 15:43 |
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coolj | swinchen: what exactly is being rebooted? (compute node, controller, all in one...?) | 15:58 |
rosco_ | luc: We switched back to pound because of this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/903646 | 15:59 |
rosco_ | Client react different on nginx | 15:59 |
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rosco_ | +s | 16:00 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: Any other ideas? I am all out. | 16:03 |
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UICTamale | On one of my compute nodes, I'm getting two br100 IPs created by nova-network | 16:07 |
UICTamale | Anyone had this problem before? | 16:07 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034970 in nova "config for logging options uses dash but code uses underscore" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034970 | 16:10 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1034972 in glance "POST /v2/images without an image body raises exception" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1034972 | 16:16 |
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ev0ldave | uictamale: two br100 interfaces or br100 interface with 2 ups? | 16:28 |
ev0ldave | stupid autocorrect: ups = ips | 16:28 |
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UICTamale | second - 2 ups | 16:29 |
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guimaluf | how can I force the deletion of a VM? should I edit some nova table? | 16:30 |
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ev0ldave | that's weird are you manually defining the br100 interface in your interfaces with a static ip? | 16:33 |
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ev0ldave | guimaluf: you make sure nova-compute is running properly first? everytime i've had a hung delete i needed to fix the nova-compute service | 16:34 |
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guimaluf | ev0ldave, this is the problem, nova-compute is XXX cause there is no instace-0005c directory on /var/lib/nova/instances | 16:37 |
UICTamale | ev0ldave: No, it's not defined in /etc/network/interfaces | 16:37 |
UICTamale | In any case, I used one of the commands diopter gave me yesterday to remove it - ip a d dev br100 100.100.100.8/24 | 16:37 |
UICTamale | seemed to have worked. | 16:37 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: Could the cause of my problem be related to how I set the network up. I told it to use br16 as the bridge. | 17:19 |
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Diopter | phschwartz: Maybe comment that line in the nova.conf | 17:20 |
Diopter | Shouldn't be the issue, but... | 17:20 |
phschwartz | wait, confused. Which line? I was talking about when I created the network with nova-manage. | 17:20 |
Diopter | Maybe your fixed network was added with specifying a different bridge, or something else in the database stored | 17:20 |
Diopter | Ah | 17:20 |
phschwartz | I specified --bridge_interface=br16 when I created it. | 17:21 |
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Diopter | Might try without | 17:21 |
phschwartz | Without creating the network or without the fixed_range set in the conf? | 17:21 |
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Diopter | You need fixed_range in the conf. Try recreating the network without specifying the bridge device. Or try commenting the bridge in the conf. | 17:22 |
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phschwartz | Diopter: created the network without specifying a bridge, starging an instnace. | 17:25 |
phschwartz | same result. | 17:25 |
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UICTamale | phschwartz - did you restart nova network after doing so? | 17:27 |
UICTamale | I had to | 17:27 |
phschwartz | yes, Here is the flow I have been using. Stop all nova components. clear DB. change config, db sync, network create, start nova components. | 17:27 |
UICTamale | and right before start nova components, you have no bridge when you do ip a ? | 17:28 |
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phschwartz | UICTamale: The bridge doesn't come down when nova-network does | 17:29 |
UICTamale | Right, it won't until you remove it with ip a d or restart ubuntu networking | 17:30 |
UICTamale | In my experience nova-network never removes things | 17:30 |
UICTamale | just adds them :) | 17:30 |
Diopter | You can blow away the bridge yourself pretty easily | 17:30 |
swinchen | coolj: sorry about the delay. I am rebooting everything | 17:30 |
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phschwartz | UICTamale: Let me try that. ip a d? | 17:30 |
UICTamale | it's a dancy diopter command :) | 17:30 |
phschwartz | btw running Centos 6.2 not ubuntu. | 17:30 |
Diopter | ip a d <- just deletes the address you specify | 17:30 |
Diopter | ip a d dev <if> <ip> | 17:30 |
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Diopter | ip a help, or ip help, if you're curious | 17:32 |
phschwartz | should I delete the bridge also, or just do the ip a d dev br16 192.168.16.3/24 on it. | 17:32 |
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UICTamale | I'm having the best luck with a manual eth1 entry but no bridge in /etc/network/interfaces | 17:33 |
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UICTamale | then letting nova-network make the bridge | 17:33 |
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phschwartz | that is what I am doing, but with eth0 as eth1 isn't cabled. | 17:34 |
phschwartz | But the issue is instances come up and don't get their network info. | 17:34 |
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raziel_ | anyone knows why the flag: "instances_path=" makes the instance to fail spwanning? | 17:35 |
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phschwartz | UICTamale: Yeah, doing the ip a d didn't help. I am going to try completely removing the bridge this time. | 17:36 |
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UICTamale | phschwartz makes sense, good luck | 17:36 |
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UICTamale | I've got a flood of 'unable to retrieve details for instance "xxx" ' errors in the dashboard | 17:37 |
UICTamale | but I can't find the id it references anywhere | 17:37 |
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UICTamale | where the F is it getting that? | 17:38 |
phschwartz | UICTamale: No luck. Man this is getting agrevating. lol | 17:39 |
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UICTamale | is there a flat-file list of instance IDs somewhere? | 17:41 |
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phschwartz | Bah, I think I am done for the moment. I need to take a break, I just hosed the bridge. | 17:44 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035004 in nova "TypeError: prep_resize() takes at least 6 arguments (7 given)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035004 | 18:01 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035008 in python-quantumclient "unable to see details of the messages between the client and server" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035008 | 18:11 |
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smokes2345 | can someone shed a little more light on the nova live_migration options? like, what are the live_migration_flag values and what does each of them mean? | 18:13 |
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smokes2345 | can someone shed a little more light on the nova live_migration options? like, what are the live_migration_flag values and what does each of them mean? | 18:56 |
annegentle | smokes2345: bottom of this page http://docs.openstack.org/essex/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-live-migrations.html | 18:57 |
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annegentle | smokes2345: though those descriptions are plain awful | 18:57 |
smokes2345 | yeah, thats exactly what i mean, they don't really tell you anything useful | 18:57 |
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annegentle | smokes2345: please log a doc bug at http://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-manuals | 18:58 |
smokes2345 | the uri and retry counts are fairly obvious (i think) but flags and bandwidth? what are the available flags? what do they mean? does the bandwidth option limit the used bandwidth or define the minimum necessary? | 18:59 |
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UICTamale | can someone explain what 'flat_injected=False' does with nova-networking? | 19:10 |
UICTamale | my new VMs aren't coming up with networking on some of my compute nodesd | 19:10 |
UICTamale | but on some of them they're fine | 19:10 |
UICTamale | even though the nova.conf and /etc/network/interfaces configs are the same | 19:10 |
Diopter | UICTamale: http://docs.openstack.org/trunk/openstack-compute/admin/content/configuring-flat-networking.html | 19:11 |
Diopter | ^ explains the injection when you're not running FlatDHCP | 19:11 |
uvirtbot | Diopter: Error: "explains" is not a valid command. | 19:11 |
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UICTamale | aha, so with flatDHCP i need flat_injected=false | 19:12 |
UICTamale | or at least, it's a best practice | 19:12 |
Diopter | Mmhmm | 19:12 |
UICTamale | hmm. I'm very confused what's different between my nodes again | 19:12 |
UICTamale | this time I built them all identically for sure | 19:13 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035035 in openstack-common "git review autorebase should "die in a fire"" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035035 | 19:17 |
UICTamale | cloud-init-nonet gave up waiting for a network device | 19:17 |
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UICTamale | should eth1 be in promiscuous mode? | 19:20 |
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ijw | Hmm. | 19:21 |
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ijw | With ubuntu essex, the base64-encoded (and why is it base64 encoded?) userdata in my database is being truncated at 65535 bytes, resulting in something that can't be decoded. Is that something people know about? | 19:21 |
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smoser | ijw, the api should probably just reject your attempt | 19:28 |
smoser | the client base64 encodes it (this is per specification and following of amazon) | 19:28 |
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smoser | but amazon allows 64k binary data | 19:29 |
smoser | so that is a bug. | 19:29 |
ijw | smoser: yes, I think that's true, and as for the b64 encoding that doesn't mean it should be stored as base64, since it has to be decoded at some point. | 19:29 |
smoser | and its a bug that the api didn't just say "go away" | 19:29 |
smoser | ijw, clearly. the size limit was not intended to be put on the b64 size. | 19:29 |
ijw | smoser: yup, looks like. | 19:30 |
smoser | you can/should file 2 bugs. | 19:30 |
smoser | or 1. | 19:30 |
smoser | but both should be fixed. | 19:30 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035049 in openstack-manuals "migration options documentation is unclear" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035049 | 19:36 |
shanlar | with cloud-init, do i have to specify my cloud-config in the user data or is it possible to leave user-data blank and have cloud-init always use a static cloud-config file? | 19:36 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035055 in nova "metadata cannot be fetched into client if it's an inconvenient size" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035055 | 19:46 |
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UICTamale | should dnsmasq be listening on the private IP or the public one? | 19:50 |
UICTamale | I can reach my VMs via private IPs finally (rebooted ALL nodes and things magically started working) - but floating IPs still aren't routing properly | 19:51 |
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UICTamale | I can use the floating IP FROM the node the VM is on | 19:53 |
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UICTamale | but not from any other computer on our network | 19:53 |
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spg | namaskar | 19:55 |
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UICTamale | ? | 19:55 |
spg | that is hello | 19:56 |
UICTamale | ah, hello :) | 19:56 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1035059 in nova "Metadata is still broken in a default install, if you're unlucky" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035059 | 19:56 |
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ijw | UICTamale: to ask the stupid question, is the floating IP routeable? | 19:59 |
UICTamale | Not a stupid question - I don't even know how to check that. | 19:59 |
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UICTamale | Nova network adds the floating IPs to the bridged interface - I can see it in ip a output | 20:00 |
Diopter | UICTamale: Add one of your floats that's not associated onto your bridge, and try connecting to the host through it from externally, or from it to somewhere external | 20:00 |
Diopter | (ping -I lets you choose an interface/IP to source from) | 20:00 |
UICTamale | add with dashboard? | 20:01 |
Diopter | No | 20:01 |
Diopter | Just manually | 20:01 |
Diopter | ip a a dev br### x.x.x.x/32 | 20:02 |
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UICTamale | wait, it's adding the floating IP to eth1, not br100 | 20:02 |
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UICTamale | is that the problem? | 20:02 |
UICTamale | (it being nova-network) | 20:02 |
Diopter | Hrm. Not sure. Wasn't your private range bridged to eth1? | 20:03 |
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UICTamale | private range shows up on br100 | 20:04 |
Diopter | But eth1 is in br100, no? | 20:04 |
UICTamale | floating range shows up on eth1 | 20:04 |
UICTamale | yes | 20:04 |
UICTamale | correct | 20:05 |
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Diopter | So that's your problem. Your floating IP(s) should be on eth0, with your public. | 20:05 |
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UICTamale | aha | 20:05 |
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UICTamale | sudo nova-manage floating list | 20:06 |
UICTamale | e0ac70cdacc547859b6f92cb9876865510.150.150.65c1d3c481-3948-4429-81dd-01fd0afbf02dlaneth1 | 20:06 |
UICTamale | is it that 'eth1' that's f'ing me up? | 20:06 |
Diopter | Ostensibly, yes. | 20:06 |
UICTamale | sweet, that's an easy fix | 20:06 |
UICTamale | remove and re-add the pool right | 20:07 |
Diopter | Try it, yep | 20:07 |
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UICTamale | well, I see the floating IP on eth0 now | 20:19 |
UICTamale | still can't ping it from other machines though | 20:19 |
swinchen | Well, I just lost my cool and swore a lot. I feel better. | 20:20 |
ijw | Can someone tell me the yum package in centos for the glance CLI client? | 20:21 |
ijw | (essex, if it matters) | 20:21 |
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UICTamale | 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 | 20:21 |
UICTamale | inet 10.150.150.22/24 brd 10.150.150.255 scope global eth0 # <=== actual node IP | 20:21 |
UICTamale | inet 10.150.150.65/32 scope global eth0 # <==== floating IP | 20:21 |
UICTamale | inet6 fe80::230:48ff:fed7:3e8/64 scope link | 20:21 |
UICTamale | valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever | 20:21 |
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UICTamale | is that 10.150.150.255 part after the node IP supposed to be with the floating IP as well? | 20:22 |
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ijw | aha, openstack-glance. | 20:23 |
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mckraken | UIC: looks fine. One thing I've always had to do is turn off reverse packet filtering on the involved interfaces: echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter | 20:32 |
UICTamale | mckraken: thanks, tried that - still no luck | 20:32 |
UICTamale | doesn't it cause problems to have two IPs on the same interface, one "within" the subnet of the other? | 20:33 |
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mckraken | that's how it looks/works for me | 20:33 |
UICTamale | hrm | 20:33 |
UICTamale | and you can reach both IPs from other machines on your network? | 20:33 |
mckraken | "both" ip's? | 20:34 |
UICTamale | yes, the physical machine via its standard eth0 ip and the VM | 20:34 |
UICTamale | also, where did that /32 come from? | 20:34 |
UICTamale | shouldn't it be /24 ? | 20:35 |
mckraken | actually that's not how it's working for me. sorry didn't read closely | 20:35 |
mckraken | but yes, the floating ip's will have /32 as individual prerouted addresses | 20:35 |
UICTamale | *whew* - i'm tired of my setup being the same as others but only mine's failing ;) | 20:35 |
UICTamale | ok - then my question is how are they supposed to be routed from other machines on the network? | 20:36 |
mckraken | i have another interface that is dedicated for public_ips though and it has the network range assigned to it as well | 20:36 |
UICTamale | should they have a broadcast? | 20:36 |
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UICTamale | a third interface? | 20:36 |
mckraken | yes | 20:36 |
UICTamale | nice | 20:36 |
UICTamale | third physical or just two physical | 20:36 |
mckraken | two physical but with trunked vlan's | 20:37 |
UICTamale | aha. | 20:37 |
mckraken | so the public_ip interface is actually vlanXXX | 20:37 |
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mckraken | so yeah, never mind, I'm totally different. :) | 20:37 |
UICTamale | lol | 20:38 |
UICTamale | thanks anyway? :) | 20:38 |
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context | so... networks shows a gateway of x.y.z.1, but the VM is showing the openstack's bridge ip, which on this one is x.y.z.5 | 21:00 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1035085 in horizon "devstack horizon-setting.py is out-of-date" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035085 | 21:01 |
context | so how do i get my router to talk to them :/ | 21:02 |
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noob | hey guys. I seem to be having an odd issue where every 3rd or 4th instance will boot. all others will fail to launch | 21:15 |
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noob | I think i found the error. could not retrieve tenant list from the httpd logs | 21:20 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035100 in python-quantumclient "quantum client should determine the API version from keystone network service endpoint" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035100 | 21:36 |
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warik | why another instance_path than /var/lib/nova/instances will fails spwanning the instance? | 21:36 |
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QuinnMurphy | can I ask a quick stackops question here? | 22:07 |
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QuinnMurphy | actually, just answered it :) | 22:11 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035111 in horizon "Spinner consuming 100% CPU for > 20 instances" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035111 | 22:21 |
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Vinsh_HP | I am noticing in the horizon dashboard.. with folsom.. with each new project created.. there is a duplicate "default" security group added. | 22:30 |
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Vinsh_HP | However.. I can not delete the extras. | 22:30 |
Vinsh_HP | Maybe each default group belongs to a specific project? If so, there is no way to tell from the horizon dashboard. | 22:30 |
Vinsh_HP | Anyone else know whats going on with that? | 22:30 |
Vinsh_HP | This is a devstack setup fyi. | 22:31 |
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UICTamale | Hey everyone, I'm having a heckuva time with floating IPs. Are we really supposed to run iptables commands to manually route each assigned floating IP as this document suggests? http://docs.openstack.org/diablo/openstack-compute/admin/content/associating-public-ip.html | 22:39 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035120 in nova "Server create with malformed body yields a 500 error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035120 | 22:50 |
UICTamale | 400+ idlers.. and nary a peep :) | 22:52 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1035121 in nova "Changing the instances path doesn't work" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035121 | 23:01 |
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noob2 | can someone show me a working keystone example? I keep getting stuck on it | 23:06 |
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mckraken | UIC: you shouldn't need to do that, no. But there are some issues with running everything through a single physical interface. | 23:11 |
mckraken | Haven't done it myself, as our earlier conversation so aptly demonstrated, but I remember reading that you need to create a bridge device if you're going to run public/private on the same interface. | 23:12 |
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noob2 | are the endpoints in keystone arbitrary? | 23:18 |
warik | thoughts on clean the _base directory? | 23:20 |
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