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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036031 in horizon "Quota usage dies on deleted flavors" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036031 | 04:51 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036042 in swift "swift-object-replicator runs forever" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036042 | 05:46 |
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xtrusia_ | does cinder support xenapi on master branch? there is no cinder.virt module | 06:30 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036051 in quantum "limit default set of fields shown in *-list cmds" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036051 | 06:31 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036053 in python-quantumclient "inconsistent use of 'status' values" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036053 | 06:41 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036057 in python-quantumclient "Authentication fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036057 | 06:45 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036054 in quantum "inconsistent use of 'status' values" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036054 | 06:47 |
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fitzdsl | hello guys. What's the best distro to try OpenStack ? | 07:02 |
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kviiri | Operating system? The docs seem to be written for Ubuntu so I think that's the "default" choice, but I've got a few working setups on Red Hat | 07:08 |
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erkules | I recently heard riak would like to replace swift. Ive got no clue about riak. Any deeper knowlegde/opinions about riak with openstack? | 07:24 |
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zykes- | erkules: aren't they two different things ? | 07:30 |
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koolhead17 | erkules, better ask them how from whom you heard :) | 07:35 |
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erkules | okidoki | 07:40 |
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erkules | koolhead17: ^^ | 07:41 |
erkules | zykes-: http://basho.com/products/riak-and-swift/ | 07:41 |
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p3N74d4V1d | hello | 07:42 |
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koolhead17 | erkules, last part sums up everything :) | 07:45 |
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erkules | koolhead17: "Riak CS is proprietary" | 07:46 |
erkules | argh | 07:46 |
koolhead17 | :) | 07:46 |
erkules | thx for pointing :) | 07:46 |
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fitzdsl | is ubuntu more supported and tested than fedora ? | 08:08 |
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zykes- | fitzdsl: I wouldn't think so, the Fedora team has made conciderable efforts to make it good! | 08:09 |
zykes- | though it has been used more on Ubuntu then on Fedora I think | 08:10 |
fitzdsl | zykes-: thank you so I'll continue on fedora so :) | 08:11 |
trygvis | it seems to be that openstack isn't very distro specific, it mainly depends on existing/common stuff | 08:11 |
fitzdsl | yes but distro integration maturity can vary a lot | 08:12 |
kviiri | What kind of integration are you talking about? | 08:17 |
trygvis | there's not a whole lot of integration needed | 08:17 |
trygvis | logrotation is not very hard :) | 08:17 |
fitzdsl | :) | 08:17 |
fitzdsl | i'm just fresh on openstack, but my experience teached me to try opensource project packages on the same distro as the majority of dev / users do to avoid specific distro packaging problem when you discover the project | 08:19 |
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trygvis | I think you'll be safe with both ubuntu and fedora, even debian is working (but seems to lag behind) | 08:20 |
Toretto | From where i can get the centOS-5.8 Image? | 08:20 |
fitzdsl | ok thanks, that's what I wanted to know :) | 08:20 |
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AlvinXu | hi there, I am a beginner of openstack. there is a question about nova-network, what's the difference between wrapped and unwrapped chains in iptables? | 08:31 |
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AlvinXu | can somebody help me? thx~ | 08:31 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036084 in nova "bw_usage_update makes an unnecessary query" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036084 | 08:31 |
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ogelbukh | AlvinXu: For ipv4 and ipv6, the built-in INPUT, OUTPUT, and FORWARD filter chains are wrapped, meaning that the “real” INPUT chain has a rule that jumps to the wrapped INPUT chain, etc. | 08:39 |
ogelbukh | AlvinXu: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/api/nova.network.linux_net.html#nova.network.linux_net.IptablesManager | 08:39 |
ogelbukh | does it answers your question? | 08:40 |
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AlvinXu | ogelbukh: but there is still one more wrapped chain named "local", what does it do? | 08:44 |
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AlvinXu | ogelbukh: I was informed that unwrapped chains can be shared by several components, my question is that, Under what circumstances would this happen? several components use one ipchain? | 08:47 |
ogelbukh | I think this means several components may add the rules to that chains | 08:50 |
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ogelbukh | it seems that 'unwrapped' are default chains (INPUT/OUTPUT/FORWARD) | 08:51 |
AlvinXu | can u give me some examples that several components add rules to one chain? | 08:52 |
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AlvinXu | nova-filter-top is also a unwrapped chain... | 08:53 |
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ogelbukh | AlvinXu: in my understanding, services only add link to their wrapped chains to the unwrapped chain | 09:02 |
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koolhead17 | ogelbukh, can you pass me LBas project page | 09:16 |
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AlvinXu | ogelbukh: make sense... let me think... thx... <3 | 09:23 |
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fitzdsl | when I try to use a .keystonerc I get 'Unable to communicate with identity service: Unable to find the server at 192.168.200.64:.' | 09:36 |
fitzdsl | this ip is my external IP, whatever I try to set (this IP, localhost, 5000 or 35357) I always get this message | 09:37 |
fitzdsl | in keystone.log I get the request and it seems to reply a correct json | 09:37 |
fitzdsl | if I query with token and endpoint it works well | 09:38 |
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Toretto | I don't have two sepate networks, two separate drive, can i still use openstack for my testing? | 09:41 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036105 in horizon "Project menu should not be displayed when launching a instance from Project panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036105 | 09:41 |
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FlorianOtel | Does anyone here knows how the WSGI application pipeline are invoked for nova (Essex / 2012.1 ) . TIA. | 10:01 |
FlorianOtel | koolhead17, any idea ? | 10:02 |
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uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, duuuuuude. | 10:16 |
FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, | 10:17 |
FlorianOtel | thanks | 10:17 |
FlorianOtel | uksysadmin, Now, since koolhead17 is asleep at the wheel. Need help understanding Nova "api-paste.ini" | 10:18 |
* uksysadmin goes to smoke some crack before answering that request | 10:18 | |
FlorianOtel | lol. pass the pipe :) | 10:19 |
uksysadmin | :) | 10:19 |
uksysadmin | now what can one help you with? | 10:19 |
ninkotech | Toretto: yes, you can | 10:19 |
ninkotech | Toretto: even 1 server is enough | 10:19 |
ninkotech | Toretto: but if you want to make production cloud, be sure to have 40+ machines | 10:20 |
ninkotech | or it will not be worth the work | 10:20 |
maploin | FlorianOtel, the format of api-paste.ini is standard for paste-deploy and it's explained in the upstream docs: http://pythonpaste.org/deploy/#applications along with stuff like applications and filters | 10:20 |
fitzdsl | ninkotech: the recomanded number of hypervisor is about 40+ ? | 10:21 |
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ninkotech | fitzdsl: openstack is pretty comples to be used on just 3 machines | 10:22 |
ninkotech | (use libvirt for that) | 10:22 |
ninkotech | 20+ is a must to be effective | 10:22 |
fitzdsl | I already do | 10:22 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, Thanks. That helps (a bit) | 10:23 |
ninkotech | complex :) | 10:23 |
ninkotech | FlorianOtel: congrats:) you are one of those more brave souls | 10:23 |
fitzdsl | but I'm looking for a more entreprise-grade virtualisation management system | 10:23 |
ninkotech | oh. wrong name :) | 10:23 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: ^^ | 10:23 |
fitzdsl | I'm looking to oVirt also | 10:23 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: how do you like it? | 10:23 |
fitzdsl | oVirt ? | 10:24 |
ninkotech | yes | 10:24 |
uksysadmin | FlorianOtel, is a brave soul though. ut by brave I presume crazy? ;-) | 10:24 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, However, while the format is explained there, is there any explanation on how the diff composite apps / apps / pipelines are invoked ? | 10:24 |
fitzdsl | as far as I have tested it, it's quite good | 10:24 |
ninkotech | no, its not crazy, but its hard... needs pretty good skills -- and time - to maintain just 5-10 machines | 10:25 |
fitzdsl | but when I tested it there were no glusterfs integration yet and the project is quite fresh | 10:25 |
ninkotech | its costly | 10:25 |
fitzdsl | but I fear a lack of community behind ovirt | 10:25 |
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ninkotech | fitzdsl: they have some smart folks too, but openstack is imho best... | 10:26 |
fitzdsl | what I am trying to understand is that possible to use openstack without EC2/AMI logic. | 10:26 |
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FlorianOtel | and I mean invoked in Nova. There is nothing in the conf files (looked at: DevStack, Ubuntu 12.04, Install & Config guide) showing how / what settings in "nova.conf" invoke what [composite] apps / pipelines. | 10:26 |
maploin | FlorianOtel, they are just wsgi middlewares, they get called. Here's an example one: http://pythonpaste.org/deploy/#paste-filter-factory | 10:26 |
maploin | FlorianOtel, where by called, I mean __call__(...)-ed | 10:27 |
fitzdsl | I'm not that interested with that part of Cloud oriented IaaS because I'm using tools to massively automated unatended installation | 10:27 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: did you see salt btw? how do you like it? | 10:28 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: how do you install? | 10:29 |
fitzdsl | ninkotech: salt ? | 10:29 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: saltstack.org :) | 10:29 |
fitzdsl | ninkotech: using TheForeman and puppet | 10:29 |
* fitzdsl looking to salt | 10:29 | |
ninkotech | i love python -> using salt | 10:29 |
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fitzdsl | ninkotech: I think this is quite close to mcollective nope ? | 10:32 |
ninkotech | fitzdsl: similar. yes | 10:32 |
ninkotech | but python | 10:32 |
ninkotech | as i love python, i prefer pythonic stuff :) | 10:33 |
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FlorianOtel | maploin, So what you're saying is that if e.g. I want to remove the EC2 appl pipelines / middleware configs from "api-paste.ini" I need to trawl the source code and check where they are invoked ? | 10:33 |
maploin | FlorianOtel, no, they don't get invoked if they're not in the config | 10:34 |
fitzdsl | anyone has an idea why I could have this error 'Unable to communicate with identity service: Unable to find the server at 192.168.200.64:. (HTTP 400)' when using os_ export with keystone ? | 10:36 |
trygvis | that port looks a bit strange | 10:36 |
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fitzdsl | trygvis: here is my openrc : http://pastebin.com/igmSZ2U2 | 10:37 |
fitzdsl | all keystone command works with token and endpoint defined in cli | 10:38 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, Well, that starts to make sense, as my "nova.conf" file does not have any "[paste_deploy] | 10:38 |
zynzel | fitzdsl: show endpoint | 10:38 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, section that would point me to what WSGI pipeline gets pasted when | 10:38 |
fitzdsl | zynzel: ? | 10:39 |
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FlorianOtel | so, as I don't have any such in my "nova.conf", why do I need an "api-paste.ini" then :) ? | 10:39 |
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zynzel | fitzdsl: keystone use endpoint (templates) for api url | 10:39 |
FlorianOtel | and, more imp, where does e.g. config bits for "authtoken" have to go ? | 10:41 |
fitzdsl | zynzel: and ? | 10:41 |
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zynzel | fitzdsl: and you can have typo in endpoint templates :) | 10:41 |
zynzel | as trygvis says '.' is very strange port. | 10:42 |
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maploin | FlorianOtel, api-paste.ini tells you all you need to know about the order in which the filters are used; there is a [filter:authtoken] section for configuring that filter | 10:46 |
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fitzdsl | zynzel, trygvis: thank you. it was a typo in my endpoint | 10:48 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, I understand that. You're missing my point. My point was: As there is nothing in the "nova.conf" file that points me to any composite / app / pipeline and if -- to your point -- that makes the "api-paste.ini" unecessary (???) then where does the "authtoken" gets configured. | 10:48 |
FlorianOtel | If, alternatively, the different stages in "api-paste.ini" do get called when -- so I can figure which ones I can do without. | 10:50 |
maploin | FlorianOtel, i don't get the part about nova.conf pointing you to a pipeline in api-paste.ini. I think the two config files are quite independent. | 10:52 |
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FlorianOtel | maploin, Well, let me give you Glance as an example. For configuring the Glance API the config file is "glance-api.conf". The last section in "glance-api.conf" is "[paste_deploy]" with "flavor" being the name of the coresp appl pipeline -- defined in "glance-api-paste.ini" that gets called. | 10:55 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, e.g. in my case I have "flavor = keystone+caching", configuring Glance to use Keystone auth + caching, and the WSGI pipeline in "glance-api-paste.ini" is defined as "[pipeline:glance-api-keystone+caching]", with all the different filters and apps -- e.g. "authtoken" being configured in subsequent sections of that file. | 10:57 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, That way I know what gets called and when and where do I configure out. | 10:58 |
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FlorianOtel | maploin, OTOH as I only have "nova.conf", with no pointers to resp. appl pipelines I'm left guessing what "entry points" (for the lack of a better name) are in "api-paste.ini" and when they are invoked. | 10:59 |
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maploin | FlorianOtel, ok, I think I know what you mean now. But I don't know the answer to that question :) | 11:04 |
SkyMan | hi stackers ! | 11:07 |
FlorianOtel | maploin, :). Ok, thanks. No probs. There is one way to find out -- remove all the stuff I don't think it belongs there and see what happens :) | 11:07 |
koolhead17 | uksysadmin, FlorianOtel hi. | 11:08 |
* koolhead17 was out for lunch | 11:08 | |
FlorianOtel | koolhead17, Yo. | 11:08 |
SkyMan | i am having a strange problem, actually when i try to allocate a range of floating IPs say 192.168.130.20/27 , the range doesnt start at 192.168.130.20, but in 192.168.130.5 | 11:08 |
SkyMan | What do you think ?? | 11:08 |
koolhead17 | FlorianOtel, sir :) | 11:09 |
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zynzel | SkyMan: this is not a strange problem. | 11:18 |
zynzel | this is cidr. | 11:18 |
zynzel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing | 11:18 |
zynzel | http://jodies.de/ipcalc?host=192.168.130.20&mask1=27&mask2= | 11:18 |
SkyMan | zynzel: this is new to me :) ! how do i solve it ? | 11:18 |
zynzel | read above links. | 11:19 |
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SkyMan | zynzel: do i have to read all that ? the demo day approaches :'( | 11:20 |
zynzel | no, you dont, but if you don not understand routing, how you are going to configure openstack? ;) | 11:21 |
SkyMan | zynzel: omg , i hate networkiniiiing , i should have become a cook !!!!!!!!!! | 11:23 |
Drakiz | it is never too late to change your life line. | 11:25 |
zynzel | ;)) | 11:25 |
SkyMan | zynzel: can't i just disable this or something ? , i do own a good range of public IPs | 11:25 |
SkyMan | zynzel: i can't ping VMs like this :/ | 11:26 |
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Drakiz | SkyMan: Firstly i think you have read more about networking. Only after that you can do something.. 192.168.130.20/27 ip address range is actually 192.168.130.0/27 - starts from 192.168.130.1 till 192.168.130.31. Second 192.168.x.x range is not public ip addresses. | 11:30 |
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SkyMan | Drakiz: i surely need to read about it but i have to do a demo at the end of this week ! and i am stuck at it :/, 192.168.30.20 was just an example, how do i calculate the real adresse range ? | 11:32 |
evil_steve | SkyMan: read the CIDR wikipedia page and understand about how a CIDR can carve up a larger allocation | 11:32 |
SkyMan | i already have 32 public IPs , why do i need this CIDR !!!!!! | 11:33 |
evil_steve | SkyMan: for the same reason you need a netmask | 11:34 |
SkyMan | evil_steve: i do hate this networking stuff | 11:34 |
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evil_steve | it's what made the internet what it is today. | 11:34 |
SkyMan | evil_steve: back to my problem, how can i use my public IPs now , i used the jodies tool | 11:35 |
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Toretto | I am getting " Unable to get log for instance "a3d51b60-14f3-4554-bc06-1029ae8bb4f6"" | 11:38 |
Toretto | while launching any new instance | 11:38 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036153 in horizon "Networks of other projects are shown in VM launching menu when logged in as admin" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036153 | 12:11 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036161 in keystone "keystone should log all authentication failures" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036161 | 12:46 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036167 in nova "body is not returned for reboot server request with xml format" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036167 | 13:01 |
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fitzdsl | I think there is a missing dependency with | 13:18 |
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fitzdsl | python-memcached on rpm's dashboard | 13:19 |
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halfss | hi,it's there anyone upgrade kvm? after upgrade kvm, openstack make fault:http://paste.openstack.org/show/20281/ | 13:21 |
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fitzdsl | is there anything to do to configure a remote keystone for horizon | 13:27 |
fitzdsl | ? | 13:27 |
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fitzdsl | found :) | 13:28 |
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swinchen | How can I shutdown an instance? I don't want to suspend or pause, but shutdown... | 13:36 |
kwadronaut | swinchen: it's supposed to be there in the newer(/st) dashboard | 13:37 |
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kwadronaut | believe it's called horizon | 13:37 |
swinchen | hrmm, I am not using dashboard :/ | 13:38 |
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kwadronaut | that's the spirit :-D | 13:38 |
kwadronaut | ssh into the instance, and tell it to init 0 ;-) | 13:39 |
kwadronaut | swinchen: i had the same question 2 weeks ago, didn't come up with a good solution, so tell me if you find one | 13:39 |
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andreaf | jaypipes hi I have a question about the whitebox tests in tempest - is this the right place for this topic | 13:42 |
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swinchen | kwadronaut: thanks, I don't have access to the instance. I need to bring the server down for a while (moving the rack) and not sure how to cleaning stop it. | 13:46 |
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kwadronaut | andreaf: in general it's good practice on irc to just ask your question. | 13:49 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036193 in glance "glance-api with more than 1 worker is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036193 | 13:50 |
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andreaf | kwadronaut ok, thanks | 13:55 |
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fitzdsl | Is that ringing someone's bell "tgtadm: can't send the request to the tgt daemon, Transport endpoint is not connected\n" when creating a new volume ? | 13:55 |
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newbie|2 | hi | 13:58 |
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newbie|2 | is there a y doc aobut zfs iswift integration | 13:59 |
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andreaf | Anyone interested in commenting / reviewing a tempest blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/add-vm-consistency-tests | 14:10 |
fitzdsl | does anyone have an idea about that error on creating volume ? http://pastebin.com/sz04if2s | 14:10 |
jaypipes | andreaf: sure thing. | 14:11 |
jaypipes | andreaf: are you familiar with the existing whitebox tests in tempest? | 14:14 |
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andreaf | jaypipes I went through the code | 14:16 |
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samkottler | wiliam: 18 | 14:16 |
samkottler | wiliam: sorry, wrong window :) | 14:16 |
andreaf | I was trying to do something like that and then I saw it was out there already | 14:16 |
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jaypipes | andreaf: yeah, so I think the additions you put in the blueprint would be great | 14:17 |
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jaypipes | andreaf: can I ask that you do them in two patches, though? | 14:18 |
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jaypipes | andreaf: are you familiar with how to contribute to OpenStack projects? | 14:18 |
andreaf | jaypipes yes I think it shall be splitted in pieces. one is cluster discovery service, the other is virsh client | 14:20 |
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jaypipes | andreaf: I would start with the virsh client. | 14:21 |
jaypipes | andreaf: since most of the pieces you need are already there (ssh client, etc) | 14:21 |
andreaf | jaypipes ok sounds good | 14:22 |
jaypipes | andreaf: cheers. ping me if you run into any questions. happy to assist. | 14:22 |
andreaf | jaypipes thanks | 14:23 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036213 in openstack-manuals "Connection to tabpress seems to slow down webhelp (HTML) load time" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036213 | 14:36 |
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NashTrash | jaypipes: I was able to resolve my Diablo-metadata timeout issues. | 14:44 |
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jaypipes | NashTrash: ah, excellent. | 14:45 |
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newbie|2 | anyone has information about integrating zfs with swift ? | 14:48 |
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NashTrash | jaypipes: Turns out I had 2700 entries in the instances table and a similar number in the virtual_interfaces table. Once I cleared out all of the instances marked as deleted my metadata times went from 2.7s to 0.25s. | 14:50 |
jaypipes | newbie|2: sorry, no. you might want to ask the Nexenta folks on the mailing list. | 14:50 |
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newbie|2 | jaypipes: afaik nexenta is a commercial software , i'm looking for a free solution | 14:50 |
jaypipes | NashTrash: heh, well, yes, that's certainly a temporary fix... :) the problem is that the query is doing a cartesian join on both tables, so the more the tables grow, the slower things get exponentially | 14:51 |
NashTrash | jaypipes: Seems like the metadata queries must be doing some very inefficient joins that don't exclude entries marked as deleted. | 14:51 |
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NashTrash | jaypipes: Ah. Yes. | 14:51 |
jaypipes | newbie|2: Nexenta can point you in the right direction... | 14:51 |
newbie|2 | jaypipes: ok thanks | 14:51 |
jaypipes | newbie|2: ZFS and Swift are both open source. no need to pay for it if you have the time yourself to set stuff up. | 14:51 |
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newbie|2 | jaypipes: I see thanks, I couldnt find any resource how to integrate zfs with swift, | 14:52 |
newbie|2 | newbie|2: it's mentioned in openstack docs but there is not information how to implement it | 14:52 |
newbie|2 | jaypipes: do I need to use opensolaris/iscsi ? | 14:53 |
halfss | hi,is there anybody konw this? http://paste.openstack.org/show/20281/ | 14:54 |
jaypipes | newbie|2: sorry, I'm really not sure. never done it :( | 14:54 |
newbie|2 | jaypipes: thanks, | 14:55 |
jaypipes | halfss: no, never seen that :( | 14:55 |
jaypipes | halfss: what does your libvirt XMl template look like? | 14:55 |
jaypipes | halfss: are you using a custom template or something? | 14:55 |
UICTamale | can anyone help with my nova-network multi-host floating_ip problem? I think it might be an iptables issue but I'm not sure. http://pastebin.com/Wyh16Pys | 14:55 |
halfss | i have upgrade kmv from 0.12 to 0.14,it looks libvirt could not mange kmv | 14:55 |
halfss | kvm | 14:55 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: it looks like SSHing to node2 and pinging node1 works on the *public IP*, not the *private IP* | 14:58 |
UICTamale | jaypipes: No, the 10.150.150.* network is my 'public ip' network | 14:59 |
UICTamale | the floating IPs are in that subnet | 14:59 |
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jaypipes | hmm... | 15:01 |
jaypipes | UICTamale: I'm wondering if this has to do with the promiscuous or hairpin mode settings that a number of folks have been talking about needing. | 15:01 |
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jaypipes | vishy: this ring a bell? See UICTamale's paste above. | 15:01 |
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UICTamale | jaypipes: Yes, it feels like that kind of a problem./ | 15:02 |
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UICTamale | jaypipes: At first I suspected dnsmasq was to blame - but then I checked the arp tables and noticed that the right mac addresses were being hit | 15:03 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: sorry, networking isn't my strongsuit :( If I had to guess, I'd say you need to set hairpin mode in order to have the VM to VM on public IP routed back from the network controller right back to the same compute node iface | 15:03 |
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UICTamale | never even heard of hairpin mode | 15:04 |
UICTamale | any suggestions for further reading? | 15:04 |
jaypipes | one sec... | 15:04 |
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livemoon | halfss, try to upgrade libvirt | 15:05 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: what version of OpenStack are you running? | 15:06 |
UICTamale | Essex | 15:06 |
UICTamale | Ubuntu 12.04 hosts | 15:06 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036233 in horizon "Cannot choose users other than me when launching a VM from Admin panel" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036233 | 15:06 |
UICTamale | Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04 guests | 15:06 |
jaypipes | k | 15:06 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: some background: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/933640 | 15:08 |
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UICTamale | Thanks, reading | 15:08 |
jaypipes | UICTamale: but looks like that fix was included in Essex :( so really not sure now! | 15:08 |
UICTamale | He has the opposite problem | 15:08 |
UICTamale | he CAN'T reach his VMs via public IP on the same host | 15:08 |
UICTamale | I CAN reach them from the same host | 15:09 |
UICTamale | but CANNOT reach them from other computers on the network | 15:09 |
UICTamale | but perhaps it's the same problem, manifesting differently | 15:09 |
UICTamale | Since ACCEPT is a terminating target, and after our DNAT the source and dest will match this rule, the floating SNAT rule is never matched and when the instance receives the traffic, it doesn't match what the instance originally sent, and is seen as new external traffic, except the source is the same as the instance, ultimately resulting in a TCP RST | 15:09 |
UICTamale | That sounds highly suspect | 15:09 |
halfss | it's there anyone use centos6.2+essex+kvm+virtio to run win2003 guest os,and the guest os(win 2003) always blue screen? | 15:10 |
UICTamale | I turned on iptables logging to doublecheck, but didn't see any messages of dropped messages | 15:10 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036237 in openstack-manuals "API site only builds on clouddocs maven plugin version 1.2.0" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036237 | 15:11 |
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swinchen | UGH! help! When I try to start nova-compute, I get an error in the log... 2012-08-13 11:17:31 TRACE nova InstanceNotFound: Instance instance-00000001 could not be found. | 15:18 |
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UICTamale | swinchen: I had that problem for a while | 15:18 |
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UICTamale | Just ensure all your /var/lib/nova/instances folders are empty and your mysql tables are clean | 15:19 |
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UICTamale | restart all components and it'll go away | 15:19 |
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swinchen | Oh my god... my instances directories are gone. I think euca2ools removed my instances. | 15:20 |
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UICTamale | jaypipes: Any other ideas?? I feel so close! | 15:20 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: :( sorry man, I'm really not sure | 15:22 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: a colleague of mine (kbringard) might have some ideas but I don't see him around yet | 15:22 |
UICTamale | jaypipes: I even tried asking in the #netfilter chat room but that place is deader than a doornail lol | 15:22 |
jaypipes | UICTamale: because most of them are west coast US ;) | 15:23 |
jaypipes | oh wait, no, I meant #netstack | 15:23 |
UICTamale | I can try that | 15:23 |
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UICTamale | uh.. empty | 15:23 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: hmm, I thought the quantum folks had their own channel... guess I am mistaken. sorry about that. | 15:25 |
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UICTamale | np, I just appreciate someone at least taking the time to lok | 15:26 |
UICTamale | I've been stuck like this for a week now | 15:26 |
UICTamale | So close to using openstack - but without being able to reach my VMs it's useless | 15:27 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: have you posted to the mailing list? sometimes you can get a fast answer there, too. | 15:28 |
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UICTamale | I will do that, thank you | 15:29 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036247 in openstack-manuals "New flag: defer_iptables_apply" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036247 | 15:31 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036249 in glance "Error building docs." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036249 | 15:31 |
grilled-cheese | Greetings, I've been looking at openstack for my enterprise environment, but I havn't seen a response to one requirement I have | 15:32 |
grilled-cheese | I need employees to be able to checkout a VM image and work offline when performing training at remote sites without internet | 15:33 |
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grilled-cheese | VMWare has their answer to this with VMWare View, but I can't find any documents indicating how VMWare View and OpenStack might interact | 15:33 |
swinchen | Interesting... one of the images in _base says 500GB, but it doesn't seem to be using any disk space | 15:34 |
grilled-cheese | Is there a way without turning each machine into a VMWare Host to accomplish this? | 15:35 |
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jaypipes | grilled-cheese: I don't really understand the use case, but it sounds like you just want the ability to snapshot a VM, put it on a thumb drive or something, and then use the image in a training class? Not sure that's really a cloud use case... | 15:47 |
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grilled-cheese | jaypipes: That would work, however I was hoping there was something I could do to let employees perform that work without having to come find an IT staff member to do it for them | 15:55 |
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jaypipes | grilled-cheese: you can snapshot an image with a single button click in Horizon... | 15:55 |
grilled-cheese | I've liked that VMWare View, just lets folks request a machine for a period of time to their local laptops | 15:56 |
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jaypipes | grilled-cheese: yeah, I'm not totally sure OpenStack is what you're looking for... | 15:56 |
jaypipes | may be wrong though | 15:56 |
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grilled-cheese | I'd be ok with hybridizing VMWare View & Openstack if they played nice together | 15:57 |
grilled-cheese | I really like openstack for the ability to let users create/destroy the platform they need for the time they need it in | 15:58 |
swinchen | ok, so euca-stop-instances should _not_ be used. It deletes your instances! | 15:58 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: I just don't see that OpenStack was designed to be the kind of thing you're loking for... | 15:58 |
grilled-cheese | it's very possible jaypipes, I'm new to this and am trying to learn as much as I can | 15:58 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: above, what do you mean by "create/destroy the platform they need for the time they need it in"? | 15:58 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: I think the fundamental issue is that OpenStack really isn't designed to have any "offline" mode :) | 15:59 |
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swinchen | I really wish it had an offline mode. We are relying on suspend right now :) | 16:01 |
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jaypipes | swinchen: I don't think you're referring to the same thing. | 16:02 |
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grilled-cheese | jaypipes: If a developer needs a system to test new code in, they just login and deploy a prebuilt template environment (1-8 physical/virtual machines) then use it for a few hours and delete the instance | 16:04 |
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jaypipes | grilled-cheese: ok. and really the only thing that you don't have with openstack is the ability to do that without network connection? is that correct? | 16:05 |
grilled-cheese | from what I've been reading (could be mistaken), that is correct | 16:06 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: yeah, so OpenStack doesn't have any tool that can do that right now... everything depends on being able to hit the APi endpoints on the network... | 16:08 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: VMWare View is really just Virtualbox for VMWare VMs, right? | 16:08 |
jaypipes | in other words, a GUI for starting already-snapshotted images. | 16:08 |
fitzdsl | is that me or the default m1.small is described as 10GB disk but create a 20GB disk ? | 16:10 |
grilled-cheese | as I understand it, it's just an extra integration between ESX Enterprise & a special verison of VMWare Player | 16:10 |
grilled-cheese | with a management console | 16:10 |
jaypipes | fitzdsl: yup, I've seen that happen... not sure why it does that frankly. | 16:10 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: yeah, basically just a GUI for launching VMs. | 16:11 |
fitzdsl | the bug as already been reported ? | 16:11 |
jaypipes | fitzdsl: I believe so. | 16:11 |
swinchen | Is the safest way to reboot a compute node to suspend all the instances before rebooting? | 16:11 |
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grilled-cheese | it is really nice with View, if one of those machines gets checked out and goes offline it is encrypted and has a built in self destruct should the laptop get lost | 16:11 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: not sure that openstack community is going to be working on that kind of tooling to be honest | 16:12 |
jaypipes | grilled-cheese: I'm sure it's very nice, really :) It's just not a use-case that OpenStack is really priortizing to be honest | 16:12 |
grilled-cheese | jaypipes: not asking for it, just inquiring if it already existed somehow | 16:12 |
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grilled-cheese | like I said, just trying to wrap my brain around options | 16:12 |
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grilled-cheese | or do they continue to work like normal in tandem | 16:15 |
jaypipes | swinchen: safest way to reboot a compute node is to stop the VMs on the compute node and do a soft reboot of the host. If you have resume_guests_state_on_host_boot=true, the VMs should start on reboot of the node | 16:15 |
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fitzdsl | I'm trying to understand the cloud way to manage vm persistence compared to traditional virtualisation with persistent disk. do you guys have any documentations / slides to present the difference and how system administrator should change their habbits ? | 16:17 |
jaypipes | swinchen: sorry, that should be start_guests_on_host_boot=true | 16:17 |
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UICTamale | jaypipes: Did you happen to see my post to the mailing list? | 16:18 |
jaypipes | UICTamale: Joshua Buss? | 16:19 |
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jaypipes | fitzdsl: that's a good question to post to the mailing lists. way to long for IRC ;) | 16:20 |
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fitzdsl | it was just in case you had some relevent doc to point me | 16:20 |
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fitzdsl | but I'll try to shoot a mail to user list, thanks for advice | 16:20 |
jaypipes | fitzdsl: :) | 16:21 |
UICTamale | jaypipes: Ha, yup | 16:21 |
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jaypipes | UICTamale: just saw it, yep | 16:21 |
UICTamale | w00t, great | 16:23 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036287 in nova "failure to create instance type extra specs when using Postgres" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036287 | 16:56 |
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Jules81 | Hi there | 17:21 |
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Jules81 | can anybody help me with Essex Dashboard. Seems like these Popdown Tabs for Instance Suspend the VM's, Volume Snapshot etc... all doesn't show up. Do i have to active anything like a plugin or something in the config? | 17:23 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036297 in python-glanceclient "v1 ImageManager returns size, min_ram, min_disk as strings, should be ints" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036297 | 17:26 |
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noob | hi everyone. i seem to be very close to having a working openstack. i have 4 nodes, 1 controller and 3 compute. i can boot up instances on all the nodes. problem is i can't ssh or ping any of them. i did the nova sec commands to allow ssh but it's no good | 17:29 |
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noob | i think it's an iptables issue but i'm not sure. i'm running fedora 17 | 17:29 |
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noob | if i post my config's would anyone like to take a look? | 17:30 |
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noob | here's my controller's setup: http://paste.openstack.org/show/20295/ | 17:33 |
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Diopter | noob: If you want to pastebin "ip a; ip r; brctl show; iptables-save" it'd be a great place to start | 17:39 |
noob | ok lemme do that | 17:40 |
noob | http://paste.openstack.org/show/20296/ | 17:40 |
noob | it's a lot of stuff | 17:41 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036299 in python-glanceclient "v1 ImageManager reports is_public and protected as strings" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036299 | 17:41 |
noob | i have multiple interfaces but i wanted to keep it simple with one for now until i understand what i'm doing | 17:41 |
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noob | i'm also not sure where the virbr0 with the 192.168.200.0/24 space came from | 17:42 |
noob | i mean 122.0/24 | 17:42 |
Diopter | noob: It's the default libvirt network | 17:42 |
noob | oh... | 17:42 |
Diopter | virsh net-destroy default; virsh net-autostart default --disable | 17:42 |
noob | could it be that my vm's are connecting to that bridge instead of the bridge i made for them? | 17:43 |
noob | Diopter: do i need to do that on all the nodes? | 17:43 |
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noob | ok it's destroyed | 17:45 |
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noob_ | sorry i disconnected | 17:47 |
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noob_ | do i need to destroy and recreate the instances after remove the virsh default network bridge? | 17:48 |
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Diopter | No | 17:48 |
noob_ | i'm guessing that is like pulling the plug on them | 17:48 |
noob_ | ok | 17:48 |
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noob_ | vnet[0,1,2] seems to all be connected to my bridge successfully | 17:48 |
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Diopter | noob_: Also, your eth1 has the same IP your demonetbr0 has. | 17:49 |
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noob | yeah should i drop the ip off em1? | 17:50 |
Diopter | noob: Also, you're specifying 165.160.208.200/32 somewhere as your network, which is not quite what's on the adapter... but probably not an issue here yet | 17:51 |
noob | yeah i wanted to go with flat manager instead of dhcp | 17:52 |
noob | i thought it was confusing the situation for me | 17:52 |
Diopter | Oh. I see. | 17:52 |
noob | most of that subnet is taken up with other machines | 17:52 |
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noob | is it correct that hte bridge should own the ip ? | 17:53 |
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Diopter | noob: Depends. You have a multi-nic setup. | 17:54 |
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noob | Diopter: yeah maybe i should make use of it | 17:54 |
Diopter | noob: I can't really help much more right this second. Busy at work | 17:55 |
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Diopter | You've got a couple things wonky though. | 17:55 |
noob | ok whenever you get some time. i'll keep hacking on it | 17:55 |
noob | yeah i know :( | 17:55 |
Diopter | I'm sure others can assist | 17:56 |
noob | yeah | 17:57 |
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magg | hello | 17:59 |
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magg | is it okay to insert rows directly into the nova.floating_ips table? after doing the command: nova-manage floating create | 18:00 |
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UICTamale | magg: in my experience, yes | 18:01 |
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magg | UICTamale: kk, thanks. i | 18:02 |
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UICTamale | same for removing | 18:03 |
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UICTamale | just be sure to remove associations applicably | 18:03 |
magg | where are the associations? on another table? | 18:04 |
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magg | i just deleted two rows from nova.floating_ips | 18:04 |
magg | and added 3 more | 18:04 |
UICTamale | yeah other tables if you associate them with instances | 18:05 |
UICTamale | not sure which one(s) | 18:05 |
magg | ooh ok | 18:06 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036315 in python-glanceclient "v1 ImageManager rejects update with 'deleted' attribute" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036315 | 18:06 |
magg | nah those rows weren't associated with any instance | 18:06 |
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magg | thx | 18:07 |
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noob | on my compute nodes should they also be running nova-network? | 18:16 |
noob | if i want to have a single controller i'm thinking no | 18:16 |
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Jay | anybody know how i can activate the power off and suspend buttons in nova horizon (Essex) ? | 18:19 |
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Guest78655 | anybody know how i can activate the power off and suspend buttons in nova horizon (Essex) ? | 18:20 |
UICTamale | noob: You can do either | 18:21 |
UICTamale | noob: You can have one controller with compute and network, and then multiple computes with or without network each | 18:21 |
noob | i think to keep it simple i'll shut the network off on the compute nodes then | 18:21 |
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UICTamale | just be aware that that can bottleneck your networking requests | 18:22 |
noob | oh ok | 18:22 |
noob | maybe that's a bad idea then | 18:22 |
noob | UICTamale: with the FlatManager do i need to provide a dhcp server/dns server for the instances? | 18:23 |
UICTamale | yes, that's how I understand it | 18:23 |
noob | the reason i ask is because everything is static at my business | 18:23 |
UICTamale | I need the DHCP manage mode, so I haven't tried flatmanager myself | 18:23 |
noob | ok | 18:23 |
UICTamale | everything is static at mine as well | 18:23 |
noob | so how did you setup things? | 18:23 |
noob | could i see your nova.conf? | 18:24 |
noob | i think if i saw one that worked i could figure out what i messed up | 18:24 |
UICTamale | I followed http://unchainyourbrain.com/openstack/13-networking-in-nova | 18:24 |
UICTamale | with the 1st highly available model | 18:24 |
UICTamale | be warned - I'm not 100% working yet myself | 18:24 |
noob | yeah that diagram is kinda confusing for me | 18:24 |
UICTamale | I have a problem routing to my floating IPs | 18:24 |
UICTamale | do your hosts have two physical interfaces? | 18:25 |
UICTamale | it's a doozy of a diagram, but it's good | 18:25 |
UICTamale | http://www.mirantis.com/blog/openstack-networking-flatmanager-and-flatdhcpmanager/ | 18:25 |
UICTamale | http://www.mirantis.com/blog/openstack-networking-single-host-flatdhcpmanager/ | 18:25 |
UICTamale | those go along with it nicely | 18:25 |
noob | yeah i have 4 interfaces if i really needed it | 18:25 |
UICTamale | nice, you'll be in good shape then | 18:25 |
noob | yeah once i get the hosts to ssh i think i'm good | 18:25 |
UICTamale | the kicker for me was defining an eth1 interface in /etc/network/interfaces, but leaving its configuration set to 'manual' | 18:26 |
noob | oh ok | 18:26 |
noob | all my networking is manual | 18:26 |
UICTamale | that was diopter's suggestion and it worked great | 18:26 |
noob | and nova took care of it? | 18:26 |
UICTamale | e.g.: auto eth1\n iface eth1 inet manual\n up ip link set dev eth1 promisc on up\n down ip link set dev eth1 down | 18:26 |
UICTamale | Yup! | 18:26 |
UICTamale | creates all the bridges and virtual stuff automatically | 18:26 |
UICTamale | it's pretty impressive. | 18:27 |
UICTamale | http://pastebin.com/Wyh16Pys | 18:27 |
UICTamale | that's my last remaining problem | 18:27 |
noob | oh i know. i can fire up vm's in seconds | 18:27 |
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UICTamale | just remember to set multi_host=true on all your nova.confs | 18:28 |
UICTamale | if you go the HA route | 18:28 |
UICTamale | and when you use nova-manage network create, add the --multi_host=true flag | 18:28 |
UICTamale | or whatever it is | 18:28 |
noob | the diagrams on this mirantis look good. maybe i can figure one of these out | 18:28 |
noob | yeah i think it's in a funky state | 18:28 |
noob | networking is running on all the nodes but i don't have multinode set | 18:29 |
UICTamale | good luck, let me know if you get stuck. I've done it from scratch four times in the past two weeks now :) | 18:29 |
noob | or multi_host | 18:29 |
noob | lol | 18:29 |
noob | so you're the expert now | 18:29 |
UICTamale | yup, that'll lead to weirdness | 18:29 |
UICTamale | sometimes I had to reboot too | 18:29 |
UICTamale | ha! I wish. | 18:29 |
UICTamale | bbl | 18:29 |
noob | alright lemme add multi_host=true and see where that gets me | 18:29 |
noob | ok | 18:29 |
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noob | what do you guys do if nova delete fails? | 18:56 |
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UICTamale | what's the error? | 18:57 |
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UICTamale | first I curse | 18:57 |
UICTamale | then I read the error | 18:57 |
noob | haha | 18:57 |
UICTamale | then I muck up my mysql tables | 18:57 |
UICTamale | then I reinstall everything | 18:57 |
UICTamale | :) | 18:57 |
noob | timeout waiting for RPC response | 18:57 |
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noob | i used virsh destroy | 18:57 |
trygvis | sounds much like me UICTamale | 18:57 |
noob | but it still thinks they're running | 18:57 |
UICTamale | I think in that case I restart all nova services | 18:58 |
UICTamale | and delete relevant entries in the tables | 18:58 |
noob | ok | 18:58 |
noob | what would i do if this was production and i couldn't restart? | 18:58 |
noob | just out of curiousity | 18:58 |
UICTamale | good question | 18:59 |
UICTamale | I have no clue | 18:59 |
noob | haha nice, now they're deleting | 18:59 |
UICTamale | what'd you do | 18:59 |
noob | the restart of the services fixed it | 18:59 |
noob | i guess it got itself into a bad state | 19:00 |
trygvis | I think nova-compute will detect that the image is gone after a while | 19:00 |
noob | ok | 19:00 |
trygvis | same happens if you just poweroff from inside the VM | 19:00 |
noob | i see | 19:01 |
UICTamale | trygvis: Good to know | 19:01 |
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noob | UICTamale: do i need to recreate my network private space if i change to dhcp manager? | 19:02 |
UICTamale | I would, but that's just me. I don't know if you need to. | 19:03 |
UICTamale | I would guess you don't actually, since the private network should be the same | 19:03 |
noob | ok | 19:03 |
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noob | UICTamale: looks like --multi_host=true isn't in the nova-manage command anymore in essex? | 19:07 |
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UICTamale | it's something like that | 19:07 |
UICTamale | let me get the real syntax | 19:07 |
noob | oh ok | 19:07 |
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noob | haha | 19:07 |
UICTamale | $ nova-manage network create --fixed_range_v4=192.168.0.0/24 --num_networks=1 --network_size=256 --multi_host=T --label=test | 19:07 |
noob | ok | 19:08 |
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noob | can i modify a network to add multi_host ? | 19:09 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036342 in python-keystoneclient "EndpointNotFound error" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036342 | 19:11 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036343 in nova "Validation of Timestamp/Expires for ec2 query parameters is not correct" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036343 | 19:11 |
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noob | when i try to delete it says network still in use and won't let me remove it | 19:12 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036347 in nova "HTML escape xml tags in EC2 responses." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036347 | 19:25 |
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noob | UICTamale: switching to DHCP manager helped. i can ping/ssh into my hosts now | 19:32 |
noob | the new ones that is | 19:32 |
noob | it looks like the instances dns info is a little funky. they think the controller node is their dns server | 19:33 |
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UICTamale | that's probably one of your nova.conf settings | 19:35 |
UICTamale | Not sure which one though | 19:35 |
noob | yeah i think if i set dns_server it should fix that | 19:36 |
noob | is it normal for the ssh to be really slow connecting to instances? | 19:36 |
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noob | it takes about a minute but it eventually goes through | 19:38 |
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UICTamale | I haven't seen that/ | 19:39 |
UICTamale | What I had early-on was exceptionally slow VM create times | 19:40 |
UICTamale | like, 30 minutes | 19:40 |
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noob | oww | 19:40 |
noob | what was the cause of that? | 19:40 |
noob | kvm turned off? | 19:40 |
UICTamale | kvm without the bios extension enabled | 19:40 |
noob | ah | 19:41 |
noob | i'm pretty sure i set that when i first setup the servers | 19:41 |
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UICTamale | i was surprised it was disabled | 19:42 |
noob | yeah servers usually have it disabled out of the box i think | 19:43 |
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noob | is it just me or is the qpidd service flaky? | 19:58 |
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crohling88 | Hey, I'm trying to install devstack from the openstack-dev repo, and keep running into this issue "error: Installed distribution python-keystoneclient 2012.1 conflicts with requirement python-keystoneclient>=0.1.2,<0.2" Anyone have any idea what could cause that? I feel relatively certain that I have removed previous versions of that client | 20:09 |
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noob | i think i just want to bang my head against a wall with this openstack | 20:13 |
noob | it just fights me | 20:13 |
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MarkAtwood | so, rackspace openstack, where is the ssh key handling? | 20:14 |
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noob | it happens at build time | 20:15 |
noob | you specify a key | 20:15 |
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noob | UICTamale: have you run into this yet: CRITICAL nova [-] list index out of range | 20:21 |
noob | when starting compute | 20:21 |
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noob | are there any openstack iso's out there that work out of the box? | 20:26 |
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UICTamale | noob: Afraid I haven't seen that one | 20:58 |
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binyamin | Does anyone know if a decent debian 6.x repo for Essex packages? | 21:07 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036407 in nova "nova.conf option bandwith_poll_interval is misspelled." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036407 | 21:46 |
uvirtbot | New bug: #1036408 in nova "No registry calls in glance api log" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036408 | 21:46 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036409 in glance "No logging of glance registry req id in glance api log" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036409 | 21:51 |
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ericcc | hey guys, any idea why open stack isn't defining a domain in my libvirt.xml files: <domain type=""> | 21:59 |
ericcc | ? | 21:59 |
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ericcc | *domain type | 22:00 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036416 in devstack "horizon requires python-netaddr" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036416 | 22:21 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036419 in nova "missing _cache_image() in libvirt driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036419 | 22:25 |
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uvirtbot | New bug: #1036425 in quantum "failed to list subnets with id only" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1036425 | 22:50 |
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